Raymond Daniels vs Michael Page

Mens Finals - Irish Open 2011

[@ATACXGYMTAEKWONDO]

Absolutely love this matchup. These guys aren't cocky, they're very confident and very very smart. Very cagey. They are masterful psych manipulators, and that's what the style flash and antics are for. These moves manipulate their opponent AND entertain the crowd at the same time. It's very deliberate, very well thought out, very effective and very very difficult to do regularly at a high level and maintain the level of success that these guys have.

[@RenosDK]

They’re definitely both very cocky

[@LAZ-OFFICIAL-MUSIC]

Point fighting gets corny when niggas is just hopping around then lunge forward head first into a blitz. These guys mad cocky too. Speaking as a point fighting champion myself I cant stand watch some of these dudes spar. smh. like these points should not be drawn out into unnecessary hopping for 45 seconds. Like hit ur opponent.

[@readytorumblesports]

you should put this in description: Michael page is the one in the white and Raymond Daniels is in the black.

[@renetroncoso1605]

I just looked for that in the description haha

[@ZPSBestProfileName]

It's sort of easy considering the only people coming here will be people who know them and thus know their different stances

[@checklefthook8206]

@@ZPSBestProfileName or just look at the height difference.😂

[@ethanserafinowicz6626]

Daniels always remain southpaw.

[@ronnelpineda8384]

Michael is always like dancing😂

[@tiebro2196]

Who was here because of bellator?

[@AndrewLomax80]

Lol sure am

[@simpinecone]

was this quick silver vs flash

[@matthewliambird]

Imagine if they both had an mma match at the ufc?? That would be a scary pay per view ..

[@This_is_fun144]

I’d pay for that

[@jo7375]

Both of em are at bellator right now

[@MrRobjs83]

they are both in Bellator, they should face each other in the cage there

[@Kettlebot]

Raymond would get eaten alive

[@granimations2510]

he is now

[@pendulumdistinction2494]

Magnificent fight! Great camera footage. Thank you for sharing.

[@dhannyscanas7757]

Si te gustan las Artes Marciales y en especial el PF. Amas estos peleadores. Fueron mi inspiracion en mi estilo de pelea. Unos duros.

[@michaelbrantley2782]

These are quite literally the two best strikers out there in today's day and age. Their speed, timing, distance control, footwork, reaction speed, sharp technique, etc. are so extremely high level it's unbelievable. I enjoy watching all of both RD's and MVP's fights without fail every time :D

[@issaknife3030]

I would like to see them both in the ufc, see how they hold up

[@KRISTIANSMILJANIC]

Michael Brantley best strikers in the world is way to high praise.

[@DanielGarcia-dd7vu]

issa knife look up michael page then lol hes in mma undefeated too lol

[@ridizzle189]

bellator though

[@joesheridan9451]

No way the best strikers in the world, good the best k1 guys would smash them to smithereens, let alone what top thais at lumpinee would do...

[@matthewsylvester]

Daniels REALLY psychs himself up for the fight! Page is a total gentleman, can't believe he's in the cage now!

[@giorgiopigola]

PAGE a gentleman?!?! FUCK YOU

[@panagiotisk.8699]

@@giorgiopigola This comment is 8 years ago. MVP migh was more gentle back then 😂

[@SeekingTheTruth5]

Michael is on another level and you will all realise soon!

[@AiMzMp]

Fucking hell, you called it man lol

[@arayahtaylor4944]

Shit that's so true bruh.. After 7 years of ur comment reality came to pass

[@tama-a-tumatauengahiku3647]

Then gets knocked out cold by Brian Lima

[@graciashermano725]

@@tama-a-tumatauengahiku3647 one loss dummy

[@sluggak1363]

Did u realized what level he is on last i heard the floor

[@agustiintkd5300]

Dos de los peleadores mas talentosos de la historia

[@mmafight8575]

michael page vs raymond daniels in mma. who would win ? mvp all the way

[@brynhecker3235]

even fight mvp in the end

[@d20Fitness]

I'm so glad i'm not a judge for this, lol. Two of the best that ever played the game difference of fractions of fractions of a second between the shots that made contact. no way I'd call it accurate

[@MrRobjs83]

time for them to go at it inside the Bellator cage this time 👊🤜

[@marvelleonline]

As an outsider to this scoring system - I felt MVP was doing more and connecting more throught the bout. Was that knockdown where he lost balance and sat scored that highly?

