Reacting to DBZ Abridged Episode 60 Without Watching Dragon Ball Z

[@chrisw2307]

22:30 It actually is! That song is in the original Japanese Dub, but TFS made an English cover of it (not a direct translation) because they thought it would be the most effective thing for the scene. They went all out!

[@DiegoKawasaka]

next to the OG song its the best cover ever

[@Indexsage]

this song was really good made it more emotional R.I.P 16 you will be missed

[@MasamuneChad]

My immediate reaction to that: It... was...

[@RuneKatashima]

I have to disagree with Kaiser, I think Bruce Faulconer did it better, but he hates Bruce's music and he fought for this and he doesn't get much chance to get his way (though he does edit everything so in a way he's getting a lot of say). So, it's fair in the end probably.

[@dragonslayergu1161]

@@RuneKatashimahe doesn’t HATE Bruce’s music He thinks inferior to the original score, but he still has a lot of respect for many of the faulconer tracks He said himself: if he didn’t, we wouldn’t have seen any of them remixed in the abridged

[@ImperialGodzilla]

Cell throwing up 18 is funnier when you remember that he eats backwards, so throwing up is the equivalent to him pooping his non-existent pants

[@jeagerzbomb9924]

I.. I never thought about it in that way

[@JetZV]

The other key detail is that in the original version, it's a kick to the head that causes him to spit her out (you can still see the damage at 34:57). This basically means that he got concussed so badly that it made him shit himself.

[@darknesswave100]

That makes it about a thousand times funnier 😂

[@djmagichat1721]

​@JetZV Man, I guess he was right. Nothing quite like a concussion to really get the blood flowing...

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

This is proven on South Park.

[@ObsidianDP]

Fun fact that I know others are going to point out: All of the Cell Jr's are named after all the different VA's of Cell....yes, including the DBZA version (Edit: Vegeta Jr Jr is not a VA. The creator's just needed an extra name)

[@wingedbluj1674]

Except Vegeta Jr. Jr.

[@windhelmguard5295]

didn't know vegeta jr. jr. was a voice actor.

[@nealenthenerd399]

Vegeta Jr Jr is my favorite voice actor for cell (basically just Taka a 2nd time)

[@devonm042690]

Beyond that, it's a reference to Vegeta Jr the Saibaman.

[@frodotronnik_]

@@devonm042690"NOOO VEGETA JR!"

[@fvh7278]

40:08 It's important to remember here how instant transmission actually works. He can't just pop up whereever he wants, he has to concentrate on a particular person's ki signature, that's why he did it

[@Eldritchpanda]

Yep. He couldn't teleport to the moon unless a ki signature was there.

[@brony4869]

@@Eldritchpandato be fair, there IS a ki signature on the moon

[@Eldritchpanda]

@brony4869 TBF I don't know if Goku woukd even remember the rabbit guy. Plus wouldn't he have died when the moon got destroyed?

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

​@@Eldritchpandatwice even. But I read a comment saying that the rabbit either survived or isn't on the moon anymore.

[@Eldritchpanda]

@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 The manga really doesn't make mention of him afterwards if I recall correctly, so that might be filler.

[@arcticbanana66]

*16 in DBZ:* "Listen, Gohan, I know it's scary, but you have the ability to stop this. I believe in you!" *16 in DBZKai:* "It's okay, Gohan. There's no shame in fighting for what you believe in. You can do this!" *16 in DBZAbridged:* "By refusing to fight, you're not just useless, you're being _actively detrimental._ Now stop being a little _bitch_ and fucking _do something!"_

[@theinimitablejora522]

They’ve said it was 16 goading and manipulating Gohan more than his actual opinions, rough as it is. Sort of lends itself to SSJ2 Gohan’s red flag personality, though.

[@Jay_D_Ashe]

16 in DBZAbridgedKai: "I'm still alive in this version"

[@Agent_N7]

wasn't he just a child?

[@SparkShadow212]

​@@Agent_N7 Does it really matter? If he doesn't fight, entire galaxies would be destroyed. That will be a lot of blood in the hands of a teenager.

[@Agent_N7]

@@SparkShadow212 when have teenagers been known for good judgement skills and handling pressure?

[@FailingYourGames]

22:30 "This should have been the soundtrack of the actual show" This song is in fact an english cover of the japanese track used here, which was completely replaced with something different in the english dub.

