REACTION | DOCTOR WHO | The Waters of Mars

[@NovaBridger]

For anyone asking about Planet Of The Dead, Britany posted a community post a couple weeks ago saying she's had trouble getting it past copyright stuff.

[@BritanyBinges]

Thank you!!!

[@zemoxian]

I was just wondering that.

[@Rossmaclellan101]

Ahh right. I was wondering that while I was catching up on the DW videos

[@bryter00]

Another nice little touch to highlight the Doctor has lost it, is throughout this era it has been made clear that the Doctor has saved us so many times and has never asked for thanks. The first thing he says after landing back on Earth is “Isn’t anyone going to thank me?”

[@phantomsidious2934]

"The laws of time are MINE, and they will obey ME!" Sounds like something the Master would say ...

[@mollymaclachlan]

*Utopia:* The Doctor: Master. I'm sorry. The Master: Tough. *The Waters of Mars:* Adelaide: No one should have that much power. The Doctor: Tough.

[@Sodmylife36]

"Doctor...your master is showing.."

[@StevenJShow]

In the third doctor's era it was "YOU WILL OBEY ME."

[@morphman86]

That's what this episode was for. This and Turn Left both showed just how much The Doctor relies on his companions to keep him straight, and that the big difference between him and other time lords is the company he keeps.

[@_GuestFive]

Back in the Runaway Bride Christmas special: Donna: Just promise me one thing, find someone. The Doctor: I don't need anyone. Donna: Yes you do. Because sometimes... I think you need someone to stop you.

[@13dronid]

@@mayotango1317 not always. There are moments for a number of Doctors where they almost cross a line.

[@Brimfulofasher]

Adaleide even says at the end "and there's noone to stop you" which is what he needs. And why I think that 10 has the best arc of any doctor

[@ryanakers1372]

"What is this episode?" The closest we've seen The Doctor get to being like The Master.

[@ryanakers1372]

@@mayotango1317 Fair. Closest in New Who.

[@livingcoffee_edits]

He get's closer in the audio books, wipes out a entire species

[@crazysingergirl7262]

Back when they discovered water on Mars, all of us Whovians were freaking out. “Don’t touch the water!”

[@Will-nn6ux]

The thing is, 'little people' was probably the 10th Doctor letting his charming, personable mask slip. As charming and personable as he was, and as much as he genuinely cared, he always did kind of look down on ordinary people.

[@altinaykor364]

nonsense

[@Br0nto5aurus]

That's what I love about 11. 10 says to Donna, "you're not important" but 11 says to a scrooge-like character in a Christmas episode, "900 years of time and space and I've never met anyone who wasn't important"

[@13dronid]

Remember what Donna said. "Sometimes you need someone to stop you..." This is what happens when no one is there.

[@anonymes2884]

"...I thought I was just a survivor but i'm not. I'm the winner.". Chills every time. I doubt any of us expected that in an episode with such a well realised monster, _the Doctor_ would be the scariest part. But here we are :). The masterful touch for me is, at the _start_ we're all aboard right? _We_ feel triumphant too, we feel the allure of finally letting go of all those rules. And then in a split second, mostly due to Tennant, it turns into something deeply sinister. Just brilliant TV IMO.

[@BritanyBinges]

Yeah, I was scared of the monster, but I was chilled and disturbed by 10. That's definitely an accomplishment.

[@mackenziejohnson5200]

Okay, since I didn't see any note about it, I'll mention that the language the Doctor speaks that the Flood zombies seem to recognize I believe is meant to be the language of the Ice Warriors (and I think he alludes to them when looking at the glacier too)

[@dupersuper1938]

@@mayotango1317 ???

[@LezArtist5iG]

19:34 This is a wake-up call that the Doctor has had this power the whole time. He has chosen not to use it, until now. This is a major policy change and only while not having a human companion. This also questions if he's ever done this before, and why not for Rose, River Song, Lady Pompadour, and all his favorite humans and aliens? ✌️😸

[@noahspadgenske9875]

Fun story: Planet of the Dead (the previous special) was the 200th Doctor Who story ever. A Doctor Who magazine polled the fans and made a list ranking all 200 of them, least popular to most popular. Blink was #2 of all time. Imagine how high this one would have ranked if it had made it into the 200 list…

[@markbechtold7372]

Shoutout to Cpt. Adelaide Brook for doing a companion's essential job, to stop the Doctor at all costs when he is in the wrong. She made the ultimate sacrifice to do so.

