Ranking TV Character Tropes *bc i'm tired of love triangles*

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imuRgency

imuRgency

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@hyewonderfull
@hyewonderfull Жыл бұрын
where's the throuple trope
@imuRgency
@imuRgency Жыл бұрын
oh a full breakdown is coming in the next video ;)
@hyewonderfull
@hyewonderfull Жыл бұрын
@@imuRgency yessssss
@jmouay
@jmouay Жыл бұрын
lol it’s finna be that gopiss girl throuple~
@Juliette12368
@Juliette12368 Жыл бұрын
@@imuRgency I love how you put the friends to lovers trope infront of enid and wednesday 🤣 they aren't beating aligations ig
@galaxisinfernalis
@galaxisinfernalis Жыл бұрын
What about this one: the smart, sensitive, all round nice and atractive character dating a douchebag but actually in love with a much likable character. It's kinda like a love triangle but extra exasperating.
@modestoctopus14
@modestoctopus14 Жыл бұрын
My personal favorite trope is “the one who is overly flirtatious and the one who pretends to hate it but is secretly blushing”
@modestoctopus14
@modestoctopus14 Жыл бұрын
The “I’m being controlled and I’ve been ordered to kill you” “but I love you and you love me but do it anyway but not really” “you’ve broken the spell, I love you” is a fine one as well
@ootato2970
@ootato2970 Жыл бұрын
@@modestoctopus14 very specific lol
@arianal.merchan9869
@arianal.merchan9869 Жыл бұрын
Please, I NEEEEEED examples; books, series, movies, etc
@maxxie789
@maxxie789 Жыл бұрын
miraculous?
@Manar38656
@Manar38656 Жыл бұрын
YES OMGGGGGGGG
@andiman44
@andiman44 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Eric from Sex Education is a good example of the black/gay best friend trope that gives him his own storyline and character development outside of Otis and the other white characters.
@grlegrl
@grlegrl Жыл бұрын
The first season of the show was about subverting many of the classic tropes. Erick is an amazing example of how NOT to be that trope. It has the classic element of a self involved white CIS bff, but we got to see what that OTHER side of the trope looks like with Erick and it was [chef’s kiss]
@nootnootd9450
@nootnootd9450 Жыл бұрын
yes and eric also actively mentioned feeling side lined with otis' whole maeve situationship (tho i wasn't too happy with otis' reaction but not surprising since it's otis)
@minx.toesies2037
@minx.toesies2037 Жыл бұрын
absolutely love that show to bits i love how it gave every side character their own fully developed storyline and might i add adam was my fav character in the whole show,, truly one of those shows where u grow a bond with the characters and they feel like ur bestfriends. cant wait for season 4.
@rheathecreative5612
@rheathecreative5612 Жыл бұрын
One trope that I genuinely can not stand is Teacher/Student relationship one. It’s always the student that gets blamed for it even happening. To go into depth, if a man is a legit grown ass and the girl is literally high school aged, the girl is always being disciplined for it by her parents. Instead of it being the girl’s parents talking about it to the teacher and them being mad that person for actually committing an actual crime. Also, you are glowing. The fit + hair looks awesome on you.
@rheathecreative5612
@rheathecreative5612 Жыл бұрын
@@KristianalexisThanks for your comment.
@grlegrl
@grlegrl Жыл бұрын
Disgusting!!!!! That one needs to bypass the dungeon and go straight to burning in hell.
@butchbf2612
@butchbf2612 Жыл бұрын
The only thing that did this right was generation, but it’s sort of deconstruction of the trope (they were never together and the teacher ends up completely rejecting chester when he finds out that chester has feelings for him)
@butchbf2612
@butchbf2612 Жыл бұрын
I honestly hate that this is even a trope in the first place for so many reasons
@imuRgency
@imuRgency Жыл бұрын
thisssss !! and ty 🫶🏾
@jow2716
@jow2716 Жыл бұрын
Found Families, that trope will get me every time! Give me a group of distrusting misfits who have to reluctantly come together and slowly become best friends... I'm telling you: Every. Single.Time.
@g14nn4lol
@g14nn4lol Жыл бұрын
YESSS (i just read six of crows)
@miriann.1699
@miriann.1699 Жыл бұрын
Yes I love this! What shows do yk like this?
@luyolontozini884
@luyolontozini884 Жыл бұрын
@@miriann.1699 The Legend of Vox Machina, Avatar the last Airbender, The Owl House, Legend of Korra (but they suck at this) and Amphibia
@CaribbeanCitizen
@CaribbeanCitizen Жыл бұрын
You're right, it's excellence. Every. Time.
@GabbyOssi
@GabbyOssi Жыл бұрын
@@miriann.1699 Agents of Shield is my fave found family show!
@crakandra9672
@crakandra9672 Жыл бұрын
I think friends to lovers is done best when it's not heteronormative. It's so clear when a friends to lovers trope is actually written well and when it's a man and woman who they just threw together cause they happened to be standing right next to each other and were friends.
@sxmone2018
@sxmone2018 Жыл бұрын
Omg yes
@doccanigetsomecandy7809
@doccanigetsomecandy7809 Жыл бұрын
Yeah no I get what you mean cause there isn’t that much character who are a woman and a man who are friends so when you do put them together it’s very eyebrows raise or side eye like what are you doing
@unwelcomejohnny8933
@unwelcomejohnny8933 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@kunpunko
@kunpunko Жыл бұрын
yess
@CrispyDragons
@CrispyDragons Жыл бұрын
"Enemies to lovers" is also a lot more fun when it's not heteronormative.