[@DeclanHillman]

the first strike landed is scored and then they break. Looks like biased judging though

[@yermisncaraballod.7310]

MVP #UFC (withe) RD #KarateKombat (black)🇻🇪🇧🇷🥋

[@filipedesouzapereira1148]

what style of fighting?

[@coryoconnor4231]

Karate

[@ΘοδωρηςΤσουλφας-υ4ο]

Point fighting kickboxing

[@emmy4537]

point karate

[@mikevandenboogaard9732]

No this is W.A.K.O Kickboxing...in the GB open.Went there with our Dutch team Then.This fighting system is point stop system. Normalie with WAKO you keep fighting afther a point.Thatscthe normal system.Same as I.T.F Tae-kwondo..But at the GB open i had to Fight Daniells ones...hé was mutch jonger than. That time i won...But the years afther that one hé got way way more confident .Ant afther that year in the finale manny times it was between M.V.P and Daniells.Still love to see the new generations..I advise to see matches of a training friend of mine...Tomaz Barada from Slovenië. Hé,s the 6 time Europese champ and 3 times World champ itf Tae-kwondo And 5 Times World Champion W.A.K.O Kickboxing...He,s a Dangerous Tasmanië Devil ego dominated the I.T.F Tae-kwondo World And the W.A.K.O Kickboxing World for 15 years. Its a shame he came to late for the uprishing of MMA...😃💪💯👊

[@BELL2mk316]

This is the “tag you’re it” style of fighting.

[@danawhite1177]

I knew MVP was a point fighter. I could tell from watching him in MMA

[@emmy4537]

it was obvious

[@kobiecamp1134]

Just like you can tell Stephen Thompson(in the UFC) was a point fighter.

[@zain1m107]

MVP's villain arc started here

[@cloudsong3452]

태권도 빅매치. 어렵게 찾아봤습니다. 두 선수들의 태권도 몸놀림이 가히 빠르다. 레이먼드&마이클 둘다 good~

[@Sapsapsap22]

Yep, that helped. Thanks!

[@bergssprangare]

Kinda like this sport

[@EfrenGarcia-l5c]

Incredible robery

[@burritobandit45]

The one guy mvp knows will style on him

[@peted7891]

Wow you could not have found a worse place to record that but behind a ref

[@mohdip]

3:33 “BOMBSQUAAAAD”

[@primemartialartsacademy2280]

Right?! I'm so confused!!!

[@alexanderschenk3459]

The judges was missing a lot of calls😂

[@srlaranja7516]

Qual o nome da luta?

[@Lbcyoung]

Light Contact Kickboxing

[@tontonkaldoche3481]

Absolute fighting bolts twins !

[@TiagoPortas]

holy shit... they dont stop to invent things...

[@GOJU4LIFE1]

I agree 376. You can tell Mike change his fight style alil bit

[@atlg.anti-lag4798]

Page winner

[@Boxing_Reviews]

love how raymond daniels won cuz we both have the same reach

[@charliecovert576]

Point karate hasn't changed, fighting in a basement, poor calls, the spectators were competitors, probably no prize money, I'm glad I got old.

[@amhawk8742]

Takeaway: southpaw works better than orthodox for point fighting (dominant hand in front for speed instead of having it back for power).

[@javieralejandrofloresmaldo4089]

No tardan en pelear en bellator

[@Sapsapsap22]

Can anyone explain to me what fighting style/under which rules this is? It looks like a combination of Karate, Kickboxing and Taekwondo.

