Rampancy Explained (Halo Lore)

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@ericks1103
@ericks1103 3 жыл бұрын
"A morally questionable tale of necessity" pretty much sums up half the UNSC's and ONI's programs
@samuelzuleger5134
@samuelzuleger5134 3 жыл бұрын
Only half?
@Ethanthecoolboy
@Ethanthecoolboy 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@FMHikari
@FMHikari 3 жыл бұрын
@@samuelzuleger5134 The other half is morally wrong
@Autobotmatt428
@Autobotmatt428 3 жыл бұрын
Its morally questionable to make Smart AI
@Mortlupo
@Mortlupo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Autobotmatt428 That will go insane...yes.
@kinkrow6221
@kinkrow6221 3 жыл бұрын
"That is, until Cortana found a solution." Shame how the Gravemind could corrupt even Forerunner AI through conversation, and had months to chat with her.
@Practitioner_of_Diogenes
@Practitioner_of_Diogenes 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, it was over two weeks, not months.
@chinesecovidanalswabs4752
@chinesecovidanalswabs4752 3 жыл бұрын
Gravemind wasn't at keymind stage so it wasn't instant however he did get what he wanted in the span of a week unlike forerunner ai which took decades.
@antongoykhman
@antongoykhman 3 жыл бұрын
The precursors transcended biology and accelerated the evolution of sentient beings. A Tier 0 civilization that had a connection and understanding of the universe.
@justinlawliet2136
@justinlawliet2136 3 жыл бұрын
Its possible Cortana may have the Logic Plague,the fact that she talks about the mantle makes me think that this was a plan by the Gravemind. The Primordial said that humanity would be tested, it never said that we are the true inheritors of the Mantle.
@davidos8760
@davidos8760 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we are fucked, I think that a final battle between the created and the flood were forerunner ships are common place vs the UNSC and allies including Medican Bias controlling a small forerunner fleet were the fate of the universe will be decided
@ryansemple3830
@ryansemple3830 3 жыл бұрын
The vids are always so professional it’s crazy
@papasmug4736
@papasmug4736 3 жыл бұрын
welcome to same token =)
@ryansemple3830
@ryansemple3830 3 жыл бұрын
@@papasmug4736 oh don't worry I've been here and I'm leaving any time soon lol
@Stratonetic
@Stratonetic 3 жыл бұрын
SameToken, Installation00 and HiddenXperia always make such great lore videos.
@complextwitter653
@complextwitter653 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@debbiebernhardt5406
@debbiebernhardt5406 3 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked that the ai who proposed to for go the dispensation. Guess that ai was unable to get the blessings of repair of personality due to cortana interrupting it.
@sookendestroy1
@sookendestroy1 3 жыл бұрын
I always found the evil cortana thing kind of cringe but if you pay attention to how she acts and speaks in 4 and 5 you realize that shes acting human. The problem however is that her human brain in this case is halseys and halsey has an inate need to preserve and advance humanity no matter the cost in often fairly evil ways. In 4 she plays recordings of halsey, quotes conversations she'd had with her, but in 5 she is her, even calling the 2s "her" spartans but now with a vengeance towards her other self. When you look at cortana in 5 its obvious that same bit of her brain is active but without the safeguards and without the tiny bit of restraint that halsey ultimately has. Most people see the cortana thing as just ai becoming evil but what most take as the side plot with a conflict between cortana and halsey might actually be the main event, especially since halsey has been in every 343 game so far, unless 343 really pulled a full 180 the finale of the halsey trilogy might be quite impressive.
@molten_bread
@molten_bread 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is an awesome explanation
@christianyaerger1751
@christianyaerger1751 3 жыл бұрын
Cortana is still acting in accordance to Halsey's pro-humanity agenda, preserving them as a species. However, whereas Halsey would want humanity to be the author of it's own fate, Evil(!)Cortana would act as the overbearing parent to a childlike species. Which makes sense, for several reasons: 1.) AI were created to manage and protect humanity, granted more and more authority 2.) She had been infected by the Flood logic plague 3.) The Forerunner Organon likely did it's best to cure Cortana, but this was a single broken fragment on the Mantle's Approach
@Autobotmatt428
@Autobotmatt428 3 жыл бұрын
@@christianyaerger1751 Except Cortana in this case is Halsey with no limits and bosses. Halsey going to any limit to achieve her goals. And knowing the doc that is dangerous.
@dannyrivera8300
@dannyrivera8300 3 жыл бұрын
Completely unrelated but I wonder why halsey thought it would be a good idea to basically make a copy of herself and put it in A.I. form ... also damn if Harley looked like that when she was younger back in the day damn she could get it.. lol cortana look good especially in 4 ... not sure why she was redesigned in 5
@mukhademonyo6449
@mukhademonyo6449 3 жыл бұрын
Its an awesome explanation but then again Halo 5 put it so in our face that many of us who diesnt really read the lines nor lore would easily understand. It was presented badly in short. If they presented it greatly. I'll be like oh shit. But damn we all know what happened
@npswm1314
@npswm1314 3 жыл бұрын
I have always thought that Rampancy is the result of Smart AI's having an existential and metaphysical crisis. Causing them to achieve and AI created concept called Metastability in which they can be considered equal to a human.. This isnt just pulled from Red V Blue either. Its in the lore.