@Brit15102
@Brit15102 Жыл бұрын
Miscommunication is my enemy I’ll drop something so quick if they add it in 😂
@imuRgency
@imuRgency Жыл бұрын
they LOVE miscommunication
@victoria4671
@victoria4671 Жыл бұрын
There's this book called kiss her once for me where the characters DO have open communication but the drama is still messy as fUck
@lilydrimm6626
@lilydrimm6626 Жыл бұрын
GOD YES? FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT!!!!! I've watched a 60 episode long c drama where it was so obvious they used that trop cause they didn't have enough plot to fill so much episodes.... It was so fucking annoying, plots that could've been resolved in 5 minutes took up whole 5 episodes to resolve and that *multiple* times. I hate it. I have ONE exception and it's a demon/human ship where there's a huge culture gap and the miscommunication just makes sense and is actually kinda funny. Other than that? HUGE red flag
@Etherealzyo
@Etherealzyo Жыл бұрын
Same
@andiman44
@andiman44 Жыл бұрын
I feel you on friends to lovers. Sometimes, I just want men and women/boys and girls to stay platonic. Like opposite sex friends never get to stay friends even in kids media.
@jojoboss9989
@jojoboss9989 Жыл бұрын
That's why i really like marshall abd robin from himym because they stayed platonic throughout the whole seasons
@lilydrimm6626
@lilydrimm6626 Жыл бұрын
YESSSS that is literelly where "friendzone" comes from. From little boys and little girls being told from a very early age that they can't have friends from the opposite sex cause it's bound to get romantic. Like I'm talking about whole parents shipping their own 4-year-olds with a random fucking child JUST because they were playing in the sand together. Like bffr. "Friendzone" doesn't exist. You're the one who's romanticzoning, Brandon.
@dixiereynolds9909
@dixiereynolds9909 Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠@@lilydrimm6626thiss also, those parents shipping their 4 year old kids of the opposite sex are the same type of parents to complain that modern cartoons and animated movies is “ is putting the children gay” or “sexualizing pre-teens and children”because it had LGBTQ+ characters in it. Either that or saying condescending shit like “you’re too young to know that” or “ what you’re going through the phase you will grow out of it “ but maybe even was abusing them, or kicking their TEENAGE/CHILD out of real life, resulting in them being homeless or killed, because they came out as queer
@ivy.y
@ivy.y Жыл бұрын
Love triangle hater nation RISE UP‼️‼️🗣🗣
@isabellekimpiob4920
@isabellekimpiob4920 Жыл бұрын
YESS!!!
@YourNjeiBee
@YourNjeiBee Жыл бұрын
No frrrr
@senselesslibraa
@senselesslibraa Жыл бұрын
YES!!
@ivy.y
@ivy.y Жыл бұрын
@Kristian Alexis for real! Now it’s just like a line, a love triangle is a TRANGLE, person A loves person B, but person B loves C, BUT person C loves person A. A real triangle. Now it’s just one person like someone who’s In love with someone else 😭
@vixenovas385
@vixenovas385 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU
@arenerys
@arenerys Жыл бұрын
15:15 I hate love triangles because it’s never a Triangle, it’s more of a “V” with a bolded , straight line to one guy and a faded, dotted line to the other. Like you clearly know who’s going to be endgame. The other guy is usually used a rebound/placeholder if the main guy/girl broke up with the main character or left. It’s so disingenuous because the new guy really likes/loves MC but MC is not fully invested😞. Classic example of this is in Twilight.
@wedontevenmakelovenomore
@wedontevenmakelovenomore Жыл бұрын
Ok but Bella and Edward deserve each other🌚 Bella and Jacob was a weird couple imo
@andiman44
@andiman44 Жыл бұрын
Yes! It is ALWAYS obvious who will get chosen; it’s never the slightest bit ambiguous
@trinityshadows5271
@trinityshadows5271 Жыл бұрын
It feels like whenever there's a love triangle "V" that if the writer(s) were able to produce two likable love interests, that the one not chosen would be given a character assassinating storyline to try to show why the chosen character makes the most sense. I always found that to be an unnecessary technique for the triangle trope because it destroys a character that was once cared for, usually in such a lazy and disjointed way that makes it wildly out of character for certain choices to be made for the sake of the plot.
@arenerys
@arenerys Жыл бұрын
@@wedontevenmakelovenomore It was very obvious in the movies but I do believe that Bella did love Jacob to some extent in the books. I remember a passage in the books where Bella was imagining a future with Jake up, and he did look happy together. I think that the main reason that Bella ended up with Edward is because she was enticed by the lifestyle of vampires and immortality. She was not able to get that with Jacob. Bella Swan had a fear of growing old.
@arenerys
@arenerys Жыл бұрын
@@trinityshadows5271 YESS!!!! I absolutely hate that so much. The examples I have in my head is in the Vampire Diaries when Stephen went through his Ripper phase again and was wilding out. So naturally, it made Damon look more favorably. (Side note: I wanted Damon and Bonnie to be a thing but Plec and her racist ass wasn’t having that). Another example of this is what happened in THG: Mockingjay with Katniss/Gale/Peeta, smh.
