Ranking the Xeno Series [ Xenogears | Xenosaga | Xenoblade ] The best from this AMAZING JRPG series

The Xenoblade series has been pretty popular lately, with the highly successful Chronicles 2 on the Switch, its lengthy expansion; Torna the Golden Country, and of course, most recently, a HD remaster of Chronicles 1.
But the Xeno series has, in fact, been around a lot longer than these game, starting all the way back in 1998, with the release of Xenogears on the Playstation 1, and then the Xenosaga Trilogy released on the Playstation 2 in the 2000s.
Each of the seven main Xeno games are all amazing in their own ways and for me, this is easily one of my favorite RPG series of all time.
This video will act as a countdown, looking at how I personally rank each of the games in series. I’m also interested to see how you rank the titles that you’ve played, so let me know in the comments.
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[@zammich3649]

Watching Xenosaga basically fade from existence is such as sad thing. This series made a big splash when it released -- everyone knew the game with the winged blue haired robot girl, and it turned out the story and gameplay were great for the time, too. The 3rd game when it came out was beautiful on all fronts, and incredibly ambitious! Nowadays, it almost feels like the series never existed, and you'd be hard-pressed to find a game go this hard with its themes. But I'm glad Takahashi is still around and I'm looking forward to Xenoblade 3.

[@ZillaPrimeX2]

Xenogears is still the greatest

[@acamacho023]

Xenogears is by far the most amazing story i have ever witnessed in any platform and it is a shame that the project that would've turned it into 6 games (xenogears being episode 5) never came to fruition.

[@candre5204]

How many games did you play? I mean its a great story but not even top 5 in just JRPGS and let alone in the gaming world.

[@acamacho023]

@@candre5204 I've played a lot, but by all means, what are your top 5? More than likely i'll agree that they are up there, but i can't say since you just asked. I've been an avid RPG player since the mid 90's.

[@candre5204]

Suikoden 2, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Zelda Ocarina of Time, Metal Gear Solid, thats just from 90's what comes on top of my head.

[@acamacho023]

@@candre5204 suikoden w i never finished, all the others to me, disn't have as deep a story. It's something about the xenogears story of love that transends time that really moved me.

[@candre5204]

@@acamacho023 what? The games i mentioned have so deep story that its scary that someone can write such a masterpiece content.

[@tigmo55]

Xenosaga III is one of the greatest games I have EVER played. Its my #1 pick on this list.

[@rahuljx1]

Xenosaga 3 for me was something special. The trilogy was wrapped up beautifully. The music, each character arc and story were exceptional. The deeper you get into the plot the more rewarding it is. Truly ambitious but delivered in spades.

[@Kbtoy789]

Same. It’s the one that had the strongest impact on me. Left me literally speechless at the end, staring at the screen in silence. Torna was a close second.

[@celticspike2522]

I could not agree more. I adored xenosaga 3.

[@alexsurratt89]

I wish I got to play it at the time. I'm playing through it right now andI'm not enjoying it as much as I hoped I would

[@blaze45ful]

I like it a lot, one of my favorites games in the ps2.

[@rahuljx1]

@@alexsurratt89 what did you think of part one and two?

[@richardsonrichly8456]

I love xenoblade 2 I love xenoblade 2 and all of the xeno games!

[@truthan-jy4uw]

did you just offend Xenoblade 2 with a line from rex? XD

[@floraidhfinnie4906]

So let’s play them, together!

[@richardsonrichly8456]

@@truthan-jy4uw it actually comes of that whay i just noticed😂 Nah its just my favorite

[@truthan-jy4uw]

@@richardsonrichly8456 it just hurts with Nia....

[@TrueWeltall]

Xenogears, for me, its the best RPG. Nice video, keep em coming.

[@Lilmomo-st5zh]

Pretty sure is Xenogears got a remake I’d just spontaneously combust out of shear joy

[@tiphotisted]

Man though I can't imagine Xenogears getting remade to the level of FF7R though. Xenogears is freaking huge! It has perhaps the most dense story I have ever played in a video game; in a good way too. It has some convoluted aspects but the characters deliver so hard and so does the narrative.

[@asmodeus58XX]

Don't forget we honestly lack a nice chunk of the game with the rushed disc 2.

[@jackmesrel4933]

​@@asmodeus58XXMain reason why I'd love to have a gears and saga remake. Saga would be more complicated, as it was being developed as a, well, saga from the get-go, and thus they'd need to make brand new games besides remaking the original 3, but gears would be a bit easier, as they only need to flesh out the parts they had to skim through in the original plus add more dungeons. Tho reworking the story to make the side characters more relevant outside of their personal arcs would be nice, if you know you know

[@pedrobeckup456]

​@@jackmesrel4933Makes it less hard to understand, makes the gameplay better, taking off random battle from existence, that would be a great remake

[@gordiathevans]

Xenogears has probably the best storyline from all JRPGs I have played. For the game itself, albeit being unfinished, it is still a very solid JRPG.

[@OskarReyAllen]

Xenogears best RPG of all time!

