Wrestling & Boxing or BJJ & Muay Thai?

[@fabooshka]

Jiu jitsu skills and Wrestling skills are mandatory But Dewey's shirt is absolutely not

[@jolonghthong]

😂

[@michaelss1294]

Fabrobin , agree. Lol

[@atlasfishmo]

Lmaoooooo this is the best comment I've seen

[@Durin_Son]

Hes actually wearing a camo t-shirt

[@heretyk_1337]

So is the hair on the head...

[@DeathGrind_SlamGod]

Nate diaz said it best "You jiujitsu guys needah learn how to box" .. lol

[@DragonSlayer-tg5mk]

Nate needs to do a little Muay Thai too as we have all seen his leg get destroyed due to his boxing stance.

[@user-qt8qk6qb4u]

@@DragonSlayer-tg5mk I bet you hes trained that in his time off

[@DragonSlayer-tg5mk]

Don't be so sensitive Espada kurosaki! I like Nate and always root for him against Conor. I just don't want to see him lose again to leg kicks as it's quite painful to watch. And it's Dickhead, not dickhed.

[@DragonSlayer-tg5mk]

I'll give ya that one Pusfase. He definitely needs to be more active. I think with all the money he made from the Conor fights he doesn't have as much financial motivation to fight more often.

[@Dubbsteppa21]

@Espada kurosaki hes probably to busy getting stoned as fuck hahaha

[@jimmyalderson1639]

'World class performances are just the fundamentals executed to their full potential'

[@wrestler-kickboxer2524]

jimmy alderson underrated saying.

[@pauldigga5419]

Absolutely

[@TR-ru7wl]

This seems to apply to a ton of different things. I'm a drummer. Most professional drummers play simple stuff. They just play it really well.

[@jammatati3844]

The Raff i always say "i dont care if im a good drummer i just want it to sound good"

[@TR-ru7wl]

@@jammatati3844 excellent way of putting it

[@Atomrofl42]

Aikido and nothing else because it’s just the best martial art. You can take out multiple opponents who are bigger than you at once, even without touching them. Praise the lord Steven Segal and the world is flat!

[@farhadsafari7943]

Lol

[@fabooshka]

Hahahahahahha

[@fbi4072]

Atomrofl42 oh lol I thought you were serious for a sec

[@MrJohneblaze822]

Stop lying LMAO

[@Sabrowsky]

quality shitpost right there

[@artiemx]

it took ramsey 8 minutes to explain a phrase that's very common in gaming: "the meta of the game changed"

[@RamseyDewey]

I have not heard that phrase before. How long did it take you to learn what it meant?

[@artiemx]

it means that somebody found a new way to play the game that is clearly superior to the previous way of playing the game and it's not a variation or an iteration of the previous way of playing the game, but you have to see it happening with pros or be proficient in the game and suddenly be beaten by people with this new method to get it

[@PolarBearon]

Ramsey Dewey, you catch on quick In gaming, regarding what that phrase means. The "meta game" is the game around or above the game. The overarching "rules" or trends, which affects the way the game is played optimally. It happens in gaming fairly often, a meta change. Someone discovers or develops a tool or technique that drastically affects how everyone must play the game, if they want to win. In the beginning of this upsetting Meta change, people who know the new way might have great success, and others might rush to emulate them. But, as time passes people catch on to this new way of playing, the new strategy, and they develop defenses or even counters to it. And after a little while of upheaval the game will stabilize into a new meta, a new norm, with the new tools intigrated.

[@rubber2407]

"Meta" also stands for "Most Effective Tactic Available". So yeah, the META always changes as soon as someone comes up with something that can beat the current META (with a delay, of course).

[@arthol51]

Ramsey Dewey Touche !

[@stain6160]

"what is the advanced stuff? it is fundamentals done really well" damn that's great

[@mpg3946]

All styles have limitations. If everyone in MMA becomes Muay Thai/BJJ hybrids, then someone will watch and develop a style that will exploit those weaknesses. it is Mixed Martial Arts. And most modern martial arts offer something to the MMA fighter. As Bruce Lee said: "Be like water. Without form..:.

[@MrPatspp]

"Formless, shapeless, like water..."

[@goldanimal3931]

Be vodka my frien

[@Vlad_Tepes_III]

@@goldanimal3931 Nay, Scotch.

[@johnfingkennedy1091]

My new style will beat them all. I call it American Martial Arts. It is an art that can be used close up or at a range. The way it works is you just shoot them.

[@prince_sach50]

@@johnfingkennedy1091lol unless he's a trained marine or navy seal

[@ortilio]

ZUMBA.

[@RamseyDewey]

One of my fighters is actually a Zumba instructor on the side. This made my day.

[@ortilio]

you should make a zumba vs mma video just to make things clear :) no offense - zumba is a great thing !

[@marzmarch]

#gastank

[@SebastianTrii]

Zumba all day

[@PaschanTOPs]

LOOOOOL!!

[@aiyahuntacheimumbi236]

Ramsey always sounds like Agent Smith telling Morpheus that he wants to escape the Matrix lol

[@givetheymeantake]

You think thats air your breathing??

[@MrArtisticjay]

it can not be unheard

[@Fightyfatty]

Yes

[@ColtsNation317]

😂 😂 God I can't stop hearing it now

[@mannyclav]

😂😂😂

[@ellisv75]

One add for wrestling + boxing is the synergy between the two. They both perform at the same range, boxing helps to disguise shots or freeze some one when you level change and the body mechanics of a wrestling shot and a over hand right are nearly indistinguishable while the proper defenses are nearly opposite. The shot Khabib landed on Conor is one of the most clean examples, you can even see Conor begin to move his legs back to begin a sprawl leaving him exposed and unable to avoid a lead power shot, without the wrestling threat that should never really land.

[@Sam-rb1id]

Total agreement. I started out in muay thai and it never felt great trying to blend in wrestling because - standing high with weight on back foot. In boxing you can crouch a little forward and change levels for both strikes and shots and it also makes it easier to defend/sprawl. I way prefer boxing for mma now with wrestling and some counters for kicks. Obv this is just preference but I feel like it you want to do muay thai in mma you better be comfortable on your back!

[@agookchild]

Thank you for putting into words my thoughts. Boxing + wrestling is like peanut butter and jelly. Muay Thai and Bjj is like burger and fries. They’re both good combos but some just sticks together better.

[@zohebalikhan7404]

It's because both come from the western tradition of fighting. The ancient Olympics included boxing, wrestling, and Pankration ("All-powers"). A modern rendition of Pankration would look something like: Boxing + Greco-Roman Wrestling + Freestyle wrestling + Catch wrestling. Boxing + other strike for striking; Greco-Roman Wrestling for upper-body clinch control; Freestyle wrestling for lower body attacks; Catch wrestling for ground work, submissions, and hooks (joint breaks). All of the above constitute a coherent framework for close quarters combat.

