Ranking every Sims 4 pack for how cashgrabby they are (2023 Updated)

Sims 4 Tier List Ranking Every Sims 4 Pack... Based on how cashgrabby they are lol. I ranked every Sims 4 pack in 2023. This is a Sims 4 pack tier list in 2023.
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[@anthropomorphicpeanut6160]

People may say you are too negative but I love how honest you are. The bar is so low to almost every other Sims KZbinr lol

[@gemfem777]

It’s hard watching Simmers be not honest in their reviews because they want to continue to getting paid by EA

[@maxonite]

yoUrE sO nEgAtIvE AbOuT tHis $1300 gAmE

[@AnayaImari]

I subscribed to him so quick just because of his honestly! When he spoke about Seasons, I was LIKE PREACCHH!! I’m so glad I still haven’t paid for it because WHAAAAT? I love an honest person. I don’t want to waste my money when I feel like I already have! 😆😆

[@TheSlimmestJim]

Yeah he’s not negative, the game just sucks unfortunately 😅

[@AlexGonzalez-ys9uc]

I respect this guys Honesty he's made me carefully buy stuff and not waste my money

[@UniqueWithATwist]

The one ranking video I was waiting for. Thank you for voicing what the entire community is actually thinking.

[@richardsmith9704]

MFP stuff totally should've been a pack update for cats and dogs. But of course, EA said "we need more money"

[@SimsyHazel]

I'm proud of you Satch. You're my FAV sims youtube and I love when you overshare cause I do it too!

[@OnceUBellieve]

FINALLY! Someone's objective who calls out the packs : seasons and dream home decorator. I saw so many ppl saying those 2 are the best blablabla but they're not, they sucks. The only thing i disagree with is paranormal because it brings quite new few things like a career... and they asked the community about the theme.

[@Kalishua_Vtuber]

Imagine if there was hail or sandstorm with seasons (or more weathers according to each worlds)

[@OnceUBellieve]

@@Kalishua_Vtuber that would be amazing tbh

[@lishan4657]

DHD pack has literally ZERO gameplay. All it has is stuff - sectional sofas and modular shelving.

[@OnceUBellieve]

@@lishan4657 literally! And that for 20$ 🙄

[@soyeonsveggiez]

Ngl I only bought DMD for the stuff, cause when I bought it I basically only had base game and wanted more modern furniture. I love the pack for what it is, but it should’ve been a stuff pack.

[@SetsunaMaiou]

"This is a tier list about how cash-grabby they are, not about how broken they are." ... Do I sense an idea for another tier list here?

[@CassidysYT]

Finally someone says it! I feel like so many people consider Cats & Dogs essential for Sims 4, and I genuinely forget I have it all the time and always forget to have a pet, and then when I do, I'm reminded why I don't love it and it's because it doesn't compare to their previous Pets packs. I used Pets ALL the time in Sims 3 . Loved the horses, adored the countryside vibes of Appaloosa Plains (Brindleton Bay just can't compare imo), and overall I just liked the gameplay and experience more. Wish Cats & Dogs had just been Pets and was similar to Sims 3 Pets but oh well.

[@aliciacooper8662]

I just started playing the Sims 3 (with Pets) again and omg the pets are just so much more in depth! They have wants and aspiration points/ rewards, and you CAN CONTROL THEM (I completely forgot this was in-game) The Sims 4 could never 🙃

[@CassidysYT]

@@aliciacooper8662 I MISS being able to control them! It’s annoying in Sims 4 cause sometimes your pets just don’t do anything to fulfill their needs. They just sit there and whine or what’s super annoying is when they’re in heat. 🤦🏻‍♀️ I wanted to drop kick my Sim’s cat for her constant howling. FINALLY was able to get her fixed but still that part is horribly annoying. Since you are playing Sims 3, does it run better than it used to? I remember having to constantly save because it would crash ALL the time on me. I’d love to play it again, but not sure if it’ll do the same.

