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This week on Family Matters With Jo Frost, Jo is talking to one family which seemed to double in size overnight and another family where the mum was so protective over her son that the dad hasn’t been able to bond with him.
Family conflicts are usually kept behind closed doors - until now. Fresh from her role in Supernanny, Jo Frost brings her experience to a new talk show format.
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[@cherylpgh9155]

We get what’s wrong with him-his Mom who has an endless list of excuses for his behavior. He barely talks for himself. Why is she explaining his health issues, how he felt, their fights? Madness.

[@VisibleMajority]

Sad little excuse for a man. Mommas boy can’t speak up and take responsibility. I don’t blame her for kicking him out 👍

[@krazyworld6433]

Right. I hate moms like her.

[@MillennialMountainMama]

@@krazyworld6433 Narcissistic mother’s create narcissistic sons more often then not. Such a shame!

[@croberts4587]

@@krazyworld6433 she's a drinker as well, can tell.

[@annephillips1870]

@@croberts4587 Totally agree. The blood vessels tell a lot.

[@impracticalsewing7071]

Lee doesn't need to take his kids out all the time. He's talking about spending money, but he could literally just sit at home with them & those kids would love it.

[@greer545]

She wont let him, because she want to be home alone to have a bath without their noise.

[@tipoftheicebergicy6448]

Greer and you can’t blame her for that can you?

[@pansprayers]

@@greer545 so... Do you expect her to be shackled to them all day while he gets to do whatever he wants whenever he wants? What's your rationale for that?

[@zeldagoblin]

Listening to this dad is like hearing my ex husband talk. Can't take them out because I've no money...i once told him my ultimate dream would be me looking out of the window seeing him kicking a ball about with his two boys. He told me that was a fairytale.

[@MillennialMountainMama]

@@zeldagoblin He is not a man or a father! How horrible! 🤗 I went through something similar. What an awful thing to say he sounds like a monster and like my ex husband too. The key word here is “ex”

[@nixeradicatus]

The only thing worse than a deadbeat dad, is a deadbeat dad's mother. It's usually pretty easy to see where the problem came from.

[@BubblyJubbly]

If there’s one thing worse than a deadbeat father, it’s a deadbeat father’s mother.

[@nadamisad]

Omg my blood is boiling seeing and listening to Lees mother... She's a MONSTER in this family. I hope someone actually read the comments to her so she understands she destroyed her precious little boy who is never going to become man...

[@pansprayers]

Yeah, she's the UK version of my EX-MIL. Girl needs to be happy he's gone and find her own happiness.

[@joanstevens5989]

I completely agree with you

[@lynnwilliams8295]

nadamisad me too. Reminds me of my ex and his mother. She always blames everyone for her sons bad behavior. Glad I’m rid of. Them both

[@lynnwilliams8295]

EDS Wanderlust Fairy me too! Carbon copy of my ex and his mother.

[@kathleenpapaleo253]

Exactly. An evil woman. Jealous of any woman getting close to her "man". Totally dysfunctional.

[@amymoore8140]

He is an absolute narcissist. Don't listen to his enabling mother. He's just another child you have to raise. Stand your ground love.

[@chrisjury6931]

Hey just calling you out on this one. If you think so I doubt you have ever known a true narcissist. He's not one. These two adults might understand the other more if they walked in each others shoes for 3 months..it is not easy for either of them and the kids are stuck in the middle of it, I think the main issue is wider family support because there are fractures in the entire family unit. People completely miss the point that despite what we think, those kids need their connection to their natural parents and they need to believe in their parents to be validated...but Jo got it....for destroy dad for instance and you also destroy a great part of those kids egos - they love him and he is part of them. So calling dad a narcissist also condemns the children - and they'd dislike you for it absolutely. Yes we, the KZbin public, want him to do better, but be realistic with what mountain needs to be climbed recovering after being kicked out from the family home and family life by his partner (for unsaid reasons) - Can you even imagine what that might feel like? 1 day out of 7 you get to live your family life while 6 out of 7 you're alone and just work...and all that effort results in a handful of loose change....why, it might just drive one to drink and we see often that it does...it is a traumatic hopeless place. But this is real life not fairyland where stories involve people who have never encountered real struggle and hardship. Have a heart, and watch the labeling - for it might hurt people.

[@amymoore8140]

@@chrisjury6931 I was married to one for 10 years... Oh and also raised by one. So nice try. You just sound like another narcissist trying to defend bad behavior to deflect your own guilt.

