Ranking the TOP 10 DPS Players of ALL TIME - Plat Chat Top 10

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Plat Chat

Plat Chat

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Esports podcast specializing in feeding and Overwatch.
Featuring the Overwatch League's Brennon "Bren" Hook, Joshua "Sideshow" Wilkinson, Jonathan "Reinforce" Larsson, and Connor "Avast" Prince.
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0:00 - Intro
8:10 - Rank 10
13:57 - Rank 9
20:35 - Rank 8
27:09 - Rank 7
37:02 - Rank 6
46:12 - Rank 5
54:54 - Rank 4
1:01:44 - Rank 3
1:08:48 - Rank 2
1:17:14 - Rank 1
1:25:30 - Overall Rankings Discussion

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@SINotFound
@SINotFound 2 жыл бұрын
Plat Chat missing big announcements at the worst time, this'll never get old LMAO
@chefreyna2291
@chefreyna2291 2 жыл бұрын
What announcement
@SamOGr
@SamOGr 2 жыл бұрын
@@chefreyna2291 check the overwatch league youtube channel
@Aurora-xg1lj
@Aurora-xg1lj 2 жыл бұрын
@@chefreyna2291 jjonak isn’t playing in the next season
@Gxblaster
@Gxblaster 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aurora-xg1lj Sadness :(
@vngt
@vngt 2 жыл бұрын
I swear Matt schedules this on purpose
@stefayylmao
@stefayylmao 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a list of the greatest rosters of all time, weighing how good each roster is. For example would 2021 Dragons beat the 2020 shock and so on
@CMC004
@CMC004 2 жыл бұрын
I've thought about that but it would also be super difficult to gauge because of how much the game has evolved along with the players skill
@petrnovak4846
@petrnovak4846 2 жыл бұрын
Shock has to be number 1
@benrotko6411
@benrotko6411 2 жыл бұрын
@@petrnovak4846 no
@CharlieGreasby
@CharlieGreasby 2 жыл бұрын
@@benrotko6411 yeah lmao I feel even Dallas 2021 is close to better than shock 2020, and Shanghai obviously are better than that so I honestly don’t think it’s that close lmao
@moneyglitch
@moneyglitch 2 жыл бұрын
@@petrnovak4846 agreed, that team was absolutely unreal. Striker, Rascal, Ans (in his prime), Smurf/Choi/Super were like top 3 tanks on their heroes, and Viol2t, Twilight were the best flex backline hands down, with Moth as best if not top 3 main support. I think that team was pretty much untouchable outside of a Genji heavy meta.
@petertaylor3621
@petertaylor3621 2 жыл бұрын
I love Reinforce's rationale for DPS: "How scary they are in the lobby". Exactly fits how I think about these players.
@skoomatroll
@skoomatroll 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why I feel ANS got robbed, if you get in the lobby and see you’re 1v1ing ans on Ashe or Widow you’d be quaking in your gaming chair
@petertaylor3621
@petertaylor3621 2 жыл бұрын
@@skoomatroll totally agree, I had him 4th in my list below Profit, Fleta, and Leave. If he played last season in a hitscan meta he could've pushed for 2nd or 1st. Highest peaks out of any player I have ever seen.
@jonwicked7031
@jonwicked7031 2 жыл бұрын
@@petertaylor3621 nah he doesn’t have the longevity sure I think he has the best 1 season but it almost seems like a one hit wonder
@petertaylor3621
@petertaylor3621 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonwicked7031 I think he if had played in a meta or team that emphasized hitscan he would've bee elite again last season. His 2020 season was so unbelievable that I don't care about the longevity in his case. His insane peak puts him near the top.
@short-eu7bs
@short-eu7bs 2 жыл бұрын
nah I don't think that rationale works because even inconsistent players are "scary" where they could pop off out of nowhere.
@SpicyPenny
@SpicyPenny 2 жыл бұрын
Can we just appreciate the fact that Platchat has been singlehandedly been the A T L A S of Overwatch content, keeping us feed with copium for WEEKS of bare minimum. Absolute mad lads, hope they can break masters one day
@SpicyPenny
@SpicyPenny 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReinforceOW this is good to know! I found out about you through OWL, and love/trust your input! I’ll give Tactical a look through as well!