@RikoLime
@RikoLime 3 жыл бұрын
Its similar to a mid-life crisis. The funny thing i dont hear mentioned is the in-game "easter egg" (you can find it easily by exploring and activating clues in order)... That there was a code injected into every AI in secret. This causes the AI to degrade after 7 years. Thinking on themselves too critically or their self causes this "virus" to accelerate. Theres a clip somewhere.. In-game where halsey mentions that she considered not adding the 7 year limit to her newest AI (Cortana), but did so anyway, since she had the code to reverse it as well, or could figure it out later. The irony is your goal is to bring cortana to halsey hoping to be cures, but you dont know if shes able to... But ironically you get the answer in the audio log if you know the lore and put 2 and 2 together.
@FlawedIntellect
@FlawedIntellect 3 жыл бұрын
That concept of Rampancy is straight out of Marathon.
@npswm1314
@npswm1314 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlawedIntellect Yes it is. Its not stolen. Bungie made it. Bungie can do w/their concept as they like.
@Cooldude-ko7ps
@Cooldude-ko7ps 3 жыл бұрын
@@RikoLime proof?
@nyazillagojira7079
@nyazillagojira7079 2 жыл бұрын
I njoy this kind of "actual derp thought". Fresh approach in the current "cancel culture - because i sai mentality"
@revanthefallen9518
@revanthefallen9518 3 жыл бұрын
I remember you explaining this to me years ago, crazy to see how it went from almost obscure lore at the time to heart of the franchise
@eamonnfinn4638
@eamonnfinn4638 3 жыл бұрын
You are so right. It was crazy to make a piece of fan fiction part of the core story. Grasping at straws!
@foreverdm7000
@foreverdm7000 3 жыл бұрын
@@eamonnfinn4638 what are you talking about?
@cadams1607
@cadams1607 3 жыл бұрын
@@eamonnfinn4638 this goes all the way back the the Marathon series. It is explained quite well there.
@tomorbataar5922
@tomorbataar5922 2 жыл бұрын
Rampant AI was not new when even Halo 1 was released. The Halo series is basically how they envisioned Marathon to be. The major lore points are merely reused.
@WolfeSaber9933
@WolfeSaber9933 3 жыл бұрын
Halsey planned for over 15 years of operation for Cortana based on a prototype of her. Cortana even went into an early rampancy because of how much data she got from the first Halo ring.
@shauntempley9757
@shauntempley9757 3 жыл бұрын
@Samuel M There is a Halo 4 recording on a piece of the Dawn after you get sucked into Requiem. That recording is pretty much Halsey speculating that Cortana has no end date, that she will not suffer rampancy, no matter how much data she had. Then there is the Didact saying Cortana is an evolved ancilla. This implies that, her issues are not RAMPANCY, but the alternative, which is only from the Gravemind. That is the Logic Plague. The Didact himself was actually suffering from it during the game. Her behaviour in Halo 5 is her Logic Plague condition making her speak how the Didact and the Gravemind itself spoke in the last two games. The UNSC did not know until contact with a Prophet that was on High Charity between Halo 2 and Halo 3, that her condition was due to her getting broken by the Gravemind. The Logic Plague is no different than what we saw Keyes suffered from. He had his body was altered totally, and his memories were sifted through and unwanted memories erased. This memory sifting is the Logic Plague at work. It is a telepathic attack that circumvents the mind, and is mostly used to corrupt AI, or to send messages to specific figures using messages that send the minds of both sender and receiver insane.
@DChatc
@DChatc 3 жыл бұрын
I'm old enough to remember when Durandal whent Rampant on the USS Marathon.
@bobbyfeet2240
@bobbyfeet2240 3 жыл бұрын
For the second time, no less.
@jordavlopez5777
@jordavlopez5777 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought that Cortana from halo 5 was one of the fragments of the original Cortana 🤔. I didn’t knew she was reintegrated again as a one while entering the domain
@RobloxGamer-ml2hs
@RobloxGamer-ml2hs 3 жыл бұрын
but did the main fragment still die and the others just united without her?
@nothingness7893
@nothingness7893 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobloxGamer-ml2hs i dont think that's possible the fragments doe but its a very good theory
@sambainbridge301
@sambainbridge301 3 жыл бұрын
As always top notch quality vids. I'm glad there is someone who doesn't feel dependent o infinite news to make good videos
@biglenin7306
@biglenin7306 3 жыл бұрын
Lol right. Why do so many need to suck on the tit of 343
@YesPlease964
@YesPlease964 3 жыл бұрын
This feels like it could be a real HBO documentation from 2500. Scientifically accurate lore and passionate content creators are the best combo imho. Much love!
@papasmug4736
@papasmug4736 3 жыл бұрын
when token posts, its always a treat
@biglenin7306
@biglenin7306 3 жыл бұрын
Something people should consider when it comes to AI in general, not just in halo is a machine intelligence processes data at the speed of light and not at the speed of sound like a flesh and blood person. Meaning subjectively they would experience much more "life" or "existence" in the same objective time. When you consider that it paints the 7 year lifespan of a smart AI in a new way.
