RayStorm (Sega Saturn vs PlayStation) Gameplay Comparison

[@jodafro619]

i have to giveit to the ps1 version. ess slow down. better transparency effects. ut the saturn port still looks great in some areas and it has some cut scene that the ps1 doesn't have.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

One thing to keep in mind: The original arcade version was running on the Taito’s FX-1 System, which is a PlayStation-based board. So the people trying to claim the Saturn version is somehow more arcade accurate need to take a step back.

[@caseyhayes4590]

I think Soukyugurentai is the only STV TItan (saturn arcade board) game ported to PS1. Would be interesting to see that side by side. Kind of the opposite of this.

[@RookiesdelBillar]

@@NB-1 Lo que mis ojos dicen es que la PSX se ve mas fluido y la SATURN no

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@Baubles1337 Imagine trying to use "homosexual" as an insult in 2024.

[@RookiesdelBillar]

@@SomeOrangeCat Esa persona esta denunciada por homofobo

[@RookiesdelBillar]

@@Baubles1337 Eres homofobo o que chaval estas denunciado

[@fordxbgtfalcon]

On the road to 100k subscribers! You deserve it for all of hard work you put into these videos.

[@MoonScythe1]

It should be mentioned that this game was designed for the PlayStation hardware. The original arcade version runs on the Taito FX-1B arcade board, which is basically a modified, slightly faster PlayStation. Much in common with Namco's System 11. With that said, although it's a bit rough, the Saturn version was a good effort despite the lack of translucency and slowdowns. But the PS version is definitely more polished, and rightfully so. Would have loved if Radiant Silvergun had a port to the PlayStation as that game was designed from the ground up for the Saturn/ST-V Titan arcade board. So, it makes heavy use of VDP2. Would be cool to see how the devs would have worked around it as those infinite planes would hit the PlayStation's GTE pretty hard. Love this era of hardware as consoles back in these days always provided something unique, which gave them character.

[@Leo-xh8pp]

As duas versões têm as suas vantagens e desvantagens! Ótimo vídeo Você Decide ! 👍

[@DesertRainReads]

Hmmm...now this is an interesting comparison. On the one hand, the Saturn version has a brighter color palette and cool cutscenes that are absent from the PSOne version but on the other, the PSOne version has better transparency usages and less slowdown than the Saturn overall. Still, a great game is a great game and you can't go wrong with this one no matter what platform you play it on. Shame the Saturn version never made it overseas though.

[@Versatil-1980]

DesertRainReads Te comento que las transparencias no influyen, ya que estos juegos fueron diseñados para televisores CRT... Te aseguro que esos puntos o pixeles no se notarían en un televisor CRT. :) Aunque habría que ver cual de las dos versiones de este videojuego se vería mejor dependiendo que tipo de televisor se utilice. Por un lado el televisor CRT de marca Philips se ve más suavizado, pero por otro lado el televisor CRT de SONI Trinitron se ve con mayor definición... Tal vez si se conectara la versión de PlayStation en un CRT de Trinitron se vería fabuloso, y quizás si se conectara la versión de SEGA Saturn en este mismo televisor se vería con nitidez excesiva por lo que seria mejor probarlo en un televisor marca Philips para que se viera correctamente... No lo se con seguridad, pero habría que hacer la prueba... Ahora si me preguntas con cual versión yo me quedaría... Pues valga la redundancia, diría una vez mas: SEEEGGAAAA!!! ;)

[@l3rvn0]

Could you make a comparison between Layer Section 2 running on composite and s-video on the Saturn?

[@alexanderseton]

Although the color palette is brighter and more vibrant on the Saturn, many textures look pixelated or downgraded in comparison to the PS1. Also, the true transparency and 3D effects on PS1 give it a cutting edge. Is the frame rate a bit superior also in the PS1? It’s hard to say. The rest seems fairly comparable. The control pad choice is debatable. I have to say that the PS DualShock is still around after more than 25 years, and that means something

[@isozo-i3v]

I read in a magazine an interview with the development staff that Layer Section 2 challenged the limits of the Saturn. If VDP1 has room, it will be 60FPS, otherwise it will be variable to 30FPS. Polygons are also halved depending on the model. When I acquired this software, which has little distribution, I was fairly impressed.

