What Makes Autumn Leaves the BEST Mod For New Vegas? (Analysis and Review)

[@ramblelime]

Hey! Doing the video stuff while completing a degree where the majority of what I did was write has been tough and has resulted in a lot of delays and deadline pushes, but I'm happy to say I'm finally done! I don't get my piece of paper till November but I'm done all my classes. What this means for the channel is basically (hopefully) I will not have any other writing projects to interfere with what I do for the channel. More of my writing energy towards videos as opposed to term papers= more and better videos. Yay! The other thing I wanted to cover in this comment is the Fallout 4/Autumn Leaves situation. I anticipate it being a super common comment, but yes, Fallout 4 ripped the concept of this mod for a quest in Far Harbor. And yes, I didn't talk about it. Why? I did write about it. I wrote about it for days. The conclusion I reached in every draft I could come up with ended up basically saying nothing. The situation has by all means been finished. Bethesda took the dev's quest idea, put it in their DLC, the dev found out and responded basically with 'oh! well, anyway', and now the dev is doing his own thing in the industry. He won. If you want a comparison between the two, you can google "Autumn Leaves" and it seems to be the only thing people consistently talk about the mod for. I didn't want to follow that trend so it's not in my video. I think it was the right choice for the type of video this is. That's all from me for now. More streams and videos on the way. Hope you enjoyed this one :D

[@fnmmod]

Modding is tough and time-consuming. so I understand the feeling of when you can't do what you want to do, I can only imagine trying do long Analysis content for KZbin while working on a degree. Glad to hear you will have more free time to do more videos Ram! Looking forward to them as always!

[@ZekeFreek]

It would be a shame to reduce the mod down to just "that thing a Bethesda quest designer ripped off" so I think it was the right move to just focus on the mod itself.

[@meppledude6874]

Congratulations on finishing university!

[@danielsurvivor1372]

I heard apparently there's tons more DLC sized mods coming out for FNV, like the New Reno one or the one trying to bring back Fallout 3(the one developed in isometric view) into FNV. I really hope you'll review them when they come out 🙏

[@SunsetRadi0]

Quick question, will you talk about Fallout London at some point? I'm super interested in what you have to say about that mod specifically

[@DungeonGobbo]

"falling, like autumn leaves..." Hard to recommend due to its slow nature, but easily one of the best and most natural add-ons to Fallout. Felt like I bought it as a mini-dungeon for $3.50 on the 360 marketplace, in the best way possible.

[@PassosVEVO]

its*

[@DungeonGobbo]

@@PassosVEVO It's fixed

[@MartinPurvis]

This was a great video! I played the Narrator, Maintenance Robot and Professor Cartright (via holotapes). This mod eventually got me a minor voice acting role in a game Edge of Eternity for a game studio that Baron (the dev) went to work for as narrative design 🙌

[@kiwi3085]

Thank you

[@milotheoperator]

Omg the guy who did the good songs from the Frontier hiiii

[@Joe-lr9ou]

I played this mod after finishing the someguy series with my stereotypical jaded bounty hunter character. The therapy scene made me cry and I was shocked at how well it worked for my character. This mod was really the finishing touch my playthrough needed.

[@zanethezaniest274]

“Once you create something, it isn’t yours anymore.” Hit me a lot harder than it had any right to but it’s a beautiful statement about art (or to me at least ) and games and their relationship with mods. Once u put out a game, it’s the community’s game and their love and passion for it will inevitably spawn mods like this. No matter what mod you put out good, bad or underdeveloped, it will never be yours afterwards, what happens after u put it out may make it better or worse. But it’ll never be yours again. And I think that’s beautiful.

[@mattthedoormat]

I think as an artist myself I somewhat struggle with that mindset. I agree with what you said, but I think for me there'll always be that feeling, or desire as an artist to have control over what you create. Something that you believe to be uniquely yours. When you want to show if off to the world, you also want the world to know that this is yours, and this is how you see things. So then when someone else says something different about, there's a hint of annoyance about it. Of course I understand this is not a great mindset to have (it's something I'm trying to move away from) and of course my art isn't as nuanced or meant to inspire deep thought or interpretation as other works of art - this mod included - so maybe that's part of my issue. But you're right. In a way that's a necessary trade off when wanting to show off art you're proud of. It may not be truly yours after it's out there, but it's better to have other people see than to leave it hidden away for your eyes only.

