Ranking the Jedi Council From Weakest To Strongest (Prequel Era)

[@muhamedquraishi]

Personally I would think that Obi Wan Kenobi is proof that any force wielder can become more powerful than what his force potential would allow much like how any normal person in the real world surpassing a certain limit.

[@muhamedquraishi]

@@Insider887 Believe me I have imagined.

[@carlousmagus5387]

Happy Birthday to you, and many many many Happy Returns!

[@muhamedquraishi]

@@carlousmagus5387 🙏🏻

[@Frosty98206]

Valid Point(💯).

[@lampad4549]

No, not any person in the real world can surpass certain limits, it's fine to think that it makes people feel good but that's not the reality, certain people are born with tools that make more profficient and talented than someone who we could call normal. No matter how hard people trained from birth they will be talented as magnus Carlson, michael Phelps, lebron james etc.

[@ultimatebladelock5212]

We’ve been waiting all this time in anticipation for you to explain why Coleman Trebor solos the rest of the council, thanks Evan!

[@robertgeorge4602]

Coleman Trebor is the Yamcha of SW. He either solos the rest of the council, or curb stomped by Liam the Padawan.

[@Mecceldorf]

And he trains for 7 years in anticipation of his greatest trial only to roll his ankle when he steps onto the field.

[@PINK.FRIDAY2]

It’s a crime that we never had a shaak ti and ahsoka episode

[@godisjihyo3615]

my 2 favs

[@liamh8926]

So racist. Typical human thinks all Togruta should know each other somehow. Do better.

[@rudolphantler6309]

@@liamh8926 Thy dared assume xim's species!?!?

[@DropkickNation]

Enough pr0n with them together.

[@kylejohnson3889]

@@DropkickNationand it’s awesome…..uh or so I’ve been told by…..people 😅

[@gyrfalcon7332]

Yoda knew Obi Wan would likely have some level of psychological advantage over Anakin. I’m sure he also surmised that Anakin’s hubris would be significantly magnified. Yoda also knew that Obi Wan had absolutely no advantage over Sidious.

[@thomasc2680]

Obi-wan only beat Anakin because of his 15 year head start in training in the force, equalizing the gap in raw potential. Also, well, Anakin was going through some s*** at the time.

[@squil_liam]

Shaak-Ti is one of my favorite Jedi Masters, so it's cool to see her power scaling in this video. I like her style of mixing forms two and four, in a sort of ebb and flow to her attack and defense. She blitzes, and then when she can't get an opening or gets tired, falls back into defensive alterations of the attacking forms. Always offensive, but with variable explosiveness. Plus, Tutaminis is probably my favorite force ability.

[@Jiambo]

Neat fact that maybe you know maybe you dont... Shakti is the closest word meaning "force" in Hindi

[@JakeMook]

So glad to see you still passionate about Star Wars after all these years. Your videos serve to me as a sort of contentment, the productions quality is high, yet the "feel" of the video is nostalgic in a sense. Thanks for the video Evan, keep the content rolling so long as you enjoy making these videos.

[@muhamedquraishi]

This is the best birthday present you could’ve given me. Thanks 🙏🏻

[@lakithchandra8901]

Happy Birthday

[@ultrashadow9551]

Happy birthday my guy.

[@darylsdesigns6679]

Happy birthday and May the Force be with you

[@Aggarius]

Happy birthday stranger

[@Wes_Bradley-Taubner]

Happy Birthday

[@fashizzle78]

Mace Windu is Master of the Jedi order for good reason what other Jedi can go borderline darkside whenever they had to and never fall to it completely

[@Aztechaemenid]

I would LOVE an NJO Jedi Council ranking video. That would be crazy amazing, hope thats something you'll be able to work on soonish.

[@tjm11015]

Idk, but I've always been team Plo Kloon. The guy has always been underutilized. He's a beast of a pilot, strategist, force user, and lightsaber duelist. I want more.

[@mitchellbecker610]

Today I learned Stass Allie and Adi Gallia were two different characters lol 😂…

[@nessyno-name3855]

Me too, I was SO confused for a minute there.

[@nessyno-name3855]

Same with Eeth Koth and Agan Kolar. Why does the Jedi Council have multiple sets of 'twins'?

[@landrybruder]

@@nessyno-name3855I think it has something to do with the prequels’ reshoots. Like there’s some sort of logistics issue that left them just being lazy enough to use old character builds I think.

[@CalvinBremer-l6t]

Finally… some Shaak Ti respect

[@FriendlyBatDoom]

Love the respect for Mace 👍👍 The initials on his Lightsaber says it all.