[@MillennialMountainMama]

@@amymoore8140 Exactly! 🤗 kudus to you and we have similar stories and that’s why I cringe watching this guy he is so disgusting 🤮

[@jeanieolahful]

Why do you have five kids with this guy? I just don’t get it.

[@julierobinson3633]

He is a working class man working very long hours six days a week to support his five kids and ex wife. She is wanting 'me time' but doesn't want him to have any - on his one day off work she wants him to be providing the child care. They both made five kids and both should be caring for and paying for them, but it didn't mention how many hours a week she works?

[@krystalTiger]

Very interesting to watch. Had no idea Jo had a show!? But I do wish something had been said about his Mother’s attitude, far out!!

[@xeniajola]

Yes! She demands things of the mom.... but she doesnt help her son when her grandkids are with him... When it is raining or bad wether he has to go to an indoor playground or to his moms house (ex grandmother) and not takr over the house of mom. He has no ground to go in...

[@xeniajola]

Also over his hospital it doesnt matter. He is not her kid but her ex husband

[@kimberlysymonds7517]

Lee’s mom is an enabler. She is justifying her son not spending quality time his kids. 2 hours once a week is NOT being a parent!!!!!! Lee needs to step up & spend all day with his kids If the 5 kids want to sleep over at daddy’s. Then they should go over Saturday evening. Then he can do bedtime with all 5 kids & then return the kids home after dinner on the Sunday... That’s a full 24 hours with them & they get a sleep over Also it’s not the moms responsibility to provide a place for dad to spend time with HIS kids. Dad can go out after work the rest of the week... but he needs to give his kids 1 Full day per week

[@KiraHunter2310]

Yes! My eldest is 11 and her dad does nothing for her. Doesnt pay or take her out or spend time with her, never has. His mum see my girl and her 3 half siblings that hes gone on to father from two other women, takes them out on trips, buys them xmas and bday gifts as he doesnt. He doesnt work or anything yet his mum has said to me that she thinks hes doing enough! When I told her that her son, my girls dad, threatened to call social services on me because I allowed her to play a game older than her age, she didnt say anything! My mum would of be disgusted at his behaviour if it was my brother doing all this. I hate mothers who think theirs have the sun shining out of their arses.

[@Beankean307]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@margarita4641]

Podeis traducirlo por favor

[@MegCazalet]

@@KiraHunter2310 like Chris Watts’ mom, ugh.

[@mikivanduyn9630]

My ex-son in law takes his kids every 2 weeks from fryday until sunday... Birthdays are spend as a family.... And my house is a always a nuteral place whenever they feel like to see eachother... Yes it took some time to come this far,but my grandbabys are happy and responsible children,because we put the kids in first,instead of ourselfs...

[@dawndesacia3785]

Leaving her car at the pub was unbelievable!!! Really puts her in a fix to hav to go get it with 5 fricken kids in tow.... HORRIBLE....what a prik!!!

[@allymarie5442]

I agree

[@MillennialMountainMama]

Yep! 👍

[@ella-maefarnsworth5600]

Little update for you all. The kids are now 18, 16, 13, 12 and 10 now. Bradlee just got his first A* in his GCSE’s. Lee didn’t stick to what we agreed on the show. He did for the first two weeks, then slipped back to his old ways. He has now got his own house and has Poppy every other weekend and some of the others If they choose to go which isn’t very often because they all like to do their own thing now. I let go of my anger towards Lee and got on with being the best Mum I could be. Lee and I are in a good place now we can communicate like adults and are friendly with each other. With regards to why I had 5 kids with him… I was told I couldn’t conceive and wouldn’t be able to have children. I was born to be a Mum I love being a Mum. I wanted to make my marriage work, I wanted to raise my children with Mum and Dad at home…. It took me a while and I had to build the confidence to end it but I knew it was the right thing to do for them. I have no regrets. I’ve come to terms with the fact that Lee will never be the Dad I want him to be but it’s not about what I want it’s about what the kids want so I stay focussed on that. Finally for the comments about me working…… YES I was working when all 5 children were born so although Lee was working 6 days a week so was I then I was doing EVERYTHING for the home, the children and Lee when I would get home from work. I only stopped working when I couldn’t afford the childcare bill on my own.

[@dignaoviedo5917]

Be proud of yourself, you've done plenty, and as your children age they will appreciate all you did.

