MM PET IS BACK! MASSIVE HUNTER BUFFS, Changes & Fixes on PTR! | Undermine(d) Patch 11.1 Hunter

[@Azortharion]

Sorry for the stuttering cam in the first half of the video, technical oopsie!

[@TommySands]

I thought it was on my end initially 😂. Your commentary is still legit, no need for apologies. Appreciate the insights.

[@chuckpoklikuha7597]

I thought I was tripping balls. Thank you for the comment lol

[@adammm2847]

Was worth it for the random facial expressions. 😀

[@NewSato11]

Aw, don’t be sorry, we loved all the funny faces! lol! Thx for the nice and informative content as usual!

[@fredinho404]

nah, we enjoy tthat

[@dbmoose]

With all of these bug changes it is dissappointing that the explosive shot bombadier proc pulling out of combat mobs hasn't been addressed. It happens rarely, but when it does in M+ the majority of the time it causes a wipe.

[@petersimon2619]

Disengage animation? Are we getting a sick Sylvanas jump back?

[@ibMoose2u]

Looking forward to the explosive shot stuff!!

[@gooseg3822]

Please just give us back MM tier set from S3/4 of dragonflight! Or do something about trickshot not working on 2 targets. Or get aspect of the hydra out of the choice note. MM is so fun, but when playing it it’s always obvious that Trickshots is just the worst aoe mechanic any class has to play with in m+

[@Evilmon2]

My guess on the Barbed Shot travel speed increase is just that it may fit the new visual better, whatever it is. I certainly can't think of any gameplay reason for it, it was already quite fast.

[@snipedaf]

That seems very likely. My next best guess would be maybe it has something to do with the new talent applying SS in aoe. Maybe increase barbed shot travel speed allows that talent to apply SS in the time you would expect/want it to? Idk I’m just spitballing. Haven’t tested it yet

[@Calypsode1]

@@snipedaf Im not sure if its just me and lag but it is often the case that I would send a barbed shot and then an arcane shot before the barbed would hit and proc a kill command reset. It makes the rotation feel laggy and awkward sometimes and in some cases munch a kill command. Travel speed is actually a hugely underrated change imo.

[@racerx.85]

Thanks for the update. Happy Hunting!

[@Arithawn84]

They're really hoping we talent into explosive shot...

[@MarkElf2204]

oh no, the 2 button class has to click another button every 30s. What a tragedy!

[@Reimm2011]

@@MarkElf2204 It has more buttons than mm actually lmao, thats not why people say its easy. it's because it doesn't have cast times.

[@UndeadR]

@@MarkElf2204you really need to play this game instead of showing you dont know nothing about it.

[@DERG0se]

Every spec looks now insane. I don't know which spec i wanna play next patch

[@Jakaup]

Explosive shot for 200% sheesh im just staying BM getting fed tier set and sending it

[@itsnay7382]

nooo explosive shot buffs STOMP by 200% even better I think but still

[@gala5000]

i think they should take a hard stance and make having a pet be strictly worse than not for mm, people who want that ranger fantasy shouldnt have that ruined because theres 10 bm hunters that also want a pet as mm

[@TheRealDigitalDecaf]

I mean it is worse right, and its an option as well

[@Solaxer]

Weird take. If you don't want a pet, don't play the pet class. Marks always had to use a pet up until Legion where it became optional.

[@michaelr119]

@@Solaxer you’re wrong. All through vanilla MMs pet was just something that sat there and buffed the raid. He’s right MM doesn’t feel right with a pet. If you want a pet go BM

[@gala5000]

@ I want to have a ranged sharpshooter character and it’s not like they are gonna make another class that fits that theme, I don’t get why people even wanna play with a pet the ai is shit and there’s no integration into the kit like bm has

[@gala5000]

@ also legion was almost a decade ago

[@Monstershots]

Or just make withering fire procs during call of the wild off the gcd. That would be a nice change too.

[@AlexDevillord1]

Thanks for your hard work

[@erichelton2751]

Wtih the BM COTW, they should just make Black Arrow trigger every 4 seconds on your next KC.

[@waroxicnation3506]

Idk why so many people that play MM cried about not having a pet you run lone wolf anyways if they want a pet play survival or beast master

[@agronnak]

I prefer not using a pet at all. It's AI and pathing is broken in a bad way. Pets getting stuck or lagging behind way too often when playing BM and Survival triggers me into oblivion

[@MarkElf2204]

Very loud minority spamming the forums about it.

[@Solaxer]

Survival is melee and BM plays entirely different to MM. Idk why so many people who play MM cry about having a pet. Hunter is a pet class, you use a pet. It'd be like rolling rogue and being upset you have to use stealth. Get over it

[@waroxicnation3506]

@@Solaxer it crying about it having a pet but when 90% if MM are running lone wolf why would you have a pet?

[@Solaxer]

@@waroxicnation3506 90% run lone wolf because it does more damage. Way more people would use pet if pet damage was equal to lone wolf. If you don’t like pet play one of the 11 other non-pet classes bro. I hear mage is looking good give that a shot 🤝🏽

[@tacobowl1342]

MM is billions timea better without pet management

[@zmcnabb]

I feel like with them forcing us to pick butchery OR flanking strike, and nerfing the bleed, plus limiting access to as many bombs makes me wish we just had 5 second cd carve back from shadowlands and df. Or we could really use that talent from tww launch where raptor would hit up to 3 targets after some proc. bm looking like its feasting and unfortunately I've always disliked bm since legion rework but we gotta do what we gotta do I suppose.