[@Demonslayer20111]

Further proof dubs are garbage

[@Valientlink]

@@Demonslayer20111 That dub isn't that bad, but it did dirty the most iconic scene in Dragon Ball, probably all anime

[@KimidoriGreen]

​@@Demonslayer20111, agreed, tha Spanish dub kept the music of the original Dub, and that's probably why a lot of Hispanic are huge fans of the Dragon Ball series

[@Khn_2102]

​@@KimidoriGreen Indonesian dub too if I remember right

[@ghostdragon4164]

@@Khn_2102 Its really just in the English dub iirc. Most foreign dubs still keep the Japanese track though in some cases it was just the music and no lyrics

[@konkaiwa515]

all three parts in one video?? what a fucking treat im ecstatic

[@Monato_Zandu]

Ngl it’s great they added em all into one since it’s such a good finale

[@orbboom6119]

Fr

[@Lucindorn]

YESSSSIR

[@BuzryHaproMandalorianHunter]

Christmas came early.

[@bradcarver8127]

@ryanibe08 And so did I

[@nicksmyth4050]

I love how Cell is portrayed in the final part. His calm and prideful demeanor have gone out the window and he’s clearly losing it. Though unlike Frieza’s more manic meltdown, Cell is more frightening. He’s still pompous and charming, but he’s screaming and more so than ever before, everything he says is just dripping murderous intent. His “Worst case scenario, you die and get stronger. IT DID WONDERS FOR ME!” line is a great example of him just barely holding it together

[@ap7635]

Did you guys notice 16's halo in the credits. It was a nice way of saying he did have a soul and went to heaven in this version.

[@acgearsandarms1343]

Mahogany.

[@PixeIated]

Mahogany.

[@aurorapaisley7453]

Mahogany.

[@waffle2169]

Mahogany.

[@grapespace]

22:30 “This should’ve been in the actual show” It was. It literally was.

[@kaialone]

So sad to see folks not know their history 😔

[@Essu_]

@@kaialone To be fair, the title straight up says they've never seen DBZ. And even if they've just seen snippets of the dub, this song is missing there too.

[@kaialone]

@@Essu_ Only Boom has never seen DBZ, the other 3 guys have and often talk about what big fans they are

[@joeskys2362]

@@kaialone I don't remember that song witch dub is it in?🤔

[@kaialone]

@@joeskys2362 Japanese

[@Kento300]

Yamcha never enters the Buu Saga tournament, he's in the stands watching. It almost feels like he's watching Krillin's daughter while 18 and Krillin enter the tournament. And they never even invite him to compete in the Tournament of Power. haha

[@painvillegaming4119]

To be fair yamcha is the worst possible option for the TOP

[@Kento300]

@painvillegaming4119 I mean he would have made more sense than Roshi 😄

[@217adaptiveperspective]

​@@painvillegaming4119 He probably would've made it further than Tien for comedy sake honestly, knowing Toriyama

[@musicarain4702]

Didn't he stop training and just start playing baseball lol

[@unvoicedapollo3318]

​@musicarain4702 If I recall, he actually did start doing some training but not enough for them to take notice. And he really wanted them to invite him to TOP but because he was out of the game for so long, they didn't consider him. 🤣

[@Crispyconcerto]

16 is such an interesting character to me. At first he seems superfluous, sidelined except for a fight to stall out cell. But his speech to gohan, whichever version you prefer, is so impactful and illustrates the duality of loving peace and needing to defend it with conflict.

[@agrugaming5066]

Neeeeeeeeeeeeeerd

[@ethanyates7943]

@@agrugaming5066what?

[@kelaarin]

We just gonna gloss over the fact that Bulma now has a nuke in her possession?

[@ghoulishjoe]

She has the strongest two men on earth on speed dial.

[@MarisuSedai]

The woman invented a time machine in her basement, with a box of scraps. She was probably making nukes for 3rd grade science fairs.

[@painvillegaming4119]

Her husband and adoptive little brother (Goku) could blow up the sun with a finger

[@Someguyhere111]

Yes, "now".

[@GodofFreedom]

Yeah, like she couldn't just build one in an afternoon, *tops*

[@xegin1572]

Fun fact: Super Saiyan 2 only started being called that way after Goku explains the Super Saiyan "levels" just before Super Saiyan 3 reveal and calls it Super Saiyan 2. Before that, it's just refered to as "the level beyond super Saiyan" or things along those lines.

[@VerseAftrVerse]

Super Saiyan Grade 5 was the most agreed upon name before Super Saiyan 2 was coined

[@xegin1572]

@@VerseAftrVerse In japan I believe, because grade 1, grade 2 etc are rough translations from the japanese term, elswere it was something among the lines of ascended super saiyan, except in the US because DBZ was already finished when it arrived and calling it super saiyan 2 was already a thing.

[@jeremytung1632]

Fun fact: all the cell jrs, save Vegita jr jr obviously, are named after the people who voiced cell over the years.

[@humdum_yt]

The reason they actually quit making dbza is because: 1. They think they couldn't top this and the rest would be letting down the fans. 2. the next movie caused an incredible amount of burn out.