[@lordofhostsappreciator3075]

Xenoblade 1 DE >>>>

[@TheMixedPlateFrequency]

agreed

[@p0613v]

@Shaman X lol I agree but Xenogears is just more dark and biblical. Chrono cross is just DBZ and time machine movie combined. Sorry.

[@p0613v]

@Michael Walker beat the game atleast 18 times since 98. I agree with you.

[@p0613v]

@Shaman X lol of course it's not.

[@biozelink6086]

The funny thing with X is, that if you just play through the story, it's your least favourite Xenoblade. If you play all the side content, it's your favourite. The lore and world building are way deeper than all the others. There's a lot of important details you have to seek out, and that's what makes it amazing.

[@hepwo91222]

X is different, story ends on a cliffhanger though. Also the menus and interface were at times hard to see. But yeah, it has possibly better exploration than any game I have ever played.

[@biozelink6086]

@@hepwo91222 And it's still unsurpassed. I personally never had a problem with the UI, and I don't have a huge tv or anything. I think it's biggest problem is the story pacing. In the first chapters almost nothing is revealed, and in the end you get bombarded. It's still one of my favourite premises in any game, though. Btw I played it a bit later, and hearing people talk I expected a much worse cliffhanger. But the main conflict of the game got resolves, the end just set up a new one for the next game. As someone who's played trails, this was nothing :D

[@xSpyroTheDragon]

no it´s not. I did everything, put more than 250 hours into it, all trophies, best skell weapons, holo figures, complete monster list but it´s not enough to be my favourite. It is way better than Xenoblade 2 (for me a lot of jrpgs are better than that trash) but lacking in story and characters. World and traveling was awesome. Combat was really unbalanced thanks to the Skells and very very grindy. The online features also were very unnecessary.

[@choronderniere8732]

I'm playing it right now and omg, I feel like I missed so much on my first playthrough which took me 80 hours already. I'm at 100+ now and I'm shook by all the things to unlock thrrough side quests

[@lucasrinaldi9909]

@@xSpyroTheDragon Nah. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is amazing.

[@dragopy2410]

Xenosaga I for me. The game always has special place in my heart.

[@toughgamer2960]

and the theme songs in the very original xenogears - it's so beautiful, I still sing them sometimes after 20 years.

[@rad4924]

If Xenogears had been given the time and budget it deserved to see it made to its full potential, it probably would have been the greatest video game of all time. I'd love nothing more than to see it remade.

[@brotbrotsen1100]

Iirc it had the time and budget but the team wasn't expirenced enough when it comes to planning according to the lead developer, when they worked on xenoblade chronicles Nintendo gave them a expirenced project planer and they pretty much made exactly the product they wanted to create and by now they gathered the experience they need.

[@puppetMattster]

Xenogears isn't just a great game, it's one of the best pieces of philosophical literature in the last 30 years.

[@onneshendrata754]

I hope Xenogears gets the remake it deserves.

[@King__John95]

Same with xenosaga

[@Diamoondust]

​@@King__John95saga needs a remaster but half of it isnt narrated by a guy on a chair lol

[@truthan-jy4uw]

Average: Xenoblade 1 (mainly) and 2 people arguing wich of the Xenoblade games are the best ( of corse not including other Xeno series games, because they haven’t played them yet) Chad: Xenosaga/ Xenogears (Xeno- series) enjoyer thinking of how mind-fucking good this storys were, and coming together with other fans to talk about theories that connect all Xeno Universes( including Xenoblade), wile appreciating every masterpiece monolithsoft has made for this toxic fan base Bonus: Chad: Xenoblade X Fans explaining why X isn’t bad, and why you need to get into the world building with sidecontent Average: Xenogears fans saying every other Xeno game is bad without even playing one of them, because they only play old squaresoft rpg gems

[@Artimes.]

Scale in PS1 games also were not hindered by graphical advances like games are today so Playstation 1 games just had alot more volume and scope to them in terms of their writing, story and worlds. Xenoblade looks huge from the outset but if you think about it, it only has like 5 major city hubs, compared to most PS1 rpgs which had massive worlds spanning multiple continents and like 30 or even some times 40 different towns and NPC hubs. The pS1 was truly unrivaled and i think was the peak of rpgs in my opinion. It allowed developers to really create an "epic" with no restrictions or limitations.

[@XBC3-4GOTY]

XenoBlade Chronicles Definitive Edition is a MasterPiece and it’s in my Top 10 Games of All Time with XenoBlade Chronicles 3

[@cuckoophendula8211]

While I haven't played all of them, actually glad to see that Xenosaga 2 is in last place here. Ugh... that combat system, and the side quests were a series of chores

[@Lvl_251]

Naw my fave I litterly 100% that game it's if u actually just look at a walkthrough u can do all the sidequests super fast

[@makhailtalinio]

XENOGEARS BEST RPG OF ALL TIME...I WISH THEY WILL HAVE A REMAKE OF THIS GAME IS PS4 PS5 PC...THE MUSIC AND STORY REALLY IS THE WORK OF A GENIUS MAYBE EVEN GUIDED BY GOD

[@CloudOmegaVII]

Better not, because they will destroy it like they did it with FF7 Remake.