[@highonsugar6273]

From my point of view I feel like Adi Gallia was more skilled at fighting than Savage Opress, however she was fighting against a much bigger and physically stronger opponent which made it difficult for her to overpower him in any way

[@DoctorBored357]

Agree completely. Savage already had an incredibly strong natural connection to the Force. Combine that with him being amped up by the Nightsister Magic equivalent to steroids, he was basically a walking tank once he gained a bit of training. Adi, despite being a very capable and and experienced duelist was clearly thrown off by how her physical attacks were having no affect on him. This surprise also allowed the less experienced brute to use his greater strength to defeat her. Had Gallia been able to recover from her shock, she may have been able to outsmart Savage and eventually defeat him like Obi-Wan would later do. Or maybe not. Maybe she was doomed from the start. Sadly, we'll never know

[@elijahalbiston]

Agreed, can't add much that Doc hasn't already noted, but I do want to mention that her death was more brutal than she deserved. Savage was truly a beast. Imagine what Maul and Savage would be capable of if their other brothers were alongside them.

[@KartarNighthawk]

She's overmatched by Grievous in much the same manner in the other continuity.

[@gabrielcanejo187]

I Will ALWAYS Remember Yarael Poof Thanks to Robot Chicken! Especially for being the ONE Jedi in the council who had the balls to call out Yoda and Mace for basically talking all the important decisions themselves/getting all the screen time besides Obi.

[@mrrobovter4535]

Thank you for keeping the Legends Lore alive. Your videos are great, man!

[@RichardHunslet1963]

*Expanded Universe lore

[@nickcasillas1618]

Really great seeing my Boy Plo Koon ranked in the top 5 (of the prequel era) He’s awesome, the best of what the Jedi could be in a time when the Jedi were increasingly misguided. He’s kind, gentle, caring for people’s emotions and attachments, and strong to boot. Always love seeing him get respect.

[@pufferfancyfish]

I mean come on he’s a crab man and as we all know crabs are the peak of evolution

[@joseabreu-nn5cu]

If Plo Koon wasn’t betrayed he would’ve been top 3

[@DarthBalsamic]

You have no idea how refreshing this is along with your overall content, among a small few I follow, who have nothing to do with or are shilling for Disney SW. I appreciate the work and effort greatly.

[@thefilmwatcher1302]

I’ve always admired how he’s either completely ignored the canon split or just worked with it without diminishing either side. I think I’ve only seen one dig at Disney from him, in a community post.

[@DarthBalsamic]

​@thefilmwatcher1302 I don't necessarily think he has to diminish Disney at all. The best way to do it is to either don't acknowledge them at all or acknowledge them very little. There's a guy who has done a special with this one who just got it out of the way one day and said he'll never cover Disney on his channel, expressed his disgust, and moved on. I go about it by doing the same. I despise Disney SW personally. I don't even see it as SW at this point. Instead of harping on it, which is a waste of time and energy, I simply don't acknowledge its existence. I'm going through the Vector Prime saga right now, and enjoy videos like this at my leisure. My circle for SW content is very small and none of them discuss Disney. I know content guys who hate what Disney is doing, and rightfully so, who love SW, but wine incessantly about it. The wining and complaining about it, which accompanies having to comb through Disney's slop, is also terrible and annoying. I unsubscribe from them too, or completely ignore the content that does it. I myself refuse to rant about it anywhere. It isn't worth it. I just watch and laugh as the foolishness continues with Disney desecrating the corpse of its own property that they're losing insane amounts of money on. Legacy fans, who were the reliable, generational paying customer, have long moved on and are completely apathetic.

[@thefilmwatcher1302]

@@DarthBalsamic Well, I’d certainly believe that your circle is small, considering the big SW KZbinrs aren’t real SW fans. LOL. They’re just Disney shills who want attention from sucking off mainstream media. The smaller KZbinrs are the bigger fans because they go deeper into it. They actually care about the content that made it so big; not just what’s happening right now.

[@ThatDragonGuy]

> The best way to do it is to either don't acknowledge them at all or acknowledge them very little. Why should he? Just because YOU hate Lucasfilm Sta Wars doesn't mean every youtuber on this planet has to bend to your will. > There's a guy who has done a special with this one who just got it out of the way one day and said he'll never cover Disney on his channel, expressed his disgust, and moved on. Sounds like he's a whiny baby who's mad that his toys don't work anymore. 30 Years of legends content and people are STILL whining. Some people just never grow up lol. > I despise Disney SW personally. I don't even see it as SW at this point. How is it not Star Wars? What a silly ass take. It has the same exact characters and rules as "Legends". > Vector Prime saga right now, Ah right, the Vong, aka the shitty Slaanesh Daemon/Tyranid Hybrids that ruined what should've been the New Jedi Order's rise to fame. > The wining and complaining about it. Which you are doing RIGHT NOW. > I myself refuse to rant about it anywhere. You are doing it right now. > I just watch and laugh as the foolishness continues with Disney desecrating the corpse of its own property that they're losing insane amounts of money on. Each sequel movie AND Rogue One made a billion at the box office. > Legacy fans, who were the reliable, generational paying customer, have long moved on and are completely apathetic. Paying for what? And they aren't fans, they are just whiny assholes that refuse to accept change and/or are boomers that yell at clouds when they don't get their own way. > or are shilling for Disney SW. Bro, the corporation doesn't care about shills. Grow the FUCK up.

