REACTION: Which is better?? Nightwish - Amaranth - Official video VS Wacken 2013

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@VerbalDroppings
@VerbalDroppings 5 жыл бұрын
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@juliereminiec4937
@juliereminiec4937 4 жыл бұрын
Try Tar ja. That 's hiwy she pronounced her name
@alanfrost75
@alanfrost75 5 жыл бұрын
Floor was my favourite vocalist looooong before she ever joined Nightwish, and for good damn reason. That girl can do anything.
@inflatable2
@inflatable2 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6ilepiPpbFqo7M Even Maiden.. 🤘
@devoneagle1966
@devoneagle1966 5 жыл бұрын
I very much like the original of this song with Anette. She's got a lovely voice - but honestly, Nightwish sound so much better with Floor! Her vocals are just more suited to the band and Tuomas' awesome music (not to mention his poetic lyrics).
@rickstrom5499
@rickstrom5499 4 жыл бұрын
Only compare Amaranthe, (song) not all off Nightwish, there she is Floor outstanding, 🚪
@des_o7935
@des_o7935 5 жыл бұрын
Floor usually upgrades everything she touches. Turns average songs to good songs, good songs to amazing songs and excellent songs into masterpieces. Not just in Nightwish but in all her other endeavours.
@angelsfallfirst7348
@angelsfallfirst7348 4 жыл бұрын
With the exception of Sleeping Sun, Nemo, End of all Hope, and 10th Man Down, of course. They're all so talented though can't we just appreciate them all whilst they are all still around at the same time?
@maxrav1831
@maxrav1831 4 жыл бұрын
Name 1 apart for GLS arguably? Certainly not this it's pish in comparison.
@jjs9672
@jjs9672 5 жыл бұрын
This is the song that got me into nightwish, so this song and the album got a special place in my heart. But Floor man. Damn. Makes me proud to be dutch
@akpilon
@akpilon 5 жыл бұрын
Tuomas no longer has to compose his songs for a particular singer. He now can write them however he wants, knowing Floor can handle them.
@BOOMBiggityBam
@BOOMBiggityBam 5 жыл бұрын
He must be like a kid in a candy store writing for her! I just can't wait for future songs!
@cree_VI
@cree_VI 5 жыл бұрын
now he can go crazy with songs :D
@ilkkak3065
@ilkkak3065 5 жыл бұрын
@@BOOMBiggityBam And Kai playing drumms there is no speedlimits on beat or limits of fills that can be played...
@norsegamingtv1686
@norsegamingtv1686 5 жыл бұрын
@@BOOMBiggityBam Floor is writing some of the songs in the next album if I'm not mistaken.
@Aurinkohirvi
@Aurinkohirvi 4 жыл бұрын
Tuomas didn't think Anette when he composed Amaranth. When he did, they didn't yet know who would be their singer. After DPP-album was composed, they had singer applicants sing those songs, and they found Anette the best one.
@maracita
@maracita 5 жыл бұрын
I have this belief that it was during this song, around the time Floor has got that crowd devoted to her and Tuomas has his hands on his head in complete awe, that all doubts (if he had any) about Floor becoming an integral part of the band were cleared! The joy he is experiencing is, for all of us that have lived his emotions and inner duels with him, the most pleasant thing to see! And for sure, this version kills it!
@devoneagle1966
@devoneagle1966 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@Jklak100
@Jklak100 5 жыл бұрын
Mara Fontes - Yes, I like also think that way. That after Wacken 2013 both fans and band had no doubts abouf Floor’s place in Nightwish,.. 😊
@casualcarolinafishing5835
@casualcarolinafishing5835 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, we all have different tastes and it would be a boring world indeed if we all liked the same thing. That said, I'm really glad Floor is now a part of Nightwish. Her presence and as you stated, vocal power is just on another level and she can do anything from their past, present, and future endeavors.
@learnerchris
@learnerchris 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Floor’s vocal gymnastics on Human || Nature are just amazing!
@MikeReed
@MikeReed 5 жыл бұрын
Floor just takes Nightwish to a level that is unworldly. She is the best singer period.
@juliereminiec4937
@juliereminiec4937 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@maxrav1831
@maxrav1831 4 жыл бұрын
Unworthy are you saying she's overrated? I have to agree.
@kiangdv
@kiangdv 4 жыл бұрын
not on that song...
@steliosb8195
@steliosb8195 5 жыл бұрын
In floor we trust
@stevekanakanui7033
@stevekanakanui7033 5 жыл бұрын
Nightwish + Floor = a match made in Heaven ..no comparison ..Floor has more power and versatility and charisma , hands down
@needhealing4059
@needhealing4059 5 жыл бұрын
But ''Endless Forms Most Beautiful'' is much weaker than albums with Annette. They have a great singer, but they only use her at concerts, not in the studio
@juri2001
@juri2001 5 жыл бұрын
you lost your hearing due to age Steve, not Your fault
@leeuniverse
@leeuniverse 5 жыл бұрын
Not even... Tarja was the "mach made in Heaven" with Nightwish. Floor's "average" in comparison. I can't even listen to Nightwish anymore after hearing Tarja's Century Child album and some of her best individual songs with Nightwish. She just matched the music perfectly.
@stevekanakanui7033
@stevekanakanui7033 5 жыл бұрын
@@leeuniverse i guess its all a matter of opinion , you are certainly entitled to yours .
@gabriel.bardac
@gabriel.bardac 5 жыл бұрын
You're not crazy. Imo, this is what made Floor succesfully in Nightwish: reloading songs composed for Tarja and Anette's voices and interpret all at a higher level. The entire Wacken concert she sang songs composed for the other two singer's voices, and she did all flawless. You listened 2 seconds from the live at Wacken to noticed "yes, it's better". :)
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like they were writing their songs for Floor but didn't know it at the time.
