The consequence for not slaying the paladins is you miss out on her romance. Since it won’t trigger unless the paladins are dead
@fenneclord95815 ай бұрын
Karlach feels more like a big sister than gf anyway You’re better off romancing shadowheart or minthara
@VeniKpop5 ай бұрын
@@fenneclord9581but her romance is so sweet
@lotusthemermaid5 ай бұрын
Omg thank you @@fenneclord9581
@cyrlzo50164 ай бұрын
@@fenneclord9581 hell no
@sammydavis6064 ай бұрын
Wouldn't you also miss out on the loot in the basement too? Some better weapons that ypu can either use or sell and some other metals to sell
@BonesCapone5 ай бұрын
I killed Balthazaar in his lab. Who runs into a dude that has pentagrams carved into his skin and goes "Yeah, I'll trade"?
@Pheonixflamez105 ай бұрын
Bro this. I knew the second I saw man's he had to die. Never even letting him set foot in shars domain
@JMOlsen_5 ай бұрын
I doubt that I would have cared about what Balthazar looked like, had he been set up as a useful trader.
@lowkey_kiana5 ай бұрын
I genuinely did not even talk to him I just attacked
@guyrapong5 ай бұрын
I found you HAVE to trade, buy his haste potion for an easier time, he's easy to kill but his poison cloud is annoying
@5Demona55 ай бұрын
I played Necromancer Wizard and hoped there would be more dialogue between em. I was a bit disappointed.... So I put 3 barrels between him and Flesh and boom
@MrTrellheim5 ай бұрын
I will never not kill the paladins because even when I'm not romancing her I would do anything to make Karlach happy.
@frodology4 ай бұрын
same
@ididthisforreddit24285 ай бұрын
If you lie to karlack she will leave your party when you get to the mountain pass
@Hawkens4k5 ай бұрын
I saw those energy swords... Wort wort wort!
@restlessteela5 ай бұрын
Halo Energy swords mod www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/6465
@damobeck15 ай бұрын
RAHHH RABLABLA
@gigantor65195 ай бұрын
Ezmozstawmezididle
@user-mu8ok5xf8d5 ай бұрын
Wait. If you kill the flying elephant guy who does the cult ask you to kill to prove your worth
@bewbsweatАй бұрын
That’s what I’m wondering ?!?
@wanderdragon10755 ай бұрын
Actually don’t push Balthasar. Attack him, and counterspell his summon (which can only be done if you pop off without talking to him). Then just dogpile him because he’s actually pretty weak.
@UnknownDenizen4 ай бұрын
I just sniped him with Eldritch Blast from atop the last floating platform before you drop down with him and the Nightsong. Kept doing it till it finally triggered the battle, but it was free eats by the time that happened.
@faancyynaancyy5 ай бұрын
But why wouldn't you kill the Paladins of Tyr? They're assholes, have a nice sword and are made of XP. It's not even a difficult fight.
@thecursed015 ай бұрын
They are also not paladins of tyr
@Sir_ShadowZ__5 ай бұрын
Hold person + 2 divine smites. That's how my first interaction with them went.
@tantalus_complex5 ай бұрын
@@Sir_ShadowZ__ Yeah, that fight can be rough if they roll well and your party is underleveled.
@veganryori5 ай бұрын
Made of xp LOL
@faancyynaancyy5 ай бұрын
@@tantalus_complex can be rough yes, but you can come back later, there's no reason to avoid them completely.
@CMC0075 ай бұрын
“Y’all hear sumn” 😂
@getshwifty82265 ай бұрын
Omfg I feel so dumb for not thinking about unequipping gear for the same -self trial thing. The trial made me hate my entire freaking party (my PC included) 😭😭 Also me who always kills Balthazar before going thru the portal-prison thing: ☕🤫😏
@outrider85695 ай бұрын
Same energy as mimic tear fight
@bunnyboygamille5 ай бұрын
Even better: ungroup everyone, send only Shart inside, unequip all of Sharts equipment, start the trial, lockpick the door, send everyone else in and just DESTROY the only enemy in the room.
@Prism_Heavy5 ай бұрын
@@bunnyboygamilleOMG I never thought of this. You sir/ma'am are a genius and saved me another headache! BLESSINGS UPON YOU
@bunnyboygamille5 ай бұрын
@@Prism_Heavy I forget where I saw this tip, but it definitely makes that one easier if you are intending to run through the Gauntlet. This most recent time through, used Shart to start the trial and then sent in Astarion (who is assassin/gloomstalker) to sneak attack on her mirror image. Down in one turn.