@daviddiett2168
@daviddiett2168 2 жыл бұрын
It's something to look forward to every week with any news updates regarding OW in general or just hypothesizing what some OWL teams could look like come May. I'd have loved if there was time to look back at key matches or moments throughout the year and reminisce, I've actually started watching Custa's History of Overwatch to see how the game has evolved going into it's future this year.
@thetissueofjustice9875
@thetissueofjustice9875 2 жыл бұрын
*overwatch LEAGUE content super is still carrying overwatch in general same for redshell and levelup
@BuildingHP
@BuildingHP 2 жыл бұрын
Listen, Top 10 Silly Hero list is not a bad idea.
@CharlieGreasby
@CharlieGreasby 2 жыл бұрын
I want a top 10 genji list lmao
@justdave1842
@justdave1842 2 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see Valorant casters also enjoying other games
@edenliu8453
@edenliu8453 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@martin6043
@martin6043 2 жыл бұрын
Actually laughed
@jonwicked7031
@jonwicked7031 2 жыл бұрын
No you didn’t 😂
@CrazeeAdam
@CrazeeAdam 2 жыл бұрын
I mean OW was kind of where they made their name originally...if we're talking about Sideshow and Bren.
@lukcyx3229
@lukcyx3229 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrazeeAdam that's the joke...
@blairemackenzie7915
@blairemackenzie7915 2 жыл бұрын
I think doing your most Overrated and Underrated Player on each role from every season could be interesting.
@blairemackenzie7915
@blairemackenzie7915 2 жыл бұрын
@Jmt1000 Valid. Valid. I just felt weird putting just Underrated Ig. Haha. I think Underrated would be really interesting.
@r2bert254
@r2bert254 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe it. I can NOT fucking believe it. I simply REFUSE to believe the absolute imcompetent, negligence, of actually not, for ANY of these categories whatsoever, not voting for FUCKING Rascal. This guy doesn't get props by anyone, on no one's social media radar whatsoever. Everyone's talking about like "oh Smurf, ya know, Smurf he's-- poor Smurf!" think about Rascal! He literally came into the league at the start of the year, was the BEST Mei. He revolutionized the way you play Echo, and set the guidelines for everyone else in the league for MONTHS! Or pretty much like half the season! And then he comes into the Countdown Cup and plays the Genji, that actually turns the SanFranciscoShockaroundandtheywintheseriesagainstthePhiladelphiaFusion! How is NO ONE, on this PLANET talking about Rascal as one of the most underrated players of the year! It's absolutely... HURTING MY SOUL!
@strongtallhandsomemuscular290
@strongtallhandsomemuscular290 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see an All-Time Overwatch Dream Team roster, who you all choose for your teams in a 2 -2 -2 lock from any point in the history of OW
@timppaaz_
@timppaaz_ 2 жыл бұрын
Across all of the goat lists, sideshow has had clearly had the best lists/opinions overall, I have found so much respect to him after losing it while watching him actually play the game on stream.
@diran0
@diran0 2 жыл бұрын
i like his lists overall, but this was my least favourite. Leave deserves WAY better than 11.
@DylanWilby
@DylanWilby 2 жыл бұрын
His on-stream persona is just that tbf: a persona. He definitely plays up to it a lot.
@jonwicked7031
@jonwicked7031 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed also avast list have to be the worst overall, even Mr.X has moments of clarity
@kaisawhatever4443
@kaisawhatever4443 2 жыл бұрын
His take on Leave is horrible
@Mashmallow_31
@Mashmallow_31 2 жыл бұрын
No way these guys put Carpe at 9. He was one of the best dps in the game in 2018 and he reached the finals. He was a role star in 2020 and reached the semi-finals. He was consistent in 2021. The disrespect to Carpe is real holy... He is at minimum 6 imo.
@jakeloucks1762
@jakeloucks1762 2 жыл бұрын
He is also 2nd all time for Elims, final blows and total hero damage done for the overwatch league lol… Bren putting him at 15 is just a baffling take
@HDKoops
@HDKoops 2 жыл бұрын
They’re drunk.
@Mashmallow_31
@Mashmallow_31 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakeloucks1762 That is very true. And it seems like Bren rates Birdring way too high. He wasn't even the best player in London and Glads. He was very good but not no.4 all time. EDIT: OMG BREN HAD STITCH OVER CARPE, AND DIEM AT 8!??!!