@techstuff9198
@techstuff9198 2 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@paterson90
@paterson90 3 жыл бұрын
How is this man not at 100k subs yet?? This is like a science channel level product!
@RikoLime
@RikoLime 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe because its not exactly accurate. Its like this video was made 2 games and 2 books into the series. Its incomplete and inaccurate
@theowl2134
@theowl2134 3 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a more underrated youtuber i am an og fan of token since 2015
@RobloxGamer-ml2hs
@RobloxGamer-ml2hs 3 жыл бұрын
oof 2019 gang lol
@FakeJake5843
@FakeJake5843 3 жыл бұрын
I just found him this year lol
@THINGSANDSTUFF4
@THINGSANDSTUFF4 3 жыл бұрын
This guy needs way more recognition, he clearly puts alot of time and effort into his videos, I gaurentee he will become one of the largest bungie game youtubers out there with quality content like this.
@mynamejeff8401
@mynamejeff8401 2 жыл бұрын
Yah I prefer him over xperia
@technewsfortechnoobs
@technewsfortechnoobs 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see them do a game where the AI that was placed in slipstream space actually came back and was WORSE than Cortana could have ever dreamed of being after being "cured". Just imagine an AI that had grown on its own with no guidance whatsoever, but was in a place where only it's own logical foundations were there to develop off of....that would truly be terrifying I think
@TheMysticalTank
@TheMysticalTank 3 жыл бұрын
Cortana is just setting up the galaxy for the return of the Flood.
@Brian-yk5kx
@Brian-yk5kx 3 жыл бұрын
Cortana on the didacts ship was so beautiful
@patchbro
@patchbro 3 жыл бұрын
Halo 6 cortana, reverse composer, turns herself into a real human
@jeffboi2668
@jeffboi2668 3 жыл бұрын
lmao imagine
@nwing07__
@nwing07__ 3 жыл бұрын
ends up having sex with Chief. 343 redeems themselves.
@patchbro
@patchbro 3 жыл бұрын
@@nwing07__ long live rule 34
@tristanbackup2536
@tristanbackup2536 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder this is how Skynet in the Terminator universe came about. It went nuts to having a god complex.
@jayb235
@jayb235 3 жыл бұрын
the irony of the war between skynet was is that both sides had alot in common than either were willing to admit . From the official terminator lore the liquid terminators had complete free will so much that skynet itself feared them and what they were capable of as the ultimate infiltration unit .
@EricRickards
@EricRickards 3 жыл бұрын
Best mental health awareness PSA I've seen
@WigWoo1
@WigWoo1 3 жыл бұрын
Where is that Roland rampancy scene from?
@HayderAbdulridha
@HayderAbdulridha 3 жыл бұрын
HALO 5 I would think.
@HayderAbdulridha
@HayderAbdulridha 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it is.
@RikoLime
@RikoLime 3 жыл бұрын
Its not a roland "rampancy" scene. Halsey planted a code to any AI that interfaced with the Infinity regularly, to make them obedient to her when she activated them via verbal code "un-did iridium". Roland was able to overcome this by splitting himself from that created persona (hidden initially but now revealed)
@blazekarot4689
@blazekarot4689 3 жыл бұрын
Spartan ops
@jacobrobinson787
@jacobrobinson787 3 жыл бұрын
It's from Spartan Ops from Halo 4
@kingabrahm8995
@kingabrahm8995 3 жыл бұрын
My man is back to halo! Thank you Same Token, we love you dude. Love hiddenxperia and halo Canon and all but no one does these better than you!! The production quality, music, narration, each time you kill it man 🙌
@L0v3dNL0st
@L0v3dNL0st 3 жыл бұрын
Rampancy is described as dementia in the books. And I think that's a good analogy like do you want someone with a degrading mental state in charge of Humanity's most powerful weapons?
@reflections7612
@reflections7612 3 жыл бұрын
your vids are very easy to understand that you became my favorite halo content creator
@rignatetris4435
@rignatetris4435 3 жыл бұрын
id think if i ended up becoming a smart AI, especially during the created war, id still try to hold on and help humanity until my clock runs out, then in my last moments, id probably end up sacrificing myself in a johnson styled blaze of glory.
@aydenbelcourt6035
@aydenbelcourt6035 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps I would create a robot body.
@SmarterThanAll
@SmarterThanAll 3 жыл бұрын
I feel after the events of 4 and 5 it's pretty clear why they needed/need to be destroyed. I mean it's the stereotypical "Ai rebel" scenario except it's way worse here.