[@ikenga02]

Sapsapsap22 Point karate

[@robozebu]

@@Lbcyoung you obviously don't know a point fighting tournament when you see one

[@emmy4537]

point karate

[@emmy4537]

@@Lbcyoung no it’s not. listen to your own advice smh lol

[@Aryzn]

This is point karate@@Lbcyoung

[@andykelly7321]

"Sweep the leg!"

[@ronnelpineda8384]

Raymond become stronger now.

[@Juuk-D]

Same with Michael + he learnt wrestling and kick boxing

[@conorsargent3152]

But could they pull a crowd like Richard Kieley?

[@nikolasmaes99]

to bad, I was for Page

[@Thaigo36]

theyre very cocky both xD but thats make them whom they are

[@wagner2345678]

gogo power rangers

[@pnsmexico]

This is like Spy vs. Spy

[@oksanagilroy1950]

Page threw a hammer fist from lead hand during 1st exchange

[@emmy4537]

It was a reverse punch into a hammer fist.

[@popeyemarsh]

Interesting ... Raymond slow to raise as a star as if he was doing that intentionally while Michael fast raise as a star doing that intentionally . The way I look at it as if Raymond is the old lion and Michael is the young lion rasing to be the king of the cage while Raymond pick the right time just to walk in and walk out graciously compares to Michael to walk in and walk out roaring saying here I am and I am here to claim the Bellator .

[@balderasdavid7461]

Los 2 taekwondistas

[@rocket5557]

Wow that was crazy! Someone could have really gotten hurt. Good thing no meaningful strikes were thrown or a fight might have broken out!

[@OnlyAverageMj]

rocket5557 Have you seen their respective careers outside of point fighting?

[@kobiecamp1134]

LMAO

[@bally856]

This some street fighter shit

[@lfcwilli]

All show no go, or as real fighters call it ‘a twitch off’. Jk both are great

[@sinaloagoon6961]

At 3:34 someone in the crowd screams "Bomb Squaaaaad" Deontai Wilder reference 👍

[@GaryMagic91]

Raymond lost in his only MMA fight in Strikeforce...

[@arayahtaylor4944]

How did Raymond win.. He got schooled loll. Anyway we know mike will out him in mma

[@sluggak1363]

Like lima did him elite competitors fuck up mvp

[@Juuk-D]

@@sluggak1363 He lost one fight and weirdos like you go crazy, just shows how good he is. He be shocking losers like you by loosing.

[@rockdon8999]

@@Juuk-D because he lost to knockout contention to be one of the greatest knockout in entire history. the way he got knockout was funny😂

[@overseer3072]

Why mvp lunging like a fucking tiger

[@emmy4537]

it’s called a blitz

[@GOJU4LIFE1]

TOPTEN vs SAP

[@미우미우-g4n]

최고라고 생각했던 레이먼드vs마이클 페이지 정작 얘네 둘 경기는 노잼이네 ㅋㅋ

[@jaywill4ever]

You must be a Kimbo fan.You probably think he's the baddest man on the planet.

[@kobiecamp1134]

What does the late Kimbo Slice have to do with this?

[@danieltrujillo176]

Now lets change game! Mma rules jajaja 😏😏

[@oksanagilroy1950]

Daniels drops him with beautiful rrear cross to the sternum perfect timing precision ..thats why he would beat mvp in mma more power than his point fight style and smaller glove

[@MrTechnoiGeek]

-84 kilos

[@jefferyschirm4103]

Why does a world class fighter have to act like a clown.

[@Juuk-D]

It's tactic to get into people's head smoothbrain, that's what seperate you and him, he has a brain and uses it.

[@michaelgardner2088]

Never got this style. Both great fighters but this style? I don't see the point. It's more like armoured tag..may as well fight with a baloon on a stick

[@Spright91]

its fencing without the swords

[@emmy4537]

point karate. it’s very effective if you have an understanding of other martial arts. it’ll be hard to beat someone with this style in a real fight. hit and not get hit. watch their kickboxing and mma fights. this style is what gave them a lot of success.