@DeeDee80
@DeeDee80 5 жыл бұрын
You are spot on, I get the same feeling that Tuomas adapted his composing style to Anette's voice and the result was pretty good. I was amazed by how creative they were with Imaginaerum. Floor can sing it perfectly due to her versatility. I do not think Tarja could do so well with Anette's era songs, just like Anette struggled with the older songs, their voices are just completely different. Floor is perfect for Nightwish because she can sing anything. They are all beautiful, talented ladies in their own way and each brought something memorable to the epic Nightwish journey so far.
@mramd9062
@mramd9062 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that poppy style of Anette was not dramatic enough, IMHO she was leaning to much on the background. Floors version was just so much better, and that is the the difference between the 3 singers. Tarja was too dramatic (to much opera) Anette was too poppy (not dramatic enough) and Floor is the in between, can sound poppy enough and dramatic enough. Floor is the perfect mix. Now i will get a shitstorm of negative reactions to mine, but that is how i feel it. Great reaction, do more of these
@ShadowhispersBand
@ShadowhispersBand 5 жыл бұрын
This is kind of a no-brainer. First, Nightwish is an awesome liveband. Second, well how can I put it nicely... Floor has way more power, versatility and charisma.
@garygwin1741
@garygwin1741 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly think you and these fans love NIGHTWISH so much your going to support the current singer over anyone else. That said, Annette is 100% head and shoulders better than Floor. Floor is pitchy, and struggles to keep a consistent tone and even the timing of AMARANTHE, which is one of NIGHTWISH'S BEST SONGS!! OBVIOUSLY TARJA is on a totally higher level than either of them.
@ShadowhispersBand
@ShadowhispersBand 5 жыл бұрын
GARY Gwin You just make me laugh. Seen Floor over 15 years ago for the first time live with Star One. I‘m not a big fan of Nightwish. But Anette does not belong in a band like Nightwish. Like putting a 50 horsepower engine into a Ferrari. So. Again. This is a no-brainer.
@alexojeda9048
@alexojeda9048 5 жыл бұрын
@@garygwin1741 I support the current ( and best) singer Floor because of what she has brought to Symphonic Metal genre. She's not a relatively unknown commodity like Annette was. Floor was in After Forever which was one of the best Symphonic Metal bands in the 2000's. Annette is a Pop singer and really had no business being there; fault is on Tuomas for picking her. Tarja is head and shoulders above Annette but Floor is her equal in many ways and surpasses her in others. Floor Jansen is the best singer for Nightwish at this stage of their careers. I will give this. It is funny that all the reaction videos for Nightwish are with Floor and not Tarja or Annette. So newer fans may have their judgement clouded a bit. But I'm not one of them. Been a fan of Symphonic Metal for nearly two decades so I know what works and what doesn't.
@garygwin1741
@garygwin1741 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexojeda9048 Calling Floor Equal to Tarja is an ABSOLUTE JOKE. Tarja is a TRUE WORLD CLASS OPERA SINGER. Opera singers are the best singers on the planet. Floor would look silly during a pure opera vocal. Tarja is one of the top 10 vocalists on Earth. I dont care what Floor's background is. Annette is a True Rock Singer, and you obviously haven't really accurately compared Floor to Annette Live. I've seen Floor live, and ive been to over 100 Metal shows and seen over 400 bands. Floor isnt better than 35% of all the singer's ive seen in Metal. I have over 27 years of live metal show experience, and seen over 400 different bands.
@alexojeda9048
@alexojeda9048 5 жыл бұрын
@@garygwin1741 Really, you want to go the one up route with me. Okay, I've seen Nightwish live both with Annette and Floor, never got to see Tarja with them. I've seen Floor with her old band After Forever. I've lost count as to how many live shows I've been to but my first show was Iron Maiden back in '85 for the World Slavery Tour which puts me over 35 years of live viewing experience. Annette is a Pop singer not a Rock singer. I will give that Tarja is a better straight up opera singer that Floor but not by much. Listen to the first two After Forever albums. Nightwish is a Metal band that incorporates classical musical elements not a night at The Metropolitan Opera House hear NYC doing Wagner. My issue with Tarja was that she tended to overdo the operatics on some songs which made them sound weird. Floor doesn't have that problem 'cause she can switch up almost in mid-breath. Floor's performances sound more natural to the flow of the music compared to Tarja's inability to let up from those overly dep tones that she produces. Don't sit there and try to tell me that I don't accurately compare singers. That's all I've been doing as a life long Metal fan. I'll say it again, Floor Jansen is THE Best singer for Nightwish at this stage of their careers.
@Delthfaithe
@Delthfaithe 5 жыл бұрын
Floor is simply better for Nightwish songs. I love some of the other things Anette has done, Nightwish is simply not for her.
@hammerhiem75
@hammerhiem75 5 жыл бұрын
Annette was excellent in the Studio, that wasn't her problem, both albums she recorded on where outstanding.
@bryanthompson973
@bryanthompson973 5 жыл бұрын
People often lose sight of that when stacked next to Floor. I considered Anette to be top tier but when I found out about Floor, I found there was god/goddess tier so it's not even fair.
@Dirtnap1986
@Dirtnap1986 4 жыл бұрын
Studio doesn't mean shit if you sound like shit live!!
@Aurinkohirvi
@Aurinkohirvi 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, you couldn't make Anette good studio singer, if she wasn't a good singer. Was Anette better singing in studio? At least sometimes she was, like she said herself, she used to sing beautiful songs on stage too loud, and they didn't come nice, it took her a lot of expereince to learn that. When you hear her unedited "Ever Dream" demo tape she sings in studio, that's beautiful already back then. Ever Dream demo kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIS3e4uJd9GZo7s
@thecarloschp4784
@thecarloschp4784 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aurinkohirvi Nope...even in the demo she has basic pronunciation issues - which for a native English speaker sounds off - I have the same issues with Tarja very distracting - Floor doesn't have those issues - it could be that Dutch and English are Similar. Also Annette has a very nasal voice which I find off putting.
