Fox Sports’ Joel Klatt Defends Deion Sanders & Debates Jason Whitlock on NIL | Ep 455

When Deion Sanders took the head coaching job at Colorado, he brought his luggage - and his baggage. Former Buffs quarterback and Fox Sports college football analyst Joel Klatt joins “Fearless” to discuss the controversy surrounding Coach Prime, Klatt’s alma mater, and the NCAA transfer portal. Do those critical of Deion’s unvarnished approach have a point, or is he just using the system? No other rule change has affected college athletics like name, image, and likeness, but is that a good thing? Jason and Joel debate the cost and unintended consequences of the current NIL package.
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[@vesubioromo9425]

Glad to see Klatt on this show. The guy is a college football heavyweight. I hope he becomes a regular during the upcoming season.

[@dyrldouglas2087]

Deion took advantage of what's ALLOWED nowadays. Winning is what they want EVERYWHERE.

[@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA]

I support coach prime all the way...He is there to build a competive team...And that is the bottom line..

[@rend1846]

Me too I just hope people be patient and don’t turn on Deion ,

[@AJHart-eg1ys]

He is there to try to give the impression of progress so he can jump to a better job. Don't be fooled. He's not building anything in Boulder

[@karumehickman]

@@AJHart-eg1ys What other way to give the impression of progress other than to progress?

[@AJHart-eg1ys]

@@karumehickman I'll give it the benefit of the doubt that you're not joking by asking that. Hypothetically speaking, is a 5-win season "progress" if it's the result of cobbling together a poor OOC schedule? For context, it's also worth noting the fact that - with the exception of last season's dip, the program pretty much always wins at least 4-5 games.

[@karumehickman]

@@AJHart-eg1ys 5 wins would be one aspect of progress

[@Dumballa]

That was awesome Jason. Really hoping we can have Joel back on soon.

[@markjones5678]

Jealousy is a disease! Coach Prime is a marketing conglomerate all by himself. Wherever he goes, the media and masses follow. He's an inspiration and many love him but many hate on him. The haters want to see him fail and we that support Coach Prime want to see him succeed. Godspeed to Coach Prime.

[@erwinhouser7704]

Jealousy is also in the category of insecurity and mental illness in my opinion.

[@kimberlywright5491]

Exactly! Haters don't realize how their insecurities and jealousy are immediately revealed.

[@clecanda]

Awesome discussion. Coach Prime fan from Shanghai. From JSU to CU. He is an inspiring figure and I wish him the best.

[@48northphotography5]

An intellectual conversation between two highly intelligent men without the yelling and talking-over each other. Who would have "thunk" that could happen. Thank you.

[@Qd322]

Not sure about the 2

[@rend1846]

48North you’re probably smarter than both of these guys 💪

[@user-ps7rr1no6n]

"highly intellegent" - "Intellectual conversation" lol. The bar is set so very high.

[@petergianakopoulos4926]

Adverbs are not a sign of intelligence hihi

[@123..0.]

Highly?

[@thelightsoutshow]

Like him or not, Deion has got Colorado on everyone's radar. This is the first time I have ever been excited for Colorado football! Great show Jason!!

[@rickjoyce9272]

He's "winning" team meetings and spring games, wait til they play something meaningful..

[@AJHart-eg1ys]

So you haven't really paid any attention until they hired Sanders, have you? That bandwagon ride is going to be a short one. 🤣

[@craig5477]

@@AJHart-eg1ys That’s the way bandwagons have always worked. They have never been a longtime support group … thus the name “bandwagon”. What will last long term is something that is new for Colorado in recent years. And that is hope.

[@matthewjosephthecommonsens2940]

well prepare for disappointment

[@AJHart-eg1ys]

@@craig5477 The Buffs were 10-2 going into the P12 title game as recently as 2016 and finished the season ranked #17 by the AP. The likelihood that Deion will even sniff that is microscopic.

