This Broken Cashies Gaming PC Turned Out To Be One Of The Best Deals I've EVER Found...

[@krispybacon5038]

Your dog clearly fixed the problem and should get the credit.

[@Drewtheelder]

I thought the same, get him a nice bone.

[@hereallyisfranz]

Indeed

[@JustIn-sr1xe]

he was pointing out the loose connection when he stuck his head in the case.

[@kaysimpson]

Doggo chased away the mischievous kitty karma

[@soupwizard]

Dr. Debug Doggo

[@ASRLawman]

2:20 Stray benchmark must have caused the cat paw prints.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

😁 I missed an opportunity there

[@sterlings2239]

It's down-to-earth, real-life circumstances, testing and gambles in videos like this that remind me why I love watching your videos. I feel like I just scored a great deal too!! There's no doubt in my mind that you are an unbiased and a true Enthusiast of hardware and gaming who's had some surprises and disappointments buying hardware. Never stop documenting your best and worst finds and everything in between!! See you in the next video! ;)

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Thanks mate :)

[@nesssick5163]

Buy sum meat for the dog

[@Pholiage]

Could of been a grounding related issue. The pc builder might of had the motherboard bent against the case. It's easy to overtighten screws in cheap cases with bad standoffs

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah I suspected that too. Seems likely

[@Eisspitze]

Could've*

[@leckthetech6132]

Bad standoff's?

[@Middcore]

@@leckthetech6132 The pegs on the motherboard tray you screw the motherboard into so that the board "floats" a bit and isn't actually touching the case. Nice cases usually come with them preinstalled (although they can be repositioned for different board form factors) but cheaper cases may come with crappy standoffs you have to install yourself, and inexperienced builders also occasionally overlook some of them.

[@Birdy1131]

first thing i thought to.

[@Durbanite2010]

"Please don't lick it" - RGinHD, 2022 This is the content we come here for. Also, at 1:43, you can see a motherboard screw is missing, so maybe there was a little bit of grouding that the motherboard wasn't happy with, which is why everything worked after being removed from the case.

[@recordatron]

I remember when a housemate of mine from a while ago got two kittens and I had an issue with my PC just not sending an image and I just happened to remember one of them jumping up on top of the PC and brushing against it and decided to have a look inside and I found a tiny cat hair had slipped into the PCIE slot. I can almost guarantee that was probably a similar issue in this build as soon as you mentioned the paw prints and that it just worked when you took it apart and put it back together. Literally just the one little hair was enough to stop my system working properly so I'd wager this will also be the case. Also your lil doggo getting his full konk in there bless him 😂

[@cortezbaldur413]

True had a similar situation where was working on my PC and cat decided "oh look a box" and bam PC didn't work again. Till a year later I put it back together in another case and it worked perfect. So just shows how weird things get.

[@mick00000000002]

If pc on floor there your results

[@notavailable9919]

Re-seating of cpu most likely, that could explain the ram led as the pins may not have been making good contact.

[@alinzelnan]

That would be my guess as well.

[@PhantomOverload]

Yup, I've had this exact problem a couple of times with Ryzen when building PCs. I actually bought a PC that wouldn't work a couple of months ago and the issue was the CPU needed reseating.

[@Bricksandmortars]

Had stutter develop on my ryzen system after swaping out a 3100 for a 3800xt, swapping back to the 3100 didn't resolve the stutter, removed the socket cover and there was plastic swarf in there must have caused a bad connection, cleared out and back together and the stuttering was gone, have heard of thermal paste in the socket causing a wide range of problems as well.

[@Ebolachicken]

or maybe someone tried to overclock the cpu.

[@Theedgecrusher93]

@@Bricksandmortars I’ve had thermal paste on one pin cause all kinds of issues!

[@anetka556]

Ive been a tech for 26 years. My older bro recently has moved into tech (last 5 years, fully funded as working in defence) and has vastly more qualifications than me. He recently reluctantly asked if i could recover the data from a laptop that was "broken beyond repair" as he lacked and m.2 dock. It took 20mins to see the liquid damage to a daughter board that regulated power, a few more mins to fix. Just doing the basics, not giving up, doing a full teardown will often resolve it. Fortunaterly after moving careers ive gained access to unlimited Microsoft courses and quals that I am working through quickly to remind bro that experience trumps quals every time. I look for it in new employees, ive met guys that have done 7 years of uni to get a degree in computer science that asked on the first day of the job "what is an ip address?". Leanring in school helps sure but analytical skills take real world experience.

[@wizzts]

I like your opinion. Though the society gives low chances without big degrees... unfortunately.

[@anetka556]

@@wizzts fortunately some organisations do look for experience. Event thne I had to start in my current org at service desk level with over 20 years of 3rd line experience. But once the foot is in the door its good. Now i have access to MS quals

[@zqmahmed7701]

Oi mates come down to cashies mate

[@commentarysheep]

IT'S THE CASHIES SPECIAL, MATE!!!

[@victorm.06]

IS THAT A DANKPODS REFERENCE MATE?!?!?!?!?!?!

[@TalkingToBirds]

DANKPODS!!!

