Rappers React To The Smashing Pumpkins "Cherub Rock"!!!

[@zmarko]

This album, nearly 30 years later, is still one of my favorites of the grunge category. Start to finish, every track is AMAZING.

[@jaysonkelly4830]

SP was my favorite band for about 10 years, before I discovered TOOL. Siamese Dream is and was a masterpiece. I can play every song on guitar.

[@SammyRebbo]

I think this is the first time I've ever seen someone call Smashing Pumpkins grunge.

[@andrericardo6702]

@@SammyRebbo Smashing Pumpkins Gish and Siamese Dream have so many grunge songs. Even Billy Corgan said they influenced Nirvana and PJ.

[@Luke-kx5mf]

@@jaysonkelly4830 I can play this song and today

[@jaysonkelly4830]

@@Luke-kx5mf Awesome!

[@paquipeon9735]

“This drummer is incredible”, imo Jimmy Chamberlin is the most under appreciated drummer in music. Amazing talent. The Smashing Pumpkins are at their best with him behind the kit.

[@jaymcmullen6274]

its a classic case of a band writing a hit song about the disdain of the music industry and how the band was treated.

[@MattKCChiefsfan]

ANYTHING from 'Siamese Dream' and 'Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness' is pretty much amazing. Thank you.

[@ISOrider72]

From Gish and Pisces Iscariot, too...but sadly the following albums didn't give me anything at all....

[@MattKCChiefsfan]

@@ISOrider72 Gish isn't bad, and I love Pisces. I think everything after MC&TIS is hit and miss. There is some quality stuff, but nothing like those early years.

[@adventureescape1929]

and anything from Gish

[@metalguru85]

Smashing Pumpkins are amazing. Disarm should be next. This song is about the music industry.

[@tiffanykennedy8397]

This made my morning! Smashing Pumpkins are one of my favorites! You have to check out Thru the Eyes of Ruby. This song was on Guitar Hero.

[@crawdadnc479]

I agree that it's about the music industry. The angels with their wings glued on are people pretending to be special and divine when really they're not. "We get scared when you don't stare" is admitting that the performer wants attention. Nobody wants that real sweetness of the honey, they just want the shit that makes money, so fake it up and get paid. Let me out = let me be myself, not this special (angelic, cherubic) mask. But still pay attention to my songs.

[@maneatingpie2338]

That drummer is Billy Corgan. This album (Siamese Dream) was before he had a studio band, all the instruments and mixing were done by Billy himself.

[@alienaudaxer9827]

Gish and Siamese Dream are both perfect albums.

[@josephblumenberg6574]

Still one of my all time favorite openings to a song! The way it builds to those fuzzed-out guitars is soooo good!

[@terrilwest7968]

DING DING DING! Smokey nailed it. It’s all about selling out in the music industry, and Billy waning out. Like most Pumpkins song lyrics, it’s 80% on-the-nose storytelling, and 20% esoteric Billy nonsense. But, oh man, what an epic song.

[@pdog547]

THe riff man, the RIFF!

[@mikeelko8527]

Thank You. My favorite Pumpkins song. Great song to be the opener on an album that was phenomenal. Guitarist went to be in Perfect Circle also. This song may be recognizable as it was in a Guitar Hero game

[@bryandeschenes6153]

Ok, this one. First Pumpkins song I heard back in high school while skipping study hall to go to a friend's to play the original DOOM and jam to Mtv, yes, it used to play music videos.

[@mendyrckz76]

🦋 True I Miss The Old Mtv Music Video's. I Have old Vcr Tapes I Need To Transfer Over To Cd. That Are Filled With Mtv Videos & Headbangers Ball Episodes. Etc...Etc...Mtv Hasn't Been The Same Since Reality Shows Took Over. By The Way I Also Own The Original Doom Game From Way Back You Were Talking About.

[@XOTheHosttt]

MTV is doing it again. Besides from the f shows they still play music of all generations. Not like those days but hey, is something u know!

[@mendyrckz76]

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[@Nkemtheartist]

It was the intro with all the monkey sounds for me LOL! Love the video

[@Omnetto__]

This channel is getting better and better. Awesome guys!!! :)

[@grungyasscinema]

The main riff is one of those riffs that sounds familiar even if you've never heard this song before. Billy Corgan is a master at nostalgic guitar riffs.