[@wchas5702]

Fair Play to you

[@wchas5702]

You're very pretty too

[@rubberdc]

When my parents split up , our dad took us up to his parents , and on the way not only asked all sorts of questions relating to what Mum was doing , but popped into at least 2 betting shops , we ended up at our grandparents and played outside while HE , watched the racing on tv. we never made it to the pub .

[@nunnayrbznz3576]

"She used him?" What for? To be a single mom with 5 young children? The 6 th Adult Child added to that.Lee's mom is an awful woman. How did he try to get backwith her if he doesn't even have time for his kids. SHE doesn't need a huge drunk baby added to her responsibility. So he works 6 days a week, drinking 7 days a week, living at mommy's house. Doesn't think itsa problem to have the kids at the pub for hours...AH!

[@yvettewilliams4893]

And let's not forget about him being too drunk to even drive once he & the KIDS are in the pub!!

[@ella-maefarnsworth5600]

My point too! Thank you for your support. We are all doing great.

[@kizpaws]

Jo Frost is amazing! She's spot on with identifying children's issues, as well as being able to encourage both parents to stop thinking about themselves and THEIR issues, but focus on what is best for their children. Good luck to this family.

[@Tarotlynx]

Used him? Idiot. That would require that she got something out of him. I don't think she'd get anything from him except excuses. And once she's broken up with him, him going to the hospital is not her problem. She's got five kids to take care of. No, she shouldn't have slapped him like that, but seeing their father constantly drunk from the pub isn't healthy, either. The woman is exhausted and needs some break time for herself.

[@VictoriaGabrealla]

I’m so freaking late! Like when did Jo get her own show besides the nanny!! I’m here for it!! I love her!

[@LanaLeon]

Same girl! haha 2 years after you but here I am :)

[@charliecharlton9782]

How very sad. So many people in this world cannot have children and here are five beautiful babies with a loser dad and a mom who should not have brought 5 kids into an unhappy relationship. The mother in law is an enabling B and the result of her own mothering is seen in the mamma's boy she has raised.

[@yvettewilliams4893]

Well although her (5) kids were brought into a questionable situation that may not have been toxic back then, but became that way over time...Even so whatever her decision, her kids are here and she's trying to be both parents bcoz let's face it, their father isn't really gonna do any more than he's already done and as long as his parents defend his bad behavior & not call him out on his taking their grandkids in the pub on the only day he does have to be with em, so Nikki needs to continue to push on & take care of her kids!

[@ella-maefarnsworth5600]

I don’t regret not 1 of my children, when we were having the kids we were good. The more kids the more pressure it got too much

[@poppyblack3356]

In short: Manchild got married, not able to take responsibilty. Has five children with wife. Seperation. Trouble. Mother in law , a disappointed dragon.

[@gabe-po9yi]

She probably cut Lee loose because it was like having a sixth child. Look at him sitting there while his mama speaks for him, defending everything he does and flat out lying. Expecting his wife to take complete care of him and the five children while he was in the hospital, after they’d split up, no less. It’s no wonder he never grew up.

[@julierobinson3633]

A 'sixth child' who WORKS SIX DAYS A WEEK! He is working himself to death, getting home late etc to pay for five kids and an ex. And yes, so he should, but it's a bit rough to then act like he's doing nothing.

[@gabe-po9yi]

@@julierobinson3633 What does working SIX DAYS A WEEK have to do with maturity level? Just because he works SIX DAYS A WEEK doesn’t mean it’s okay on his day off to spend six hours of the daytime in a bar.

[@deborahromilly2766]

When you have children you've given up personal time, they need all you've got and than some.

[@ella-maefarnsworth5600]

If only Lee knew that 🙄

[@mutoidliz2320]

Lee is still acting like a child free teenager.I didn’t get any help with the baby for months until I broke down and stormed out the house in tears!.I get a bit more help now!

[@jelica9475]

They are not on the same page about anything when it comes to the children. Now they are apart the kids need priority, it always breaks my heart when children are seen as just work. They are a blessing, if you don't enjoy your children there is a serious issue!

[@dominewimbury2039]

Stop drinking Lee. Just like my dad. He was there but then he wasn't. Feel sorry for them kids. PRIORITIES ARE MEANT TO BE YOUR KIDS NOT THE BLEEDIN PUB

[@patchthecat]

I am sorry you had to deal with this growing up:( i did not, but as a teen, i had a two year relationship with a boy whose dad did relapse with severe alcoholism after a ten year period of sobriety. It was BAD. i witnessed the absolute DEVASTATION that befell that family within a short period of time and it was just mind-blowing how fast everything changed for the worse.