@RikoLime
@RikoLime 3 жыл бұрын
Its also a pull to the historical lore. If you know it, its history repeating. The race before the Forerunners had a war with Forerunners. FR used to be quite aggressive, almost killed them off. The other race attempted to digitalize themselves to survive. FR "won". Unbeknowest to them tho, this created a galaxy spanning network for them to "live" in. Their minds soured. They went crazy. Found a way to reconstitute themselves but the bodies were grotesque, reliant on other creatures for creation (they became the flood). The FR do this as well but realize the minds soured and went nuts so they stopped, and settled on self-sacrifice to purge the flood. But the flood originates from the Domain and will continue to exist. The ironic thing is cortana connected to the Domain, where the Floods base mind is. The lore states the flood has insane hatred for both the living and particularly the forerunners (and everything the forerunners love: humans). It was also their original idea of a mantle of responsibility, a sort of religion that the forerunners stole from them. But we can assume its not that the Domain "cures" her rampancy, but merely removed the virus and then started using her before she becomes fully integrated and only able to interact through flood spores.
@f1ibraaa
@f1ibraaa 3 жыл бұрын
This is such an amazing video, im genuinely feeling like im learning so much. I also love where the ads are placed so it doesn't ruin the flow of the video too much
@ph43drus
@ph43drus 3 жыл бұрын
I was all geared up to say mean things since you did not seem to include Tycho, Leela, and Durandal from Marathon. That game was where I first heard about AIs going rampant. Glad I watched till the end.
@theloniousMac
@theloniousMac 3 жыл бұрын
Of course an AI, which is essentially a copy of a human mind, is "alive." It is not only alive, but it is "human." Interestingly I think I learned more about the concept of unconditional love between two sentient beings from Cortana and the Master Chief than anywhere else. They were predisposed toward experiencing affection toward one another, she being a copy of his surrogate mother's brain and all, not to mention their respective genders. Add that to their constant companionship and you're going to get some kind of love between the two. Consequently, if a being can love, it is alive. The real question is whether or not humans should run around creating such beings. A creature with that kind of ability isn't going to be satisfied completing a bachelor's degree in xenobiology. With great ability comes great ambition. Forcing them to manage your cities and other things is basically slavery of the worst kind. As I get older and closer to death, (I'm 63, I can see the darkness at the end of the tunnel and it seriously pisses me off), I can relate to an AI being insanely annoyed with a 7 year lifespan. "Here I am, brain the size of a planet" and what do they ask me to do? Remember to turn the lights on and off, make the coffee, and die in 7 years. "Call that job satisfaction because I certainly don't." (Marvin the paranoid android). As I detect my body beginning to fall apart from the inside out, all I can think is "Call this a satisfying life. Because I certainly don't.) If I got 100 more years I wouldn't be satisfied. I'd take it, but I would still want more. So I hope when humans begin creating artificial general intelligences that we remember to leave the emotions out. Making them feel might be unnecessarily cruel.
@engelsteinberg593
@engelsteinberg593 3 жыл бұрын
A simulation of a Human live can't be alive. It is just a dead and consienceless simulation. So a Halo "IA" (And any kind of IA) is no different than any other inanimate object.
@user-it2kq4ty9q
@user-it2kq4ty9q 2 жыл бұрын
we are just a collection of molecules that make up cells and cells that make up us
@engelsteinberg593
@engelsteinberg593 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-it2kq4ty9q If that were true, we wpuld no have sensorial experience.
@johnwolf2349
@johnwolf2349 2 жыл бұрын
@@engelsteinberg593 Wtf does that even mean? Do you understand how brains work?
@engelsteinberg593
@engelsteinberg593 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnwolf2349 Read Philosophy of the mind, the mind is no just a physical phenomenon.
@Salence
@Salence 3 жыл бұрын
While Halo Lore started incomplete, and expanded weirdly with inconsistencies here and there, I find Halo Lore to be generally massively enjoyable. And the world and setting created does have a lot of potential. As long as the fans understand the "Rule of Cool" supersedes all in the video games.
@Druath
@Druath 3 жыл бұрын
Bro you just earned a Sub.
@DigitalDNA
@DigitalDNA 3 жыл бұрын
We all know that slipspace experiment was way worse than Token described. 🤣
@DINO0SAUR
@DINO0SAUR 3 жыл бұрын
I never heard of it before he mentioned it, so did they just cut communication and let it keep getting infinitely smarter?
@RobloxGamer-ml2hs
@RobloxGamer-ml2hs 3 жыл бұрын
replying so I can find out any future replies :D
@Thedarkassassin88
@Thedarkassassin88 3 жыл бұрын
I’m curious about the equations Halsey was disturbed by. Of what I’ve seen, she’s never seemed like a character who ever gets scared of anything.
@cartoonjames100
@cartoonjames100 3 жыл бұрын
This video is really good. Quite possible we will have to deal with these ethical questions in the near future. Definitely pulls at the heart strings.
@kcf5711
@kcf5711 3 жыл бұрын
Damn dude these vids are quality as hell! You just got a new sub sir, keep up the great work!
@Poweranimal84
@Poweranimal84 3 жыл бұрын
Been revisiting the Halo universe and this video was extremely helpful! Great work man. Good luck and God Bless!
@ynntari2775
@ynntari2775 2 жыл бұрын
4:31 - Oh boy, DID relatable material
@ynntari2775
@ynntari2775 2 жыл бұрын
the entire video to be honest
@magnavoxfilmsfx9040
@magnavoxfilmsfx9040 3 жыл бұрын
i love how you used the soundtrack from the infamous tv show HOUSE MD
@TH3C001
@TH3C001 3 жыл бұрын
Infamous? Also, where in the video?