[@MrLee4love]

This is good, they need to update the rules to make it all fair. What should he have done with an 1-11 team, keep them & get fired before 2026? Not on our life

[@thatguybill34]

*They did update the rules. Coach Prime followed the rules.*

[@brotherLee340]

It just feels like Prime taking any old body. He didn't even try to build up some of the guys he had at Colorado. I'm not sure taking all them third stringers from other teams will work. Still gotta build a culture

[@rollsroyce2627]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 smdh..tony Mitchell was a bad example..he was a dumb 🐎...most of those player's aren't gonna be out there crashing out....Peace

[@stifler5062]

@Brother James they had from decemtill spring break to show that they could be coached and most failed. Surely ur not implying the whole roaster got dropped.CP and his staff salvaged what the could..? YOU have been going on about how small and high school like that previous team looked,a coach makes changes and YOU still complain.

[@brandonburns5365]

​@@brotherLee340those third stringers are looking good lately 😅

[@CarlosRenfroe]

Joel is so sharp and insightful. Love seeing him on this show. I love him on the Herd, but I like this side of him.

[@erikmorse3605]

Like it or not, Coach Prime got Colorado on the map and more relevant in the last 20 years

[@kryptoxon447]

This was the best sports take in years

[@richjg3049]

Great show. Kudos to Mr Klatt for coming on the show.

[@william-ajones3959]

Seeing Klatt on this show tells me a lot about him. We need more good guys as big time voices in sports.

[@DavidOkutinyang-td4jt]

Joel Klatt is the College Football 🐐! Best analyst of the Sport in America!

[@Kirbysbelt]

He's a big 10 homer

[@timkinley1779]

Exaggerate much?

[@DavidOkutinyang-td4jt]

@@timkinley1779 Not at all! The only one that's even comparable is Kirk Herbstreit.

[@JJdeluxeCSU]

@@DavidOkutinyang-td4jt ugh… come on.. baby Kirk, and slow Joel.. you’re better than that

[@mdvga]

In Prime we trust 💪

[@jakecook2375]

Great conversation and I enjoyed watching two mature men discuss and debate civilly

[@marybooker7247]

Klatt explained the pros and cons of the NIL and college football very well. Thanks!

[@thatguybill34]

*Coach Prime did the same thing at Jackson State and no one complained. As result Jackson State won Back to Back SWAC Championships.*

[@AJHart-eg1ys]

Winning the SWAC is like being a normie and bragging that you won the Special Olympics. It's widely considered to be one of the weakest conferences even at that lower level. And one where it's easy to plug in failures from higher-level programs no one wants and suddenly find yourself with such an overwhelming talent advantage that you barely need to be able to coach. Maybe that explains his more high-profile losses.

[@JJdeluxeCSU]

@@AJHart-eg1ys thank you!! That level of play was crap, and there’s a reason no one gets drafted from the swac

[@AJHart-eg1ys]

@@JJdeluxeCSU I mean, this is not to hate on Deion. But there needs to be context. Similarly, everyone's acting like the Buffaloes haven't had a good season in a generation. In 2016, CU was 10-2 and heading to the P12 title game.

[@JJdeluxeCSU]

Agreed, not sure this year will be their year, it’s a rough schedule but next year could be an 8+ win season. And that’s when Deion moves on to another program. His son will be gone, hunter probably gone.. he’s going to do exactly what he did to JSU, and I don’t blame him. Not sure if he can coach, or just recruit, but if he has a formula, run with it

[@brandonburns5365]

​@@AJHart-eg1ysmost coaches start off at smaller schools. By your logic no small school coach is qualified.

[@TempeSoldier123]

Klatt is the best in the business. This dude knows what he’s talking about.

[@edwardsaucedo9223]

Colorado has been the doormat of the conference, change was needed

[@donhello7522]

2 smart and thoughtful sports guys

[@Bswitch1]

Glad you’re having some of your old Fox sports colleagues on the show. Holler at Marcellus.

[@marquismcbeath5332]

Never liked Jason but this is one of the best conversations about Deion and NIL that I have ever heard. Salute

[@anthonyhart9661]

👍🏾

[@ricric9521]

Yeah he's a hater, but sounds reasonable here

[@michaelscurlock5371]

Preach.... and you know how Jason love those buttered biscuits... his cheeks show that buttered biscuits glow🎯

[@juiceqc7716]

So good to see JK on this show. JK is authentic, intelligent, thoughtful and 100% class.

[@RonDaGr8t]

Awesome show. I liked the clean well thought out dialog. Very informative and it’s a conversation that’s needed.