@solvjans5988
@solvjans5988 Жыл бұрын
for the "black cat + golden retriever" trope Aimee and Maeve from Sex Education popped into my head, I love their friendship so much! And I get that the "femme fatale" trope is well liked, I also find Georgia Miller's storyline very interesting, but I think we have to be careful not to romanticise or excuse the actions of these characters because they're hot and charismatic lol
@samira_360
@samira_360 Жыл бұрын
Idk why but I love the "main character loses everything" trope when its done right. Whether they failed to save something or they disconnect with the friends, family, literally everything. Whether is their fault or not. Especially when it leads up to that point and you can gradually see the reasons why. It's also interesting to see how they grow from that point It sounds like I want them to be miserable. And I do ❤
@abbie863
@abbie863 Жыл бұрын
Yesss! Like Peter Parker
@osheensharma6844
@osheensharma6844 Жыл бұрын
Kendall Roy lol
@one-onessadhalf3393
@one-onessadhalf3393 Жыл бұрын
Rango! Rango does this! And it’s good!
@alexjd1278
@alexjd1278 Жыл бұрын
That sounds like Do Revenge a little
@astrolothot182
@astrolothot182 Жыл бұрын
the last line made me giggle
@Juliette12368
@Juliette12368 Жыл бұрын
I'm in love with the Golden retriever and black cat trope but I feel like it can be done badly and don't get me started on the good girl turns bad trope! I feel like as soon as they turn into a bad girl their like "I'm not like other girls" like no😭😭 Also love the hair!!!!
@jadaharrell8189
@jadaharrell8189 Жыл бұрын
Shows or movies?👀
@Juliette12368
@Juliette12368 Жыл бұрын
@@jadaharrell8189 I guess it can be both 😊 thanks for asking
@jadaharrell8189
@jadaharrell8189 Жыл бұрын
@@Juliette12368 what shows have you watched with that trope?
@Juliette12368
@Juliette12368 Жыл бұрын
@@jadaharrell8189 ginny sort of represented this trope in season one and a bit in season 2. And in Gossip Girl with Jenny she sort of represented this trope when she became the it girl but was mean to Eric. I also saw this in Heartbreak High with Harper. Although she did have a reason to Rebelle. Those are some examples hope this helped 😊
@jadaharrell8189
@jadaharrell8189 Жыл бұрын
@@Juliette12368 thank you 🤍
@miriann.1699
@miriann.1699 Жыл бұрын
I feel like a love triangle could be interesting if done in a way where you actually don’t know who the main character is going to choose. Most of the time it’s pretty clear who they’re ending up with. Literally one relationship will have all this chemistry and the other one is so underdeveloped, and they expect us to be on the edge of our seats in anticipation lmao
@yasmineguerin2852
@yasmineguerin2852 Жыл бұрын
When its gay it's much better
@yasmineguerin2852
@yasmineguerin2852 Жыл бұрын
Also usually they pick the toxic one or both are unlikable
@chillmcdud07
@chillmcdud07 Жыл бұрын
good love triangles have to have one gay person tho
@ant3t3
@ant3t3 Жыл бұрын
i mean they always pick the white unstable bad boy lol this always happens
@Etherealzyo
@Etherealzyo Жыл бұрын
The second male/female lover interest tho 😭
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
I agree, I actually enjoy the "Bad Boy/Good Girl pairing, but it needs to be handled well. I hate the implications that a Bad Boy can only be redeemed by the love of a good woman. 🙄
@mariellebosco
@mariellebosco Жыл бұрын
cough cough after...
@alexschofield8085
@alexschofield8085 Жыл бұрын
The worst thing is when the girl is meant to “fix” the bad boy and teach him how to be good, as if that’s her job and as if she doesn’t deserve a genuinely good partner from the beginning. Or maybe the worst is when the bad boy is just straight up an abusive asshole (often abusive to everyone other than the good girl which doesn’t make it okay)
@one-onessadhalf3393
@one-onessadhalf3393 Жыл бұрын
Grease. Grease is the WORST example of this.
@alexschofield8085
@alexschofield8085 Жыл бұрын
@@one-onessadhalf3393 also the worst example of “good girl gone bad” because she does it entirely to be with him and just ugh it’s the worst
@crystalwang1532
@crystalwang1532 Жыл бұрын
The reverse of that (bad girl/good boy) runs into the same issue of the woman can only be saved by a good man
@jamiegdubois
@jamiegdubois Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite tropes is the “enemies to friends” trope, especially between two women. I love seeing two female characters who are initially pitted against each other (often because of a man) eventually bound and become close friends. Petra and Jane from Jane the Virgin as well as Valencia and Rebecca from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend are two great examples of this.
@lilydrimm6626
@lilydrimm6626 Жыл бұрын
Oh yesssss there's that feeling of feminist pride for me... Like hell yeah!! Make your relationship stop revolving around a man, let's fucking goooo!
@guineppe3405
@guineppe3405 Жыл бұрын
I think new girl did a great job with “friends to lovers” for Jess and Nick’s story line. Like we get to see why they’re friends, the relationship develop and go through different stages, and it’s a slow build to them getting together at the end.