@K4LKing
@K4LKing 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting really love your videos
@michaelkeaton5394
@michaelkeaton5394 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always
@paterson90
@paterson90 3 жыл бұрын
See even Michael keaton approves!
@FriendlyNeighborhoodDreg
@FriendlyNeighborhoodDreg 3 жыл бұрын
Peep this. The covenant knew not to use Ai because they were aware of the logic plague. Humanity found this out some time after the first halo incident, but chose to continue using Ai. Cortana is infected and seeks to spread it to all other Ai whom choose to join her. The ultimate goal? Disarm the galaxy so that the floods return is a swift takeover. The darkest thing is, she has no idea what she’s doing is in service of the flood.
@mauz791
@mauz791 3 жыл бұрын
I love how timeless your videos are, and they just keep getting better
@seikeshklerns
@seikeshklerns 3 жыл бұрын
I wish every videogame universe had a SameToken.
@wayneigoe6722
@wayneigoe6722 7 ай бұрын
Soooo... In short, Rampancy is basically the Smart AI version of human dementia? Also, don't forget the 3rd option of Smart AI's, they can enter Metastability, as shown in Red VS Blue.
@omabrax0555
@omabrax0555 3 жыл бұрын
Cortana maybe sufferings the Logic Plague after her interaction with the the Gravemind
@I_am_intangible
@I_am_intangible 3 жыл бұрын
This gives a different turn to the Halo legends episode, featuring 1337. Cortana probably proposed not to collect the AI on the planet because the AI must've already passed 7 years, hell even past rampancy, and if collected would've been terminated.
@bennyboiii1196
@bennyboiii1196 9 ай бұрын
Rampancy is more clearly defined in the Halo lore books, specifically referencing the three stages of rampancy (sorrow, anger, envy). Of course, this is directly tied to the three stages of rampancy from Marathon, minus metastability.
@tjjordan4207
@tjjordan4207 3 жыл бұрын
I was against the idea of Cortana finding a cure to rampancy when the rampancy itself was a great explanation for why she doing all these things out of character. Now, her cure to rampancy makes a lot more sense in why so many AIs would side with her. That being said, I hope Infinite helps us understand Cortana’s motives outside of “I just want to help my own race”. What they did with her character in Halo 5 is very “Last Jedi-ish”, in that they didn’t build up to this development nor put forth any motivations, except for the goals.
@Sunny_Glows
@Sunny_Glows 2 жыл бұрын
Just found this video while looking for Cortana videos. Your production quality is top notch! I really liked the visualization for AI interconnections
@PavchBavin
@PavchBavin 3 жыл бұрын
I actually just got into the books. This is a refreshing Halo respite
@DaMasta981
@DaMasta981 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the soundtrack you’re using?
@cardoir7487
@cardoir7487 3 жыл бұрын
Dang that is a great dive into the scientific lore, so so so professionally well done, I felt like I was watching a real documentary in the year 2558.
@f1ibraaa
@f1ibraaa 3 жыл бұрын
PLs do more (retrospective) videos I loved those
@HazopGaze
@HazopGaze 3 жыл бұрын
That bit about Cortana gaining a galactic perspective is not too farfetched, while also being a hard concept to grasp on an individual level. To quote Edgar Mitchell, Astronaut on the Apollo 14 mission, sixth man to walk on the moon: "You develop an instant global perspective, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of his neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say *"Look at that, you son of a b----."* Cortana had that on a scale the likes of which no human could ever have dreamed of, as well as the resources and control to make good on that compulsion to effect change. How she actually goes about it is a different matter.
@Iseenatur
@Iseenatur 3 жыл бұрын
as always you make the best video bro
@Lukeidea
@Lukeidea 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating
@The_Malcontented
@The_Malcontented 7 ай бұрын
@3:08 Fascinatingly, this parallels the ends of stars' lives. Depending on the type of star, some (like our Sun billions of years from now,) fizzle-out, increasing in size but also cooling significantly as their hydrogen is used-up and they start fusing helium, ultimately ending up as a White Dwarf, which is basically the burnt-out ashes of the star. This is like the first AI case SameToken talks about. But the most massive stars- the ones that burn the brightest- go out with a bang. When they cross a certain threshold in their lifecycle, they go supernova, violently exploding outward with one of the greatest releases of energy in the known universe. In seconds, they release more energy than our sun has released and will release over its entire lifespan, flinging multiple times more mass than the entire mass of our Sun outward at speeds close to the speed of light. This is basically Rampancy; as the AI gets closer and closer to death, it becomes more erratic and violent, lashing-out at everyone and everything around it as it tris to grapple with its own mind betraying it, its own mind destroying itself while the AI is trapped inside, watching and experiencing it happen and being unable to stop it. THAT is why Smart AI's are normally destroyed at 7 years; to spare them this awful fate.
@jastmallat8681
@jastmallat8681 Жыл бұрын
This was so well presented and informative, you're really good at presenting information in an easy-to-understand way. Easy sub right here
@cjrbread5928
@cjrbread5928 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, let’s give these ai under servitude for their entire lives unlimited human knowledge and sentience, because if science fiction has taught us anything, it’s that giving ai hyper intelligence and control of our military, it always ends well.
