Rammstein - Mann Gegen Mann (React/Review)

[@educatedmarine]

Hey Mat and Chels. I've seen people debating my translation so I thought I'd come and defend it. The first thing I want to get across is that I'm a bisexual man. So I only used what I deemed appropriate and that's why I felt comfortable using the word and not censoring it. The word Till uses is actually "Schwulah" which is a slang term based on "Schwuler" which gives it a negative connotation. The section of the song which uses the term is echoing cruel words that are used against the homosexual man in the song. A homophobic word is being used in the song to show the gay man as a victim of an attack. The word that I translated Schwulah into was chosen because the English language doesn't have too much negative slang towards gay people that have any form of actual weight to them. Though I can absolutely understand any concerns as I spent a long time debating on what word to use myself.

[@StineFL]

I totally agree with that reading. If the word he screams *wasn't* offensive, the whole power and message of the song would be list, IMO.

[@fionadowdeswell-simmons4968]

that's always been my reading of it tbh. It makes sense after he says Ich bin der Alptraum aller Väter, not that I agree with the sentiment.

[@arc6017]

I think you nailed it man.

[@selbstverteidigungszucchini]

I mean, yeah your translation wasnt wrong, but I think a better word to translate schwuler to would be "queer" scince the word does have bad connotations ( it has been used as a slur for decades at least where I live) but isnt always necessarily bad and has been reclaimed by the queer community much like the word Schwuler in germany

[@educatedmarine]

@@selbstverteidigungszucchini that's a good alternative! I think I was going for a feeling more than accuracy and it didn't go as planned. But I stand by it. Thank you for your input

[@robertomendezflores83]

MANN GEGEN MANN is by far, the best gay metal song than any band can create. Only RAMMSTEIN can do that song really fucking rocks!!

[@McTabler]

Rammstein was accused to be homophob in the past by german medias, that his awnser :-)

[@tosa2522]

BILD?

[@8r07k4573n]

@@tosa2522 The Bild-readers and the right-wing medium Bild-newspaper are themselves homophobic.

[@MeWojak]

In welchen Medien denn du Hosenpinkler

[@kooroshrostami27]

Only by degenerate boulevard trash media. If you actually make the effort to understand their lyrics, you cannot seriously believe that.

[@jayarekay6632]

This song just shows how talented Ollie Riedel is . He is smashing it

[@subway5907]

U can tell he is massive when youre trying to play some of his basslines… His hands must be huge. My hands are too small to play Seemann on bass, even though im 6’1 and i have «big» hands

[@SirFooplesTheThird]

He's truly the most underrated cog in the Rammstein machine. Absolute beast when it comes to creating simple sounding yet complex bass riffs

[@fernav8070]

Yessss 🔥❤️

[@Emoldi]

Nobody at Rammstein is gay, they are all married. But they just defend being different.

[@lemsip207]

Till is now divorced but might be in a relationship. He's polyamorous.

[@lemsip207]

Richard might be bisexual or at least bicurious.

[@ThatKeterScp]

the only proven heterosexuals in rammstein are ollie and flake. the rest has shown curiosity towards bisexuality

[@lemsip207]

@@ThatKeterScp Just like Maneskin then. Victoria is definitely bisexual while each of the three men have said they are open or bicurious but it doesn't mean they might have had the gay experience. I do think Richard gets off on the kiss after Auslander live.

[@ThatKeterScp]

@@lemsip207 truly. There’s not nothing between these two

[@merileopardisaksassa7030]

The backstory here is: Till lost a bet with some gay friends and had to go clubbing with them back on the day. We all know he's a pretty sexually charged guy, and he observed the 'good' side of being gay in those clubs. Sexual liberity, less wooing, passion. In this song he works through both the good parts and the bad ones of being gay :D Destiny has given him a gift, but he's also the nightmare of all fathers. He's stated several times that he felt somewhat jealous of his gay friends because dating and casual sex is handled more similarily to his own preferences in the gay scene (aka polyamory, no age difference stigma etc.).

