Razer Viper V2 Pro Update Review with Size Guide and 4k Dongle Tip

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Still updating the Top Mice list while working on other projects. If you see any mice that are discontinued and need to be removed, please let me know!

[@onefractal]

@Rocket Jump Ninja How is the new pulsefire Haste 2, eagerly waiting for a review from you. Could you suggest a replacement for the viper mini on a budget, was thinking of the haste 2 as the replacement, relaxed claw 18.5/9 cm hands. Thanks a lot.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Haste is pretty big so not really a replacement for the Viper Mini ... Cooler Master MM710 maybe? They'd be cheap these days and they're a very similar shape. I'm not really up to date on current mice so not entirely sure what prices are and all that. Working on Haste 2 review but had an issue with the wireless one so just trying to figure out if it's my PC / set up or something going on with the mouse. I've had a few stutter issues lately in general so might be some software I had to install for one of the mice I'm testing. Will upload the videos when they're done!

[@onefractal]

@@RocketJumpNinja Thanks mate, love the content and thanks for the recommendation. Can confirm the MM710 is cheap now, i think ill go for that. I feel the Viper mini is too small in a way, Any speculation on when the mini V2 or Viper 2 or even DA V3 mini comes out? Cheers.

[@tehutehu451]

@@RocketJumpNinja hey thanks for the review! ive heard there are DPI and latency issues with haste 2, do you also feel that? thanks!

[@fluphybunny930]

Did you ever address the failing of your own mouse ? The fact the cable was pinched then took an immediate 90 degree turn resulting in multiple RMA's. I ask as I recently bought and returned one.

[@RYNSTVNSN]

Not even interested in a new mouse but gotta support the homie Zy

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Appreciate it! I'm just trying to get the videos up for the website, feel bad for letting it go so long. That said, I am getting on top of things now, so feeling good and won't be long before I'm back in full swing with videos and everything 💪

[@RifetOkic]

Sure… but this happens to be the best mouse one can realistically buy (apart from Finalmouse) :)

[@KNDCHV]

I am with the original viper for 3 years already I think. The perfect mouse. It's ambidextrous, doesn't have issues and it's light. What more can you want? Not planning to replace it anytime soon. For once Razer have outdone themselves.

[@joaquimkeloglanian4801]

I missed these mice reviews. Please continue!

[@happymeals9502]

I’m glad RJN is going back and doing reviews of mice released during his writing break.

[@Zez1nas]

For anyone using Razer Viper V2 Pro and struggling with a grip, like the mouse sliding a bit - I really suggest giving the included rubber skin a try and applying it. For me personally it really improved the control feeling of the mice

[@gtyuitr]

Yeah this is exactly why I switched back to my gpx. Even with the grips, I find the mouse feels terrible. Weird because I enjoyed my og viper ultimate

[@BossGamer08]

@@gtyuitr you gotta invest time in that mouse. It’s like the g203. The shape is so weird but oddly so well for games

[@yorgash2193]

@@gtyuitr Viper was always more of a fingertip maybe hybrid claw compared to GPX that can be palm-claw if you want it to. So basically a less safe shape, but it is the perfect (standard size) fingertip and/or possible fingertip - claw mouse. Ofc for strictly claw I can recommend better ones - namely the Logitech Shroud edition G303, that forces you to claw on it.

[@WhatsintheBox-ik9ow]

I put the grip stickers on and it made a huge difference. Very happy with the mouse. I have a vid of it on my channel

[@Zez1nas]

@@WhatsintheBox-ik9ow just recomend you to cut like 5mm from the left side rubber at the back, since in my experiance it brushed into the palm and the corner started to peel off

[@striker7729]

MZ1 arrived 2 days ago, I used to hate small mice because they would make my hand and wrist cramp and even hurt, I also criticized your take on smaller mice being better for aiming but after trying your mouse all I can say is that I'm waiting for your next release, I just love it. Edit: Reading a dude mentioning the Orochi V2 in the comments reminds me of how that mouse makes my wrist hurt after a bit of using it, I gave it months but it still kept happening, I don't know what magic you used on the MZ1 but it doesn't feel uncomfortable at all as small as it is, shape really is king (also literally all mice should have the rails you put on the buttons, absolutely goated) Edit 2: My hands are 18x9 for anyone wondering