[@TalkingToBirds]

Get the comment to 200 likes

[@egirlsareruiningmylife]

I made dankpods references in all of his previous cashies videos and nobody got them

[@FifteenthApollo]

Some of the most down to earth, wholesome PC-centric content on KZbin. I've been watching this one for a while now, and I gotta say almost all the content isn't flashy, clickbait-y, or overbearing, but sometimes less is more. Keep it up my man! Love the content! Very straightforward and down to earth.

[@Orodreth888]

Just recently I bought a broken PC with a GTX 660 TI, I5 4570, 8 gb RAM and a freaking huge nice gamer case. 40€. He wanted to get rid of it. I first tried another GPU, because I was told it would not display. Booted up just fine. Got curious and put the 660 back in the PC. Ran just fine. I scratched my head, threw a 960 in it and called it my second PC in case my main Rig blows up.

[@mechanicalpants]

Excellent purchase!

[@acid3129]

I got a CEX pc last week for £70 with a intel g4400 16gb corsair vengence 3200mhz ram a evga gtx 670 FTW+ 4gb an MSI Mortar z170m mobo a Silverstone 80+ platinum moduler 750w psu and a massive old-school coolermaster HAF case I just stuck a £20 i5 6600k in it and sold the whole thing for £200

[@Luigi64]

The last line was only "rig blows up" so I thought the rig blew up or something at first haha

[@Darkxfin]

I bought similar pc for 60e but with 960 4gb, only known gpu from photos seller had posted and seller didn't want to plug pc in to check other parts so i low ball offered and he accepted

[@lgpa565]

This reminds me of a certain Aussie man singing about the cashies down his street

[@Beisepimp]

Amazing deal for a "faulty" pc. PC repairing is always strange, sometimes you don't know what you did, but suddenly it works again. :')

[@RisingRevengeance]

Always hate it. Maybe it's just me but I'd rather have it fail and know the failure than randomly working again.

[@Beisepimp]

@@RisingRevengeance Yeah same for me. :-)

[@aadharshj10]

@@RisingRevengeance yess...just let me know what faileddd

[@ieatgrass108]

Literally happened to me yesterday, bought a prebuilt and a graphics separately from a friend for cheap. It PC booted but it would display. I tried replacing the monitor and it’s cables and it did nothing. Then suddenly I just unplugged the ram and replugged and it worked. It started to display again. Very weird since Prebuilts come tested and working.

[@quinnmarchese6313]

@@ieatgrass108 i replaced my own RX570 with an RX 6700 XT this year, had a similar problem, i put it all together, wouldnt boot, put the old graphics card back in, booted fine, pulled it out and replaced it again, and it worked perfectly. My guess is that Windows/the bios didnt know to switch to the basic windows graphics driver the first time, so it was trying to use the 570 driver with the 6700 but idk man computers have a mind of their own sometimes.

[@Chill_Mode_JD]

“Took it apart and put it back together again so not sure what fixed it” Hey I mean that’s usually the case with many of my vehicles over the years 😜

[@sirjarko8762]

Quite the deal, I've been dealing with corrupt windows installs the past 2 days and I've spent multiple days swapping parts and eventually I reverted to an older case and mobo which seems to work. funny enough the same mobo in this video. I totally get the struggles but it was nice to watch this video before I knock for the night at 3am and resume hopefully with a working pc again when I wake up :) You got a very good deal. pc hardware while awesome can make no sense when it comes to failures.

[@jonyjo3622]

Does it work now?

[@quinnmarchese6313]

why are taking apart the PC if you're dealing with corrupt Windows installs? in my experience, you can solve most of those problems using hard drive partitions to put the pieces back together. i had a problem when i first got my current PC, Windows install its system files to my solid state C drive while designating my HDD D drive as the boot disk, causing A LOT of issues.

[@sirjarko8762]

@@quinnmarchese6313 Because my issues were a lot hard to nail down, It wasn't just oh it wont boot, It was more installers, apps would get corrupted and random blue screens and it got worse as time went on. I don't wanna deal with partitions or try that approach. I much prefer backing up my files and going full clean install to try and make figuring out the exact issue a lot easier. I have a super fast PC and one of the fastest if not the fastest SSD you can get on the market so reinstalling windows goes very quickly. I ended up having it nailed down to a GPU, For whatever reason my RX 6800 XT was the cause, Going back to my NVidia GPU and starting another clean install fixed it and I haven't had issues since.

[@quinnmarchese6313]

​@@sirjarko8762 card was probably bad, and you're problems were more than windows installs--i was asking why crack it all open if the hardware was good and it was just corrupted windows installs, since you didn't originally specify you had a bad card. i get that you probably didnt know at the time, but i was just asking why fix a software problem by changing hardware, that makes zero sense

[@sirjarko8762]