[@duncanmccann2715]

I understand your point, but I would say (as a gay man) that age stigma is very strong on the gay scene - maybe just in the UK - also HIV stigma,body image and race. As you say, good parts and bad parts...

[@dallesamllhals9161]

@@duncanmccann2715 As in young flesh = better? ;-P

[@ericjohnson6634]

@Duncan McCann Definitely not just in the UK.

[@mitchelfisher9422]

One of my favorites, I love Schneiders drumming in this so powerful

[@_M_a_r_t_i_n_M]

That is a decent German translation actually. Most sites just butcher their lyrics. But as someone who grew up with a father and grandparents who spoke German in the household (I sadly forgot most of the language and speak in a WW2 dialect for what I can remember). This song, a bit on the history of it. They had a concert where they invited some of their gay friends to it. And those friends were beaten by members of the crowd just because of their sexual preferences. They then wrote this song, and made this video, specifically to piss off those people who harmed their friends. And to make a point that if you cannot tolerate homosexuality, that they would rather not have you listening to them at all. A peaceful form of revenge so to speak. I actually love the premise, the music, and find the lyrics amusing.

[@Growlizing]

Hah, I listened to a lot of Rammstein when I was learning German, so I tend to roll my Rs too much and exaggerate the ch sounds :D

[@_M_a_r_t_i_n_M]

@@Growlizing Same here. I would get very strange looks if I were to pronounce my last name 'correctly' And it was actually only in the last decade of my life that I learned that modern Germans DO NOT roll the R's.. From the memory of my Oma and Opa's voices, especially my Oma, she would do a long roll of the R for a lot of her words, even speaking English.. IDK, she just flat refused to put aside her culture and language.. Never fully became fluent in English and actually forgot most of her English towards the last years of her life. I really want to go travelling around Europe sometime to visit historical sites and see the electronic music/clubbing scene for all I was hoping it would be here in North America and was horribly disappointed by. I am getting very sick of politics here and have fantasies about expatriating from time to time. Until I read about society there and how it can be worse in many ways. The grass is always greener I guess.

[@spring_in_paris]

Hi you two. Nice reaction, as usual. It was fun to see you reading the lyrics while listening to the banging song and watching the video. Don't worry when I listen to a Rammstein song respectively the lyrics the first time, I look about the same you just did. Jaw dropped face.It's so good. I just love how they address these topics without any hesitation. Right into your face. The way Till writes the lyrics is shocking and beautiful at the same time. His two poems books are amazing, too. With love from Germany 🤘 😎

[@Congaman41]

Love the courage of Rammstein, they are never affraid of digging in to topics. Here a clear support of the gay community. Who else would dare to do this?

[@MrVendarAmar]

As he used the f-word in place of the German word "Schwuler": It should be said, "Schwuler" is in my opinion a little context and tone sensitive and can range from how you (US) use "gay" to a very hateful "f-word". Having said that, it is closer to the f-word meaning in this context. eedit and PS: we have the word "Schwuchtel" which I would (if I had to) translate with the f-word as it's almost identically in tone and circumstance used

[@educatedmarine]

Till uses "Schwulah" which is why I was comfortable using a slang term instead of the word "gay" for that circumstance

[@MrVendarAmar]

@@educatedmarine no, I totally get why you choose that

[@educatedmarine]

@@MrVendarAmar I understand that you know don't worry. I was getting backlash from others so I thought I'd reply here too :)

[@Anunakaowo]

Эта песня идеально описывает то , что происходит у нас , в мужских раздевалках)

[@Xannf]

Пздц! 🤣🤣🤣

[@necromontys.]

FANTASTIC, THANKS FOR THIS SONG AND YOU'RE WONDERFUL REACTION, MORE MORE RAMMSTEIN !!!!!! 💞💞💞💞

[@ТушканчикПолевой]

I love emotions and facial expressions Chels, and what kind of eyes mmm, you are just created to make reactions👍😍

[@cyrilgoodman2101]

Feel bad for Chels. So disappointed for no man parts... just cracks.