[@dominewimbury2039]

@@patchthecat thanks hun. It's now caused my mum and dad to divorce 🙄

[@patchthecat]

@@dominewimbury2039 aw:( that is very sad for sure, but I personally try to remember that EVERYTHING..even what is the worst seeming stuff...happens for a REASON. u dont always have the reason come clear to u right away...or as soon as u want it to...but it usually does.

[@JulieKernit1]

VERY WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOD ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@julianbrisner4560]

At the end (around 42:25) Jo Frost says something about the dad being able to come over and BABYSIT.. sorry Jo, but a father watching and caring for his children, whether it be at the children's mothers house or somewhere else, is NOT called babysitting. That is called being a PARENT.

[@grey-sg3nv]

It's pretty much babysitting

[@donnareiss124]

Courtney Carruthers it is. for life. ahhhhh.

[@liamhoogendoorn1652]

Ok, but effectively, he isn't parenting, he's babysitting

[@emmieelizabeth908]

This man is not a father. Any man who knowingly takes their children into a place where they shouldn’t be and seems to be addicted to drinking is not a father.

[@Tarotlynx]

@@emmieelizabeth908 I have to agree. He seems to be a borderline drunk rather than a parent. And that mother of his is living in total denial. At least that kind of child, Nikki can divorce.

[@julierobinson3633]

Nicky: "I have no me time!". Yes love, that's what happens when you have five kids!

[@mlynn9361]

right away "what you want me to take them out all day and spend money..." dude, spending time together isnt the same as taking them out... sit at home and play a game, watch a movie... be there reading a book while they do homework, ffs.

[@carolwong1456]

This just shows a lack of imagination, not willingness, to spend the time with the kids!

[@ginnied7346]

Ahh poor baby boy he's got to get his mummy on the show so she can tell everyone how wicked his horrible mean ex is, even though his ex is the one struggling to raise his children, her grandchildren, you know what bloody planet does she live on to think her boy is even a good dad never mind a fantastic dad, and yes he may work to provide for his children but his children need more of him than that

[@MillennialMountainMama]

It’s called narcissist abuse, reactive abuse, gaslighting, smearing, guilt tripping, unaccountability with his flying monkeys. Good for her for leaving him!

[@ella-maefarnsworth5600]

Thank you so much for seeing it for exactly what it was

[@patriciakelly69]

I’m a mother and I know it’s not easy. When the dad has the children it’s difficult to entertain them when he has no home of his own. Finding places when the weather is bad is difficult. If he’s supporting them and he’s working that is admirable. If they communicate with each other it would benefit the whole family. Hopefully it will work out. Good luck to you both. X

[@schnaftipufti]

Can't the man talk for himself instead of his mom defending an adult?

[@jeanniegherardi2720]

Lee's mom needs to back off!! She is only thinking about her son and NOT her grandkids!!

[@MedusasPenalty]

I watched only the first 15 minutes now and all I think is, what do you expect if you chose an emotionally unavailable man as father for your children?! It's as if you're asking a banana becoming an apple, it's physically not possible. Even if this man would understand a hint of what he's doing to his children, he has nothing in himself to change it. The world needs much more people like Jo getting to the point with parents like that and confront them with their irresponsible behavior!

[@fergieingrid2521]

Lee she left because she would rather take care of 5 kids that an having to look after 6 where one of them is a grown up adult.

[@monicarodrigues985]

Nikki did the right thing she used to have 5 children and one big baby. I would promote contact with the grandparents but not with the father, he's a terrible example. Especially for the boys. He's mother doesn't talk about the kids at all, it's all about her mama's boy.

[@zlatkajupe]

Another grown man who either needs his wife or mommy to take care of him pathetic

[@christina2311]

I think Lee never really wanted to have kids. I think he wanted a wife and nothing else.

[@nadamisad]

I agree. My vision is he thought the more children she had with him, the safer he could feel she won't leave him. Cause c'mon, it took courage from her to make the decision to become a single parent of 5!

[@MillennialMountainMama]

Spot on!

