RC - Leaf Springs vs. Multi-Link Suspension - Pros and Cons - RC4WD TF2 SWB - Axial SCX10

I've had a few questions regarding the "stiff suspension" on my RC4WD TF2 SWB rig, so I thought I'd throw out a quick comparison vid between a leaf sprung suspension and a linked suspension.
With a leaf sprung rig, you will be throwing a tire in the air a lot of the time, which means instead of four tires biting on the rocks or dirt, now you're working with only three . With the linked rig, most of the time over average to slightly difficult terrain you will have all four tires on the ground biting and clawing their way through most anything you can find.
Personally, I prefer the challenge that a leaf sprung rig poses. With a leaf sprung rig you have to choose your lines wisely and you have very little safety net should you choose incorrectly due to the limits in suspension travel. To me, this type of set up is more akin to how a mostly stock 1:1 rig would react, and I enjoy watching the struggles of the rig as it tries to navigate the rocky terrain.
Now on to the linked rig... A linked rig is much more forgiving. A linked rig will act more like a highly modified, purpose built 1:1 trail/crawler rig. With a linked rig you can move about with a little more freedom and don't have to be so selective in the lines you take as the suspension travel/flex will keep you planted and get you out of most situations.
Both types of suspensions are fun in their own way. To be honest it really depends on your driving style and how much patience you have. Less patience....go linked. More patience....give leaf springs a try.
Rigs used in vid:
-RC4WD TF2 SWB - Tamiya Jeep YJ body
-Axial SCX10 Trail Honcho
Tires:
RC4WD 1.55 Mud Slingers - Jeep
Duratrax 1.9 Deep Woods CR - Honcho
I hope you enjoy the vid!

[@richardkautz2947]

Long live the leaf spring suspension ! 👍

[@midliferc1165]

Bro! Top notch side by side video!!!! Anybody wondering how different these 2 rigs are just needs to watch this👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@2krcbackroads421]

Killer comment...thanks Man, REALLY appreciate that!! All the best!

[@johngisbourne7197]

top explained, top notch mate!

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thanks! Really appreciate it!

[@satorrotas]

Excellent run and crawling !! Very good video !!

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thanks Pascal! Appreciate it my friend!

[@jahmenrcbuildingasone4254]

This was a joy to watch nice explanations nothing was rushed very clear. Thank you for your time. I've went ahead and subbed to your channel. I was directed your way by 2RCProductions. Nicely built Jeep great crawl✌

[@2krcbackroads421]

What a great comment, thanks! Rich over a 2RC is a good guy. Thanks for stopping by.....and thanks for the sub!

[@jamurphy8386]

Looks GREAT! You're right. Leafs (at least in the rear), is like a lot of 1:1 Rigs.... They look fantastic, drives, and has limitations like, the real thing! So they make a great Sim Exercise, should you be inclined to take a real Rig on the rocks. OR ~ if you CAN'T go crawling, for whatever reason, you can have a very Scale Like run in 1/10th Scale! However, a high performance 1:1 Rig - WILL probably have long coilovers and a 4-link suspension. It won't be stock, or even near stock, BUT, the 4-Linked RC Rigs DO actually represent their real counterparts. Just at a budget that few can afford in full scale!! 😁 👍 👍 With that - Man! You've REALLY got that TF2 DIALED!! Very impressive. Murph

[@2krcbackroads421]

Murph, I agree with all that you said. A scale run in 1/10 is exactly why I like this hobby! To be honest, we are very lucky to have such high quality rigs available...the hobby has come so far in the last 20 years. Thanks for such a great comment...hearing from people such as yourself make this hobby and KZbin channel all worth it! All the best to you! - TK

[@jamurphy8386]

TK, I agree with you! The evolution of this Hobby over the past 15-20 years is what got my best friend back in, then me. In the 80's and 90's, we raced locally and Bashed everywhere! What we had, were pretty good for the time...... but my friend, Carmine, called our Truggies - MOON BUGGIES!!! 😲 With their Gawdawful bodies, and tires sitting about 2 scale feet BESIDE the fenders, I saw his point. There was very little lighting, and almost no interiors - not even Drivers 90% of the time. 😕 So, absolutely! R/C today has definitely caused both of us to fall back in love with this Hobby! I believe it's more fun today than it ever was. Murph

[@pbtvproduktionen]

Cool run, beautiful car and nice video!