[@AnteFuerst]

😂

[@Raguel88]

The original on several pornsites had some junks

[@carograh]

You can see Flakes in one spot if you look close enuff lol

[@cyrilgoodman2101]

@@carograh how many hours did it take you ....lol

[@carograh]

@@cyrilgoodman2101 🤣🤣 not many I actually never noticed til I found a gif of Richard & Flake was behind him…at one point you can see it but it happens pretty fast 😆😆

[@rstein5432]

It is cool to see that you are watching the official music videos now.

[@StineFL]

This was a fun reaction!! I love that you guys reacted to educatedmarine's video 😄 it's VERY interesting to read the comments section on this one! 😂 I love how Rammstein, and especially Till's writing, can be so much up for debate! Thanks guys! Looking very much forward to the next Till/Rammstein reaction 😄👏

[@ТушканчикПолевой]

by the way, why is Till the only one of the group who is not completely naked? and all because it would be inconvenient for him to hide behind a microphone alone, and at the same time sing at the same time, at least all members of the group can hide behind instruments, but Till has nothing, so they gave him swimming trunks😁

[@bartspyron5897]

plus consider the time context, around 2006. 13 years later Till will dare such things.

[@lemsip207]

At the end they are all wear flesh coloured jock straps.

[@lemsip207]

@@bartspyron5897 I think 2006 was much more liberal or at least it was in the UK. There was a Labour Government and the world hadn't yet entered a recession.

[@stephanewantiez164]

@@bartspyron5897 Till has already done much worse 😅 (check "Till the End" from Lindemann)

[@stephaniescally7472]

The mein teil official video is pretty good also.

[@agnesszajko8600]

In my opinion the best.

[@hexenwerk8905]

Great song. Are you interested in a really nice Rammstein beach party? Then check out „Mein Land“ 🖤

[@VerrückteWolke]

PLEASE 🙏

[@bartspyron5897]

That one was really funny first time I watched It. A new level of comedy with Rammstein.

[@RickReasonnz]

I am obsessed with that video

[@LeDudeDK]

Never in my entire life have I seen a woman staring so concentrated on a screen without blinking as you did in this video .....

[@kaisarion6668]

This is a song from the point of view of a Gay man. This was written in 2004 when “Reise, Reise” was recorded. It was released in 2005 in the album “Rosenrot” composed of leftover songs from the recording sessions for “Reise Reise”. Rammstein has always been based as hell man. When this came out in 2005-06, Gay couples could not even get legally married in the USA.

[@MW-cx3sb]

Its debatable which songclip is gayer this one or any live recording of 'buck dich' lol

[@aerialarboreal9005]

It's about the persecution of being a gay man and how it's not a choice either... That's what I took from it and I'm sooo impressed, such a brave topic for a band to take... Epsecuially a heavy metal band!! Green Day did "King for a Day" which is about dressing up as a girl but it's a fun song... This is WAAAAAY seroius!! Oh and I think Till was acting as Iggy Pop... No? Looked like him?? Thanks for this, I've never seem this version... I love this band however after THAT video? I think I need to go watch some 'striaght' porn' LOL!!

[@JakobFischer60]

Just noticed they cite (a king without a queen) from "The little prince" a childs book from french author Antoine de Saint-Exupery. Is it known in the US?

[@dgrimes133]

It's my understanding that the literal translation of Mann Gegen Mann is "man against man," but that it's also a German colloquial expression equivalent to the English colloquialism "head to head" or "hand to hand," as in single combat at close quarters. Google Translate is not perfect, but seems to have given an optional translation, in this case.

[@MrWeezler]

Which also goes to show that Rammstein lyrics are in large parts impossible to translate without much of the meaning or jokes being lost :)

[@GabrielCsaba]

This vid looks like RHCP's Warped video having the mother of all bad trips.

[@JoshSweetvale]

Till does an excellent Ozzy here. Wonder if it's convergent evolution or a homage.

[@stephenmiller195]

This music video is awesome thanks guys great reaction

[@therichone431]

I listen This track i am kid 12 Years And now my real age Is 28 Rammstein Is brutal The best millionaires from germany my Favorites greetings from Costa Rica ..