[@shadowlibrarian400]

I would be fine with a remaster of all the older games, like gears and saga. 😁

[@muhsetio]

if they end up remaking it, Takahashi must supervise it.

[@Jed_the_Malamute]

@@muhsetio Thus, it would have to be Switch exclusive (Nintendo has owned Monolithsoft since 2007)

[@muhsetio]

@@Jed_the_Malamute 😭

[@akhandtripathipyz9888]

Xenogears deserves to be number 1

[@JamestheXennial]

Xenogears is my favorite video game of all time. I'll keep hoping a remake happens one day, even if it will almost assuredly never happen.

[@MrRPGcrazy]

Good video. This is my ranking. 1. Xenosaga 3 2. Xenoblade 1 3. Xenogears 4. Xenosaga 1 5. Xenoblade 2 6. Xenosaga 2 7. Xenoblade X

[@blaze45ful]

Nice ranking!

[@cubes7356]

Seeing blade above Saga 3 kinda melted my mind for a moment Personally goes favourite top to bottom Gears Saga 3 Blade 2 Saga 1 Blade 1 XBX Torna Saga 2 If XBX got a sequel... Oh boy, probably be above Blade 1

[@muhsetio]

lol you have nearly same taste with me. xeno2 truly a mess. (i heard it because takahashi was absent) Blade2 is great? might trying it later.

[@Luckeh_]

@@muhsetio Xenoblade 2 IMO is the best blade game

[@cemarz]

It'll age like milk. The chronicle games have new combat system flavors and so they gain extra appeal. But in the years to come the standard system will change and that system too will feel dated, slow and the world poor. Just as the Saga and Gears games were fated to. But the stories of chronicles are no where near the league of the saga or gear games. And that is forever.

[@maryellenlynch7955]

So in my first playthrough of Xenoblade Chronicles 2 I didn't get KOS-MOS until right before I beat the final boss but the second playthrough I got KOS-MOS before I even got Morag

[@S-TeC84]

"I'm Alpha and Omega"... everyone that has played the "the game" should live on island together.

[@drewcoleman1158]

I mind getting Xeonsaga 2 and being obsessed with the game as a kid. I waited years and years to find the prequel or the eventual sequel only to find that Scotland only got 2. To this day I’m still a tad bitter about it. 😅🙃

[@tigmo55]

Love your final comments man. Xenogears is the PERFECT game to remake next!

[@gannjar]

Xenogears is debest RPG of ALL THE TIME hahaha...

[@CycloneFox]

It's very hard for me to really pick favorites over each other because I love all three franchises for other things. So if I had to rank them, I'd put one for each franchise in the top three. And for me personally this top three would include Xenosaga Episode III, Xenogears and Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Of course with the previously set rule, Xenogears wins this spot by default because it's the only "gears", but it also deserves to be in the top 3 easily. Next to Xenosaga it has the deepest story but without even the need of three games building up the world. And on top of that the music and characters are awesome. It is one of these golden-age JRPGs that everyone has to play and an absolute classic. As said in the video, Xenosaga Episode III just excels the other Xenosagas at everything. And on top of that it has the best JRPG cast I've ever seen. I just love these characters. In my opinion they are even above Xenogear's cast, which was already incredible. The only other JRPG that I see rival Xenosaga's cast is the one of the first Nier, but for very different reasons. Episode III also manages a miracle in how it does the impossible and gives this epic trilogy a not only worthy but great ending. It was the ultimate swansong to the series ans the PS2 after Monolith got bought by Nintendo and is the graphically most impressive PS2 game of all. It's one of my favorite games of all time. Picking Xenoblade 2 over 1 may be a bit controversial. And the reasons are very personal. At first the emphasis on the huge open world and exploration was a big let down for me, along with the switch of platforms. Xenoblade 2 was much more a turn back to what I loved about the Xeno-series. And I know graphics aren't everything and Story is more important, but a big appeal of Xenosaga was always how good the character models looked and the first Xenoblade was such a step back from what was achieved on PS2 already. With Xenoblade 2, character models finally looked just as good as on PS2 again, but the whole exploration part and all the stuff that Xenoblade does so good comes on top of it. (Good thing that the Definite Edition solves most of the problems I had with the first Xenoblade. I'm still currently playing that ^^) And so, because I love Xeno games so much for their deep character-driven stories, I pick those three games.

[@markuxx7409]

Hi, great video. It's a shame that I have not played any of the Xenoblade titles (but I´ll try to get them all). Having played Xenogears and the Xenosaga trilogy I can say those games are something special, and personally, I love XG and XS Episode III the most. Saludos desde México.

[@57575756]

Xenosaga 1 is still my favorite RPG, with Xenogears a close second.

[@dannysimion]

I grew up with the Xenosaga series and love Kos-mos. I’m currently trying watch Xenogears gameplay. I definitely wanna play Xenoblade Chronicles in the future but man, that’s a really long game lol

[@pedrobeckup456]

Xenoblade is long, but the time pass flying when you play it

[@dannysimion]

@@pedrobeckup456 I agree. I picked up XC3 and you know what, I friggen love that game. I won’t download the final DLC until I play 1 and 2 so I know the other characters role in the grand scheme of the storyline.