[@ghaleon128]

I understand why they cut the opening cinematic out of the PS version, since it says "Layer section II" in the movie, but why would they remove the others?

[@RAFAKSBR]

Sugestão pra "VcDecide": comparativo entre Rayden de Jaguar e de Ps1! Comparativo de Rayman de Jaguar vs Ps1/saturn

[@timkasansky2528]

Good Saturn port of a PS1 3D game. Looks similar enough and it's very playable.

[@nelsonjmeloni]

Muitas coisas são diferentes, mas a mais perceptível é a taxa de quadros que caiu muito no sega saturn.

[@Mr.Atari2600]

The Sega Saturn version seems to have a better color palette, I notice some different geometry going on in some of the stage, probably some polygon cut-downs. especially here: 12:15 The PS1 version runs at a better frame rate & doesn't suffer slowdowns, has cleaner visual/particle effects, & better textures.

[@ailaxl]

PS1 wins but it isn’t perfect. More texture warping but it’s for sure smoother and faster than the Saturn version. And of course, Saturn can only really handle transparencies and stuff to a limited degree and only when using VDP 2 which was likely already used for the ground.

[@madson-web]

Layer Section is an awesome game!

[@MrSamPhoenix]

Lots of slowdown on the SEGA Saturn 🪐. The PlayStation seems to have a much easier time processing the game without much issue. Plus, the Saturn version has a top framrate of 60fps, but drops heavily as more things enter the screen. The PSX is 60fps most of not all the time (with transparency effects no less).

[@Chrozi]

What a difference transparency makes

[@richarddean8882]

Nessa o psx ganhou acho que ta com o framerate melhor impressão minha. Os graficos são mais polidos.

[@JohnCharb87]

1. The Saturn controller is made for a game like this. Seems better at movement than the Playstation's segmented d-pad. 2. On the Saturn version the Options menu looks a little more appealing than the small text box on the Playstation. 3. The Playstation does scroll smoother while the Saturn version gets bogged down when a lot of crap is on screen trying to kill you. 4. Differences in boss fights. The second level boss fight on the Saturn stays over the water. While the Playstation version moves the battle over a city scape. 5. Raystorm is a much better name than Layer Selection II. Because you layer your ships or have twice the layers or something.

[@madson-web]

Simply the best d-pad ever

[@CurtindoAqueleDrama]

The PS1 does not have the segmented d-pad on the inside. Gameplay is not affected by this.

[@SpeedyGoneFroglegs]

@@CurtindoAqueleDrama Of course it is, a bad D-pad will hurt during extended use.

[@johncargnin1275]

Consegui ver bem as diferenças entre as duas versões. O vídeo ficou ótimo

[@juarezmiranda]

gouraud shading do Playstation faz muita diferença nas texturas dos jogos manos, bagulho filtra bem manos nos efeito de transparência e afins, tanto que tem muito jogo atual dou exemplo notei esse efeito no Resident Evil 2, 3, 4 e 7, Pal World, A Hat in Time, Nioh 1 e 2 e etc. Mas o Saturn mandou muito bem no jogo, numa CRT acho que um para o outro notaremos só a diferença nas luzes, que no playstataion tem um degrade mais bonito.

[@darksoulsong]

How about a comparison between the original Unreal for PC and the Sega Saturn homebrew Ireéal?

[@costumeninja1914]

Good idea

[@humhum2]

PS 호환기판을 사용한 아케이드 버전의 이식이라 당연히 PS 버전이 더 좋을 수 밖에 없긴한데 새턴 버전도 일부 구간 프레임 드랍, 배경, 반투명 효과 삭제를 제외 하면 나름 훌륭한 이식이라 생각합니다 새턴 버전은 PS 버전에 없는 오리지널 컷씬의 추가로 더 나은 점도 있습니다

[@sanderjuniordossantossande8441]

Dois são jogão 🤩

[@SomeOrangeCat]

The PS1 version definitely has better texture quality, seems to run a bit better too.

