This is a Lot to learn in a single video ! I am a boomer and like to improve my game , you definitively help me , thank You.
@aldopalacios3357 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best TT tutorial videos. Thank you very much. I hope to use all these tips and techniques during my next training and matches.
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
Best of luck!
@Pingpongcraze5 ай бұрын
Great video!!! Tqvm!!! Keep it up ❤❤
@chandanreddy200022 күн бұрын
That return at 5:12 was incredible
@ali_bawa Жыл бұрын
If you have to watch only a single video. This is the one
@pongbotstore3 ай бұрын
Returning serves with confidence now! This guide covers everything from basics to advanced techniques. Great work! 🌟🏓
@turnatle Жыл бұрын
So helpful! The coaching is amazing! I loved the graph and the in-depth explanations. I've been having troubles with serve returns for a while now, but I've never thought of it this deeply! Thank so much, this will improve my gameplay for sure!
@XANA9623 күн бұрын
You earnt a new sub. Im still trying to figure out what float means but im glad im seeing some well explained fundamentals. Keep it up. As for those who didnt understand the video, I'd focus on each term used and try and play it out on a table so you can understand it. 'Spin theory' isnt easy for many people, including myself.
@myself6745Ай бұрын
One tip bros Returning sidespin is like translation of a function( math application) Like heavier sidespin equates to higher angle tilt And the direction of play is on the tilted axes
@Spinspiel Жыл бұрын
You should also mention listening to the impact sound of bat hitting the ball on the serve. Loud vs soft impact sound can contribute to reading backspin vs topspin serve. Also the way a server holds the bat has to taken into account on topspin, backspin & float reading. For instance I do what I call a reverse tomahawk where the bottom of the handle is at 12 o'clock, so now you have to read the bat hitting the ball from a different orientation including if sidespin is added. Thanks for the info - loved the graphic on 3 types of returns vs type of serve.
@arphilleczarexabayan83992 ай бұрын
i stopped playing coz lacking knowledge of different spin... thank you so much forthis video ❤
@swaminathansubramaniam8137 Жыл бұрын
Very useful & explained in detail. I am confident now to return the different types of services in a better way without giving service points. Thank you 😊
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear!
@gregplays962 ай бұрын
Hello. I just doubt about the float sample and demonstration. It seems they are not the same. Since float is from bottom to middle but the serve demonstrated is going down. May I know how it differs? Thank you
@UjjwalSidhu Жыл бұрын
Man this was amazing could you do a video of teaching/showing differnet kind of serves too? for more variations to keep in arsenal.
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes I’ll try to do that over the next few months 👍🏻
@UjjwalSidhu Жыл бұрын
@@rationalttanalysis oki doki :)
@cafephin2024 Жыл бұрын
@@rationalttanalysis could you please consider underspin hook serve in your future video as it seems to be very hard for me to generate good underspin for hook/jab serve let alone disguise the serve.
@laaqer Жыл бұрын
The slow motion serves video will be a great video to study, if you will comment the spin and how we can judge it. Like in your first three examples. Thanks in advance!!!
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
sure, will do a range of serve demonstrations in the next few weeks so stay tuned!
@cafephin2024 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another excellent video Elliott.
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
Very welcome! Hope you enjoyed it!
@Bub0093 ай бұрын
Awesome video.This was easy to understand.
@deadly2129 Жыл бұрын
I got all the three corect topspin , backspin and float
@YES_FAKE5 ай бұрын
Thank you this helped me a lot in a real game
@bisaaja38155 ай бұрын
Terima kasih, video yang sangat bermanfaat dan menambah pengetahuan saya tentang cara bermain tenis meja.
@aldenloo64248 ай бұрын
Very good teaching. Well done.
@lucaslupus1 Жыл бұрын
Waiting already for the next video 🎉
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
Thanks :D Hopefully it'll be out on Sunday!
@JolinTT Жыл бұрын
Great tutorials 🙌😊 many thanks
@charliethewanderer6872 Жыл бұрын
I see you have done lots of research. Thank you for sharing.