[@robvanriot]

"Why are you telling me all this?" "As consolation." So much heartbreak in so few words.

[@reedjos08]

This, Midnight and Dalek are my favorite type of episodes. Episodes you might only get one of per season, but that really dig into the Doctor, their world and what their limitations are. Not exactly a typical episode, but some of the most facinating places the show can go.

[@SorchaSublime]

I want to give credit to how excellent the character writing in this episode was. The characters are made so compelling, Yuris little monologue about his family is one of my favourite scenes.

[@matthewpreston28]

They called it Bowie base 1 due to his hit single life on Mars

[@htim8997]

Every time I watch this episode the part that hits me the hardest is watching Tennant's face as he's walking away from the base while everything's falling apart.

[@Creek932]

This episode shows exactly why The Doctor needs a companion. Just like Donna said, sometimes he needs someone to stop him.

[@obiwankenobi687]

Ood Sigma told him his song his ending back in planet of the ood. So when all of a sudden Sigma shows up at the end, Ten is like oh crap, it’s time

[@fleason771]

Just simply one of the best hour of Doctor Who. Setting, supporting cast, storyline & Tennant & Duncan just superb 🤯

[@10thdoctor15]

Fixed points can't be changed, time compensates. When the Doctor said he would fight Adelaide, he is fighting time trying to uphold itself.

[@zGamerGodz]

Tennant absolutely crushes it this episode. Probably the best piece of acting in the entire series as a whole imo. Also a terrifying portrayal of The Doctor starting to lose his grip and why he needs someone to ground him.

[@andrewraphael3800]

This was the last episode Directed by Graeme Harper, who is the only Director to have helmed stories from both Classic and New Who. I met him once at a Starburst convention - very talented man with bundles of energy.

[@sallyatticum]

The behind the scenes confidential episode for this is terrific. They show how they create the creatures and explain that they had to make them less scary...

[@Corlwow]

This may be my favourite episode of all time. Tucked away in that special series. Very underrated - but later created a whole alternate universe - but that aside - the best single episode imo of doctor who.

[@BritanyBinges]

I'm current with the show over on Patreon and this is still one of my favorites. :)

[@lucasparadox6823]

This episode is always so heartbreaking... you feel the Doctors pain and want to save them, but you also see how off the rails he's gone and that he needs to have some sense knocked back into his head.

[@ajivins1]

Lindsay Duncan was great in this! The Doctor doesn't do 'alone' very well, he needs a friend to act as his 'control' or limiter.

[@davidhope1]

That’s before the war, now he’s the doctor with PTSD. Travelling with Rose, Martha & Donna allowed him to experience the wonders of the universe again and probably kept him from thinking about everything he lost for a while. But by isolating himself all he has left is the memories of what he lost & how helpless he was to save Gallifrey so this was the straw the broke him

[@BritanyBinges]

I removed a comment by @mayotango1317 it contained discussions of doctors I haven't encountered in my Classic reactions yet. Please remember to keep comments spoiler-free.

[@ajivins1]

@@BritanyBinges Shame.

[@ghostpants7930]

This episode perfectly explains why The Doctor needs companions. Without humans, he has no humanity.

[@MarkWardReacts]

Absolute perfection. One of my favourite episodes of ANY show ever. Tennant’s performance is the best he ever puts in and it is near matched by Lindsay Duncan in what is one of the best performances by a guest actor ever. The writing is so unexpected and makes such interesting choices that takes you somewhere you’ve never expected to go in Doctor Who.

[@SirRichardOwen2]

By far my favourite episode, the whole part from 13:15 to the end is a demonstration of what Doctor Who is capable.

[@francisbartoszewski2284]

A lot of familiar and recognisable faces in this episode, Gemma Chan is now big in Hollywood, Maggie's actor plays Liet Kynes in Dune: Part One and the crews doctor has his 2nd Dr Who role as he was in the laser tag episode of Sarah Jane Adventures.