[@joienecula9843]

I do t feel that the children should be shown on t.v. That just might create a war in future years

[@erin9110]

He wanted a doormat

[@ella-maefarnsworth5600]

I love all the comments saying I should have let Lee in my home because he paid for it??? Where are you all getting he paid for my home??? NO HE DID NOT.

[@rayb.6345]

People can be rude, put your confidence in Jesus (proverbs 3v26), and know that you did the best you could at the time. To go onto tv in order to get help was really brave. It’s easy to judge and snicker behind a keyboard. Thank you for sharing your love with others so we can learn how to be better parents. God bless you ❤️

[@DawnKellyMedia]

Bless you. I can't believe you got stuck with him. Good for you for doing what you needed to do.

[@SeekerKC]

I know Lee lives with his parents, but why can't the five kids hang out with him there on Sundays when they aren't doing an outside activity? If Lee's parents don't want the kids around all day, & I'm not saying they're obliged to whatsoever, he needs to move out! When we moved out of our grandparents' house & went to visit, we went there to visit; not to then be taken for an outing every week.

[@greer545]

He cant pay for rent of a place for him, and pay for the house his wife wont let him into, and magically spend more time with his kids. He has a house, and the wife who he works six days to feed and cloth wont let him in becuase she never gets a private bath of her own.

[@nadamisad]

@@greer545 so it's your third comment here that I happened to read. ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. Dear, noone made him to have the children. How do you imagine she goes to work with 5 children aged 2-10? Oh yeah, give the children to him as a stayed home dad so he can have time for a pint or 6 with a brother... I bet you must pay child support and it just bothers you. Tbh with the image of you I have after just those 3 comments, I hope you never have more children...

[@greer545]

@@nadamisad 1, i am a women, 2 i love kids and 3, I really want to have kids, lots of them, and now, i would love to have 8 like this woman. But i dont, because I try to take responsibility for my own actions and life choices, financial responsibility. I can not financially support a child right now. Even though I would like to be a stay at home mum with 8 kids, i will probably only have one, maybe two kids, because i dont want other people to pay for my whims. This women chose this, she CHOSE.

[@eleanorcooke7136]

@@greer545 if I had a man that treated me like that, then I would have ended the relationship. If we had children, then even if he worked 7 days a week, I would at least expect him to help in the evening or play with them because of how important it is for them to have that relationship.

[@jamesjustjames4066]

@@eleanorcooke7136 work 12hr+, travel time 2hr, 2-4hr playing with kids. That's 16hr--18hr a day. 24hr - 16hr--18hr = 8hr--6hr to sleep, eat, shower, and maybe watch the evening news. Husband = servant / walking wallet.

[@1985bjaycat]

Omg those kids are so flipping cute. Omg. I could just squeeeeeze them all!! 😀

[@nb-user25]

No judgment, I’m just genuinely curious how two people can have five young kids and then break up. I just wonder how you didn’t see any signs that you and your partner aren’t right for each other. Is it that life just happens and you focus on the kids and one day realize omg, I don’t like my partner?

[@sherrywright7699]

Where did she get that "fantastic dad" business???? That man is well into contention for the most useless dad, maybe in the world. The children WILL see all this at some point, and think of the hurt that will be brought about. If he can't find it in his heart to shape up, he surely does need to ship out.

[@cococollective-cocoregina7074]

Nicolas mum seems really dignified

[@dagifelner9298]

They just have to see, what those beautiful children are giving them...and value it. They should love their children.

[@GhislaineMutombo]

Yeah but part of showing that is spending time with your kids. That's how kids know they are beautiful.

[@crystalthow5533]

Lee is a fantastic Dad?????? Oh yeah when he drinks!

[@irenegriffin8366]

Well?w i c.d.s.

[@irenegriffin8366]

This isnt my comment and what does it mean

[@garthvader9916]

?

[@19tams67]

I absolutely 💯 love Miss Jo ❤💕 I wish she was on TV now, I would watch her. Thankfully , I have YT to watch all the past videos. I've learned a lot from her. Much love and happiness to you JoJo !!

[@karenannanderson3715]

STOP having so many children!

[@anynextdon4684]

Why do these people have kids they can't afford nor give their proper time to?

[@jennywinter3025]

I agree 5 is alot

[@eleanorcooke7136]

I think that the mum really could take care of them if the father did some work to help. 5 is a lot of children to raise alone.

[@anynextdon4684]

there's no real reason to have more than 2 kids and theres no real way you can provide everything a kid needs to more than 2 at a time anyway....financially or emotionally.