​@@quinnmarchese6313 Why would I mess around with windows partitions if the cause could be something I don't know of maybe even inside windows? My issues were not partition related and I ruled that out with clean installs so I tried the next logical thing. Windows its self can get corrupted from just drivers or hell even windows updates and clean installs really do rule so much stuff out. When it comes to the issue at hand I had no clue what it was, Every error code, blue screen pointed me in different directions each time, half of it was so unique and odd that there was no solutions around to even try. Very random errors pointing to things deep within windows, files that most never have issues with and I certainly never heard of and my research over the course of a week confirmed this. So what should I do? Clean installs and reformatting did nothing so that already rules out partitions as did trying to install windows to a different SSD to rule that out. So I moved to hardware, I started with the simple hardware related stuff, cmos clear, changing the ram etc to the more advanced stuff and eventually I found the cause. It was my GPU. For whatever reason whether I install drivers for it or not it will corrupt stuff, It starts with EXEs and gradually it moves to other things and eventually windows its self. It was very odd behavior but I didn't know it was the GPU at the time. Not a single error code or crash or behavior I dealt with pointed to that and it didn't help that it doesn't show its self until I've used the computer for more then a day. PCs are a joint partnership between software and hardware. Sometimes hardware causes software issues, sometimes its the other way round or in my cause it was 1 specific hardware component causing both other hardware and software issues, it got to a point where my PC wouldn't even post. It was a royal pain in my ass even with a different GPU installed. I've never ever dealt with the issues I was having and it appears most haven't either, I couldn't find anything online about it, The stuff I found always pointed me somewhere else and I tried those solutions and they didn't work and sure enough in the end through my process of elimination I found exactly what it was, Even a mobo change and another clean install seemed to work for a day but sure enough it started again and it was the GPU. I've never heard of a GPU causing the corrupting of windows especially in the way I was dealing with it but despite how niche it the issues and errors I was getting was I 100% know that it isn't anything else, Its not CPU related, Its not RAM or mobo or PSU or SSD or BIOS or CMOS or overclocks or anything like that, Its my specific GPU, So specific that others that have the same one don't have the issues I was getting. Your issue to sounds like you installed windows with other drives present, I don't know if they ever fixed it but I had that issue to and I make sure now when I install any windows version on any PC I always just have the C drive and that's it at least until first boot.

[@the_clown]

What o especially love about your channel is that like other tech channels you could decide to review the latest and greatest ***coughs*** LTT but rather you decide to come down to earth to us the enthusiasts who can't afford shit and you show us what the things we can afford can do and It really refreshing especially when you're testing to see the real minimum requirements that a game can run on not just testing what the minimum it'll optimally run on is

[@tzr5864]

Your dog should be the PC inspector

[@s-nooze]

I've had a 3600 for a few years now and I agree it's such a solid chip. I recently upgraded my gpu and cpu to what I call my "final form" AM4 build but I plan to keep the 3600 around for other computers and as an AM4 tester for years. Great video too, what an incredible deal you got there. I think what fixed your rig was all the kind words you spoke to it as you were troubleshooting. Or maybe it was the new thermal paste and RAM, who can say. Cheers!

[@shaneeslick]

I think Harry '🐶Sniffed Out the problem & Licked It' 😂 yeah the R5 3600 will make a great testbench CPU, plus having a set of spare parts can come in so handy, not just for testing when there is a problem but also if you need to RMA parts from your main PC you can still have a back up.

[@s-nooze]

@@shaneeslick my computer has been asking me for a puppy for years but I keep saying she's not old enough yet! I think maybe it's time.

[@shaneeslick]

@@s-nooze I can't have a dog where I live as I rent a Unit & there are no fences either, but as I live across the road from bushland I get a family of Kangaroos visit nearly every day plus other Random Aussies like Echidnas & Wombats 🥰

[@SIW808]

I've had my 3600 since release date in 2019 and it's still amazing. I will be replacing it later this year with an 8 core CPU

[@Loundsify]

What did you replace the 3600 with?

[@hal6yon]

Love the RX 570, what a soldier of a card. I upgraded to an RX 6600 yesterday, and took out the exact same card, a Strix RX 570. Got it for £68 just before the mining boom hit and it carried me through with great 1080p gaming for the price.

[@gustavokawali723]

I had the same motherboard back then. At first I thought it was also a graphics card issue but upon removing the CMOS battery, I lately found out that the system was able to boot back up again. After a few weeks, the same issue occurred. This process repeated for several months until I swapped the entire motherboard out for a tomahawk b450. After swapping it out, the issue was completely resolved. I guess it goes to show buying ROG doesnt always guarantee quality if the board itself is not optimized from the start. Could be a microcontroller issue or poor bios configuration in my opinion. It has too many pcie express lanes, but the board is not optimized to handle all those features

[@baroncalamityplus]

Before you take everything apart next time, try unplugging the power supply from the motherboard, remove the battery, and then reset the bios. Its possible that the capacitors in the power supply had enough power to sustain the bios even though the battery was removed.

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

True but only for a bit rather than taking the time to unplug give it sometime while off

[@WTBMrGrey]

Just press the power button while its unplugged. Sometimes the fans/lights will switch on for a second or two and use any remaining power.

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

@@WTBMrGrey Yeah i use that trick all the time do that then wait 30 seconds works with all my electronics

[@MrNside]

One thing I've noticed, particularly with some 300 and 400 series AM4 boards, is that they retain energy in their capacitors that will throw false booting error codes. This happens particularly after some hardware swap like RAM or CPU. One thing I now always try when troubleshooting a boot error after swapping hardware is to unplug the 8 and 24 pin from the motherboard, and press the power button a few times. That seems to dissipate any lingering charge in the caps, and lets the motherboard start up fresh and detect new hardware as it should.

