RDR2 | The Iron Cloud Mystery

[@wellyunnoso3087]

Really wished Ambarino had a town up in the Grizzlies, Ewing Basin could’ve easily been one, the path from there to Big Valley isn’t that treacherous after all.

[@vnlbrand]

i knew i wasnt the only one disappointed when i went up to colter to find its abandoned. (i didnt properly start the story)

[@anton2417]

@@vnlbrand yeah colter is disappointing.

[@Nerderkips]

wdym " i didnt properly start the story"@@vnlbrand

[@vnlbrand]

i mostly played in multiplayer at first before even doing the story so i'd just explore the map not knowing what some locations were for @@Nerderkips

[@StuartLugsden]

I wish we could go behind the scenes and see how Rockstar makes their games.

[@BasementGamerBros]

I still hope for the art book, but know it will never come. I think the accidental artwork leak from Daren Bader is the most we'll ever see.

[@StuartLugsden]

@@BasementGamerBros I also want to see when stuff from beta gets removed.

[@retrosrobloxreviews9564]

@@StuartLugsden Imagine if someone did something similar to the HL2 beta leak in 2003, where the guy literally hacked into valve studios and leaked the beta of the game. (Disclaimer: I am not encouraging any such thing, I am just hypothetically making a reference to something similar that happened.)

[@themadtitan7603]

@@BasementGamerBros Hey, love your videos but I have a question: on the beta hunt in GTA Forums a cut mission was found where Charles and Arthur would've disguised in military attire to free a bunch of Indians from a reformed school or military camp and I was thinking what those were originally located on the beta location of Iron Cloud and is that theory plausible or does it not make sense at all with the location's geography.

[@hyperborean.]

Iron Cloud, to me sounds like what native Indian would call a UFO landing site.

[@MoldycheeseJr]

You’re right

[@MoldycheeseJr]

@Paulo Hernanndizz honestly, I believe that iron cloud was gonna be a location where you could see a UFO

[@combatbowl1]

As a Native American, Iron Cloud sounds like a name a chief would have.

[@chingachonga2633]

Native Indian? Mf talkin like we still in 1887 lmao

[@hontherun3495]

Exploring beyond rdr2 is one of my favourite parts of this channel

[@Maxistanca]

The reason why I follow him

[@Wusyuwu]

@@Maxistanca same

[@007Sign]

The iron cloud concept art looks a lot like an area I found just outside the map in tempest rim directly above and between chez porter and the uppermost area of whinyard strait. It has an oddly flat/clear area surrounded by boulders and rock walls. I’ve always thought there was supposed to be a camp there. It also could be that odd dead end canyon area northwest of cattail pond.

[@boogie2025]

I’m responding 2 years later but that flat area was originally the location of colter

[@roccobucko1224]

@@boogie2025also 2 years later tempest rim was suppose to led to colter since original the game had a prologue in black water so it’s believed when chapter 1 started in that old build of the game u go use tempest to travel in an out the mountains likely a alternate route to valentine

[@justanothercowboy3367]

I'm pretty sure I have read somewhere (Arthur's journal) that the gang was in the Grizzlies before the Blackwater camp. So maybe Iron Cloud was the camp that they used to use in the Grizzlies? With that theory the games story could have predated months before the Blackwater massacre. Edit: Thanks for the favourite Basement Gamer Bros

[@jakel2429]

I remember that too, only I think it said that they were in the western foothills of the Grizzlies (probably outside of the map), whereas Iron Cloud is in the eastern Grizzlies

[@marcoantonioarmijomedrano4302]

I do a quick search about the beta map and tall trees was planned to have the path to nekoti rock

[@Im2akillerfish]

That artwork reminds me of that place where you recover Rain Fall's stolen supplies from a group of armymen - the mission where you get the owl talosman if you are are non-lethal. Maybe the military camp was in Iron Cloud originally? IIRC the camp spot in that mission is empty every other time, although I haven't played the game for half a year now so I'm not sure. Edit: Perhaps the unmarkes native hut on the mountains that gets burned down was connected to Iron Cloud - but that's just a guess.

[@_Devil]

I think Iron Cloud is a landmarker for the foot of the mountain, and its likely that some sort of camp was there (possibly a camp of the Van Der Linde gang, but I think its more likely that it had some sort of connection to the Native American side story, since it seemed like that part of the game was supposed to be much longer and have more content in it)

[@FiksIIanzO]

I have recently gotten into IT business. Things like these where stuff gets cut, reimagined and repurposed, happen all the time. And the thought process never goes further than questions "does it help us" and "do we have time for it". I love to see people overthinking the hell out of it. It makes a simple corporate decision very few people put actual thought into a sort of historical treasure hunt. It's amazing

[@Sco3000]

Dang, that would have been a really cool camp.

[@Daysbb]

Bro please never stop Red dead redemption 2 videos I'll keep watching them forever This game is the only reason i still play games

[@BasementGamerBros]

I'll keep making RDR2 videos as long as there's new discoveries to be shown 👍

[@marcoantonioarmijomedrano4302]

so the snowy mountains were planned to be top right and eventually changed to top left but it seems that the parts like iron cloud that were cut still have a trace on the current map

[@Wusyuwu]

Yes

[@ngpgraphics]

I should really see if my cousin has any intel on this. He was some kind of structural artist but I wonder if he knows anything about iron cloud

[@KotaChurch]

The original location was like right next to Arthurs grave

[@admo100]

Please do more of this, it's really interesting and keeps me invested in the game. Nice job though bro, keep it up!