[@thefilmwatcher1302]

@@ThatDragonGuy Shhhh…

[@TheAncientSith]

Glad to see my boys Mace and Plo getting some love.

[@theoofshow69420]

I wanna mention something important for yoda Yoda won the duel against Sidious and stalemated him in the force. He only retreated because he was knocked further down and Sidious was calling clones to back him up because he knew he couldn't beat yoda fairly. In fact if you do some research, the cut version of yoda vs Sidious shows Sidious literally retreating from yoda.

[@scottb3034]

Exactly, Yoda is the strongest Jedi or Sith in Star Wars history (since Anakin never got to his peak) and that duel proved it.

[@mrceraixDD]

in the book for the 3rd episode, the fight is discribed as a fight between the brightest light and the darkest darkness, no longer just being a duel between sidious and yoda and yoda himself comes to the conclusion that his light isnt enough to overpower the darkness so he retreats and stated that he failed - his ultimate mission, his whole life as a jedi - but wouldnt surprise me if sidious also noticed his darkness isnt enough to overcome yodas light

[@scottb3034]

@@mrceraixDD Stover used a lot of artistic license to flesh out the skeletal information provided by the script he was given to write from. He couldn't write a 400 page novel if he didn't embellish or change things to make it fit a novel format. From what's shown on screen (and even moreso if gleaning the deleted scenes) Yoda dominates Sidious in almost every way throughout the fight.

[@mrceraixDD]

@@scottb3034 but wasnt the novel approved by george lucas himself? stover said in an interview that he did work with lucas while writing it is also mentioned that sidious did feel vader being in danger so he didnt want to continue the fight ofc its hard to show the inner thoughts of the characters on a movie screen and in my opinion the novel did a great job by adding them in and creating more depth while doing so i also thought the only one that officialy did win against sidious was windu, without a surprise due to its lightsaber form vaapad, making him the perfect match against any dark lord

[@scottb3034]

@@mrceraixDD You will learn this very quickly by research or by others in the know but George not only didn't do much approval personally but he also was very, very lax regarding anything that wasn't his movies. He basically gave the greenlight to his managers at Lucasarts, Lucasbooks, Lucas Licensing, etc to approve basically everything. He doesn't care all that much about the EU, his first and only priority to him were his films. The one who ACTUALLY approved the novelization was Lucas Licensing Print Editor Sue Rostoni who managed all the Lucas novels and comics published by Dark Horse and Del Rey during the 90s and 00s. Lucas might have given her guidelines to advise authors on what could or couldn't be discussed in a novel but he didn't sit down and read every novel front to back to make sure it met his approval. And yes Stover worked with Lucas, he kind of had to because he was working based on the finalized script Lucas wrote for ROTS...but that doesn't mean it was particularly collaborative or that he looked over his shoulder. It was probably a general Q&A with questions like "Is it okay if I just completely ignore Yoda's story on Kashyyyk and most other characters stories to focus on Anakin, Obi-Wan, Palpatine and to a lesser degree Padme?" or "Is it okay if I go with this narrative device to describe Anakin's fear and angst?" etc... And probably not as much "Hey what was Yoda thinking just before he escaped the Senate and Palpatine?" The broad strokes more than the minute details. Writers always had a lot of breathing room to create their own inner monologues for characters in Star Wars, Lucas Licensing gave a lot of flexibility. They had a lot of freedom to fill in the cracks that the narrative didn't. In a way they were the ideal company to write licensed characters for since they were a sandbox under Lucas. I believe Mace is the only one directly stated by Lucas to have beaten Sidious (i am rusty on the commentary and don't remember what Lucas spoke of during the Yoda/Sidious duel) but the onscreen evidence spoke pretty loudly that Yoda had the upperhand for the majority of the fight. He ultimately never put sidious in a clear loss position like Mace but he controlled the saber duel and visibly won the Force clash...that said it ultimately was a draw because Yoda was disarmed and neither combatant was killed or injured.

[@jonnie7891]

Let’s gooo!!! Thanks for always keeping us updated and delivering as promised. Great video as always. It was worth the wait.