[@ghawkins7106]

i got my mz1 around a week ago and my god its gorgeous. I have very odd shaped hands that have never seemed to feel like they "fit" any mouse, but the mz1 is starting to make me think that it is possible. I fully relate to your change of perspective on small mice, and my thought process at least is since my hands are larger than most I would have to use my hand muscles in a weird claw fingertip hybrid just to have enough stability to aim, but since the mz1 compliments a looser grip style it works for more sizes.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

I just made the shape based on what felt good in my hand, and that's after using what, 100 different mouse shapes? I figure I took the best features (for me) from each and then gave it a unique style of its own to bring them all together. Glad it worked out! Really interesting reading people's experiences, if I ever get to design another mouse, I'll keep it all in mind. Thanks for the feedback and glad the shape is working for you!

[@Rhyotion]

Gotta jump on this wagon, I am really pleased with the MZ1, I have played FPS for most of my life, probably about the same amount as Zy, started with UT back in 1998, and haven't stopped. I was using a glorious model O, and was feeling cramped with it, it was getting in the way of some complicated stuff I was trying to do (like rocket jump flick shots, or escape maneuvers), with the MZ1, and some Aimlab to help train myself, I have both increased my accuracy and ease of movement, especially in games where movement technique is intrinsically linked to how you move your mouse (arena titles like Quake). Really great design, and honestly the MZ1 feels more comfortable than the Model O and it's similar designs. My hand can do what it needs to do without the design interfering as much. I used the weight shift on the MZ1, finding that the grooves on the buttons helped with finger aiming, and is almost light and effortless and was revelatory for me (let me geek out). I nearly settled on the V2 Pro, but figured It was time to try something different and am glad I did, as most mice follow the standard formula you see in the Model O, G Pro, and the V2 Pro.

[@danielsgrunge]

The fact that my hands are like EXACTLY the same size as yours is nothing short of a blessing lmao

[@brenthernandez6203]

Thanks to your hand size guide, I found the Razer Orochi V2. It's the best mouse I've ever owned! My aim is also the best it's ever been. Thanks Zy!

[@brenthernandez6203]

@unholydonuts great! Still use it for everything today

[@XSFlanger]

Having played with MZ1, G PRO X Superlight and V2 pro I can definitely say that Viper V2 pro comes out on top. Especially after applying TJ Exclusives cheap and easy to install mod, that reduced its weight further down by 10g, so mouse with original battery is only 48g now.

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

Nice to have you back! Good video

[@danielmori7112]

I wish all mouse reviewers would give their hand dimensions. Great reviews, thanks.

[@A2Zireael]

So nice to put a video in full screen and see that it is 21:9

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Agreed, it's awesome. It's terrible when people fake 21:9 in a 16:9 video, end up getting black bars all around. That said, 16:9 people not watching this in theater mode will get that issue during the Quake Live footage. Imagine if we could have variable aspect ratio videos, wouldn't that be amazing (and probably not possible, would solve these issues though).

[@GodOfWar2321]

I have the razer viper ultimate and decided to try out the v2 pro. It as disappointing, at least for me. Performance wise the v2 and ultimate performed the same. The only improvement is that the v2 has better grip as someone with sweaty hands. I don't think it's worth $162 I spent considering the only improvement for me being the grip. Don't get me wrong it's still a good especially if you're coming from something entirely different.

[@Jay-rd6fe]

bought my viper ultimate bcus of u and probebly buy this one now that my viper ultimate is pretty worn down for me the vipers ahve ben the most comfertable mice and i used to break them every 6 months my ultimate has been here for quite while

[@vinnymarkis7075]

Thanks that’s exactly the review that convince me

[@tyler2jin]

Will there be a review of Razer Viper V3? In my opinion, it is more convenient than Viper V2.

[@Dizzyfatpigeon]

Do you no longer reccomend the Starlight 12 purely due to availability or does the ViperV2 mouse also offer something over that? what are your thoughts on the ULX so far?