@HeyitsEm185 ай бұрын
Or you can skip all the trials by using Knock on the Gauntlet door. I do that after beating Balthazar in his lab and beating (or tricking) Yurgir. It saves so much time and energy.
@babyshowerhazard5 ай бұрын
I’m def doing that same-self trial hack. It was easy my first run, harder and harder every run after that😭
@rat_dragon28 күн бұрын
If you want to kill the paladins, ALWAYS make Karlach greet. The dialogue's hilarious 🤣
@ZiggyKhaos5 ай бұрын
I wish I knew about the Gauntlet. Here I am getting masacred by myself. My mirrored image nearly killed me and Shadowheart. My friend was like; 'What's going on in there'?! (As he is watching my health dropping drastically) Me; Nothing good, man! She keeps poofing and shooting!! Oh god!! She just smitted me!! Oh shit. Whelp. I'm down! Live, Shadowheart, live!!!! It was hilarious. But damn. Being a Bard Paladin. May not be the wisest idea when fighting your mirror image.
@ozziefire95764 ай бұрын
For Balthazaar, I generally cast polymorph on him, and then he’s easier to shove into the abyss.
@bbdf215 ай бұрын
Lmao I never even had Balthazar come to the shadowfell, I allways fought him where you first meet him.
@StealthheartDraws5 ай бұрын
If you don’t have a strong character, have your whole team sneak up behind him and polymorph him then take turns shoving him off the cliff, or just surprise him, cast silence, and then use haste or haste spores to fireball him out of existence.
@daritoast5 ай бұрын
what happens with the murder tribunal if you kill valeria early?
@michaelacatapano5 ай бұрын
I was searching the comments for this! I so wonder what the answer is!
@daryelhernandez94725 ай бұрын
I remember accidentally eldritch blasting Balthazar then reloading to get his stuff back
@DarthPrime525 ай бұрын
I managed to get Turn Undead on him and he backed up over to a ledge and I realized I could just push him so I did. Yeah I lost his loot but at this was like the 5th or 6th time trying to go through so I didn’t care anymore I just wanted him died.
@commander-recon66244 ай бұрын
I appreciate the honesty of may or may not know
@GreatPastabox4 ай бұрын
The Balthazar fight was such a pain in the ass, I ended up sneaking up on him to be as close as possible, cast silence, and weirdly enough, he didn't summon his undead even outside the silence spell, so it was a free kill
@jackmannschreck7264 ай бұрын
I wonder who’s in the prison in the bahl trial if you kill Valeria 🤔
@kriminal70095 ай бұрын
After my second campaign (first Solo, all rest multi) I have been convinced to just kill Balthazar in the Gauntlet and not the Shadowfell. Somehow I missed him by first time through there
@heatheroutre5 ай бұрын
TIL Teela is Master Chief without the helmet/voice modulator
@dovahkiin54995 ай бұрын
I never liked inspector Valeria, but his City Watch support in the battle with the Absolute is probably the only thing that stops me every playthrough from killing him.
@rat_dragon28 күн бұрын
I kill Balthazar in the Sharran temple before reaching Nightsong...this fight's easier, I get his loot, and I don't have to deal with a fight later
@thesoffgengar5 ай бұрын
i usually have shadowheart do the unequip thing alone and separate her from the group when she puts her blood on the plate while everyone waits outside. then i lockpick the door (its a dc30 i think? but i equip the graceful cloth that you buy from lady esther) then i toggle group hide and sneak attack the lone unarmed shadowheart that's waiting up there
@localbuzzkill17605 ай бұрын
I just polymorphed Balthazar into a sheep and ganked him w my entire party
@happilychaotic27195 ай бұрын
I sued thunderwave to throw Balthazar and some goons into the abyss lmao
@codex_jinora5 ай бұрын
I've never once had to fight balthazar in the nightsong chamber. He dies the moment i find him in his hidey hole in the mausoleum. For the longest time I didn't even know he was already familiar w the Nightsong or that he would show up in the shadowfell lmao
@patheticallyy5 ай бұрын
Ok.. what mod/outfit is shart wearing when she kills the elephant jawn? And WHAT ARMOR IS MINTHARA WEARING (when shes explaining about un-equiping your character for the shar trial) i neeeed
@restlessteela5 ай бұрын
Scantily Camp to Body Armor Slot or Leg Armor Slot www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/4448
@libbymiss4 ай бұрын
I never ran into the paladins (that I can remember) and I don't recall her really talking about them, plus it's not even on her quest log, so I guess I accidentally did that one. Good thing I went down the astarion romance on that run instead of hers, lol
@hedgehog-of-anime61405 ай бұрын
During the final battle I forgot that I could summon my allies.. I was like why is this so hard!?!? Then at the end I finally realised why. Before then I forgot to bring Shadowheart to the temple so she left my team and Wyll died because I forgot to save the demon lady. And the only reason I didn't have a certain wizard blow up is because I forgot he existed 💀 honestly I have the memory of a goldfish(´~`)
@ml06124 ай бұрын
What is the mods you use in the video‽
@jenna_momo5 ай бұрын
So follow up; if you kill Valeria, then what happens with the Bhaal assassin thing? Does someone else get chained up or is it broken?