[@gamelard1963]

now that i think about it happened to me when i upgraded ram and hard drive. i kept getting boot errors. and it happened again on my new build when i used my old 1600x to update the bios on my mobo and when i put in my 5600x it wouldnt boot. the bios settings had all changed and i had to spend 1 hour moving settings until it booted lol.

[@THU31]

I once had a problem that one of my DIMM channels stopped working. Both memory modules worked fine in single-channel mode. A few months later the PC stopped booting altogether. I took out everything from the case, cleaned all the components, put it all back together, and the PC started working normally again, including both DIMM channels. Magic.

[@dadgamer6717]

My best buy was £25 from gumtree. Neighbour gave it to him when moving out but he couldn't get it to work. I spotted b450m motherboard and a decent GPU and travelled an hour to collect it. I didn't expect it to boot but it went right to bios! It just needed a new hard drive! It was a ryzen 2700 and Rx 590 and 16gb ram. Best deal ever!!

[@MetaDude]

Deals like these want me to kill my self with these shit pcs in my country

[@Loundsify]

That's insane, some people have no idea what things are worth. Although I often think is it a scam or is it stolen lol

[@Maartwo]

Great deal. You were blessed by the PC gods 😂. I love your doggo btw is he overclocked?

[@JadeIsler]

I'm going through the same right now with an old HP minidesk. Thank you for making me feel less alone with this tedious headache of a stupid fix

[@OldPoi77]

Years ago I had cats and one of them had peed inside a pc that was in storage and it rotted the motherboard and into the metal of the case and stank, just wanted to share that.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Haha that’s good to know. Maybe not good actually but interesting

[@UncommonKnowledge587]

🤣🤣🤣

[@molec_ule]

The dog made the whole video 13/10 would watch more for dog

[@jean-dreswartz6864]

Nice find, previous owner probably overclocked the memory or something and didn't post after, then throught it was completely broken. Clearing the bios then sorted the issue.

[@corruptedpoison1]

I once got a PS4 with a "broken" HDMI port and when I plugged it in it worked just fine with zero issues. I think the Ebay seller had a bad HDMI cable. I only got the system for $120 and this was in 2017.

[@Loundsify]

Good buy

[@0errab0]

I snagged a for parts or repair Ryzen 5900X from a seller for 99.00 that was listed to have slightly bent pins. To my surprise, the chip arrived with only 4 bent pins. I corrected the pins with a razor blade, cleaned the chip up a bit and slotted it in my MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon and it worked 100% Tech deals can be had if you're always looking!

[@Skitzotech]

As someone who fixed pcs for over 15 years the amount of times that simply removing a part and reinserting it (reseating) fixe the issue is so high that it was literally one of my first troubleshooting steps for ram specifically.

[@Cykotr0n]

I'm a PC repair technician by trade. From what i can tell, it was a RAM support issue. When you updated the BIOS, you updated the RAM compatibility and the system accepted the RAM.

[@HairyScrambler]

8:25 for sure, I have h81m asus proprietary board lying around that a friend gave me and it’s very temperamental. Sometimes it will only show the power LED and not turn on, other times the CPU heatsink fan will just do a little spin and shut off then other times it will full on boot into windows and work like nothings wrong and stay on just fine.

[@trr4gfreddrtgf]

Amazing find! Ryzen 5 3600's are still plenty capable, they are only 3 years old afterall. I have one in my personal system, it's been great.

[@crylune]

*5 minutes have passed since a CPU's release* People: This CPU is still pretty capable

[@trr4gfreddrtgf]

@@crylune Lol

[@damiankuemerle]

Pcs are just odd. A few months ago my Bluetooth just died on my pc no driver Installations or troubleshooting brought it back up until one day I accidentally unplugged my power strip plugged it back in and Bluetooth was back up and running good as new.

[@mattierara]

Would be interesting to see if this a permanent fix or not. I had a similar fault with a motherboard years ago. one of the components on the board just used to build up more charge than it should and it used to trigger some kind of circuit protection. Had to completely drain the pc of any kind of current every few weeks

[@soupwizard]

Ryzen 3600 is going to be a classic chip, like the i7-2600. Combo of performance and quantity sold mean we'll be seeing them in used parts budget builds for years to come.

[@finnbianga4189]

I think it's more like the i5 2500k, since it's a once-midrange chip that can be overclocked

[@JimNichols]

I wish I could run across one of those in Thailand. Prices are pretty steep here on low-middle powered computers. As usual your style is appreciated as well as your content, thank you for the time it takes to conceptualize, create, edit and UL these for my dose of computer nerd I need daily. :)

[@allergictobs9751]

It was most likely a short circuit which triggered safeties to prevent further damage. I had this happen a few times and dismantling and reassembly is the only thing that works. But this also increases the chance of the ram module slots dying early, it can be a year or two but they die off.