[@wingedbluj1674]

And copyright hell

[@Riku_Light]

@@wingedbluj1674Not really.

[@humdum_yt]

@@wingedbluj1674 they actually didn't have much problems with copyright around the end of the cell saga so, no It wasn't because of copyright.

[@Stairwayafter]

​@@humdum_ytyes it was, they definitely had problems with copyright issues but it wasn't the only reason, burnout was the other major reason

[@DoomBowser64]

"They think they couldn't top this" so what your saying they "Peaked" 😂😂😂

[@tvftw1]

"They should have used this in the actual show" "I can't tell what's been cut" From the original episode, nothing is cut from 21:54 to the end of part 1. Just translated the song and dubbed what few words are spoken, they played that scene as straight as they could

[@EskChan19]

Yeah it's funny that they say "This should have been in the actual show" when this WAS in the actual show in the japanese version and then the english one cut it.

[@StrikorD4C]

One thing that irks me about a few reactions to that scene is when people assume the bird during Gohan's transformation was edited in and even laugh thinking it was done so as a joke.

[@brolytriplethreat]

​@SniperKingStrikor to be fair, they _really_ hammer in his love of birds here

[@HenrythePaleoGuy]

@@StrikorD4C Shows how little some people know of the actual series, lol.

[@ghostdragon4164]

@@EskChan19 Thats what happens when American reactors have only ever seen the English dub. While its understandable when you think about it people need to watch the original Japanese version too rather than limit themselves to the English dub so they can see how much was changed.

[@willcline5918]

Yamcha didn't patriciate in the World Tournament in the Buu Saga. They even ask him while they're on their way there and he says he's given up fighting (probably because the gap in power between him and the Super Saiyans and Piccolo is so extreme at that point that he doesn't see the point).

[@JonduGaming]

Totally get where he's coming from. It would be like a white belt going against Jackie Chan or some other world famous martial artist. Yamcha is arguably top four when it comes to humans, but he can't hold a candle to the rest of the Z fighters.

[@CasualVideoGamer]

It's also safe to mention his age may be a factor, along with with a fucked up leg due to Tenshinhan. By that point in the series, he has to be in his 50s or close to it. Sure, still in great shape an all due to his martial arts, but he was about 16 or so in Dragonball. So the combination of age, his leg, and like you mentioned, the power gap all just probably demotivated him from continuing with his training. That said, the dude still tried when it counts. Never got far, but he tried.

[@ArnavJaiswal._]

The soundtrack is from dbz, TFS made a cover in English. It is gohan's theme

[@JKSSubstandard]

The question is, did they ever notice that if a character dies in an episode, it's that character who reads the intro bumper. Because I don't think they ever bring that up in their reactions

[@kaialone]

I will say, in the original show, Goku does know Gohan prefers stuff like fishing and studying to fighting- like before the Cell Games he even tells Gohan like "we gotta save the world so you can become a scholar like you wanted" and takes him to a fishing trip like he promised him (Piccolo respects Gohan's interests far less in comparison tbqh 🤔) Like I get the DBZA take, but dont get confused and think this is what it was like

[@kmgyening]

Even in canon, I think that statement from Goku was ultimately coercive. I mean, he never talked with Gohan about this plan beforehand (even though he had at least a year), and then he put Gohan entirely on the spot at the last possible moment. Gohan didn't really have enough time to lay out any reasonable case for why he was hesitant to fight until AFTER he was already fighting Cell.

[@kaialone]

@@kmgyening Just saying that Goku *knows* what Gohan likes, and that while DBZA potrays Piccolo as invested in Gohan's interests, canon shows Piccolo being annoyed to uncaring about it (tho in his defense, we dont get a lotta chances for him to comment on it)

[@kmgyening]

​@@kaialoneOk, fair enough

[@hanezutchins2786]

Holy shit someone that actually watched the original show and knows this is a parody that shouldn't be taken seriously!!!

[@sikox209]

I love that “DRAMATIC FINISH!” After Takahata101’s amazing performance of My Way to reel you back in to the comedic aspect of this show😂 TeamFourStar did an amazing job and deserve all the praise for this🤯

[@Adam-zt6di]

To this day, I continue to get chills from the TFS super saiyan 2 transformations, the cover of Day of Fate, it's insane

[@thewandering01]

It just occurred to me: Vegeta caught a lot of strays in Episode 60, but the one who caught the ULTIMATE stray was actually King Kai.

[@sirkingpinmonroe4439]

13:48 I like how Cell named his cell jr’s after Cell’s various voice actors in the DB franchise.