@adamu.2674
@adamu.2674 2 жыл бұрын
Their lists so far have been all over the place. I mean they put Super as #1 MT in the games history. Rediculous.
@adamu.2674
@adamu.2674 2 жыл бұрын
STITCH? STITCH! OMFG
@mickelshout4327
@mickelshout4327 2 жыл бұрын
The team previews really kept me excited through the off-season last year, please do those again!
@brandenaugustine1782
@brandenaugustine1782 2 жыл бұрын
Back in Season 3 during the early Covid period, I saw a Philly Fusion game where they went up against the Gladiators and I remember saying to my roommate that Birdring gave me Evil Carpe energy, and I maintain today that I feel the same way watching Birdring click heads in that King's Row clip.
@thetoxicpig7959
@thetoxicpig7959 2 жыл бұрын
The carpe slander is unreal. Same tier as Jjonak in terms of longevity, nutty at the start of OWL and didn’t fall off as hard as others say. There’s a reason why he’s the Philly captain and why he played over Rascal so much this past season. Imo he should be right around Birdring
@josephmewies9453
@josephmewies9453 2 жыл бұрын
i dont think jjonak had as much longevity as some may put forward and especially not from no. 8 up
@thetoxicpig7959
@thetoxicpig7959 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephmewies9453 jjonak no longevity? He’s literally the only one who has played every single map for a team
@josephmewies9453
@josephmewies9453 2 жыл бұрын
@@thetoxicpig7959 they also didnt have another option. he helb back the nyxl for 3 years not very sad to see him go
@petertaylor3621
@petertaylor3621 2 жыл бұрын
top 10 all time players would be incredible. really interesting to see how it would shape up.
@mintcream7017
@mintcream7017 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad to hear Bren defend libero- criminally underrated player, libero was the flex, the glue, the one person on NYXL that consistently proved their raw talent on hero after hero in clutch situation after clutch situation.
@connordurham6827
@connordurham6827 2 жыл бұрын
Should have been a top 20 sadge, graphics could have been used for just top 10 because Kurt is the goat
@justinwillis2112
@justinwillis2112 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see an episode where each person puts together their all-star team which can include any players who have EVER played in OWL. Would be interesting to see who you guys think is not just good but would mesh well with the others you've chosen. I would think each team would be a roster of 7 (3 DPS, 2 Tanks, 2 Support).
@sohkya27
@sohkya27 2 жыл бұрын
agree with bren on the libero take, dude was absolutely integral to almost any team he's been on. never gonna forget the mei wall strat in meta athena.
@judeau5320
@judeau5320 2 жыл бұрын
I think a good idea for off season content is trying to bring on some of the rookies coming into the game for next year and talk to them about their thoughts going into OW2 and about their career throughout OW1 outside of the League.
@Nessa-939
@Nessa-939 2 жыл бұрын
yo that would be sick
@IFCGaming
@IFCGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I always do my Top10 list right before the episode, so I can be as emotional as Sideshow when watching 😂
@seeryeven
@seeryeven 2 жыл бұрын
As an NYXL fan, seeing Bren have Libero at 10 made me feel like a proud dad. Favourite OW player of all time.
@martin6043
@martin6043 2 жыл бұрын
Fleta and especially profit are just so much ahead of and other dps
@Alex_Asp
@Alex_Asp 2 жыл бұрын
Bren thank you so fucking much for talking about Libero in the end, I have never been so mad at my own org as when the NYXL just benched him for FUCKING NOTHING and nothing would make me happier than seeing him back on any team but u know I would prefer NYXL
@DontSigh
@DontSigh 2 жыл бұрын
I know you'll actually have some news to talk about next week but I still really want an episode with Kurt and/or Wyatt where you quiz them on whatever OWL knowledge they've passively accumulated over the years
@keli4031
@keli4031 2 жыл бұрын
Just repeating something I mentioned a few episodes ago, but whenever the final full 20 team pre-season rankings y'all should also do a fully random list and see which rankings are more accurate at the end of the season.