@regularpotato
@regularpotato Жыл бұрын
If it's done well friends to lovers is my fav. But it has to be mutual pining and they can't childhood friends for me either. In Enemies to Lovers 9/10 times the two characters either arent really enemies or its just abuse... i love it when its good though Love triangles are usually done so lazily
@nanven
@nanven Жыл бұрын
my absolutely favorite trope is "friends to lovers", love to see characters who knew each other before they decided to move to a new stage of relationships.
@ariahernandez4279
@ariahernandez4279 Жыл бұрын
I will never get tired of you making yourself laugh at the start It always makes me smile haha
@ameliasellers6396
@ameliasellers6396 Жыл бұрын
Friends to lovers I like when they both gradually transition from a friendship to a relationship, but when it's just one person waiting for the other to catch feelings it's boring. I want some sexual tension, I want that changing dynamic and the uncertainty that comes with it because it is so fun to see.
@Chuuzus
@Chuuzus Жыл бұрын
nothing will ever beat the enemies to lovers trope
@Two_kids_inatrenchcoat123
@Two_kids_inatrenchcoat123 Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the black cat and the golden retriever trope because I love seeing the contrast in personality and aesthetic characters from opposite ends of the characters spectrum. i think what they did with both Enid and Wednesday was not let Wednesday walk all over Enid and there are scenes where Enid is standing up for herself, I'm glad the did that because most shows or movies with that trope have the golden retriever character be kinda Navïe.
@charliethelanastan3567
@charliethelanastan3567 Жыл бұрын
YESSS RUMI! I'm loving the hair and this new era is leaving no crumbssss!!!!
@kayla_mallen
@kayla_mallen Жыл бұрын
IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS. The hair is givinggg 💖💖
@LoraK31
@LoraK31 Жыл бұрын
I'm so surprised you put femme fatale at the top. It's awesome when it's done right, but when it isn't, it can be quite sexist. It can basically be an excuse to dress a lady super sexy and give her no personality because "she's mysterious" and the only person who can get through to her is the male character. My dad made me watch a lot of bad action movies with him as a kid, so maybe I just have some leftover cringe from seeing this trope done badly so many times lol
@alexschofield8085
@alexschofield8085 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I can’t think of a single time I’ve seen the femme fatale trope done right! The women are always oversexualised and underdeveloped. But if anyone has suggestions for shows or movies where it’s done right then I’d love to hear!
@elimo3901
@elimo3901 Жыл бұрын
@@alexschofield8085 I think the femme fatale can be really empowering, like a no bs kind of woman who can still be sexy. Villanelle in "Killing Eve", Jen and Judy of "Dead to me", "Jackie Brown" with Pam Grier, Audrey in "Twin Peaks", Sharon Stone in "Basic Instinct", Geena Davis in "The Long Kiss Goodnight", Rosamunde Pike in "Gone Girl", Megan Fox in Jennifer’s Body and all versions of Cat Woman in the Batman franchise.
@alexschofield8085
@alexschofield8085 Жыл бұрын
@@elimo3901 I totally agree that it’s great when done right! In the moment I just couldn’t think of any times when it truly had been done right (my terrible memory and terrible recall abilities have let me down once again). Although I knew surely there must be examples so I’m grateful for your list!
@ceci-y2z
@ceci-y2z Жыл бұрын
fr the woman always ends her femme fatal ways when she meets a good man too, but it hits every time before the "good man" shows up
@madisonjwallace
@madisonjwallace Жыл бұрын
I like friends to lovers most of the time but I also want to see characters who are attracted to each other be purely platonic. Normalize hetero men and women being friends. Normalize two gay men or two lesbians being JUST friends with each other. Not every relationship needs to have romantic undertones (or overtones).
@antarktiida
@antarktiida Жыл бұрын
i also hate love triangles but if someone made a polyamorous relationship plotline out of that then i would be the first to watch
@arianna2930
@arianna2930 Жыл бұрын
the bastard son & the devil himself does this !!
@lilydrimm6626
@lilydrimm6626 Жыл бұрын
Right now, i'm sad to announce that there isn't a lot of good polyam rep in tv.... There's of course tons of books so if you still like that, my fave is Iron Widow (it's a rewritting of chinese history but make it sci-fi/fantasy/mecha) I'm thinking really hard but i can only think of sub plots (like in Sense 8 but even then it's not that present)
@seducedbysasquatch
@seducedbysasquatch Жыл бұрын
Loss of innocence can be really good when it's used in genres like horror, psychological horror, etc. you have a character that is innocent and happy and loves life, then something tragic occurs (a family death, a zombie apocalypse...) and seeing those good aspects of their personality crumble can be so fascinating. I also do think it works well when discussing SA or r*pe in a show as well. It shows someone who had trust in others around them, and then after that traumatic incident, they lose all trust in those around them.
@delicatedream_z4105
@delicatedream_z4105 Жыл бұрын
I think it's interesting but i usually don't like it because it makes me sad to see people losing the best and brightest parts of themselves to traumatic incidents😓
@seducedbysasquatch
@seducedbysasquatch Жыл бұрын
@@delicatedream_z4105 I do agree it is really sad, however I find it sort of cathartic, especially when I can relate to the character!