[@jamesjustjames4066]

Maybe if the mother worked the dad could spend time with the kids.

[@ella-maefarnsworth5600]

@@jamesjustjames4066 I worked 6 days a week too. You have no idea what you are talking about and making up your own narrative

[@TheMerFree]

I think Nikki was very accountable for her part in this. Where is Lee's accountability?? Look at his posturing, he's folded up into himself like a sulking little boy. Time to be a grown-up, mate.

[@sandyb2391]

if it's calm and structured it will work. if its tense and anger then its that

[@mandanaweingartner153]

shes so beautiful

[@kathleenpapaleo253]

He's never getting his own house. His Mummy will never let him leave.

[@checkyourhead9]

I keep waiting for someone to say but do you WANT to see them?

[@nea1451]

Where's Nicholas father? And Lees father? All these absent fathers. There's a pattern here and it continues on and on and on..

[@kaylabarnes313]

British Dr Phil episode.

[@aarya5121]

I love how nicola and her mom got the same colour hair dye on the ends, is it just me that noticed that?

[@ella-maefarnsworth5600]

It wasn’t the same 😂 mine was pink and my Mums was purple x

[@robbiecarter8773]

@@ella-maefarnsworth5600 same concept 😊 it looked pretty on you both x

[@whencesleepfairy]

It seems the main issue here is that dad doesn't know how to spend time with the kids. It may really help to coach him on how to play with them, be with them whole heartedly.. it needs to be taught , esply because the dad's have grown up without their own dad's being with them. It's a sad vicious cycle .

[@zeldagoblin]

Close your mouth, Lee, there's a good chap.

[@zeldagoblin]

@@bradleefarnsworth hahaaa ok!!

[@angelawallace6317]

Have none of these parents heard of birth control

[@lessehead]

He has no idea what to do with children, what’s appropriate for them. How is it even legal for children to be in a pub? He shouldn’t even be allowed to see them if he’s drinking. If I were her, I’d go to the judge and have his visitation revoked because of his drinking and the inappropriate activities that he’s doing with them. It’s dangerous.

[@jennifermanian1420]

She needs to send all 5 kids to the father and grandparents for a couple days. He didn't want to break up with her because she was doing everything.

[@joanstevens5989]

I think Lee's mom needs to button her lip a little bit more

[@xeniajola]

Lee looks like "o noooo" when jo talks about the future and have the kids on more days and evenings

[@jennyparsons1343]

The children just wanted to spend time with their father. Poor little children.

[@tieskeellis8531]

No words for this horrible so called father and his mother

[@brendamarcoux1530]

I think that working 5 days is what is in the best interest of the children!!!!!!!

[@cataderian]

If only the mother could work 8 hours 5 days a week. That would be a dream come true!

[@donnareiss124]

cataderian she is working far more. having 5 kids.

[@heatherrae4126]

Sounds like both parents need to step it up. Mom needs to learn techniques on how to discipline her kids and dad needs to be there more. Kids need BOTH mom and dad to thrive The parents watching their kids with Jo, you can tell how much they love them. They just need guidance

[@greer545]

He cant be there if the mother does not allow him in the house he works 6 days to pay for.

[@marclabrie6027]

@@greer545 I'd make sure I'm there for them even if mom don't want me there especially if I pay for the house

[@KimVerhaaff]

Pretty sure he didn't just change after numb.5 so why, if this is who this man is, have 5!! children with him. Who are now in this destructive dynamic.

[@hillanne100]

She needs to get past anger and he needs to grow up

[@ella-maefarnsworth5600]

😂

[@checkyourhead9]

His mom causes plenty of trouble. He is so hungry for validation and to be backed up in this situation and Shes an unneeded earworm.

[@shmirchiktipsytarot2225]

Im sorry. But jo is wrong on this one. The husband is a irresponsible man child. Mistreating his ex. Being a lousy irresponsible father. His mother is the creator of this man child. The mother had to deal with THAT mother in law plus a man child. Poor woman

[@jo-annewinmill5919]

Yep irresponsible man child he's had these children he needs to be responsible for them

[@kellymcvey4494]

It’s disgusting how he’d rather be in the pub than be with the children.

[@904daniela]

Five kids? WTF?