[@JoesAnimationHub]

Norio Wakamoto (OG Japanese) Damian Clarke (Funimation Dub) Travis Willingham (Voice of Cell in the Video Games) Curtis Arnott (Team Four Star) Dale Wilson (Ocean/Westwood Dub) Jonathan Cook (DBGT: Final Bout)

[@scotginger4690]

Ah yes, Vegeta Jr Jr, my favourite Cell VA.

[@connorwood9211]

Fun fact; In the Super manga the Cell Jr's survived this and are living under the protection of 17

[@ShaggyRambo]

If i remember correctly they dont explode in the manga only in the anime and then regenerated right? Cool that they got guardian in 17. I'd assume he would also be training with them to keep his skills sharp.

[@orbboom6119]

Makes sense, in the manga you jyst see their organs lol, so since cell survived with just one cell. I wonder if they're gonna show up and help someday, in a future arc.

[@will2276]

​@@ShaggyRamboIn the manga, the Cell Jrs have organs instead of just smoke, it's much more brutal.

[@jk844100]

It’s worth remembering that the DB Super manga isn’t canon the to main DB storyline/continuity. Unlike most Animes where the manga is the source material and the anime is an adaptation of that; the DB Super anime *is* the source material and the manga is an adaptation of the anime. So the DBS series is canon and the DBS manga isn’t (or at least the Manga original stuff isn’t canon like how anime only filler from DBZ isn’t canon)

[@ciaoatutti307]

Which is a big bullshit becouse cell's and gohan's kamehameha did destroyead everything around them so cell jr should have been wiped out they did literally showed the energy espanding and stroying everything around and everyone have to get back for not get involed in so no way cell jr was alive

[@Alpha0727]

1:08:20 The cast of DBZA actually voiced their respective characters in an episode of DBZ Kai. It would have aired if it wasn’t for Toei stepping the day the episode was to air and pulling the plug. While the episode never aired live, some cable on demand services did have the episode up for a brief time.

[@will2276]

Are they watching the DragonShortz and HFIL after this, or even the Buu bits?

[@matthewpopow6647]

Or hellsing

[@ermindedic3706]

They have watched the buu bits, and will then transition to dragon ball z battle of gods. So they might watch super idk

[@LegoAndrew987]

Maybe also the cell games

[@BobTheSkull]

did they ever watch the DBZA Kai's? if not thats a bit disappointing.@@ermindedic3706

[@rpgrage7711]

"And now the end is near and so we face the final curtains" I'm glad we're doing all 3 parts in one this has been such a fun ride episode 60 is still probably my favorite episode all 3 parts are truly perfect

[@michaelparham1328]

35:15 Academically speaking he's probably AP highschool level, with several college credits.

[@LittleZbot]

22:30 It WAS in the original! It's an English cover of Day of Fate, the song written for this in the original Japanese Anime. The Dub changed the score because... well, it's music, so the dub is legally obligated to be bad.

[@pyrotempestwing]

It was the ‘90s. No one wanted Japanese in their ‘Murican animes. Very unfortunate, indeed.

[@sonomni]

Since of course they had falconer productions music at the time.

[@greymangaming1877]

Faulconer music was better with the rare exception of a few nostalgic tracks

[@LittleZbot]

@@greymangaming1877 Dude, if it weren't for nostalgia, Faulconer's team wouldn't even be remembered today. You could hit "shuffle" on a Faulconer playlist and ANY other Dragon Ball OST playlist (original, Kai, video games, anything) and ask a random person on the street which one they like better. 95% of people will pick the other playlist no matter what comes up. Except the SSJ3 theme. That was pretty good

[@sonomni]

@@LittleZbot Honestly SSJ3, Piccolo’s theme, Super Saiyan Vegeta, Gohan Angers, Perfect Cell and Goku’s Super Saiyan theme are the memorable ones, everything else is generic.

[@1suuuperfrankystan812]

You guys should definitely watch the Buu bits they made to go with totally not Mark's DBZ review

[@In-The-Zone]

Only after he watches the Buu saga though. They don't fill in gaps so it will just be rapid fire jokes that will become super hit or miss

[@CajunCrustacean]

So, all three parts premiered on Twitch a week or so apart, and every part got more and more viewers. The finale had something like 45k in live chat. It was glorious chaos. Chat was going so fast that you could barely register that there was a given comment before it disappeared. At the time, I was working security, so I went "on patrol" and watched the streams.

[@Nazo-kage]

1:10:03 this is a really nice detail that they decided to throw in here in the specials Thanks picture. Android 16 with a halo. That means that not only did he have a soul, but what you’re seeing is his heaven.