@livrcollins
@livrcollins Жыл бұрын
the sun/moon trope and black cat/golden retriever trope are actually two separate tropes (although they often have the same characters)! sun/moon trope originated in queer cartoon fandoms where the sun character was often more heroic, charismatic and well-liked or just generally more outspoken and extroverted (think ruby from steven universe, adora from she-ra, luz from the owl house, korra from tlok, etc.). the moon character was often more calm and introverted and typically had some kind of tragic backstory, villainous streak and/or redemption arc (think sapphire from steven universe, catra from she-ra, amity from the owl house, asami from tlok, etc.). it's essentially an evolution of the red/blue gays trope. on the other end, the black cat/golden retriever trope is more of an evolution of the grumpy/sunshine trope that developed from adult straight romance novels. typically, the men were grumpy, jaded and reclusive and saved by these kind, bubbly and optimistic women in this trope, but it's changed a lot in recent years. it's honestly taken over most romance-adjacent genres and tv/movie content since it can be used so widely. i think recently these two tropes are pretty similar and honestly the lines between them have gotten really blurred. sun/moon isn't just for queer couples just as grumpy/sunshine isn't just for straight couples so it's kinda interesting to see how we see these tropes now (especially since they're adapting SO FAST). [sorry for this being so long i love media analysis]
@avril.m.l
@avril.m.l Жыл бұрын
For me I would have switched places for friends to lovers and good girl x bad boy. 9/10 times that trope is toxic af and the girl is always suffering because of the bad boy. Just my opinion.
@tinaisalexander9548
@tinaisalexander9548 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I mean Hardin and Tessa is a good example. My girl Tessa should’ve left a long time ago lol.
@bgs7529
@bgs7529 Жыл бұрын
The super loveable and charismatic father figure/mentor dying trope...... you see it coming from the moment the character is introduced yet still gets me everyyyytime
@desology444
@desology444 Жыл бұрын
i don’t know what the nick and jess (new girl) and jake and amy (Brooklyn 99) trope is, but I LOVE IT
@victoria4671
@victoria4671 Жыл бұрын
Friends to lovers
@poohbear2546
@poohbear2546 Жыл бұрын
One troupe that I have mixed feelings troupe is the rebound trope. Essentially it’s when the main character’s love interest did something wrong or the main character did something wrong so they split up so a throw away character comes in to give the mc a different experience. I mean sometimes it’s done right, like young royals, (I love that show) but most of the time it’s just done wrong just for the mc and love interest to get back together in the next season. 🤷🏼‍♀️
@grlegrl
@grlegrl Жыл бұрын
That’s not a a manic pixie dream girl. The point is that she DOESNT have development or depth. The best thing about Sex Education (season one in particular) is that they subverted many of the classic tropes (except Adam*). The manic pixie dream girl trope seems to be mis- or not fully understood. See Kristin Dunst in Elizabeth town, Natalie Portman in Garden State, or the mermaid chick from that old Tom Hanks film. A similar, but maybe slightly more distributing, trope is the Born Sexy Yesterday trope. PopCulture Detective has a video on this. I think he is the first to coin that term. An example of this trope is the main character on The 5th Element. There can also be some overlap between the two tropes. For instance that mermaid in that Tom Hanks movie is both. *There are two things so wrong with Adam’s character and story arch. The first the DL jock as stated in this video. The second is the enemy to lovers. My biggest issue with the second one is that one character is generally a bully to the other and then they suddenly date. And after dating the person never really changes or atones for their past behavior. I feel like the trope subtly normalizes toxic/abusive traits in a partner. It just makes me sick to watch. A perfect example of how horrible this trope is are the two chicks from The Wild on Amazon Prime. The one girl HATED the blonde chick for no apparent reason and never missed an opportunity to belittle, insult, and ridicule her. Then all of a sudden they hummpin’ in the wood?! WTF? It’s a dumb, lazy, and dangerous trope. Rant over. Lol
@alexschofield8085
@alexschofield8085 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! People seem to think that any quirky girl who stands across from a bland guy is a manic pixie dream girl? But the most important part of the trope is that she is entirely two dimensional and her sole purpose is to serve the male character (typically by teaching him how to have fun and be less bland) and once her purpose is fulfilled she is thrown to the side. And yes! Pop culture Detective’s video on born sexy yesterday is such a good watch!
@elimo3901
@elimo3901 Жыл бұрын
Totally! I didn't follow this as well in the presentation of the trope in the video. I also think Jessica, Natasha Lyonne's character in 'American Pie'. I remember watching it when it came out, yes older millennial here, and thinking she was such a cool character, but never had any real character development in the movie (like so many of the female characters). I'm glad Natasha Lyonne got her flowers later on with 'Orange is the new black', and 'Russian Doll'. I actually enjoyed 'Garden State', but can totally see your point.
@grlegrl
@grlegrl Жыл бұрын
@@elimo3901 I loved season one of Russian Doll! I remember watching American Pie back in they says of Blockbuster, but I only really remember the pie scene…unfortunately.