@Aurinkohirvi
@Aurinkohirvi 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecarloschp4784 I heard reaction video people saying Floor has accent, one thought she is Scandinavian, and in comments people complain same issue as you do now.Well, then you gotta listen them native (level) English speakers. Most of us Europeans don't speak native level English, nor do South Americans, and those are the places where metal is popular.
@martinklaus2203
@martinklaus2203 Жыл бұрын
Finally, I found a channel that isn't afraid to put the singers from Nightwish head to head in a comparison of the same song in one video. Very well done sir, I need to see more of this type of reaction video.
@vir3999
@vir3999 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations you opened a can of worms :P
@VerbalDroppings
@VerbalDroppings 5 жыл бұрын
That was the plan
@ez0950
@ez0950 5 жыл бұрын
@@VerbalDroppings LOL
@michaeldougherty2807
@michaeldougherty2807 5 жыл бұрын
Not really, he didn't do a Tarja to Floor comparison.
@vir3999
@vir3999 5 жыл бұрын
michael dougherty at least there are a minimum of 3 factions amoung the nightwish fans, one is Tarja is irreplaceably. The other is Annett is irreplaceably. The third one is Floor can not replace Tarja. So yes it is a can of worms.
@ScheisseTyranna
@ScheisseTyranna 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, everyone worships floor no questions asked so no worries about worms.
@stups9975
@stups9975 5 жыл бұрын
Annette is ok in the studio...but she struggles live especially on high registers ...Floor is the queen of metal...Floor is simply better . If you compare them with live performances it's not even close. Someone compared them live with the song Everdream and Floor blew the roof off her.
@bobmagnoski8526
@bobmagnoski8526 5 жыл бұрын
If you check out the live versions of the songs with Annette and those with Floor what I find interesting is the body language of the band members. Check Annette doing GLS live, turn the sound down for your own good, watch the band struggle to get through it and check it with Floor and srr the difference in the bands energy. You can see it with Amaranth too, check Tuomas about half way through. What is amazing to me is that Floor had been the vocalist for a short time when the Wacken show was taped, Marko introduces her as a new presence to the crowd. In my opinion GLS was a great song with Tarja but Floor took it to a whole new level, when I hear it with Tarja now it just seems to fizzle at the end not so with Floor.
@altx1978
@altx1978 5 жыл бұрын
@@bobmagnoski8526 Yeah, even the band members have Floorgasms. Check for example Emppu's Floorgasm in the Ghost Love Score Buenos Aires vid at approx. 9:32: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZPVlJmqqcibsKM
@garygwin1741
@garygwin1741 5 жыл бұрын
That's pure ignorance. Ive seen Floor live, and she is unimpressive. Annette is a total Rock Queen. Better Tone, better consistency, and better stage presence!!!
@altx1978
@altx1978 5 жыл бұрын
@@garygwin1741 You can't be serious. I've seen Anette live 3 times. I've seen Floor in both After Forever and Nightwish. And in my opinion, you couldn't be more wrong.
@garygwin1741
@garygwin1741 5 жыл бұрын
Check yourself. Tarja is head and shoulders better and calling anyone else "The queen of metal" is ridiculous. Ive seen over 400 bands in over 27 years of going to metal shows, and Floor's performance was quite average. Then I watched other live shows, and my opinion of her increased, but she is inconsistent and pitchy. Annette has a really solid and consistent tone, does some of the older songs better than Floor, and is just a better singer, period. Ive watched live performances where Annette was very good, and songs like Aramanthe and Bye Bye beautiful are just perfect for her skill set. Elan is the one song that is made for Floor and her style. That is one thing Tuomas is great at, creating songs that compliment his vocalist!!
@mirevolver
@mirevolver 5 жыл бұрын
"No, I lied. I like her version better" as Floor sings the second line of the song. That sums up how many Nightwish fans, including myself feel about every song from Dark Passion Play and Imaginaerum after hearing Floor sing.
@hazeman4755
@hazeman4755 5 жыл бұрын
I like Amaranth and it is my favorite song with Anette. I think she does a decent job, at least in the studio version. However, this was the first time I heard Floor sing this song and it took me maybe 5 seconds to decide I like Floor's version more. What can I say, personally I just think Floor has the superior voice. There are some older Nightwish songs that I might prefer with Tarja's version, maybe because I'm so used to Tarja singing them, but otherwise Floor wins every time. Of course this is my personal preference and others may feel differently.
@Saje3D
@Saje3D 5 жыл бұрын
DPP was my intro to Nightwish. I like Anette okay. She did fine. But Floor? Mind-blowing. IMO.
@tarmotyyri6733
@tarmotyyri6733 5 жыл бұрын
Comparing a studio version and a live version is a bit unfair, but although I also liked Anette as I got bored with Tarja's only classical style of singing, I'm now completely won over by Floor, their Queen of metal, as she can sing in almost any style she chooses, even in the same song.
@DWG1983
@DWG1983 5 жыл бұрын
A bit unfair, true, but if he did listen to both live performances the choice would be even easier, because Anette can't sing live for shit.
@tarmotyyri6733
@tarmotyyri6733 5 жыл бұрын
@@DWG1983 True, I only said that to remind that Floor sings live, in case someone might like Anette's version better.
@mikkolaine4883
@mikkolaine4883 5 жыл бұрын
Overkill1983, actually she can. She sang Nemo without a mistake that Tarja couldn't do.
@K9Trooper
@K9Trooper 5 жыл бұрын
Mikko Laine I disagree. I’ve seen all three singers with Nightwish. I fell in love with the band hearing Tarja. I was excited to hear Annette when I heard Amaranth on the radio, only to be disappointed when I saw them with her. Then I saw Floor and my love for Nightwish was revitalized. Yes comparing live to studio isn’t a true comparison. But, I think when you listen to the studio version, you’re hearing how the song was intended to sound. Thus, the Annette version is better. Side by side live Floor blows Annette’s live version out of the water. But it still feels like something is missing. It isn’t as exciting sounding as the studio.