[@DavidRomigJr]

TFS didn’t stop because of copyright strikes. In fact, while Goku’s goodbye speech was actually a goodbye to the fans speech saying maybe they’d come back someday, this episode ended with a notice that they were continuing with season 4. Then it continued with DBZ Kai 2.9 (the 3.0 April Fools’ joke), 3, and 3.5. But then after they wrote and rewrote the Bojack movie script over and over again and not being happy with it, they made an announcement that they changed their minds, that they realized they were burnt out on the series and they didn’t want to force themselves and maybe come to resent DB, which they love. With that, the announcement at the end of this episode was clipped out so people wouldn’t keeping asking what happened to season 4. Then came Dragon Shortz and HFIL based on their abridged characters. I personally love HFIL. Also, fairly recently, Totally Not Mark did an expose on DBZ season 4 and TFS did a set of season 4 bits for it and they later compiled them onto their channel as “Buu Bits”.

[@Shinigamibraggo]

Small note but they actually did state copyright concerns were one of their reasons for stopping at the time

[@Arkayjiya]

Copyright absolutely was a factor, it just wasn't the only one.

[@gurvmlk]

@@Arkayjiya Indeed. Even if Copyright wasn't necessarily the reason why they didn't continue, I'm certain it played a large part in burning them out.

[@nuredingeziqi679]

While it's generally more well known nowadays, Gohan's transformation sequence is more faithful than the actual original english dub. Them putting that song as well the silence from both the Narrator and Gohan is exactly how it was done in the original air in Japan. In the english dub and in other dubs as well, like with the Italian dub, that was just removed and other stuff was put instead of it and the scene was SEVERELY diminished because of it (the before mentioned narrator and Gohan's nonexistent internal dialogue). It hits so hard, and even harder than the original for most because it was originally diminished with these languages in the first place

[@GamersSpeakingNonsense]

22:30 It's from the original Japanese episode. TFS recreated the moment but with english lyrics.

[@MXALOVE]

Goku's instant transmission can only teleport to a person, so King Kai was kinda one of his only options. He can't just teleport a place.

[@burningfox4974]

I just love how Goku had the same bet on Vegeta+Krillan like Bulma, cause those two has literally known V+K the longest.

[@Ringking-ws7bz]

Yes but lets not believe Goku would have stopped Cell from absorbing android 18 or from Cell being in final form. He let Freeza do it so why would Cell be any different. All Sayians have the need to proove who is stronger and Goku is just as bad a Vegeta

[@burningfox4974]

@@Ringking-ws7bz I think if Goku wasn’t planning on unlocking Gohons hidden potential, if he were to face Imp./Semi-perf Cell. He would NOT let him transform, because although he’d allow someone to get stronger to prove themselves, I don’t think he’d allow it if lives were sacrificed for it. Which would be the difference between Veggie and Goku

[@kmgyening]

@@Ringking-ws7bz Goku and most of the other fighter characters arbitrarily switched between proactive and not proactive throughout this entire arc. I maintain the issue starts with them not listening to Bulma in the first place.

[@goodtim3s394]

The mutual flipping off and Vegeta constantly copping strays gets me xD

[@Bolvar4dragon]

They actually just vaguely referred to it as an Ascended Saiyan until much later when the name Super Saiyan 2 is introduced. Whether or not you decide to watch Kai, I genuinely recommend going back and watching some of those iconic scenes or episodes in the original dub. The whole atmosphere with the voice direction and the Bruce Falconer music is just next level. All of the iconic super saiyan transformation scenes are my favorite.

[@Warbaman]

Theyre shook by the white dove like that was TFS, nah that shit was in it fr 😂

[@Courier_Seven]

Android 16s "good man doing nothing" speech still holds up really well, it's cool to see how far the quality of their writing for this came since the first ten episodes.

[@herofox12]

Fun fact: the song that plays when Gohan goes SSJ2 is in the Japanese version. However, the TFS version is the only version of an English variant of the song.

[@vegeta30000]

21:55 I don't understand all the giggling.

[@taot5655]

Simple ignorance. Even from the group that have seen the anime they have seen the english dub that scrapped all of that. Abridged funny enough was more faithful. And to the the sudden holy music given that the show havent given anything like that even when Goku went super saiyan for the first time

[@TheKyrix82]

The Yamcha thing, there are 3 moments. At the start of Buu, there's a World Tournament that Yamcha goes to watch, but doesn't participate in. Near the end of Buu, in the afterlife, Yamcha is seen beating Olibu AND Pikkon, the latter of which beat King Cold, Frieza, Cell and the Ginyus all at once. By the way, Yamcha beay Olibu and Pikkon at the same time, but Pikkon also beat all those villains at the same time, I just worded that poorly And in the Tournament of Power, Yamcha wants to be invited, but Goku picks someone else.

[@Babylauncher3000]

40:10 There is no Moon anymore. Piccolo blew it up in the Saiyan Saga to stop Gohan from transforming.