[@horvisnone4997]

Like this gaming mouse looks good. Its price also corresponds to this, which is much higher than I think. But I wonder how it is with accuracy and aiming in shooters? And how are headshots distributed with her? What about its longevity and quality? So far I'm using this gaming mouse: Hama uRage Reaper neo sensitivity 3200 DPI

[@Darth_CeeZeR]

I ordered 2 white versions and the dongle died within 3 minutes of use. Garbage QC so i ended up with g pro x superlight.

[@Verition]

Would love your (re)view on analog keyboards

[@gh0stwithskin]

love the content

[@sighheinrich]

Yo guys I bought a Xtrfy MZ1 in white. It creaks and crackles and makes a lot of noise, feels almost like there's a constant feed of those KZbin chiropractors cracking bones constantly while I'm using this pointing device. Does any or you know how to fix it, or is it just ment to be so bad?

[@DadIsntMad]

I know you do mouse reviews bit I’d be interested in your opinion on Wooting Keyboards

[@LouisVBelt]

bro make a video on the viper mini Se please, love your reviews

[@sirsiver]

Hi Zy! Thanks to your amazing guides i bought a razer viper mini years ago (i'm fingertip grip with hand size 18cm x 9.3/9.5cm), i was thinking to step up the game with a wireless mouse and the v2 pro seems really nice. Do you think that it can be a fine upgrade for the 140 Euro price tag? Thank you again for all you do!

[@aleksandrmikhailov3255]

Won't be much of a difference

[@TheWatchman1893]

Ive got the ultimate, really interested in this vs your own MZ1 wireless

[@sherjeelahmed1268]

Hello! Been watching a lot of your videos lately, I have fairly large hands but wanted to try the G203 Lightsync, been almost 1.5 years with the mouse and I have gotten used to the smaller shape however I recently used the deathadder essential at a friends house and I honestly felt more comfortable holding a bigger mouse. Now my budget isn't much and using your mouse 'calculator', the deathadder V2 could be the one for me, would you recommend that mouse or something else? Keeping the price at the same range however. Hope you reply and I can end my dilemma haha! THANKS!

[@yorgash2193]

I can personally testify that the Deathadder V3 Pro is worth recommending for larger hands, but the V2... might be for you, but the difference between the two is huge. It's like one is a professional mouse made almost perfect for those who prefer that size/shape combination, while the other is a legacy from a time when gaming mice were more a gimmick than anything. Of course the DA had its basics laid down pretty well, but I feel like it only ever became a competitve mouse in the V3 version. I'd recommend looking for one second hand instead of buying a new V2.

[@2ez4cheez33]

Just got the viper v2 pro white and its amazing. I was using Logitech's G903 till now and that was quite underrated aswell.

[@davidsmith9267]

nah it was rated well its a brick, should stay underrated.

[@2ez4cheez33]

@@davidsmith9267 Weight isnt everything, its design is amazing and the battery life is almost a month, its heavier than normal mice of 2023 at around 100gms and has the same sensor as gpw/gpx.

[@davidsmith9267]

@georgexander7170 claw grip then or do a claw palm hybrid

[@davidsmith9267]

@georgexander7170 dude wdym 110 grams isn't heavy lmao

[@unearthlynarratives_]

@georgexander7170 It's a very noticeable difference between 60g and 110g. Try playing on a very low sense where you have to flick for hours and then come back and let me know how great flicking around a 110g mouse is compared to a 60g mouse.

[@Alexandra-Rex]

Very nice to not wear out the top and bottom of my monitor :P Very cinematic.

