"Raps Too Fast" - Roc-A-Fella Founder Damon Dash Explains Why EVERY Label Passed On Jay-Z

Patrick Bet-David and Roc-A-Fella Records founder Damon Dash discuss Dame discovering Jay-Z and the struggles they had getting signed by record labels.
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[@chrisnugent6507]

1 story he was in the streets for a year and got scared of jail the next story he was reshaping the dope game. Dudes a goofball

[@DavidLeegemstones]

This comment needs way more likes!

[@TrillEverything]

So being scared of jail after making a few hundred thousand in the drug business at age 19 makes someone a goofball? Stfu. The smartest drug dealers are the ones who got out early and flipped their money into legal businesses. Okay. That's corny. Lol

[@kharyvines6971]

EXPLAIN MORE

[@kharyvines6971]

IN THE STREETS DOESN'T MEAN SELLING DRUG NERD

[@chrisnugent6507]

He literally said he was, nerd.

[@elbowgang9715]

Jay is a wild dude. If you don't know what Dame really just said, I'll break it down: Jay was copping work with Dehaven from Big Tee through Emory in Maryland. When that situation went sour, Dame introduced him to OG Juan, who was a kingpin from Washington Heights. OG Juan helped build Baseline Studios and the 40/40 Club so in essence, Jay helped him clean his money whether he knew it or not. And to top it off, OG Juan wife Desiree Perez is the head of Roc Nation and also was a government informant that helped take a cartel down in the 90s. Tell me Jay not a clown 😂😂😂

[@DariusFoster-bu5kw]

Always fucked with Jay but sum of the stuff ppl say gotta be true plus Ik how Sagittarius move very sneaky secretive nd opportunists who will do watever when the see an opportunity for themselves no matter what so they definitely have snake tendencies

[@Yahss1010]

Literally. Lmao. People don’t have the eyes to see or the ears to hear though lmao. The people that believe his delusion are clowns just like him lmao

[@mrangelcruz1833]

Dame says he doesn't want to talk about Jay no more, then talks about Jay some more...

[@Livingsmooth_]

People keep asking him, it’s a major part of his story. As well as Jay-Z success story.

[@mrangelcruz1833]

No doubt, I agree, but he should not answer or stop saying he is not going to talk about the next man.

[@joshuasimmons6443]

Like he said, Jay is a large part of his story. So it's hard not to talk about him.

[@jaywright9635]

How could he not? He’s a part of history. You can’t mention JayZ without Dame and Biggs. Real people know that, if they know hip hop.

[@jblaze1336]

JAYZ MADE DAME WHO WAS TRASH 🗑 STRUGGLING BEFORE HOV SAVED HIM

[@itsascaryworld9788]

1995 was by far my favorite year in hip hop. My favorite summer ever! So much was going on as a kid and all the songs hit different, especially those west coast summer tracks

[@JackPaul-vs3bq]

Hell of a tie, Patrick. 👏🏾

[@patriotsouthern8123]

It’s made from spider silk

[@sevensages5279]

It's his ode to LGBTQ community 🌈🌈🌈

[@dubbyx8490]

@@sevensages5279 😂😂😂

[@Dk_Ks23]

All in the money in the world won’t buy etiquette, class and decorum.

[@mytrashguypa]

Dame reminds me of when Dennis Rodman talks. Just hyping himself up

[@soojoe]

Dennis Rodman got 5 rings bro. Two with the pistons

[@iamkesha.]

I’m not impressed with Dash. When PBD were listed off those ‘95 songs, the flashback was awesome. But for the life of me, I don’t remember Dash. I guess because I never listed to Jay Z. I will say, 6-7 years later, my child wore RocaWear clothing.

[@godofthisshit]

@@iamkesha. Well your kid was wearing a clothing label he put out.

[@Pointofviewblvd]

No one else gonna do it for you so why not

[@mytrashguypa]

@@godofthisshit never

[@alannar]

Love that you’re a hip hop head Patrick. Sending you much health and happiness.

[@ShoeCrewTV]

One of the best Dame Dash interviews you really can't get the full perspective unless you watch the full interview Dame was dropping gems how things really work.

[@M_mcin]

Thank you, Shoe Crew. I’ve been ignorant of this genius for years.

