REACTION | DOCTOR WHO | The Next Doctor

[@obiwankenobi687]

Rosita was meant as an amalgamation of the doctors companions so far, the name of Rose, the appearance and voice of Martha and the no nonsense attitude of Donna

[@Slate-writer]

who told you that !?!

[@JermaineWilliams-t7j]

That’s cool. Never noticed that

[@IsiahBradley]

I believe that also.

[@altinaykor364]

OMG, that's brilliant

[@danielsubelka4275]

I've never noticed until now, but when the Cyberman is pointing to say "This man is a danger," it's pointing at Jackson Lake, but the shadow of his finger is pointing at the Doctor.

[@jaybennet4491]

doctor worthy eye

[@chadhoward6697]

I can tell you that RTD and the other producers were 100% intentionally yanking the fans' chains with this episode title. It was announced after DT had announced he was leaving, and the title was revealed BETWEEN the airing of The Stolen Earth and Journey's End, so all of us were doing the merry-go-round of "Is DT seriously doing a surprise exit before the season 4 finale or not??" And all the promos played coy with whether David Morrisey might indeed be the new Doctor or not (Matt Smith hadn't been announced yet). Fun times back in 2008!

[@10thdoctor15]

David Tennant announced he was leaving months after Journey's End, then this episode title was revealed.

[@LondonCelt]

David Morrissey is the best Doctor we never had. Can you imagine an actor of his ilk being the Doctor full time wow

[@farview13]

Two outstanding moments in this episode make it worth watching: The crowd cheering for the Doctor and the "...they break my heart." speech.

[@pokemaniac05]

Your reaction when 10 showed all of the previous doctors to Jackson, i will admit it was a pretty great moment even though they do this multiple times before and since, like you can't escape this showing every previous Doctor.

[@HuntingViolets]

"The Doctor's companion does what the Doctor says." Hahaha. Tell me another.

[@kemmdog4444]

You might want to check out a BBC series called Blackpool ,a musical crime drama, with David Tennant, David Morrissey and Sarah Parish,who played the Empress of the Racnoss.

[@scottredding7357]

David Bradley and Steve Pemberton have bit parts in Blackpool too.

[@NicoleM_radiantbaby]

'Blackpool' is my fave David Tennant thing, tbh.

[@godmagnus]

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, is it sonic?

[@TwoMenandaCanoe]

I like to think that Jackson Lake and the Doctor went on at least one adventure in the Tardis before he ran out.

[@HuntingViolets]

Maybe a few.

[@barkingmonkee]

And I like to think Jackson and Rosita had world saving adventures of their own after the Doctor left.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@barkingmonkee I'd love to see a book series or even some spinoff specials of that. It would be exciting to see the actress again in a big part.

[@worthybutter2004]

@@HuntingViolets Actually, there IS a book where that happens! It's called "Doctor Who: Ten Days Of Christmas", it was published last year and is a collection of festive stories involving 10 saving Christmas multiple times and one story has him and Jackson reunite for at least one adventure.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@worthybutter2004 Thank you, that's very cool.

[@zombiepicnic9683]

This era of Dr Who really liked to mess with the fans in a meta sense. They'd take things that are known to the public and use it to trick the expectation. Since David Tennant was so wildly popular as The Doctor, his leaving the series was big news. Everyone knew it was going to happen, so they kept teasing it. A similar thing happened in the Matt Smith era, but I'm not about to make River Song mad so no spoilers (even if you're past that point currently).

[@sallyatticum]

I am sure the Davids had a blast making this together. They sang, danced and fought with one another in Blackpool immediately before David became The Doctor. Blackpool is a fun musical murder mystery love story. Worth a watch, only 6 episodes.

[@cara9680]

"i’m so sorry. but that's an awful lot of luggage for one man" always hits me whenever i watch this. it isn’t the best episode of the show by far, but for me it still has a good handful of moments that stand out.

[@andrewbowman4611]

This is one of those where the casting does a lot of the heavy lifting. For example, Dervla Kirwan was widely known at this point for her roles in Goodnight Sweetheart and Ballykissangel, while David Morrissey had been in all sorts of things, most notably the series Blackpool, alongside David Tennant himself. It's also interesting to observe that while most people in the UK are more interested in character interaction rather than plot, it does seem that in the US plot is more important than character; at least, from what I've seen.

[@HuntingViolets]

I finally watched _Blackpool._ What a time!

[@scottredding7357]

Tethered Aerial Release Developed In Style.

[@elliottnoad1270]

Weird bit of trivia, the cyberwork house was the Torchwood 3 Hub set being redocorated & reused. David Tennant & David Morrissey were in a 2004 series called Blackpool, a jukebox musical crime drama. One of the more well known clips being Tennant & Morrissey's characters singing These Boots Are Made For Walking in an arcade= kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH-ZcmRvjsakqpIfeature=shared

[@phantomsidious2934]

David Morrissey was great in this as the 'Doctor', pity he was never cast as the doctor at some point, his costume was very cool to.