[@pedrobeckup456]

@@dannysimion I am happy you enjoyed :)

[@Xenowolf8]

Xenoblade Chronicles 1 is my favorite game of all time.

[@pedrobeckup456]

Hello Alvis! One of the bladiest blades!

[@clampfan101]

I’ve only played Xenosaga 1, but absolutely loved what I watched.

[@Crimsonrain13]

I just love your videos dude. While I haven't gone through as many titles as you clearly, it would appear we come from the same generation of gaming and I agree with your opinions spot on. Thank you

[@HellFireRPGs]

Thanks for the feedback! It was a great era to grow up playing games in :)

[@shaifs5072]

Fellow Xenogears lover here. My ranking of personal enjoyment is: Xenogears > Episode 1 > Episode 3 > XC1 > Episode 2 > XC2 > XCX. I love all the games however.

[@Gambenoful]

Who remembers playing Xenosaga when it first came out and having to wait forever for the squeal to drop after the end of the first game? That was so brutal for me.

[@noctissama3146]

Xenosaga 1 never came to Europe so I played the second one first and I thought when I saw the box that it was sequel to xenogears 😅

[@chakroc]

All I will say is this...I'm a fully grown man who has been playing video games for 3+ decades, and I'm not ashamed to say that at the end of Xenosaga 3, I may have gotten a tad emotional. For me, that's a testament to the story and characters. Even with the problems of Xenosaga 2, that series is still among my all tike favorites, probably only behind Chrono Trigger(which is my favorite game of all time). Shion saying goodbye to KOS-MOS for the final time will get me every time. Shame those games(and Xenosaga) never got the respect they deserve.

[@RotaFury]

So i've only played XenoGears and XenoSaga1, I have to say Xenogears is one of my all time favorite game's period! Right there with Legend of Dragoon and FF7. I've always considered picking up Xenoblade and may end up doing so soon. None the less i can say for sure if they ever rereleased Xenogears with updated graphics....i'd likely buy it twice.

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

Xenogears is probably the best game over made, now regarding Xenoblade, the Chronicles III is great and the expansion is amazing.

[@astaynax7531]

To be honest I had the list done in my head when I seen the title of the video and apparently you and I think very much alike with this series

[@Xenobears]

I was lucky enough to get Xenogears when it first came out. Even with all of its flaws, it was still one of my favorite games growing up and kind of spoiled me for story depth and complexity. So many other games just felt… lesser after I experienced the intricate relationships, deep philosophical and religious themes, and fun, but not over complicated combat. You have bad guys who all have their own problems and goals, character arcs, and distinctive personalities. The hero has a good reason to refuse the call to action (because of all the trauma he went through). The romance is actually meaningful and well developed-not just the product of “well, you have two attractive people standing next to each other; let’s have them hook up at the end!” It’s far from perfect, but it’s still a great game well worth your time if you like giant robots, deep plots that go well beyond a simple surface analysis, and being allowed to turn your party into DBZ fighters who leap into the air and ki blast foes to death.

[@BinaryDood]

though I love the story and lore of Xenogears are unmatched, characters are one thing where I wouldnt give it such praise. Except the villains. Graph, Id, Miang and Krellian ar all top tier.

[@Arthirias]

Elly and Fei are good as is Citan. Remember Id and Grafh are him/Abel

[@dadinou293]

@@Arthirias Small correction, Grafh isn't Abel, he is Lacan's will. Result of his incomplete contact with the Zohar.

[@VegaNCalleDQuesT]

Nothing beats the original. Which speaks volumes when it in itself was incomplete. Great Vid, subbed.

[@hexyearhexyear]

I have yet to play Xenoblade 2, and Xenoblade X but here's mine: 5. Xenosaga Episode II - I like the game overall and don't remember any of the issues with the combat or art style that others have pointed out. Mostly I wish the game wasn't so myopic in telling Jr's story; in the context of the whole series it feels really weird. The music also had some very strange tracks that I don't personally enjoy going back to much though they are interesting and adventurous. 4. Xenosaga Episode I - Overall a really solid journey, really sets the stage for an epic story in a way that keeps the intrigue and hooked me in. The music that was here was pretty good, but not Mitsuda's best IMO. Walking through the 'dungeon' areas to the sounds of footsteps was...a curious choice. 3. Xenoblade Chronicles - Amazing experience with a fascinating story but what kept me hooked for sure was the joy of exploring the different parts of the world, the fun and vibrant cast, and the top top tier OST. The battle system was an even better version of FF XII's (a game I also really like) MMO/Single-player RPG hybrid. A special game that I am glad people now respect and recognize. 2. Xenosaga Episode III - From the moment I heard the final boss music of this game before I even played Episode I I knew it would be epic and worth every bit. And it was. A steep curve to start to reboot your sense of the world, it's story, and the terminology, but once you're in it shines with a brilliant OST, the best battle system in the series (esp the E.S. battles), and a true feeling of satisfaction at it's conclusion. Brilliant. 1. Xenogears - You hit the nail on the head in your take. Despite it's 2nd disc shortcomings the experience looms so large in it's story and scope of it's characters journeys that it overcomes that jarring shift between discs. It's an experience I'll remember forever and has for me the single greatest OST of any game I have ever played. I go back to it regularly to relive the sensation of that games world. They can remake it or not, it won't matter to me as I'll always have the original gem.