[@Rednosei]

Brave great Video, Song and Lyric too! 👍

[@Kay_The_Coffee_Weirdo]

This song is about the struggles of being a gay man. Rammstein literally knows no bounds. You do see Flake's junk for a moment at one point. Just for the record.

[@lemsip207]

I can never see that.

[@ruzbehhadaegh290]

You guys are awesome.

[@eDDyL666]

The title translate is man against man but the slight difference in the German word is used in the vid which can translate to man gay for man

[@Prodavion]

I like the expression on Chels face LOL :)

[@TheHeartlessFour]

You guys should try Rosenrot!

[@matthiasfellbaum7988]

please react to the music video from "Rosenrot" it is my favourite

[@simoncool97]

Well those 4 words were a nice recap of Rammstein "The fuck was that ?"

[@Lancealot3553]

Rammstein lead me to you guys, your reaction made me stay. A lot of other reactors to this song really prove that we have a huge problem in America with homophobia. But you guys are awesome count me in👍

[@HammerDemonn]

She's like "WTF". And dude's just vibing:-)

[@sidewinder8344]

I really love your reaction vids

[@MatandChelsReact]

What a lovely compliment. Thank you! 😁

[@tosa2522]

The snake tongue of Till is a thing of video director Jonas Åkerlund. In the video for Ich tu dir weh he also gave Till this tongue.

[@bartspyron5897]

You are americans. Those whose opinion I mind the most when It comes to analyzing the video "Amerika". I hope you try that one one day.

[@Simbstah1]

Ive never heard so much dissapointment in a voice as Chels stating "they were nude, but i didnt see any man parts"..

[@MatandChelsReact]

😂

[@lemsip207]

They wore flesh coloured jock straps in the second half.

[@SawyersHerpetology]

Rammstein - Mein Land!! You'll love that one!

[@Sayki-nm2vw]

Best music for Eurovision!

[@кусокводы]

Hahah I thought I was strange or this song and music video was strange, but when I saw your face, lady, I got that every girl could react this way and in spite of it love this song.

[@fabricericker7320]

Till had the idea of this song after having a cool night at a gay party with some gay friends of him. He wanted after that to do a disturbing song (not disturbing for me but for homophobic people, he he he), a song FOR gays, against homophobic ideas. It remembers me at the high school, heterosexual, but kissing the only (outed) gay guy on the floor, creating a bottleneck, to shock close-minded people and force them to accept other sexual orientation (in the late 70's, hu hu hu). it was funny -- and the guy was a real good kisser, only the badly shaved beard stubble disturbed a little bit :-D

[@arc6017]

Ahhahahahah Chels´s face throughout out the video :D :D The song is awesome and that riff is killer but this video....I can´t..I....even...I don´t..... :) Even Chels that usually has big eyes for Till was unconfortable. Rammstein are not afraid of shock (and in this case to alert to homophobia) even at their own expenses (Till just looks ridiculous :D ) Great reaction, stick to the live version in Paris :D

[@carograh]

Yes they are really nude there & I thought at one time maybe they were wearing those little flesh colored stocking things but then I saw a gif I think it’s still saved on my phone somewhere… I saved it mainly because of Richard but in the background you can see Flake & his…ummmmm….manhood lol I was like 😳😳😳😳

[@bartspyron5897]

I did notice It on KZbin.

[@carograh]

@@bartspyron5897 🤣🤣

[@Awp056]

Translation is on Point

[@Ignis_Infinitus_Infernus]

My girlfriend loves this music video, I can't figure out why.

[@dallesamllhals9161]

Cishet♀s LOVE gay ♂s! Don't ask me why 😕 ('cause i don't know)

[@kenwilmarth68]

I'm guessing Chels liked this video

[@GuyIncognito486]

MonsterVision! Joe Bob Briggs was a MAJOR part of my childhood!

[@MatandChelsReact]

He's still doing it today on Shudder!

[@johngavlick6479]

I recommend checking out Zerstören

[@sammitchell3657]

Beautiful song.