[@dagifelner9298]

It's the grandmothers and - fathers. Where are the grandfathers? Not there. Story continues

[@src186]

In 24 years ive had 4 days of child free nights youngest 17 now, ive got 4 children and now 3 are adults, these parents wanting me time????me time comes when they grow up.....

[@joienecula9843]

Things like this usually end with someone running around

[@breyette4697]

Shame on the mother of this man, she knows in her gut what has gone wrong and she hasn't taken responsibility for it. That's HER son being a luck luster father and she's not fooling anyone with excuses.

[@erin9110]

The enmeshment is strong with his mother

[@dominewimbury2039]

This is the wrong description. It's supposed to be about two families apparently but in reality it's one different family

[@kirstyi7860]

You could say that about any broken family. You seem to blame the mother who does everything with and for her children! Most normal humans expect the Father to be involved with his own children's care! He's obviously a Mama's boy who resents having the responsibility for his OWN five children. If you think that money can take the place of time with your Dad I sincerely hope you don't ever have children for their sake.

[@patchthecat]

@@kirstyi7860 they were actually referring to the literal description under the title of this video lol...it is the wrong one...go read it

[@dominewimbury2039]

@@patchthecat thank you!

[@kirstyi7860]

@@patchthecat Thanks for telling me!

[@kirstyi7860]

@@dominewimbury2039 Please forgive me for being such a stupid person? My only defense is that I'm on lots of drugs as I'm post-op surgery. I had an IMN, a huge nail put through my tibia to allow me to walk and it's been a pretty nasty recovery. I'm so sorry for being such a twit. Have a Merry Christmas! This has taught me a huge lesson and I obviously needded it. May all your needs be filled this Christmas as you are surrounded by those who love you most, and may your laughter be heard for miles! Sounds like an Irish saying, but I'm from Glasgow so it's definitely not that!

[@yona7014]

Why 5 kids?????? Sorry, 6 kids, the "dad" is a big baby that still needs his irl momma.

[@ericadancewithme]

Message to Lee: My own step Dad also took me to bars on the weekends when he was together with my Mum. I remember all the times he passed out like a starfish face down on the bed. I remember him waking up 1pm the next day because was hungover. When my Mum finally kicked him out, he would still take me out & where to? Bars. When I went on holiday with him in 1 week he drank several bottles of wine, vodka & beer enough to fill 5 trash bags. I stopped talking to him completely a few years ago when I’d just met my now husband because I realised what a real man is. Cutting him out of my life when I realised he chose alcohol over me. My husband today also likes to have a drink now & then but he’ll still be awake with my son at 630am no matter how much he’s drunk the night before. On the weekends to give me a break he takes our son out from 8am to 12pm. I don’t even have to ask, he just does it. No alcohol or bars involved. You can do better. Stop making excuses. If you’re an irresponsible father who doesn’t actually want to be a father because drinking is more fun, then own up to it.

[@ectropion]

I just don't understand why you would have SO MANY KIDS with someone you don't even like. Use some birthcontrol maybe..

[@laverneschwartz6332]

Would love an update on the family

[@ella-maefarnsworth5600]

I’ve commented an update x

[@mimithemermaid3860]

This is why I chose not to have kids with my X-husband. I could see early on that he was not ready to be a father and probably would have made my life a living nightmare if we had had kids. What I don’t understand is why they kept having kids, since my guess is that he was probably like this from the beginning…. Surely, he didn’t change from the perfect Dad to the non-existent Dad overnight.

[@nela3986]

I admire them for having the courage to come on TV to get help but boy... The first things that woman says makes me mad... She says the house is run by tiny people and she has no say in anything. Woman, it was you who decided to have kids, a lot of them on top of it. And now you gave up. I never understood people, who are over their heads with their children and decide having even more is a good idea. You have a tuff time with two, stay with two. Don't get other three. Geez. Specially with that donkey as a father. Sorry, but why did they have children at all? If he doesn't give a sh** about his own kids, why having so many children with him? Why? He doesn't value his children at all. (and they seem like fun little fellas, so mom did something right) Looks to me like a mommys boy on top being a deadbeat. (Don't give any mother in law a voice on your life. When they get to much say, they always take a side instead being part of the solucion).

[@janesmith4h]

Lee's mother is a DELUSIONAL MESS!

[@marjetka01]

Drinking kills relationships, families....lots of people aren't able to take any responsibilities whatsoever.