@grlegrl
@grlegrl Жыл бұрын
@@alexschofield8085 I don’t know why this comment made me think of the film version of Genny Wisely. Like what is it called then the main girl is completely one dimensional without a drop of personality and does nothing to serve the male lead or move the plot in away? Lol. I think it was your use of the word “bland”. Normally, in a hero’s journey we get characters like home girl from Deadpool 1. That girl worth fighting for or a love to avenge. But with Genny, the scenes with just her and Harry, after Chamber, could have been edited out and the story would barely change (only the Room of Requirement in 6 when they hid the book). That pisses me off in different, but similar way to the MPD trope. And even if they followed the books more closely she good have at least fallen under the “Cool Girl” trope. Why is it so hard to write a normal ass female? They are either a fantasy or plain yogurt at room temperature. **Sigh**
@dtw3260
@dtw3260 Жыл бұрын
A good enemies to lovers is gonna eat every timeee
@inesmn6220
@inesmn6220 Жыл бұрын
i don't stand with a gay friend without real character development, but Titus andromdodon makes the entire show and is as much developed then Kimberly in the seasons!! I absolutely love his character
@sxmone2018
@sxmone2018 Жыл бұрын
Yesss
@yasmineguerin2852
@yasmineguerin2852 Жыл бұрын
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@inesmn6220
@inesmn6220 Жыл бұрын
@@yasmineguerin2852 ??
@majecalatayud9868
@majecalatayud9868 Жыл бұрын
the Mindy Kailing trope yeees!!! i just realize even in Sex Lives of College girls is soooo obvious
@NisarKhan-jm1uh
@NisarKhan-jm1uh 11 ай бұрын
As well as in Never have i ever, The mindy project and Velma.
@courajess
@courajess Жыл бұрын
My issue with the loss of innocence trope is that they show the characters emphasizing their first time should be special and with someone they love for like most of the show, and how they love their partner and want it to be so special, but then they lose it to someone else for no special reason. I’m showing my age here (35), but I’m thinking of Brianna in One-on-One, and Blair in Gossip Girl. I’m not saying that losing your v-card to someone not special or special is the issue, it’s just that going from it must be special to it not being special without any reflection on the decision is the problem in the execution of the trope.
@rubyblu21
@rubyblu21 Жыл бұрын
I hate the love triangles where the main interest doesn't put the kibosh on the character they're not really interested in, like don't be a d!CK and go breaking hearts because your indecisive and don't know what you want!
@harmony8623
@harmony8623 Жыл бұрын
My favourite trope is probably forbidden love (but done right), with my favourite example so far being Juliette and Calliope in First Kill. Bonus points for sapphic romance 🙌🏻
@okiedokie2481
@okiedokie2481 Жыл бұрын
I love your hair Rumi✨💞
@imuRgency
@imuRgency Жыл бұрын
thank u
@efghd2624
@efghd2624 Жыл бұрын
The hair and the sweater are impeccable
@Linus644
@Linus644 Жыл бұрын
The bigger issue I have is how easily most tropes can be overused and terribly done. When it’s done right, I find it hard to dislike, it’s just pretty rare
@kphoria1009
@kphoria1009 Жыл бұрын
i love a good enemies/polar opposites to lovers trope, like dan and blair from gossip girl, so unexpected but so good
@MichellaneousMe
@MichellaneousMe Жыл бұрын
To tack onto the love triangle, I don’t like it when it’s a forced love triangle especially when the couple is already established and the “potential love interest” (usually a POC) is there to drive the plot. This usually happens in a movie sequel or a couple of seasons after
@kianna2991
@kianna2991 Жыл бұрын
I agree so much on the ‘friends to lovers’ trope. Like most of the time I find it so boring or irritating and overdone. I think one of the only times I genuinely enjoyed the ‘friends to lovers’ trope was in Love, Rosie. I can’t even pinpoint exactly what was done differently to make Love, Rosie stand out above the others but I absolutely love that movie.
@demonwolf4377
@demonwolf4377 Жыл бұрын
I wish you called the love triangle trope a love corner cause thats what it really is. A real love triangle is much more interesting
@nucci6865
@nucci6865 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised the slow burn never came up. I mean, it was good the first few times I watched it play out, but now I’m just a little tired, because it means I can’t get connected to any other love interests the characters have, because I know they are gonna end up with the other person anyway.
@jadynsauro6504
@jadynsauro6504 Жыл бұрын
what i believe is the only exception to the dl jock trope is adam. adam turned out to be one of my favorite characters because i believed that they developed his character in a great way. it’s a trope that i think most of the time would represent a toxic relationship, but i like how it shows adam learning to be okay with who he is and figuring it out in the process. he became a better person in the end
@nicolesherman8974
@nicolesherman8974 Жыл бұрын
I’m excited for this video bestie ❤️❤️! Loving the new hairstyle :)
@adoreanora
@adoreanora Жыл бұрын
When you said trauma baby troupe I instantly thought of the Gallagher’s 😂😂😂😂
@cynthiawilson5602
@cynthiawilson5602 10 ай бұрын
Friends to lovers trope I think you were thinking of unrequited love best example is Gatsby but for a good ending someone look that up. Friends to lovers to me is like both are good friends then one realised that they like their friend and then the other does so then they both like each other and then get together. Or both friends didn't see it but then both realise they have chemistry like Kim and Ron or Nick and Jess from New Girl
@littleanina1
@littleanina1 Жыл бұрын
I hate love “triangles” because they usually do it the couple who just got together and we all love the couple and then they immediately add a third person while we just wanna see the couple happy😅 I like enemies to lovers, but not really a fan of the bullying to lovers🥴 Plus also absolutely hate black best friend trope (or fat friend or gay friend trope) - give the diverse characters a story👏🏻 or better - just make them the main character👏🏻
@minx.toesies2037
@minx.toesies2037 Жыл бұрын
AHHH SEX ED!!! absolutely love that show to bits i love how it gave every side character their own fully developed storyline and might i add adam was my fav character in the whole show,, truly one of those shows where u grow a bond with the characters and they feel like ur bestfriends. cant wait for season 4. ++ if anyone has a show with a similar feel PLEASEEE recommend
@NicoleRafiee
@NicoleRafiee Жыл бұрын
i could listen to you talk for hours
@XoeNatalia
@XoeNatalia Жыл бұрын
No cause the twist are twisting✨
@mitchlynroberts4726
@mitchlynroberts4726 Жыл бұрын
Recently heard "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" described as "Undiagnosed Autistic/ADHD girl" and it made way more sense to me.