[@DJJewton]

Razer viper mini signature edition when 👀

[@NoVeMgoRe]

I hate to rant but as a left handed gamer looking for a potential upgrade path or better and updated version for the viper, i really, really hate the trend of how every one of the very few good ambi mice are all now now solely going right hand biased on their next iterations and updates and completely ditching the true ambi part without even a version on offer that has the side buttons on the right. The Viper had the second best shape by far for my hand after the older, now much too outdated Mionix Avior7000 (which really had to be modded as it was way too heavy at stock). GproW (expensive but good quality) and the Zowie FK's (simple but solid) sadly really weren't comfy and efficient shapes for me. Leaving only the Sensei (yuck) as the only other "valid" other option, at least on paper, that i know about in the running... and frankly i'd rather ungrave and stitch up an undead Frankenvior before settling down on a Sensei or straight downgrading to something worse than the Avior7k like a Corsair M55. It's very discouraging looking for a new mouse and not even being able to scrape up 5 mice that are true ambi and somewhat well made and current and not from like almost a decade ago.

[@cadmusvictory4956]

Love the updated pro version of the viper. Only didnt like the coating its abit too rough for my delicate palm. Side buttons felt better than the original and the weight balance was noticible upgrade from the original. Only thing sad is the colours were too plain for my liking. Would prefer if the mouse had better colour schemes

[@ads99nrg]

In my country the mouse does not come with the 4k dongle in the box. If I have to get it separately, do I have to get a Razer branded one, or can I get one from a different brand (eg Lamzu)?

[@GiLLyMGL]

I’ve got no idea why there is no Pulsar X2 and Xlite review? Do you hate the company or something? cus they are legit and we need your take on it

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Because I'm not magic and these things take time 😅 doing Lamzu, HyperX and others next, then will try to get to Pulsar.

[@ViolenVaymire]

I'd love for you to review Mmo mice! They tend to be way to form over function. I feel as tho there no were near as refined as shooter mice. The name is a bit of a misnomer, MMo mice can be used for alo't of things very effectively, For instance I predominantly use mine in a Moba(callout's bound to the 12 thumb buttons) They also could be used to great effect in a "doom" like shooter were you could switch to everyweapon without ever taking your hand of the movement keys.

[@simptrix007]

TBH I prefer this coating compared to DAv3 Faker edition for my sweaty hands.

[@Batatatica]

Hey Zy, are your mouse getting updated anytime soon? Also good to see you posting more frequently.

[@ChrisKadaver]

I need to upgrade from my viper mini. Ordered the Xtrfy M8. Havent got it yet though. Any idea when razer will release a Viper Mini 2 pro wireless? Also got thr Xtrfy M42 non wireless but I prefer the shape of the Viper Mini. But also prefer the build quality of the xtrfy M42.

[@cosmincatalin2800]

@Rocket Jump Ninja: what mousepads do you recommend for MZ1 ? I have Razer Acari and is skipping when moving very very slow.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Try change the lift off distance? Check manual for how! And if that doesn't work, I have a pad too, control pad, GPZ1 from Xtrfy

[@cosmincatalin2800]

@@RocketJumpNinja The irony is my table using laminated chipboard is much better and smoother than Razer Acari mousepad.Someone should build a dedicated hardmat with melamine fibreboard.

[@HopemanGG]

You know, I always kind of disagreed a little with your assessment of "safe shape". Wide flares towards the front (and possibly towards the top as well) and certain thumb button placements force the user into a certain grip for no reason. There is no advantage, except making the mice worse for people with super long thumbs and the preference of gripping the mouse further at the front for more precision (gripping further at the front + having a low grip width is key imo). Aside from that, mice with thumb buttons are never ambidextrous, yet they are still marketed this way.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Safe shape just means it doesn't force your grip, doesn't necessarily mean better.

[@worstenbroodje6832]

I'm looking to replace my Viper Mini that I've been using for about 3 years but it looks like the Mini has been discontinued because I can't find it for a reasonable price anymore. I'm going to try the Viper V2 Pro with the hope it isn't too large for me because it looks solid.

[@Atoximed]

How did it turn out? Im using a normal viper and looking for an upgrade. Either this or the ultimate probably.

[@worstenbroodje6832]

@@Atoximed I didn't end up getting one because I found a great deal on another Viper Mini. So I just replaced my old Mini with a new one. But I'd personally pick the V2 Pro over the ultimate because of the weight and because I don't like the rubber on the sides of the Ultimate.

[@dragosdrb]

Any chance for a review on the new Cobra Pro Wireless?