@magnuscarlsson9969
@magnuscarlsson9969 5 жыл бұрын
@@K9Trooper Well Anette had one huge flaw when it came to live performances. Anette had poor vocal technique to last a full set, she forced some notes trought and stressed her vocals. This can cause lasting impact on the vocal cords, which made her well known for her inconsistency. Anette singing live on a good day sounded great, first time I heard her was during the Dark Passion Play tour and she wasn't bad. However when I saw them during Imaginaerum tour a few years later, you could basicly see how her neck muscles was straining and trying to carry it for her... It don't sound great and are really harmfull for extended periods of time. This was basicly due to her improper vocal technique. The thing is that if Floor or Marko are about to sing a note that don't feel good they just cut it short which may cause one note to go flat, but that's at least safer in the long run... Anette on the other hand pushed it trought, which may work for one gig... but this was a constant for Anette. You can't tour for a year with vocal cords in a constant state of recovery.
@AB-ez4rm
@AB-ez4rm 4 жыл бұрын
Floor commands the crowd. At 9:39 you can see Tuomas with his hands on his head probably thinking Holy Shit and at 9:43 you see Marco with a huge smile.
@wren180
@wren180 5 жыл бұрын
I think each singer brought something different to Nightwish and suited them for the time they were/are part of the band. Mary Z of Voice Hacks has a great break down of each three singers of Nightwish. She explains their approach to singing, tone color ECT. I found it very informative of why Floor seems to adapt to material written for different singers so well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYuWg59noblshrs
@EnigmaTimGaming
@EnigmaTimGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man that made me chuckle: " I think that Annette's studio version is going to sound better than Floor's version." Floor starts singing. 3....2....1.... "OK I was wrong" Her power and dynamism is instant isn't it? There is just no escaping that she dominates that stage and owns the crowd. And then she starts singing!
@squalllionheart3453
@squalllionheart3453 3 жыл бұрын
You cannot ignore her power when she sings
@ryanhalien8468
@ryanhalien8468 5 жыл бұрын
Floor is just better, Annette is a really good singer but it’s totally unfair to compare her to Floor, but it’s unfair to compare almost ANYONE to Floor so that’s no knock on Annette, Floor is just in the elite of the elite when it comes to vocalists
@brendasnow6024
@brendasnow6024 5 жыл бұрын
Marco is the second best singer Nightwish has ever had. Just my personal opinion:)
@hammerhiem75
@hammerhiem75 5 жыл бұрын
The Islander might be Nightwish's best song.
@SrFranciscoDAnconia
@SrFranciscoDAnconia 5 жыл бұрын
Marco is their best vocalist, always has been since he joined.
@maxrav1831
@maxrav1831 3 жыл бұрын
So you're saying Floors 4th?....sorry I forgot about Troy,,,so you're saying Floors 5th?
@brendasnow6024
@brendasnow6024 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxrav1831 Floor is obviously the best singer Nightwish ever had. Marco is their second. Anyone with ears knows this... lol
@fdsannie
@fdsannie 5 жыл бұрын
There really isn't much to say........... It is down to preference. :-)
@andrewludwig9251
@andrewludwig9251 5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. I like both versions
@fdsannie
@fdsannie 5 жыл бұрын
@JS 09 Hahahahahahaha
@ANDZIGCREAM
@ANDZIGCREAM 4 жыл бұрын
All three singers are amazing. But very different styles. My favourite album is Imaginarium and thats an Annette album. So I really don't like people trash talking her performance in Nightwish. She was in the band for a reason. She got picked to sing. With that being said, of course Floor is the best. She is an allround singer while Tarja is more operatic and Annette is more pop/rock. And yes, Nightwish got a totally new sound with Floor and I love it. But as Nightwish lovers, we should never ever take away what Tarja and Annette did for the band. NIGHTWISH FOREVER
@bouzoulll
@bouzoulll 5 жыл бұрын
Only the fact that here we compare a studio version with the same live, shows (for 1 more time) the steel Floor is made of !!!
@Morbitium
@Morbitium 5 жыл бұрын
Anette is a decent singer, but she's like a tuner car with lots of pep while Floor is pure horsepower. She always amazes me every time I find a new performance.
@ZHSCP47
@ZHSCP47 5 жыл бұрын
actually this album was written before Anette joined the band. you can find a demo version of this song with Marco doing the vocals. so Tuomas didn't wrote this to fit Anette singing.
@pmasher
@pmasher 5 жыл бұрын
Imaginaearum was the only one written for Anette.
@MrGoldenred
@MrGoldenred 5 жыл бұрын
You're right but DPP wasn't written for a particular type of voice (classical or more contemporary)and I read that Anette saved this song, it was supposed to be a simple bonus track on the album, but when Anette sang it in the studio the rest of the band was very impressed by her performance and they finally chose it as the second single. So this proves that her voice fits the song perfectly.
@Piia2023
@Piia2023 5 жыл бұрын
Not all of the songs had been written yet for the album, but the songs Tuomas had write was for Tarja.
@music_lover2211
@music_lover2211 4 жыл бұрын
Amaranth belongs just to Anette! This song and Anette made me fell in love with Nightwish! If this song were originally sang by Floor I have not to love that and listen to it! Everyone has own opinion!
@ninau.
@ninau. 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the reaction. I like both, can't and don't even want to choose between 'em.
@ronaldboers8061
@ronaldboers8061 5 жыл бұрын
Yep a win for Floor but was there ever any doubt?
@Aurinkohirvi
@Aurinkohirvi 4 жыл бұрын
There is even disagreement with that statement.
@FluffyLaDooDoo
@FluffyLaDooDoo 4 жыл бұрын
Anette sings it just like the studio version so this song goes with Anettes voice
@NuclearAbyss
@NuclearAbyss 5 жыл бұрын
The thing is that floor has the ability to make a song come life. Unlike some singers that try to make a song their own version, and end up messing it up. Floor just sings the song, with her stage presence and versatile voice ends up making it her own and kills it.