[@謝嘉洋-k6s]

SEGA 從MD時代就缺半透明特效 沒想到次世代saturn還是沒搞出來

[@DarioSen]

Amateur forgetfulness... Too bad, these are mistakes that cost the war with Sony

[@demetrius-lima]

impressão minha ou é transparência na tela de menu do saturno?

[@litjellyfish]

Yes? Saturn can do transparency you know? Not just as flexible as PS can

[@fungi6612]

The game was originally developed for PS1 in mind so that's where it plays the best. I still prefer Layer Section on Saturn over any version of RayStorm though.

[@fernandopereira6445]

Cadê o Blast Processing, Sega?

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Left on the Genesis/Megadrive, along with all the popular franchises Sega chose not to bring over to the Saturn.

[@franikator2]

Con qué truco han hecho transparencia en la segunda fase de agua en Saturn. Hay edificios bajo el agua.

[@germantorre1422]

Vdp2

[@m.jordan5181]

Yes, VDP2 seems to have been utilized.

[@dbzeh6837]

I love the SS, but most ppl didn't know how to handle any kind of transparency fx. Here I kinda prefer its colors over the Psx one.

[@7thdragonfly]

Compared to the PlayStation version (the original version), the Saturn version had a slower game speed, but this helped ease the difficulty level, which was too difficult. Also, the Saturn version had music in CDDA format, so I could listen to music on my CD player.

[@litjellyfish]

It’s not slower game speed it’s the framerate that drops now and then slowing the game down

[@pashaxyz9496]

PS1: texturas em melhor resolução Efeitos de transparência que são ausentes no Saturn em algumas situações. Framerate mais suave no console da Sony Saturn: Melhor controle da geração pra jogos do estilo. O Digital do PS1 acho bem ruim pra jogos que precisam de movimentação e agilidade pra ir de uma direçõ pra outra. Pra jogos 2D bidirecional, o direcional do PS1 faz sua função. Não sei se usaram os 2 CPU SH2 e o SCU pra extrair o máximo do console....com ctz daria pra melhorar o framerate, mas efeitos de transparência eu acho difícil acompanhar o PS1, nem em texturas( mesmo com a tremedeira maior do PS1) . Nem o N64 apresentou a qualidade de luz e transparência do nível PS1.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Played through the PSX version this weekend. I forgot how fun and uncomplicated the Shmup genre is.

[@erickrene5600]

aunque la version de sega saturn tiene agregados como poder usar r-gray 0 desde un inicio, cosa que en la version de play station solo la tiene la version US en un modo que desbloqueas 13 ships mode, tambien las cinematicas de la version de saturn, prefieron la version de PS.

[@rodrigoc.teixeira5242]

Complicado de se decidir. Tem coisas melhores em um e outro. Vou dar empate técnico!

[@baronhausenpheffer]

Saturn was a beast of a system when it came to many things, but the poor thing struggled so hard with transparencies. On the basis of PS1 being so much better at that and it featuring so prominently in this game, gotta give the PS1 an easy win here.

[@Red_Panduh]

The Saturn could do transparency, it was just more complicated to do with both vdp 1 and 2 doing 3D layers

[@entertainmentwizard2703]

The Saturn could do great transparency effects but it was harder to program them in!

[@l3rvn0]

We need another comparison with Saturn using a composite cable vs PS1

[@j.c.s7762]

Saturn's 3D abilities are very stupid.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

This was essentially a PS1 game to begin with, as the arcade board is closely based on it.

[@timskamlam1242]

Jogo bonito, as duas versões são belas, não sabia que tinha essas jóias escondia...

[@Lightblue2222]

Ps1 has advantages, but its close enough. Whichever dpad you like better will be the deciding factor.