[@m4gnum203]

im looking for a wireless gaming mouse for around $50 on sale. I was thinking of getting the viper ultimate. Any reason to get a different mouse for around $50?

[@jacquesblack3080]

I have a question about the dongle: Is there a performance dongle between the 4k and the normal dongle if you use 1000hz polling rate? Do you have any idea? My Laptop ain't taking the summer heat so well so I switched to 1k from 2k. I had trouble setting up my 4k dongle when I got it. I play on an open laptop with an external monitor so at some point I got the idea to use the touchpad😂. Almost sent it back because I assumed it was broken.

[@yorgash2193]

Normal dongle is 1000Hz. You only really need 4K for a very competitive scenario, and probably even then it's not gonna decide anything even assuming 2 of the same person with the same guns and health face each other at the exact same timing; difference between 1ms and 0.25ms is 0.75ms which is basically lost between the other 80-100ms of variables that you simply can't helped, measured or fixed constant. Heck, even the timing you choose to power up your PC / fire up a game will probably have more of a difference than that :)

[@TheMirzaProduction]

We'd like your thoughts on pulsar x2 and the mini!

[@mertcobain138]

hey zy, i'm very confused about keyboard. Which do you think would you choose k70 low profile or g915 or k70 tkl optical switch?

[@tyclemons161]

Hyperx keyboards feel great. Aqua switches

[@Splarkszter]

i have a first generation viper mini, and the ONLY problem i have is that when using the scroll-wheel it jumps, the sensor of the scroll wheel doesn't know what direction is going if i spin it too fast, it has been happening since i bought it but for now i haven't bothered in returning it, i probably should, it's still on warranty.

[@dissgusting]

my warranty sticker has a little crease in it, any advice on should i try and smooth it out somehow? thanks!

[@Rosilelilele]

Hey man, will you review the new hyperx pulsefire haste 2 wireless?

[@MrParker700]

Please make more mouse reviews. Xm2we next

[@TheThirdeYe1337]

I love my Viper V2 and I got the 4k dongle, but I still have issues at anything above 2k with major slowdown and laggy movement while gaming even on a high end pc.

[@Makaveli6103]

I got rid of my deathadder v3 and dongle because of this. Went with a Pulsar X2 and love it.

[@yorgash2193]

I have the 4K dongle too, didn't notice that, but I swapped back to normal just to increase mouse battery time. Altough I have arguably top of the top PC (13900KS, 2x32GB 7200 DDR5 and a 4090, before that 12900KS with 3090 Ti).

[@EmoEmu]

Useless to me after they removed the ambidex buttons. Oh well. Viper Ultimate is still the best they've made that I can use.

[@comkioxd]

How do you feel about boardzy rating the MZ1 as B tier?

[@RocketJumpNinja]

People can have their opinions. It's being left behind weight wise and stuff, but it's still the mouse I'm going to choose to use because for me, the shape is by far the best and that more than makes up for the weight difference. Would love to see a pro version with no holes, no RGB and much lower weight. 4k polling rate is a gimmick, not worth it. Same deal with the newer sensors, really not a big deal or something we'll notice in game. So that's all I'd be caring about. It's still S tier for me though, aim is still clearly best with it and that's what matters most when it comes to competitive FPS!

[@SuperSkandale]

what type of build material is it? Is it PBT ?

[@notegmd6176]

wich one is better the hyperx pulseefire haste 2 or viper v2 ?????

[@ahmedchaudhry8402]

Please answer this, will this mouse work on ps5??

[@louie2]

have you tried the gwolves htx?

[@Tellotv]

Its so annoying that the hump is so low on this mouse!!