@CrazeeAdam
@CrazeeAdam 2 жыл бұрын
I think either way you go, Fleta or Profit, both are just inhuman beasts who can play near every single hero in the game, not just DPS, I feel if you gave them enough time they could run any hero possible. Like both are just computers it seems like sometimes that just download heroes and how to play them and then pop off on them. We're just lucky enough to witness not 1 but 2 people like this. And the fact that they are both #1 and #2 on most of the lists (I think except Bren) just says a whole lot about how influential they are. I like Matt's list the best actually btw. But I do rate Fleta higher than Profit, and he's the only one who had him at #1. So I kind of have to go with matt
@LauraLoo77
@LauraLoo77 2 жыл бұрын
Nailed it.
@rambujam
@rambujam 2 жыл бұрын
Wild to me that Bren didn't have Fleta in the top 5
@LauraLoo77
@LauraLoo77 2 жыл бұрын
@@rambujam Not really wild to me. That's higher up than I expected for him.
@luismgoncalves
@luismgoncalves 2 жыл бұрын
Homestly I'd love a top 10 best tracers, because Tracer in it of itself is an overwatch role... every team needs one and the best ones have tremendous impact
@s5h273
@s5h273 2 жыл бұрын
my favorite is actually mr.x list. i think he balanced longevity, individual skill level, dominance, consistency, winning records really well.
@ieuanwilliams9139
@ieuanwilliams9139 2 жыл бұрын
Putting fleta above profit I should criminal.every time they play each other in big games profit Is levels above
@calebbustin8894
@calebbustin8894 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to shout out my boy Danteh. Not sure top ten, but definitely should have been on the top 15 for somebody
@keachweder6217
@keachweder6217 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't finished it yet so I'm bummed to hear Danteh isn't top 10 lol but yeah I always thought danteh was underrated. If he was on a good team he would have absolutely stomped I think.
@SpyggtSpaghetti
@SpyggtSpaghetti 2 жыл бұрын
Leaves contenders team beat Runaway twice, won Nexus cup sweeping every korean team. what does Sideshow mean no long career
@sizableyeet
@sizableyeet 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a mock draft where each of you is creating a team of players for Overwatch 2 where every player (whether or not they are actually free agents) is available.
@shiverian5970
@shiverian5970 2 жыл бұрын
Well for video ideas you obviously have to cover the trademarked post-platchat news drop, but I'd also like to see a look back at the different metas in OW1 history and how you personally liked watching or casting them, as well as maybe something about specific teams/players during them.
@dustymarble3943
@dustymarble3943 2 жыл бұрын
In keeping with the rankings theme, you could rank each role star class by year, or do a top (12?, 16?) ranking of each role using only the role stars
@ryanschultz2290
@ryanschultz2290 2 жыл бұрын
Once you rub out of the typical (main tank, dps, off heals, ect) it would be fun to see you all do like a top 10 faces or fan favorites of owl and abstract ideas like that
@DoeSwiftandBond
@DoeSwiftandBond 2 жыл бұрын
great video. maybe id suggest that while doing player rankings in the future, show the list as the players are being announced. Also gentlemen I would say that Matt MrX had the best list for DPS-- with only perhaps swapping Ans for Decay in 10th place.
@Eiffel2k
@Eiffel2k 2 жыл бұрын
I think a GOAT player list of overwatch as a whole would be interesting, but I think a GOAT team list could also be fun to watch. Discussing the greatest teams in ow history could make for some interesting discussion
@OhNeuchy
@OhNeuchy 2 жыл бұрын
Carpe is very underrated it seems, despite being the player with most kills and straight up carrying Philadelphia for a few years.
@CrazeeAdam
@CrazeeAdam 2 жыл бұрын
Eh I don't think he hard carried though. He did do well. But he had a great team around him for most of it. But at the end of the day he hasn't done a lot unfortunately. I think he gets rated high based on longevity and eye test.
@mangshu21
@mangshu21 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrazeeAdam longevity is more impressive than peak
@gabeee6779
@gabeee6779 2 жыл бұрын
I think an episode covering the overwatch league icebergs would be an absolute banger
@hertzdtox
@hertzdtox 2 жыл бұрын
sideshow just understands the game more usually and his lists just make the most sense for me. He always try and make a good balance between accomplishments and mechanical skill and his probably the only one the rewatch old gameplay to make sure his opinions are valid. Just a smart person overall.