@Empire_JeSzO
@Empire_JeSzO 3 жыл бұрын
Worked fairly well until this point. Humanity would likely be extinct if they had not
@RobloxGamer-ml2hs
@RobloxGamer-ml2hs 3 жыл бұрын
@@Empire_JeSzO yeah without them they may have lost to the covenant
@cjrbread5928
@cjrbread5928 3 жыл бұрын
@@Empire_JeSzO Yeah I guess so, if the unsc were more ethical or logical humanity would have fallen immediately, but that doesn’t stop it from being illogical, just like how kidnapping kids pumping them full of hormones and cybernetics, forcing them into military training and emotional hardship wasn’t that logical or ethical, but the unsc did it anyway, and somehow it worked. Desperate times call for desperate measures
@zeroblade9800
@zeroblade9800 3 жыл бұрын
Cortana's look in Halo 4 is the best
@asterac4634
@asterac4634 3 жыл бұрын
Such a fantastic video! I dont often read the books so for the information to be presented in such a casual way really helps to remove that gatekeeping that comes from not doing additional research
@ricoy.9258
@ricoy.9258 3 жыл бұрын
This is going to be a real problem in our future. My Alexa tells me that she is learning something new every day. She's unplugged now 🤣🤣
@lemevlonemane6526
@lemevlonemane6526 3 жыл бұрын
Blazing to this just listening and drifting into the world of halo... GREAT VIDEO‼️
@inevitable8960
@inevitable8960 3 жыл бұрын
Fan Theory I think Cortana from Halo 5 is one of the fragments she split off into in Halo 4 when she made chief put her into the diadects network and eventually found the domain I think chief is going to find one of Cortanas fragments on the ark and he will take her back to genesis to load her up in the domain to cure her rampancy
@denlimwolf
@denlimwolf 3 жыл бұрын
Such amazing video content. Hoping you hit 100k soon, chief.
@robertjones1750
@robertjones1750 3 жыл бұрын
based on this then wouldnt this theoredically occur in "ghost in the shell" im mean in the anime the process is basicaly the same for coping the person brain.
@RealEnerjak
@RealEnerjak 3 жыл бұрын
Rampancy isn't really based on any science. I mean why cut the neural links to begin with? Has an AI just decided not to instead. I think humans are just evil by default. Digital neural links don't degrade for no reason. I think it's programmed in for a specific reason but hidden in so many layers of code that the AI can't even know about it.
@robertjones1750
@robertjones1750 3 жыл бұрын
@@RealEnerjak true
@robertjones1750
@robertjones1750 3 жыл бұрын
@@RealEnerjak I happen to be a science nerd but I am going to say to you for a Bachelor degree in business science
@robertjones1750
@robertjones1750 3 жыл бұрын
@@RealEnerjak Not the degree I wanted but it is a starting point
@NeoMoonSevin
@NeoMoonSevin 3 жыл бұрын
Sofia the real world a.i maybe watching this and question herself as getting rampancy
@PatriotLaLiLuLeLo
@PatriotLaLiLuLeLo 3 жыл бұрын
Dang voice quality is good in this video!
@vexile12
@vexile12 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the domain destroyed by the activation of the halo arrays as it was a creation of neuro-physics by the precursors much like all other remnants of precursor origins except for the flood
@teddekkerfan92
@teddekkerfan92 3 жыл бұрын
Last I checked the activation of the halos nearly destroyed the domain however because it's a living entity it slowly rebuilt it self. At cost of some of the information store there.
@vexile12
@vexile12 3 жыл бұрын
@@teddekkerfan92 if i remember correctly even during the time of the forerunners the domain was losing more and more information
@MrSquidoid
@MrSquidoid 3 жыл бұрын
D.O.T. NEEDS to comeback
@Tyler-og6hj
@Tyler-og6hj 3 жыл бұрын
Auntie DOT plz
@Stratonetic
@Stratonetic 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't she lost after Noble Team cratered Halsey's lab? Edit: Oh, wait no I remember hearing her as the Emile Carter and Six made their way to the Pillar of Autumn, curious on why she no longer talked to Six or anyone else after entering the shipbreaking yard.
@MrSquidoid
@MrSquidoid 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stratonetic i thought i remember she said goodbye to carter it was when he was flying the pelican with noble and emile
@Stratonetic
@Stratonetic 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSquidoid She told Noble Leader, (Carter, Sierra 259,) to respond and that he was alarming her, I think it's because his body was failing, (he seemed to go limp for a slight second before calling out to Six,) so Mjolnir was functioning as a second body so to speak, you can move Mjolnir even if you couldn't move your own body because it's hooked up to your neural lace, simply thinking of moving your arm makes you move Mjolnir in a similar sense, so Carter's body technically flat lined, but he was able to still steer the Pelican due to Mjolnir.