[@doomed_to_fail]

Had the mouse for roughly 6 months now. Here is my short opinion: Pros: - Mouse is slippery without the grips. - Grips that come with the mouse are good. - All buttons have a very consistent and tactile feeling. - Optical switches which are rated for significantly more clicks than a mechanical switch. - Side buttons are high quality, good tactile feeling. - On board memory - download razer, configure, uninstall, keep your setting stored on the mouse. - Safe shape, good for palm grip and relatively forgiving with different grip styles. Cons: - Very poor scroll wheel and encoder - lots of noise when scrolling and it can jump if you place the scroll wheel in between two steps... not good. - M1, M2 clicks can be very loud. - M5 button has slightly loosened over my time with the mouse. - Overall build quality is rather poor. Mouse wheel and encoder is by far the worst I have ever used across any mouse. Currently I am thinking about returning the product but I am reluctant as the shape is really good for me. I might look into modding it - changing wheel encoder and other things. Overall, the mouse is good out of the box but I would definitely suggest modding it if you can. The internals of the viper v2 pro are also pretty good, so if you're into modding mice and customization, I would take the time to modify it. In saying that I have not modified it yet, though I am planning to modify it. I would opt to use the g-pro wireless, and if I could I would probably change to that.

[@yorgash2193]

I've had the mouse since release. Had not too much to risk, I always loved the Viper, and they did exactly as I would have asked them: removed right side buttons, made the left side better, made it lighter and wireless. I'd advise you try and RMA it. Mine has 0 issues (aside from the click sound you mentioned; it's about as loud as normal, but I didn't really care about its noise, the feeling was just right, that's more important to me). I gave Hell to side buttons (and scroll too, jumping and move forward for strafes in Apex), and also the M3 with pings. I have 0 issues of them feeling even slightly off, and I'm pretty sensitive to that. I'd imagine mine can't be the only one put well together, so definitely worth a try to get a new one if eligible.

[@devarshsuthar7943]

Between V2 pro and DAV3, which one do you recommend?

[@dddripz]

balls in nuts

[@Sprblue7]

Anyone have issues with either of the clicks on the mz1 after switching the top shell out? I know it comes with some sort of sticker thing in the box but I don't know what it is. I'm assuming it fixes the clicks but I'm not sure how to install it properly.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

So you switched the buttons too? Are you sure they're in properly? I've changed the shells heaps on a couple of copies and seems fine, but at times I have been like "wait, that's not in". Try re-setting the shells? As in, take them off and put them back on. I think I showed how I did it in the MZ1 colours video, so maybe watch that to see if you're applying it the same way?

[@Sprblue7]

@@RocketJumpNinja I’ll try to find an older video. I reinstalled them 3 times to make sure they were aligned correctly. I haven’t actually changed the switches just the top shell. And for some reason only the right click feels weird. It almost feels likes it’s harder to click and the click noise is off

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Hmm ok, does it look aligned? If you view the mouse from the front, are they different heights?

[@Sprblue7]

@@RocketJumpNinja I’ll check when I get the chance

[@shark3D]

love this mouse, but the optical switches are only for left and right click, and now the middle click on this mouse double clicks CONSTANTLY and has become unusable for 3d work / maya (my job)

[@shark3D]

@georgexander7170 well, my middle click doesnt, but that's a 1 of 1 case... also opened it up and the middle click uses a different microswitch not sure if it's also optical but I assume it's normal

[@skyltdockan]

Does the use of 2 vs 3 finger grip effect mouse choice?

[@yorgash2193]

Frankly it should. I imagine 3 finger usually means fingertip even with mice as light as they currently are.

[@erickchen2405]

the cooler master mm712???

[@PixelDolphin]

The only good Razer mouse I've had was the Deathadder 4G. I've tried two vipers. The build quality was terible on both. Squeeky plastic and friction on clicking that you shoulnd't expect for something priced that high.

[@ViolenVaymire]

Razer specializes in cheap products. Some the best bang for your buck with alot of there item's, But yah, Makes them ill suited in making "top of the line" things.

[@Hugobcs]

My lord I can connect my viper v2 pro... dont know how to paIR.

[@SkywardFR]

this mouse is specifically made to put and easly replace rubber grip tapes, yet razer do not sell pre-cut grip tapes for the V2 Pro, I don't get it Fortunately Corepad is here

[@yorgash2193]

Well it does come with a pair, but I imagine Razer is just as aware as the rest of us that most people would buy Corepad and similar anyways .