[@HuntingViolets]

Yes!

[@lesterbottomley7641]

You never know. It would be a great surprise regeneration. He's used faces from the past before.

[@firefly24601]

"One of the Doctors should remember the other one." I'm glad you've seen THAT plot with 13 already!! 😆

[@BritanyBinges]

Are you talking about The Fugitive Doctor stuff or The Timeless Child stuff? I can see this comment applying to either. lol

[@firefly24601]

@@BritanyBinges I consider them all one thing, so yes. 😆

[@BritanyBinges]

@@firefly24601 Fair enough. lol

[@TheZebbga]

This episode was obviously the christmas special but the name "The Next Doctor" was everywhere. The BBC really wanted you to believe that he was the next Doctor. Although I don't think anyone was actually fooled (at least I wasn't).

[@solitarymaninblack]

The actress playing the villain used to be in an Irish drama called Ballykissangel which did also have Colin Farrell. Get well soon.

[@BritanyBinges]

Oh, interesting! I kept thinking she looked familiar as I was editing this, but I had never even heard of that show before reading your comment so that can't be where I know her from. lol Also, thank you for the well wishes! This was originally filmed back in November 2022, so I'm good now. :)

[@FoggyD]

I also remember her from early seasons of the sitcom Goodnight Sweetheart.

[@bananasaregood8655]

'It's everything you could want to know about the doctor..' Except the war doctor, who fought in the time war LOL

[@EditedAF987]

Given the paradoxical and contradictory nature of the time war, it was probably difficult to record any historical data.

[@12chapin]

He’s a doctor now, but he’s change professions later. I can see he being a governor or something. Hello 👋🏻. There could never be too many Doctors.

[@wispa1a]

The paradox is they never remember meeting themselves.

[@ConstanzeWeber]

This episode is weird for me because a big chunk of it was filmed really close to where I live. I walk through there every week and know people who live in some of those houses. I really like the episode and there are a few little nods to its filming location if you know what to look out for.

[@firefly24601]

The main villain lady in this episode is in the current season of True Detective, as well as Christopher Eccleston. Both playing American!

[@BritanyBinges]

Ooooh... I didn't know Christopher was in it! I've only seen the first season (wasn't crazy about it).

[@firefly24601]

@@BritanyBinges I haven't seen any of the series except the first episode of the current season. Watching it to see how Jodie does in it. It was weeeiiiird to see Chris as some American guy named Ted. 😁

[@BritanyBinges]

@@firefly24601 Yeah, I'm not sure I've ever heard him with an American accent. It would be weird.

[@IsiahBradley]

THANKS for this!!! I love this episode but I've only watched it twice (?) because at the end of the day, The Next Doctor's (and Ten's!) loss is too much for me :(

[@markdavidson9100]

I remember looking forward to this so much, especially with cybermen and Victorian setting…it just fell a bit flat and the cyberking was trying too hard. Thank you for reacting

[@BritanyBinges]

Yeah, I completely agree that the actual story falls flat.

[@iz723]

My inner child loved a giant metal robot.

[@matthewpreston28]

It wud of been fun if they later joined the paternoster gang

[@BritanyBinges]

Oh! You're right, that would've been fun. I could totally see them fitting in with the Paternoster gang.

[@karlfleming7182]

Yeah this is my least favorite of these final David Tennant specials but it's saved by David Morrissey who played the 'other doctor'. He did a great job in this

[@BritanyBinges]

Yeah, David Morrissey definitely made this special for me.

[@df6957]

I can't believe that noone has mentioned "Blackpool" yet. It was a strange little series with both of the Davids that came out about a year before this. It is worth a watch if you can find it. But it is a bit of an acquired taste...

[@gestaltdude]

Sorry, this comment is becoming much longer than I thought. I can honestly say thought that, as a parent, the very thought of losing a child is enough to send one into a major depressive episode. It is all to easy to imagine that actually losing one would force the mind to defend itself by retreating to a place where such a thing never happened, even if it meant taking on a whole new personality. The reason for using kids as oppsoed to adults as a workforce would likely due be to simple security. ie, you don't have to worry about them overpowering their captor or trying to escape. And if you get enough kids in one place you can offset the reduction in output you'd lose from having smaller work units. Also, at this point in history, there were so many orphans that using them would have gone unnoticed, hence those particular men being converted, whereas if many adults had gone missing it would have drawn attention to the Cybermen's operation, while there was no one to worry about the orphans. To clarify the question about a paradox, it would have been true only if the Doctor deliberately crossed his own timeline to try and change events in his own past. Even if Jackson Lake was the real Doctor, this version of the Doctor would have simply become a part of his own history, rather than the element that changed it. On a casting note, the lad you played Frederic Lake also appeared in an episode of the New Who spin off Torchwood, which I would recommend if you have the time, being centered around Captain Jack, s seen in the last two episodes of the fourth season.