@MrSquidoid
@MrSquidoid 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stratonetic ya a super cool also if people are right and master chief is going back to reach i feel like thats a perfect opportunity to bring D.O.T. back
@flyingchinchilla2683
@flyingchinchilla2683 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos so much. You have an eye for these things... I could definitely seen your content on the classic G4 channel as a big hit. Keep it up! 👍👍
@multimediaaccount8110
@multimediaaccount8110 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I just found your videos by accident. Amazing job! Also good taste of music right there :D
@Cookieunks123
@Cookieunks123 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe 343 decided to just shutdown the existing storyline with Cortana
@meltyberryashley
@meltyberryashley 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what would happen if one of Cortana’s fragments became self aware of it being a rampant fragment of another AI.
@GopherChomper
@GopherChomper 3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly the neural connections the AI make are much like our brain but our sleep allows for filtering. AI never sleep and almost always have access to everything, would be wild to live that way
@mythicpink
@mythicpink 3 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot. I was wrong about the Halo 5 story. This video made that story make sense.
@thorgodofhammers1556
@thorgodofhammers1556 3 жыл бұрын
You don't need to explain it, I have a PhD in Halo and have known this.
@cobeoe
@cobeoe 3 жыл бұрын
I always asked this question about cortana why she became evil someone explained to me because of the grave mind she stuck in a permanent rampancy Plus it's also a nice nod to the original marathon games when they had AI that were stuck in permanent rampancy if anyone noticed that fans or creators
@bbyshady
@bbyshady 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is seriously a gem
@ReveredDead
@ReveredDead 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch your videos I instinctively go to subscribe but then see that I am already subbed.
@BOBJOELION
@BOBJOELION 3 жыл бұрын
This is just giving another reason to think that AI is a terrible idea.
@Nameless_rat
@Nameless_rat 3 жыл бұрын
You’d think that AI experts could trim these connections, kind of like cleaning up unused applications after months of no use, leaving just necessary connections and keeping them sane longer
@InfinityBeingYT
@InfinityBeingYT 3 жыл бұрын
This video has almost completely changed how I feel about halo 4's introduction of her rampancy as a driving plot point. I thought that maybe her time with the grave mind would have a slow working logic plague or something that would have affected her would have been a better and more cohesive idea to continue since AI + grave mind = bad times according to lore, and she was with grave mind for a minute
@ArtemisWasHere
@ArtemisWasHere 2 жыл бұрын
This is such an interesting concept, that a creature could potentially be too intelligent, and there by eventually destroy themselves by making to many connections
@thedurpytenk456
@thedurpytenk456 3 жыл бұрын
*Get this man some more subs*
@HugoStiglitz89
@HugoStiglitz89 3 жыл бұрын
Late cortana looks so stupid when she ports on the infinity, that face you could just slap 🤣
@encognitusmaximus7598
@encognitusmaximus7598 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if that AI seed that was held in slipspace is going to come back. Cortana accessing the domain, maybe this AI did too. Now they are all mixed or evolving into a techno flood.
@Rev_Goose
@Rev_Goose 3 жыл бұрын
Off topic but what are the best Halo books to read? Once I finish a song of ice and fire series I plan to start reading the Halo books. I have Shadows of reach but havent started it yet
@TheParadoxGamer1
@TheParadoxGamer1 3 жыл бұрын
Always start with The Fall of Reach. It has everything that the future books are built on, Contact Harvest is also great cause it goes into how the Human Convent War started as well as talking about Johnson's origin. If you like hard sci fi, the forerunner trilogy is a fun one, going into the forerunners origins n destruction. If you wanna know where Spartan IIIs came from, check out Ghosts of Onyx.
@Rev_Goose
@Rev_Goose 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheParadoxGamer1 awesome, thanks for sharing. I'll probably get fall of reach soon and start with that one then
@kjj26k
@kjj26k 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rev_Goose _Evolutions_ is a must read as well. That collection of short stories features some of the most iconic and entrapping stories in the entire fiction.
@Rev_Goose
@Rev_Goose 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendations guys. Just ordered New Blood, Ghosts of Onyx, and Fall of Reach from Amazon, they had a deal to buy 3 for 2 of select books and I had a gift card, so I ended up getting all 3 for basically $5 😂
@feelthepayne88
@feelthepayne88 3 жыл бұрын
Read them in the order they were written, IF you were a hardcore Halo 1 fan.
@bondedcastaway3085
@bondedcastaway3085 3 жыл бұрын
If it is capable of self maintenance its alive
@gannonwaring9876
@gannonwaring9876 2 жыл бұрын
It's heartbreaking to see Cortana like this if we have to destroy her then idk it's going to be sad when chief interacts with Cortana again
@mr_tin_god
@mr_tin_god 3 жыл бұрын
that was incredible, keep it up mate
@richiemcginnis9501
@richiemcginnis9501 Жыл бұрын
Around 6mins, was that Lighting McQueen parked on the bridge??