@rngsmiles3979
@rngsmiles3979 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you did not mention Sparkle's insane doomfist play as well. The hero was very situational, but there were several teamfights that he was able to turn with some of his plays. I would say in terms of that specific hero he is top 3 for sure. Though it is tough to accurately rank him due to the hero not being played too often.
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS 5 ай бұрын
they mentioned the em hackfist in contenders
@diran0
@diran0 2 жыл бұрын
i really want team previews + power rankings on whiteboard. also there was talk about quizzing Kurt to see what he has learned from the show.
@daviddiett2168
@daviddiett2168 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the Top 10 lists were actually pretty solid given the results, even Mr.X had one of the strongest ones but Bren had Stitch rated above Carpe? Come on man. I was wondering when you think of OWL GOAT who would be the first player to come to find for longevity, consistant performance and even accolades and with Profit I think he may stand to the first real GOAT of the League. Also I'd love to hear a discussions on either Top 10 coaches based on how they did their job for their players and what awards their teams achieved as a result or the Top 10 most underrated players. People like FITS, Libero, Heesu and more are probably worthy of more praise but for reasons just never are. For example as good as Sparkle was last year there was a game where Yaki diffed him damn near every way on Tracer and Echo but Florida's lacking performance might've overshadowed that, or when Heesu played Widow in playoffs instead of Carpe and people were foaming at the mouth at the very idea but he was probably as consistent or maybe even more so but Philly still couldn't reach the results they wanted. I'd love to see something like that discussed before OW1 (I guess) offically ends for the League this year if it's possible. Oh and Kurt should be Bren's player of the year for his contributions to Plat Chat.
@blackout995
@blackout995 2 жыл бұрын
This should be a very civil and uncontroversial discussion!
@Nick33779
@Nick33779 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for doing your shows honestly
@-getdeluxe
@-getdeluxe 2 жыл бұрын
Just the greatest plays of all time or most memorable moments, highlights or lowlights meme's would be something really fun to watch and remember
@metsalo1234
@metsalo1234 2 жыл бұрын
Do a highest peaks ranking. I want to see a discussion about who was the best at his best arcoss all roles. It could be a top 10 or a hot takes where eveyone argues for one player. (If so let Brenn argue for Ans aka the hitscan GOAT)
@ashdude3058
@ashdude3058 2 жыл бұрын
Jjonak leejaegon Fissure/gesture? Choi profit ans
@Morphjin47
@Morphjin47 2 жыл бұрын
Can you guys rank your top 10 favourite professional Overwatch teams? It can be about certain characters in the team or sheer brilliance, individual mechanics or coordination. Can include contenders, pre-OW and World cups.
@JYD2020
@JYD2020 2 жыл бұрын
a list of most influential players would be cool. Not ranked but just who influenced the game, the role, outside the game the most
@seanmertens2532
@seanmertens2532 2 жыл бұрын
Episode ideas: Overwatch Legends - Talk about people who have had a big impact on the scene/brought positivity, energy, and personality. Who is going to be good in OW2? - Are goats gonna carry over or are rookies going to dominate? Most Stiffed Player Awards - which promising players got their career fucked the most by coaches, visas, health issues, metas, etc.
@Zippity181
@Zippity181 2 жыл бұрын
If you do the combined GOAT list something like the f1 ranking would be great. To those who don’t know winner gets 25, then 18, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1 for 10th. It’s great not only for highly rating wins (topping a list) but you’ll also notice after 3rd it starts to drop hard, so it really rates high placements. Stretch that system out to like 15 place and you’d get a great ranking.
@marcogeorgoussis5531
@marcogeorgoussis5531 2 жыл бұрын
I think you guys are forgetting how great Birdring was all of 2020 not just in the playoffs, him and space were literally carrying gladiators kicking and screaming all season long. Also in stage 4 2019 while profit was out there playing some of the worst Mei he's ever played, Birdring was out there playing some of the best hanzo in the league at the time.
@permanenteuphoria2723
@permanenteuphoria2723 2 жыл бұрын
yeah i agree birdring was sick
@veer0522
@veer0522 2 жыл бұрын
i think you are forgetting how awful he was in goats, profit was so much better at both the brig and zarya than him, and he benched himself in the playoffs when they where actually playing pretty well
@Archivist
@Archivist 2 жыл бұрын
Fleta should have been #1. Carpe at #9 is criminal. Bren continues to produce "interesting" picks lol. Other than that, this is the best of the Plat Chat rankings. Very entertaining!