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thank you very much!!

[@caljader3388]

Very cool rig , nice vid, thanks!🤓✌️👍

[@BudgetGuyrc1967]

grat comparison my friend have fun RCing

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thanks Man! Appreciate the comment!

[@MRBRUSHLESS]

Awesome video very nice comparison great job thumbs up

[@2krcbackroads421]

Appreciate it Man! Thanks for having a look!

[@poppysrcandmodels]

That is some cool info TK! I'd say with my driving style I better stick with links, lol. But that leaf spring set up is awesome! Great video!😉👍

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thanks so much Jeff, appreciate it Man! Can't go wrong with a link set up.... Thanks for stoppin' by!

[@RcNickster709]

I totally get it man.. as a guy who has 3 Scx10 link rigs , Wroncho and an ax10 crawler I try to do what a leaf rig does. it looks good, but its not true flex. i guess i go after performance a little more than scale. thanks for sharing bud and that is a great looking. Thanks for sharing brother.. 👍😊

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thanks Nick!! I love running my SCX10's too! The drive with the two different suspension setups is so different...for me it kinda depends on the mood I'm in. All the best to you up in the NE part of the Country! Thanks for stoppy by!

[@taylorstrickland388]

I have a land cruiser with a lift that I can put the tire 3 1/2 feet in the air with the other three on the ground and it is leaf sprung. Leaf springs work just fine as far as travel. I'm not trying to argue I'm just saying that leaf springs can travel

[@2krcbackroads421]

That is some serious travel...and I agree with you. You can get some serious flex from modified leaf sprung rigs. This was just a quick vid showing what you get with a typical "stock" leaf sprung RC rig and how it flexes similar to a stock 1:1 rig. I think with a multi-link rig sometimes you get too much travel....

[@RcAVENTURE.V.F.R]

Very good suspension working, thank you very much for sharing, greetings colleague from paris france big thumbs up brother #6

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thank you so much! From Seattle to Paris...all the best to you!

[@RC.Time-Crawlers]

Great job like the demonstration

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thanks much....and thanks for stopping by the channel!

[@jmylawson]

Nice flexing with the leads and the honcho. Great video.

[@jmylawson]

With the leafs...dam autocorrect

[@2krcbackroads421]

Ha ha ha...I knew what you meant.

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thank you! Thanks for stopping by, appreciate it!

[@rcexperiencebyanthony.d7468]

great video my friend! I absolutely love the height of this rig!! very sexy suspension!! lol...I couldn't help hear the crows in the background...they seem to be everywhere!! here too! thumbs up from me! ✌️✌️

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thanks Anthony! Yeah, those crows...ha ha. Right as I started filming the crows, dog and airplanes decided to all come at once...ha ha. Thanks for stopping by the channel my friend...All the best!

[@rcjan5690]

I learned something to day...thanks for sharing...the trucks looks awesome and aspecially the Jeeps colour..

[@2krcbackroads421]

That's awesome! Appreciate the comment...glad you liked it!

[@RCVHX22]

Very nice work, Looks beast bro is a ripper, Awesome video very cool great job i dropped a like button Thank you for sharing it with us✌ツ👍

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thanks much Man!! Cool comment...thanks for tuning in!

[@story33392]

Nice video! Thumbs up!

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thank you very much! Appreciate it!

[@tgreenm]

Cool, very. Interesting info. :-D I subbed.

[@2krcbackroads421]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for tuning in...and thanks for the sub!

[@RCTeamAustria]

thanks for sharing

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thanks for having a look!