[@kristaspecht]

Awesome! I friggin love this song!! Takes me back!! Awesome reaction as always fellas!❤🤓

[@MagicMan11130]

Cherub Rock and 1979 are my two most nostalgic songs. I’m 33 now, and I still remember the time at my babysitters house seeing the music video on MTV for 1979. That was my first introduction to the Pumpkins, and I credit my babysitter for that shit. Props to you miss 👏🏼

[@acy2004]

When I saw this title, never clicked so fast 😂 this is my favourite SP album. Keep doing songs from Siamese Dream. I’d recommend you do Mayonnaise next. Great reaction 🙋🏻‍♀️👏🏼👍🏼🙌🏼💜🇨🇦

[@Hollywood6IX]

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[@jzeke1712]

Yes- the drummer is phenomenal. Jimmy Chamberlain.

[@mendyrckz76]

🦋 ''Cherub Rock'' & ''Bullet With Butterfly Wings'' Are My Top Favorites. The lyrics relate to Corgan's relationship with his perception of the indie rock community and larger media. The song was performed in standard tuning with an E octave played at the 7th fret, a technique which the band used on other songs, such as "Drown", "Tristessa", and "Starla". Corgan describes this as the "Pumpkin Chord", saying "We basically stole that from Jimi Hendrix. The song was featured on numerous rhythm video games such as Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock, Rock Band, Power Gig: Rise of the Six String, and Rock smith 2014. It's True Because I Own All These Games. Great Reaction Guys!

[@pamelahinchee8012]

Drown is my fav. Mayonnaise too. Gish is a must have CLASSIC!

[@stephenrock8003]

One I know you'll love by Smashing Pumpkins is a song called ZERO. Definitely worth checking out here, or even in your spare time. In my opinion it's their hardest song, with some great breakdowns too lol! On a side note, I totally support a wrestling pod cast! Peace my friends✌

[@_bats_]

That song is so hard yet so ludicrously catchy at the same time. Not an easy feat.

[@sarahzentexas]

Cherubs are those little angels that look like babies!

[@cryshark]

If ever a song could take you back to those amazing yrs of the 90s!!!!!!! Thank you sooo much for doing this one! One of the faves on my art inspo playlist! Smokey was correct, lyrics are said to revolve around Billy's resistance to follow what music execs wanted them to do at the time.

[@robtintelnot9107]

My favorite Pumpkins song. Right on.

[@evaetterer6000]

Hi bro's, i like the song but dont know much about this band ! After hear this song i wanna hear more it ! Bro's i love you and i love your ist style ! Greatings from germany ❤ ❤ ❤

[@clockworkangel4026]

Fun fact: Billy is a HUGE Rush fanboy. Riffs from Rush's song Bytor and the Snowdog were "borrowed" for this song. Billy has met both Geddy and Alex, and laughs about apologizing to them (at least twice) for the "theft".

[@microgirl3789]

My favorite Smashing Pumpkins song but I do love the songs off Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness. Really takes me back to high school! Great reaction guys! Still waiting on Deftones "You've Seen the Butcher" please 🙏 thanks 🤘❤

[@ISOrider72]

As a non native english-speaking listener , the first Album was somekind of cryptic to me , but the feelings the SP triggered in me were so unique these days and led my Musical understanding in complete different ways.Seen them twice , one time at "Rock am Ring " Festival when Gish Was the actual Album and second in a Circus tent in Hannover at their Infinite Sadness-Tour and both were 2 of the finest live concerts I have seen in my whole life , impressive af....we made a big sport out of listening the unearthly great Mellon Collie and the Infinte Sadness high on acid , what is absolutely amazing...not that I'd recommend...just to say...and I've been absolutely in love with D'Arcy....

[@pdog547]

By far my favourite Pumpkins song - the riff! Bullet With Butterfly Wings is a kick-ass track too, please do that one!