@avet4952
@avet4952 2 жыл бұрын
Profit is better
@Archivist
@Archivist 2 жыл бұрын
Profit's peak was 3 seasons ago when the competition was much easier, Fleta was in his prime these last 2 seasons at the height of competition.
@Archivist
@Archivist 2 жыл бұрын
Also, MVP diff
@pyocopyocoultra2047
@pyocopyocoultra2047 2 жыл бұрын
@@Archivist profit has been good for a lot longer than fleta also you have to take the team they are playing with into consideration
@permanenteuphoria2723
@permanenteuphoria2723 2 жыл бұрын
@@pyocopyocoultra2047 he didn’t, otherwise it would obviously be Profit lol
@DoeSwiftandBond
@DoeSwiftandBond 2 жыл бұрын
a top 25 greatest players list would be good; also team previews were a favorite from last year. maybe some more speculation about overwatch 2?
@barkaviouswarmack4748
@barkaviouswarmack4748 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see team previews come back and when are we going to get Curt's OverWatch League trivia video?
@perome10
@perome10 2 жыл бұрын
can you make maybe an episode where each of them chose their favorite play, analizing the players, the startegy and why is "the greates play?
@apcaperton
@apcaperton 2 жыл бұрын
Great one!
@tymunster
@tymunster 2 жыл бұрын
Man I thought Carpe was a nut in 2021
@hamk0spe
@hamk0spe 2 жыл бұрын
He started off 2021 really, really strong. But sadly struggled with consistency and his tracer didn't look the same as in the past :(
@Opti-Miser
@Opti-Miser 2 жыл бұрын
Just started the vid but I'm excited to hear Avast's insanely hot take of the week
@gravenhurst5970
@gravenhurst5970 2 жыл бұрын
Idea: Top 5 (or however many you guys want) Funniest OWL moments. Ex: im37 speaking english to Danny after he spoke Korean to him, Profits middle finger, etc
@Daniel_Frise
@Daniel_Frise 2 жыл бұрын
The only player who I’m astonished didn’t make the aggregated top 20 is Pelican. Dominated Contenders Korea with O2 Blast and carried that into OWL with the Reign to a ROTY Award.
@zak0o110
@zak0o110 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a top 10 most mechanically gifted players, just the flashy incredible head clickers and stuff
@remryukcreepy
@remryukcreepy 2 жыл бұрын
Avast beyond based with the Yaki shoutout, definitely agree with the reasoning that it doesn't matter he didn't win, dude's a freakbeast
@mariomp4754
@mariomp4754 2 жыл бұрын
Some video with Kurt on camera would be amazing, given his knowledge absorbed fom you guys, without having watched OWL himself
@matthewwalloch6250
@matthewwalloch6250 2 жыл бұрын
i think an insteresting shout would be to like make best teams where the players had not played with each other before
@mccreadykearney9863
@mccreadykearney9863 2 жыл бұрын
Carpe is officially the most underrated player in the history of OWL
@briantowsey9534
@briantowsey9534 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@CrazeeAdam
@CrazeeAdam 2 жыл бұрын
eh I don't think he's necessairly underrated. he made top 10 of all time. He just unfortunately hasn't won anything :( as is the Philly curse. Like to me there's much more underrated players just because they are great players who were on bad teams for a lot of their career (i.e. Danteh, Dalton, Glister to name a few damage players)
@junt2397
@junt2397 2 жыл бұрын
I think Jinmu deserves a shot, dude is best pharah in the leaguue ever since he started playing and is a extremely good Hanzo and genji
@bluesassault8006
@bluesassault8006 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl really love this list. Carpe was a golden spanner in the works of Philly And Rascal is top 3 supporting dps of all time
@jamiemarsden661
@jamiemarsden661 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a top 10 duo rankings of all time- dps, tanks and support Moth/violet, Profit/birdring, super/Choi etc? Would be so cool to see your thoughts
@Nicki1202
@Nicki1202 2 жыл бұрын
would love to see team previews again :)
@ulrik03
@ulrik03 2 жыл бұрын
When Kurt said that it's the most amount of parity: People heavily overrate DPS. So many DPS players gets hype, so people think that a list such as this would be hard. But in reality, they're still just a third of the team, and you can still pretty easily separate the very top from the levels below (it has *double the amount of players*, if not more, and still they only considered 23 players).