[@fearjunkie]

Commenting before I watch the video but AL has my favorite bit of science fiction writing ever: during a dialogue with one of the robots, they ask you what scratching an itch felt like, and I genuinely had to think about that for awhile. It's such a minor thing but it really makes the gears in your head turn and consider things from another angle.

[@cheekibreeki904]

Now that this mod had been mentioned, I believe "Tales from the Burning Sands" is in order. Puce Moose had established himself as a strong storyteller as far back as his first mod for Fallout 3, "A Note Easily Missed", and his mods not being ported to TTW is the only thing that prevents me from switching to it completely and leaving the original Fallout 3 behind for good. "Tales..." is his magnum opus, and is definitely worth a video.

[@1997gwen48]

Absolutely, these mods take a very interesting look at quest design and if you like the low combat, minimal quest markers and focus on enviormental storytelling of Autumn Leaves, burning sands is probably the closest equivalent

[@95wave]

make sure you also install the Quality of Life patch made by another fan or you are in for five hours of misery trying to find THE FUCKING MOLERATS WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY GOD DAMN IT TO HELL.

[@user-ow1bc4sx2r]

Thanks for the info

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Is it Fallout New Vegas good or "New Vegas Bounties" good because that bounties mod was a huge letdown since it doesn't have nearly as many choices and is very "just shoot things" focused

[@dogelero6324]

If you only played bounties 1 You should play the rest because that is where the good plot is. Still the mods mention above are very different from the Bounties ​series@@danielsurvivor1372

[@johnjuiceshipper4963]

James’ undefinable accent sounds like an attempt at a transatlantic accent, which is fitting for the retrofuturistic setting tbh.

[@JackSpackProductions]

I really gotta play NV again. I really haven't tried many overhauls, but after FOLON, I'm really seeing how incredible these more overhaul mod projects can be.

[@MistermistTheOne]

A library that has all the written works of humanity, and one of the keepers is named Roland. Deja vu. I know Autumn Leaves has a good five years before Library of Ruina’s release, but it would be really funny if someone at Project Moon was inspired by this mod. Great video as always Lime. Can’t wait for the big project.

[@jackdeadman7129]

@Ramblelime , I CANNOT PRAISE YOUR WORK ENOUGH. I myself as a NV fanatic have sunk over 20 hours into my own retrospective of this game and Bethesda. Yet I keep re-writing and re-thinking my work. Your work and a few other keep me sane enough to keep going and wanting to finish my work. Your work will always be better than mine and I love you Video design..... Much love

[@Vee_9001]

This mod really hits you if you let it. I got so immersed into it, at times feeling trapped by the gray corridors and the red eyes always watching me, at other times never wanting to leave. It really made me examine my character and brought out some of the most emotional and most jaded responses, all for an ending that was so bittersweet I couldn't play the game for two days after. Idek if I ever want to play through this mod again just because I want that one experience crystallized in my mind.

[@godfreemorals]

It did feel like an old 'point and click' adventure/mystery. It's been a while but I'll give this one another go. Great review, thanks.

[@brijones7827]

roland is genuinely my favorite character from any mod ever

[@harrier-dubois-king-of-disco]

New joeseph Anderson and new rambline is crazy

[@mehmetyavuzkurban88]

excuse me, i watch both of the creators but couldnt get the reference what changed about them?

[@harrier-dubois-king-of-disco]

@@mehmetyavuzkurban88 both uploaded new videos on the same day

[@TooDarnEasy]

@@mehmetyavuzkurban88 nothing they both just dropped a video around the same time

[@mehmetemrebirinci6536]

@@mehmetyavuzkurban88 ne işin var lan senin burda

[@mehmetyavuzkurban88]

@@mehmetemrebirinci6536 müptelasıyım bu işlerin

[@jaffakeks4403]

This feels like a tribute to old point and click flash games where everything is put out for you to see but use when the time comes.