[@danhectic5629]

saturn EVERY DAY then! PSX d-pad slightly more comfortable than SNES (HATE)

[@VMC_Boy]

I've managed to get the playstation d-pad patterns imprinted in my thumb. I don't know if I press too hard or play too long.

[@caviar_dreamz]

Now days you can use any controller you want on each system. Kinda moot.

[@TheClebersanches]

Nesse jogo os programadores do Saturn se mostraram competentes 🤔

[@GeekGamerGui]

The lighting effects are much better on PS1 thanks to the transparency, but the Saturn version has better 3D rendering (the textures are stable).

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Saturn's textures are also very muddy looking.

[@yasunakaikumi]

actually nope. at all, since saturn texture are mostly made up of square texture it's worst when the texture are shown slanted (you can see that on the first stage boss floors), so it looks like the worst aliasing compare to PS1, PS1 wobbly texture is already a given thing but it's totally much stable than Saturn did in this game.

[@yasunakaikumi]

the Saturn version is definitely a complete version of the game, meanwhile PS1 was straight arcade port without the videos in it. but graphic wise, PS1 win, Saturn had some framerate slow down and also cannot do the transparent is the peak of it.

[@Trako26]

The images on PS1 distort a lot. You can see it well when looking at the road

[@m.jordan5181]

Texture warping

[@Trako26]

@@m.jordan5181 I don't know if I'm wrong, but in general the PS1 has the problem of polygon warping, while the Saturn suffers from texture warping?

[@m.jordan5181]

@Trako26 The phenomenon known as Texture Warping is most commonly seen in 5th generation Playstation games, specifically the polygonal ones. Most of the Playstation's library was comprised of games that used polygons, so it's almost unavoidable. On the other hand, the Saturn generally has issues with displaying "true" transparencies on one of its main graphical processors (the VDP1). The "fake" transparency effect is called dithering. "True" transparencies *can* be found on the Saturn though. It's often dependent on the developer's level of proficiency with utilizing the hardware and/or tools that they had access to.

[@javiiermendes]

Well, Saturn wasn't what it was cracked up to be after all, it had what it needed, unfortunately the developers didn't release their games on Saturn as well. The only thing I never understood about Sega was the way they did color blending with checkerboard. Dreamcast was their only console that handled color impeccably. But Saturn I could do much more.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Didn't help that Sega wasn't forthcoming with the documentation, and pulling stunts like "We're launching the console early, so we're gonna need those games quickly!"

[@user-ichijiku]

セガサターンが移植なら、プレイステーションは完全移植ですかね。プレイステーションのレベルの差が出てしまう比較ですね。

[@Jerryjoe-lh3qc]

Saturn: THe Mesh and de slowdon hurt my eyes he he he.!!!!

[@shaggymcdaniel3216]

I have the Saturn version and absolutely love it. On a CRT of course, where you don’t see mesh transparencies. It’s a really hard game to beat though. Imagine how bad an N64 port would have looked. 🤮

[@gizaha]

- Boss, code is ready - Perfect. Now change some colors and gui text position. Or instead of using the original code that you already have, rewrite and replicate everything by eye. I never understand why they do that, a company that ALREADY has access to the source code. I don't want a mimic of original, i payed to have a clone of original. With cd, space was not a concern and i guess from the developer's side faster is cheaper. So use original code!

[@chfgn]

Amusing that the Saturn’s biggest advantage here, the controller, isn’t pictured. Is that an 8bitdo controller with a clipart joystick pasted on top?

[@RAFAKSBR]

Creio q a versão saturn seja superior: 1- Usa mais elementos 2d na tela, 2- controle superior com seis botões de face, 3- menu mais bonito, 4- animações bonitas de abertura

[@josephfrye7342]

Mhm

[@parazels83]

Also no texture warping on the Saturn.

[@madson-web]

PS1 seems better overall but I don't know, I really enjoy the rawness in the Saturn version. Extremely charming and unique

[@RetroGames4K]

PS1 framerate is better also moves smoother.