[@SkywardFR]

@@yorgash2193 not everyone know that corepad sell grip tapes (nor know about them) also for trying them I can say that the Razer originals last much longer

[@yorgash2193]

@@SkywardFR I might give mint a try too.

[@Basn]

I liked the razer mices but their software got out of hand

[@yorgash2193]

Yeah, that one I agree with. Something just feels dirty about having a software for setting the mouse up (Synapse) that somehow always ends up installing 2-3 packs I never need and requires internet connection and login to be able to do shit. Even worse than Logitech. Razer's Cortex / Synapse / whatever is currently a huge bloatware bordering malware. I always end up deleting it after setting up my mouse.

[@beegeev]

so on your top mice list this is currently number 1 but you said in this video that you put this under g pro x superlight so which is the currently number 1 on your top mice list?

[@RocketJumpNinja]

I put the Viper Ultimate under the G Pro X because of weight. I've always preferred the shape of the Viper, so now that the Viper V2 Pro has lower weight too, it gets the top spot.

[@David_Logr]

their mice are good, but I refuse to buy any of them because of the utterly attrocious Razer Synapse bloatware

[@StefKRah]

How could i ever trust razer enough to buy such a pricy mouse when my razer viper's mouse scroll wheel went bad after 1 year and the scroll wheel of the 8khz version they sent me as replacement had the same problem after 2 months, and now im stuck with a 2nd replacement that gets disconnected when moving mouse too fast and when i start pc i have to unplug it and plug it back in like 3 times. Holy moly guys i thought logitech having click problems after 2 years of usage was a problem but razer beat them all. Imagine you pay for a superior version, a max performance one, and it still has that shitty scroll wheel or some other bullshit wtf is this quality standard these days?

[@slash1one]

great mouse if only it didnt come with a broken dongle basically making it a wired mouse lol.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

If it's broken, contact support/try to get a replacement!

[@roymustang8483]

The mouse itself is really good, but the dongle... thats other story, two times replacing the dongle and its again not working, i do NOT recomend it, its just garbage.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

What's actually going wrong with it? I've had this one for ages, haven't had an issue. And can just get the 4k dongle if you want.

[@Chuha97]

@@RocketJumpNinja I've had a broken dongle within 3-4 months. RMA-ed it and then got a brand new v2 pro. But PC doesn't even detect the dongle

[@frostborn666]

Can I get more apex legends videos ;)

[@e_ighth]

this aint no cinema pal, please go back to normal aspect ratio

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Yeah I was a bit worried about that ... I've switched to ultrawide so these videos are perfect for my screen, and someone said that these work really well in theater mode on KZbin 16:9, so I was hoping it'd work for both ratios? Is theater mode no good for you or you want full screen on 16:9?

[@e_ighth]

@@RocketJumpNinja yeah i'm 16:9 full screen viewer. real advice would be to use linus tech tips aspect ratio. thats the example because i watched an ltt video right after this one and thought "damn his black bars are literally double the size of these ones". so what i'm saying is feel to use wider aspect ratios, it's just that this current one has way too big black bars

[@Zez1nas]

@@RocketJumpNinja Can confirm that on 16:10 laptop screen in theater mode this looks way better then 16:9 content which gets black bars, and also this current aspect ratio looks better on phones with 21:9 screens, but probably not so much for the 16:9 fullscreen users

[@devarshsuthar7943]

??

[@jorrell279]

Still overpriced as hell.

[@ezioauditore1588]

You know there is used market where you have deals for 40-100 eur:)

[@abhijithmukundan8002]

Same price as other high end mice here actually cheaper, most times on sale and don't have to pay extra price for shipping too, if this fits the gripstyle best mouse tbh.

[@johndoe-qo8cy]

Never had a good experience with any Razer product.

[@MrSathiroth]

Wow, Rocket Jump Ninja! We've missed you so much. Your absence was truly felt in the gaming community. Your in-depth and unbiased reviews have always been a gold standard. Glad to see you back. Eagerly awaiting your next in-depth mouse review. Keep rocking! 👏🎮🖱

[@RocketJumpNinja]

🥰 Thanks! Good to be back!