[@Jensegaense]

1:15 This man has not played Sirenroot for Skyrim yet (Srsly though highly recommended checking it out because it perfectly fits the description you give here and is absolutely fantastic!)

[@bapabs]

Always a delight to see your videos pop up in my feed, looking forward to that next project

[@R33fth3b33f]

This mod is a mainstay in my playthrough. It completely halts everything im doing and i just chillax and take it easy and 100% this mod and pretend im a nerd in a library

[@KyleKringle]

When looking for "worthwhile" DLCs sized mods for New Vegas, I came across this but skipped it because it was "just a library." I'll give this a shot now

[@jdkessey]

Wait, this mod reminds me of that one vault in Fallout 4: Far Harbor.

[@antipsychotic451]

Reminds me of that horrible tragedy.

[@SlickJim2]

Weren't even accusations of plagiarism due to this back then?

[@bluemooninthedaylight8073]

@@SlickJim2 Oh, yes. It was clearly plagiarized. I recall around that time Bethesda claimed they can use anything from mods, since its technically theirs [Made through their creation kit]. Something like that. Bethesda sucks.

[@jdkessey]

I waded through the dead bodies* I visited Necropolis ​@@antipsychotic451

[@morgalorga1987]

Yeah its cause Bethesda took "heavy inspiration" for Far Harbor

[@mahzi_productions]

I miss your videos, hope to see a new one soon, but above all else I hope you're doing well. The quality is great with these, love your work

[@8-bitrick133]

I actually played this before playing any other DLC for new Vegas, I could just tell from the mod page when it was trending that it was special.

[@AehabCries]

this mod really reminds me of how good Mad Max: Fury Road is.

[@TooDarnEasy]

I'd attribute the large amount of New Vegas DLC sized mods to Alton, IL for Fallout 3 more than New California. That was really the first "dlc-sized" mod. Or if we're talking NV mods specifically, Beyond Boulder Dome was one of the first and still is pretty alright

[@pootispencer9765]

Man, I really love RPG settings that build up instead of out, if you get what I mean. Autumn leaves feels great because it delineates a set of characters and an area and then only ever works to flesh these things out. I do wish we had more bite-size mods like it, mods focused more on the execution than the ambition.

[@hexazalea]

I love this mod but there’s a problem with the Helena quest. The note you get about the Mojave express job( the chip). Notably it mentions there’s a penalty for not delivering. My couriers may be rather intelligent, but they can also be lawful stupid and still fully in charge of their mental faculties.

[@sa_exploder]

That comment about Autumn Leaves being nearly a decade old hurt me. It feels like I played this mod yesterday, but now I realize it was 2017. The experiences of playing it for the first time and watching MATN’s playthrough are seared into my memory. Easily my favorite story mod ever.

[@xXEdgarAllanPoeXx]

I was waiting so much for a video from ramblelime that i rewatched all of his videos.. 😭😭

[@africa_by_toto2606]

I was just rewatching the old trailer like 5 min ago, the soundtrack really speaks to the soul especially "Les Feuilles Mortes"

[@R33fth3b33f]

You gotta review TSC lol. Its an insane fallout 3 mod. Its huge too like 10hrs long.

[@Face-Pawlm]

Haven’t even watched this video yet because I’m at work but by golly when I get into my computer chair itll be the first thing I put on god bless mr lime for another video

[@Face-Pawlm]

I'm back and after watching I can confirm I was not disappointed

[@Black_Metal_Creator]

This mod is beatiful it makes remember the person i was , and also Boost My hope in people's Hidden talents

[@zackbard9420]

I still think about each of the characters in this mod, it's peak

[@AceHawthorne]

Amazing video, as always. I played this mod myself about 2 years ago and it was a much different and well-needed break from other story mods I had played at the time (mainly the Someguy Series). I do have one question and I don't know if anyone else has asked you this but have you thought about covering the Skyrim mods made by Vicn? (Vigilant, Glenmoril, and Unslaad)

[@JackieTrippsTheMemeLord]

Omg, someone FINALLY covered my favourite fallout mod!!