[@slashrose3287]

The game has been created targeting PSX arcade board, of course PSX version got the best performance. Also, as shown by SS Castelvania SOTN conversion, the programming team capacities behind every conversion is a crucial choice too...

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@slashrose3287 Nothing is ever the Saturn fault, is it?

[@slashrose3287]

@@SomeOrangeCatFact is, noone knows if its really SS fault (as you clearly imply) or not, almost noone has really pushed that hw in the past. Recent development (btw, solo homebrew work, not top paid teams..) has shown even top class 1998 3D games like Unreal can be ported to the Sega 1994 hw so, again, SS can deliver much more with the right effort.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@slashrose3287 It's like Sony and the PS3. At some point you gotta stop blaming the third party developers for not "getting" the needlessly complicated, poorly documented hardware.

[@slashrose3287]

@@SomeOrangeCatYeah, problem is, $ony actually put top class developers like ND and RatD on PS3, and they delivered big time. Sega didn't (bad management, money problems, etc), so SS actually did NOT have a full "3° generation" games library (of course the fourth generation SS titles did not happen, something which was seen on PSX with excellent tiltes like Wipeout 3, RR4, Tekken 3 and so on). Again, SS has not been fully exploited (Sega management fault of course, something sadly repeated with DC to be fair).

[@giovannimarcelodasilva768]

Eu fico com a versão do Psx de RayStorm, achei ela a mais bonita😍😍😍

[@fer.nando_am9.6]

PS1 may have better fluidity and graphics, but the Saturn seems to offer a lot more elements on screen at the same time, like enemies and shots.

[@amanloop]

PS version is once again less pixelated and has true transparencies and better textures at times.

[@samuelgameplayer3902]

The Saturn + collors. The Play + reallity

[@modollaz8116]

The real transparency on PSX gives it the edge. Texture quality and frame rate not a big difference

[@segat-800]

Much nicer on the PS1. I really hate mesh transparencies.

[@TKYAKOW]

versao do playstation e superior. Ate pelas sombras e pelos detalhes mesmo.

[@djfernandobianchini]

Sega saturno venceu , gráficos e cores muito mais bonitos e nítidos. 🎮🕹️🥇🏆❤

[@ChtiBiscuiT]

*07:35** ps1 winnner !!*

[@Medachod]

Counting emulation, Saturn for sure since you can fix the only issues it has, decrease load times. For original hardware, would still pick Saturn due to the bonus content. But if I was stuck with the PSX version, it would not be a problem.

[@otakuuniteda.s.2882]

Ok! I prefer the Saturn Version. For starters, both systems were never meant to be played in anything higher than 480i. Having said that I am one of the few who prefers to play Saturn with upscaled AV cables coupled with the Mclassic. Using this combination gives the best of both worlds, more vibrant colors, and the CRT look for dithering as it was meant to appear back in the 90s. While not true transparencies, it is difficult to tell them apart, when the Saturn is played this way. Arguably games look for less pixilated as well. Additionally, if you bother to pause the video and do an actual side by side, you will see that the Saturn version has more geometry in areas. Finally, while the texture work appears to be smoother on the PS1, It really boils down to how the games are being played. As the Saturn version is equally detailed.

[@victorlgcarvalho]

Worse transparencies vs bad texture warping... Damn...

[@m.jordan5181]

Yes, both have their own respective flaws

[@renatogois5966]

Nesse jogo um empate e justo a versão do Saturn fico caprichada os caras fizeram até efeitos de transparência na versão Saturn para mim empate técnico.

[@tomaszbrzezinski2398]

You can see that PlayStation has more power

[@すてらえこたん]

ダライアス外伝も比較してくれ

[@canalsenhorpe]

top

[@jakill02]

когда показали водный уровень и подводные лодки и прочие объекты под поверхностью воды, я даже удивился, оказывается Сатурн всё таки умеет работать с прозрачностями.