@anacitlalli1528
@anacitlalli1528 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy listening to Annete studio versions, but Floor, is Floor, and she is superb. Now I still listen to Annete in Dark Element :)
@nebucamv5524
@nebucamv5524 5 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, "Amaranth" wasn't written for Annette's voice, cause she wasn't yet in the band at that time. It's on the album "Dark Passion Play", same as Poet and the Pendulum. None of the songs was written for her voice, but I assume that there was still a strong connection to Tarja's voice in Tuomas' mind.
@jimmyboy131
@jimmyboy131 5 жыл бұрын
It's a credit to Tuomas that he wrote such good material with very different singers. As a side note, I have heard that he wanted Floor to be their singer for years before she actually joined them. But she was unavailable, already busy with other bands.
@dangerx7697
@dangerx7697 5 жыл бұрын
That is correct sir! That 6 foot tall Dutch Goddess from the Netherlands... Every song she sings from the Bands Inception, is like a hole more improved song because she makes it her own with emotion. Oh I love me some floor
@jeffreyphipps1507
@jeffreyphipps1507 5 жыл бұрын
Worth noting: *NONE* of the music Floor sang at Wacken was written for her - Floor had only been with Nightwish since October of 2012. If I'm not mistaken (correct me commenters) Wacken was a summer festival (June?).
@marciusnhasty
@marciusnhasty 5 жыл бұрын
Yes he does compose to fit the vocalist. That being said "The Poet And the Pendulum" studio version was made with Anette Olzon, yet nobody recommended you to listen it... ;-)
@pmasher
@pmasher 5 жыл бұрын
I recommend the live version with Anette to people but no one ever does it lol
@Aurinkohirvi
@Aurinkohirvi 4 жыл бұрын
I love Anette's the Poet and the Pendulum! And Tuomas didn't compose Amaranth to Anette. They chose her to their singer after Dark Passion Play album was already composed. Anette sang it better than any other of their over 2000 applicants, they listened almost 2 years, before making their decision. And according to Tuomas, all band voted for Anette.
@JeffHealeyOuro
@JeffHealeyOuro 4 жыл бұрын
I'll say what no one else is going to say: ~ The music was written before anyone in the band had ever heard Anette...but that doesn't mean that it wasn't written for her voice. Anette was selected from a set of 2000-2500 applicants because her voice was recognized as the voice of Nightwish. Think of it like when someone says, "I can't define what porn is, but I know it when I see it." Well, in the case of Anette, it was: "There...that's it! That's her! That's the voice we've been looking for!" (Yes, I know that the high notes on Dark Passion Play were at the very edge of Anette's range and that they corrected that flaw for Imaginaerum.) ~ Tarja and Floor were both hired as acts of convenience. Each woman in her time was selected because they were available and capable when the time came (this is called a "satisficing" decision making strategy). Anette was selected by the genius Tuomas, and the rest of the band, after painstakingly going through thousands of vocalists in order to find the right one (this is called a "maximizing" strategy). It's clear to me that they knew EXACTLY what they were doing at the time. Were it not for the interpersonal problems, the authentic Nightwish (Anette) would still be making fantastic albums. ~ I see that this video was 15 months ago. Nightwish fandom groupthinkers have hated Anette since the beginning since she totally changed the vocal sound of the band. It's difficult for people to get past that when listening to Anette live. They'll tell you that she's horrible. That's just gaslighting, usually in reverse order: they tell you that she's horrible before you hear her, then you project "horrible" onto her because it's difficult to go against the crowd...and this crowd, in particular, is...vicious. ~ I love Floor. The awesomeness of Floor is what brought me into the band. I was obsessed for months...but slowly, ever so slowly, Anette became my favorite of the three Nightwish singers (I love and appreciate Tarja as well), including live. Wacken 2008 (available on KZbin) is my favorite Nightwish show...yes, even above Wacken 2013...yes, even above Tampere. I personally think that Amaranth loses its magic with Floor singing and that it'd be wise of them to keep it off of the set list. There are other songs much better suited for Floor's talents. ~ “Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions." --Albert Einstein ~ Happy Nightwishing!
@FelycitySky
@FelycitySky 5 жыл бұрын
I loved Anette´s Version much but Floor put the song to a whole ´nother level. Her Voice and Acting, I CAN´T get enough of her!
@dennisweifenbach2647
@dennisweifenbach2647 3 жыл бұрын
Actually an easy choice. A live concert experience is much better. It just brings out another level of brilliance. Floor is just fantastic, that's it. I don't hate any of the three, I just prefer Floor overwhelmingly. Queen Floor, the Valkyrie Nordic Warrier Goddess is just superior period. The 80,000+ backup singers are great also. Tuomas is completely enjoying himself too.
@lakelili
@lakelili 5 жыл бұрын
I love listening to how the different singers handle the same song. The prime example is the difference between how Tarja and Floor each handled "Ghost Love Score". Both are live versions.
@MountainMetal
@MountainMetal 5 жыл бұрын
Well, first off, zooming rapidly in and out like we saw in the... pop music video version was supposed to die with the summer of love at Altamont in 1970, effectively half a century ago. I mean, please remove the children from the editing controls. Yeesh. Secondly, to my ears, Annette sounded like a thousand other pop singers, and live, um, to say she 'struggled' is putting it pretty kindly. Rated where it really matters in lady-fronted symphonic and folk metal today, which is (especially, but not limited to) power, versatility, charisma, stage presence and command of the audience, Floor is in a whole 'nother league. Poor Annette is not a metal singer by today's standards. She's a pop singer and strictly for studio work where they can do enough electronic magic to make it sound okay. Great reactions, mate.