[@richardface4504]

I always thought this looked like a cool mod but never went out of my way to download it, looks like I missed out. Thanks for the vid

[@larrystevensons9672]

I love it when the rambling lime uploads

[@nagger8216]

18:31 Absolutely. I always figured that, despite the fact our character is a post-apocalyptic courier travelling the known world, the main reason we start out as a wimp is precisely because of the brain damage.

[@ChadVulpes]

I subscribed to your channel way back when you made a video about how Fallout 1 is so consistent thematically, and ever since then I've been aching about how most games, movies, and media in general lack care in this regard even though it's the best aspect of them. Sharing abstract ideas that are digestible when shown so that you can empathize with them in a way that talking about isn't enough. It's why your videos need to be at least 30 minutes long, while many other essayists focus on tangents or tangentially throwing big words(your aforementioned ludonarrative dissonance but your usage of it is good). You are aware that themes are important for a piece of media that wishes to propagate worthwhile memes(I'm also committing a faux pax here by using a big word, please forgive me). I don't watch your channel often because I don't have as much time, but every time I stumble upon one of your videos, it's a treat. It warms my heart knowing someone line you exists and that you make videos like this. I hope you you are in good health. Thank you for what you do 🙏

[@romulusnuma116]

I can't believe Bethesda ripped this mod off for that Far Harbor Quest like they didn't but it is strange how similar it is to this mod.

[@someone___1240]

its supposed to be an homage

[@TürkTeksaslı]

I played the Far harbour quest, its takes inspiration but it is not a rip-off

[@TürkTeksaslı]

Quest Designer or someone else was probs looking for inspiration and found the mod

[@johnnyyuma5747]

​@@someone___1240 homage implys they gave credit to the source material that "inspired them" aka the modder or at least mod name, where as Bethesda didnt credit anybody and just claimed it was their own concept. same as the whole "settlement building" was shown off in the E3 event for FO4 as thier own creation when its a blatant rip off of the FNV mod "RTS ( Real Time Settler) "

[@Pigness7]

@@johnnyyuma5747 Neither of these mods are like the eventual fallout 4 "versions" besides the surface level, overhyped drama.

[@Omi-han]

Buddy you're canadian that "library" didnt sound remotely southern or from texas, florida, anywhere where a "yeehaw" dialect would be from but the rest of that point is fine lol

[@awesomechainsaw]

Nah partner i reckon that liberry did sound quite like a southern accent. Ya hear me?

[@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k]

😮Just the first few word sold me on this mod. A cwnturies old murder mistery? Where I can retire some clankers? Sign me up.😮

[@m_crowley6674]

you should talk about a cgy95 mod some time! Race to the Bottom is pretty well written and on the level of something like this

[@MadMailManStudios]

Always heard about this mod [mainly because of the accusation that Bethesda stole the idea and made a worse quest in Far Harbor] Might give it a try when I have the free time.

[@Pigness7]

Oh you're doing Fallout 4 mods soon? I cant wait for you to find deeper meaning to my mods I never intended! pog!

[@BrandanLee]

That's awesome. I never actually got the time to play autumn leaves back in the day (9 years ago!?) So it's cool to get a recap! Amazing what can be done with the GECK. The GECK gets a lot of hate as an engine and toolkit, but what can be done with it is astonishing. Best RPG engine out there. Really with Bethesda went the way of Unity and Unreal and licensed it, but it's an entire book a reasons why they don't.

[@theveteransergeant]

I thought thr mod was great. Really just so well thought out and well executed. I unfortunately encountered a bug that broke ot when I was about 90% done (a clue triggered through a wall in a locked room somehow) which broke the game, and even then, the experience was so well crafted, so unique and so memorable, I'd still recommend it wholeheartedly. Really cool what the author believed was possible and how they brought that vision to life. Really showed what the game is capable of, and how much more there can be to mods for games. Autumn Leaves isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea, especially in a game designed around exploring and murder, but for those with the patience, it is more rewarding than 95% of mod content out there.