[@cybersoul2809]

There is, tho. Kami made another one after Piccolo blew it up

[@coryholliday926]

In the actual lore, instant transmission is not location based but ki based. Goku can find anyone with a ki signature he recognizes and teleport to near them. So he couldn't teleport to an abandoned planet or dead space, his choices were somewhere else on earth, new namek, or king kai's

[@LucinaMarthLowell]

That song when gohan went ssj2 That song IS in the show. The original Japanese dub had that song but tfs made an English cover for their own version

[@dustinb4286]

I get chills every time Gohan goes SSJ2 and the song plays. The tears dry from his eyes . . . and he scowls - the bang is down - death is here.

[@qkumber9441]

in og dragonball, the king watched as Goku literally fought down to his last limb to save him from demon king piccolo. its kinda poetic that he recognizes Goku's son, who is also now saving the world with only one arm and a kamehameha.

[@Dovahkiin914]

Goku technically had no choice but to take Cell to King Kai's planet. Instant transmission requires that he teleport to an energy source, which means he'd have to go somewhere with at least 1 person. At least with King Kai's planet, he could guarantee the least deaths.

[@arcadius3257]

Nope, there was no telepathic conversation in the original. He pops up, King kai and gang freak out, Goku says he didn't know where to take him and King Kai responds with "You could have called first" before Cell blows them all up 😂

[@wingedbluj1674]

In the Manga, Cell pretty much detonates the second he appeared on King Kai's planet.

[@arcadius3257]

@@wingedbluj1674 Never watched that, I'm talking about the anime dub.

[@theluchakabuto5206]

HMan not reacting to Cell jumping and making the sonic spring sound was a non canonical timeline glitch

[@stardmg]

DBZA stopped for three main reasons: the aforementioned copyright issues with Toei, the immense amount of time and production each episode took, and the gang experiencing burnout while trying to write for the film Bojack Unbound. Making Season 3 and especially episode 60 put them through the wringer, and they didn't want to sacrifice quality by pushing themselves through a Season 4.

[@huzaifakashif1389]

1:10:56 ssj2 is also known as Ascended Super Saiyan, which sounds much better tbh.

[@Zeandico]

I'll be honest. I have seen DBZ Abridged many times, and people reacting to it many more. I never understood why King Kai was upset with Yamcha when they used the wishes until this time. It's because Yamcha specifically asked for people on Earth to be resurrected, meaning King Kai wasn't. I don't know how I didn't realize it sooner.

[@jeronimoledesma6804]

22:32 It was, this is the song of that scene in the original

[@Corzoko]

For context, each part of episode 60 was about a year apart, which is why "My Way" was so much more impactful. Those of us who grew up with it had been WAITING. FOR. YEARS. for the conclusion.

[@Samgreen90]

(At 46:30) And we can finally hear f-bombs, WITHOUT the profanity sensor.

[@coranbaker6401]

It's funny, despite the recurring joke about how weak Yamcha is, the writers LOVE him. He even gets his own episode in Super where he beats the strongest warriors of another universe in baseball.

[@chrismcdonald6079]

“I’m not done ripping the wings off this butterfly” goes extremely hard

[@gamezx]

There's also the "buu bits" video which is kinda like a speed run through of them doing clips of the buu saga if you want a little more to watch. Also the "cell vs" clips, those are good too

[@ApinofArc]

Instead of just the buu bits. I totally recommend totallynotmarks buu saga review. (The video the buu bits were made for) He's a damn good analyst, fun watch, and well worth the watch at that. But obviously that requires context of the original show. A lil pointless if they haven't watched the buu saga v.v (But for anyone else, please do! The dude doesn't get enough credit! His vids are great)

[@fennecwolfox]

The thing about Mr Satan saying that he beat Cell was basically more framed as him doing it to keep everyone calm when they thought the world was going to be destroyed. He KNOWS the truth and actually respects Goku and co for their part in beating Cell, but eventually, even Goku realized it would be better to keep things under wraps as to how close the world came to ending. Mr Satan didn't mind the publicity, but he's a good guy deep down. Later in the series, it's even shown that he keeps Goku's family afloat with his cash as thanks for the whole thing, basically.

[@vinfrost6194]

I'm glad to see your reaction for the end! Teamfourstar also did their own animated series called HFIL, which follows Cell in hell. So, if you guys want more content, there's that series.

[@OmegaFalcon]

I think spuer saiyan 2 was only named that when they created super saiyan 3, before that it was just Ascended saiyan

[@joshuadunn2]

Fun fact: When Cell lists the names of his children, he's (mostly) saying the first names of people who have provided their voices for the role of Cell across multiple mediums and countries.

