Why North Italy is Rich and South Italy is "Poor"

[@lelamyers1418]

It's fun how much further North this line would be without Rome. Like it has to curve just to take Rome into account.

[@LucaPasini2]

Actually the most useful way to divide Italy would be between north, centre and south, as it's shown in the map at 25:30. The north includes all the Po Valley and surrounding areas, and besides being the wealthiest part it's also culturally and linguistically distinct from the rest of the country: the regional languages that to little extent are still spoken there besides Italian have more in common with Occitan and French than with Standard Italian. The centre is culturally closer to the south but in a better economic situation, driven by Rome and Florence, and then there's the "real south".

[@timogul]

Conversely, if it dipped slightly further south to cover Naples too, "southern Italy" would be in even worse shape.

[@MarketsDriveTheWorld]

Guy that's where all the tax money goes.......

[@azael1474]

What you see it's the historical border of the northern duchies and the roman papal state (Vatican, but much bigger), in contrast with the southern kingdom of Naples which was mostly a single political entity, and the source of several problems as described in the video.

[@ennio0rh-427]

9 Ok.

[@daveswort]

As someone from Sicily who currently lives in Lombardy, I can confirm pretty much all of what you said, but there is an element that’s missing: South Italy has plenty of resources of her own, there’s oil, there’s agriculture and if the north has a great potential in Hydro-electric, the south has just as much in solar, wind and geothermal. The “issue if the south”, as it has been known in Italy for decades, has more to do with bad government and wasted potential than it has with the amount of resources (or lack there of). Many governments have tried and spectacularly failed to invest in the development of infrastructure and industries, but corruption, organized crime, and the passivity of the general public have all but guaranteed the those changes would never happen.

[@xmaniac99]

Basilicate is the Kuwait of Europe when it comes to gas extraction.

[@ChicaG-vg7pj]

I wondered about this too. When you can't trust the government to do what they saw or are supposed to do, investment stays in your mattress. TY for stating the experience of someone who's lived it.

[@astronotics531]

According to recent studies, the South is just as developed as the North. It's just that the South has a strong informal economy whose statistics don't reveal the true wealth of Southern Italy. So this whole video is based on the premise of a lack of real economic statistics from Southern Italy.

[@daveswort]

@astronotics531 I have to disagree. The south is objectively poorer than the north, and your average family in the north has a much greater purchasing power than its southern counterpart. That’s not to say there isn’t an informal economy as you stated, but to claim that if we took it into account north and south would be equal wouldn’t be even remotely true. Besides, having a formal employment grants you access to a number of benefits, from mortgages to unemployment and retirement plans, which in on itself makes a huge difference.

[@thebeatnumber]

You forgot to mention the Mafia and 'Ndrangheta

[@fanmovie357]

Its funny how 2500 years ago it was the south that was more developed by the Greek cities in the boot and sicily while the po valley was filled by Gauls.

[@seanmurphy7820]

It's not like at THAT time there was anything relevant north of the Alps.

[@VivaErDuce]

Until few hundred years ago that was the case

[@SoldadoAntiBalas2008]

Slava PIZZA 🍕

[@angamaitesangahyando685]

It's because the Greeks had a lot of Nordic blood back then, but now it's the same case of the Dominican Republic vs Haiti. - Adûnâi

[@lyricofwise6894]

​@@angamaitesangahyando685LMAO WRONG, so many barbarians of Germania trying to steal (THE true cultural appropriation) mediterranean heritage, simply because they didnt have civilization until 476 ad... Ancient Greeks and Italians from the neolithic era all the way to end of antiquity, were by FAR, Anatolian neolithic farmer dna and western hunter gatherer dna admixture. Wheres the Yamnaya dna admixture? Practically nonexistant during most of said time except for the bronze age, they only left a cultural legacy of a language family onto southern europe, not a genetic legacy (their genetic legact didnt last the past iron age, and was at max during the bronze age at 25% only, then got diluted out).