@grandheroking5 ай бұрын
i feel smart for figuring out the same-self trial one on my first playthrough 😎
@ZiggyWhiskerz5 ай бұрын
That de-gearing hack is GENIUS
@mase59955 ай бұрын
Another way is to cast silence on Balthazar so he can’t cast anything. I make sure atleast two or three of my companions have cast silence
@gillagroupie4 ай бұрын
omgggg the Tav at the beginning of the video is sooo pretty! or wait is that a dream guardian? anyways im assuming there are mods going on but just, so pretty.
@ameliabrittain36895 ай бұрын
lol the energy swords
@monkeymaddness37054 ай бұрын
Little trick for the shar trials just use the knock spell on the fort and skip all of them
@paulcassimere25704 ай бұрын
Just kill Balthazar after your first encounter with him. I can’t tell you how much better this was than trying to fight him in the shadowfell. You were going to have to kill him one way or another so might as well not fight a horde
@drno47724 ай бұрын
Zero consequences somebody’s not taking into account that sword I’m going to give which is pretty handy in act one
@flamingfoxx4 ай бұрын
The consequences are having to live with yourself after lying to karlach
@LarsEckert_Molimo5 ай бұрын
the shar trials are a defining rp moment for Shadowheart. A) she needs to do them alone B) don't cheat C) if you don't have her with you, you either have already played it once or who hurt your cruel soul?
@Vamilator71655 ай бұрын
She doesn't need to do them alone, where did you get that from?
@LarsEckert_Molimo5 ай бұрын
@@Vamilator7165 It's a trial of Shar, cooperation is clearly not intended there. Do you think they wanted you to have the blood spilling animation four times? Of course gameplay wise do whatever you want, it's your game
@Vamilator71655 ай бұрын
@@LarsEckert_Molimo Ofcourse they wanted the blood spilling 4 times, you HAVE to spill blood 4 times regardless of who does it
@LarsEckert_Molimo5 ай бұрын
@@Vamilator7165 no, not what I meant. every participant would need to do it for every test. so four times four. The blood is not a dime you throw in a vending machine, it is a sacrifice of your own power, everyone who is part of the trial would need to do this sacrifice
@Vamilator71655 ай бұрын
@@LarsEckert_Molimo No it very much is just a dime you throw in a machine. The blood sacrifice is just a very draconian door lock. What you are describing is a spiritual thing, not a physical one so even from a role playing perspective there is no reason for Shadowheart to do it alone as no one except her would give a damn about Shar and her rituals.
@Darkwolf5235 ай бұрын
I found out you can get the evil side of that quest after my 7th playthrough.
@imhigh00135 ай бұрын
Why avoid killing faux Tyr paladins? Trader. You can keep stealing all her respawned loot. (Another option? Revivfy the trader, though haven't tried it yet). (Note: Mods are awesome)
@jmarsh1315 ай бұрын
I beat Balthazar in his room, he had like 4 dudes with him and since I'd summoned his brother he wasn't there.
@hedgehoginacanoe58384 ай бұрын
So the second on is basically the mimic fight in eldenring
@SuedDuke5 ай бұрын
Arrow of thunder would be a better way to deal with balthazar right? That's how I did it originally
@CMiY05 ай бұрын
It requires a saving throw that’s pretty low so probably not.
@amandaw21335 ай бұрын
What's Karlach's suit outfit from in that shot? It's gorgeous!
@emithesheepling99514 ай бұрын
I didn't kill the paladins of tyr and karlach left instantly without speech checks or anything when I took a few long rests
@auberginebear5 ай бұрын
But the paladin of Tyr sword is good for half of Act 1 (even if you got the flaming sword in the prologue)
@merelmijs5 ай бұрын
Okay but what happens to the **later events** when you kill Valeria this early?
@catlady765 ай бұрын
I was just wondering that myself!
@teensytinyninja5 ай бұрын
What happens to the Bhaal quest if you kill the detective right away? Like, who do you sacrifice?
@piratejennish425 ай бұрын
Valeria gave me the pass... 🤷🏻♀️ That self same trial tip is golden though. Why wouldn't you want to kill the Tyr guys??