[@Reani71]

I'll tell you exactly where you know it from: Guitar Hero 3 or Rock Band, it was featured in both. The cherub (from Hebrew, plural: cherubim) is a supernatural being mentioned in the bible, some sort of angel who guards heaven. This might help to get a better understanding for what the song is about. And Smokey's right about Billy Corgan's wrestling connection. He was TNA's president between 2015 and 2016 and he purchased the NWA in 2017. Recently they worked together with AEW, Thunder Rosa and Serena Deeb both held the NWA World Women's Championship while wrestling on AEW shows and I also remember that there was a promo (video) segment of Billy Corgan on a Dynamite show at some point.

[@locustkllr]

Yes, Jimmy Chamberlain is a phenomenal drummer. Check out : Today, Soma, Mayonaise, Bodies, Everlasting Gaze, Raindrops and Sunshowers, Tarantula, Tiberius.

[@Dekoherence-ii8pw]

7:15 "Hipsters unit"

[@kristaspecht]

Back in 1997 i seen them in concert. Billy said they had a special guest and it was marilyn manson! It was such a great concert! I went with no tickets and ended up in the 3rd row center because some of the band members family couldn't come last min. It was so kool!

[@Tomi_BuzzCat]

Smashing Pumpkins - ' Siamese Dream ' LP came out round 1993 I think t'was their 1st debut single hit at that time 🤘🏻😸👍🏻

[@AmberPearcy]

As much as I have enjoyed Smashing Pumpkins, I still haven’t done a deep dive. I need to. Thanks guys!

[@pamelahinchee8012]

Yes, start from the beginning. Gish is classic listening. Enjoy it!

[@mikethemotormouth]

Also gotta get to Today, Stand Inside Your Love, and their cover of Stevie Nicks' Landslide

[@NO-78-9]

In “Cherub Rock,” Corgan finds himself suddenly associated with a counter-culture that he never identified with or was included in. He accurately paints a picture of the volatile music industry at his time with his signature sarcasm intact. Many musicians and artists are in it for the money and willfully jeopardize the integrity of their art. Corgan suggests fighting back against this notion in the name of fearless nonconformity. In a 1995 interview, Corgan explained that every song on this album is about a personal relationship. “Cherub Rock,” Billy said, “is about my relationship to the indie-world and the media.”

[@John-fb4gz]

Nobody ever wants to talk about D'Arcy slamming base and imo the band wasn't the same after she left! She rocked the base And gave great gr backup vocals

[@michaeljacyna1973]

You are right on about the music industry interpretation.

[@zackzaharko89]

Billy Coorgan’s voice is so smooth to me, great track & reaction!

[@sussychachi]

This song came out on radio a lot and the game guitar hero lol

[@joelockard7174]

For other bands Lacuna Coil or maybe The Birthday Massacre possibly. Sevendust is amazing as well as more Disturbed and Foo Fighters.

[@malefikgamer5446]

MAN this takes me BACK....wow still sounds good. Zero is probably my favorite Pumpkins song but this one is for sure good.

[@Moondirts]

Whole album is a masterpiece

[@matthewdrake4385]

Smokey, your part right about Adonis. The flamboyant version of him with the blonde hair and the pastel colors was late 80s. Adonis DID wrestle in the 70s and even teamed with Jesse Ventura in the early 80s. His look was more of a leather biker look. He changed his look when he started putting on weight. Another interesting fact is that Billy Corgan is indeed a wrestling fan and for awhile had a role in NWA, maybe as like a booker. A cherub would be like a child-like winged angel, think something similar to cupid. So the title could be how the style of music appeals to youth, teens and young adults.

[@pauliewalnuts829]

I am not an alternative rock fan but I always kind of liked SP. They have that metal tinge. Which isn't strange because I've heard Corgan praise metal many times.

[@pauljansen1137]

Fantastic song from an amazing album guys....next: "Mayonaise"!

[@pauljansen1137]

@Marissa North ah..ok..thanks!

[@sterling8298]

Smashing Pumpkins is an awesome band voice and I've always loved their music. Ths song is FIRE.

[@BlackMarketHoney]

My favorite SP songs are Tonight Tonight(amazing drumming) and Stand Inside Your Love. All the best, Rich in Sweden.