[@archsys307]

@@zohebalikhan7404What would a 2 year training plan to get to the point you’d feel fairly confident in a street fight look like? That’s a lot of disciplines

[@zohebalikhan7404]

@@archsys307 Firstly, they look like alot of disciplines on the surface, but the point I was alluding to was that they match together into a coherent (logical) framework (template) which would make it easier for the mind to comprehend and practice. This leads me to my second point: the time for mastery of these arts would depend on the trainee and his/her dedication to mastery, however, the logical flow of the disciplines make mastery alot easier.

[@KraljCorvin]

I used a mix of boxing and wrestling when I worked as a bouncer. It worked quite well. But it helps to learn certain things like low kicks or teep.

[@gonchi2610]

this is what Im saying, boxing and wrestling with low kicks and teeps is the most deadly combination

[@richievro]

@@gonchi2610 literally just muy Thai and wrestling

[@clancywoodbine5343]

Really? Hopefully just the footwork and evasion from boxing...striking in that job outside of dire circumstances can get you in all kinds of legal and financial trouble. At least these days...back in the 80s it was a different ballgame I'm told

[@AtlanticDNA]

@@richievro do Muay Thai once a week and BJJ once a week and you are a total beast that wins 95 % of confrontations

[@randallmcgrath9345]

Then add Hapkido or Muay Thai.

[@HELLICRINATIOn]

Just stumbled across this guy, watched a few videos. I like what he is saying, but mostly, he just seems like a good dude to get a beer with.

[@dfpguitar]

He is a pious man so I get the feeling he does not drink.

[@royaltoadclub8322]

dfpguitar He is a Mormon and a serious athlete. Two reasons why he doesn’t drink.

[@andydelgado7570]

@@royaltoadclub8322 Yea we don't drink, happy to come with friends who do tho! be the driver, make sure they dont kill each other, also laughing at everything with them is always a blast

[@Jagunco]

Even better cos I don't think he drinks... cheap rounds and he can drive you home

[@BenjaminGessel]

Root beer. Or milk. 😁

[@connorjaneu3021]

I had 7 years of solid karate technique and 3-4 of actual sparring and combat experience. I thought I was invincible. Then I was introduced to Historical European/Western Martial Arts and I saw just how varied a fighter needs to be to truly be effective. Ringen was was developed, like Jiujitsu, to kill people. Thus, it had so many different and varied techniques. Then I saw the guys doing BJJ, Muay Thai and it really opened my eyes. Variety is the spice of life, as they say. It’s also the best way to defeat an opponent.

[@piotrd.4850]

It all applies assuming "7 years of solid karate techique". Without single solid base.... one becomes 'man of ten thousand kicks'.

[@Waitingnomad]

Ringen was a sport too! Not just a combat grappling art. Just like folk wrestling styles all over the world, it was widely popular and practiced as a de-facto 'national' sport, both recreationally and competitively. God bless you though for being one of the smaller parts of the HEMA community that practices applied grappling with their fencing. It's something that gets lost in a lot of schools in favour of olympic style point fencing. As Lichtenhaueur and the Ott Judd say - wrestling (i.e. grappling) is the base of all fencing!

[@bobsmitty2119]

Boxing and wrestling compliment each other very well. The transition is easy, and they don't interfere with each other from my experience. In a street altercation if everything goes to the fan, the physicality, and practicality of boxing/wrestling will be very useful.

[@gsimon123]

The crazy spinning back kicks and twister submissions are the exceptions to the rules. A solid 1-2 ends TONS of fights and the classic RNC ends TONS of fights. Fundamentals win the vast majority of fights; the really crazy shit is rare for a reason.

[@bigmember5908]

believe it or not I have an easier time setting up a Twister then I do a RNC heh. neither are go-to for me tho

[@smradztoiek]

But I want to see that Boyka shit, man ;)

[@somewheredec]

Proper old school Vale Tudo Bjj, is takedown, mount, strike until opponent gives up their back, RNC or Armbar

[@bigmember5908]

in the old school much of the time you may have been fighting someone with very little grappling skill making things easier.

[@Seantorky3]

Fantastic comment sir. You know your stuff.

[@catchhands5537]

Wrestle first. You will get in great shape, get really strong and tough, and be really flexible and dynamic. Wrestling is basic, effective, and learning to use great leverage. Then learn to box. You will get good footwork, hand-eye coordination, accuracy, but most importantly the eyes. If you get good enough to see combinations coming and read hands flying everything is will seem slow. Plus you will increase your range and angles of attack when closing in to wrestle. Next start on muay thai. This will further increase your range, make you even more dynamic, and build your legs. With these tools you will can bridge from legs, to hands, to grapples. Plus you will learn to clinch wrestle with elbows, knees, sweeps, and takedowns. If course you will have already experienced some of this rant when boxing. You will also gain new levels of balance and timing while working with kicks. Finally learn both Japanese and Brazilian jujitsu. Or just learn judo where you will get a healthy mix of throws, locks, and floor techniques. I agree with Mr. Dewey in that you do not have to master them all but it would be wise to master one. Pick one to be your core. Then you will be able to tac the other skills onto that core. EXAMPLE: If you like boxing and you box well, you may learn to wrestle well enough to stay on your feet, learn enough bjj or judo to protect yourself get up and get away should you be taken down, and kick to increase your range to both lead up into your hands and still have the ability to strike your opponent as they try to get out of range of your hands.

[@emmanuela7528]

This is it. Wrestling/boxing/Muay Thai/judo will bring you as close to being complete as you can get. The strength, the hands, the legs, the throws/holds.

[@luisalamedaluna4067]

I am actually a former boxer learning to wrestle right now c:

[@lildragon6415]

That's good advice. You need to become a Jack of all trades, master of ONE!

[@Solefear]

Superb advice.

[@marzmarch]

Yet you can find idiotic “mma” guys saying Kudo sucks for that very reason. You know, the second mma style after vale tudo, which isn’t an art.

[@119winters5]

@Tai Lopez Jack of all trades*

[@CriticallyGnart]

@Tai Lopez decent at all, but really proficient in one thing. That's what it means

[@leetaiming64]

@@CriticallyGnart or is "Jack of all trades, master of none." better

[@freddierio131]

this guy is a philosopher. He said position is the most important. Get into Position then attack...that applies to everything in life

[@Stormcloakvictory]

Or as scouts call it, final firing position.