[@brokenknight4938]

This video is just fantastic, I do think with the absolute ridiculous nerfs and amps that Depa had over mace makes that feat nearly mute, I’d say Ki adi’s feats and more importantly statements implying he’s on par with plo koon and a genuine threat to Palpatine’s plan puts him above. Also Shaak is directly stated as inferior to Cin Drallig in the temple during order 66 and only landed those hits to GG when she wasn’t exhausted. Mundi also gained more kills in direct competition to anakin in the second battle of Geonosis. Other then that it’s literally a perfect scale in my honest opinion very very well done

[@majortughjedi9813]

Makes me happy that after all these years you still are keeping the Legends Continuity alive Evan Nova. Its been over 10 years since I discovered this channel back when I was first was doing my EU Legends binge.

[@Aggarius]

My favorite part about F tier is that they are the rank of master yet anakin isnt

[@scottb3034]

Technically Ki-Adi wasn't either...until Attack of the Clones.

[@WoodsP51]

Plo Koon is/was probably the most underused Jedi in canon. It was good that they gave him a larger role TCW, but he should have had more presence in the films too. He was like the last of what the Jedi have been / were long ago. He and Qui-Gon, probably Babylon Skoll too, could have made kick-ass new order light-grey Jedi - not quite as on the fence as most greys, but not as myopic as the Jedi.

[@herpderp5727]

Wait, does that mean Shaak Ti wasn't amped by the force energies of Felucia? Given that Felucia was said to be strong in the dark side and Shaak Ti was the reason the planet didn't fully succumb to its corruption, wouldn't that mean that Shaak Ti was actively or (more impressively) passively fighting off the influence of a planet scale dark side nexus? By contrast, as a dark sider (at this point in time) Galen Marek could've likely been amped by the dark side energies of Felucia. So, potentially, a strained Shaak Ti was fighting an amped Galen Marek and only barely lost because of luck. Wow.

[@rschweri578]

Yea definitely the most powerful female jedi in the old order

[@2NE1STEPO]

My queen!!!

[@LukeTansiongco]

She has that *DAWG* in her bro I'm telling you, an underrated powerhouse and character in the franchise

[@kirtmanwaring3629]

​@@rschweri578 I wouldn't go that far, certainly the most powerful in the Clone Wars and, more importantly, she knew how to leverage the power she had. Still she’s not stronger than Sateel Shan, the Jedi Exile, maybe even Nomi Sunrider.

[@Hollywoohorse]

Everybody has been sleeping on Shaak Ti for years and I'm so glad she's finally getting some respect on her name. As soon as Vader got to the temple he immediately asked where she was bc he knew for a fact she was the only one with a chance of beating him. And yes so much of her strength was being used to hold Felucia in the light that there's no way she could have gone all out against Galen. In the graphic novel the only way he even killed her was by stabbing through himself to get her too

[@HatsStayUnited]

Though I respect the idea that Jedi get more powerful as they age, I think in Yoda’s case at least, his prime might have actually been before the prequel era. It makes sense that Shaak Tii and Ben Kenobi grew more powerful after ROTS, but you also gotta understand that they were only in their mid 60s and late 50s respectively, while Yoda’s body durring the time of the OG trilogy was that of a 90 something year old man and had gotten very weak and sick (he was effectively sustaining himself through the force to train Luke. Even in ROTS Yoda was in his late 800s and relatively speaking didn’t have that much longer to live. My idea is that Yoda between the age of 600-700 was at his MOST powerful given that he didn’t have to sustain his body so heavily with the force, and was even stated to be able to life all 7 of the (I forgot the name so I’ll just call them mediation stones) while in Mediation. Thanks for considering my view and reading my comment!

[@chandansimms9167]

It’s not that they get more powerful as they age but that they are able too continue learning new skills and honing their power through the years whereas the dark side of the force pretty much let’s you access all of you’re current potential. So if yoda reached his force potential after a few hundred years the additional hundred years would not make a difference aside from learning new techniques/skills

[@user-lp8im7ow8s]

Nothing really suggests that other than That one entry in the Jedi Path , other than that , Yoda grew stronger in the force so much so he could fight an early Vader, we know the scaling going on for Vader so it doesn't mae sense for him to have been more powerful in his youth , more capable physically sure but definitely not more powerful

[@justinperry2182]

Thanks for putting this out Evan. The passion you put into your work shows and it's always nice to see more content from you.

[@zedbruh7212]

mace staring down palpi one of the coldest moments in jedi history XD Put the fear in the old man

[@darthcyon]

Agreed on all characters and opinions. Your Ben Kenobi analysis especially had me smiling because I've always been of the opinion that Ben was very high in the tiers. Good work Evan!

[@Kolac15]

Glad to see you continue to both release and consistently improve your content with every video! Thank you for everything you do, Evan!