[@marioedwards6289]

Great take . Dame is a very intelligent guy

[@KAI-hh4hf]

Then we got to know each other in a different way-PAUSE

[@MrJ1S]

No way PD said GZA as G-Z-A 😂😂 HOW? NO more rap interviews for u lol

[@iknown0thing]

Lol giza and riza

[@PlatoCastro]

Yeah, no more rap interviews lol

[@94462]

For all of self professed talents, Dame could never find another Jay and Kanye and both of them left him to blow up ⬆️ 💥

[@TrillEverything]

Funny that you added Kanye. The song says make another Hov. Dame signed Kanye. Kanye became a billionaire AFTER he left Hov and used Dame's business advice. Rachel Roy was a 100 million business. Kevin Hart is worth 200 million. Lee Daniels was discovered and funded by Dame. Last, he's sitting next to PBD and you are in the comment box sounding like a Baby with a wet diaper. Be a man damnit!

[@ajrr8401]

Black keys

[@tonybravado8231]

Jay didn’t leave him to blow up. They blew up together. Jay left to do his own thing. Kanye executed the blueprint he learned from Dame. Kanye will tell you that himself.

[@tonyp3173]

This is cap. You aint got the answers lol

[@marks9304]

​@@tonybravado8231bro Kanye fumbled the bag he lost his Adidas deal and got dropped from Def Jam so what were you saying again

[@ElAlmon2]

Glad to hear Dash speak sensibly. Doesn't sound like the stereotypical "rapper"... especially from that era; early/mid 90's. In this podcast.

[@Mr.Wednesday.]

Dame dash is a business man worth 100k. 👍

[@kingosaces96]

The pause was uncalled for lol

[@Star-hg1kt]

Its Dame bro LOL

[@robertsine8812]

A lot of folks are bashing this guy. I fail to see the reason why. He’s fairly articulate. And I am guilty of what he’s saying. I have had problems “speaking up, And asking the “uncomfortable” questions. Knowing full well I should. As I would regret after. Mainly in a job setting. But, street confrontations and, product sales weren’t left out of the equation. He’s aware of this in people and is acknowledging. Kind of makes me wanna spruce up myself a bit. 🤔 thanks Dame.

[@MrsThollo]

You can admit it because you're a bigger man.💪🏾

[@robertsine8812]

@@MrsThollo thank you. Very Much appreciated.

[@meladgoat]

g.z.a? pat if you gonna interview with hip hop artists / execs you gotta know hip hop. or do what rogan does and have someone else in there that does to help with the questions

[@raunelcorona2689]

Dame is a legend! Genius! 💯

[@kingyeti6336]

Ha! Twista would beg to differ

[@dorrianlassiter9980]

Dame why is u putting jay down in conversation let it go and go find another jay z

[@tedgraham6548]

0:49 never heard him tell this story. You came to Brooklyn from Harlem to tell thrm they hustling wrong, kinda have d to believe that, when jay clearly out hustled you.

[@4011colfaxavebaby]

Who you think, he learned it from clown?

[@alip4281]

I heard motherFuckers say they made HOV.

[@adnanabdurrahman419]

They made each other

[@alip4281]

@@adnanabdurrahman419 I think Jayz evolved and Dame didn’t. Sometimes you got ties in life.

[@bizzleakene]

With some situations and some people… if you can’t fill in the blanks you’ll never get it. He did it on both sides and remains honorable. It’s what he’s saying not how he said it

[@BuriedUnkind]

Me me. Me me me me me. Me me me. Me me me me me me me me me me.

[@davidbrook9209]

Jay did rap too fast in the beginning. It didn't really suit him so he basically copied nas flow.

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

Nas wasn’t the one rapping a little slower… Lord Finesse? OC? Grand Puba? I can keep going.

[@kharyvines6971]

​@@ArtisanWindchimesNAS CHANGED THE GAME JAY AND BIG FOLLOWED

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

@@kharyvines6971 so why only single out Jay?

[@kharyvines6971]

@@ArtisanWindchimes ARE YOU SLOW I NAMED TWO PEOPLE. WEIRDOS

[@coachdev8873]

Yes indeed he copied Nas style because people thought Jayz was corny following the speed Rap style no label took him seriously until he switched up a slower style .