[@barbaramorcinczyk7169]

React,, Mein Herz brennt,, official video 🤟❤️❤️

[@indyrevoly3060]

"so originally google had screwed us and translated this as head to head" yeah, i gotta tell you, i don't think google was necessarily wrong in this case

[@leosiry8334]

Finally !

[@vhoneymoonv]

Her face 😭 NAJSJSJSKSKD

[@michaelfinck7487]

I`m so sorry for sad Chels... she didn't see any "man-parts" My beloved Chels, if you had seen and enjoyed "man-parts", your channel would now be gone, loooooooool But to put your mind at ease, Rammstein also has videos with "man-parts" But for this you need the passwords for "special pages" and only your husband has them(Rammstein-fanboy joking)

[@MatandChelsReact]

Haha! We have reacted to a few of those explicit videos and they are on our Patreon 😉

[@michaelfinck7487]

@@MatandChelsReact I know, but I have also the passwords for these "special pages" :-)

[@VenschZitroneneis]

I thought "faggot" was not quite correct as a translation. Screamed like that it gives off that feel certainly, but "Schwuler" only means homosexual. As always with their texts it then goes on with the second line, so basically it's then "homosexual man against man"

[@markanderson3848]

Why the forked tongue is Till telling us something about the song ?

[@jamesgillen2339]

"That was a very interesting video."

[@AdePowa]

MANN GEGEN MANN!!!!

[@MADNESS_NH_97]

3:58 Okay, that Translation is wrong. "Schwuler" doesn't translate to "Faggot". "Schwul" means "Gay", so that's simply what a gay person is called. And that slur certaintly isn't supposed to be part of the lyrics.

[@StineFL]

What I love about any lyrics of Till, is that they're rarely obvious, but open for interpretation. The way I understand it, Schwulah isn't an "official" word, but rather a mix between the words for "f*" and "gay". So that alone leaves it ambiguous as to what the intention behind the word is. It makes sense then, to look at the word in the context of the rest of the lyrics. Right before that word is screamed out, he sings of days his heart is breaking, with cold tongues beating at him. To me, this sounds very much like hate. Throughout the song, my impression is that he's out and proud, doing what he likes, but constantly aware of the hate and/or judgment against him (all fathers fears their son will be gay, when a woman makes a move and is rejected, the whole world is shocked and confused). Still, he tries to carry on and not care, but, on some days, it just gets to be enough. Him screaming the f* word in our faces is, imo, his way of really blasting us with all the hate he experiences. This is why I absolutely think that this word is a right representation for the word. It's the impact that matters. Taking away that, takes away all the power that song exudes to me. Also, Till is not known to be shy from expressing himself controversially 😅 that doesn't mean that the intentions behind are bad. Just that he expresses his way in a brutally honest way. Anyways, that's just my interpretation 😂 I respect your views on the matter, and can see why you would interpret it that way. This is exactly why I find discussing Rammstein lyrics so much fun!

[@Slears]

imho by far the best Rammstein song

[@jpstocc312]

Hey, recommend u to react to Sepultura, a brazillian metal Band that is really famous in the metal world. React to "Ratamahata" and "Bloody Roots", both songs have an amazing and crazy clip! I think u would enjoy

[@iffschwarzenegger2814]

Mein Lieblingslied👍🏻 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟

[@grace2cor98]

I will admit that I was disappointed there were no “slips” in the camera angles! 😆😅🤷🏻‍♀️

[@MatandChelsReact]

😆

[@JynxedKoma]

I cannot imagine how awkward Chel must have felt watching this!

[@lemsip207]

She wouldn't review these videos if they disgusted her.

[@lemsip207]

The ape like men were behaving more sensual with each other while the band were playing. This reminds me of the olive oil parties at ZEGG, an intentional eco community, south of Berlin. But when the band other than Till joined in it looked like those extras were roughing up the band members. Richard & Christoph were standing to the side. Probably were too heavy to skim across the extras as Flake & Oliver did. Paul was standing in the middle being pushed about roughly by them & he looked like he was in pain.

[@gregoryvandervelde6550]

Till for president 😀

[@TattooSwag22]

Till Is actually a full blown Bisexual but also into S&M to my knowledge.