[@yussafmalik7712]

Sega killed there company by bad decisions. If they supported Saturn and launch next console after a much longer time. People wouldn’t have abandoned them fearing bad support especially with things like 32x support etc

[@teleclic01]

The frame rate of the Saturn version is quite bad, but it was ported by Tose! Taito would definitely have done a better job.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Take the hardware into consideration to. Look at the Taito’s FX-1's specs and then the Playstation's.

[@bawitback]

Sega Saturn

[@Versatil-1980]

Una vez más gana SSEEEGAAA!! ;)

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

wonder if the Sega Saturn version of Layer Section II had used the 1MB RAM expansion if it would have helped it look better

[@raydenedge4569]

El port es de Play a Saturn. Obviamente no va a estar perfecto y va a tener carencias. Proba Soukyugurentai y volvemos a hablar

[@m.jordan5181]

I don't think VCDecide has done a Souky comparison. That game is based on Titan arcade hardware. I've compared both versions on my setup... and yeah 👀

[@Orlando-pn9gl]

Resulta cuanto menos curioso que se vea mucho mejor el primer nivel de la versión de Saturn mientras que el resto de niveles se vea y corra mas fluido en PS1.

[@litjellyfish]

Because it has less polygons

[@cyberngarenfetcher4117]

Sony PlayStation wins!

[@antoniobarcelo733]

Jejejejejeje…No.

[@cristianolvera9259]

Not with that dpad

[@demgutts]

Playstation definitely had better graphics but it was missing a few things that the sega version had

[@ericgrajales6854]

Insert coins

[@Mohammed1000real]

Are you delusional or what?

[@punkbianoretrogamer4314]

Playstation

[@m.i.smithology]

Welp, this is where 3d focused console development paid off, ps wins this one 🤔.

[@Mohammed1000real]

They're both equal except that the Sega Saturn version makes more sense.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

How does it "make more sense?"

[@sf2tsf2t]

Don't try to talk rationally with Sega fanboys. They always have a double standard.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Right. The PS1 version is closer to the arcade, due to the similar hardware, but *somehow* the Sega fanboys are claiming that Saturn version is just "better!"

[@kendallmasterssank369]

Sega Saturn wins!!

[@luckyluke95]

PlayStation wins ! Flawless victory ! Fatality ! 👍👍👍

[@ronaldobernardino8687]

Star Fox 64 vence fácil

[@thomaselers7416]

Sega Saturn wins !!! 😎👌

[@entertainmentwizard2703]

I suspect the Saturn team didn't have as much time to port the game because the Saturn version should easily be superior to the PlayStation version!

[@SomeOrangeCat]

The arcade version is running on a PS1-based board. The Saturn version never had any chance of measuring up.

[@entertainmentwizard2703]

@@SomeOrangeCat Not really, arguably the Saturn's arcade board, Titan is better! The Saturn is also great at doing 2.5D so I don't see why the port could not be better but it probably would have taken a skilled team to pull it off!

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@entertainmentwizard2703 No, I'm telling you that the base game is running on the Taito’s FX-1. Its a PlayStation hardware derivative. It's literally a PlayStation game to begin with.

[@m.jordan5181]

The Playstation had a few Titan arcade hardware conversions done on it. And those were *inferior* by comparison, but that's just how the cookie crumbles sometimes.

[@henryrosariogonzalez7870]

Sega being the king of the arcade and came with this mess up hardware.

[@sistersonic2563]

challenged the limit ! saturn!

[@KaliU-ix2kf]

Not different

[@construpixel1542]

A versão de Saturn é podre demais kkkkkkkkkkk 🤣

[@sofonias6382]

Sega saturno ê bem melhor !

[@marianoyuba3736]

Erm....why's Playstation asking for...coins?