[@MrPenball]

@Saltukcan Doing his job... was the camera man in a wheelchair? MOVE THE CAMERA OR DONT POST YOUR HORRIBLE FILMING ABILITIES ON TUBE!

[@kobiecamp1134]

And what if the cameraman was actually in a wheelchair?

[@gb2115]

Holy shit just watch their feet the whole fight. What sport is quicker and lighter on the feet???

[@smackbarm_peywet6533]

its either this or fishing

[@donald2108]

It's similar to basketball

[@bally856]

Darts

[@Juuk-D]

No combat sports atleast

[@angelomagtajasgenuinekarao8528]

they look like not fighting.. looks like who will be the first to touch the face and body.. point system su*ks..

[@viindy09]

Lo re cagaron...

[@goldenchildtheater]

Is this fucking tag or what? Why do they need all that protective gear if they don't even hit each other?

[@kevinbelden]

goldenchildtheater I want to see Raymond Daniels punch you

[@kevinbelden]

Very tag esque

[@kevinbelden]

Tag until knockout

[@phillipward6015]

It’s point karate I think it’s one of the best ways to train accuracy and discipline

[@Cailean_MacCoinnich]

@@phillipward6015 exactly. They could stand toe to toe and trade punches like other formats, or they could have amazing speed and timing, so they fence with each other looking for an opening. It's more like fencing mixed with chess tactics than just knocking the crap out of each other. I trained along side mvp's father back in the 90's. The points format back then was a bit less tag like until the hey days of Kev brewerton and Alfie Lewis, but the training is just the same. High fitness and hard sparring. That's why they can both fight in other formats like mma too.

[@lionellcharles1524]

Two GREAT fighter competing with SUPER GAY point system rules YAWN

[@Juuk-D]

Blah blah go watch UFC then

[@user-hm8jc4sp5x]

パンチ下手じゃね？

[@issaknife3030]

yes

[@clanscam]

Thats some bullshit , i would like to know how come half the strikes mvp landed the points were givin to the opponent

[@Webbie2689]

I respect it, but what a weird sport.

[@emmy4537]

point karate. it’s not weird, just different. it’s a very effective striking base. both of their kickboxing/mma fights are proof of that.

[@kobiecamp1134]

What's weird about it?

[@gabegabes6419]

Wtf is this bull ship, playing (he touched me girly game)?

[@emmy4537]

point karate. it’s not bs. go watch either of their kickboxing/mma fights.

[@kobiecamp1134]

And what the hell is bull ship?

[@gabegabes6419]

@@kobiecamp1134 I mean theres 2 words, bull and ship, do you read engrish?

[@kobiecamp1134]

@@gabegabes6419 I said what the hell is bull ship. I didn't ask if it made up 2 words. So did you graduate from highschool, and when you were in school were you in special education.

[@kevinbryantsr.6443]

Gay tag

[@Juuk-D]

You wish ❄️

[@emmy4537]

point karate. it’s not weird, just different. it’s a very effective striking base. both of their kickboxing/mma fights are proof of that.

[@kevinbryantsr.6443]

@@emmy4537 both are supremely athletic but this isn’t in any way fighting. They whole point of the UFC being invented was to show that this kind of stuff doesn’t work in a real fight. Like I said it’s basically tag, which they also have a world championship for now 🤦🏻

[@emmy4537]

@@kevinbryantsr.6443 you’re clueless. it’s an effective base because most people don’t know how to fight against it. it translates well into mma and kickboxing. like I said, go watch either of their mma fights. daniels also competed in kickboxing. my cousin and coach (bobby seronio) has the same base and competes in bellator (2-0 about to be 3-0), and no one knows how to deal with our style. there are also fighters like stephen thompson who made a name for himself.