[@SorchaSublime]

OH! I wondered why Kynes seemed so familiar

[@islaythejabberwokky]

Waters of Mars is so brilliant. Really one of the most terrifying episodes, imo, because you've spent so long on this journey with the Doctor and learning from him and believing in him, and you have to watch helplessly as he starts to snap and break every rule and lose all the things that make him the hero-- and in such a way that is *tragic,* because his motivation is to *save* these people... but the way he goes about it is all wrong, the way he talks about it all sounds so wrong coming from him rather than a character like the Master. And the music, David's performance, the side characters' reactions to him, it all makes you feel such *horror* at what he's become... The best part is, this wasn't a sudden switch. The Doctor has been teetering on this edge for a *long* time, and it's all been hinted at with the Tenth Doctor in particular since as far back as School Reunion. It's beautifully crafted storytelling.

[@laurajaynenolan2149]

This episode really highlights his acting ability. David is on a whole other level 👏🏽

[@RedmoonIndustries]

If you were told that you would die right after holding a baby in the middle of a rainstorm, and you were in danger in the middle of the desert. You could assume that you couldn't die because there is no baby/rainstorm combination possible. It could give you the confidence to do whatever you needed to do in that situation. At this point the Doctor has become paranoid about a male knocking four times, because that's what he was told.

[@CalMusicCovers]

I remember talking to the people behind the prosthetic in this episode, the actors had 2 small flexible pipes running from the top of their mouth, over their cheekbones and down the back which then connected to a hose that someone controlled just out of shot. They then had the cracked mouth prosthetic put over top, this mixed with the actors taking a mouth full of water for the closeups. I remember that they had to use cold water to prevent the skin from being crumpled, when recording in winter months wasn't very comfortable for them haha

[@BritanyBinges]

Thanks for explaining this! I was genuinely curious about it. lol

[@CalMusicCovers]

@@BritanyBinges haha no worries great reaction! Looking forward to the next series

[@ajivins1]

Oh and this is an example of the 'base under siege' story, a trope through the show.

[@paulflux5892]

One of the best stories in New Who. Brilliantly written, directed, and acted!

[@TheZebbga]

What I love about this episode is how dark it is. I remember that usually Doctor Who would be on TV around 6pm, but this one was shown a little later as it was seen as too scary for kids. But as for how they did the water effect, they basically built a prosthetic mouth peice around the actual mouth and has a small hose go through it that was pouring out water. But this is one of my favourite episodes, I agree that it makes you care about the supporting characters which is impressive since you are pretty much certain they will die.

[@mollymaclachlan]

One of the things I like about this episode that I think goes unspoken about a lot is how after the Doctor's, "I've done this sort of thing before, saved some little people," it's those "little people" (Mia and Yuri) who are the ones that end up surviving. And I imagine their telling of their story was probably one of the biggest factors that influenced Adelaide's daughter to go into the stars in this timeline, meaning they actually ended up being much more "important" (by his definition) than he gave them credit for.

[@Mr_Saxon]

I'm sure someone has answered this for you already, but to respond to your confusion about the Ood, it's a reference from the episode "Planet Of The Ood" and the conversation between The Doctor and Ood Sigma (who makes his appearance here) at the end. Ood Sigma: We thank you, Doctor Donna. Friends of Oodkind. And what of you now? Will you stay? There is room in the song for you. The Doctor: Oh, I’ve… sort of got a song of my own, thanks. Ood Sigma: I think your song must end soon. The Doctor: Meaning? Ood Sigma: Every song must end.

[@matthewpreston28]

They made a whole spinoff multi media series based on the timelord victorious

[@kemmdog4444]

“Turn around,bright eyes.”😊

[@MyNaMeIsLiAm16]

My honest to go favourite episode, we see what happens to The Doctor when he's on his own for more than he should be, after all he's lost and all he continues to lose he finally decides that enough is enough. If the universe wants to fuck with me then i'll fuck with it back.

[@Llanchlo]

All the way back to the Meddling Monk in 1965 the Time Lords have shown the potential to be the most dangerous villains - trouble later personified in the Master

[@iz723]

The emotional weight of these scenes were so well done. I hope we get something like this again, but its not likely.

[@maxjones7754]

Andy played by Alan ruscoe is a regular monster actor at this point in who started as the lead auton in rose countless others but first and only time his face appears!

[@lenners9701]

I was so looking forward to this reaction. This is the first episode that released after I was born and because I grew up with Tennant I cannot express how much the flood scarred me. Took me years to watch with my eyes open. But what a phenomenal episode

[@HudsonMedia]

Man this episode is SO good. I adore it. Just peak Doctor Who.