[@groundbeef174]

Still waiting for Dame to make another Jay-Z and stop yappin

[@fr7nkyph7llyj7ne5]

Heard mfers sayin they Made ‘hov Made ‘hov say “okay so, make another ‘hov “

[@marks9304]

Remember Cam was suppose to replace Hov see how that panned out the Dipset General oh I forgot Dipset was a mixtape label

[@rjvilla5228]

@@marks9304 Cam didn't get as big as Jay but he wasn't a flop either. Dipset ran hip hop in the mid 2000's, everybody tried to dress like them and had rappers switch up to the multi "holy moly Hokey Pokey" flow.

[@marks9304]

@@rjvilla5228 if you know Dipset only 4 original members were signed to the Roc everybody else the phony mixtape label like Hell rell ,jr writer ,40 cal I'm mess with Dipset then matter a fact they signed under who but the Roc they was signed to Jay z the Dame the Roc they did nothing without the Roc they folded like lawn chairs and turned on each other Cam vs Jim you know the rest

[@groundbeef174]

@marks9304 Imagine Cam being president of Rocafella. You saw what happened when Dame and Cam got together on Bill o Reilly. Unprofessional and petty.

[@jermainehnbhwalls822]

Harlem could never f with Brooklyn

[@garywatson3102]

He's a legend in his own mind.

[@jcgar7860]

😂😂

[@joekane8026]

@@colonizedgrain4034 Jay Z created Roc a Fella without a product dame has nothing to sell .

[@Imcuke]

He definitely a legend stupid

[@DariusFoster-bu5kw]

@@joekane8026wrong

[@ricardocampbell8430]

@@joekane8026there would be no ROC without Dame. Who in the hell you think did all the dirty work Who understood the business sure in the hell wasn’t Jay

[@brucebanter-theincrediblej7927]

Dash is so smart, but this insecurity he displays has been his downfall

[@southpawslugger8819]

Guy lived the dream retired at 35 how many humans can say that accomplished that maybe 1 percent of the world gotta respect that hardest thing to do in life he did it major props and he did it the hard way he created that lifestyle max respect

[@councilestatelife]

Why hasn't PDB or valuetainment covered the tuckers interview with Palestinian Christian, I think I know exactly why

[@timsilva1944]

Next guest please.

[@brucebanner6147]

Why do people keep putting a microphone in this man's face? Look, ask him where's his family Stacey Dash. That's a way more interesting conversation and a much more interesting person.

[@ashyelbos]

To ask him about Jay Z😂😂😂😂

[@gheewhiz]

half hater, half innovator, i love dame. and not to take away from his skills and success but jay would've been signed by another label if he sounded less like a frog and looked less like a camel.

[@p00lboy]

nah jay a turtle without a shell

[@slhickinson43]

​@@p00lboy😂😂😂😂

[@meladgoat]

any man commenting on another man's looks, especially 1 he doesn't know a weirdo and is obviously a flamer. lol u reppin that flag well

[@jlove8445]

Aww man

[@Bklynbound79]

Lol,he reppin it well...jayz lookin like the gay painter..

[@UnfilteredJustice]

Where's a video on Chuck Schumer unconstitutionally blocking/dismissing the Mayorkis impeachment?

[@sevensages5279]

Where's the congressional investigation on Jared Kushner getting $2,000,000,000 from the Saudis? 🤔

[@davidekow]

that PAUSE he says kills me lmao

[@jacobmakgato3575]

Dame is stacked in the time-warp. 😢

[@barakalesure955]

Dude is living in a time warp.. sounds like he’s stuck like Chuck. Dame is dwelling.. His PTSD with Jay is haunting him.. Dame move on bruh… Jay has moved on and you haven’t.. let it go .. get dat bread ..

[@johnnythunderss26]

I think the only one that gotta fix themselves is you bro with a comment like that

[@MrsThollo]

People are nuts. Dame said the same thing I've said: interviewers ask him about his story which undoubtedly includes Jay, then ppl say he keeps talking about Jay. 😒

[@emre8130]

Liquid swords

[@meladgoat]

everything great that happens, it was all dame. anything that failed, it was everyone else's fault. lol we get it

[@antoinem.nyandwiperhus7944]

Big up Dame

[@franthevan65]

Rap music and the government flooding low income neighborhoods with dope. Flipped this country over.

[@buckfiden1776]

Love you guys. Love your channel. Please don’t ever have Dave Rubin. There’s nothing Conservative about two men adopting an innocent child. Please guys. MAGA 🇺🇸

[@sammiejo6557]

I agree. It’s really really weird. They bought a baby.