[@davidwithey6036]

I got a GTX 1080 TI for £130 few months back. Listed on ebay for spares and repairs and hangs and blue screens. After looking at photos I seen the sticker still on the back (warranty void if removed sticker). When I got it the paste was dry as the Sahara desert. Since owned it not put a foot wrong even OC it to 2095mhz stable so is a good chip. Love it

[@NathanLangston]

Hey, you should always put GPUs in the top PCIE lane! Your card is running on a x4 lane on the bottom. On the top, it would be running in the x16 lane. Look up the manual for the motherboard. I noticed at 5:52 and 8:37 the PC was assembled with it at the bottom.

[@bafon]

One common issue that causes problems like this it too high mounting pressure installing aftermarket coolers, and/or tightening down corners by not following the star pattern. Some people also think that by increasing the mounting pressure you will get better thermals, but indeed you are twisting the CPU out of aligment in the socket, followed by a --> thermals got too high, so the CPU died :)

[@gandi69]

People are idiots when it comes to things like this. Why do most cpu coolers come with springs on the clamping bolts, the springs do the work there is no need to horse things up as tight to strip the threads. Same goes for automotive, hence why things have a torque spec!

[@crylune]

@@gandi69 More companies should do it like Noctua where you cannot overtighten the screw because they stop you from threading the screw exactly where you need to.

[@yogibear2k220]

Well done on the troubleshooting. Got a strange fault with my PC in that about every 15 minutes I lose picture for about 5 seconds, and then it comes back again. Not sure what it is as I have never heard of the problem before and can't find any info on it on the net. I am just wondering if you have ever had this problem? I thought it was a graphics card issue, but it works fine on my other motherbaord. And I know it's not memory as I have 48gb ddr 4 3600 ram. Could it be a faulty processor? Thanks in advance.

[@rck-lp7389]

I had this issue several time with DP. Try another cable or another slot on your GPU or Monitor.

[@vimp8772]

Does it happen more often, if you pin your GPU to constant 100% with Furmark etc.? Or does it happen less, it you let your System in Idle with nothing happeningon the screen (with automatic power saving turned off). It could by a defect with your GPU, but to better understand the circumstances of the picture loss and how to produce or influence it would help, because there can also be different factors which only combined make this problem, e.g. certain PSU with certain GPU with certain driver version.

[@yogibear2k220]

@@rck-lp7389 Thank you, but I do not use Display Port, only HDMI, and have also tried all 3 slots on my PC and all 3 HDMI ports on my monitor (TV,) with at least 6 different cables including one I paid £35 for (stupid, I know,) I would go back to the motherboard the card works fine on, but it is quit an old board and the memory speeds max out at 2600. Also, my Ryzen 9 5900x is not compatible with the old board even after a bios update. But, again, thank you.

[@yogibear2k220]

@@vimp8772 no, there is no change with the graphics card idle or maxed out. I thought it was a GPU fault, but as I stated in my first comment, it works great on my older motherboard. The only conclusion I can think of is the motherboard, maybe I should save for a new one. Thank you. Forgot to mention it is a GTX 1080ti if that makes any difference.

[@Elinzar]

Do you use the same hdmi cable when the gpu is in the other system? Cables can go bad either it begin display port or hdmi It happens the same on my (cursed) system I have a Z270 mobo with a headless Tesla M40, and i was having this issue for so long through my motherboard hdmi port I swapped to display port so i could run 144hz out of my monitor and that never happened again In my case tho is the port itself as i used another hdmi cable to another monitor and that monitor flickers the same way as it did before so yeah

[@gandi69]

Interesting, cash converters clearly buy “faulty” hardware unless this happened after they bought it from someone?

[@spacecy]

2:40 doggo IT made a full inspection, found the problem immediately. heck!

[@JMatrx]

Tiny experience from another Asus board user (mine is a x470 Prime pro). Most of the times, the clear CMOS literally doesn't work. You have to make sure to flip out the battery, discharge PSU capacitors, short that CMOS pins over and over again and eventually swap out ram too (with another kit/ID) in order to fix a bricked bios post. Past agesa 1006, it has made this board basically impossible to me to overclock the RAM, as soon as you get into no post area (because one or more timings are too much) you have to do the whole process above yet again, in order to have a complete bios reset.. so I keep the stock xmp and to hell with it. So I bet it wasn't a cable.. just Asus sheanigans.

[@wylde_karrde]

I had a weird "I did nothing and it's fixed" situation like this once. A friend's pc was bluescreening nonstop. Couldn't figure out why, until I swapped the cpu. Her 3600 did NOT agree with her nzxt b550 board. I tried that cpu in four different builds including my own, and I tried other cpus in her pc; no issues with any of them. As soon as I put the 3600 back into her pc though, back to bluescreens. That specific cpu did not like that specific motherboard, and I have no idea why. I just swapped it with my 3800x and gave her a free upgrade. I later swapped to a 5950x, and my old 3800x is still in her pc today. Her 3600 is in a friend's build also still running fine. Weird as hell.

[@CreamyI3eaver]

This may sound like a crazy find but a couple weeks ago I was bringing ewaste to the electronics recycling bin and there was a dusty old pc in a case setting in the bottom of the bin, I was very curious and dug it out only to find an Asus z87 sabretooth with a i7 4770k installed with 16gb of Hyper X Ddr3 and 2 SSD's one being a 250 gb 860 QVO the other was 500gb china brand drive, sadly only two sticks worked as dim a1 and b1 seem faulty but after a new bios battery and bios flashback the system boots. Might look for two eight gig sticks for a slight upgrade but don't really know what gpu to stick in it yet.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

What a great find

[@TheJamesKF]

Amazing find! Everyone around here tests ever piece of a faulty PC and only sells the bad parts "as is" or "for parts only." Rarely do I see a whole PC that is sold as not working.