[@ogrbell8297]

Its from the art of war. Give it a read

[@dylanclaeys6084]

Regarding Advanced BJJ by Marcelo Garcia... You reminded me about a lesson I learned as a child playing billiards. It's stuck with me for decades. Even though I don't shoot pool anymore, it applies to many things in life. It was explained to me that the best billiards players aren't the guys who made the fancy bank shots , combos, and crazy trick shots. The best and most amazing players were the guys who made it so that each of their next shots was a simple one.

[@flynn8845]

Dang, that's a good one lol.

[@gdornelas77]

The first Mixed Martial arts was Marco Ruas UFC 7 Champ. He is the father of MMA, he came from the Vale Tudo days in Brazil. Since a teenager much before UFC was born he wanted to be a well rounded fighter. His philosophy was “If you wanna grapple I’m gonna punch and kick and If you wanna strike I’m gonna grapple”. This man deserves credit for the sport that we all love and more fans should know about him!

[@uafc1]

Yeah, "vale tudo" literally means "everything allowed" in portuguese

[@ifyouseekay1000]

I've met him personally. He can still kick your ass ( mine as well)

[@jking1343]

I think that wrestling is the best secondary skill for anyone to learn since it controls the transitions. Striker? wrestling will teach you to stuff take downs and how to stand up. Grappler? Wrestling will teach you to take someone down and keep them there.

[@TheChocolateChamp]

True wrestling is king.

[@thelochnessmonster.350]

Agreed. I just wish it was possible to get wrestling experience outside of high school and college.

[@Leafy1-j1l]

It still is. Find out who coaches wrestling at your local university and ask if they'll train you, or know somebody who can. There's no such thing as a college wrestling coach that has enough money.

[@nicocontreras5366]

Wrestling is the best base.

[@jb8086]

Generally I do agree, having a good wrestling foundation myself. What he says here is very true however. I roll with friends that are BJJ practitioners and even though my wrestling is far better than theirs my lack of knowledge in BJJ has many times caused me to find myself in an arm bar or what have you. Expanding my knowledge of BJJ is crucial if for no other reason the defense against it.

[@Joelvel]

Boxing and Wrestling is my cup of tea. Of course i would wanna mix Muay Thai and BJJ into my arsenal as well. Probably in the near future, for self defense of course.

[@frankthetank8216]

Joshua Kelly is this really josh kelly?

[@king-r6712]

Joshua Kelly yo josh, keep up the good work. U got skills bro ☝️🏾🥊

[@scaryskillz54]

I realize that the question is probably assuming pure bjj but really most if not all bjj schools teach wrestling. I can't imagine doing them separately. Everyone doing bjj should focus on wrestling at least one day a week.

[@DanishnSonic]

Big fan!

[@TheRedRuin]

Scary Skillz, teach takedowns for an everyday context, anything high level it's not good enough you need a dedicated coach for each: striking, grappling and bjj.

[@silverpaws7989]

im in Brazilian jiu jitsu and muay thai

[@RamseyDewey]

That's awesome! Keep it up

[@kipallen8793]

Silver Paws Smart man

[@joshuagregoire9504]

At the same time? Because I want to know if you can do both at the same time

[@gaberod46]

Joshua Gregoire you probably can, they dont really conflict. Its not like taking boxing and muay thai. Ones grappling the others striking

[@joshuagregoire9504]

TeenageMutantNinjaNigga have you trained in both?

[@BD90..]

A striking art and a ground fighting art that is suited to you.

[@JPduprat]

Hmmmmmmmm

[@gorkyd7912]

Going to be the first MMA champion using Savate and Aikido.

[@filipe_paixao]

@@gorkyd7912 ahahahahaahahahahabab.

[@ABCDEF-uz9fd]

@@gorkyd7912 ewwww

[@firerescue3664]

Look into BJ Penn in his prime. Started with boxing and then learned bjj. World class fighter. Very hard to take down and had great hands.

[@emmanuela7528]

13:07 the best example of this might be Leon Edwards, a pure kickboxer who beat a wrestler twice. He knows how to defend takedowns, and how to get back up. In his second fight with Usman, you could see Usman get demoralised every time Edwards got back up after getting taken down, knowing he’ll have to do it all over again.

[@anon2034]

12:16 "Fundamentals win fights. Basics win fights." A golden quote!

[@W67w]

Fedor said Boxing and Wrestling are best for beginners. Also more than half of the UFC champions are wrestlers. Wrestling is the best base then everything comes after. A wrestler controls where the fight takes place.

[@Slickmickyoyo97]

Yeah, I can honestly say I have never seen a high school or college wrestler lose a street fight. Considering most street fighters are haymaker throwing putzes with no training in any discipline, it makes perfect sense.

[@KWillo]

@@Slickmickyoyo97 as a former high school/college wrestler, I can confirm that from experience.

[@Epotheros]

@@Slickmickyoyo97 Those are some pretty polite street fighters to not use bats or superior numbers.

[@mohamedtarek-xz5op]

and also judo

[@hatimelouaqour610]

Greenfield121 not if u can’t land that take down

[@spectacularlyunqualified2391]

My man did 7 years of Taekwondo and still worried about self defense

[@davidcdun8896]

I see most people are comparing style vs style, excluding different styles. MMA means including all styles, or more exactly take techniques from whatever style that works for each person. After all, we are all individuals. Don't let style boundries lock down the mind.

[@musicgaines7170]

Go back to ur akaido/Tai chi gym lol

[@gravy1770]

When I was learning and practicing Muay Thai my Ajan was cool with me mixing in TKD and Capoiera kicks. I had no tkd or capoiera experience save for a tricking club I had a brief stint with but since I could use it in shadowboxing and sparring, it was just like learning new muay thai techniques. It helped me learn faster because I could break down the fundamental differences between all three. Learning them at the same time was like learning a new composite style. That's what MMA should be, instead of limiting it to your personal combination of 2 or even 4 bases. It should be learned as one art with Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling and BJJ elements combined. Techniques from TKD, Judo, Capoiera, Karate, Sanda and so on should be added in efficiently. It would be a style for lifelong learning with plenty of room for advancement.

[@scottnorton4256]

That seems to be the way it's done now, that's why it's so fun to watch a specialist run through a "complete fighter", Olivera comes to mind right off Maia too and the Russian dude not Drago the other one.

[@gravy1770]

@@scottnorton4256 well it raises the question again: is it impossible to be a generalist at the highest level of at least one component discipline? Not quite, imo. Should take roughly the same amount of time to specialize, because the beginner stages can accomodate multiple styles. As you get more advanced you could have a bias towards what complements your strengths. As long as you're still developing other styles you are a generalist. Holistic MMA is young, and so there's a much smaller distribution of high level generalists. But you'll see many have success against a variety of opponents (DJ especially) But also the whole point of the generalist approach imo is that it should be foundational. You would definitely need specialist training down the line to get to the highest level of each component, at least until the level of generalists catches up. But consider Maia though, and Ryan Hall... They actually make a great case for specialists needing a general skillset, because they tend to rely too much on their base style and when what they do doesn't work, they get stuck, and they get lit up. Oliveira had that same issue till his general skillset rose to the level it is at now. But consider how long it took to round his game and become the problem he is now even as a specialist. Would have been less grueling and more focused but took much more time and damage sustained to reach this point. I'm more inclined to believe he'd have gotten to this level faster and with less damage if he was general first then specializing in BJJ. I reckon that's the same rationale for primary->secondary->tertiary education.