[@idiot_city5444]

When Obi says, "Send me to kill the Emperor," you know he's at the top

[@DoctorBored357]

Finally someone shows some love to Yarael! Ever since I was a kid and saw that brachiosaurus bobblehead vibin in the background of TPM, I've tried to learn about him as much I can. Though a part of me has always been kinda disappointed that he's not as whimsical as childhood me might've hoped. There's a small part of me that's always thought he should only speak in riddles lmao

[@MattyPan118]

Personally, I think the quotes are better for Anakin. Even Mace Windu thinks Anakin as stronger/equal

[@gevarradesmon1999]

Indeed. “Skywalker is arguably the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger.” - Mace Windu, ROTS Adult novel The man is explicitly stating Anakin is stronger than everyone including him now and is clearly getting stronger

[@KartarNighthawk]

@@gevarradesmon1999 Worth noting is that Mace, as written by the same author in Shatterpoint, doesn't consider himself especially powerful. Up against Kar Vastor, Mace reflects that Vastor is younger than he is, physically stronger than he is, and has more Force power than Mace has ever had. Which is why when Mace has to finally put him down he uses a combination of skill and a surprise attack to do it. Mace doesn't view himself as exceptionally powerful in terms of raw Force potential; it's his experience, tactical prowess, and mastery of Vapaad that make him so damn confident.

[@117crap]

I’ve to see Rancisis and Kolar getting some well needed love and recognition.

[@Handyrandy2233]

I love that canonically,old Ben does better against vadar then starkiller ever did,

[@jameshaygreen6400]

Because starkiller isn’t canon….?

[@Handyrandy2233]

@@jameshaygreen6400 in legends he is

[@Comrade2261]

​@@jameshaygreen6400He is in Expanded Universe Canon. Not disney canon.

[@thirdplanet4471]

Ben did teach Anakin after all

[@rs07scapeNews]

Legends isnt canon even if i wish it was

[@MasonNoThumbs]

I’m gonna defend Coleman Trebor a bit, he was a defensive master and a diplomat he likely went to engage Dooku to try and de escalate the situation and was simply caught off guard by how quick of a shot Django actually was. Credit to him he was a Soresu master and knew Dookus skill with Makashi and was likely going in by himself to hold off Dooku to protect other Jedi from engaging him and dying if the negotiations failed

[@lincolnholocinski-francis9063]

I love Trebor, but if he was going to negotiate, why would he have his saber out?

[@MasonNoThumbs]

@@lincolnholocinski-francis9063 show of force with no real plan to use it

[@christophervanasse9911]

Literally the nerdiest shit I’ve ever watched. And I loved every second. Bro really spent a lot of time in the archives to make this content

[@gabrielcanejo187]

1:01:04 See! I knew there was a reason that Yariel in the Robot Chicken Sketch was so Good, same as in here, he's the one Council Member with the Balls to Remind Yoda and Mace that there are other people in the council who matter besides them when they forget!

[@chaosthegod]

I didn't knew I needed this video until I saw it! Such a gem full of Legends content.

[@holyarchangelmichael]

It's great to see another video from you. I think your rankings are fair. I actually forgot Coleman Trebor was a Council Member because Jango Fett takes him out so quickly in Attack of the Clones.

[@heatherleisure]

This video is so frikken cool and detailed with sources, I wish more KZbinrs were like this

[@austinames9340]

Good work! I'm still a LIIIIIIITLE hesitant to consider Ben Kenobi THAT powerful, but you make a good argument as always.

[@yones_wav]

Thank you for your content Evan, its always really in-depth and gives me more lore knowledge. Your the best Star Wars channel on here by far, but lets keep that a secret. Its a nice getaway from the other channels that garner a lot of toxic individuals who don't really care for the more nuanced takes on the lore.

[@ultimateexergon]

Disney gave us some more lore for Coleman Kcaj. Apparently he survived Order 66, potentially surviving til 9 BBY before being killed by the Inquisitors or Darth Vader, which seeing his lack of lore in the EU I could see happening there too. Of course we don't know where he was during Order 66, but depending on the circumstances of his survival he could potentially be more powerful than Stass Allie plus he must have done something of importance to be even considered for a seat on the council, especially since there are several other Jedi (like Aayla Secura or Luminara Undula) who could have taken the seat.

[@lapplandkun9273]

The inquisitors are low rank low knight level fodder who couldn't even defeat Kanan. I honestly say Vader killed him

[@thestrongestnerd4284]

Video was amazing and pretty much spot on, deepa Bilaba definitely looked bad in the bad batch when she was killed by several clones so that would probably lower her to B tier

[@Wes_Bradley-Taubner]

You’re using her Disney canon death to downplay legends Depa?

[@Breakdowns04]

Oh yeah! Always look forward to your uploads, Evan! God bless!