[@Surfklone]

Great conversation. These are conversations that need to be had across College Sports. I think that the NIL situation will work itself but there are gonna be rough patches through the years.

[@Cpnweze]

Honestly if any elite coach in football said they wouldn't overhaul a complete roster on a team that went 1-11 and mutiple losing seasons since 2005, I'd say thats a coach who will be unemployed in a few short years.

[@christophercatiller2422]

This was a great interview, Jason! Really enjoyed the conversation.

[@CJK-bt4ll]

Put the NIL $$ in a trust until they graduate or get drafted. That is the safest way to do it. It will prevent leechy family and friends from taking advantage of these kids.

[@jamesbond-xl3xs]

I have thought of this before and think it's a great alternative solution here. Best of both worlds.

[@CJK-bt4ll]

@@jamesbond-xl3xs My only surprise: it's not talked about more. I know there are recruiting pressures, but at least behind the scenes, Saban, Harbaugh and Smart could make this change happen.

[@jamesbond-xl3xs]

@@CJK-bt4ll i absolutely agree and hope somehow this gets discussed more but I think the cat's out of the bag now so to speak and now that money is flowing it's gonna be hard to change it up.

[@realtalk423]

The two of them talking about how giving 18 & 19 year olds a large sum of money is detrimental. But no one has a problem with 17 & 18 year kids joining the military and going off to war, seeing friends and coworkers get killed, or die in training exercises. You tell me which one is more detrimental to a young person's mental well-being? It's also no coincidence the problem with kids getting paid for their talents are the two sports that are dominated by black athletes.

[@david_banner055]

Wait a minute. Money WE have invested? WTF are you talking about? When have you ever given a player an NIL deal?

[@gboni66]

Great show. Klatt does an amazing job for the USFL and we should all be supporting that league; it’s politics free and great football.

[@garrettchristensen8074]

This is gonna be good. Can't wait. Bring on Lee Haney Mr.Whitlock. He's a champion & a God fearing man. Perfect for FEARLESS.

[@seancharlebois6220]

Good pick lee Haney

[@ItsMike81]

You can’t set aside NIL for an elite group of players in an open marketplace. If a player that’s not in the top 300 can leverage their NIL then good for them. If you start making NIL for a specific group of players who gets to decide who these players are, that can open a whole new can of worms by tampering with lists etc.. I believe you keep it as an open marketplace.

[@BobbyMarley718]

Exactly and these be the same ppl claiming they’re not socialist.

[@LN-Lifer]

It isn't that Sanders is a great coach. It's the recruits his name brings a team

[@sojourner2013]

Joel sees this as a business (utilitarian) and to help his alma mater quickly. Jason sees this deeper, about growing young men into men that God has called them to be. Two different hosts and audiences. Praise God for Jason and his care for our young men. May Jesus Christ be glorified. 🙌👑

[@lb5162]

With today's NIL rules, Reggie Bush should get his Heisman back.

[@Davon03]

I hate the narrative of too much money young isn’t good for college kids but getting loans for school is ok. Smh

[@Unapologetically_Masculine]

These kids aren’t getting loans. They get a free ride.

[@lukephillips770]

These kids have talent that 99% of people wish they had? People are upset that “Black” kids are getting paid. Crabs 🦀 at the bottom

[@brandonburns5365]

​@@Unapologetically_Masculineyou missed the point. There peers are getting loans

[@ko2890]

That was a great discussion of a very complex situation.

[@davidw9772]

Joel Klatt commentary is commensurate with Al Michaels

[@marcuspeterson6371]

NIL deals should include mandatory investment aside to ensure kids have a fall back plan.

[@chrisgates9813]

I get what Joel said about having a half a million at 18. I can’t speak on everyone but when I was 19 my grandad left my brother his home and everything in it expect the safe and everything that was in it went to me. I’m thinking maybe just a few hundred in there. It was 65,000 in that safe. I didn’t just blow through it. My first thought was “ima invest that money. Im now 31 and with that investment I now own 10 duplexes 20 units in all and 5 houses that I rent out. I wish I could mentor some of these guys and tell them. You never know when an injury might happen or anything. When you getting that money invested into something in case you don’t make it to the NFL or the NBA. I watched my parents buss they ass all them years working and I always told myself I wasn’t gonna work that hard. I went to college played ball. I knew I wasn’t gonna make it to the NBA so I used that scholarship to get 2 degrees and learn how to run business the right way. Now all I do is coach high school basketball and train kids for basketball because that’s what I enjoy doing. So I’m doing something I love for maybe 5 hours in a day because I was smart at 19 and invested

[@lessmall78]

Sounds like they rather have the college admins continue to keep their billions and not share with those who earned it for them.