[@Zenaltra]

Really feel like I need to give Xenosaga 3 another try. I hated it when it first came out, the lengthy cutscenes within the first few hours made me drop it. But *everyone* else ranks it higher than 1 and 2 - there's gotta be a reason for that.

[@uchihasilver8362]

I love the xenoblade chronicles games and honestly my only issue is my god I wish they were also on PC to really push those graphics to what they deserve to be

[@kain1799]

Finally playing through xeno 2 and I feel like the story telling was really interesting even if it wasn't following all the main characters. I really liked what it did honestly. Like the game is obviously flawed and is both as bad and not nearly as bad as people made me believe.

[@500features]

Yes, I didn't know I've been waiting for this video!

[@wezyr1]

Another great video on my beloved Xeno series and I 100% agree with your order of games.Long live Xeno series!

[@HellFireRPGs]

Glad you like them!

[@genemauldin5931]

In the unlikely event that Xenogears ever gets a remake, I hope they don't move to a real-time battle system like in the FF7 remake, as well as it was done, I think it would take away from the fun of Xenogears combo-based combat.

[@gaignum792]

Xenosaga III. So much fun, gets better and better more you get into it. Ties the whole series together beautifully. One of the very best. Sad you have to have a ps2 to play it. I miss you Rubedo.

[@Irraptured]

Luckily that last part isn't true. And with PS stores shutting down, I feel far less guilty emulating all these. Excited to hop into them! Gonna start with Xenosaga or Xenogears first methinks.

[@SanDisk4GB4]

I’ll be honest, i loved the 2nd Xenoblade way more than the first.

[@lionec226]

Waifus?

[@SanDisk4GB4]

@@lionec226 Gameplay, story, OST and characters... i preferred them all.

[@robslams2324]

@@SanDisk4GB4 yea but shulk is actually like all shredded and not a bitch boy.

[@FireflyIsSamusAranSister]

@@robslams2324 shulk is 18 years old and rex 15 what do u expect

[@vulcan4d]

No RPG will be ever as good as Xenogears

[@HellFireRPGs]

Fingers crossed something else will match it. Otherwise, it's an RPG veterans best kept secret

[@Foun_D_OnePiece]

As a time traveler from the future. Xenowars is the best game hands down. Although people did enjoy the Xeno-Warriors spin off game...

[@sternritter8532]

my xeno rank list is: 5th Xb X 4th Xbc2 & Torna 3rd XS 1,2,3, & Etc... 2nd XG 1st XBC 1 & FC

[@bonelessthincrust]

I'm only here to make sure Xenogears is #1

[@EnelXC]

Completely disagree with saying the Xenogears cast is better than the Xenosaga cast. I felt the saga cast was easily the best in all of videogames and a huge step up from gears. I personally like the story of saga better also but that's atleast a bit closer to me. My order would honestly be a lot different from this personally but it was a good watch.

[@WatteTv]

Totally agree the Xeno cast is better then gears cast

[@sammykneen]

Yeah the Saga cast is by far the most fleshed out cast I’ve ever seen in a videogame.

[@Norel_Nieves]

👀 Saga cast, was mostly a copy of gears. Chuchu >>> half the saga cast

[@WatteTv]

@@Norel_Nieves proof you guys aren't fans. Shion and Allen are the blood line which leans to Citan. There is a purposeful connection to all Saga characters to gears in the official works

[@weltall7283]

No other cast has ever impacted me like Saga's. To this day, saga 3's ending is the only story to ever actually make me start crying

[@Taikaru]

This is far and away my favorite series! Definitely agree with Xenogears being #1, but am always surprised when Xenoblade is ranked ahead of Xenosaga. I've only completed an estimated 80% of XB1, but it's loaded with open world elements and bland sidequests, with a story that doesn't seem as grounded as Gears/Saga. But the commercial results seem to speak to my preference being in the minority (or Blade's marketing being way better, at least.) I still feel their market analysis is mistaken and remasters would make a ton with today's level of recognition. Looking forward to the day when I can properly complete the Xenoblades and form a complete opinion. I wish there was a way to import my saves from the Wii version to the Switch HD.^^

[@MajorStaticX]

Xenogears is So Good I still have the Discs, I loved the Fighting System, and the Giant Robots, They really need to Remake it and make a sequel

[@ml_serenity]

Funny thing never realized that Xenoblade and Xenogears are related... Amazing games, but for sure Xenogears is faaar, far ahead of them all.

[@xenobreyden]

I personally prefer xbc1 over xg1 but both are top 5 best games for me

[@gemstation6060]

One of my favorite serie. 1. Xenosaga Episode 3 2. Xenogears 3. Xenoblade 1 4. Xenosaga Episode 1 5. Xenoblade 2 6. Xenoblade X 7. Xenosaga Episode 2

[@-lord1754]

Xenosaga 3 is a masterpiece

[@pokeleoantiqua7326]

The Xeno franchise is a masterpiece franchise Every game is amazing

[@HellFireRPGs]

Totally agree. I can't wait for the next. I don't mind if it isn't another Xenoblade. I would love them to try something new.