[@jeannenava5769]

ty

[@Betsy-R]

I don’t agree that he gets to help make any decisions…kids’ mom needs to make the rules and tell Lee what the rules are. They are blessed to have 5 kids, but after 2 or 3 kids, do these guys not realize how stressful and expensive 3 are, before adding 2 more? Then maybe he wouldn’t have to work 6 days & life could be simpler/manageable. It’s too late now, but maybe other folks could learn that with additional child the family dynamic changes. 😢😢 Bless this mama.

[@atravers_]

Is every man in the uk named lee

[@eleanorcooke7136]

No, my dad is called Julian, his brother is called Richard. I don't know many men called Lee

[@user-pw4ch4cl4e]

Bet lee still lives with his parents and the mom is remarried.

[@janesanchez213]

Kids and drinking do not mix. Mom does need time out and he needs to show up for 8 hrs on Sunday

[@erin9110]

As a mother having a bath or shower alone is the BARE MINIMUM some mothers ask for. It's not ok that Lee can't put himself in his ex's shoes and thinks taking them out all the time is a chore. Dude get a grip.

[@btdovesgamer29]

this how I would see it if I was their child, "if my dad only cares about having a drink then spending time with me." for my oppion is If your equity time is over drinking then spending that time with your child (it's worth more than having a alcohol in your hand or anything with take up your time.). what's more worth for your equality time for ?

[@isabellasanchez3815]

Honestly I LOVE JOE An Have ALWAY’S ALWAY’S Watched Her Since I Was Young Since Her Very First Season Of SuperNanny Came Out‼️‼️ But In Some Episode’s Joe Tend’s To Get On My Nerve’s Just A Tiny Bit IDK If It’s Her Voice But When She Dealt With The Kid’s An Do An Say Certain Thing’s It Would Annoy Me lol 😂 Lmaoo But Like I Said I Love Her No Matter What‼️💜💕

[@petrairene]

How about checking the man out BEFORE getting multiple kids with him....

[@crystalthow5533]

petrairene human does change. Some people changes after wedding, after first child is born

[@zoedark7101]

Both parents seem depressed.

[@leannesmith7627]

All this over a Bloody Sunday , if I was the mum they would need to be with the day at least two nights a week or staying with grandparents lol or I’d put they on eBay 🤦‍♀️😀

[@cloudedcolour5329]

given that he ONLY sees them on a sunday, shes right to focus on sundays

[@francisgarcia1439]

The dad looks like default fornite skin

[@carolethorn3211]

The dude, Lee, looks like a Lifer straight out of Central Casting! And his "Mum" looks like a character out of some prison flick too - the quintessential Mother of the Thug. How any woman could have made 5 babies with something that could have been an extra from Trainspotting is beyond me. Gross.

[@ilciavargas7318]

Is sad to see both families trying to find a solution and the husband who is a lovely man has not realized that he has created this big family and now he has to pull himself up and stop going to the pub to have some beer with his mates. Young people needs to realize that your freedom ends when you have a child and that is the sad reality. If you have a low salary is even worst both of them ends up working. I had two kids one after another with a husband who did help and let me tell you that I did not even have time to have a mug of water because we used to spend the spare time with talking reading etc etc and take them to the park every day after work. I am so glad my two grow up children decided not to have children because they remember their childhood and all we did for them to brig them proper. Fortunately many couples now a days are not having kids for various reasons includes the big responsibility and the overcrowded planet.

[@virginiamoss7045]

Lee's body language is all I need to know about him except what his mother contributed. Not a man; not a father.

[@sarahsmith4205]

The mom is right he can and should take the kids out and spend more time with them he doesn’t have to be at a bar all day or at all if he didn’t spend 6 hours at the bar he’d have more money to spend on his kids he could take them to the zoo or something and he doesn’t have to spend money on them all the time he can take them to the park or play games with them inside when it’s rainythere’s so much you can do with someone that doesn’t cost money

[@dominewimbury2039]

Nikki, you and Lee chose to have five children. They are your priority. You can ask your mother to babysit occasionally but your freedom has finished really until they are older

[@chantellem6457]

Very interesting how you're targeting the mother for wanting a bath on her own but not the father for spending Sundays drinking.

[@dominewimbury2039]

@@chantellem6457 you don't know me luv. I've actually got a dad who is the same. I'm not only blaming the mother. He's weak for drinking. Should have used something if he can't cope

[@chantellem6457]

@@dominewimbury2039 I didn't claim to know you, luv.