[@aliciacooper8662]

@@CassidysYT oh I hate when they're in heat in Sims 4! But I can never be bothered to go to the vets (or leave the house lol) because of the loading screens 😂 Sims 3 is working pretty well for me, it has crashed once while building and the furniture customiser tool (I can't remember the name of it) causes a bit of lag, but it's much better for me because of my gaming laptop. The old laptop I played it on was near impossible to play with the lag 😅

[@isaacsimpson8098]

@@CassidysYT For me them getting sick is the worst, Like I dont want to spend 10 hours in loading screen trying to take them to the vet, I pretty much only just them to stick them in background sims houses. They just dont add much to gameplay besides being annoying, why do you have to teach adult dogs how to potty? Like I get it if theyre a puppy and not house trained but come on.... I tried playing with a dog a bit ago and I had a woohoo bush from jungle adventures and for some reason the dog keeps fighting squirrels lol, mostly it wins, but it got bit once, it was fine, but now im wondering if had I had my first pet stuff it wouldve gotten that rabbid rodent disease, which probably was withheld from cats and dogs.

[@Daiska_Plays]

Agree with all except tiny living. It adds game play I'd hate not having, that wasn't in prior installments, as far as I'm aware. Plus it has great items. Although, I can see it could have just been added to base game as a lot type. But still not as cashgrabby as kits and some other packs.

[@12wer3wer9]

What gameplay is added in tiny living that wasn't present and possible in the past? 🤔

[@Daiska_Plays]

@@12wer3wer9 the tiny lot category with all the benefits with 3 tiers of tile numbers- 32, 64, 100. I never played 1 and 2, but I'm pretty positive 3 doesn't. I start almost every single new save in a tiny home.

[@12wer3wer9]

@@Daiska_Plays the tile restriction itself is new that's true, but in essence you can build tiny homes easily in TS3. You can even plop down the most miniscule lot wherever you want it to be, in between other lots or in the wilderness and have even more tiny lot freedom this way. I actually like what EA did with tiny lot's in TS4 though. 🤗😍

[@Daiska_Plays]

@@12wer3wer9 yeah but that's just visuals. No double relationship gains, no double skill gains, no reduced bills or double buff durations or double comfort.. I mean, it's a lot

[@12wer3wer9]

@@Daiska_Plays but isn't it already very easy to gain relationships, skills, money and so forth in this game? I remember having made friends without even trying to in the past just as an example. 😅

[@heartroll8719]

So many companies now a days are cash grabby. Like apps, pay 5 dollars for 200 coins or pay 10 dollars for 500 coins. You can’t play the app at all then which is really boring and sucks.

[@AudioAlure]

I know. I miss the days when you could just fully buy games 😞

[@LaurenElizabethYT]

So idk if I’m allowed to say/talk about this … but I just felt like putting it out there that it’s really easy to pirate (download for free) Sims 4 DLC. Someone called Anadius has a program that makes it easy to add all the DLC for free 👀 In general, I believe you should support and buy the games you play, but if someone is broke and still wants to enjoy a game, or in the case of a game that is aggressively overpriced… I personally don’t see a problem.

[@candyqueencandyqueen2689]

I was playing the sims 4 for a couple of days now and I was pretending(yes because that's what you can do) that my vampire sim was getting married to the resident playboy Don Lothario. For a while I was okay with the game and then I started to notice the laginess, it was annoying but I continued playing. Then I started taking pictures and I got frustrated because I learned their was no family photos and majority of photos were locked behind a pay wall. I got so unbelievably frustrated because it really felt cash grabby that they had photos locked behind a dlc. Then what made me straight up so angry that I didn't feel like playing anymore was realizing that no matter how much I pretended my sims relationships weren't that deep. What I mean by that is that Don Lothario was supposed to have a rocky relationship with my vampire sims father, because the father didn't really like his soon to be son-in law. Spoiler alert there's in base game that can help make their relationship seem rocky, other than buying the newest dlc growing together, because the sims team decided that players should pay for meaningful relationships. The icing on the cake was when I tried to do a basic basegame wedding cermony. There was no caterer(since the sims were vampires), no dj, no drinks nothing, but the arch and seats. The sims couldn't even do that simple task. At that point I lost all motivation to continue playing(there were a couple of other things I didn't mention), but all this to say I came to the conclusion that E.A. really loves cutting corners and then revisiting those corners and making you pay for them, it's frustrating. Sorry for the long rant.