[@scorchma]

I‘m still not happy that Explosive Shot is a part of the BM toolkit… i wish they will put it in the MM tree in the near future. It doesn‘t fit to BM imo

[@MrWilliams089]

Is the Pet talent even going to work in raid or M+ sounds like a leveling/questing/outdoor talent

[@Linkthestink1]

Looks like survival is dead in m+, your going have no bombs and the aoe bleed is gutted, buffing bombs by 6% does not make up for losing that many bomb casts during a pack. Seems like only massive nerfs for survival, I might be the only one who didn’t want to be hitting raptor strike more in aoe packs idk.

[@jaded-harper]

no one wants to hit rs in aoe, they say it feels "bloated" but that's only because blizz has barely any idea how to even pilot the classes they are designing

[@Nimbus1612]

I’m with you. I loved survival cause of bomb spamming aspect. I’m sort of sad.

[@Snake_holiday]

Ya seems like very unnecessary changes. I think SV is fine as it is rn. Hopefully the damage buffs are enough to compensate.

[@MrTueiversen]

Wich one will be best DPS for m+ you think

[@christianstade1]

based on the amount of changes and improvements, i guess we'll see either MM or BM dominating for hunters. But we'll have to see ;)

[@MrTueiversen]

@christianstade1 what spec they running? Wich hero

[@TheRealDigitalDecaf]

oh god, BM is going to be too strong and we are going to get gutted in the first balance patch because blizzard has never not overcompensated with BM nerfs Also does that mean MM pets are going to be tankier than BM pets? BM doesn't have any natural DR right

[@Truesavages]

WHERE IS wailing arrow.....😢😢😢😢😢They deleted it???......it was so good

[@951001ify]

After trying it out, MM still 1 hour cast spec, SV feels meh, but idk how, but BM does double dmg than MM and SV, maybe Im using MM and SV wrong 😂

[@junlinggoh2936]

hmm your camera is lagging XD, i spent 2-3 min checking everything on my pc wondering what's causing the fps drop LOL

[@chielzzmew]

Glad that pets are back. This way casuals can enjoy lower dps with their cosmetic pets and can be easily identified. The Eagle pet is so much better in every single way, although adding a pet back in for MM is such an easy W for blizzard they will just take it.

[@TJR123]

I dislike that they have been taking away the number of times we press fun buttons in surv and have been instead trying to increase the GCDs we hit Raptor/Goose or KC. I understand they serve a purpose but they are less fun then every other ability in the kit.

[@strikerzero9995]

Great video! Now can someone with the dev's ear please ask them to make barbed shot's bleed do rollover damage? Now more than ever it seems more important because of the new 11.1 2p bonus for BM hunters.

[@Saucemixer]

tieing Dark Ranger again to Call of the Wild is the worst change ever. It basically force us into it when playing DR. Not a fan not at all.

[@sygmarvexarion7891]

Wait, so hunters who want to keep their pet will be 1 talent point shorter because they have to put it in Unbreakable Bond? 🤣🤣🤣

[@eduardoparedes9977]

You could pass me the link to read it well.?

[@Dumbmelee]

🐐

[@Echo22WC]

I wonder if blizz feels stupid slowly melting SV into melee BM, like it always should been.

[@Echo22WC]

Have*

[@SamMathewsOfficial]

SV should NEVER be anything like BM ever!

[@Echo22WC]

All the slow changes say otherwise.

[@SamMathewsOfficial]

@@Echo22WC What they do and what they should do are completely different.

[@Echo22WC]

Hence my curiosity if they feel stupid yet.

[@BreadyCrunch]

This video is lagging like crazy

[@Solaxer]

I don't understand why or how Blizzard cannot balance the pet. It's just a glorified DoT packaged as an NPC. Pet and lone wolf MM should be equal damage wise and come down to flavor. Can't be that difficult.

[@EliteJerk]

Why should they be equal? You're arguing that a "set and forget" ability should be on par with actual skilled play.

[@Solaxer]

@@EliteJerk Micromanaging a pet is more skill-intensive than not having one. That's actually a big reason why a lot of people don't even like the pet to begin with.

[@EliteJerk]

@@Solaxer no, you literally do not touch your pet in high end content. Marksmanship has no skills in its kit that interact with the pet. It just exists as a purely passive form of damage that you cant interact with. When that damage is tied into your rotation, THEN it becomes a skill.

[@Perways]

@@Solaxerwrong ppl hate pets because they are causing bugs and issues. Also as MM having to Summon a pet, dismiss and last second Lust if you are only bloodlust class just sucks!!! Glad we have a bloodlust Button now!

[@Perways]

@@EliteJerkyes since Hunter is the Most played casual class since low skill floor you have a lot of people completly out of touch from Endgame. They still do world content and have Problem to solo it with item Level 630+ and without a pet😂😂

[@bobbyjones9461]

Thank Darwin they charged us $90 for that brutosaur! They have the budget to let people fix bugs now! Worth