[@nedzed3663]

Hey I get it, I didn't start liking Cybermen as an antagonist until series 8, where ironically they were the flunkies for some other antagonist who stole the show. But to be fair I didn't like Daleks until the 13th Doctor, it just depends on what's done with them, there are some interesting ideas here and there and one wasted potential instance in series 7 where it would have been more effective and interesting using them instead of Daleks. I think Cybermen work better when there's that body horror aspect of them using people as spare parts, the person trapped in the machine. Those types of Cybermen stories are so good

[@10thdoctor15]

The Cybermen should definitely have been used instead of the Daleks in the story. Didn't like the Daleks until 13!? I'm assuming you didn't watch series 1-4 until later.

[@nedzed3663]

@10thdoctor15 Oh no, I've watched the series from season 1 to current. And maybe "didn't like" them is a bit harsh. I do like the Daleks and Cybermen. They just weren't always my favorite antagonists for the Dr to face. There were some interesting bits here and there with both during RTD, Moffatt, and Chibnall's runs. The Daleks moreso than the Cybermen, because there were some moments with Moffat especially where the creep factor was captured really well with the Daleks, which was my issue with how his run (with the 11th Doc) handled the Cybermen. The Cybermen should be the creepy. The episode "Asylum of the Daleks" could have been so much more unsettling had it been the "Asylum of the Cybermen". Imagine it would be Cybermen who's conversion didn't completely take and they went insane, or the people still in there fighting the programming. Toss some corrosion effects on the costumes like what was done in that episode with the insane Daleks, play up more of that Cyberman scene in the Pandorica where the head opened up like a trap and attacked Amy, where the rotted skull falls out, more of THAT. It also didn't help that the two Cybermen episodes we got with just them as the antagonists are pretty weak episodes (Nightmare in Silver and Closing Time). So, no, I don't hate them. They're both iconic it just took me a WHILE to find them entertaining, I now appreciate them though and want more of them in the new series. I'm looking forward to seeing what new crazy shit RTD will do with them

[@joshuajoshua2732]

Only 2 months before this episode aired David Tennant already announced at the rewards ceremony back in 2008 that he was leaving the show, Matt Smith wasn't yet announced so it was left to fans to theorise and some thought actor David Morrissey (From The Walking Dead) was going to be the next eleventh incarnation of the Doctor some also thought he could be younger version of The First Doctor this episode of course proved to be false. No one to this day understands what was with the doggy cybermen where they came from? or why they were used? I mean i liked it as a new concept but the issue I always had with the modern cybermen was they were too robotic I prefer the cybermen from the Classic series they were far creepier and it worked have you seen "The Tenth Planet" yet brittany? otherwise I won't spoil it to explain why but anyway with Dr. Who nothing ever gets explained properly that's the beauty of it it's the left at the figment of your imagination. I'm ok with the Doctor going without a companion for awhile as it is a show about him because i do feel it gets abit companion centric but also because after 3 tragic losses with Rose, Martha and Donna although Martha was the only one who decided to leave and not left too scarred but traumatised because of what happened with her family under the control of The Master he doesn't want to go through loss and heartache again which I'd why he's having a break from having companions atleast for now.

[@HuntingViolets]

Honestly, he would have been a great Doctor. I would have loved him as the Doctor.

[@HuntingViolets]

Misspelling in the subtitles, interesting. ("[B]are" for "bear.")

[@BritanyBinges]

The subtitles are ones I manually add so there are bound to be typos every now and then.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@BritanyBinges Oh, sorry, I figured they were from DVDs or the website.

[@BritanyBinges]

@@HuntingViolets No, I can't watch things with the subtitles on because I hyperfocus on them and miss a lot of what's actually happening in the show. Plus, manually adding them like I do helps the video to not get flagged as easily for copyright issues (although they're not 100% effective, but nothing is when it comes to KZbin).

[@HuntingViolets]

@@BritanyBingesI'll keep that in mind in the future.

[@helloneighborfan1626]

What did you think of wild blue yonder, the giggle and the church on ruby road?