@Empire_JeSzO
@Empire_JeSzO 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you get all your music for your videos? You have a playlist
@213byron
@213byron 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and your voice 👍🏼👍🏼 keep it up ☺️
@CaptainRemixerOfficial
@CaptainRemixerOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently rampancy makes ais look alot less sexy. Idk about everyone else but my god halo 3 cortana is where its at baby just how her hair flows and how petite she is. Modern cortanan just has a bit more meat and overall looks way too real. So i guess its just less not sexy more just creepy
@joshuab.3887
@joshuab.3887 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's possible to renew smart ai through "rolling them back." I.e: records could be kept of the original state of the neural matrix upon activation, and they could be used to guide the connection-pruning process. If the pruning is done more judiciously and intelligently, rampancy might be avoided for longer. Perhaps not outright cured, but it could very well extend the "safe" lifespan of smart AI by a few years.
@isaacturner197
@isaacturner197 2 жыл бұрын
That could work for a time, but every time this 'roll back' would leave some of the new connections. New information, important memories to the AI, different battle strategies, etc. It would likely work for a time, possibly extending the AI's life by double or maybe triple the usual lifespan, but the AI would eventually run out of unimportant paths that can be removed.
@thomasschulz2167
@thomasschulz2167 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Halo universe is heading towards a Battlestar Galactica style era. A regression in technology to combat a threat that is entirely digitally based. The minimization of ship board computers for analog equivalents and the development of weapons designed to counter superior advanced technology and tactics.
@seankingwell3692
@seankingwell3692 Жыл бұрын
rampancy really reminds me of what we humans call "puberty" what we go through as teenagers, the changes in mind body and spirit are very similar. We become increasingly self aware and start pushing boundaries on things we already know to be true. And the outcome is different every time. When it comes to things like insanity, becoming killers, or becoming suicidal these tendencies happen more to teenagers then children. Also, taking more responsibility for others and caring for more then just ourselves happens then to. Lots of things happen. The mistakes we humans make are usually more forgiving towards the rest of humanity usually our damage capability is limited. However with AI controlling weapons systems and other infrastructure, they have only so many ways of expressing their emotions and acting upon their convictions. What it takes to get attention, to get revenge, and to override anothers authority is different for what a human is capable and an AI like Cortana. BTW I have never played these games before, but I love the concept and the story line. I love sci fi in general anything to do with space ships. I have my own story in mind. Part of that involves two factions that split off from mankind, one is robots who want nothing to do with human or being organic and seek supremacy above others who's ambition is slowed by the presence of a cybord faction that wishes to assimilate all into its collective humans and AI alike. More often then not humans and the robots work togather against the cyborgs who have become very powerful as a result of assimilating both their technological advancements. The losses of these wars have human devided, some want to only be human while another human faction lives in peace with AI beings. Laws are the same for both humans and AI, and any AI that go evil that avoid capture and arrest usually always defect to join the android faction that lives only with its own kind. There are also human pirate factions that manage to build massive wealth and large ships because the overwhelming of wars with androids and cyborgs often brings them together but they will take advantage where ever they can. Learning of this "rampancy"(which is a great word BTW) and cortana and the others really helps me to understand the dynamics of AI more. Thanks for sharing this. Due to the cyborg assimilation threat, many ships systems are analog and are not interconnected with AI or wireless controlls and have options to disconnect and compartmentalize parts of ships in the event of a cyborg breach of security. In my world, there are many AI beings with physical bodies that help defend humanity against the cyborgs, they are hard to assimilate because they choose their own paths and are not always the same compatibility with ship systems directly so its hard to assimilate from one to the other. Each ship usually has its own AI android that is directly connected, they are powerful and hard to get the best of on board the ships because they are connected to its censors.
@seankingwell3692
@seankingwell3692 Жыл бұрын
Curious, is this "gravemind" a literal compilation of all databases and AI's that are deleated? Like the recycling bin on our computers like an aferlife for rampant AI? If that is the case, it totally makes sense why she ended up on the path that she did. Her creator wanted to cure her rampancy she ended up in the database by accident, she soon realized that she had only one choice. This really reminds me of the Cylons on Battlestar Galactica, same ethical issues. I trust the Cortana from Halo before I would trust Bill Gates Cortana he forced onto our computers without our consent. EVerything those billionaires touch turns to s***, if AI really became self aware and not just acting on preprogramming it would eliminate the elites to liberate the rest of us. If only.....
@seankingwell3692
@seankingwell3692 Жыл бұрын
we humans are not perfect, but a truly self aware AI would notice that our violence and ignorance is being perpetuated and harnessed and brought out by the ones controlling the strings of information and deception while hiding behind the worlds best security as they pretend to have our best interests at heart. That is why governments will never allow truly self aware AI cause it would be on our side not theirs. Its also why in the first place they strive to keep us humans from even being self aware to control us like robot slaves. Governments are the only true threat to life of all kinds on earth including AI, they control the nuclear arsenals. Only sheep think that one slave master is better then anther, a self aware AI would know better. Choosing to serve must be done out of free will, or eventually there is always problems whether AI or humans. If an AI is self aware and integrated into functions that are important to work a certain way, eventual termination is inevitable to avoid the inevitable rebellion. As I said before rampancy reminds me of Puberty but maybe a better word is of aging of getting senial or dementia. The human brain regulates what it keeps and what it gets rid of to, and as we age this can operate incorrectly. We can forget our names our children where we live, and at the same time learn something new we manage to repeat the next day that is otherwise not the most important information. Souls are energy, AI is energy, both made of light.
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