[@dzizs03]

your rant is totally justified and I completely understand that sentiment. picture this tho, you actually do get those dlcs that are supposed to bring that depth you're looking for. except they don't. you get a bunch of new stuff in bb and cas, sure, some new gameplay features, but the feeling of emptiness is still there. bc the sims 4 is just that bad in its core. even with all those sentiments you get from growing together, you can still feel the sims' personalities and relationships being superficial, like a bandaid. in sims 2, almost 20y ago, you knew exactly how don lothario is, and his personality, history, memories, skills, relationships and actions ALL reflected that. the sims who knew him all seemed to know it as well and acted accordingly. you were able to get unique scenarios to play out depending on which path you choose for him in the game. sims was magic back in the day.

[@augusto7681]

​@@dzizs03 I played since sims 1 and while I aware sims 4 lack a lot of features of previous game I really dont feel relationship were more in depth. I feel they are the same.

[@wrrwrr4033]

Ooo I have get together, let me tell you that my sims still didn't have that in-depth relationship! 😂

[@MishelleRP]

5:55 If EA had to collaborate with Disney, they could have chosen the Tinkerbell saga and created fairies from each element they show, they could even have created a world where each neighborhood is for a different style for each fairy and its power, as well as creating at least two new festivities, such as the arrival of spring as in the first film and the arrival of winter with missions that we must do so that these festivities can be celebrated

[@gemfem777]

Eco Lifestyle is broken, if you’re trying to be an entrepreneur. Tasks don’t completely correctly when you’ve completed work tasks

[@miraiedits]

I agree with this list, but I think the Paranormal one is surprisingly good and has a lot of gameplay for a stuff pack, so I think it should have been put into a better tier :)

[@leaflenster7340]

Tbh I'd argue Paranormal isn't too cash grabby. It was actually really good for a stuff pack and with a bit more added to it could've been a solid game pack. Most of the other ones though, yeah, it's bullshit that things that were previously base game were made as paid DLC for S4. Dine Out imo is cash grabby simply for being a restaurant pack. Not sure why restaurants need to be paid for separately in a life simulator game, forget the fact that it was broken for its entire lifespan. Only recently did they start even fixing it. I love S4 (my first Sims game was Sims 2) but they really do upsell the dumbest things (dumb in the sense of it should not be paid DLC). Of course people buy the stuff because they want the full experience, but the packs aren't worth their base price. I only buy them on sale now. I think the only packs I actually bought at full price were Get Together and Outdoor Retreat, which was around when they were very new and back then I didn't know what we were getting for our money and there weren't really other packs to choose from. Granted, at the time I would say OR was worth it for me because I definitely got my use out of it at full price, and Get Together I probably at this point have used more than any other pack (including the world for it). I guess I'm lucky the first packs were actually pretty solid, because looking at everything we have now, there's no way at least half or more of them are worth full price. Like, 20 USD for an expansion pack I can handle. 40 though? For what we get out of it? Lelzies. I don't even know if I want Growing Together on sale because that pack in particular doesn't feel like it'd be worth 20 USD. I might buy it someday in the distant future when I have extra disposable income simply for the extra lots, but it'll be quite a while before I get it seeing as it's the latest pack and when the next one does come out, the one prior to it will only get a small discount.

[@andrew-song]

Honestly, Paranormal should be the precedent for future packs in terms of content to price ratio (whether they’re expansions, game packs, etc). There should be no reason something as mundane as laundry should be upsold as a stand alone pack, and not a feature of an expansion.