[@m.jordan5181]

This was originally an arcade game

[@Ychigo100]

Saturn wins

[@hiyazaki09]

PsX wins this one colors are brighter, better transparency, saturn my have cut scene but if someone patch the psx and put that thats a Ultima editon

[@Vvewa]

Saturn version is better, he got a higher score

[@m.jordan5181]

Basically, this is a 'reverse ThunderForce V' situation, but only a bit closer than that comparison was. If the Saturn version here was what's being displayed on the right side of the screen, Sony diehards would be talking about how it's missing the game intro, missing the loading screen art, and missing other extras. If you listen to Sony Fanboys (and they know who they are), the Saturn version here is "unplayable garbage" 😄 It's always amusing how their double standards "work"... Anyway, from my usual unbiased P.O.V., neither of these ports are even close to the Arcade version. However, when factoring in how the Arcade version is based on a Taito chipset which happens to be quite similar in design to the retail Playstation (only "beefier"), in actuality this Saturn port shouldn't be anywhere near as close as it is to the ps1 edition. When I initially played the Saturn version all those years ago, I didn't expect it to fare as well as it actually did, solely for the aforementioned reason. It's a good Taito shmup with great music, regardless of which 32bit conversion you choose. Controller being the main deciding factor makes more sense here.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

I've literally seen Sega fans explain away any extra bells and whistles a non-Sega version of a game has, because it wasn't "arcade accurate enough." For this game the arcade original is, for all intents and purposes a PlayStation game, making the PS1 a version nearly 1-to-1 conversion. Yet the Saturn version with all its visual and performance downgrades is still somehow the better version according to the Sega fanboys. So don't come in here moaning about double standards.

[@m.jordan5181]

Case in point... this individual who replied to my assessment first. 👆 As we've often seen... when exposed, all many Sony diehards know how to do is throw up thinly-veiled insults and baseless generalizations. Goal posts are moved and poor attempts at "projection" are made. Always laughable stuff 😄

[@SomeOrangeCat]

​@@m.jordan5181 Don't you have a superior version of SFA to get back to playing? 😏

[@m.jordan5181]

@SomeOrangeCat Hmm... perhaps I do, along with various other games (spanning several different consoles and generations). You, on the other hand, appear to be having serious problems accepting it whenever others express any disagreement with the notion(s) that you support... whether they're able to present proper rationale or not. Whether you choose to run along or stay here and sulk, just don't forget to drink some milk, Cat. You clearly need some. With all the whining you've been doing around here, be careful not to blow a gasket. You're actually good for this fine channel's algorithm. 🙂

[@j.c.s7762]

Saturn Lose!

[@germantorre1422]

I prefer Saturn.

[@sega-re-trop-vieux]

The dithering are so ugly… I hate when programmers don’t try to use the transparency that the Saturn can provide. I know that most of the time it was a lack of time and also it uses the cpu to display those real transparencies ( like burning rangers).

[@SomeOrangeCat]

They were trying to port a PlayStation-native game to the Saturn. Its a miracle it runs as good as it does.

[@sega-re-trop-vieux]

@@SomeOrangeCat i know it. The Saturn has more raw power than the ps1, despite what Sony fans think. We all know how hard it is to create amazing graphics on the 32 bit but with some dedication and a lot of time anything that was available on the ps1 would also be possible on the Saturn. I hope that one day we will get our hands on the Shenmue prototype and it will definitely show the superiority of the sega’s console

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@sega-re-trop-vieux All that power the Saturn had didn't mean squat, because Sega made no effort to teach third parties how to best utilize it. Its why so few games took advantage of all it had to offer. Meanwhile Sony had a simpler, easier to grasp, system design, and actually taught the third parties how to use it.

[@bizarroeddie1]

@@sega-re-trop-vieux Saturn's transparency is the most half-arsed thing ever. It's slow and broken to the point it's useless. This game is detailed and fast, uses dithering and still has some slowdown. They likely could not afford to sacrifice performance to implement a better effect.

[@sega-re-trop-vieux]

@@bizarroeddie1 the slowdowns are the struggle to use efficiently both vdp. No cap, only Sega and lobotomy were able to make amazing 3d graphics without killing the framerate ( virtual fighter 2, Duke Nukem).