[@coffeecove7058]

Really enjoyed the show and the conversation.

[@Jayhawker2000]

Very Interesting conversation. I'm not sure what the solution is, but there is definitely a problem with college sports. It's the Wild West.

[@geraldos9094]

The question is not, was what Prime did is good for college football, what he did was necessary. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. What he did was good for Colorado.

[@robertromero2928]

Joel Klatt Genius on insight's worth discussion

[@ZOELIFE23]

I enjoyed this. Respectful debate

[@reikojohns1748]

Your show is Awesome!!!

[@JacobWLangford]

Love both these guys. Great convo

[@polo19681]

Well I love what you do Joel, but as a parent of a one time CFB players. Some (alot) of player did absolutely go without during their career.

[@kerribowser6495]

That was very informative. Thank you.

[@bobnewsdog]

A great discussion. I 100% disagreed with his take on players making money. Life is a risk and there is no guarantee of success at any point in life.

[@staffordx6783]

Great discussion

[@mervdove5901]

Thanks for the holiday treat.

[@CoachPrimeMotivation]

Hey there, just caught the latest ep with Joel Klatt on Fox Sports! 🎙 Klatt really stood up for Deion Sanders and went head-to-head with Jason Whitlock on the whole NIL debate. 🔥 Sparks were flying, and Klatt held his ground for Prime Time! 🏈💪

[@sammyvh11]

I like Coach Prime. He's qualified to coach at a high level. He's old school. He doesn't use profanity but he is still a disciplinarian. But the portal system and the pay I'm not a fan of. I watched the winter and spring practices on their social media . They had some real duds on the line. Most of those guys are gone now. He knows what he needs. Skilled player wise he's ok. I have no idea how many games he will win. As usual it will come down to QB play, studs on the lines, and injuries. I don't like some of his assistants. I won't name names but he has 2 or 3 guys that are drill instructors who just drop F bombs at the players. I like more of a Tom Landry approach to the game. Check out the ticket prices at Colorado. They are through the roof. Guess thats what you have to do to get a guy like Coach Prime and his high profile assistants. Should be fun but they won't get my money.

[@thatguybill34]

*Nothing wrong with Drill Instructors or F Bombs. These are young men who play sports.*

[@busydem6161]

Exactly, it’s a sport, athletics has never been a hub for morality. Jason , with college football being a multimillion dollar industry it’s not a fair exchange

[@jrc1219]

I am not a fan of Dion Sanders (Coach Prime) has used the transfer portal but he is not cancer of them; the transfer portal & NIL are really a microcosm of our society... whether one agrees with or disagrees with the transfer portal & NIL; society has created the desire for both these self gratification ideologies!

[@CounterC]

Great show. Followed the Buffaloes since the McCartney era. Glad to hear Klatt’s seemingly reasonable explanation of Deon’s actions since taking over. Bring Klatt back if it doesn’t get him fired at Fox.

[@drewwilson6639]

Was thinking the same thing, Klatt might be on the hot seat after this interview with Jason

[@timkinley1779]

Who is Deon?

[@floydjr1478]

You gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette.

[@mitchelll3879]

Please stop calling him Coach Prime..he is Coach Sanders, not Coach Clown car

[@TheIncredibleHoosier]

I’ve thought the same thing! 💯

[@Vincent-um9pi]

Now they want to change the system after Prime loaded up his roster 🙄

[@Moses._215]

I came for the “I’m dodging your question”

[@malawi44]

Great conversation.

[@benadek6703]

When Jason says he likes Deion I know he lying through his teeth

[@markmajkowski9545]

Any chance a discussion of NCAA APR - Academic Progress Rate - could be mentioned with the big transfers programs.