[@mrgunaman]

0:41 oh yes what a curse of an image.

[@evergaolbird]

I experienced a similar thing in the past and its a common thing with ASUS boards - this has something to do with the Pressure Sensor of the Socket on the motherboard. If the CPU Cooler is too loose or just slapped down to see if it boots - motherboard in fail-safe respond will not boot (it will give a long repeating beep). If the pressure is too tight on cooler as well, you'll have the same fail-safe response on the board. Back when Google can still search forums, you'll find this issue goes wayback on Intel boards. I own an ASUS PRIME X370-Pro.

[@loganking7434]

I've had the same problem when I first but my pc I have a 1660 super and r5 3600 on a tomahawk max b450 and I was so scared because it wouldn't boot no matter what I did and then out of no where after taking out and putting everything back in it worked Pc's are wild Love your channel and hope to see more

[@Hughesburner]

I had the same MB with a 2600 in my last build, ran 2yrs with no issues. The Nvme heatsink is a little overly complicated but I only had to swap the drive once.

[@Safetytrousers]

My PC broke this week, always getting stuck on the BIOS selection screen and freezing there. During trying to fix my PC my Thor PSU went kaput, tripping my electricity each time I turned it on, I think a screw had fallen in and got wedged, and the liquid I poured out of it probably didn't help either. Fortunately I had another suitable PSU. It turned out an SSD (I had 5) had died and it was that which was preventing booting (mysteriously it was a drive which didn't have a power connection until my fixing days this week). All working now.

[@John-vf4yw]

I just bought a faulty pc. An Asus CG8270 prebuild. It has a P8H77 motherboard, intel i7 3770 , 16 gb ddr3, 500w psu, 1tb hdd, and a Gtx 660 3gb in the Asus case. Pretty nice case actually. The preowner said that the display was a mess and i tought it might just be the graphics card. It was. I paid £65 for the whole system and with a Gtx 970 and an ssd the pc works fine and can play a lot of games.

[@TheSpotify95]

6:29 you can never have too much of RAM! 128GB isn't overkill at all, I know I'd find a way to use all of that. Single channel memory isn't a good idea to be honest. Also, that was a great find - you managed to get it working, and all you needed was an SSD and a few hard drives as required. I would certainly have bought that PC if I'd have seen it, as a way of upgrading from my i5-4460 build.

[@MandoMTL]

No, you wouldn't. Not unless you're a commercial video editor.

[@crylune]

I can understand 32, but 128 is definitely overkill...

[@nemezzyyzz]

I think the issue was that Asus wont let you boot if your cpu fan is not connected to the actual cpu fan header, maybe the aio wasn't connected to it before

[@jayb2705]

The dog licked it back to life.

[@gorjaharchangel2267]

It was probably some sort of grounding or general issue with the case or the motherboard needed a "harder" bios reset. I had an old s775 motherboard that refused to show any signal from an external graphics card no matter what I did. I tried resetting the bios from the jumpers, from some options in the bios menu, nothing helped. Only when I turned off the power supply and pressed the power button for about 10 seconds it resulted in a checksum error which sort of resulted in resetting the bios and then everything was fine.

[@PawwzieKitty]

The motherboard could have been preventing it booting up because it was detecting that there was no CPU fan due to the liquid cooler, I remember having to disable CPU fan detection on a friend's build for the same issue

[@kharak6204]

sounds like the pc was in use for a while before being sold off, most likely used with that aio in it before it stopped working so i doubt that's the issue

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

2:42 Dog growling at the cat scent, ha ha ha. Trying to understand what caused it? Check the LED, you said it was RAM related. In my little experience that can also mean it's the CPU, RAM, a setting or something not seated correctly. You took it all apart, put it back together, now it works. I've seen that several times too :-) Possibly looking through the crash event logs might help point the issue.

[@JimPatience]

I'm glad these things don't just happen to me. When I've repaired someone's rig they always ask "So what was wrong?" So occasionally I have to say "Erm, I don't know. I honestly just took everything out and put it back in again after a dust off, repaste etc" Also, I'm a 45 year old man with 2 cats. I pointed at the screen when your gorgeous dog came on as said to one of my cats (the lazy one) "LOOK, DOGGGGGIIIIIIIIIIIE". Lazy cat looked at me like I was a child then went back to sleep.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

😂

[@johnDingoFoxVelocity]

The RX 570 can actually be flashed to an RX 580 all you have to do is find a compatible bios that works with the onboard flash chip on that card people have been doing that for a while with the 4 Gig card and the 8 gig card and they've been doing that because the onboard GPU die is the same GPU die as the 580 just with a bunch of features disabled by firmware

[@PindleofKujata]

So it was either a short from the case, or perhaps the Wi-Fi card was the issue. I've seen instances of Wi-Fi cards in the PCIe 1X slots keeping a computer from booting for some reason.