[@Kimteach2011]

How about Ollie? Im referring to the S&M part.

[@chrisxdeathxinfiniti]

please react to rammstein-mein tail official video , is a massterpiece

[@DB-vl9ob]

Rammstein is GOD

[@darioteves1389]

2 hours??

[@migrationsforschermitbreit6744]

..translation is OK, but some little mistakes: "gleich und gleich gesellt sich gern" means: people of the same kind stick together. Rammstein ist pure german poetry - and straight down the road.

[@pyrointeam]

I would have translated one word different. My skin belongs to the Lord/Mister/Master. Not Gentleman. You know? Herr (dem Herrn = to the Lord) stands for Mr. or Man/Gentleman Like Mr. Peterson = Herr Peterson as well as Master as Well as The Lord (thank the Lord = danket dem Herrn). It is a word play by rammstein specifically attacking homophobia within the Christian belief/church and the mental conflict of being religious but at the same time not pleasing the Lord. Ich bin der Diener zweier Herrn means i am the the sub/servant/slave of two "Herren", the Lord and the worldly human male partner. Kalte Zungen die da schlagen means Cold (hateful unempathic) tongues hit/beat up by saying: Schwule aahhh (gays ahhh screaming like they are evil, a threat or contagious and you have to run away from them or fight them )

[@MADNESS_NH_97]

Please react to "Die Ärzte" - "Junge". Since you've reacted to a lot of Rammstein already, it's time you finally give this band a chance as well. Here's a link to the uncut version, with English subs added. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKWomKVteN16pNU

[@archthrone5815]

You should react to new enterprise earth track!

[@rockonileva]

I don't know why, but it seems to me that Till is portraying (or at least trying to portray) Anthony Kiedis in this video...

[@lemsip207]

And also early Peter Gabriel.

[@selselful]

She likes what she sees...

[@sociallyawkwardpenguin9097]

Translating "Schwuler" with "faggot" is just plain wrong! It just means gay person, non derogatory.

[@baizuo_6246]

Not German myself but in some German media I have seen it been used in a derogatory way. And in this song it would make sense not sure if its just a same sounding word

[@metabolic_6669]

Как много тестостерона в этом видео))

[@christopherrichmond3742]

trhe story goes till has a gay friend who took him out one night on the town and till realized how much fun the gays have compared to straight ppl and decided to make a song about how gays are pictured and treated

[@alexfwolcholder7955]

In ev'ry Rammstein song a Message is hidden... Translate the text and look at the pics, then just use ur brain!...;-)

[@NorthernStare]

Rammstein will always be accused of something. Left wing, right wing, chicken wing. Personally I think they are right-leaning Reich enthusiast's, who chickened out when push came to shove. Doesn't stop my liking them though

[@senatuspopulusqueromanus543]

anybody ever doubted Rammstein are left handed???

[@burnsZY85]

I am guessing they won't be doing a react to the video for Pussy on here lol

[@Saveira161]

you two should look more MV

[@Tona6569]

this guy looks like James LaBrie

[@niiica__________294]

Der Song ist wirklich schwer zu übersetzen..... Nicht die Worte, mehr die Bedeutung

[@odunhops7727]

wow - muscles ..... ecept Plake (the boneman) :-D

[@АлексейКовшиков-э2ч]

It's nice 👍

[@ollikahn9138]

Thank you for the video! very nice to look at you) please make a reaction to the official video Rammstein-haifisch You are super! thanks!

[@arte.reaccion6080]

A song about homophobia. Rammstein is brave, since the begining of his carreer

[@maris1407]

Ihr Gesichtsausdruck 😂😂😂

[@nofuture6662]

The last two "man against man" it's not the right translation, in the original version Till says "Mann Gaygen Mann"

[@gtrrrrrg]

Ok, as a German i can see there are too much metaphers you both didnt understand. So it would crack you really up😂 In the other songs you got the Most

[@hiroakihanyu]

very well translated, even though puns are missing, but i guess you can't really translate them into english without butchering the lyrics