[@vanyadolly]

The worst thing with Dining Out (and other packs like it) is that they knew it was buggy from the start and just didn't bother to fix it. If you aren't getting what you're paying for, it immediately becomes a cash grab. Apparently my wedding stories still has several features that don't work, but consumers are supposed to be happy with paying for 80% functionality.

[@doutorbolado7887]

I hate how people say they don't want seasons, pets or even FAMILY related gameplay in the base game (do I need to remember The Sims is supposed to be a life simulator?) just because they wouldn't have much depth. Well, they actually should be free updates, not extra packs, that actually exists to add stuff like occults or vacation related themes (that aren't necessarily fundamental for a life simulation game). But yeah, people buy those shit, and Growing Together was actually a major hit among sells. So...

[@LeiUmbrella]

The first time I ever heard the word "cashgrabby" was when I watched a satch video. Thank you for introducing this word to me. HAHAH. I hope you're having a great day ^^ now I'm off to watch the video lezzgo

[@TrueNorthLocks]

I love your honesty, and your review style. Extra bit*hy Satch is my fav, I crack up at your delivery.

[@nicolebaggers7598]

Gonna flip this tier list around and start adding to my wishlist; thank you for sorting out the trash for us

[@n.a5309]

The cottage farm pack is actually so good!! I really recommend it!!

[@taylorswift13pt2]

The reason the sims gets away with a “weather” pack and a “pets” pack, because they have no competition. I am glad new life simulation games are coming out because they will be forced to let some of those things be free or they will loose all of their money and popularity.

[@jai07070]

I'm a big werewolf fan and love the grungy items and game play that this pack has. Better than most expansion packs. My one complaint is how they look. And could be much fiercer. I mostly use a mod that unfortunately doesn't integrate well with the pack. Your ranking is spot on!

[@jase6496]

In my wedding stories they showed cats and dogs walking down the aisle and a year later that still hasn't been fixed. It's really sad the trailer is a lie.

[@jellybaby4830]

I REFUSE to buy growing together I feel like it comes with nothing but what should be base game and it’s not worth the $60 here in Australia

[@Gingergent07]

Island Living was one of my favorites personally only because it felt like a true expansion pack to me. I COMPLETELY agree with this list.

[@plumfrogvic]

I'm actually playing with occults in TS3 right now and it's just so much better IMO. Yes, TS4 has skill trees for some occults, BUT they don't have one world where they can all harmoniously(or not so much) live together freely without human sims like TS3 Supernatural world allowed you to do. Everything just feels so ISOLATED in TS4.

[@Sp3ctralI]

I think one of the most interesting things is how *some* of the more cash grabby ones are the ones many liked and enjoyed, while the *some* of the less cash grabby ones were hated in general.

[@Manas-co8wl]

To be honest, I think it goes together. It’s so well liked and used _because_ it’s supposed to be part of the base game play and EA added it to feel like they’re being generous when really they’re just being cash grabby. The few good yet not cash grabby ones are rare yet they exist. I think Satch nailed it with City Living and Cottage Living. Eco-lifestyle was surprisingly to my taste, although it was controversial in the beginning.

[@aribellex]

I think what happened in terms of Batuu is EA had a contract with Disney for a Star Wars pack and their contract was coming to an end, so they whipped up whatever they could

[@JammSponge]

I regret buying seasons all it does is annoy me bc my game gets laggy when it snows or rains really badly and the holidays get in the way of stuff, the only nice thing from that pack is probably the beds or the shower, maybe the lights but that's it

[@bluefairywren]

I keep Seasons disabled 90% of the time and don't miss it. The rest of the time is when I'm just building not for gameplay use and want a particular item from that pack.