[@rcdabbler]

I've never run a leaf sprung vehicle, either 1:1 or 1:10, but after watching the Jeep, the Honcho's performance seemed less realistic than what I'd expect to see from a pickup truck. RC4WD makes a leaf spring conversion kit for the Gelande II chassis, and I've been wondering if I'd enjoy the Cruiser more as a more scale-accurate, leaf sprung rig. Definitely got me thinking. 👍🏼

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thinking is trouble in this hobby John...as it usually costs you big $...ha ha. Seriously though, if you have patience and like a challenge, a leaf sprung rig is a blast. You are somewhat limited in total climbing capability when compared to a linked rig...but that would be climbing steep comp type stuff only. Decisions, decisions. Thanks for stopping by and for the comment!

[@rcdabbler]

2KRCBACKROADS Oh, man, you stated some truth! Hahaha... Yeah, I'm in no hurry, and most likely I'll hold off, because I might eventually get a TF2, which would satisfy any leaf spring interests. Peace.

[@TheBackpackcountry]

As a guy who runs 1:1 fullsize f150 I see them as an entry level trophy truck sort of class. they are what I would run Ideally, but certainly do run significantly different than a true pickup setup. I think they don't anticipate most people really wanting True to scale feeling, but want more ease of driving. That being said I wish Axial made a leaf spring conversion kit for them. Maybe complete with another bit you could buy to make undersprung springs on the axles and long travel droop. that would be really cool.

[@rcjoe406]

I luv my trx4 sport belly dragger but this looks different and fun

[@realonethreesevens3640]

Currently running a front 4 linked Cherokee with leafs in the back like the 1:1, I love the differennt dynamic that the combination has. Do you have any experience with a mix of both?

[@JSparrowist]

What ESC and motor are you running? That thing is super smooth!!

Absolut great Video 🔝✌️ this is a very good comparison and one can recognize the differences of the two chassis very well.........thumbs up 🔝🔝👍👍

[@2krcbackroads421]

Awesome comment, thanks! Fun little vid....I'm glad you liked it, thanks for stopping by!

[@JCRC]

More realistic to a stock 1:1 that mine will ever be hahah :)

[@2krcbackroads421]

Your rig is a BEAST. All your rigs are...ha ha. Thanks for having a look Joe, appreciate it!

[@JCRC]

and thank YOU for sharing :) :)

[@kazacorpora]

nice trail

[@2krcbackroads421]

Thank you!

[@jarrodbreuer597]

Now I wonder if someone is modeling a short arm lift kit vs the longish arm kits that are on most Models?

[@ka4172]

And leaf springs dont "torque twist" like a linked.

[@2krcbackroads421]

True. Thanks for checking out the channel!

[@joshstringer8181]

ka4172 they do on real rigs but torque twist on real rigs is different in the rc world

[@chrisischannel]

What esc and motor is in the Jeep ?

[@Corbin-it1yc]

Its realistic yeah but i like to have a lot of suspension flex. On my axial scx10 i have 120 mm shocks on it so it does pretty good

[@2krcbackroads421]

The SCX10 does have a ton of flex. I prefer a more scale look most of the time...but like you, I like to run with max flex as well. It just kinda depends on my mood that particular day. Thanks for stopping by the channel and leaving a comment!

[@theweekenddrz519]

Does any one produce a CJ grill for this body?

[@2krcbackroads421]

Not anything mainstream that I know of. A CJ body or at least a grill would be cool. I would think a custom 3D printed grill has to be swimming around ebay somewhere.... Thanks for stopping the by the channel!

[@sweetvalleyrc]

Nice jeep.subed ya.i have a swb tf2 I did with a tj body.check it out on my channel .

[@2krcbackroads421]

Glad you liked it. The TF2 SWB is a fun rig! I'll check out your channel for sure.....thanks for dropping by!

[@mgoo1713]

Flex? You mean articulation...flex is when the chassis actually twists...chassis flex is what cracks the front windshield....

[@2krcbackroads421]

I do mean flex...suspension flex (like in 1:1 RTI scoring)....also called axle articulation. Thanks for checking out the channel!

[@bryanmayes9234]

Yeah chassis flex is a thing as suspension flex is also a thing.