[@andrewferris4539]

In the age of MMA, fighters shouldn't study styles but techniques and compose a style of their own from those techniques they've learned. While Boxing and Wrestling or Muay Thai and BJJ could form a solid base, the Boxer/Wrester would be vulnerable to kicks, the clinch and have a worse bottom game and the Nak Muay/BJJ would be vulnerable to punches, the double/single leg and have a worse top game. Very few arts, or even a combination of two arts have everything you will need to compete in MMA because those arts were conceived of as sports within another rules set.

[@ancientdarkness3102]

Not necessarily vulnerable to punches tho

[@gonchi2610]

@@ancientdarkness3102 against the punches of a boxer, yes

[@ancientdarkness3102]

@@gonchi2610 there are pretty good boxers in muay thai so as I said, non necessarily

[@Youreanahole]

@@ancientdarkness3102 Do you mean that by good footwork, head movement, punches? Because that's just both boxing and muay thai at that point, thaist have shit stance.

[@ancientdarkness3102]

@@Youreanahole thai stance is more versatile than you think, there have been and there are still great punchers in muay thai from thailand, I could make you a list. (Buakaw just won a match in bare knuckle boxing by the way) and even those who don't know how to punch that well have many ways to counter pure boxers, with the clinch kicks elbows and teeps

[@jg3000]

If they went back to bare knuckle. There'd be more grappling.

[@jg3000]

Brian O'Kongkohr In the cage it always went to the ground cause peoples heads are hard. Very hard on the fist if you have a tough guy. Which is why Bas Rutten's open palm strike from pancrase is so awesome.

[@rye-bread5236]

You know bareknuckle boxing is making a come back. 1st sanctioned match in 100 years happened not too long ago

[@edparker956]

@@rye-bread5236 yeah it was just boxing; maybe it will open the door for the old UFC

[@barrygroeneveld6901]

Gloves were originally introduced to protect the hands of the fighters, not their heads.

[@chaumetlouis19]

True, the hands were made to grab.

[@FN-bq2si]

I'ma boxer who's going to add wrestling to my regiment soon. I'm thinking about doing muay thai and bjj in the future

[@willspeakman2461]

How did it go?

[@vitaliybalin8301]

You know Mr. Dewey, on an amateur level, I love singing, dancing, boxing, MMA, and have thought about narrating audio books. It is like we have the same interests. In addition to that, I like Political Science and Science Fiction television. That is what I like about MMA instructors. You guys are well-rounded not in just your martial arts skills, but in life in general.

[@TheChocolateChamp]

When you run down a legit list of all the champs in the UFC it's boxing and wrestling that dominates period. Good boxing and wrestling pretty much is unbeatable

[@sn3aky_pants593]

Anderson Silva, Shogun, Machida, BJ Penn, etc. etc. Plenty of BJJ and non-boxing champs.

[@kallepikku4991]

Brian, all those guys cracked for PEDs as soon as USADA came to scenes.

[@TheDeshi100]

Just want to thank you for a very good explanation

[@cesarboanerges]

I'm glad i found your channel. I appreciate your honesty. 20 minutes well spent.

[@stantheheadhumongous9402]

That's what I believe in: in MMA, especially if you are not competing at the top 0.01%, you don't need to be great at everything, but you cannot be bad at anything, and you need to be able to defend yourself at most situations. It's like if a boxer knows great defense against kicks he can use his hands to win over a kick boxer. And in MMA if you are a great striker, and have good takedown defense, you still have a great chance of fighting a grappler/more complete fighter.

[@seanreed9472]

Trained in all 4 more in wrestling and boxing, but hard to go wrong w/ MT and BJJ. I actually trained BJJ for 4 years, got a blue from Renzo many years go. You can concentrate on 2 for a few years, then do the other two. My advice is to go with what is the best training you have access to, and want to do.

[@rockmcdwayne1710]

I think Muay Thai must be top fighting style to learn for self defence purposes. If you are willing to go through with the brutal training process, but after some years you would be hard as nails and in self defence situation in some street fight you wouldnt worry about taking some hits.

[@wyatt4790]

Anonymus Alcoholic I think any martial art that involves the use of all body parts is good for any type of fighting my friend:). Coming from a Karateka and a Muay Thai practitioner, my head kicks are my go to and they work in street fights, one just has to train them efficiently!

[@BenWilson24]

I trained in Krav Maga group that was a lot of private military, etc and that was pretty brutal at times haha. Our head instructor had a background in Muay Thai and we did a lot of Muay Thai striking techniques and stuff, but when I moved away, I decided to join a Muay Thai gym and it definitely wasn’t as intense as my Krav Maga classes, but still good stuff

[@pcprinciple3774]

Problem is that your body is fucked by your late 20's.

[@Jake-pm3pz]

@@pcprinciple3774 ye but everyones bodies are fucked when they get older anyway so its better to train muay thai get in shape and fight in tournements and have fun and good memories and be tough instead of being someone that doesnt train.

[@ancientdarkness3102]

@@pcprinciple3774 yeah right, go check old Thai fighters and tell me again

[@-RJ-hw6qq]

In Brazil we like the combination of BJJ and Muay Thai. It's really effective! :)

[@lovepolice2152]

You have a young face and an old body. Also, you seem to be a pretty nice guy. I like you, young grandpa!:)))

[@MoonLight-qw8sz]

@Tournel Henry he said he has a young face?

[@TheRubypokespe]

I really love Boxing's footwork, such a shame we leave our lead leg exposed :\

[@yggtheterribleone8077]

TheBoredJuan I love the Muay Thai footwork it's like a steady march forward that is so hard to interrupt.

[@JourneyToTheCage]

Ygg's Bonsai I practice BJJ and Wrestling and also Kickboxing, which where I'm taught is based on Muay Thai, but combines boxing and Dutch style kickboxing and kyokushin karate, so there is a mix of MT and boxing footwork

[@wendigodeadpatterson2514]

You can modify the boxing stance. Look at Dutch Kickboxing.