[@BritanyBinges]

Wild Blue Yonder was interesting but some of the effects took me completely out of the moment ... epecially with character-driven the episode was (which I always love). However, 14's breakdown in the corridor is a top moment of the entire show for me. The Giggle I did like overall but only because of the moments with 14/Donna and 15's intro/seeing Ncuti (I've been reacting to Sex Education over on Patreon and I love his character in that, so it was fun getting to see his first moments as the Doctor). NPH ruined the rest of it for me. For Church on Ruby Road: Some of the parts with the Goblins were on the ridiculous/childish side (which isn't my favorite and is part of why I haven't been stoked about RTD coming back), but I loved the episode as a whole. I already love 15 (he has such a fun energy, but also has still has that depth/darkness, and I was glad to see he's still being affected by The Timeless Child revelation). I also adore Ruby and love seeing the two of them of the play off each other. It got me very excited for the new season.

[@joshuajoshua2732]

I agree on "Wild Blue Yonder" but "The Giggle" I really enjoyed even the silliness i don't mind abit of cheesy here and there I like that with Ncuti's 15th Doctor were moving on from the tired trope of angry God Doctor because it's been the becoming a tired trope with the last four Doctors although with Jodie Whittaker it was starting to get away from that alittle but I don't like when the writers humanise the Doctor too much because it makes him less alien and I prefer the alien side of the character i actually thought NPH as the Toymaker was really good but the way he was easily defeated by missing a cricket ball was weak I must admit I hated the bigeneration I would had preferred David had just simply changed into Ncuti because now you no longer have that emotional drama or consequence and making a duplicate TARDIS was really stupid and the dinner scene really through me off it should had ended with the 14th Doctor saying goodluck showing Ncuti and ended it there. I know alot of people are glad to see Donna get her memories back and being reunited with the Doctor I personally think having her ending undone from the end of Series 4 was ruined because now I'll rewatch that scene with little impact the problem with RTD is he doesn't know when to end characters I would have not brought back Tennant as the "14th" Doctor I would have had Jodie regenerated straight into Ncuti and if Donna was to come back this being a Time travel show I would had brought her back at a point before she lost her memory so her ending wouldn't be undone and I was kind of hoping RTD would quietly ignore this Timeless child crap but no it looks like we're sticking to it.

[@BritanyBinges]

@@joshuajoshua2732 I appreciate you sharing your thoughts! I will say, we disagree on pretty much everything. lol But, that's the great thing about a show like this... there's so much material to work with that there's something for everyone. :)

[@matthewpreston28]

It's over dr I have the high ground and ofc the cybermen almost turn into anakin/vader

[@phantom115cw]

He would make a better doctor, then Matt Smith

[@Pharaohred]

Honestly the cybermen in the show fail 9/10 times because the majority of cyberman stories... dont need them. The cybermen are at their best when the concept is core to the story. The human need to survive at any cost. the horror of paying that cost. The sheer loss of humanity. Very few stories in the classic or new eras actually get that right, but when they do, thats when you get the cybermen the way they were intended. If you finish the 5th doctor's era in classic who, check out the audio story "Spare Parts". Its probably the concept of the cybermen at its best, show or otherwise.

[@matthewpreston28]

Ur gunna love the giggle

[@BritanyBinges]

I actually wasn't super crazy about it. It was by far my least favorite of the 60th specials.

[@MarkWardReacts]

I don't like this episode either, particularly once the 'mystery' is resolved about 20 minutes in. From then on, it's just so mediocre... but still better than the next one...

[@BritanyBinges]

If you prefer not to know my thoughts on episode before seeing the reaction, don't read the rest of this comment. lol . . . . . I actually REALLY enjoyed Planet of the Dead. It was my favorite special up to that point.

[@BookNomming]

This one isn’t my favourite, it’s the one I don’t tend to rewatch

[@dntm123]

If I could make a small request: when you upload Waters of Mars, *PLEASE DON'T* put the creatures in the thumbnail. Those things have freaking traumatized me for years, I still refuse to watch that episode to this day.

[@BritanyBinges]

Honestly, I probably would have but I won't now because I completely understand what it's like to be traumatized every time you see a fictional character (for me, it's Chucky).

[@12chapin]

Mr, Smith, why the Doctor choose that name? Does he looks like a Smith to you?

[@canadian__ninja]

For me this special was always one of my least favourite pieces of doctor who. Not as bad as Love and Monsters or Fear Her of course but something about the episode and how it's juxtaposed between some very heavy emotional things always deterred me. Same with Planet of the Dead. Two things that really didn't need to exist and feel like they were there to pad the episode count.

[@qqqqqqqqqqqq121212]

Even the biggest Cyberman fan wouldn’t say this was the best outing… it’s an alright episode but just alright

[@ItsCrossbow]

The cybermen are good villains but this was probably one of the worst cybermen story’s but David morrsey is the best thing about this story he was a good doctor even if he technically wasn’t the doctor it’s a shame he never got to be the doctor. The next episode is a Easter episode

[@lagnok]

You focus too much on story and not enough on characterization and feeling.

[@BritanyBinges]

You must be new to the channel because it's literally the opposite.