[@vetabeta9890]

i used to watch your videos a lot in middle school, im in college now i’m glad youtube put this on my fyp i’ve been getting back into SW legends so much now

[@hiperyon3604]

I stopped watching a movie to watch this vid. Needless to say I'm hyped for this one.

[@robertkughen5595]

So glad to see your still making content been watching your videos for a years thanks again

[@Comrade2261]

Thank you for continuing to cover Expanded Universe.

[@yusefmordred1621]

This is one of the best videos I've ever seen! Superb work and a true gem of an offering you've given the fandom

[@tsgreene2]

So glad you’re still around Evan, you’re an OG

[@maxmustermann9058]

A bit of a weird take, but I would put Kit Fisto below Agen Kolar or Saesee Tiin. While he has more feats, Tiin rivaling Windu on two occasions and Kolar being stated comparable, as well as soundly beating Vos are higher quality than losing to Ventress and Durge. Tiin especially has also been given a special excuse for his performance against Sidious in the novel and Fisto also had more time to gather himself since Sidious simply did not target him at the start of his assault.

[@fdjtron1732]

Excellent analysis. I hope to see the same video about Luke's Jedi Council.

[@PalladinPoker]

One thing I would like to point out is that Mace is amped in pretty much every single duel thanks to Vaapad using his opponents dark side power against them. He would lose to Master Dooku or the Anakin that defeated Dooku, and Yoda of course but only Sidious can best him.

[@mung01re]

There's nothing that chaps my ass more than being reminded how much of a badass Yarael Poof was. I mean... just _look_ at him.

[@drfitz462]

This is where the fun begins

[@Masa6x]

Thanks for this bro. It would be lit if you made other tierlists using the same standard, for perhaps SWTOR sith council, and other eras in SW. Then we could compare a C tier jedi from the prequels to a C tier jedi from SWTOR or kotor era and it would be relatively comparable, obviously a true versus would have way more factors that go into it.

[@darylsdesigns6679]

I wonder if Evan will rank the groups of dark side adepts that served Palpatine’s Galactic Empire, in Legends of course

[@elenplays]

Props for giving Obi mad respect.

[@logangilstrap6060]

Dude your my favorite star wars channel. Your breakdowns and lore are amazing! Please keep them coming!!

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

I would personally place me above Revenge of the Sith Anakin. It is often argued (as in this video) that both Anakin and I are nerfed during this fight so it's difficult to power scale us. I was nerfed by my desire to not kill Anakin while he was nerfed by his arrogance. But, we cannot only take the cons, we must also take the pros. What I mean by this is that while Anakin was nerfed by his arrogance, he was boosted by his anger and rage in the Dark Side. Turning to the Dark Side both made him stronger while making him more reckless. But that is the nature of the Dark Side, every Dark Side user will become stronger and more overconfident when they fully embrace it. That is why I would argue Anakin was not nerfed, he was at full strength. If was are doing to count any power boosts, we also need to account to any weakness that come with that boost which is why I would argue I beat a full powered, Dark Side Anakin. Additionally, the novelization has me holding back for most of the fight but I still match Anakin hit for hit. But at the end of the fight, it is clearly stated that I let go of any attachment for him and let the Force flow thought me. When that happens, the fight actually becomes easy. That was me at full strength, not holding back anything and is when I beat Anakin. I was so strong that I beat Anakin without even meaning to. So I would agree that I am stronger than Anakin because I ordinarily do not hold anything back and the instant I don't Anakin was defeated. Additionally, my intelligence has to be accounted for when ranking my power. I was not physically as strong as Anakin but knowing how to use power is far more important than power itself. I routinely used said intelligence to wear Anakin down and place him in difficult scenarios and battle sense is just as important in a fight as battle ability (which I had as well). For all those reasons, I would strongly argue that I am above Anakin. I had more battle sense, I won the instant I stopped holding back, and Anakin's overconfidence from the Dark Side cannot be separate from the extra strength he gained from the Dark Side. My defeat of him was not a fluke, it was a clear win. Even Vader later acknowledged this saying he was still the leaner when we met again and it's why Yoda sent to fight Anakin which such confidence, he knew I could win.

[@stranglestrong]

You put a lot of work into your videos. Very impressive

[@Kronozz23]

YES!! i am so happy you are back, i havent even watched the video yet but i always love this content. keep going bro PLEASE!!!!

[@michaelterrell5061]

Is no one going to talk about how ABSOLUTELY OP the Infant of Saha feat is? Because it basically means that the majority of high council members are at least capable of using their force abilities to contend with planet busters, mind you, Coroscaunt is a large planet.