[@craigboden2435]

Playing the ps1 xenogears right now and loving it!

[@SuperLaiceps]

I'm really glad knowing that I'm not the only one who thinks xenogears story is the best jrpg story of all time. I mean even in the anime you cant find any story as deep and as brilliant like this one.

[@220damien]

Yessss,please remake xenogears. I hope some team, like the newly created eiyuden chronicles team , will come to light and decide on recreating xenogears, and going much further of making the whole story of xenogears as games.

[@Tyrael007]

im curently working on the series backwords, iv finished Xenoblade Chronicles X 1 and 2 and curently playing torna, then im gone play saga that iv never played befor then tackle xenogears agen, got stuck in it back in the day and never finished it so im looking forword to it, but man the games are black holes when it comes to time :) love it

[@lindenstromberg6859]

1. Xenogears 2. Xenoblade Chronicles X 3. Xenoblade Chronicles 4. Xenosaga Episode 1 5. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 + Torna 6. Xenosaga Episode 3 7. Xenosaga Episode 2

[@lindenstromberg6859]

Yeah, my list is very different from yours for some picks. Particularly with Xenosaga Episode 3 and XCX. Xenosaga Episode 3 had some interesting events, but I didn't enjoy the game as much as the first - my issue is that the story didn't flow, it was a series of contrived events. The first game had a MUCH more organic feel to it, the characters were far more relatable, and I really wanted to dig into that universe. But it felt like they didn't really know how to follow it up in the sequels, the writing lost its voice. Also, I didn't think the art style of the third game was as good as the first, it also has lower production values. Xenoblade Chronicles X was a compelling concept, it has the best graphics of any Xenoblade/Xenosaga game to date, and the gameplay DESTROYS the other games. XCX is also one of the four games I played over 200 hours on with a single save - the other games being Witcher 3, Dragon Quest 9, and Breath of the Wild. I loved the pacing of this game more than anything, there was always something to do, something to discover - and alongside Crusader Kings 2, Witcher 3, Dragon Quest 9, and Breath of the Wild, is one of my top 5 favourite games of the past decade. Xenogears is my favourite game of all time.

[@lindenstromberg6859]

XCX I want to see expanded on - I really couldn't get enough of the concept of "What if a city from Earth landed on an alien planet?"

[@jakeausten9673]

Your list is identical to how I’d rank the games.

[@jakeausten9673]

@@lindenstromberg6859 I agree entirely on XS3 being overly contrived or forced. I think few people see that as a problem because so many Marvel and blockbuster films these day do the same thing, almost like they wrote them backwards instead of having a character driven plot.

[@jhon1406]

Xenogears will have to be my next Xeno game then!

[@LunaFaye17]

The highs of Xenogears are some of the highest points in gaming history. It definitely has some flaws but the things it does well are unmatched. XC1 might be an overall better product when weighing pros and cons but it doesn't hit the heights that Gears did. Tough to say what matters more.

[@brndn31107]

I 100% agree with this ranking! The only one I can't speak to is Xenoblade X as I didn't play that one. Here's to hoping for a Switch Port!

[@monadoboy88]

I’ve only played xenoblade 1, xenoblade 2, xenogears, and a little bit of Xenosaga 1 and xenoblade x. Xenoblade 1 is my favorite game of all time, and xenoblade 2 and xenogears are also really good. I’m not sure how I feel about Xenosaga 1 and xenoblade X, but from what I’ve played, I don’t like them as much as the others

[@ivangarciaramos3940]

Xenogears deserves a proper remaster.

[@donbasuradenuevo]

Rather than a Xenogears remake, just a remaster would be great !

[@PomuLeafEveryday]

Yeah, I'm not sure how I'd imagine a remake would go without Takahashi, since Square Enix owns XenoGears, and Takahashi now works under Monolith Soft for Xenoblade. I refuse to play a redo of the game that wasn't directed by him, since without Takahashi it's not a Xeno game. Just what did Square Enix do to FF7 smh

[@ErickLandonRPG]

Awesome video, mate. I myself haven't ranked this series cause I've still yet to play Xenoblade X and the original Xenoblade 2. What made you treat the Xenosaga trilogy separatedly but not Xenoblade 2 and Torna? (Aren't they 2 different games with their own story?

[@HellFireRPGs]

Thanks Erick. Torna could have easily been treated separately but my main considerations were that Xenoblade 2 was a complete game without it, and Torna was a much smaller experience on terms of length and scope. If it was separate, I would probably rank it around the XS1 mark.

[@zeal9442]

Personally, I would switch Xenoblade and Xenogears with each other, simply because Xenogears' second disc was rushed during development and it's story was all over the place. (It's a great story, don't get me wrong, but it can be difficult to follow along if you're not paying attention.) Xenoblade's story on the other hand, while also complex, is more straightforward and it allows you to piece it together without having your brain explode trying to figure out what the hell is going on. Xenoblade also has the better gameplay in my opinion. Other than those nitpicks though, great video!