[@vincentgreer6067]

What is there to defend? I think people absolutely did not pay attention… when Coach Prime was at JSU? He has said publicly that his teams would NOT rely on primarily developing high school players. His concentration was veteran and transfer players. Only 20% of his scholarships would go to true freshman. He clearly understands how the portal works. Mississippi and no budget is a hard sell. Now with Power 5 resources we have seen his aggressive plan of attack. Coaches that cannot out recruit his are upset. Simply because they couldn’t figure out how to use a tool… that was right in front of them? These coaches will cry and the rules will change. Shiloh & Shedeur go to the league, his daughter graduates CU in 3 years and Coach bounces to a bigger, WARM weather program?

[@mauricereed5896]

Great show Jason talking about sports like grown ass men. Love Klatt

[@tevonhennesy6110]

Whitlock believe people should work for free? So make millions off a player but that player can’t make money?

[@franksessions4346]

Joel Klatt solid Great conversation jason

[@WayzUp112st]

It's hard to believe a guy who says I really like Deion but then talks down on the guy for doing nothing but help kids be better at life.... oh yeah and football baby!!!! GIVE ME MY THEME MUSIC 🎶 🎶

[@dionellwalker9762]

Jason Whitlock speaks the tone that the establishment won't speak out loud because its a tone of yester year but its a tone that his viewers are agree with and eat up. How about the student athlete who recieves NIL money and makes sound investments after getting a sound education and learning about financial responsibility, traveling across the country being exposed to different cultures and ideas but this student athlete doesn't make it to the proffesional sport league in his or her sport,does Whitlock realize the opportunity that NIL does for this student athlete. For example said student athlete has a injury in college that derails their proffesional dreams, a injury that is life changing that will be with them for life ,health insurance that was afforded them in college won't be there for them in their 30's but the injury is whether its a back injury or knee injury NIL would hopefully allow them to have a head start into planning to build a portfolio that allows them to live comfortably but Whitlock would say that those monies would be invested to purchase narcotics ,who really thinks like that

[@nattyswede]

This was a real interesting conversation. Unintended consequences... Sometimes things don't thought through thoroughly enough...

[@brandonpotts54]

He had to turn that roster over. I remember looking at the players in their seats at the first team meeting and just thinking they look like a HS JV team.

[@williamwhitus7994]

Thanks!

[@chrisv.6279]

Made a lot of great points!

[@geraldos9094]

Most coaches would’ve done it differently. Most coaches would’ve lied to each of these young men to convince them they are better than they are. Most schools fire coaches within 4 years if they aren’t winning, he did what he had to.

[@jamesmitchell3615]

🔥🔥🔥 show!!!

[@mac88white]

Great segment overall

[@coreycokepolk9483]

Why not have Prime on the show? That would be great.

[@21stTrojan]

Always liked Klatt he does great commentary.

[@ctafrance]

I love these guys!

[@SammyA.]

Nice to see Joel Klatt. When is Lavarrington coming on?

[@mcolvinis1]

Why so much hate just embrace greatness and success. Our people are the worst...jealous is all I see on u jason

[@jimmyjackson2361]

The solution is for the universities is to take some of the money they are making and to pay major sport athletes a stipend, and tighten up the transfer portal rules to one transfer during a college career. No exceptions.

[@EatinOffMyOwnPlate]

make the Korean cossell your permanent co-host !

[@BRUMSEYBOYS]

🤣

[@makareli5068]

What about the coaches that leave after telling a kids moms that they are going to make sure they graduate??? Come on fellas!!!

[@Kyleterp1]

There are still many logistical issues with making the players employees. When coaches get hired, most contracts go through board of trusteees, will they do that for 85-120 players? Is the jock tax going to be implemented for the players? Is there an ncaa salary cap or is it by conference? Will salaries be public so a player could potentially try to transfer to said school or conference? What happens if said kid gets cut, would that salary be guaranteed? What happens if the teams make the playoff or conf championship games, how does that payout go down? There’s so many questions that need to be answered

[@RevolutionaryFather]

Love Joel Klatt!

[@louisgaines7400]

Ok, Grandpa, times have changed. I love NIL!