[@hornorsilk2901]

I always liked this one, and feel it gets better on rewatch.

[@digdew]

This is what happens when The Doctor travels alone

[@kemmdog4444]

“He will knock four times.”

[@kemmdog4444]

“Water always wins.”

[@caitfurnox]

I can’t express how happy I am to see this reaction!! Pretty much exactly how I reacted too hahaha

[@mathewnavarro1152]

A Doctor left unchecked.

[@daveangel2991]

Such a great episode, which sets things up perfectly for what's about to happen.

[@sallyatticum]

This is probably my favorite episode. I was like you, worried and stressed throughout. I thought he was so scary like a mad scientist with the fire behind him. Some people cheer him on, but not me. Absolutely brilliant casting for Captain Adelaide Brooke. Lindsay Duncan was wonderful. I just wish they had followed through with the Time Lord Victorious for a few episodes.

[@harish123az]

"He didnt change anything!" Well he did save two of those people in the end.

[@sallyatticum]

Right, there are two people in the world that shouldn't be. I always wished they would do more to show how the Doctor changed things. Just little things. Like in Back to the Future, Twin Pines Mall becomes Lone Pine. No attention is drawn to it; it just is. They rarely do that in this show.

[@BritanyBinges]

With everything else that happened in this episode, I just honestly forgot about them.

[@altinaykor364]

the same way he did in Pompei because Donna asked him to

[@SkillsLoading]

Random fact I learned from the book version of the Martian, the plot point about filters not fitting is something that real life NASA has already been confronted with when it comes to their shuttles. So now every NASA system that needs a filter has a standardised size and fitting, so any filter will fit any system.

[@shaunmale6566]

DOCTOR: For a long time now, I thought I was just a survivor, but I'm not. I'm the winner. That's who I am. The Time Lord Victorious. ADELAIDE: And there's no one to stop you. DOCTOR: No. ADELAIDE: This is wrong, Doctor. I don't care who you are. The Time Lord Victorious is wrong. DOCTOR: That's for me to decide. Now, you'd better get home. Oh, it's all locked up. You've been away. Still, that's easy. DOCTOR: All yours. ADELAIDE: Is there nothing you can't do? DOCTOR: Not any more. Still gives me chills. The water monsters were scary but What's even scarier is The Doctor behaving like this. He's like going against his own rules and thinks he can do anything. The worst part about his actions and behaviour, is that he got someone killed. He's The Doctor, the man who saves people. Adelaide knew that he was wrong, that's why she took action into her own hands. Her killing herself made him realise he had gone too far and that's heartbreaking.

[@charlielynch3916]

When you said he didn't change anything, it is worth noting he saved Mia and Yuri, who would have died too.

[@glenns7252]

This is one of the stand out from these specials/season for a non story arc its memorable

[@Mikesupr1]

"We are fighting time itself...and I am gonna win!"

[@jennifermorris6848]

You had the best reaction to the Timelord Victorious and really realized that he was falling apart when he was trying to save everyone. Some people cheer him along but you see him as completely losing it. Buckle up . . .

[@BritanyBinges]

Yeah, it was very clearly not a good thing. I didn't know how bad it was going to be, but I knew it was going to be bad. lol

[@ldkinbote]

Ha! I was like, "I totally forgot Gemma Chan was in this episode. LOOK at her! She's a BABY!" 😁

[@channyh.221B]

Always thought it was a good episode but never a big fan of The Waters of MARS ... untill I watched your reaction to it. You went through so much emotions and I could feel them all and now this episode will never be the same (in a good way).

[@BritanyBinges]

Thank you so much for this!

[@trapbuilder2283]

One theory I saw as to why the Dalek let her go was that it also knew how important she was to time, that she was a fixed point

[@BritanyBinges]

I don't mean this to sound sarcastic. It's a genuine question ... would the Daleks care about her being part of a fixed point in time? It seems like they would care if their actions created chaos, especially for the human race.

[@trapbuilder2283]

@@BritanyBinges Sorry to get back to this so late. Basically, the Daleks wouldn't care if it caused chaos for humans, but they would care if it caused negative effects for themselves, and fixed points are fixed for a reason. It's too risky to bother messing around with them. Remember when Rose saved her father from getting run over and reality started falling apart?