[@turtlebugs2859]

X is my personal favorite, but honestly all the games are the best and X being at the top is mostly due to it being my first Xeno game. I sadly never got to play gears and saga myself, and was stuck watching the cutscenes instead, but the stories of both of those are fantastic.

[@Chuggsy22]

Good list, but recently replaying xenogears just puts it a step below how I remembered it. 3/4 of an exceptional cast, traded for a perfect story. I also believe the combat is worse than that of xenosaga 3 or xenoblade 2, but I'm fairly certain that wasn't a larger focus in the listing. Finally, disc 2 is rather iconic for how unfortunately skimmed over it was, almost completely due to the game's deadlines. The takeaway: xenogears' rushed development and lack of refinement in the second disc unfortunately means it's not as polished as most of the other titles... therefore, it could be moved lower than the likes of xenoblade 1 and 2. (I still absolutely adore it, and regard it as a masterpiece, like all of the xeno games)

[@hepwo91222]

Yeah, I agree, love Xenogears, but it's unfinished, not reaching its full potential. Wish there was a finished version in a remake. Keep the turn based combat, graphics, music, everything, just expand on that visual novel in the last disc where it lacks much gameplay and I would be thrilled.

[@pedrobeckup456]

I played Xenoblade 1, than Xenoblade 1 again, than Xenogears and than Xenoblade 2.... And I must say, though Xenogears's story is clearly the deepest, I prefer Xenoblade 1 over it because the game really resonated with me, it was the most amazing experience I had, the plot was easier to understand to someone like me and the motivation of Shulk, his greatness as a character, the amazing world, the amazing characters close to him, the plot twists, the soundtrack... But I must say I just started to aprecciate it after the second playthrough, and I haven't done that with Xenogears, I couldn't even process every aspect of its story or remember decently, I am pretty sure if I replay it someday I will like it more than I do, I hope it will be in a remake with a better gameplay Than I played Xenoblade 2 and... It has really some deep themes, and I think I could understand everyone of them, philosophy about the motivations of the characters, understand the world, and understand Xenoblade 1 world too, and that was Incredibly incredible The story resonate with me as XC1 did, even more than the first playthrough, I even cried in this game a lot! (what happened with Xenoblade 1 but at the 2° playthrough) But I can't say each one is better because each one are amazing and marked me a lot in the same or in different ways and by good memories mostly The Xenos that are missing for me is every Xenosaga, Xenoblade X and 3

[@maximnietokramskoi5728]

Yup, xenogears music. One of the best memories is Grahf there.

[@royblue87]

Xenogears my favorite game of all time

[@jessicamorris6391]

I really hope the Remaster the Xensaga game, I love these games so much,

[@TheDeathwhish]

Xenosaga is more likely to happen than Xenogears, so there's hope I guess.

[@Pfizer980]

I hope xenogears have a remake or at least a remastered but with additional story or remake the part which was the disc 2 that was being rushed. Such a shame

[@dick8689]

Xenogears should get a HD-2D remake.

[@NelCelestine]

Xenogears deserves some polish yes but please do not remake it like FF7. Keep it turn based with the same combat system.

[@rudidellama3718]

Xenogears even after about 20 years since I played the first time still is my favorite RPG, the only rpgs that comes close for me(out of all that I have played) is Suikoden 2 and FFIX. I really want to try Chrono Cross, I'm having a felling that it'll join this three masterpieces

[@clivedoe9674]

Have you played Chrono Trigger?

[@rudidellama3718]

@@clivedoe9674 Yes, actually I want to replay before I go to cross since it has been a long time that I played. It didn't blow my mind or anything at the time I just thought it a fine game, maybe on replay I'll change my mind

[@rudidellama3718]

@Shaman Xeed I played for the first time a few months ago, the game definitely is really good (only did the B ending) but what turns me off is the english dub, I know the PSP version has a undub patch, but that was a port of the inferior japanese release of the PSX game, and as far as I know the image is stretched which can affect the use of CRT shaders (on retroarch that is)

[@pedrobeckup456]

​@@rudidellama3718I played Chrono Trigger before Xenoblade 1 but I ended dropping it and didn't beat. So I beat Xenoblade 1 and became an RPG fan, then I finally beat Chrono Trigger. But yes, it is not as mind-blowing after that, it depends on the experience of each one with the games, who played in the 90s might like it even more

[@rudidellama3718]

@@pedrobeckup456 Its old comment of mine, I did end up replaying Trigger and actually playing Cross later, I'll say that Trigger really hold up very well, feel like a timeless game in a way, but not in my personal best (most comes down to taste I suppose) Funny that you said Xenoblade 1, I tried years ago the Wii version and dropped half way through, last year I tried the Remake and enjoyed quite a bit, didnt fall in love or anything, I actually enjoyed alot more X, that game was something else even if the story is alright

[@protohunters]

Only change I’d make is switch 1 and 2. Great list!

[@waltlock8805]

The six episodes was cocktail napkin planning. The three Xenosaga games (including the missing year) would have been the first two games out of the six.

[@3abdooogamer734]

Now I can't wait for Xenoblade 3

[@VncentValntine]

Xenogears lacks polish but the passion behind it's creation more than makes up for it.