[@Wes_Bradley-Taubner]

I saw the VS Battles Wiki calc for that feat and it was only Planet Level, not Large Planet Level. Large Planet Level would be if you destroyed a planet as big as our gas giants. Still insanely impressive for Poof and the council though. 82.42 Zettatons of TNT is a crazy AP feat.

[@rylan2314]

great video, and i’d love to see a video ranking the NJO-FOTJ era council, and seeing how they stack up against the strongest prequal era jedi

[@thestrongestnerd4284]

NJO time Jedi just all get “scaled” really high according to most people since they chronologically came last and writers love to use statements like “most powerful or greatest”, but the actual feats of alot of them besides Luke, Jacen, Kyle, and Kyp are generally less formidable then the prequel era council I’d say

[@bensilk6431]

Nice to see you still making videos. Though I'd say nightfall vader beating mace windu with extreme difficulty I agree with the rest of the ranking.

[@elijahstimson179]

Coleman Kcaj does have one feat attributed to him. He was a participant in the Battle of Geonosis and survived the Petranaki Arena, having been stated to have done so in the New Essential Guide to Alien Species. Ergo, he should scale above Coleman Trebor but below Stass Allie, which would put him at least on the level of the least-skilled fighters to have survived the Arena (Roth-Del Masona, Tarados Gon, and Joclad Danva). So he'd be at least high-Knight tier.

[@c_-pb3ue]

that’s not kcaj that’s pablo jill

[@elijahstimson179]

@@c_-pb3ue It's him in the films, yes. I didn't cite the films. I cited a sourcebook

[@crystalfire7x]

It is here at last. Now to wait for the Tyranus vs. Malak Vs. Match.

[@CompositeCreativity]

That’s going on Jensaari1’s channel, not Evan’s.

[@crystalfire7x]

​Yes, I am aware of it.

[@theoldhermit2601]

Also, i do like your S+ tier with the hypotheticals. Imo, Dark Times Yoda is very interesting to analyze. My opinion is that in terms of force power, the only person who matches him is Dark Times Sidious (who i think scales massively above his ROTS self), yet his combative prowess degrading to much lower than his ROTS self; likely a hair slower, much quicker to fatigue, and not quite as sharp bladework as he once had. From what i can tell, when jedi along with finishing their training, also find a peace in their mind and greater understanding on the force, they become much more powerful, as their limits in the force are partially broken, and i think Dark Times Yoda encapsulates that, considering the things he had to Luke in Empire. So its a tricky situation where i think Dark Times Yoda could probably ragdoll all of A tier and lower with the force, but if it came to lightsaber combat, he would be A tier or maybe down to B tier (likely not that low with the dark jedi feat, but still). So its a weird case where i think this version of yoda is much more powerful than his ROTS self, but i find it hard to give him a majority in a hypothetical fight, because his ROTS iteration would run circles around him.

[@core-legacy]

Don't forget that Dark Times Sidious did fall to one person on this list.

[@SuperWindsage]

I generally view that fan made duel for Ben and Vader as the actual physical depiction of the fight, and the New Show duel to be where they are at before that. Obi could still Beat Vader for a time post Revenge of the Sith, but eventually time and isolation undid him. Vader was constantly fighting and training with so much more wealth and resources to put into it, in training material and sparring partners while Ben had no one.

[@MentalMachine]

Coleman Trebor is actually very underrated...

[@ZayneLion-xv3fe]

I like to think the dark Jedi Yoda fought was camping himself with the dark side cave

[@kylemc2290]

Always feels good to see you post videos man, keeping the legends and Council ForceCast torch burning strong!

[@McbrideStudios]

We need to see the Mace V. Palpatine fight redone by Studio Trigger. Shown in full hype.

[@mikeor-]

I knew Yoda would be at number one. There is no contender to be higher than him in the Prequel Era.

[@lukewarren9069]

This was awesome Evan. As always, well done.

[@josesosa3337]

I'm waiting for someone to power scale mercenaries, bounty hunters, and assassins in star wars. Grievous can't use the force so its easy to assume he'd be number one since a competent force user being challeneged in a 1v1 is supposed to be rare. Legends or disney canon, its whatever. But i would love to see 2d clone wars Durge in these discussions.

[@fallingpotato9221]

i feel like he gives Ventress way more credit than is seen in the clone wars animated series.

[@twistedvtuber9894]

Shout out to using Ultra Ego for the Crucitorn explanation, more people need to know how cracked that power really is

[@Twilight5007]

I still uave no idea why yoda didnt just murk Anakin to slow down sideous' plans then work on gathering the allies needed to actually fight sideous

[@TheBigExclusive]

Jedi ranks aren't "power levels". They are wisdom levels. The rank isn't a guarantee of strength. There are Jedi Masters who are weaker than some Jedi Knights. Like Jedi Master Jocasta Nu being weaker than Padawan Ahsoka or Jedi Knight Anakin.