[@Jimmy_Jones]

Gadget speeding with flames is my favorite scene in this episode.

[@kenmercer8112]

i just watched the titanic in space episode and noticed a foreshadowing to the timelord victorious.... at the end of that episode.

[@obiwankenobi687]

This might be my favourite episode of the show

[@theunoriginaljess]

there is an excellent story all about "timelord victorious"

[@pokemaniac05]

I did remember seeing this on the ABC Australia way back and the Flood was creepy & scary upon seeing them for the first time and yeah there was a notable cast in this one. Shame that Doctor Who doesn't air on the ABC anymore after many decades on it, thanks Disney ugh.

[@lancourt]

Without Donna to stop him, he's right on the edge of no longer being the Doctor... He is about to become the Victor

[@creepykidandinfinitedreams2987]

Wonderful reaction!!!

[@BritanyBinges]

So glad you enjoyed it! :)

[@phtevenj]

Name of the episode - The WATERS of Mars Britany - why all the liquid 🤣🤣🤣 Another great reaction tho 🥰

[@BritanyBinges]

I try not to know the episode titles in advance and they have a habit of spoiling things.

[@jennifermorris6848]

Calling out the music. Murray Gold is the MVP in the next few episodes.

[@sallyatticum]

The music is always a supporting character in the show!

[@IsiahBradley]

YAHOO!!! I'm all caught up with this channel's Nu Who reactions!!! I love me some Lindsay Duncan because she's in "Sherlock," the only show I love more than this one (but perhaps after the 60th specials they are now tied :)). 😍😍😍😍😍 But where is "Planet of the Dead," the episode that is supposed to go *before* this? 😵‍💫 [SEES YOUR NOTES ON IT] WHAT? [PAUSE] WHAT?? [PAUSE] *WHAT???* Well, screw it then!!! Allon-y!!!!

[@TwoMenandaCanoe]

Such a great episode. I loved how it implies that it is time for this Doctor to go. He has gone too far. Loved it.

[@AlmightyCRJ]

Interesting side point to the near future motif - those were BBC news webpage styles.

[@markdavidson9100]

My favourite characters survived, yay 🙌

[@elliottnoad1270]

Watching as a kid, back in 2009 was weird, like kid me realising i'd be in my late 50s when the story was set Interesting parallels with Fires Of Pompeii & this: fire vs water; Doctor not wanting to save anyone/keeping history on track vs Doctor saving people; history being fine when he saves Caecillius' family vs history going wrong (it got better later) when he saved Adelaide. The Doctor becoming the Timelord Victorious was explored in more detail as a multimedia event in 2020, as an honoury "15 years of Revival Who special event". The main part of event (across books, comics, audios, an escape room & a immersive theatre experience) saw time fracturing due to the Doctor saving Adelaide, the Doctor going up against alien grim reapers & committing genocide against said alien grim reapers, and getting a reality check from Eccleston Doctor & McGann Doctor afterwards.

[@TheMultiForge]

The Valeyard bubbling up close to the surface

[@canadian__ninja]

I recently bit the bullet and got the patreon. But I'll never say no to watching this one again. Brit can probably tell which patron I am now

[@BritanyBinges]

So glad to have you join us over on Patreon! Will you be joining us on the Zoom call next weekend?

[@SGlitz]

The other, more CLASSIC inhabitants of Mars are not in this one.... 🤔

[@chris-hz2wd]

Captain Adelaide Brooke is an absoloute badass

[@ThePonderer]

Damn perfect episode

[@ldkinbote]

Totally agree with you in that this was a really good episode but it was very disturbing. I was...unsettled for quite some time after watching it, but I give it props for being very effective at creeping me out.

[@joshuajoshua2732]

It's ok it's Doctor Who your meant to be scared :) horror episodes are always the best.

[@dbilly121]

Yeah it's anything but good, the Time Lord Victorious is a path to becoming the Master.

[@SGlitz]

Dark Doctor...dark dark Doctor...

[@BritanyBinges]

I actually refer to 12 as the dark Doctor. 9 is PTSD Doctor, 10 is Angry Doctor, 11 is Kid Doctor, and 12 is Dark Doctor. I don't have nicknames for 13-15 yet as they mostly come how I think of them when I reflect back on their era's and not enough time has really passed yet for that.