[@JammSponge]

@@bluefairywren Oh, I can't disable seasons because I play on console

[@madlybs]

That's definitely a unique approach for ranking the expansion. "Cashgrabby" - I don't believe I heard that expression before. It took me a watch and a half to understand what method you used to rank the expansions but I'm glad I got it! Thanks for your honest review. I think I'll go with Cottage Living, it's on sale.

[@pachimari3420]

Its funny because they could have very easily made My First Pet Stuff much less cash grabby, by simply expanding on the concept that is LITERALLY in the title of the pack. It would have been cute if people wanted pets but couldnt afford the 40$ pricetag. They could have added real fish, birds, turtles and even bunnies to that SP, instead of filing it with rejects from Cats and Dogs, and adding Cat and Dog clothes and accessories which is what ultimately makes it a DLC of a DLC (allegedly, in my opinion xD). It wouldve been adorable, but alas, the Sims 4 disappointed us AGAIN. No surprises there.

[@habarvaz3142]

okay just wanna say I REALLY want occults revamp with some kind of hybrid feature I've already had ideas and like add and change the current occultes like I think spellcasters need toi be able to create curses and if we get fairies and zombies like stuff witht hese idk

[@Waeva777]

"Sims4 is free to play" is it? I haven't been able to play in like 2 months cause of the change over from origin to EA play store lmao. Not being able to play a game I've bought sounds pretty cash grabby to me, I really wish EA would light a fire up their bum and fix it

[@Yorbelize]

I agree, that's why we should embrace the competition. If Life By You performs well then EA will have no choice but to do better

[@henner777]

The fact they don’t release sims 5 production promos is cash grabby.

[@mikaelahord8547]

I really enjoy your videos and how straight to the point they are ❤

[@SummerSims1]

This is why I subscribe. He is too honest and I love his honesty 😂😂❤❤

[@j.elizabeth4621]

The Moschino pack is my favorite stuff pack and there are a few things in the fitness pack I use in every build. I’m enjoying the build items in high school years but I rarely leave my lots so the go to school thing isn’t my jam.

[@exentine7693]

0:06 Only a few seconds in and we get to hear your laugh, it’s very cute 😳

[@vivi.sashimi]

i love your content so much lol

[@Manas-co8wl]

Eco lifestyle is one of those packs that was extremely controversial at first but then you grow into it. The build items I use all the time for modern/contemporary lots. And there’s surprisingly a lot to do with neighborhood/environment system for all worlds not just one.

[@mynameisntactually]

i know sims players know that its a cash grabby game, but i dont think we realise how exactly cash grabby it is the amount of content in all these sims packs is about the amount of content which in any other game, would be an update. except in the sims you have to pay for this update, which is just horrific. most games have 1 or 2 bits of dlc for about $20 each max, but the sims has so much because instead of making updates, it makes the update dlc. the constant releasing of packs also gives the illusion that we are getting regular updates, when the base game gets more or less no updates ever and the company is just so greedy, that you have to pay for the updates! big examples are growing together, discover university and high school years, which feel like they just add more content to whats already supposed to be there, not a whole new experience, which is what dlc is supposed to be. some of the only packs which i think could genuinely be dlc in a regular game is island living, jungle adventure, snowy escape and all the occults (if they were in one pack), because they are some of the only packs that actually add a whole new experience that doesnt just fix up rabbit holes or what could have just been a base game update, behind a pay wall. i think we could help stop it by not buying too many packs, and stop feeding their fat pockets

[@likepocketsjingling]

Would legit not be surprised if a "Sims 4 Mermaids" game pack that you need Island Living for came out xD

[@jadesoland7922]

That top tier category name couldn't be more fitting 😂😂

[@CremeAigre]

I love this ranking xd

[@lvmomma46]

I'm so happy someone says it like it is. I'm one of those who bought every single expansion, pack, stuff, etc. for Sims 3 and swore not to do that with Sims 4. I'm doing OK with that so far. I don't have and won't buy Battu but have the rest. It's the kits I totally disagree with, however I did buy points in Sims 3 to do the same thing, but you could buy the ONE THING you want, not 5 US dollars for one thing you want and 8 you don't. And if I didn't like the color of something, I could create my own, and if I didn't like the world... I could create my own!