[@Kelly30stm]

Smashing Pumpkins have a lot of great songs. Ava Adore is one of my favorites and it has a great video.

[@garannamom]

If you played Guitar Hero back in the day, that might be where you know the song from. Maybe?

[@loudnoises213]

classic. Keep on rockin' in the free world guys! Devildriver - The Mountain Unearth - Endless

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

The whole of Siamese Dream is like magic from a higher world.

[@michaelmignone5869]

This song is awesome. The guitar, drums, vocals, bass line. Everything is on point here

[@drbilbus8769]

Thats wild I was just thinking about this song

[@spencershaw4419]

Love your knowledge of random Billy Corgan things. Much respect

[@arronknox2884]

faith no more - falling to pieces

[@GhostlyEcheveria]

I never knew how huge Billy was until I met him in person. He's 6'3" and he's just large. I'm not sure what has happened to Billy over the years to cause him to adopt some of the views he has, but I still love him. The heart logo is the first tattoo I ever got, and it's still my favorite.

[@Shammrock62]

You can find a interview with him on KZbin on KZbin where hes talking about partying wis partying with Dennis robbin during the bulls finals going with him to Las Vegas and Phil Jackson being pissed at him

[@ДанилаФахрутдинов-в3е]

The Melvins - A History of Bad Men, buddies, you'll like it!

[@ShanLH5]

Ooh good one!

[@ДанилаФахрутдинов-в3е]

@@ShanLH5 yeah! one of my new favourites!

[@anessalyn1035]

got a jaw-dropping performance for you Tina S covering Dragonforce Through the fire and flames, she was only 15 at this video

[@psychoslingers8732]

It’s for sure about the industry and industry people that surround you. “Oh don’t worry, I have your best interest at hand”

[@ericnarcomey9195]

Wish I could like this interaction multiple times.

[@brianyates7255]

Hello from New England..Once again Smokey is correct, this song is about the music biz, and how it pigeon holes pll and then suck them dry by buying their talent..Peace from the Northeast

[@danielward3929]

my three favorite band smashing pumpkins, tool and slipknot. all three have amazing drummers

[@maneatingpie2338]

I also believe he was talking about the music industry trying to change his sound and control his music. Honey being that cheesy pop sound in music, it's all good as long as there is enough money. I may be wrong... but I think that's what it was.

[@warnerbasement1628]

What makes this song work is Jimmy Chamberlans commitmemt to a half time groove with the snare hit only on the 3 count -- instead of the 2 & 4. This gives the guitar and lyrics room to breathe and creates a push pull feel where the drums seem like they're restraining the guitar from being too frenetic.

[@ayanleman]

Ahh the song that taught me guitar. And i don't know how to play it. If you know, you know

[@pittsburghgrower]

A cherub is the little baby angels you see in church's

[@metaphoria3]

Pretty sure Smokey was right on

[@joshuataylor81]

Another Smashing Pumpkins banger is "Rocket"! So very underrated!

[@taradevine6026]

I wanna know who is the shapeshifter too. Anyone know?

[@Hollywood6IX]

We're curious as well

[@ISOrider72]

Smokey's Wrestling name would be " The Unstoppable"...😆

[@Hollywood6IX]

🤣🤣🤣

[@flopimus]

Song always makes me think of biblically accurate cherubs, a fierce holy beast asking "who want smoke?!"

[@pamelahinchee8012]

Hey Guys! I just subscribed. You 2 are Fun to watch. Loved your Tool Stuff. Welcome to the Tool Family. The ONLY Band that matters....💀🖤☠🖤 If I could make a Band Suggestion, I'd suggest Jane's Addiction -- Nothings Shocking, Mountain Song or Ocean Size. It's a Great Album. Cheers!

[@michaeljacyna1973]

Right up there as one of the best "Track 1" songs of any album.

[@F13fan]

Check out some Highly Suspect and The Amity Affliction. Also more Primus and Mushroomhead and Static-X! 🤘

[@kefkaspawn79]

Great Reaction. Maybe "On The Shores" by Ihsahn Please lol. Ill just keep ocassionly asking hahah.