[@Baddas_]

I can't express how much I love your Videos, And the beyond series of yours, Who ever you are, Wherever you are, Thank you! And you're awesome!

[@BasementGamerBros]

Thanks for the kind words! 🍻

[@Pir-o]

2:36 The top of that mountain looks like a turtle shell. Maybe that was the original location for the chelonians cult?

[@drewten]

really wish we had more to explore in ambarino (more of the east and north side)

[@luciussatchell9709]

Yeah a lot of it is inaccessible

[@Kenjic]

Iron cloud sounds like the color to me, dark silver/black almost. Like smoke, so much it looked like a cloud. So maybe like a mining camp...like annesberg? But maybe it was too out of place, so they combined them into a single town.

[@amiroamiro4753]

Cool video part 2 ❤❤❤

[@BlueJayKRO]

Awesome work as usual 👊🏼

[@nataliaregina3094]

whoohoo! This was a really good mystery so interesting!

[@edinsancakli765]

I think that you should make more of these videos, I love to watch rdr2 beyond boundaries stuff. I mean, like how it looks like behind Teepee mountain it would be awesome, keep it up!

[@Mike53534]

Amazing video, really enjoyed watching it, i love your work.

[@BasementGamerBros]

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words 👍

[@andythefork]

You always pick great music for your videos

[@smp1256]

The work you guys are doing is amazing, I find it so fascinating of all this behind the scenes stuff and the beta content that you guys unearthed for this game. Ah what could of been. I was really hoping to get a link to the discord? as I myself am always on the hunt for new discoveries even tho my resources are limited in datamining. I watch these videos over and over, Cheers keep it up!!!

[@noahguyette8743]

Great stuff guys, thanks

[@adriiiii__6059]

Explore Cochinay and Nekoti Rock, these are two rdr1 locations that are in rdr2 out of bounds

[@BasementGamerBros]

My first adventure to Nekoti Rock: kzbin.info/www/bejne/epjQhWOCepKebKc

[@BasementGamerBros]

And my second visit: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKmXh4WFm9p-hs0

[@smallbrain1962]

Love ur rdr2 vid been exploring out of bounds stuff myself just with that dumb bridge launch glitch it’s really interesting and sad at the same time the game could have been a bit better than it already is

[@notfeedynotlazy]

7:41 "So, to summerize quickly..." (..."You need to rename your camp Ur") Sorry, couldn't resist ;-)

[@atomoasis]

it was either a gang camp or something to do with the indians

[@AngraMainiiu]

Sorry for the late comment but is there any info at all on the cut locations of "Cohutta" and "Rim"?

[@jabaschannel]

Cohutta still in game, this is tent that gets destroyed in the Rain Falls mission, location in game unnamed now. Rim it's just Tempest Rim

[@MrCrazyrob666]

Has any game ever provoked so much debate and mystery

[@MichaelStott-z9z]

What is the music you used in this video?

[@russianspy5007]

This just makes mad at what we got, even if it’s a lot

[@bloodychesh366]

I wonder if it was another native settlement or maybe the original spot that wapiti was supposed to be. The name definitely sounds too native to not be related.

[@monas.6839]

Plot twist…Iron Cloud is where Princess Isabeau could be found/rescued, but when they scrapped Iron Cloud, she went along the wayside with it.

[@crocsshoemaster8076]

I’m thinking that Iron Cloud was actually a camp. A camp in the grizzlies where the van der Linde gang camped. Why I have this idea you say ? Well as we know the gang camped somewhere near blackwater and blah blah blah but Sam houser told that there was cut content from the game which means the blackwater stuff was actually going to be in the game. Now the main stuff is that in Arthur’s journal you can find a writing that says before blackwater they came somewhere from the grizzlies which means that the game was actually going to start in iron cloud camp…

[@lfap5055]

Nah it don't add up since if you check the beta map and look at the legend icons you'll see that it has icons listed as camp hideouts/caravans and if you look at the map you'll find the icons where the final game has the gang camps at including some cut ones like the slaughterhouse and dewberry creek most likely iron cloud was gonna be an indian camp or reservation

[@themadtitan7603]

@@lfap5055 I think Hanging Dog Ranch also listed as a camp/caravan on that map.

[@joekreissl4499]

saying that there was cut content from the game doesnt mean the blackwater stuff was actually going to be in the game. It means there was content cut from the game and we dont know what that is

[@themadtitan7603]

@@joekreissl4499 Agreed, I personally never believed the "cut Blackwater prologue/opening" theory tbh, especially when the leaked 2016 map indicates pretty clearly that even as the game was being developed Colter was the intended intro.

[@braydenh97]

the discord link is invalid :(

[@puarterquonder]

Can you take pictures there and see what the location is called?

[@Maxistanca]

Map editor is just like gta editor or it's a computer mod?

[@BasementGamerBros]

It's pretty close to the GTA Editor yes.

[@Maxistanca]

@@BasementGamerBros dammit... I don't know if I prefer having rdr2 editor or the steam boat glicht... Should I download the latest version or stay with V 1.00?

[@BasementGamerBros]

It's a PC mod so i wouldnt upgrade your console version.

[@Maxistanca]

@@BasementGamerBros ok then thnks

[@gabfortin1976]

How tf did you not figure out its a beta name for wapiti rez

[@billlaw4108]

2 RS developers disliked so far 😂🤣

[@rupertpupkin1019]

interesting stuff but this should have been a 2 min video