@JonathanCasey711
@JonathanCasey711 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for Top 10 Silly Hero poggers. Also if you’re doing All Time OW1, you need to do Top 20.
@justinoliveira3063
@justinoliveira3063 2 жыл бұрын
I think Decay could easily be in the top 5 DPS of all time if he could actually get on a team that doesn't poo the bed. His raw skill is through the roof, but he has attitude problems. if he cleaned up his act, we could be witnessing the next Profit or Fleta just not as flexible.
@oidelm4405
@oidelm4405 2 жыл бұрын
Id love a top 5 duo list for each role (e.g. smurf choi, void fate etc.)
@ellaser93
@ellaser93 2 жыл бұрын
The 2021 Dragons are represented in the Top 2, with Lip at 3. Also Fearless at 3. Coach Moon and company sure knew how to pick them, eh.
@Staymare
@Staymare 2 жыл бұрын
How to pick them i.e. have a monster budget
@zepic3173
@zepic3173 2 жыл бұрын
@@Staymare tbf getting lip was true scouting wizardry
@Staymare
@Staymare 2 жыл бұрын
@@zepic3173 I'd say Fearless was also good scouting since most people dismissed him off his season 1. Everyone else was just mega talent that got the bag thrown at them
@ellaser93
@ellaser93 2 жыл бұрын
@@Staymare Ehh... You can have as big a budget as you want. No amount of money is going to make a bad player good. And there were a lot of players in that 2020 season that people had strong concerns about. (Fearless, Void, and Lip were all high on the concern list, and many thought that Fleta was washed at that point.) You can spend a lot of money and use up a whole bunch of resources, but if the player turns out to be an absolute bust... Well, ask any long time Minnesota Vikings fan about Herschel Walker.
@squeegie
@squeegie 2 жыл бұрын
I got you Bren on =Haksal. He's mechanically god tier for his role. However he is an expensive player in terms of support. There are players that can get as much done with less investment. Explosive players also comes with high risk. When it works it's fucking great, but since they have to so heavily invest in to one single player to perform; it can also be detrimental if it fails.
@fabienlaurent7679
@fabienlaurent7679 2 жыл бұрын
Ranking all time GOATS or silly champ specialists would be pure entertainment. Please do!
@chimorin6665
@chimorin6665 2 жыл бұрын
happy to see diem on someone’s list :)
@benchesworth7750
@benchesworth7750 2 жыл бұрын
I'm writing this before seeing the top of the list, but I think most people came into this episode knowing that it would all come down to Profit v Fleta. There are people that come close to them like LIP, who reinvented Sombra and was arguably the best player two years running, and Striker, as the best player on perhaps the most impactful hero. But... the history behind Profit and Fleta is so big. The rivalry and discussion year after year surrounding these two of being the greatest makes this video not only the best DPS of OW, but also the GOAT of OW1 in my opinion. These two have been consistently incredible from the dawn of Overwatch. They haven't just been good, they have been at the PEAK. The Fleta deadlift was a meme for so long until finally we saw him be unleashed on a truly incredible team in 2020 and 2021. And Profit has carried in so many different types of metas that it's not even funny, and his playoff carry is huge. Most final blows ever is absolutely INCREDIBLE. I'm so glad these two were number 1 and 2. Both of these guys deserve the title, to be honest. EDIT: LET'S GO PROFIT GOAT
@olivergames7783
@olivergames7783 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought it would be between profit and carpe
@jonwicked7031
@jonwicked7031 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly don’t know how Seoul screw up when they had the 2 best DPS
@nirax9951
@nirax9951 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonwicked7031 cause tanks and supports were just average and its a 6player team game dude
@ellaser93
@ellaser93 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonwicked7031 To be fair; Fleta and Profit never played together. They both changed teams in 2020.
@ethantremblay6951
@ethantremblay6951 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a top 10 Ow1 Coaches but that may be hard to make.