[@sumgamesonmyphone9203]

Fun fact: one guy does the 3 voices of cell: imperfect, semi and perfect cell. But not just that, but android 16, Super Kami Guru and Nappa:) The range of that man

[@seabass819]

fun fact, each of the cell jrs are named after voice actors for perfect cell from all the different dubs, including abridged.

[@monjikhechini9724]

Gohan was canonically 9 at that fight, but physically 10 cuz of the year in the time room.

[@braydenfuller3511]

"this is better than the soundtrack in the actual show". It actually is the soundtrack in the show. They dubbed the song that plays in the og japanese version when gohan goes ssj2

[@user-bz3mm5nn1m]

All three episodes in one … PERFECTION

[@jeffreygilson1565]

Yamcha just being humble and letting the others win, such a good friend.

[@embran8486]

Aww, you guys missed the Solar flare during Cell´s My Way song! 52:26

[@downd.stairs8313]

Gohan when he fought Cell was younger than Goku at the begining of the story. He was THAT much stronger than Goku.

[@GamerGrovyle]

The difference is that Goku received a brain injury as a kid which repressed a lot of his Saiyan instincts. Gohan has been training using them since he was four years old while Goku didn't learn to accept his until he was in his twenties.

[@downd.stairs8313]

@@GamerGrovyle I'm talking raw strength. Gohan, debatably, never surpassed Goku in fighting skill, just raw power. and Goku's brain injury didnt affect his strength. if anything it's near death severity made him stronger.

[@In-The-Zone]

I think if you plan to watch the Buu Bits you should watch the actual Buu saga first. They are well bits so they don't have much context so things can't really build up like the abridge did to fill in blanks. Whether you start Kai at the beginning or right after this I would say depends on how quickly you want to get to the Buu Bits. Also if you want another abridge series I would recommend Bleach S or Fate UBW abridge(both by the same people) assuming at least some of you have seen original Bleach or Fate. It can be watched without knowing the original like DBZA but I think its always good to have someone in the know.

[@human_pog3893]

The song that played when Gohan went SSJ2 is actually an english cover of the original japanese score for that scene

[@franciscojaviermendezrinco1902]

34:20 Remember I said take note when Gohan was about to study cellular biology and he said that cells are boring? This is why.

[@JunTekuTheEngima]

It's weird I binged their abridged reactions for the past 2 days, and watched this episode only hours after it was announced, didn't even know it until I woke up at 9am this morning

[@nicodemusmaxwell1624]

I like how Jimmy firecracker in this version basically asked Mr. S to take credit to calm down as rioting fans

[@Crocogator]

Yep, in the Tournament of Power they even point out that Yamcha is just "Waiting for everyone to invite me" He doesn't say he wants to join the team, just assumes they want him. He doesn't even get an invite. And Puar is used to train ROSHI.

[@hanezutchins2786]

Yeah by that point the Yamcha Sucks meme had taken flight in Japan. Even the creators couldn't resist 😅

[@Subxenox15]

That "A good man doing nothing" line hits really hard in current times. Too many good men do nothing while our society crumbles because we don't want to harm anyone, even bad people. I think times are about to change.

[@deathinc]

Several reactors have been continuing with DBZ Kai after this. It's a very good transition point and a great way to see just how incredibly accurate the Abridged was to the dub.

[@lewisgrant7622]

Rest in peace to the creator of dragon ball. Akira toriyama

[@BCCSquidward]

"Part of the journey is the end." 🗿🔥🐉

[@mordirit8727]

Goku's "Instant Transmission" depends on having a destination ki to go to. He needs to know a person, then he can concentrate on their ki and teleport with it, so any empty places in the universe are no game for it. He ends up going to King Kai's planet because it's the person whose ki he knows who has the least people around to be collateral damage. His only other options would have been the Yardrats who taught him the technique or the Namekians in New Namek. Both instances would involve destroying a planet with its own civilisation, killing untold amounts of people, other than those 2 the only ki he knew to go to would all be on Earth so, not fixing the problem at all. King Kai was kind of the best option, it sucks for him, Bubbles and Gregory (and Bojack of course) but it was the least harm he could go with. Of course, as it often does, filler fucks this up irreparably. Why didn't he go to Princess Snake's or just to Hell? Fuck you, that's why xD So yeah, with the filler it makes zero sense but if you only take into account the canon episodes, it was the best he could do. Edit: before anyone talks about the rabbit on the Moon: there _isn't_ a rabbit on the moon. That bitch is either dead or he fell back to Earth years and years ago. Keep in mind, the Moon has been blown up, wished back into existence, then _blown up again_ and wished back into existence _again_ since that dude was placed there by Goku, he definitely isn't there anymore.

[@hathorliderc]

You know, after this, you can still watch the Buu bits that they did recently, along with HFIL and DB Shortz.