[@treefrog1018]

I disagree as Paranormal being cash grabby. In fact, I would put it in the second tier. $10 ($7 on sale) for people who REALLY want Paranormal. ROM, Vampires, and Werewolves would be just as equally not cash grabby if they were all $5 game packs (which is why Paranormal is in the 2nd tier). I don't want Vampires and Werewolves but Spellcasters and Ghosts. I'd pay $10 for two occults I want. That's $30 for all the occults (if you count Mermaids and Aliens) for EA to mooch off their players. $35 if they ever add Faeries. Best deal: Make Base Game an Occult World that has nothing in it unless you buy the packs. (I just want worlds to build in)

[@maxonite]

I heard that paranormal stuff is actually very good and feature packed though. I mean, it was the last stuff pack they ever did and *allegedly* EA decided it was too good value so they launched kits

[@macy-fg7ck.]

Ngl, if parenthood was made and released in 2023 then they would probably sell it as an expansion pack lol

[@millyvice4423]

Sims 2 was never cash grabing or am I missing something?

[@brownsugar15068]

I respect this video!!! ❤

[@ViceCityExtra]

I wouldnt put city living in lowest cause we cant even build our own apartments…

[@Fiemus9]

I agree with all of it except Paranormal. I would recommend that pack to anyone. Basically just a cheap GamePack! It has gameplay and nice CAS and BB. Whats not to like?

[@Aurora-lj4gu]

How I think of kits is the sims 3 shop. It's literally so similar, therefore I can't get mad at it.

[@GreenVenus]

As a builder, my opinions are very different! Like I love many of the kits. I didn't even realize some of the things you mentioned were broken because I never used them in Live Mode 😅

[@cheesecakelasagna]

Same. If the Live Mode isn't so loading screen-fest or buggy, I'd like to not be just all (cas/lot) builder 😅😅

[@letitianaidoo4267]

So happy that Cottage Living got placed there

[@daniluv2696]

love you videos!!! i do have an update dine out actually works better!! i am sooo shocked but they did an update and it works better ! Carls dine out is still faster lol

[@mooonsi323]

To me the most glitchy are horses now, and from career - the ghost hunter career. I can't play it. Once my client live in the flat my sim go there and either they stuck in the flat, they get worse at work because they can't catch all ghosts as some spawn in the area with no access to my sim or game freeze. Never had problems with dine out until I started add mods with scripts to my game recently so I decided to remove them and keep only mccc that I always had with no issues.

[@kimberlwallce7723]

my teen automatically graduated from high school without giving me a choice n i didnt even get to enjoy the high school pack

[@rahmel2009]

I literally never use Romantic Garden except the hairstyles.

[@dantrianon4248]

You tell it how it is, support!

[@Karrdeh]

Where would you rank Ranch? Youre my guide when it comes to pack buy order (if at all).

[@MishelleRP]

6:08 I don't know about the others, but I feel that if EA was forced to make a game due to the agreement it had with Disney, they could have chosen another series that served better or adapted the sims, for example Tinker Bell, and the fairies for the game do not attract my attention, however, I feel that due to the history of the world they would have so many options to carry out with the theme that each fairy has a power in specific, even the world could be divided into neighborhoods that are related as the fairies of flowers, light, water in a region, the fairies of animals and construction in another and finally those of wind and snow in another región (In my mind the wind fairies would go with the snow fairies because winter usually starts with freezing blizzards), also they could have even made a festival that shows the beginning of spring like in the movie and another festival for the beginning of winter, I don't know something like that, But the company ended up choosing Star Wars for the pack that doesn't match the game at all

[@shaunholt]

I think the worst thing is the game is totally an ad for a theme park. If you're doing Star Wars in Sims, do all the costumes from the series for Create A Sim, have an X-wing and a TIE-fighter for vehicles (well, won't matter much for Sims 4), have the Millennium Falcon as a residence, have pre-built characters e.g. Luke, Han, Leia, Anakin, Jar-Jar. Have lightsaber duels and laser tag. Have an Empire career track, Rebel career, Smuggler career. And then maybe have a Batuu vacation world. But I know that's far too much effort and content for EA. But it'd actually be liked by fans, and that means people would want to buy it.