@fernbap
@fernbap 5 жыл бұрын
Simply put, Nightwish is more Nightwish with Floor
@oms68
@oms68 5 жыл бұрын
Sort of a no-brainer this one. If you want it difficult compare Ever Dream - live at wacken vs. end of an era
@cree_VI
@cree_VI 5 жыл бұрын
you are totally right. Annette have average vocals and in that song she sings so monotonically and if you will watch any live her performance, her voice range don't let to sing old songs and her stage presence is like what ever... So you can imagine how fans feel when after queen came girl from the village. And now Floor give a new life for a band and to old fans
@Polentaccio
@Polentaccio 3 жыл бұрын
I like the original better and a lot of the tunes written on that album were written around anette's voice so goes to show how incredible the band is. Floor era is the best stuff overall though. She's a beast.
@jessicadon4133
@jessicadon4133 5 жыл бұрын
I feel really bad for Annette. Its true, perhaps she wasn't a good fit for nightwish, however I got into nightwish when she was in it. I could never get into Tarjas songs on their own. But Annette is a good singer in her own right. I love floor for her versatility and just because she's an all round powerhouse goddess :) Anyways... I subscribed to your chanel 2 days for all the nightwish reactions that you do... Keep em up :)
@Piia2023
@Piia2023 5 жыл бұрын
As Nightwish is a live band and Anette couldn't live up to the songs live, she somehow manage to do two amazing studio albums. But Floor is a gueen out there on the stage, both vocally and stage presence. But Anette had her songs written for her like Scaretale, Slow Love Slow, Turn Loose The Mermaids, Eva, one of my favorite Nightwish songs, songs worth checking out.
@ninau.
@ninau. 5 жыл бұрын
I agree :) I love 'Eva', such a beautiful song. Dark Passion Play is very important album to me, listened to it million times.
@Aurinkohirvi
@Aurinkohirvi 5 жыл бұрын
I would kill for good quality live songs of any you mention But there aren't any! Slow Love Slow video from Montreaux with muffled audio, is as I have found the best of the crap quality bunch. Nightwish totally blew Tarja and Anette era for not having great quality live videos! The only one is Phantom of the Opera from Tarja, and Nemo with decent sound quality. Doesn't help selling old albums but maybe they don't care.
@HiljaisetAskeleet
@HiljaisetAskeleet 5 жыл бұрын
I have mixed thoughts. I like chorus better in the Anette's version, but in verses Floor is much more in the same ballpark with the music. Anette's voice is very bright, that kind of tone requires certain type of songs. Obviously pop songs, but also musicals, AOR, jazz... she also shines in "Catherdral Walls" by Swallow the Sun - oddly, because it's melancholic death doom metal.
@saga0796
@saga0796 4 жыл бұрын
Just watch Marco's and Tuomas face when the crowd are following floor's commands.. their like holy f..... yes she's the one..
@bouzoulll
@bouzoulll 5 жыл бұрын
Its nice when you are at the studio and you have unlimited times to make the song right but when at live you only have THAT ONE time to sing it, so Floor for me, (love Annete tho and he tried hard to "steer" the hearts of the peeple.
@arnaldotanta3630
@arnaldotanta3630 5 жыл бұрын
its not fair . we can't compare anette with floor . annette is like a Mercedes , ok its good and the song was writen for her , but floor is a rolls royce she has everything in double . nightwish is a band made for tarja and conquered by floor, sorry but anette don't belong to this league .tarja and floor are in a higher level .
@Enderu666
@Enderu666 5 жыл бұрын
The song wasn't written for Annette. Marco even sings the demo version because they hadn't yet picked a singer.
@randar1969
@randar1969 4 жыл бұрын
Nightwish deserved Floor and Floor deserved Nightwish bring them together and they both seem to perform even better as they enhance each other to an higher level.
@TheStefan6969
@TheStefan6969 5 жыл бұрын
God imagine if Floor did the studio version and had all of the vocal texture layering they did for Anette on her (Floor's) already stronger Rock vocals!!! 🤘 Wow
@SteelwaterVideos
@SteelwaterVideos 5 жыл бұрын
I love that Floor didn't fall into the trap some many other singers do when singing a song that was wrote for a different singer. She didn't try to copy Annette, so said F it, and owned that shit making it her own version. Great reaction.
@dieseldog00
@dieseldog00 3 жыл бұрын
Yes of course that song was written for Anette. She was the frontwoman for 6 years after Tarja was let go. Anette was the "Pop Princess" and frankly I like her voice on the pop songs. What she didn't have the voice for were the Tarja songs which as you know were the Symphonic Soprano songs. For one of the best examples of Tarja's great voice try 'Swanheart' live which is early Nightwish. Then Anette fell ill in 2012(so they say idk)and Tuomas reached out to Floor who he had worked with before. She was recovering from a nervous breakdown and was not sure she was ready for another gig but they worked it out and the rest is history being written. Floor's great talent is redoing a song a little bit to how she hears it, especially Ghost Love Score's ending, Tuomas' epic masterpiece. She did it in rehearsal and Tuomas liked it so he said yes do it like that.(I hope I got everything in this paragraph right. If not, the Army will hang me).
@wesleyvega6750
@wesleyvega6750 4 жыл бұрын
I think Floor is more complete singer than Annette, but Annette own this song. That chorus is one of the most catchy that I ever heard because Annette's voice.
@voodjin
@voodjin 4 жыл бұрын
Then hear to it live with Anette, it will cure your delusion. You're in love with a heavily tuned studio, which Anette never will be able to repeat live.
@maxmattt
@maxmattt 5 жыл бұрын
I feel exactly the same way, Floor absolutely owns it.
@rickphil9999
@rickphil9999 2 жыл бұрын
Just as the Valkyrie Goddess does everything. Floor killed it. She manipulates the crowd with her stage presence like no other.
@mikelfox1543
@mikelfox1543 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing up the problem with getting ugly about different singers. I personally like Floor best but they are all FANTASTIC singers and have had their influence in the band. The fact that they have hels such quality for over 20 years says so much about the band as a whole, and Tuomas amazing musicality.