[@princenaseem6123]

The boxing footwork wont help in the streets lol

[@wendigodeadpatterson2514]

@@princenaseem6123 Yes it will, definitely. Footwork can be anything that allows you to move properly for defense or offense. Have you ever seen a street fight where to guys didn't know what they were doing and the stood imbalanced and threw haymakers while lifting their foot of the ground to do it. Boxer could sidestep and pop you in the face. They have good judge of distance and move in and out or out and in. With footwork you can evade shots and be aggressive safely.

[@keyow2]

I’ve recently become a Taekwondo Instructor, and I agree with this entirely. Taekwondo is great against untrained assailants, or people who’ve done only boxing and have no leg game. But if you take Taekwondo into a cage with a well-rounded opponent you either need absolute perfect timing with your kicks or to couple it with something that has a better strike game and a grappling art sprinkled in. I’ve recently come across these videos, and have been taking in some insight that I plan on bringing with me to our classes. I especially appreciate the focus on positioning. I tell the students in the academy I train at that if they want to be as prepared as possible, they should build their combat foundation of positioning and kicks with Taekwondo, and once they become comfortable with it expand their knowledge with Boxing and BJJ. Something I myself definitely need to be doing more of.

[@hornetc5585]

If you claim to be a taekwondo instructor but don't know how to punch, remind me to never sign up for your bogus classes. Real taekwondoists should now how to punch. I first learned my boxing from my TKD school. We did it it all, even speed bagging.

[@keyow2]

Hornet C Never said I don’t know how to punch, so I’m not sure what your issue is.

[@hornetc5585]

@@keyow2 Your students shouldn't have to build a foundation in TKD before learning boxing. You should be teaching them boxing alongside their TKD. Punches are part TKD but are just not often in sport. Any TKD teacher who does not spend at least 20% of the class on punches should be looked at suspiciously.

[@randallmcgrath9345]

This is why Koreans invented Hapkido. It blows my mind how many TKD schools have only TKD. The BEST ones also have Hapkido and maybe even Gumbdo(weapons so not for mma but still). Hapkido has ground fighting, elbow and knee strikes, and boxing aspects such as uppercuts, crosses, and hooks and such.

[@keyow2]

@@randallmcgrath9345 I introduced the fundamentals of boxing into the academy I’m an instructor at. The Chief Instructor likewise has introduced the fundamentals of BJJ into the academy. But at the end of the day, we teach for a park district and there are regulations. It’s supposed to be a Taekwondo class - not an MMA class. So anything we add in is under the pretext of being Taekwondo. The manager doesn’t really know the difference. Our grappling segments aren’t “rolling,” it’s “advanced takedown sparring.” 🤫 Our boxing segments aren’t “boxing,” it’s just “high intensity self defense.” 🤫

[@ottovonbismarck7646]

Any boxer who's worth a damn should know one thing: be light on your feet! If your opponent is using kicks, is substantially taller that you, or is trying to grapple, stay out of their reach by moving around, step around their strikes, slip, etc. Only move in when you can close and unleash a hailfire of proper strikes.

[@mrdune5479]

This guy's so intense, yet informative for sure

[@filipe_paixao]

Muay thai and muay thai And *MUAY THAI AND MUAY THAI*

[@stevess7777]

MUAY THAI AND MUAY CHAIYA AND MUAY BORAN

[@neththeobnoxioussponge8929]

and uhhh.... LETHWEI

[@eb782nd7]

One issue I have with most mma gyms is that they teach the fundamentals, and yes you do spar, which it phenomenal, however just learning the basic techniques isnt the best, truly understanding them is the important part, their ins and outs, weaknesses and strengths. This allows a greater level of reaction and countering and attacking both, as well as makes you alot smoother in transitioning.

[@timboslice980]

Always a great perspective. I feel like i learn more from this channel than any other. Some guys get deep into technique (fighttips) some are just fun (sensei seth) but this channel gets so deep into the philosophy and logic of martial arts.

[@fr0gsees]

great explanation and breakdown. really enjoyed hearing your thoughts. i’m a noob, so super helpful for me to understand the strengths and downsides to each style of martial art. good stuff, thank you!

[@hivemind5137]

I wasn't expecting to hear such an in depth analysis of these martial arts techniques. Subscribed 👊

[@ubcroel4022]

Wrestling and Boxing has shown the most success in MMA.

[@BeyondFatal47]

Dude I just wanna say, your videos inspire me on a very personal level. I admire your style and insight. Please continue with your channel. Your videos are like the book of psalms for martial artists. Somehow, I think you will understand my meaning. Thanks Ramsey. ;)

[@Andulsi]

I d like to train with this guy...seems so passionate and loves his stuff. You d learn loads

[@DoomRater]

Kinda crazy how much of this mentality going into the fighting game genre people as well. When you say to master what you want to be good at, and be aware of what others are doing, it reminds me that today's fighting games are complex enough where people typically only reach a master level understanding of only one or two characters at most and are basically aware of what other characters are able to do. There was also a similar trend where, for example in Tekken series, mostly Eastern martial arts got fair shakes in the game and the Western arts were given either goofy characters or were lower tier to the point where nobody would use them for competition, so it really excited me to see Boxing as a style added to the roster as well as Vale Tulo. But then the boxing character had tons of broken stuff making him top tier material and it's taken a while for him to become more sensible alongside the rest of the cast instead of pretty much mandatory. It's just amazing how all of this kinda mirrored the trends in MMA around the same time. I recently watched an old pro in the fighting game community talk about the "wrong way to learn Tekken" where he found a new player who knew the entire movelist, but couldn't deal with basic pokes and high-low mixup strategies. These sorts of fundamentals along with good juggle combos win matches in Tekken, not sample 10 hit combos you can learn in training mode. Hope the tangent isn't too out there for ya.

[@RamseyDewey]

Great analogy

[@lucasrv2630]

DoomRater I've mained Steve since Tekken 5, he was kinda broken in the past. But honestly, they made him in Tekken 7 what I'd call a Perfect Character: Very strong and with extensive learning necessary, completely unique, competitive, but not overpowered. Although they could nerf the Wallsplat into Rageart but appart from that he's the best and most Well designed character in Tekken imo. Honorable mentions to Jin and King. But yeah, comming back to the point: Steve's a good character at the *basics*. His neutral game is fantastic and that's where ALL fights start. Same for MMA.

[@GokuInfintysaiyan]

I’m a Jin main since he can do anything and like me is a karateka. Osu

[@eben3357]

There are some brilliant Balrog players in games as old as Street Fighter. He can knock out the opponent with one punch if charged properly and he can charge between rounds because of the game timer.

[@dvldgz6306]

Catch wrestling is very good too. But I agree that boxing and wrestling is a great combination

[@byronjuarez656]

There's almost no way to access catch wresting tho. CSW (Erik Paulson & Josh Barnett) are the only reputable grapplers I know of who teach that curriculum in the US.