[@CarbonMage]

9:30 Yamcha just spectates that one too. #18 wins because of Goku and Vegeta leaving (well, she throws to Mr. Satan to get a bigger payout than the actual prize money by blackmailing him lol)

[@infini_ryu9461]

Funniest part is he's actually supposed to be 9 here, or close to 10 given the time chamber shenanigans because they didn't spend the entire year in there.

[@johnmichaelchance1151]

He’s 11

[@BluePhoenix_]

He is physically 11. His legal age is pretty irrelevant here.

[@Black_ReaperKai]

Actually 9 at the start of the android saga should of been 10 even if they didn't spend the entire year stayed 9 cause Toriyama wanted to use his natural age so yes he is 9 unfortunately the dub aged him up and the games made it worse also Videl is a year older than Gohan she's 17 when they meet 😅

[@lucariomew365]

Gohan was born May 18 in Age 757. The Cell games took place on May 26 in Age 767. So he's chronologically 10 years and 8 days old (having his 10th bday in the week follow up), but biologically +1 year due to Room of Spirit & Time. If you manually go through the series, it is stated that he was 4. Add in all the time skips, you still get 10 (+1 with RoS&T).

[@infini_ryu9461]

@@lucariomew365 Nah, you right, I got the times mixed up. But I knew he's at least 1 year younger in the Manga. I don't use RoS&T as it's not completely clear how long Goku and Gohan were in there as they came out early. And he's still be chronologically 10.

[@huzaifakashif1389]

22:32 in the first, original , DBZ Japanese version, they used this soundtrack for this moment, and it made the moment of ssj2 Gohan more epic than what we got later on. The soundtrack was in Japanese though, but it was still fire.

[@chrischief117]

Doing part 60 all in one video? Damn, HYPE! 🔥🔥If I wasn't broke I'd sub to Patreon for that

[@InsaneGamersPro]

It wasn't just the copyright issues (which did play a big part, since their channel was almost nuked more than once), they were facing serious burnout, other projects that they could profit from, and members of TFS wanting to leave to do their own thing. All that stress and pressure lead them to realize that this was probably the best place and time to end it. Especially since they literally got stressed over how to write the next movie and season. All in all, it was down to keep going, but everything after this would be of less quality because their heart wasn't in it, or end it here

[@SebastianTheGreat]

All 3 parts in 1 video!?! It’s a Christmas miracle! 🎄

[@AdhdBpdPtsstism]

I havent seen this posted yet but gohan is actually 9 here but was changed to 11 and called teen gohan for marketing in the west. But if you read the manga he is only 9 years only during the cell games. Then a 7 year time skip to make him 16 in the buu saga. Great content btw. This was a nice journey to go on with you guys.

[@WMAVZ]

22:31 It IS the soundtrack of the actual show, in the japanese version and pretty much every dub worldwide, but you know, America being America, doing a complete different thing for the rest of the world and kind of sucking on it XD

[@HenrythePaleoGuy]

It isn't necessarily worse, just different.

[@delcox8165]

1:11:21 It actually _was_ left a mystery, though in-universe they unofficially called it an "ascended saiyan". The characters merely acknowledged that Gohan "did it right", meaning achieved the level the three other saiyans had been trying to reach for. It wasn't until late in the Buu saga (which at the time of the Cell Saga being written wasn't going to be a thing) when even higher forms were made that numbers started getting used.

[@chrismcdonald6079]

This show has increased my appreciation for Sinatra

[@toddkes5890]

17:50 - right here Mr Satan redeems himself after all the prior episodes 42:39 - this is how powerful Cell is. He is so far above both that he was confusing Tien's power level and Trucks' power level. 56:28 - then again Mr Satan is Mr Satan 1:00:00 - Well, Ox King can only afford to feed two Saiyan appetites

[@OMGitisGuy]

They initially called it "Ascended Super Saiyan", but after Buu saga Goku ascended beyond *that*, he decided to just number them instead, for brevity. Otherwise, in the words of Buu saga Krillin, "what would that make him, 'double ascended [super saiyan]'?"

[@brolytriplethreat]

Technically there were also the Grades, but yeah, it was Goku that arbitrarily numbered certain forms

[@OMGitisGuy]

@@brolytriplethreat Those weren't really different forms though, more like different degrees of buff form 1. Gohan was the first to truly ascend, or shift a gear, rather than merely (over)tuning what they already had.

[@mercurioslevin1877]

@@OMGitisGuy true as the overbulked form Trunks used was named Ultra Super Saiyan if remember rightly but like you said there was more aka to buffs to super Saiyan.

[@michaelscotts3949]

Couldve teleported him away and immediately came back before he boomed....