[@darrellglover954]

Is it bad for college football? Is it good for college football? If you have a 1-11 team? Hell yes! How often are teams gonna go 1-11? Not too often! How many coaches coming in to a 1-11 team will attempt to win it all the year they are hired? How many coaches would have the belief they have the charisma and influence recruit 60 4&5 and 3 stars? Few to none! How many coaches won't see 60 players that are salvageable? Likely no other! This may never happen again. Now that CP the most charismatic personality, the #1 CB in the history of the NFL who was hired to turn the team around and has done a nearly miraculous job in recruiting top highschool, Junior college, and transfer players, who happens to be black that not only no other coach would have the balls to do and be successful, they are so astounded, so hateful, so jealous, they wanna change the rules. They are panicking! Its far too early to say it's bad for football! Let's see what happens over the next few years then you have a measuring gage to make a case. This is something that just happened. Its not a trend. CP overhauled his roster and now people have itchy trigger diggers, I believe they want him out of college football!

[@AJHart-eg1ys]

It's hilarious that you believe he's loading the roster with so many 4- and 5-star guys. There are only a few dozen 5-stars coming out of high school every year, and when they fail, they don't transfer DOWN to a place like CU unless there are reasons they can't transfer parallel. There's a reason a school that already accepted about 3/4 of transfers had to loosen up it's standards even more to let Deion's kind of player into the school. I don't have time to address the less sexy - but equally ignorant - statements.

[@jadendavis6085]

@@AJHart-eg1ys If you knew how to actually do some research,you could easily see Colorado has 17+ either former 4 & 5 stars already enrolled or transferred in. Stop talking out ur ass when you don’t know what your talking about. Delusional!

[@jadendavis6085]

@@AJHart-eg1ys There’s definitely 300 4 & 5 star recruits coming out of high school every year your clueless if you think there’s only a few dozen lol.Go do some research buddy.

[@AJHart-eg1ys]

@@jadendavis6085 If you tally them all up, you can hit about 300, give or take. Only a few dozen are top-tier 5-star guys. The much number of 4-stars points to how much better the 5-stars are considered to be. The lower tiers are almost always larger as you go, until you run out of guys. And it's worth noting that the number of 5-star guys is NOT strictly based on talent. It's based on trying to predict what the first round NFL Draft will look like in a few years. So there might only be 28 bona fide 5-stars in a given year. There could also be 42. But the number who get that distinction is around 30-36. The thing is, there are almost 250 D1 programs, 130 of which are FBS and about 80 of them FBS. And I think you and I both know that the elite programs are gobbling up almost all of the 5-stars and the better 4-stars. Then it becomes a matter of why any 4-star would be in the portal to begin with. Often it's because they can't or don't want to compete for a job. How valuable is that player? Receivers might want to go to a school with an offense that may showcase them more. Then there are the guys who have basically been kicked out. Of those three groups of players, the last one is the pot of guys most likely to be willing to transfer down so far that they'd be near CU's level. The problem is that with many of THEM, the thing that got them booted from the last school will keep them from getting into other schools. THEN they have to mind their Ps and Qs and not get kicked out of their new school. It's like claiming you have a bunch of pageant winners at your school. A lot of schools can say it. But the phrase "pageant winner" doesn't differentiate between a school filled with SEC cheerleaders and a load of small-town slump-busters from the Great Plains. They've all got sashes. Take care.

[@jadendavis6085]

@@AJHart-eg1ys Your deflecting. Your first statement about coach prime 4-star & 5 -star guys are wrong. You also said there was only a few dozen 4-5 star recruits every year which is inaccurate again. Why do your kind of people never can face facts? Only lies that’s you make up in your head then believe them none of what you said was off facts, that’s just what you believe.

[@coreycokepolk9483]

Jason looks like Grimace from McDonald's cookies.

[@FreeStateofFlorida]

Winning will make them relevant. Hype will not.

[@KB-nx1rr]

Jason Whitlock aka Uncle Ruckus lol

[@tannerhoopes8831]

Love Joe Klatt! You need to get Lavar Arrington on the program!!

[@richardshaw908]

Buffs' needs to return to Big 12 to make some money and be competitive in recruiting. Used to Love going to Boulder and watch them play in cold and snowy weather!

[@GODAWGS7709]

Overhaul was the only great solution for Colorado.

[@BB-eg2gf]

I want to Klatt and Pate together!

[@tvm7903]

I am sorry! but this guy seems like he is obsess with Deon because he is jealous and insecure it is evident.