[@dvldgz6306]

@@byronjuarez656 snake pit USA? My school was a certified school by Erik Paulson and I also bought some of the DVD's from snake pit USA to really improve.

[@brandonblack9194]

One of the smartest things I've ever heard spoken about fighting "in a jujitsu tournament 80% of jujitsu didn't work" This applies to so much in life holy shit

[@ilyaibrahimovic9842]

In classical music (in which I have a graduate degree), we have some really sophisticated stuff that's amazing if you understand it, but the doctrine about really simple techniques done really well still holds a major place. We can find it in the music of Mozart, said to be "too easy for kids, too hard for adults" and a headache for professionals to play because unlike music with 7 times as many notes (which sounds harder and often flashier), in Mozart if you play 3 wrong notes, the audience hears 3 wrong notes like stains on an otherwise perfectly clear mirror. We can also find it in JS Bach's Little Organ Book, where he devises compositions out of the melody of a church hymn, harmonized simply, and a straightforward elaborative figure. Basic materials, theologically and musically deep results. It takes true genius to make such richness out of such simplicity without depending on sophistry. (One saying goes, "fools marvel at complexity; geniuses marvel at simplicity.")

[@drzeus4205]

I honestly love your channel. How didn't I find this goldmine sooner!

[@d_ruggs]

if you hang around gyms for any amount of time you'll notice that really crazy techniques can only really be used when they are set up, and they can only be set up on someone unaware, which usually means new. not many black belts get caught in a bow and arrow. high level shit usually ends with (like you said) fundamentals - RNC, Right cross, or rear round house (but even thats rare as the are easy to read) learn crazy stuff for fun, master the boring simple stuff to compete seriously

[@arioca]

I just found your channel, very interesting content. I’d argue that the first real MMA fighter in the UFC was Marco Ruas who practiced Luta Livre, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Judo, Muay Thai, Taekwondo, and Capoeira.

[@lucasrv2630]

In my eyes, we all have to look at a perfect balance between what is effective and what we all feel confortable with. Some people develop a fighting style in wich they like to keep good distance and use kicks to that purpose, expecting takedowns and using apropriate technique, not only to avoid being taken down, but also to not leave any openings. Other people feel confortable enough with their defensive and evasive technique - sometimes even confortable with their chin - that, If they find it worth it, they'll get in range and trade blows, counter-attacks and study opponent patterns, maybe even go for the ground if it happens and be confident there. Sometimes there are hybrids, like McGregor, who applies good technique not to get taken down, but has good ground technique, focusing on getting up again; has some swift footwork and a stance with such spread legs that Muay Thai practicioners would laugh at it, but very good at entering danger zone and confident enough on his defense, evasiveness, head movement and trading potential to win fights standing completely still. No matter what martial art of these you choose to be *the one*, assuming you know how to deal with other stuff, you'll be ok. You know why? Because you got *the basics* down. Boxing and Wrestling tho ;)

[@MorganTDaniels]

I enjoyed your breakdown of the answer here. And your perspective that the high levels of martial arts are the basics done very well. Nice answer.

[@stephenlleeds]

for defense, wrestling mixed with any style of striking is king. BJJ takes way to long to learn, wrestling and boxing/ kickboxing can be learned within 6-12months. not mastered, but def become a decent fighter.

[@Ca-vz2yo]

Bs

[@stephenlleeds]

@@Ca-vz2yo which part? Wrestling gives you grappling skills and takes about 6-12 months to become decent. Boxing can be learned roughly less time than that. This gives you both Grappling and striking skills in a year or less. BJJ does not teach striking and "typically take 18 months to two years to reach blue belt level which is typically understood as indicating basic skill in BJJ.". Give me two years of wrestling and boxing and I would not hesitate to fight a blue belt in BJJ.

[@soaringeagle9597]

@@stephenlleeds Well, yeah... *obviously* someone who has 2 years training in a grappling AND a striking art would have a large advantage over someone who solely trains BJJ.

[@adityaargekar1356]

@@stephenlleeds how is the combination of muay Thai and wrestling !?

[@Bluemann023]

stephenlleeds how long you think it take sto master boxing

[@wendigo1619]

I was a boxer for years and i've been a catch wrestler since i was 6, but my kicking was trained by my older sister who is a Muay Thai girl. Muay Thai really evolved my game quickly and got my mma fights to a different level

[@dardrex777]

I would argue Marco Ruas was the first guy to be the staple of MMA in the early UFCs. Destroyed Tank Abboit with leg kicks. Submitted other fighters during the tournament. Was an expert level in striking and grappling.

[@martyleyeti]

I agree about fundamentals. The most underestimated fundamental is the low kick. The second is the kick to the liver. Anytime a boxer fights against a KB/MT specialist, he loses, and he loses fast and/or bloody. What made Royce Gracie so successfull is not just his grappling. RG could throw or feint kicks, using it to put on a TD, esp. front/steep kicks. He also used groin shots or headbutts a lot. I mean he was prepared for MMA, not just from the grappling POV. That's what made the difference

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

I'd say learn all 4 and more. wrestling and bjj can compliment each other very well when used together. boxing and muay thai cna compliment each other very well as well. I think boxing and capoeira have potential to compliment each other. wing chun and kali specialize in trapping which is the same range as knees, elbows, clinches and standing grappling. it all depends on the person, their strengths and weaknesses, what works for them, what they like, etc.

[@johnmarks2165]

This is very good advice. I'm a big believer in getting the fundamentals right. I've seen so many fights won with good basic fundamentals. Also play to your strengths and use them as your main game, but work on what you don't know to help you in the situations you don't want to be in.

[@jimmynix5399]

I have 2 words for you. Rex Kwon Do!

[@tubebobwil]

The information density of this video is amazing. Ramsey does not waste our time.

[@coolitnow0013]

Marco Ruas was said to be the real first multi range fighter in the UFC by many

[@byronjuarez656]

True but what bothers me was how Ruas was pure muay thai standing and pure BJJ on ground. Don Frye on the other hand, could use his boxing to set up double legs. Or he could sprawl n' brawl vs grapplers. Frye's game was much more dynamic than Ruas - he didn't have to pick and choose.

[@TalentDanceTV14]

It's awesome to see you get all these questions Ramsey , full of knowledge

[@kipallen8793]

Sanshou Sanda & BJJ/Wrestling More complete..Zabit Is The 21st Century Perfect MMA Fighter..

[@rocmiraclepallares7504]

Wow, I am pretty sure this is what my sensei/coach has been trying to teach me for a year. The advanced is the simple that works. I love your timber as well, so low and deep. Great video!