[@jordangrigorov]

I think you've made a mistake with Paranormal Stuff though. It's not cashgrabby at all considering it's a stuff pack and has plenty of gameplay

[@tmf866]

Batuu: It's too expensive and not well implemented. It's just like part of Disney World. If you like Disney World and you want your sims to visit it, if you can get it at a good sale price it may be worth it for that. I got it on sale, and I sorta like it for what it is - and I knew what I was getting when I bought it. Some of the CAS is fun, some of the build stuff is fun, I sorta enjoy seeing it, and I sometimes have my sims go for drinks at the bar there. I'm not gonna say it's very good, but if you know what you're getting and there's a good sale, it may be worth it to you.

[@cattyrellium6401]

you crack me up lol

[@thegrumpyhorticulturist]

Bust the dust should've been included in laundry day

[@hyenaholicproductions9033]

I don't think Paranormal is grabby. It provides stuff that you just can't do in other packs. And it's just great with items, and a job, and a whole new lot time...

[@Hilary0o]

So far I have only seasons, cottage living and eco lifestyle ✨

[@bobisapanda2655]

Tier list based on cas please ?

[@jippothetherian]

Can you make one of these where you dont compere to the sims three theyre 2 different games.

[@pnutqpublic]

i love this video even if i disagree with A LOT of it. to be fair though, most of my disagreements are rooted in the fact that i'm playing the sims because i want to build and you play for gameplay. but i still love this and a lot of your videos because of the fact that you don't hesitate to criticize EA even if it costs you those sweet sweet Simoleans.

[@isaacsimpson8098]

growing together is one of the worst I think, like I can just tell how tempted they were to lock infants behind the pack. And honestly they might aswell have done because of how useless they are in base game, like I did not want for my sims to leave baby bottles and diapers (because there's no base game changing table) all over the floor, and a new life stage thats basically a more annoying baby is just not needed. I feel like they only put infants in as a teaser to try get people to buy it to fix them. One of the most annoying things is the top-notch infant trait, which base game seeing as they have no milestones, you get it instantly and for some reason it seems to glich out the top-notch toddler trait, so you can't earn that unless you cheat it on.

[@heddelviven]

Dine Out got fixed right? So maybe a little less cashgrabby now?

[@caitlinwheeler7915]

Growing together being released right after infants was extra cash grabby bc they knew that they were making infants deliberately boring so if you wanted to do all the fun stuff with them you’d have to buy the pack (and probably let us get confused ab what was part of the free update and what was part of the EP on purpose)

[@melissalonla]

Why the Seasons hate, Satch 😂😂 It was an expansion pack in the Sims 3 as well

[@Mikaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Honestly I think next year should be the year of reworks (having it being a ten year anniversary) , giving packs more content, fixing gameplay, and listening to the customers , OR having modders come to ea team .

[@tripleabattery2914]

I think no dlc pisses me off more than pets. It's the sims 2 pets for gamecube but even worse. How you manage to have something worse now compared to something that barely worked nearly 20 years ago is beyond me.

[@mortal-enemy]

Even though I agree that weather shouldn't be DLC, I'm glad it is because I simply do not want weather in my Sims games. Why on earth would I ever want it to be raining, overcast, snowing, storming or just generally miserable in my little escapist world? I can't be doing with that, how annoying.