@warrensha2 ай бұрын
Very good job
@Adventure923811 ай бұрын
Excellent Tips
@baxi3838_SG Жыл бұрын
thanks for this video. i learned a lot. can you please provide some "practice drills" you have with a partner. i just go to the club not knowing what to do.
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
Sure! Do you mean practice drills for serve receive or just practice drills in general ?
@SharawyFit Жыл бұрын
Thank you, keep going
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Britain_and_Rome8 ай бұрын
Great vid. Thank you 🙏❤️✨🥇✨👌
@zizo015 Жыл бұрын
Top content
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@PimVree4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@uwemmcc8 ай бұрын
Thanx, cool tip!
@ferdoushasan878511 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@stefanhansen58823 ай бұрын
This was absolutely amazing! Thanks a lot! I'm a new player. Any advice about which serves to focus on learning as a left-handed player?
@rationalttanalysis2 ай бұрын
As a left-hander, the go-to serve is to serve to a right-hander's forehand short. Try use a pendulum serve so the ball curves away from your opponent's forehand ( left-hander's backhand)
@stefanhansen58822 ай бұрын
@@rationalttanalysis Thanks! I'll try that.
@happyer881Ай бұрын
why the second serve (at 2:13) is topspin?
@yitderp7554Ай бұрын
Same question
@chocosheepart3328Ай бұрын
the ball hits the topside of the racket. Bottom side of the racket = backspin Middle side = no spin top side = ropspon
@parthsavyasachi9348 Жыл бұрын
Very good content
@UpaliSaha10 ай бұрын
Excellent vdo
@csasportcsa9 ай бұрын
Amazing
@MAG-INSTINCT9 ай бұрын
one more note for the "service placement" part: if you're watching where the ball touches the table, you're already late and will lose the point! Watch how high the opponent touches the ball! If your opponent lowers the ball to the top of the table, you get a long ball! If it is high, half high, near the chest, the ball will surely be short! It is almost impossible to serve short by hitting the ball close to the table...:) But of course, there is a technique for that too ;) If you use this tip, you have way more time to react and action: step back and attack long balls >> u MUST attack EVERY long ball in TT!
@rationalttanalysis9 ай бұрын
Amazing tip!
@MAG-INSTINCT9 ай бұрын
💪🏓@@rationalttanalysis
@spinsports3459 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@WorldPingPongVideo Жыл бұрын
Nice
@WorldPingPongVideo Жыл бұрын
Nice bro, thanks.
@thehoundofthegamingvilles20124 ай бұрын
ADAM BOBROW!!!!!!!!
@Niki_Parvanov8 ай бұрын
Useful
@oxygentank00 Жыл бұрын
✅ for any normal side spin (right or left), just receive it with a top spin push or top spin smash. ✅ for a side under spin (right or left), just push it with a chop or hard chop. The difficulty of the service lies on how you read it and how fast you react. Practice!
@GidongLinog10 ай бұрын
tq for this
@martincordero5350 Жыл бұрын
Hi, great video, congrats!, but I think there is a mistake. In the time 2:12 of the video, the serve is float, it's not topspin as you said becase the movement of the stroke is from high to low position...are you agree?
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words! Although the overall movement is from a high to low position, as the server contacts the ball, his wrist actually flicks upwards, therefore producing topspin. Remember it is only the contact point that matters. This serve can be deceptive at times and it is called the hook serve. I have made a video on how to execute this serve : kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGa2m3qupsd4e7Msi=1nYtst1GkymbN6JX&t=35 Hope this helps! 😀
@KAHPUFLOW9 ай бұрын
Thanks! This helps a lot! I was wondering: Are there some tips / tactics to return serves from a pen hold player? In practice the spins principles are the same of course, but are there some commonly played serves or ways of hitting from a pen hold player that requires some specific adjustments? THANKS!
@rationalttanalysis9 ай бұрын
As a penholder you have an advantage when receiving short serves as you have more flexibility in the wrist. The forehand flick is always a great short to learn for penholders when it comes to returning serves, this can apply to any spin, topspin, backspin, sidespin... so yeah, try to develop the control when returning short serves. I will try making videos specifically for penholders in the coming weeks...