[@morlot]

I think one of the major factors to the rise of striking in mma is more related to the entertainment side of the sport. Like you said, the way the fights are organized in 3 rounds of 5 minutes don’t favor the grapplers like the old no limit time, no round, fights did. If a fighter just uses wrestling and bjj his/her fights will just not sale. People still don’t valorize the grappling aspects the same way as the fighting aspects. Just look at John Fitch, he was amazing in the ground, a takedown expert that controlled his opponent like no other, but people tend to look at him as a boring fighter. The second lost he got he was kicked of the UFC. I still think if they used the old rules like no time limits and no rounds, Bjj and wrestling would dominate like in the old days. Don’t get me wrong, I would much rather watch today fights, that are much more entertainment , BUT, if the game was different Bjj and Wrestling would still command the sport.

[@EnochBrown-s5j]

Thank you, Mr. Dewey. I never ever get enough of your wisdom!!!

[@scrawlin18]

Muay Thai + wrestling

[@BboyTurok1990]

scrawlin18 Same here. I trained in Muay Thai and wrestling for almost a year at American Top Team but quit because of school. But in my college it has a wrestling team and I'm in the team but didn't compete yet but would love to once I get better at wrestling.

[@Hatlegratzz]

Jon Jones ?

[@wrestler-kickboxer2524]

HatleGratZz TJ Dillashaw, Joanna, Aldo, Cain Velasquez, David Teymur, Mighty Mouse, ME.

[@wrestler-kickboxer2524]

scrawlin18 + bjj

[@kipallen8793]

scrawlin18 Awsome Dude Train Wrestling With Joe Kemmerer If you can..best Wrestler i know!!

[@mainewonder9436]

Subscribed just now. My bold head brother loving your outlook on martial arts. Ty for your contribution

[@deafanddestructiononthepis3149]

I think it really boils down to purpose, will, and training. Sakuraba made this clear. Any martial arts can beat any arts if the training is top and desire to win is there. This scenario I think about for fun sometimes. I think looking back I would rather have trained Judo than BJJ. I think Judo plus Boxing are really a nice pair. Basic Judo tricks saved me in probably all my streetfights ever. I would rather never have fought at all but I am grateful I knew a thing or two because I had to sometimes

[@cloudsoflilac9731]

I do boxing in my free time but I really want to find a good martial art to do alongside it. do you recommend judo then?

[@Tyrosine0910]

@@cloudsoflilac9731 Judo, BJJ, & Wrestling are all excellent choices for grappling. I'm 30 now, but if I could start a over again, I'd start learning wrestling as young as I possibly could (3rd or 4th grade). I'd focus 100% on it until like 7th or 8th grade, at which time I'd continue doing wrestling during wrestling seasons & begin learning BJJ during the off-season. Then, once I went off to college, I'd switch to learning BJJ & Muay Thai for at least a few years; you'd be able to retain a base in Wrestling through general grappling. Finally, around 23-25, I'd begin taking MMA classes. Ah, the fun of daydreaming about "what ifs" lol.

[@Hypersp4ce]

dude, this is one of the best MMA educational videos I've ever seen. Kudos and thank you

[@Yamchadb414]

WRESTLING-BOXING TEAM!😄

[@user-hg7qg2oj8t]

I like muay thai and bjj more but wrestling and boxing is also pretty good

[@michaelss1294]

Kater Carlos , I like Muay Thai n BJJ more

[@musicgaines7170]

Never. U can't submit and are defencless below the waist. U gonna dah

[@Yamchadb414]

@@musicgaines7170 tell that to dan hendo

[@joshuakang4507]

@@musicgaines7170 if talking about fighting on the street - a blast double or head and arm throw onto concrete ends the fight. So will a proper right thrown with the precision and power a boxer can deliver it with

[@bluedruid8152]

Not going to lie man. I like to hear your explanations on martial arts they always makes sense.

[@Jagunco]

I have to say I been a stand up "fighter" all my martial arts career.... Karate Capoeira Boxing Muay Thai. Never really been one for cuddling. It is a serious weakness in me. I keep threatening to learn wrestling or BJJ. I went to a local lesson that was good and got tied in knots by every white belt there lol.

[@stillwatercamargo9606]

In order to improve in grappling you need to respect it a bit more than calling it "cuddling" Your comment is 2 years old so i hope you figured it out by now and got your blue belt

[@Priestbokmei1]

Dewey, First Principles! First Principles! First Principles! What are the First Principles of Combat? Love your videos, man. Always thought provoking and informative. Thank you!

[@crunchbrickscars3793]

I think mastering wrestling is the only thing you need to dominate in MMA. You can nullify everything thrown at you. Then all you have to do from there is have GOOD stand up. Doesn’t even have to be great. Just good. Look at Khabib, Jon Fitch, Ben askren, Daniel Cormier,Tyron Woolley,GSP all have strong as hell wrestling (GSP is the exception)

[@uhtredofbebbanburg5493]

GSP also has great Wrestling. MMA rules favor Wrestling. Doing Wrestling Sambo or Judo will give you a great advantage

[@righteousredneck777]

I stumbled upon this channel and I must say...The way you converse and take time in explaining your thoughts...very very good. I am not a martial artist myself, but I have unfortunately, had to defend myself in real life situations. Simply staying calm and using what I have, has always faired well in those situations. Normally it was always the wild punches. The big round house like punches. My game plan always the same...wait for a opening and attack. I have ALWAYS been fascinated by the martial arts and this video was EXCELLENT. My stepson who is 11 has been training in bjj. When I watch the training...it always seems to start from the guard. The objective obviously within this style is to ground your opponent. What I found fascinating is when you talked about the average time it takes before a MMA fight goes to the ground. 2 minutes is a long time. What do you do in that time if your opponent is a skilled striker? You must be able to counter strike...not just block as much as you can. So, I absolutely agree with what you are saying here in this video. You simply need different tools....for different situations. Great video and presentation. You carry yourself exceptionally well and verbally bring across your thoughts in a way that can be heard and retained. I wish you the very best in all that you do my friend. I have subscribed and look forward to checking out all of your videos and learning some helpful tips.

[@jamesandrews3535]

i want to train with this guy

[@espendahl9719]

Muay Thai and BJJ is my go to if I had to pick,but boxing and wrestling is still awesome.Mixing the 4 together can make You a all around great fighter.

[@12shah74]

But i would pick boxing and wrestling because hands are faster and will land more effectively and training punches takes a lifetime

[@espendahl9719]

@@12shah74 Boxing is awesome.I trained it for years and it kicks ass.In newer modern Thai boxing / MMA clubs,the boxing skills has gotten way much better,so that is just my 2 cents.Like I said,mixing the 4 martial arts together is very smart.