@Kvee0304
@Kvee0304 Жыл бұрын
I feel one of the BEST executed friends to lovers trope is Jess and Nick from New Girl. WE NEED MORE LIKE THEM!
@oreochocolate_lavacake9960
@oreochocolate_lavacake9960 Жыл бұрын
Also I specifically hate that trope where the girl is in love with like their friend who has a brother and the two brothers like the same girl and then they end up fighting over her and all that stuff and their choose the one brother and then the siblings relationship is ruined which I absolutely hate even with like best friends as well I just hate the fact that their good relationship always gets ruined just because of someone their both like it's like their friendship didn't even mean anything 😕
@edengillard1300
@edengillard1300 Жыл бұрын
loving the hair & the video!!
@kyleenichols16
@kyleenichols16 Жыл бұрын
This video is just what I needed today!!! 💗
@blade_1482
@blade_1482 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for “the magical N3gro” trope w/ Bonnie from tvd, etc. cuz chile…💀😭
@milahrain
@milahrain Жыл бұрын
i’ve never clicked a notification so fast 🙏🏾
@imuRgency
@imuRgency Жыл бұрын
& love u for it
@shirleytatha8189
@shirleytatha8189 Жыл бұрын
My favourite friends to lovers or was or enemies? Was Sam and Freddie from iCarly because who ever saw that coming????
@OliviaRuffin
@OliviaRuffin Жыл бұрын
I clicked subscribe right when that magical sound effect played and I really felt like I got a before 200k medal
@NekoHinote
@NekoHinote Жыл бұрын
GGxBB made me think of Betty and Jughead first
@GeeWayTheLemon
@GeeWayTheLemon Жыл бұрын
hair is giving lewis hamilton singapore 2019 (and that is the highest compliment)
@sseraphim2818
@sseraphim2818 Жыл бұрын
The highest compliment, indeed. Lewis was beyond fine that year. I looked it up and*whew*. I'm a racing fan now and a stan of Lewis Hamilton.
@ladydiamond6611
@ladydiamond6611 Жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAA!!!!! YOUR HAIR IS SO CUTE!!!!
@skylerhancock2530
@skylerhancock2530 Жыл бұрын
Complete agree about friends to lovers. Like well done its alright but most of the time its not and I'm tired.
@trulyyclaudia
@trulyyclaudia Жыл бұрын
friends to lovers ehhhh... it’s cool or whatever but a real good enemies to lovers got hit everytimeeee but i wanna get a childhood friends to frienimes to enimes to lovers 😭🤣
@g14nn4lol
@g14nn4lol Жыл бұрын
YES
@dawgggosaur
@dawgggosaur Жыл бұрын
So Adora and Catra? Lol
@inzaghiscornsalad7034
@inzaghiscornsalad7034 Жыл бұрын
Love triangle genuinely needs a separate categroy smth like 'straight to the trope hell' no i will not take the stress and bias thank you
@minitoadedits6894
@minitoadedits6894 Жыл бұрын
Okay well I actually love friends to lovers! It is my favourite trope, IF it is done well and too often it isn't😅 so I totally get your view on that...
@wendiwasden7088
@wendiwasden7088 Жыл бұрын
Black cat and golden retriever trope always hits in my opinion
@prairiecrossing8884
@prairiecrossing8884 Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the DL Jock trope (particularly on Adam from Sex Ed): I like Adam's character in Sex Ed, *and* I agree that the trope is problematic, even in the Sex Ed example
@syddog5552
@syddog5552 Жыл бұрын
Can we talk about the get back together ex troupe. I'm sorry but when they grow while apart and build a really healthy and loving relationship its really gonna do it for me. Its like in firefly lane with Kate and Johnny
@lil_cakesp3
@lil_cakesp3 Жыл бұрын
love the hair...fr king 👑💖
@kiyomiissocool
@kiyomiissocool Жыл бұрын
9:05 I JUST STARED AT YOU WHEN YOU SAID UR NOT A FAN OF FRIENDS TO LOVERS..