@KAHPUFLOW9 ай бұрын
thanks for your answer. I actually asked how to return from a pen holder. So I am not a pen holder, but sometimes play with penholders ;-)@@rationalttanalysis
@synergy19169 ай бұрын
1:30 Only applicable for shakehand grip.
@Blackain66 Жыл бұрын
nice video, there are some errors / misconceptions in it thou coz it is not this easy in reality: 1) ur division of the blade is not true always, it contradicts the common pendulum topspin serve where u hit the ball at the end of a full wrist motion with the "lower" part of the blade at the left of the handle, so ur picture at 1:51 is wrong in that case where it is topspin and not backspin 2) the shuffle serve at 2:13 is not topspin it is a pure sidespin serve with an added downward motion to distract the reciever and he is pushing with a very open bat-angle which is why the ball is going high, coz it has zero backspin on it but not coz it is topspin it is impossible to produce topspin without any kind of upward motion regardless of where u contact the ball on the blade, at best it can be float / pure sidespin, the only other way is throwing the ball high and letting it fall on ur half-opened racket on which the ball gets a slight topspin on its own from the falling speed, but that doesnt comes from any racket movement
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! Good spot for the first point! I'm not too sure about the pendulum topspin serve, maybe you're right! I need to try it out next time when I go down to my club. But I'm just wondering if you contact the lower part of your bat for the pendulum topspin, which part of the bat do you contact for the pendulum backspin? For the second point, I'm pretty sure that serve is side-topspin. If you look carefully and in slow motion, the server did move his bat upwards before going down as the after-motion. But you're right, to produce topspin, there must be an upward motion.
@Youda00008 Жыл бұрын
This should have been a 60 FPS video. Reading a serve from 30 FPS video where the most important part often happens between the frames is rather impossible.
@darekk7459 Жыл бұрын
What is difference between push and touch?
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
Touch is a short push
@artaz899 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@Shiva-qu6wp10 ай бұрын
Good video. But noone explains properly how to Return that Side spin (especially the windshield piper) serve. Even in your Table you showed, Sidespin returning Strategy is missing. u have covered only Topspin & Backspin in that.
@AUDIODIDACTS Жыл бұрын
Thank you... Good and helpful tutorial. What is a float serve? I don't understand. Does anybody know the german word for float serve ...???
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
Float serve is a serve with no spin
@AUDIODIDACTS Жыл бұрын
@@rationalttanalysis thank you for this information...!!! 🙏🙏🙏
@margonosiyo1827 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the lesson... Would be better the text are not in white colour
@franciscomanrique49795 ай бұрын
👏🏼👏🏽
@laddugamer27823 ай бұрын
One word, attack Attack the ball no matter what the spin is
@matttom4325 ай бұрын
2:10 i'm a newbie in table tennis, i see the bat motion is going downward, how can it be a top spin?
@rationalttanalysis2 ай бұрын
It went up before it goes down, watch very closely...
@antomv3 ай бұрын
Oke manteb
@sebastianosewolf23673 күн бұрын
don't get me wrong but the second is no top spin
@GauPPong Жыл бұрын
Tuyệt vời
@tsunningwah3471Ай бұрын
一開始的球不是側下旋嗎
@toholisema4u10 ай бұрын
Am i the only one who did not understand anything
@neelammanhas12374 ай бұрын
Of course
@arleneP.T.4 ай бұрын
Yes you’re the only one
@botao44564 ай бұрын
Dont worry many people was and are like you. It takes years to master receiving pendulum/reverse pendulum serves, not mention to other kinds of serve such as tomahawk, backhand, hook serve etc...
@zayyartun2812 ай бұрын
You r not alone 😂 you can count me.
@JaDy-pn8tz2 ай бұрын
slow it down
@arthurb4240 Жыл бұрын
You can produce any spin with any part of the bat, there is nothing like: when the ball hits the top part its topspin You can see it in minute 2:50
@luislomeli8732 Жыл бұрын
Yea spin definitely depends on the motion your racket is doing when contacting the ball. Idk what this guy was talking about
@dazstuff1875 Жыл бұрын
lost me at 0:38. the first serve it side/back spin not side/top lol
@ghazaliawg5570 Жыл бұрын
look hard,i'm still learning..🤔
@JustCrazy.0_o Жыл бұрын
First one is not side topspin it's side backspin
@vaibhav.purohit Жыл бұрын
It is side topspin!!