[@jamest1242r]

This is thee and I mean Thee not the but Thee best vs star wars page and back story on the net. Should have at least 1 billion subscribers man. So in-depth, so much backstory expressed and more.

[@macattackk]

Great video! I do think that Yoda and possibly Mace and Anakin too should've been placed a tier above Kenobi though. Yoda outright states he wouldn't stand a chance against Sidious, whereas at least Yoda and Mace definitely would, and as you mentioned it is also stated many times that Anakin was a superior fighter and stronger in the force than Kenobi, with Kenobi's victory being very circumstantial. Add to that instances like Kenobi and Anakin's respective performances against Dooku, and I think it stands to reason that, though Kenobi is superior to everyone below him on this list, he is not on par with the other members of S tier.

[@karolclark791]

You're not giving Obi Wan enough credit for his wisdom during battle. Sure Anakin was a slightly better duelist, but that's all he could do overpower the enemy. While Obi Wan on multiple occasions was able to use the environment to his advantage. The high ground wasn't some magical unfair advantage that just happened to be there. Obi Wan knew he can't defeat Vader outright and the whole fight he was luring Anakin to new locations to look for something that'll help him secure the win.

[@gabrielcarrasco9078]

I dont think you gave Koth enough credit. He also gave Vader a good fight after years of not using a lightsaber. Koth wasnt being amped, and Vader was not fighting under a handicap. Pretty impressive overall.

[@onmyown9552]

Eeth Koth was literally amped. Vader said himself that "You have become more powerful than council would allow you"

[@alecjackman2655]

Later novel ‘rise of the red blade’ gives more insight into that fight that implies Vader was toying with him.

[@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026]

2:50 "Skywonker". Can't unhear it now.

[@karolclark791]

BRuHh

[@logansdad4583]

Just starting it… thank you for doing this content.

[@travisvanalst4698]

In RotS Obi did match Vader in TK only for the split second of him moving first to push. Vader caught his push and you can visibly see Obis hand bending backwards from Vaders push. Extremely powerful move from Obi but he still falls short of Vader in TK.

[@ssjdeadpool]

The same classic intro after all this time, we really do love to see it

[@mikeor-]

Yoda: Allow this appointment lightly, the Council does not. Disturbing, is this move by Chancellor Palpatine. Anakin: I understand. Mace Windu: You are on this Council, but we do not grant you the rank of Master. Anakin: What? (Pauses) How can you do this? This is outrageous! It's unfair! How can you be on the Council, and not be a Jedi Master?! Mace Windu: Take a seat, young Skywalker. Anakin: Forgive me, Master. (Thinking: I should be granted the rank of Master, you fool.)

[@pwnanubasaurus2950]

If Yarrel Poof could solo Misfits of the Omniverses which has 2 Boundless characters, and 1 High Outerversal character I’d die laughing

[@johnnygoodwin1538]

Let’s go!! Thanks so much for all the hard work here, very much enjoyed the video!!

[@greywater57]

Another point in Kcaj’s support, if we count Disney canon, he is a confirmed survivor of Order 66 along with Quinlan Vos and Oppo Rancisis; he is confirmed dead by the events of Kenobi in 9 BBY, but he is confirmed to have at least been alive as of 14 BBY as his name appears along with those other two Jedi I named and a couple other faceless Jedi on a list of survivors after Vader had successfully slain Eeth Koth. Thus, we know for a fact that Kcaj survived the Jedi Purge for 5-10 years, which is certainly nothing to scoff at. I do hope that we get an actual story for him someday.

[@borgCube100]

I do believe it's calculated to be around 19 strikes a SECOND that Obi-Wan rather easily (for someone fighting off 19 strikes a second), not only deflected, but out right countered (cutting off limbs) from General Grievous. 4 angles, strengths and styles attacking someone with one blade - someone who was once moved out of the Jedi Knight path because of his weaker connection to the force, shows that hard-work and experience can outclass almost anything.

[@matthewludwikowski6224]

Real Star Wars content: so refreshing! ❤

[@reybuccatjr.2693]

One of the better more in depth lists I’ve seen. My only major deviation would be Eeth Koth. I think you placed him too low due to his lightsaber skills, but he puts up one of the best fights against Vader post Order66. So think he should be B tier along with Agen Kolar. Loving the content🤙

[@OVERLORD-tb9sr]

Hahahah this is awesome to listen to while I'm driving to work just perfect timing 😁

[@baki484]

I do the same thing with their vs matches.

[@benwelsh5265]

It has the makings of an excellent day when a 1 hour EvanNova95 vid drops.

[@dakotalange2858]

Hope y’all are doing ok can’t wait to see the video!