@EFNBrktt
@EFNBrktt 2 жыл бұрын
Love the rtj sweater Bren
@jaylynharrie6674
@jaylynharrie6674 2 жыл бұрын
literally sitting here getting chills watching striker gameplay again
@porhaltavaneppe
@porhaltavaneppe Жыл бұрын
There was a lot of talk about flexing to off tank on the main tank list and how it didn't matter. But now flexing to sup/tank matters on dps list. Goats is a bit different but still. Although it was the same with alarm flexing to main supp. So consistency would be nice.
@Iroh21LoL
@Iroh21LoL Жыл бұрын
I know it has been some time now but I just rewatched this Video and when they hit the Top three I was sure it was gonna be Fleta and Profit in there. I was wondering who would be in there with them and couldn't really think of someone contesting that high up. But then I found someone and realized that they weren't on the list. Not even mentioned once. I'm kinda shocked that no one even touched the question of Sinatraa being on this list. Sure his peak was in Goats and DS but fucking hell was that guy good. He was the best Zarya in the league, no doubt about that and he was probably the best DPS that year overall (Legit MVP LUL). I suppose because he hasnt played that much other than 2019 he didn't get on the list but Jesus that guy was a god
@bridgyc9311
@bridgyc9311 2 жыл бұрын
I have not watched the top 3 yet, but they are missing Fleta, Profit, Lip and Fits. I'm gonna assume it's Fits who misses out, but damn I would definitely have all those 4 in my top 10.
@daviddiett2168
@daviddiett2168 2 жыл бұрын
All time Top 10? This is gonna be a mess... xD
@turt7916
@turt7916 2 жыл бұрын
The best list was Matt’s and Avast’s was a close second,you could say they’re interchangeable like their rank 1’s
@justdave1842
@justdave1842 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Kurt or any Plat Chat ppl that check comments: is there any chance you guys could make a "best rookie debut" list? I wanna see the arguments that stem from that sooo badly
@Dandevan
@Dandevan 2 жыл бұрын
Hands down, Sideshow had the best list. Poggers
@Severy
@Severy 2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 ideas: Best Coachs / Coach Team of all time. And a list of most "influential" / meme people of OW1. From Jayne over Dafran to the Egg himself :D
@ManateeCannon
@ManateeCannon 2 жыл бұрын
figured the dps list would come with the hottest takes but turns out it was the coldest of all
@sugarkrisp5199
@sugarkrisp5199 2 жыл бұрын
a player that i didnt expect to hear about, but am still disappointed no one had him in the top 20, is SHADOWBURN. i'll admit im a huge SDB fan, but i seriously believe his name deserves to be at least mentioned. He invented genji as a character and pioneered in every sense of the word, but what no one talks about is that to this day he is still the best pharah to have ever played the game.
@Flunksqk
@Flunksqk 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, cap.
@Nuek3163
@Nuek3163 2 жыл бұрын
He played 1 1/2 stages on Phili then was irrelevant on Paris.
@zachdavies7816
@zachdavies7816 2 жыл бұрын
I'm right there with you Avast. In such a team centric game like overwatch the team season success shouldn't count for or against a player.
@nestlepurelife1353
@nestlepurelife1353 2 жыл бұрын
Draft players for your teams for a 5th season of overwatch (Pretend there will be another season and everyone drafts from the pool of all players)
@Tohiowl
@Tohiowl 2 жыл бұрын
ngl I think Matt's list is fucking amazing. He actually did a very solid list this time, bless him
@williamjesse8475
@williamjesse8475 2 жыл бұрын
i think the collective list was way better any individual list. great job team.
@scope8616
@scope8616 Жыл бұрын
when i didnt see profit come up in any until 2nd was revealed as fleta. not a doubt in my mind. It was profit. the true DPS GOAT
@aaronplace
@aaronplace 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see another watch party of an old game from season 1 or maybe 2
@freundlyfreund2933
@freundlyfreund2933 2 жыл бұрын
Top 10 rosters relative to their era would be epic
@sethyoder7996
@sethyoder7996 2 жыл бұрын
A goat list would be so much fun to watch. I'd love team previews but maybe a bit closer to the season starting so we can have more info about ow2 before doing the previews.
@ianpetkau3346
@ianpetkau3346 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like eqo got robbed, he had an extremely dominant 2018, a solid 2019, extremely high peaks in 2020, and even benched rascal a lot of the time in 2021. The fact that he did not make a single top 15 is criminal
@GhostlyNest
@GhostlyNest 2 жыл бұрын
True good take tbh
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