[@wembleyford]

Shame you couldn't get Planet of the Dead past the copyright gremlins - but other than Malcolm that's not a huge loss. Hope you more or less enjoyed it.

[@BritanyBinges]

I actually really enjoyed it. It's still one of my favorite episodes because I loved Christina.

[@ItsCrossbow]

My favourite 10th doctor story I loved The Flood as villains (water zombies) and the doctor acting like a villian near the end of the story showing his darkness one of the best episodes of doctor who imo. Also did I miss planet of the dead? It’s not the best episode tbf but it contributes to the 10th doctors story ending arc

[@MalcolmWolf]

Unfortunatly KZbin refuses to keep her Planet of the Dead reaction up, no matter how often she changes things.

[@BritanyBinges]

Malcolm is correct. YT blocked it after like 12 rounds of edits and BBC studios denied my appeal. I made a few community posts about it (I keep that updated if there are ever delays or issues with an episode).

[@thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319]

When I say this is the best doctor who episode though like really peaked here

[@ripleyjlawman.3162]

I still don’t completely understand why Mia’s age matters since Roman is 2 years younger than her, if you actually do the numbers. (My only guess is that it’s because she’s a woman, but who knows? Because I can’t think of a single other reason why her being 27 might make a difference.)

[@chakra8924]

I don't know if you're still confused on the end BUT the reason time didn't change much was because Adelaide killed herself to preserve the timeline. If she had lived, time would've fallen apart or something like that. AND because of what The Doctor did, it caused a crack to open in time, which the TARDIS used to take The Doctor back in time to the Dark Times of the universe to teach him a lesson. But instead he tried to defeat death itself, or at least the idea of death called the Kotturuh, commanding a fleet to destroy their planet. Which got so bad the Eight AND Ninth Doctor were brought in to try and stop him. There's way more to the story, plus i haven't listened to the audio of it so some details might be wrong. But yeah, he went power mad for a while.

[@throughmyeyes8568]

It's back! 😊

[@BritanyBinges]

It didn't go anywhere by choice. KZbin blocked my Planet of Dead reaction after like or something rounds of edits and then BBC Studios denied my appeal. I made a few community posts about it.

[@fleason771]

This was the OG BBC One trailer for this ep & I still remember it blowing me away 🤯 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4rcf5-vZdp4o6Msi=N7PbbSADivVLT4Au

[@fleason771]

Every single official S4 trailer was epic Britany! S4 Cinema Trailer - kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5Tcn2p_eKuZaKcsi=VuzPEHKzHVlzRhVH S4 Campfire Trailer - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZiVl5SIgtl3l9ksi=w04ZF5LabXwSI6xQ & The Journeys End Trailer - kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3ekfopnqLKSoZosi=BFmhnQextLw_Ti8M

[@davidmonaghan26]

At that point towards the end was the doctor being like the master

[@TheHumanPalindrome]

What happened to Planet Of The Dead?

[@NovaBridger]

Copyright demons

[@BritanyBinges]

Nova is correct. YT blocked it after like 12 rounds of edits and BBC studios denied my appeal. I made a few community posts about it (I keep that updated if there are ever delays or issues with an episode).

[@gregweatherup9596]

The Time Lord Victorious is chilling. Since Britany is fully caught-up the following is not “spoiler-adjacent” for her, but might be considered such for anyone watching along for the first time - if that’s you, don’t read any further in this comment. The Time Lord Victorious is chilling. I think some of my favorite episodes are the ones that explore, or touch upon, the doctor’s dark side. It’s something that should only be done sparingly but it’s so memorable when they do. It’s one thing I don’t think the Whitaker doctors era ever addressed and that’s amongst the reasons I rank it lower than the other era’s. And I’m very concerned because this Disney era of Doctor Who is indicating that the current doctor is ‘past his trauma’ with the whole bi-generation thing and the previous doctor ‘working through his trauma’ by staying with Donna - which while a happy ending and something fantastic in the real world, is not so good going ahead for a fictional character’s drive.

[@BritanyBinges]

I was really concerned about this new era as well and just having the 15th Doctor be over all the Timeless Child/Flux trauma but I think The Church on Ruby Road made it clear that's not going to be the case and then the two trailers have also been a little more reassuring as they showed him crying again. So, I think we'll still get some emotional moments.

[@gregweatherup9596]

@@BritanyBinges I hope you’re right.