@speedygonzales7147
@speedygonzales7147 5 жыл бұрын
Annette can reach Tarja or Floor only in the studio and with autotune! You compared a studio version with a live performance. Floor kicks ass even without autotune!
@whirledpeaz5758
@whirledpeaz5758 5 жыл бұрын
I am thankful to Tuomas and Annette for Amaranth because they and the Imaginerium Album hooked me on Nightwish. Tarja on Phantom of the Opera and Planet Hell reeled me in. Floor Waken 2013 landed me like a big fat trout.
@jeffreyphipps1507
@jeffreyphipps1507 5 жыл бұрын
The video is based on a painting that Tuomas had seen.
@alexojeda9048
@alexojeda9048 5 жыл бұрын
Tuomas does write for his singers. He's said that in an interview when discussing the debut album Angels Fall first and why the music on that album sounds so flat compared to the rest. When he wrote that album, Tarja wasn't in the band yet so it was more of a generic arrangement if you will. Once the album was released and he heard her voice he was like amazed at how she sounded and wrote appropriately for her voice on subsequent albums. Annette has a high, brassy, Pop style voice so the music wasn't as bombastic compare to the previous album Once. Floor, who was a know commodity at the time singing for After Forever and ReVamp, has a similar style to Tarja but with much more power and more of a Rock, not Pop, style mixed in with her operatic voice. Listen to the self-entitled album After Forver to hear Floor at her peak.
@trinxikene
@trinxikene 5 жыл бұрын
"I lied, I Like Floor's version better." ... this shit still makes me laugh! Thanks for that. I actually like Amaranth as a song, both Anette's version and Floors. Anette is not actually a bad singer. Her solo stuff is suprisingly good. But Floor just slays everything she does :) I agree with you in that :D Im glad you are still doing NW reactions! :D keep em going! :D
@garygwin1741
@garygwin1741 5 жыл бұрын
You Floor lovers are totally biased and ridiculous. Floor is in no way in the same league as Annette. Tarja is wayyyy better than either of them.
@trinxikene
@trinxikene 5 жыл бұрын
@@garygwin1741 Tarja is good but very boring.
@thecarloschp4784
@thecarloschp4784 4 жыл бұрын
@@garygwin1741 Can I recommend a good hearing aid !!
@JerMaxx-zo3px
@JerMaxx-zo3px 2 жыл бұрын
Pop in real quick to say it's okay to have favorites. But what's not okay is insulting, hating on singers, and comparing them with the purpose of bringing one or more of them down. Do not start an argument by saying which one is your fav while talking shit on other singers. Music is meant to be entertaining, and that's what the singers are doing. They have never done anything to you, it's not a civilize human act to disrespect them. Of course their voices aren't gonna be the same but if you don't like any of them, just don't state your opinion at all. Because some of the fans do read comment section while listening, and it does bring down the experience of listening. It's not a competition, they are friends, what will you think if people start trash talking you when you're with friends? They're human too, doing what they love. They don't deserve this. Be reminded that even if people can't see your face, that doesn't give you the rights to act like douchebags. They don't even compare themselves, stop thinking for them, how is that make you a good fan by doing that? Start enjoying music for it being music. No matter who the singer is, like reading books, I will always see something in it. I don't have favorites since I listen to all of them, but I do prefer some songs sung by a certain singer more. Still, it's very low to bring singers down in order to lift certain ones up. Edit: if you're gonna tell me it's okay to trash talk them because they're not gonna see it anyway, do you insult your dead relatives that you weren't close friends with? Spit on their graves maybe? Or stealing something from public thinking no one is gonna need it anyway or it's not that important? If no, then why don't you start doing it since it's the same thing with trash talking singers?
@stephencooper1266
@stephencooper1266 5 жыл бұрын
I think your opinion is spot on
@similartracks
@similartracks 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for this man... pretty sure the band was trying to get far away from Tarja as possible when they hired Annette..pretty sure she lasted 5yrs and 2 albums..
@stevel4265
@stevel4265 5 жыл бұрын
Nice I liked this …. my thoughts both are real good … when I really want to hear what a vocalist and band are about ... Live is always so much better; Floor has such command and feel …
@CapitanDePlai
@CapitanDePlai 4 жыл бұрын
Watch Tuomas when Floor sings and you'll have your answer
@Dreamweaver1963
@Dreamweaver1963 4 жыл бұрын
You should compare live to live. Floor is consistent without aid
@voodjin
@voodjin 4 жыл бұрын
People who think Anette's version is better, most likely never heard her sing it live. It sounds like cheap karaoke and she can't hit a ton to save her live. They just tuned the shit out of the official video to make it sound perfect, but the sad truth is, she never can't sing it like this live - Floor can.
@jamesseiler5078
@jamesseiler5078 5 жыл бұрын
Well floor is my favorite but that being said I really like all 3 of the vocalists and the imaginaerum is one of my very favorites, that introduced me to nightwish.
@pigletphilosophy8057
@pigletphilosophy8057 2 жыл бұрын
The real comparison is between Tarja and floor and I do love the albums that they recorded with Anette.
@operatori
@operatori 5 жыл бұрын
The upside-down thing about studio and album versions is that they are recorded before the tour, when the band and singer actually learn how to perform the new material. To work around this paradox, bands have been releasing live concert recordings. Comparing studio and live doesn't really work. It's like comparing apples to cider. I'm not a fan of Anette. Her being Swedish did cause some uproar in Finland. Let alone the change in vocal style. I'm not a hater, but now that Floor has come in, people have renewed their thrust in the band. Anette couldn't sing some of the old material, but Floor can.