[@ihatebalrog]

Hey, great that there's a new video! Hopefully, you'll be covering Fallout: London too!

[@ITendToCough]

I’ve wondered for so long how a mod of this quality isn’t talked about more

[@AugmentedYoutube]

thank you for uploading, love your videos.

[@tylerprince1246]

ww3 on the horizon: i sleep new ramblelime video drops: REAL SHIT

[@Ziklawz]

My favorite NV mod, it's truly special.

[@Tiredofdawgz]

Ram line one of my favorite KZbinrs🎉

[@Tiredofdawgz]

You are really good at building a narrative structure in these videos. I’m always so engaged.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

I'm just sad that despite FNV legendary status as one of if not best RPG, it's mega mods aka DLC size mods are both rare AND with usually poor quality, Autumn leaves is super rare gem that survived this treatment even if it's not that big.

[@berserkmangareadingproject1386]

I love enderal and autumn leaves. Just started a skyrim w 4 dlc sized mods like bruma to try them out

[@meowingtonvonmeow8868]

You should checkout the Fallout overhaul mod for the game "Hearts of Iron 4"

[@T0RGU3]

Great video man!! Just wondering if you'll be reviewing the obscurum series by thumblesteen?

[@mahzi_productions]

Great videos! Bee binging them lately, and was curious if you'd be covering Fallout: London eventually?? I'd love your take on it

[@ramblelime]

next, as long as nothing changes

[@emalatorre7652]

babe wake up, new ramblelime video just dropped

[@muttipi]

another ramblelime banger, keep up the good work. 👍

[@futurewario9591]

Do a video on Skyrim Mod Moonpath To Elsweyr

[@TForgery]

YOOOO NEW RAMBLELIME NEW VEGAS MOD VIDEO LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@thousand1183]

I JUST PLAYED THIS YESTERDAY I really personally didnt enjoy this mod too much? But i think i just personally am not someone who is into a dialouge heavy experience. I felt myself skimming the dialouge towards the end. As someone else said, it feels like you paid a few bucks for a mini dungeon on the 360 marketplace. But you can still tell this is such a passion project.

[@cdpm1703]

FUCK YEAH NEW RAMBLELIME VIDEO!!!!

[@mytyavarivoda7710]

Hell yeah man, glad you reviewed this one, one of the best mods for sure Disco elysium review next?👀

[@Screwball-D2]

I love you Ramble Lime!

[@lincolngraham5158]

Great vid! Didn't watch it tho, I decided to play the mod instead. I'll come back after I'm done, I promise.

[@silverbullet11202]

Put nearly 350 hours into Tale of Two Wastelands and I'd planned on a whole list of mod expansions like the someguy series and Frontier and wound up dwindling that list down to just this one. Sadly, I never got around to playing it, but it's still there, waiting for me. 😅

[@johnnyyuma5747]

the Compleate timeline" of "The Player" is subjective depending which version you want to have as a character "backstory". if you use TTW then you are the Lone Wanderer and became The Courier if you use FNC (fallout new california) then you start as the vault 18 version of "the chosen one" and become The Courier because of linked events. if you play from TTW then you have to ignore the whole killing yourself is the "cannon ending" and include the retcon added by Broken Steel if you play from FNC it helps to ignore the super mutant sub plot about you being their version of the chosen one. regardless of which prequeal you use the better mods to use are everything by Th3Overseer, Puce Moose and mods like BBD (beyond boulder dome) and SLS (salt lake stories) finishing FNV with Lonesome road avoid SomeGuy2000's mods unless you like rip offs of the modders favourite movies

[@RyanBride641]

Wtf i never saw a notif and realized ramble lime dropped this. *screams at the sky about capitalism in ramblelimes honor*

[@bigrigjoe5130]

The "You're not trying to learn, you're trying to make yourself better" feels like an odd attack on someone in the context of a hostile post-nuclear wasteland >_>

[@czlifv8865]

24:41 Ain´t no way is that a DEAD MONEY REFERENCEE?