[@12shah74]

@@espendahl9719 mixing is good but you will end being a master of none and jack of all trades. So master 1 art and i pick boxing and train muay thai and other arts secondary

[@12shah74]

@@espendahl9719 you see the biggest damage that happens in mma is because of punches such as overeem has a cut lip and many have broken noses are all because of punches and they cannot defend punches as effectively as boxers

[@kurohige6712]

If you're training to defend yourself in the street. 2 of them would be enough I'd say. As the average person don't know martial art/ combat sport

[@wrestler-kickboxer2524]

Kuro Hige boxing +wrestling is way easier to use in the streets.

[@trevor75203]

Kuro Hige ad Mike Tyson once said fighting in the street and in ring are two different thing.

[@pauldigga5419]

This. This all day long. Unless you’re getting in the cage it don’t matter. Find a combat art and learn it

[@scrmnthn5233]

Kuro Hige if you’re trying to defend yourself in the street, get a gun. I don’t understand why everyone kids themselves thinking if you train this or if you train that you’ll be able to defend yourself. You’re probably not against an unarmed opponent in the streets not against just one guy

[@sheadoherty7434]

@@scrmnthn5233 get a gun? The moment cortisol floods your body you risk shooting some random person as much as you do your attacker.

[@dynamitecity9667]

Also, I love the video Firas Zahabi did on learning Muay Thai and BJJ both at the same time. Great insight from Firas.

[@ultralordd7625]

Tae Bo is the best martial art. Just ask Master Blanks, lol.

[@grennbalze]

No matter how advanced you get, never forget the basics

[@jaysonscaccia3188]

Jeff Caviler wants his shirt back

[@chrisrichards9814]

Second video of yours I have watched. Subscribed. Good stuff

[@comfunc]

20m45s: "What is the advanced stuff, really? Its the fundamentals done really well."

[@ricostvac]

I love the video! Great breakdown and comparisons

[@davejohnson-yi2rk]

Bruce Lee said, when it doubt, just go for the "straight blast". It doesn't matter how many black belts you have or how good your BJJ is, when you get hit flush on the shin or temple or jaw with enough power behind it, you'll drop; end of story. Even is you don't hit your target flush, if you're putting that much body weight & force into a punch, it almost doesn't matter where it lands. Kenny Norton ko'ed an opponent by hitting him hard in the neck! Honestly, a good 1-2 punch is pretty much enough to end most fights. Everything depends on the circumstance though. There's no such thing as "one size fits all" it all depends on whether it's comparable sized opponents, day or night, interior or exterior, alone or with bystanders, and on and on and on. Ultimately, if attacked you do whatever you have to do to neutralize your attacker & end it as fast as possible. But there's absolutely no guarantees in life. The best defense is to stay away from bars and bad neigbhorhoods and "sketchy' people. Use your head and you probably won't have to use your fists!

[@davejohnson-yi2rk]

I've seen guys doing chain punching and I'm not terribly impressed by that, or most of Wing Chun, to be honest. For me, if I've never seen it in the Ring or Cage, on ANY KZbin videos, there's probably a good reason for it. In most street fights, no attacker will try and teep or oblique kick you (unless you're somehow fighting Holly Holm). ...............................Any punch and miss can conceivably leave you open for a takedown or counter, but most of my interest is only in Street Fights, not MMA with rules, judges, etc. Even in amateur "tough man" type fights, whether pure punching only or full out MMA, actually seeing "technique" is quite rare.............................................................I DO see the BJJ Guard sometimes, because it seems to be the only accepted defense for once you're down - even in street fights & I guess every guy alive has by now watched a couple of UFCs. My feeling about a street fight, whether it's by consent or suddenly without warning, is to get it over STAT! ...................................................The longer you stick around trying to duke it out with some stranger, even if you're winning, the greater your chances become of of getting caught by, yes, a lucky punch, (Please see GPS KO'ed by Matt Serra) or a frustrated puncher suddenly "change levels" andtake you to the ground ........................................................................., and suddenly you're in deep trouble, because even his punches that don't land flush, because his fists have NO padding, are enough to pounce your head against the concrete & put you into a coma for the rest of your life. Just DON"Ttelegraph that punch from a mile away!, (Bruce was very interested in the non-telegraphic punch) because that's when fighters get ko'ed.

[@davejohnson-yi2rk]

I've gotten to the point in my senior years (can't believe I've just said that!) where I think I'm either an incredibly Easy Target, or any potential trouble makers don't even bother with me, because what would it prove?! Someone I spoke with perhaps 20 years ago remarked that he felt, & he was just speculating, that if Bruce had had perhaps another 10 years, he might've begun perfecting JKD, but what he left was more of a "Beta" fighting system, one that he was stillrefining when he died. .............................................................................I few times monthly I'll watch World Star whatever it's called fights, which breaks down into "Beef" fights, and straight out, no warning attacks by total strangers to see if there's ever anything they all have in common, but I've yet to see it. ....................................Perhaps the only thing I can say is that the vast majority of attacks - and street fights for that matter ("You talking trash to Me?" "Hey, you talking trash to ME!") that sorta low level, adolescent alpha male wannabe nonsense. ...................................... I guess the only thing they share in common is that about 90% of them seem to end when one punch, out of many sloppy ones, somehow gets through and bam! It's over. The head hits the pavement and that's much harder than the fist and punch which sent the loser/victim there. .......................Or sometimes it's an accumulation of punches and one guy simply folds because he's unable to fight back effectively, usually because he's smaller and the other guy simply outweighs him and the punches and body force/Mass is simply too much. ......................................................In very small number of cases, one guy grapples with another and someone goes to the ground, and the other guy will immediately start a ground and pound. Actually, nowadays I carry a HUGE scoop of sand and gravel and baby powder in my pocket, so that if an attack looks like it's seconds away, I'll try my best to shove my hand into my pocket fast, then fling it into my would-be attackers eyes, then try and ko him with as many punches and kicks and elbows are needed. ...........................Where I live, (NY) there's simply no pistol carry or even really, any pepper spray allowed. But most my life I've been, 99% able to stay out of fights and hope it stays that way!

[@doomsday8739]

The short answer to this question is whichever combination suits the fighter. Wrestling and boxing work best for really massive, strong, and just generally athletic guys, but BJJ and MT are perfect for smaller, more agile, and more technical guys. That's why I focus on BJJ and MT and my friend who's over 6', 300 lbs, and a Marine does wrestling and boxing.

[@bigbobabc123]

Daniel C. Why does boxing only work for big guys?

[@doomsday8739]

@@bigbobabc123 I didn't intend that as an absolute statement. It's just something that seems to be more common for larger fighters. They tend to have more power and to be able to land knockouts with a single punch. That being said, smaller boxers have incredible speed, agility, and reflexes, and a lot of them have accurate and solid punches. I used to do boxing, and I had a lot of power for someone of my weight class, so if you combine that with my agility and dexterity, it's a formidable combination.