@mrlomrlo7353
@mrlomrlo7353 3 жыл бұрын
It was anette that got me into nightwish but i grew to like songs from all 3. Tarja songs operatic, creates such an atmosphere Anette songs light fun makes me smile (doesnt need to be powerful) Floor can do both but adds more power Everyone has their favorite singer and song, not sure how comparing a music vid with a live performance works but anyhow. Bye bye beautiful, amaranth are well above 100m views so we cant diss her for not being good at operatic, metal styles of singing, she increased the nightwishs popularity. Plus remember who hired her, she didnt hire herself Peace alll
@petehartley809
@petehartley809 5 жыл бұрын
Well there you go. Nightwish are now a complete band, at long last. Tarja was one dimensional, Annette was weak and Floor is just about the most underrated Female Vocalist out there. There is nothing she can't sing and yet unless you are into Nightwish or were into ReVamp, After Forever or Northward hardly anyone will know of her. Technically Floor is a Genius. From her Deep Growls to her Emotional Soprano, Floor Jansen is just Absolutely Fabulous.
@Aurinkohirvi
@Aurinkohirvi 4 жыл бұрын
Actually Tarja sang with operatic, classic (but not operatic) and contemporary style in Nightwish, and all well. Floor sings almost completely just contemporary style, even the old classical songs (like Deep Silent Complete, Wishmaster and 10th Man Down for example). And Floor's singing voice is so monotoneus, I choose some songs from Anette just because her voice is livelier and has more different colours, like "The Siren", "Sahara", "Storytime" and the "Poet and the Pendulum" for example. And then there are songs where Anette just is better all over, like "Slow Love Slow", "Scaretale" and "The Crow, The Owl And The Dove".
@danellwein8679
@danellwein8679 3 жыл бұрын
i must be crazy ... but i thoroughly enjoyed Anette's version of this song ...
@jeffreyneas9510
@jeffreyneas9510 Жыл бұрын
I'll take Floor most of the time. But this studio version is for me Annette's best song. This version is in my top 10 of all Nightwish songs.
@J_Halcyon
@J_Halcyon 5 жыл бұрын
Annette has a very pop sound, and Dark Passion Play was partly written without a vocalist IIRC so it wound up a little generic. Toumas absolutely writes for his vocalists and Annette's voice didn't quite mesh well with the heavier instrumentation that Nightwish is best at despite her being a talented vocalist. Her initial reception wasn't helped by the drastic shift to her from Tarja's operatic vocal style. But Floor is in another league altogether. Take a look at "Please Learn the setlist in 48 hours" to get a picture of how she and Nightwish first hooked up, it's well worth the watch.
@zenleto
@zenleto 5 жыл бұрын
Anette’s strongest work with Nightwish is with the songs from Imaginaerum, which were written for her voice. She brings a pop vocal style which works better for Imaginaerum rather than anything else. I like all the singers, they all brought something. Unfortunately Anette wasn’t up to it live apparently. Floor is magnificent live.
@stacylamay1490
@stacylamay1490 5 жыл бұрын
Annette was a complete departure from the style of Tarja. I think she did an excellent job in studio, but she didn't own the stage live the way Floor does. Floor can sing pop, rock, growls, heavy metal, opera, and who knows what else. Floor is a keeper!
@donaldcampbell9483
@donaldcampbell9483 5 жыл бұрын
Plus her head banging...that hair just spinning around...damn she's hot
@oscarsalazar1957
@oscarsalazar1957 5 жыл бұрын
Those two girls are amazing but if i have to choose one, i think I'll choose floor she is so versatil and she can sings the 80 % of nigthwish songs and that is too much good.
@TammoKis
@TammoKis 5 жыл бұрын
Some background of the "Angel " : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wounded_Angel
@taup184
@taup184 5 жыл бұрын
To your comment about Tuomas writing for the vocalists: that is true with one exception. Dark Passion Play (Amaranth is on DPP) as most of the songs were written before they found Annette. She does a decent job on that record, but she really shines on Imaginaerum as the songs were written for her. Imaginaerum is considered by many Nightwish fans to be their best overall record even though it features their weakest vocalist.
@michaelbarry8005
@michaelbarry8005 4 жыл бұрын
Power isn't everything, but it sure helps!
@LuciFer---666
@LuciFer---666 5 жыл бұрын
Annette is pop singer - Floor is multi skilled metal singer. In my opinion we can compare Tarja and Floor and still Floor is best female vocalist ever, but Tarja is a bit better skilled in classic music.
@corbintaylor5503
@corbintaylor5503 5 жыл бұрын
This song is from Dark Passion Play, the album that also had Poet and the Pendulum. Annette was good at the time, and you are correct that they write for the singer, but it still made me miss the Tarja era. Floor makes the Anette era songs her own, and made them better. To use the example above, Poet and the Pendulum was fantastic on the album, but it didn't give quite as much punch to me as having Floor do it, giving it that extra emotion and bite it needed. Annette though did have more emotion in her voice than Tarja though, to be fair to her. My biggest complaint about Tarja was that she didn't really use her voice to express emotion, save for a few rare cases (e.g Angels Fall First). Annette, while having the tendency to emote more, unfortunately just didn't have the voice for the band, the lack of power incredibly obvious with often sounding lost in the sound (e.g the end of Storytime).
@elwansaillant9752
@elwansaillant9752 5 жыл бұрын
You should try Scaretale by Nightwish with Annette this is probably the best song with her !
@johnsimpson2372
@johnsimpson2372 5 жыл бұрын
I think you are right, he wrote for the vocalist. This is why, although I really like Tarja and her current music, Floor allows Tuomas a wider palette.
@buffmaloney
@buffmaloney 5 жыл бұрын
Annette studio singing was fine, until I heard Floor. It's no contest.
@theotherside9999
@theotherside9999 3 жыл бұрын
I skipped most of Anette. Floor gives me goosebumps.
@haukikannel
@haukikannel 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Tuomas is like tailor who makes hand made suit to lead singer! The song fits best to the original singer! Floor is so,where between Tarja and Anet so she has the easiest job to get those old songs sound reasonable good and she Kills those where Tuomas has made the suit just for her!
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