[@pratikpramanik7782]

The problem was either a short in the case (cat hair?) or the AIO mount being torqued unevenly.

[@SirReptitious]

Damn, I think this is your best score yet; 160 pounds for a Ryzen 3600, B450 mobo and 570 8GB is amazing. And the small 120mm liquid cooler is a nice bonus. I even think that generic case doesn't look bad at all. I do disagree about you saying that 8GB of ram is the minimum acceptable amount though. 16GB is definitely the minimum in 2022, unless you only plan on ever playing old games on it. Your own footage showed Spiderman using 9.5GB of ram, and Elden Ring using 9GB, proving my point for me. I have 32GB in my main system, and even though it's usually using under 16GB with all my usual programs open, windows uses the rest as cache which is nice. And sometimes having 32GB really improves performance, like when multipar is repairing a huge rar file...

[@trr4gfreddrtgf]

For gaming, most games will be fine on 8gbs, 16gbs is probably the perfect amount right now. There is very little performance upgrade from 16gbs vs 32gbs, at least from what I've seen.

[@SirReptitious]

@@trr4gfreddrtgf Yes, there are tons of games that fit into 8GB just fine. But ram use and disk space use have only gone UP ever since the creation of PCs, so to make a gaming PC in 2022 with only 8GB ram is a bad idea. You're right about 32GB being overkill for now though; I think the only game that currently benefits from 32GB is MS Flight Sim 2020...

[@trr4gfreddrtgf]

@@SirReptitious Yea, 16gbs is the golden number right now. I can definitely see MS flight sim needing 32gbs though lol

[@crylune]

Too bad 120mm liquid coolers are terrible and sometimes get laughed at by 120mm tower coolers. AIOs only get good at 280mm or above, can't change my mind

[@SirReptitious]

@@crylune I agree. I only use air coolers, like the Hyper 212+ Evo I got on sale from newegg for like $15 after rebate when I built my current system about 8 years ago. Personally I won't take the small chance of being one of the people that get one that leaks. But I know that most people love CLCs, so getting that 120mm for free is a good thing because he can sell it.

[@Ne0ge0X]

Very good find m8, CEX etc often sell systems as "unfixable" and I hear that their IT technicians are not really technicians (SHOCKER) so they resell many systems really cheap that are often easily fixable by an average technician.. and if u know some minor soldering skills then u can make a very big profit buying and repairing these "unrepairable" machines, I don't think they are sold direct from CEX but by resellers usually in bulk, I've seen quite a few ppl get them and repair them, they don't say CEX on the but they have a unique plastic covering with unique "unfixable" sticker!!

[@damjanalt1019]

Where did you buy your case that is shown in 4:19 ??

[@Fernando-Rodriguez]

3:07 the dog sniffs at the PC says to itself "it's a strange cat, smells like it but it isn't" lol

[@YoridMNT]

Having people taking it apart might always cause a little dust or like old thermal paste, or whatever to get in the cpu socket. Which can create cases like this i would think, maybe not good contact, while you swapped the cpu it fixed itself i would guess. Keep it up with these amazing videos man! love your content :)

[@Unhandleablehandle]

Perhaps the ecu cooler wire? If it wasn’t seated right then it’d refuse to boot?

[@TheSpotify95]

"Don't lick the graphics card" - yeah, good advice. I don't know how, but cats and dogs can usually tell if anything (or anyone) has been in contact with another pet cat or dog. I know this from previously having a pet cat, and now having two pet cats.

[@JULEBOL]

Your dog is clearly an expert technician. He could sense the problem by smell.

[@tipd41]

Three months ago I bought a used i5 9600kf pc which was having the same issue like this pc I tried everything and everything worked by testing separately, then I again add the back side fan which was in the cabinet and again everything Stop to work, then again I removed the fan and pc was back to life, just a single fan wasn't allowing the pc to start.

[@Elinzar]

A short is a short and any pc would try their best to protect themselves against it, and fans are 12v so a short on one can be catastrophic so thank god that pc didnt blow a MOSFET when that happened

[@tipd41]

@@Elinzar yes brother

[@HillHomeGaming]

Having just yesterday put in a 3080 and having my system not boot - talking to several about that - and it turned out one of the two prongs on a 6+2 for power wasn't QUITE in all the way (though not out enough to trigger the red LED of "NO POWER")... maybe something just came lose over time. Might be a grounding issue. Maybe just a seating issue in general? But that would be my guess.

[@candidosilva7755]

If i were you i would update the bios on that thing some asus boards are going nuts with ryzen 3600. But yes probably you jumped the wrong pins and the reset was not made in a correct way. Or maybe some dust on the socket? Also dont know.

[@CharlySayz]

I've had the same motherboard the B450F for all my builds and upgrades through the years. I've just updated the bios and its worked great, I'm currently running a Ryzen 9 5900X with an Asus Tuf 5800XT GPU and it runs flawless on air. It will be a while before I upgrade :)

[@matthewchakera8366]

Quite possibly screws screwed too tight on the cpu socket. It's happened to me before. Great channel chap.

[@emenesu]

So there was a short on the motherboard (the pins on the back were touching the case because of a bad mounting or a loose cable). The refit fixed it.