[@John-fb4gz]

Especially on this song

[@johnsouthwell1869]

billy corgan actually played all of the instruments on this album to get it exactly as he wanted - his bandmates were not very happy

[@JayTed2024]

Honey means the wholesome, stress free life to do what youre divinely purposed to do. Money simply means greed: when ppl put the means before the outcome, theyre lost.

[@obiwonton369]

Long overdue for Trash Talkers to Deep Dive Pumpkins pick 3 tracks from every Pumpkins 90's album react to sludge & shimmer.

[@mouseshadow5828]

cherub: a winged angelic being

[@castle07dw]

Will you please react to Floaty or This is a Call by Foo Fighters? Thanks guys love y'all!!

[@gracelessheart6534]

Do AVA ADORE next (with video). His Nosferatu look matches his voice sooooo gooood.

[@alexbone98]

Song was from Guitar Hero, that's probably the reference for your memory

[@stevepower9801]

The Pumpkins were a really decent band back then. Particularly their early to mid 90's era of "Gish", "Siamese Dream" and "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness". I found they lost their way a little after that, but that's just my personal opinion. I'm sure there are lots of Pumpkins fans who would disagree. I remember seeing them at a small club here in England called Edwards No 8 in Birmingham back in very early 1992 when they were still touring for "Gish". Yes, I am that old haha :D Check out the likes of "I Am One", "Siva", "Bury Me", "Tristessa", Rhinoceros", "Hummer", "Rocket" ,"Soma", "Where Boys Fear To Tread", "Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans", "Tales Of A Scorched Earth" and "Zero" to name just a handful of classic era Pumpkins.

[@ISOrider72]

Agree 100% but would pack the Pisces Iscariot in the Box,too.

[@Liz-cmc313]

Gish would have to be my fav.

[@stevepower9801]

@@Liz-cmc313 Thanks again Liz :) Gish is a classic. Nice Devin Townsend logo too . Another legend! :)

[@Liz-cmc313]

@@stevepower9801 you're welcome. I worship Devin🤘

[@thoru4367]

Pls do The Smiths - Headmaster Ritual

[@BeardGuy-vz8tn]

Y'all should listen to "intermission" by upon a burning body. It's a banger for sure. Good tune.

[@dr2926]

I’m not a huge smashing pumpkins fan, but this is one of the most perfect albums

[@A38T36]

If you want to see a shapeshifter, look up interviews with Bill Hader doing impressions. It’s freaky.

[@siklawolfy3325]

Hey I have a good reaction for you guys for a band that's that is coming up but definitely underrated I haven't seen a hip hop reaction to it yet aether realm I would suggest the magician song is awesome video is wicked cool if you want to watch that

[@Wargasm54]

Great album. I’m mostly into the heaviest metal on earth. But love the guitars on this album. So freaking heavy, over driven and saturated. Fantastic sound. Bought the album when it first came out way back in the day. Their best work in my opinion. This album has no filler. Just good all the way through. I did eat a lot of acid back in the day though 🤣

[@scottbroughton7189]

Old school plenty of good tunes enjoy

[@PaulHanney]

Billy Corgan used to be in TNA and now he owns I think NWA.

[@ShanLH5]

This is a good one… Zero is my favorite 😊

[@SargNickFury]

This album is my soundtrack to my Hey Dey, along with Alice N Chains....311, and Metallica.. gen-X glory days. 20 somethings on the prowl. Music of your carefree and trouble making era will always be special to anyone. Bonfires, hot girls, and your boys being your boys. A lot of you rugrats now hitting midlife got conceived by Smashing Pumpkins.

[@sal-mannella5696]

Siamese is a phenomenal album. Silverfuck is great check it out, covered alot of Pumpkins in my first band. Thru the eyes of ruby, fuck you(an ode to no one). Could you guys please react to more ANTHRAX please!!!! A.I.R, Armed and Dangerous, Efilnikcufecin(NFL), A Skeleton in the Closet, Indians live from Kings among Scotland, Make me Laugh, Who Cares Wins, Keep it in the Family, Intro into Reality and Belly of the Beast together. Breathing Lightning, Suzerain. Take a pick, all great songs. Please guys please!!! Thank you.

[@Natalin0]

Hell yeah