[@buckfiden1776]

@@sammiejo6557 Bought? Ok that’s even worse

[@Gtalktv]

You know that friend that always gotta better story than you no matter what you talk about ??? 😭😭 that’s dame

[@RedDawnCA]

After Peter Schiff and Sage Steele, this guy is definitely a step down.

[@intelligentfool09]

🤔

[@Whitenugget23]

And not just 1 step, it’s like u fell down the whole staircase ..

[@4011colfaxavebaby]

You personally don’t even know this man!

[@JohnDoe-jj3wt]

This dude still continues to talk about Jay, I feel sorry for him, it’s like a bad breakup 😂😂😂

[@christinasanchez9146]

Dash what happened to Allyiah? Didn't you & jayz take her out to make room for beyonce??

[@Corliss-bl7bl]

I believe Jay and Bey took Aaliyah out to put Bey on top.

[@oscarrlee18]

What? Nothing on the Iranian attack on Israel???

[@rehanjawaid8341]

Love how PBD has no opinion on Iran-Israel conflict but eveything else on this planet

[@KINGOFTREEZ]

🍉

[@goudagalindo1790]

The dude is from IRAN. You think he’s cheering for Israel? He’s cheering for IRAN.

[@martinsiedlecki]

​@@goudagalindo1790he's a Christian. He don't give a

[@artedecalle3945]

Dame dash always dropping jewels

[@PresidentTrumpisTheBestEver]

"Raps Too Fast" and here all of these years I thought it was because he was talentless.

[@zaytm7196]

He only took this podcast for the money. It’s clear what he believes and stands for even with facts. And if there’s no money involved the he did it to keep his name relevant

[@precisiongrindin1848]

You can tell dame is a fake street guy because he glamorizes it so much. He was around but he wasn't active because the ones who was active don't talk about it in interviews. Dame talks about the streets every interview. Jay z has never spoke about it in a interview.

[@disciple_deshun]

(6:18 - 7:30) PBD: "top 40 Hip Hop songs of 1995". The word PBD/Dame was looking for was "Talent"... i.e. Music of Substance, Originality, Individuality, Vocabulary, Cadence... -Hip Hop music went from that, 'til what it is today!?!? You can't tell Me "that wasn't by design".

[@claudegrinnell9602]

Treach from naughty had that rhyme fast way. I’m sure there were many before. But treach made it where it became the industry standard to get signed . Many labels were looking for it and many rappers took in that style . Jayz tried to get signed with that style….. rumor is rza was the one that told him to slow it down. It’s funny how many artist had to dumb down their own wordplay/style for a hit. DMX hated the basic rhyme style of ruff ryders anthem

[@jgillard71]

He was cool because he wore Nike Air? Such a high bar you hold.

[@EmilyyMe]

Love this guy. Cocky but he speaks the truth

[@MikeStoan]

The way he said GZA & KRS lol

[@sendawulakajubi2991]

2:00 Dame changes this story all the time. The first time I heard it, he said he liked Jay-Z because he was a Brooklyn cat who dressed like he was from Harlem. But now it’s “He was corny”!

[@glass1258]

Dude is a 🤡

[@badluckbro661]

Never thought Jay z was as good as he's said to be but then again I'm from where the best rap is from.... California

[@iknown0thing]

😂

[@meladgoat]

you got gavin newsome over there. ya'll automatically disqualified. plus jay wrote the biggest anthem to ever come out of California. dr dre - still dre. lol stay mad

[@Xbox360mIRC]

Communist rapping.

[@boppsykes3623]

That's False because with out the East coast creating Hip Hop there is no Hip Hop An that's a ultimate fact 😅

[@marketsmoto3180]

maybe Dame is too slow

[@christopherm202dcfinest2]

Why when the record labels said Jay rapped slow

[@yeshua3374]

Nah Jay used to rap in triplets super fast. Listen to 7 minute freestyle with Big L.

[@itsjustgab8455]

Don't believe the hype... Dame Dash is Byron Allen rich and mad smart! The man doesn't need the folks that's trying to dis!

[@harminderjitgill571]

"Pause" never quite caught on, but Dame is still rocking it.

[@alpachinos]

Where u from

[@harminderjitgill571]

@@alpachinos Toronto

[@meladgoat]

you must be a kid. cause pause been on since 2001. its actually big now again thanks to cam and mase. even joyner lucas and a lot of the top rappers use it

[@harminderjitgill571]

@meladgoat I'm actually Dame's age. I've never heard anyone other than Dame, Cam and Mase use it. Certainly not in the category of "Ya heard.".