[@janwitkowsky8787]

I'm thinking... a bad OC on both RAM and CPU? Mobo needed a "fresh" CPU/APU after a CMOS clearing to really settle it's settings, before being able to boot the R5-3600?

[@klausbc9316]

I think it could be a power supply cable plugged wrong, it doesn't make sense but sometimes solve the problem

[@Nate_the_Nobody]

What is it with people thinking single channel memory configs are proper for a gaming rig

[@oliknow]

not everyone has the knowledge and a background in this. they just wanna play games, can you blame them?

[@vinvinudu77]

Don't you think the shop scavenged all the parts they could easily sell ?

[@takehirolol5962]

Prebuilts...this is why.

[@SeeTheWholeTruth]

Especially an AMD system..

[@SilverX95]

@@oliknow you would think this would be a thing by now after 4 generations of DDR ram, 4! and soon to be 5 at this point these so called people must be living under a really really big rock.

[@darkmadrap]

1:49 i dont even have to guess , it litterally happened to me with my new core (cpu , ram , mobo) . it is an old mobo so the bios was outdated and didnt accept the ryzen 3600 . bios update and voila it just works , im i right ?

[@Dont-Evan-Bother]

The dog is clearly the brains behind this operation 😅 good woofer!

[@Brealiq]

I'm still running a Ryzen 5 3600 in my PC and love that CPU. Didn't see a reason yet to swap it, maybe for AM5? Combined with a RX 6900 XT and 32GB RAM. All custom watercooled in an ITX System.

[@youzernejm]

Recently hub did a 1080 vs rx 6600 comparison and, while comparable in old games, 6600 was in a different league in new ones. You have a Polaris card, maybe it would be interesting to see how well it's aged? Maybe less driver borkage allowed it to still be somewhat good?

[@pauld4564]

The Stockport Cash Converters is my go place for a mooch when my wife is shopping on a Saturday. I've never bought computer parts from them but I do have an unhealthy amount of old digital cameras to thank them for... :)

[@itsTyrion]

5:11 why do boards feed Ryzen CPUs so much voltage for no reason? If this thing DOESN'T run on 1.2V or less, I’d be surprised

[@crylune]

Because you have no idea how Ryzen architecture works. The chip requests high voltages on low & extremely low loads, can request up to 1.55v and be fine, because there's no AMPERAGE. High voltage + low amperage = all good. It's when you have high amperage that the high voltage becomes a problem. Third gen Ryzen and above don't have the same voltage requirements on low loads like Intels, nor the same behaviors. When the chip is under load, it goes down to under 1.3v as it should.

[@kieron88ward]

Once had a mouse find it's way into my case whilst escaping my cat. Ever tried getting a live mouse out of an ITX case? Not easy. PC still worked after I got the mouse out. Can't say the same for the mouse.

[@oshochso]

Does this CPU and MB support on-board GPU. I get the feeling the display-out was set to the on-board GPU and pulling the MB battery reset BIOS settings back to factory default which is usually auto mode for which interface to use for GPU.

[@Dead_Rabbit75]

Nice computer for a great amount of games and other stuff.. for that money its a nice deal. First when you noticed the Cat prints I thought a Cat had pissed in it ;) nice video glad it worked out great. Ps, love your dog, he has such a nice face with lovely ears. 🥰

[@zlatto]

Currently using a R5 3600. Good CPU, works fine with GTX 1070, 1080Ti. Might be good as well with RTX 3070, do you think so?

[@Vinmono]

I don't see why not.

[@crylune]

Why wouldn't it? CPU performance is insane lately, what we need is more GPU performance. Four 3090 Tis in NVLink wouldn't be enough to use up even half of my 5900X.

[@knightofvirtue613]

Great video. Thanks for explaining all steps taken while troubleshooting

[@zgoaty9235]

A couple posts mention cat hairs getting into critical areas of the motherboard which could very well have been the cause, but I can also make a guess that whoever owned the system last was playing around with CPU and memory OC’ing/tuning, dialed in some settings it didn’t like and BSoD’ed the MB. I’m almost certain taking out the CMOS battery and placing it back was the fix because my PC acted in a similar manner when I used settings that my MB didn’t like and I had to reset the BIOS using the Clear CMOS pins on my MB (a Gigabyte B550I Aorus Pro AX).

[@kc6sye]

Just saw another pc building video on something similar to this issue. The use of the wrong cpu mounting standoffs could be the root, in that video they showed that over compressing the cpu caused the first bank of ram to through an error. Some of the lines in the socket were over compressed and lost connection. Sorry I don't have a link handy for that video.

[@chronicle_4]

You should keep the 3600 and review it 5 to 10 years from now for perspective. It was the go to "pandemic" chip when everyone is stuck at home.

[@timothynolan7250]

Awesome buy! The memory slots were dirty!

[@AChrivia]

That's some fairly decent luck. I wouldn't be surprised if the original owner had it built over building it themselves or they would have saved it to troubleshoot it themselves and prevent losing a decent amount of money sunk into the thing.

[@GospelSami]

What kind of on screen monitoring software do you use? I like the visual simplicity of it, yet it gives some detailed information about what kind of gpu and cpu is in the system.