[@carlohermosillo5204]

This is my list: 7. Xenoblade X 6. Xenosaga 2 5. Xenoblade 1 4. Xenoblade 2 3. Xenogears 2. Xenosaga 3 1. Xenosaga 1 Ep. 1 will always be my favorite with a deep a inmersive universe. Actually a like de no music on dungeons thing, it makes the experience a bit introspective a I like that.

[@srswriter1165]

Of the ones I've played: 1) Xenosaga 3 (favourite game of all time, brilliant story, world and characters) 2) Xenosaga 1 (fantastic game but fights get a little tiresome around the final 2-3 dungeons) 3) Xenogears (interesting themes, world and concepts, but the characters and parts of the story felt a little flat and tropey to me and the pacing was really bad. I'll admit that I think the overwhelming amount of hype I'd heard that it was the best game ever with the most well written story and characters soured my experience.) 4) Xenosaga 2 (love Xenosaga in general, but the character design was wonky and the battles lasted way too long in this one) I realise I'm in the minority but compared to Xenogears, Xenosaga's world, story, and characters felt like they were much richer, more engaging and relatable. The character arcs were also much more fulfilling, the music (especially in 3) was a godsend, and the ending was beautiful, thrilling, and tragic. I'd love to see all three remade with Xenosaga 3's artstyle and combat. I'm a little sad that the developers have moved on to Xenoblade, as, from what I've seen, in spite of being a great and well polished set of games, they seem to have abandoned a lot of what made Xenosaga (and Xenogears) so compelling, thought provoking and unique.

[@Jed_the_Malamute]

I disagree! Pyra/Mythra are essentially a new take on Fei's Dissasociative Identity Disorder where instead of the protagonist having it there are actually two seperate people the protagonist (Rex) gets to know who inhabit the same body. Also, XC2 carries a lot of the themes of Xenogears. Spoiler alert: Amalthus is a WAYYY better Krelian character. He hates the world for losing a loved one, but instead of literally being forgiven for his atrocities, one of the characters he hurt the most (and is one of the central villains for most of the main game and a protagonist for the DLC campaign), Jin kills him instead. Amalthus is the cause for literally creating/influencing all of the major villains. Also, I know it's fanservicey. It's unfortunate. However, I think XC2 has a great story, excellent gameplay, and is overall another labor of love from Monolithsoft and Takahashi.

[@srswriter1165]

@@Jed_the_Malamute Thanks for the reply. I do intend to play the Xenoblade games and give them their fair shake (need to get my hands on a Switch first) and I'm not dismissing the series' story or gameplay at all. I think what turns me away from them, personally, more than the fanservice which I can tolerate (Drakengard/Nier games are full of fanservice and don't really bother me), is that the games feel like they have lost their more mature edge and are much more shounen oriented (if we're using anime terms). Part of this is reflected in the change of artstyle and the move towards less sci fi and more fantasy world building. The philosophical and psychological elements, while obviously not absent (as you have demonstrated), also feel like they've been dialed way back. This is also reflected in the protagonists. Comparing Fei and, especially, Shion to Shulk and Rex, the two sets of protagonists feel as though they're aimed at different demographics. It's a design and narrative choice that I can respect, but it means that the Xenoblade games don't really appeal to me personally, at least on a surface level, as much as Gears and especially Saga do. I'll be more than happy to be proven completely wrong when I play them though. Maybe they'll hook me just as much as the others have.

[@robslams2324]

i just started playing xenoblade chronicles 3D again, going to try and beat it this time. its actually quite nice and sucks me in on the 3ds and the 3d effect is really nice i think. it adds depth to the environment and all the players health bars and the damage numbers are nice in 3d and the test boxes in 3d are nice too. you really get used to the somewhat small screen of the xl and still get the huge epic scope if you play in a room that is not super bright and wear headphones. the graphics are actually quite detailed on things if u move in close on them and move the camera, i was surprised at the little effects and detail.

[@TheDropPodCast]

I love ff1-9 I mean really love them, Saga Frontier, legend of dragoon, there were so many great. But Xenogears is literally the greatest God damn game and story ever written. It is a masterpiece thst then broke the mold and not one single story through a video game has ever come even minutely close. If I were to stst a church it would be the church of Xenogears.

[@ShionShinigami]

Why did anime art style back then always look more adult than those cuties they draw nowadays?🤔

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

When something is influenced not by reality but by imagination follows an idealizei pattern that ends up being a distorsion of what things are.

[@jojoharder6906]

I meannnnnn Xenogears was literally the original blueprint for FF7 so it'd be pretty fitting if it got the same remake treatment as the FF7 Remake

[@darkinnovator2479]

I absolutely love the Xenosaga series, and found it a shame that it never got the attention it deserved, it deserves a remastering or even a remake. One thing they were missing from it I feel, is tying up the whole Messiah story arc. I felt that the Messiah in the very early Lost Jerusalem era was meant to be the manifestation of the collective subconsciousness, which was barely touched upon besides Gnosis being a the mass build up of modern day rejecting of it by those that died, and that the Messiah was meant to connect the collective subconscious to U-DO hence maintaining the balance of the Universe.