@SomeTinyCritter4 ай бұрын
May i please ask what dye and armour mod(s) your Tav is using around 32 seconds into this vid? ^^
@weirdchick2575 ай бұрын
I wish I knew that trial hack months ago. 😂
@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God5 ай бұрын
Woah are we just gonna gloss over the energy swords from Halo?
@mackenzie36524 ай бұрын
Finally, a BG3 fan that actually posts USEFUL things about the game. Was getting tired of all these touch-starved chicks posting 7 minute videos of Astarion being “cute” lol
@soulreaper18985 ай бұрын
What outfit mod is is shart wearing? Its so gorgeous
@shipmasterkent91762 ай бұрын
Did i see a pair of halo Energy swords on your character
@vengefulforces73955 ай бұрын
Got a question, if you kill Balthazar in his lab, do you miss out on specific gear in the encounter in Shar's domain?
@mrpuss25195 ай бұрын
nope
@gothiana83005 ай бұрын
omg what armor did u have for minthara!?
@feridbathory59245 ай бұрын
Or hear me out, just send 1 of your characters (preferably one with lathanders light) and just kill the only 1 That spawns
@imp1874 ай бұрын
how do you throw people into an abyss? I can never seem to target it
@notimestwo5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Lol
@AdiG15 ай бұрын
I knew about the second one
@deathveil72135 ай бұрын
casual 100k+ damage
@broodjejonko4 ай бұрын
Wort wort wort
@AnnikaOrne5 ай бұрын
Why is there no spoiler alert?
@hengirmen4 ай бұрын
you dont say those without a spoiler alert dude
@JanHagen-mx2kq5 ай бұрын
Balzahar cheese got fixxed :(
@daritoast5 ай бұрын
you can still polymorph and throw off of the ledge
@JanHagen-mx2kq5 ай бұрын
@@daritoast if i do this, he will spawn right next to me again
@daritoast5 ай бұрын
@@JanHagen-mx2kq ah damn thats so sad :( at least he can still be cheesed in the big room
@bunnyboygamille5 ай бұрын
I'm so mad you can't throw bosses into the abyss anymore. It was my plan for Cazador on my first Durge because I just didn't want to deal with him. And then I discovered you can't even shove off the spider matriarch when I started Honor Mode either. At which point I decided dropping Minthara would no longer be my strategy for Monthara.
@Jess-wq3nr5 ай бұрын
@@bunnyboygamilleat least you can still cheese Orin by throwing her into the abyss. I did that a couple weeks ago on my tactician run.
@somedudewatchintv52975 ай бұрын
Is there a reason for some of these?
@Soviet6285 ай бұрын
THAT THINGS A HER!? No way
@Solid_Fool5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I didn't know either
@Soviet6285 ай бұрын
@@Solid_Fool Nah, I was saying I simply don’t believe it’s a her. Male voice and VA so it’s a dude
@gothiana83005 ай бұрын
@@Soviet628 It is also a floating elephand with wings for ears that proportionally shouldnt do anything. So i dont see why ur illusion of reality breaks at Male voice for female charatcer lol
@Soviet6285 ай бұрын
@@gothiana8300 Because gender is a bit more important than what species it is??
@flamingfoxx5 ай бұрын
@@Soviet628Yeah you're right gender is more important than breaking the laws of physics
@PgamerOne5 ай бұрын
LMAOOO 10000 AC 😂😂😂😂
@Mkrause7625 ай бұрын
They should have had the paladins attack you at camp :/
@RebekkaJones4 ай бұрын
*Y'all
@AlbichuDR5 ай бұрын
Valeria is a guy tho 😒
@apathyisdeath57494 ай бұрын
what a distasteful choice of mods lmao so stupid
@TheRealDurge5 ай бұрын
Why does youtube insist on showing me youtube shorts bg3 slop with the WORST outfit mods possible Nvm found the don't recommend channel thing
@shootingstarsber5 ай бұрын
oh i don't know, maybe because you keep INTERACTING with them? 😭 you got like 30 comments on this channel so I'm not sure if you're just a dedicated troll or a person who genuinely gets offended when people enjoy THEIR GAME that they paid for however they want
@TheRealDurge5 ай бұрын
@shootingstarsber bro spent way too long writing that comment That being said I found the don't recommend channel button so don't expect to see me here again, fuck face
@patheticallyy5 ай бұрын
@@shootingstarsberliterally like...why is this person so fucking pressed..??
@Account1-us5fn5 ай бұрын
okay cookiekobald
@scarymonsterzz5 ай бұрын
Wrong: the consequences are that you don't get into heaven for lying to Karlach.