@naale_editz Жыл бұрын
I think its side bacmspin
@arthurb4240 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@fryday1036 Жыл бұрын
A half long backspin serve doesn’t kick forward like that, so we know it’s topspin :)
@yudistiraliem1359 ай бұрын
Look at the elbow, if it’s high, then topspin. Ma long is pulling upwards while doing it creating topspin
@АлексейПешков-г8ь Жыл бұрын
First bounce location does not tell about the length of the serve. Ball bounce arc middle point does not need to be exactly over the net. It can be far on your or opponent's halves.
@DanielLosada-f9e4 күн бұрын
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@aldoantoniovicentesilva6996 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍 🏓 💪💪💪💪💪
@ogeffert39110 ай бұрын
You telling us that touching at the lower half of the racket ( at the service ) means BACKSPIN. That is definetely nonsense. It depends on where to you move the racket while hitting. Upward forward then means topspin.
@tipudelacablu7 ай бұрын
The spin doesn't have anything to do with where the ball touches the racket - it only depends on how the racket moves. Also, in the example that you wanted us to see, it only shows the back of the player and the back of the racket - you can't say where the ball touches it.
@medem65 Жыл бұрын
VERY SOFISTICATED//BUT THANKS!
@bluepawn Жыл бұрын
The rule should be changed : 3 sec before the serve, the whole (100% of all the racket) racket and the whole full arm should be visible. In volley ball there s lots of rules about the serve as well and the ball is much slower than ping-pong.
@ericcostellosmith846011 ай бұрын
This isn’t ping pong it’s table tennis, two different sports.
@antonitobendrito22437 ай бұрын
Honestly the spin should not be allowed, few weeks ago I played with some seniors and obviously I was faster, creative and overall better as long as we played normal / flat.. but as soon as this old lady start usings those weird spins almost none of my balls landed on the table etc… it just feels not good because I am obviously more athletic, younger etc overall talented, but of course they are using spiny serves and get free points
@inquistive Жыл бұрын
He says that if the bat contacts the ball at the bottom of the bat it is backspin and topspin for the upper half of the bat. This is not true. The ball can hit any part of the rubber/bat, the type of spin is determined by the direction of the bat at impact.
@flyinglights27 ай бұрын
Poor audio! Poor audio! Poor audio! You are fare away from microphone.
@antonitobendrito22437 ай бұрын
Also this video did not help at all.. you only made things even more complicated.. f everyone who is using strong spins and getting free points against new players etc
@lamkc12974 ай бұрын
Your explanation is too complex. I don't understand at all . I think we just play and no need to understand.
@Bub0093 ай бұрын
It was all very clear and easy.I don't understand which part you didn't get.
@rj84978 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Tradersmagazine13 Жыл бұрын
Amazing
@jonboy29504 ай бұрын
You made the return of sidespin too complicated. To return sidespin just aim in the direction from where the servers bat originated from.
@pingpongstev Жыл бұрын
Good channel, thanks for the sharing, and clear guidelines
@isoukous10359 ай бұрын
I have learned a lot from your video. Thank you so much.
@ziutyyy Жыл бұрын
Kamera powinna byc od strony odbierajacego imitujac sytuacje meczowa tak aby było widac serwującego przeciwnika. A tak to film bezuzyteczny
@rationalttanalysis Жыл бұрын
Dziękuję za Twój komentarz! Doceniam Twoją opinię. Rozumiem Twój punkt widzenia i wezmę go pod uwagę przy tworzeniu kolejnych filmów. Cenne jest dla mnie słyszeć różne perspektywy dotyczące kątów kamery, i postaram się poprawić jakość oglądania. Bądź na bieżąco, bo czekają Cię kolejne emocjonujące materiały!
@saishvi19 ай бұрын
Good lesson
@reygaming5651 Жыл бұрын
Thx....love it
@julest2503 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing serve return video! Thank so much 🙏🙏⭐️⭐️⭐️🔥 I will subscribe & share it to my pp friends, looking forward for another great vids !