[@MrSpudlet]

On yes another long video on fallout

[@sinisterisrandom8537]

I you do end up working on a mod in some way or form, you certainly need to make a couple references, direct or indirect to Autumn's leaves.

[@whyareyoulookingatthis236]

Babe wake up, new Ramblime just dropped

[@slowsx5135]

loved this mod ❤

[@thedinkster7547]

Somebody ring the Dinkster?

[@Hangman1313]

Obligatory "babe wake up" comment. But seriously though, I always get a little extra excited when I see you drop a new video.

[@Rosa84479]

holy rambling lime

[@ArabCat.1]

Wake up babe ramblelime posted

[@falaflani4831]

i love your vids but u should try to tone down the spoilers as much as possible esp for a quality mod that u would recommend like this. or include a spoiler warning at ponts

[@nico1633]

You should review the vigilant quest mod for Skyrim

[@teddys4358]

11:41 is the spiel about having having no quest markers and actively exploring due to mechanical incentives meant to coincide with the 36 Lessons being shown, or am I reading too deeply into this

[@boldfacedbroom3374]

Ik you said the next “big video” won’t be for awhile but is a Fallout London video on the table for the future?

[@Daggerpathtattoo]

There should be a Dark City mod for fallout. Anyone remember that movie?

[@Jesion-kv9tu]

When are you going to review Sonora? It's playable in English now

[@TK-_-GZ]

Algorithmic Punch!

[@MayjurIN]

A rather basic question but what's the ambient track that plays at around 5:16?

[@Chuunilove827]

Fallout Sonora has an English patch for base game + dlc(it’s decent and has some issues but is still playable) do you plan on reviewing the mod?

[@ramblelime]

depending on the quality of the translation, yeah absolutely

[@Chuunilove827]

@@ramblelime it’s okay it’s not bad but it has a couple things but it’s fine overall(keep in mind I’m also a bit dyslexic so it could have more grammar issues I didn’t notice)

[@googeldotcom1675]

My favorite part of the whole mod was when you’re talking with James and ask him why Arthur acts so autistic

[@skylerwilson5378]

I hate it too… felt that

[@JohnDaubSuperfan369]

The reason why it works is that it was developed by *one person* Every time stuff is made by committee, especially by a bunch of amateurs, any hint of artistic merit is thrown out the window and the original idea gets molested so badly there is no original idea 5 minutes into development.

[@TheFancyCoffee]

This was my first quest mod in fnv and it easily ruined all following quest mods for me because I have yet to find another that feels so natural to the game with a similar enough style of writing and humor to vanilla. I don't think I have found another quest mod for any Bethesda game that made me feel as immersed as Autumn Leaves (although I wil gladly take recommendations!)

[@chrisbj5251]

Remember when Bethesda copy-paste this mod in Far Harbor? I 'member....

[@lorddervish212quinterosara6]

FALLOUT SONORA BABY

[@thinblood]

thank you for returning king

[@Hyperiumon]

I honestly think autumn leaves is a 7/10. Wonderful dialogue, but obtuse layout and unnecessary load screen kill it for me. I honestly would want it to have a more vanilla and immersive way to find or learn about its existence. That and some combat to mix it up. Say what you want, but owb knew that's it's a rpg game so it has mountains of good dialogue mixed in with some combat to make sure it's not just "listen to fallout fanfiction for hours.exe"

[@Hyperiumon]

Also the combat let's you have some downtime to really chew on the dialogue. Unlike owb, their isn't a mountain of exploration to help so you're forced to listen to blocks of texts and then before you can really process it, you get another block of text x10.

[@itsterres]

play tales of new reno u get shot in the head in it again

[@Sundance967]

I’m sorry but the combat gameplay is so distracting like 9mm should NOT give that much recoil, that’s more like if you fired a .44 magnum

[@johnjuiceshipper4963]

Isn’t this the mod that Bethesda straight up plagiarized for a quest in the Far Harbor DLC?