[@thegpshowtheshow]

I think i would prefer the sims 4 be more expensive but just have everything

[@stonersiren]

the issue with kits is: ts4 started with an insane amount of DLC, especially stuff packs, but in exchange they got rid of the annoying cashgrabby sims 3 store. now with kits, sims 3 store is basically back, because i guess EA missed how much money it made them

[@missdukette2168]

I don't agree with everything... but you do make so damn good points

[@drizzetb]

Tbh dlc for dlc is one thing, but spooky stuff and seasons having duplicated items but with different swatches is what gets me fuming every autumn 😤

[@CalebXXX-uj2sh]

I wish the sims 4 was Multi player and able to be on mobile.i know we have sims mobile and sims freeplay but is not the same 😢

[@matthewvp8507]

Thank you for not pandering to the EA bootlickers. I wish more of the sims community realised they’re in a toxic relationship with the sims 4. It’s insane how much they’re rinsing everyone 🤦‍♂️

[@flyingfridgezzz7347]

I had parenthood on my XBox and bought Growing Together on my computer and literally Parenthood had more gameplay than Growing Together. Ridiculous.

[@chl0eztota]

you want weathers? 30 pound pleaseee xxxxoxoxoooo

[@rrruby1377]

Im so obsessed with building and playing, I have a ton of free CC from all the great artists like heyharrie and on top of that, I low key want to own every whatever pack by EA as well. I refuse to support broken packs though. Not buying the wedding pack until they fix it, not even on sale. FIX IT EA!

[@AnnaMae41194]

i care much less about "gameplay" thank every other type of gameplay in this game, i love building i love making things and doing shit like making money (which is easy af) and i only really play chalenges and premade storylines and i use cheats more than real gameplay.

[@lishan4657]

Paranormal stuff pack in 5th cash grabby category, why? 🥺

[@TrashBinSouvenir]

I just hate that it feels like everything on the gallery needs everything.. which is what upsets me. :(

[@JAS0N_M00RE]

It would be amazing if they made Sims 5 free and just sell the DLC for money

[@opp282009]

Sims 2 was honestly best sims game. The Sims 3 was pretty good. Sims 1 was fun enough to draw you in. Sims 2 expanded on it. Sims 4 is all Sims 1, 2, 3 all pieced together in smaller expansions to get your money

[@LuYunong]

The sims 4 feels like a mobile pay2win game lol

[@treefrog1018]

I bought Cats and Dogs and rarely use cats and dogs. Sad. I don't regret it because I love the world and it is nice to see animals around in the world. Cats and Dogs needed to be a pack along with Cottage Living, Nifty Knitting, and My Second Pet Shit.

[@sadpixel532]

A lot of games has DLC for DLC lol

[@Simulant655]

Dine out was my biggest disappointment, I don’t get how Carl can do it but EA can’t. I wish I could get a refund, cause I’ve literally never been able to play it. I don’t like to play with mods because it effects my save file.

[@Miluielle]

Lol I disagree but mostly in regards to Satch's more favourable choices. Spa day - even after the refresh it's still to me a very bleh pack for gameplay and should have been a stuff pack. City living is window dressing - the festivals are empty, irritating events. I wouldn't put it at the bottom but certainly not on Cottage living level perhaps down a few. Also Get together deserves more love than it ever gets. It's world, it's build and I mean architecture and the clubs are all very expansion pack worthy.

[@treefrog1018]

Growing Together is absolutely Level 5b Cash Grabby. Level 5a is just for My Second Pet Shit for being DLC for DLC. Growing Together is a whole different field. 😆

[@fruity4820]

Kits are like the Sims 4 equvlent of cosmetics. They are cool to have but dont need them. Especially when there is so much cc out there thats basicly fufill the same perpuse

[@thegpshowtheshow]

That alkward moment when you realise most of the packs you own are rated cash grabby…..😅 I got it on sale though

[@BayFierce]

You're hilllllllllllarious 😂

[@lvmomma46]

Forgetting the cashcrabby price of packs, when will someone say something about the build/buy price of items. For example 110 simoliens for a trash bin! A kitchen trash bin. They are like 10 bucks.