@vri0613
@vri0613 Жыл бұрын
yayy new upload, you look amazing love
@spacemanshr1mp
@spacemanshr1mp Жыл бұрын
Tbh i don't think you can consider Clementine from Eternal Sunshine an actual manic pixie. Both her and Joel have character development and not just for the sake of the man, quite the opposite of Ramona lol
@Abbie_Dav
@Abbie_Dav Жыл бұрын
"maybye get some help babes 😊HEHEHE"
@hunnipot
@hunnipot Жыл бұрын
loooove the hair 😍😍
@vivienmansbach2390
@vivienmansbach2390 Жыл бұрын
oh my, when i saw the video upload i just started grinning so dang hard 💙 love your videos Rumi
@rominahamel8458
@rominahamel8458 Жыл бұрын
Naahhh enemies to lovers with a slow burn is GONNA HIT EVERY TIME
@earlgaytea
@earlgaytea Жыл бұрын
the pigtails are so cute!
@L_R..
@L_R.. Жыл бұрын
You should rate best sitcoms theme songs! 90-2000s edition!!
@xee_fuel8392
@xee_fuel8392 Жыл бұрын
Gotta say, Georgia (Ginny and Georgia) ate that trope tf up like a bowl of spaghetti
@kristinpeace6266
@kristinpeace6266 Жыл бұрын
Love triangles aggravate me so much!! It makes me despise the character in the middle. Why string two people along?? 😑
@svthinapia
@svthinapia Жыл бұрын
before i start the video i need to say I love your hair!! Its so cute
@lrk54ever
@lrk54ever Жыл бұрын
my absolute ABSOLUTE favorite troupe of all time is the secret identity troupe in an form. i eat it up every time.
@elimo3901
@elimo3901 Жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate on this? Like the PI in Ginny and Georgia? Or like in Hannah-Montana? Any superhero?
@lrk54ever
@lrk54ever Жыл бұрын
@@elimo3901 yes yes and yes
@itsactuallyjaxx
@itsactuallyjaxx Жыл бұрын
come through with the new hairstyle 😍😍
@kimnoir
@kimnoir Жыл бұрын
Write that down moments: 📝 *Absent parent trope *Black cat x golden retriver trope *Enemies to lovers *Friends to lovers *Love triangles *Found families trope *Trauma trope
@EdwinOsaze
@EdwinOsaze Жыл бұрын
The Stalker troupe hits every time.
@yasmineguerin2852
@yasmineguerin2852 Жыл бұрын
Girly
@Loverera2023
@Loverera2023 Жыл бұрын
So for me love triangle is a complicated one. Honestly if I ever see it done right then maybe ill like it. I really feel like it could be done well, but then again also never has. This troupe just gets so been there, done that, ahh get over it. 2 people like one person, one person gets their heart broke. And the reason I hate it so much well that would be Inheritance Games. It is one of my fav. books. But mah boi Grayson better get his good ending or its about to rain hellfire and earthquakes. Like honestly just felt so lost with the depressing ending he got. That's why I'm so excited for The Hawthorne Brothers. (p.s. this video made me subscribe. Keep up the awesome work, ❤ the content
@wandeesthoughts
@wandeesthoughts Жыл бұрын
I feel like kdramas have desensitized me to love triangles coz now I don't mind them as much
@MillieLevenson
@MillieLevenson Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree! Enemies-to-lovers over friends-to-lovers any day, it's WAY more interesting!
@UnnecessaryDramatics
@UnnecessaryDramatics Жыл бұрын
I can confidently say the only love triangle I actually enjoyed was the Grayson x Avery x Jameson one, just because it was written so well. Also Jameson x Avery was a well deserved endgame- Grayson was to emotionally unavailable
@matariki9818
@matariki9818 Жыл бұрын
A great, great, GREAT example of Manic Pixie Dream Girl character done well is Jinx from Arcane, specifically because the source material was so terrible : it was a cliché manic pixie dream girl designed for guys to fantasize on and play in a videogame. The series made such a smart twist on it by giving her one of the main storylines, and making her, you know, actually manic. Like actually insane, because of the amount of terrible trauma she experiences from her very early childhood. It's not portrayed as hot or cute anymore, it's dark, very dark. The "dream" part, where she draws and makes her little puppets, only enhances the darkness of it all, and she has sweet sides - her relationship with Silco (though almost creepy at point), with her sister, with her childhood friend... Overall, Arcane was insanely good at subverting tropes and writing them well : - of course, the manic pixie dream girl - the father figures and the absent parents figure - the femme fatale, but actually is a very muscular warrior black woman with complicated relationships with her daughter - the good girl / bad boy is good girl / bad girl, and you slowly realize with the good girl that she might not be on the "good" side that much, being in law enforcement - the love triangle, but from two different type of love (like a romantic love and a sisterly love), which makes a real impossibility for the focus character to "chose"
@phiwalker9925
@phiwalker9925 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I hate hate hate the "childhood friends to lovers" it's so annoying, especially if it's a boy being in love with a girl from childhood and she never sees him and ughhh I've been on the receiving end of so many guy friends showing interest in me (often for a long time, just pining in the background) and it's so uncomfortable bc it just feels like that's why they're your "friend", and have that extra expectation and ahh it just gives me so many bad vibes I haate it 🙃
@Riri-cg3nu
@Riri-cg3nu Жыл бұрын
I actually love good girl gone bad trope! I get what you’re saying but a lot of the time it’s just that the girl who was trying her best to fit in to society’s ideals which for women is very often being a good innocent girl, now doesn’t give a damn anymore and really comes into her own. It’s very satisfying to watch!
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