[@TheLast-BoyScout.33]

This guy has so much unwaranted arrogance. Kudos to PBD for putting up with Danes BS... Its like Dude, you pimped out a few guys back in the day who knew how to rhyme words, get over yourself! i felt like i had to shower my my brain after listening to this guys back and fourth nonsense.

[@AI-Consultant]

give me one example in this video.

[@TheLast-BoyScout.33]

@DeepThinkingGPU watch the whole podcast, you'll see

[@jacobmakgato3575]

Enough Dame - how much can one man talk about another man? 😢

[@Bradleyjohsnon]

Ask dame the lame if he paid his debt to that movie producer 😂😮

[@dpone6814]

Dam is a Hell of a Guy lol

[@ortizmusic7115]

Nice to see Dame on the podcast, 👌🫡🫡 very true, Jay never had that Harlem swag, dame speaking historical truth.

[@mattbutler5083]

Pbd should have Tom Macdonald on. He has an inspiring story.

[@javiervega1065]

he's terrible

[@SA-rt6ei]

Man wtf lmao st fu

[@clintprice2123]

This was too painful to listen to, at just over 2 minutes it was obvious there was zero to learn here. Who is he and is that even understandable by ANYONE?!

[@AI-Consultant]

i learned some stuff. probally cause I don't listen to JayZ so i'm not taking sides.

[@aleksey826]

Well Patrick its not your intellectual level. Dude can’t put 2 words together. You know you know you know what I mean

[@ThePeacefulbutterfly]

His use of the word pause is so juvenile 😂

[@charlesmtl]

lol dame is a clown

[@largefarva5409]

Pause

[@ericlandry7890]

Yeah Jay-z use to rap like Das-EFX shit was WACK! He never sold shit till he slowed it down.

[@KingBISHOP-mt5ok]

Dame please put HE THINKS YOUR STUPID

[@TrillEverything]

You're...ninjas smh

[@cfish3865]

I can’t get into this . What’s the big deal about Jay Z? What about dudes like master P he had a gold plated tank. Did he loose all of his money? I doubt it and he sure didn’t make all that money in music. I’d like to get together all the billionaire hip hop dudes together and see what’s what. This dude was simply lucky

[@cityguyable]

Jay also looked like Joe Camel. That didn’t help.

[@tonkajahari3010]

80IQ means everything is too fast for you.

[@int3533]

Clark Kent was a bum who was getting extorted on the regular.

[@kvantonio2001]

Yeah I remember Hawaiian Sophie Jay Z rapping fast I couldn't stand that style😂😂

[@goodvybz1246]

Patrick called Gza...Gee Zee Eh😅

[@jefrey914]

**pause**

[@MONKMONEY-hu1gw]

Why is dame talking with lisp or slur or whatever

[@MOTV583]

5:04 Diddy parties.

[@jenkinsmanly-spain1252]

Oh sh*t ya'll got Dame. Dame about to sell his half of blueprint

[@PassionataDance]

Mar mari was just stabbed. Please send your prayers.

[@La_ilaha_illallah__]

You can easily connect the timeline of his man dame and the plug together. Dame just alerted ny pd so casually

[@boobills718]

This dude is a bird!!!! "Most dudes from Brooklyn didn't wear night airs"

[@geraldkaupp5380]

I’ve always thought of rap as cocaine babble

[@scatterbrain33]

He thought Jay z was cool becuse he wore Nike airs ! am I missing something here ?

[@Slim-u8j]

Facts

[@johnnyblazem5326]

Dame have a relationship with will smith was not so fast

[@pressentertainment199]

No wonder he hates lyor lol

[@TTG_JG]

Roc fellas. no diddy.

[@hoagiefresh32]

These guys knew they are or were being watched. Instead of the investigations coming to the individuals for information, they are bringing the information to those who are doing the investigations. A whole bunch of irrelevant talking. Same kept talking because the longer he talks, the less personal questions can be asked.

[@stiffrichard2816]

I like Patrick and I like this show but I have a lot of subscriptions and this show constantly auto-plays after everything I watch. I tried unsubscribing but it still always comes on and buries my other subscriptions. Now I'll have to block it or something.

[@AC-zo9sw]

Damon is extremely unbearable 😵‍💫

[@mickeyn757]

He's jealous because jay z made it and he flopped