[@maybedumbledore]

Just a clarification here; in southern italy the unemployment rate is so high because unregistered work is much more convenient for both businesses and workers, as a means to evade income and hiring taxes. This makes up a huge part of work "culture" in the south, its not that people are unemployed, its that the work is not registered and therefore doesnt show up in government surveys. In the north, businesses are both bigger (and therefore less affected by these taxes) and regulated more strictly (so more often fined than smaller businesses in the south)

[@R2Sam]

Came here looking for exactly this

[@caezar55]

What you say is true, but having a large black economy is never a good thing. And those unregistered cash in hand jobs likely pay very little. So its relevant to look at the official stats.

[@cigothebrandnewfox]

Unemployment rate takes account of unregistered work. Just like GDP takes account of underground economy. This is obvious because modern states need to be aware of both phenomenons. And is logical, if unregistered work is high, unemployment rate (people looking for a job) is low, because they would have a job, not looking for one.

[@astronotics531]

@@cigothebrandnewfox The informal economy cannot be measured.

[@Tokru86]

@@cigothebrandnewfox Do you even understand how unemployment and unregistered work works? Unemployment rate only ever can take into account what people officially tell the government. And of course everyone who lives off unregistered work is officially unemployed to get benefits. Thats the whole point of unregistered work!

[@black-snow]

RealLifeLore in a nutshell: can grow crops + has navigable rivers = rich

[@pranav210591]

India has exactly same situation as Italy, with a plain riverine north and a rugged south. The development story is reversed though. North has high corruption and poverty, while south has better infrastructure and human development.

[@realcanadian67]

It is true, though.

[@msergio0293]

Thanks

[@alexis1156]

Yea, nope, the major reason is honestly because people in the south are lazy parasites living on and abusing welfare. Geographical disadvantages can be overcome, we are not living in the stone ages, the problem is mentality, and as an Italian you can definitely see a stark difference in mentality between the south and the north. As pran pointed out, india's north has a big advantage yet the south is more developed, the problem is corruption and lazyness, just like in Italy. But people don't want to admit that because then you're being offensive and politically incorrect. I mean, there is a reason why we call them "terroni" in a somewhat dispregiative manner.

[@alexis1156]

Yea, nope, the major reason is honestly because people in the south are lazy parasites living on and abusing welfare. Geographical disadvantages can be overcome, we are not living in the stone ages, the problem is mentality, and as an Italian you can definitely see a stark difference in mentality between the south and the north. As pran pointed out, india's north has a big advantage yet the south is more developed, the problem is corruption and lazyness, just like in Italy. But people don't want to admit that because then you're being offensive, and don't care about fefees. I mean, there is a reason why we call them "terroni" in a somewhat dispregiative manner.

[@ADDoingIt]

As an American who was taught very little about demographics and geography of other countries I would like to say thank you for these videos. You have vastly changed my world view over the years, thank you RealLifeLore!

[@SoldadoAntiBalas2008]

Lets Go BRANDON 🇨🇳

[@33d672]

Rare American W? Good job!

[@IGBBBBBBB]

Start playing paradox games. Your knowledge on old world (+ new world based on the game) will explode.

[@FastGuy1]

Thats on you. Im relatively young, from the U.S and I know more history than my entire geography class combined. You just gotta do the work yourself

[@ADDoingIt]

@@FastGuy1 sorry, you're right. I forgot I am responsible for the United States education system and social studies curriculum.

[@nirorbach8046]

As once a tourist, I can highly recommend visiting the south of Italy. It has wonderful warm beaches to bathe in. It has a magical genuine agricultural tradition and scenery, which yields delicious foods. Also there are magical (even if neglected) townlets. Also the views of the volcanos is beautiful and impressive. If one just tolerate the awful public transportation...

[@Th3nox13]

A pretty cool place is Alberonello in Puglia! Its a place with really dope house things we call "i Trulli". Altough i really dont recommend to only come for those since its not worth a flight.

[@quailgaming4242]

​@Th3nox13 Its name is actually Alberobello. I've been there a couple of times.

[@Th3nox13]

@@quailgaming4242 oh yeah right, my bad, i misspelled it. But yeah, it is Alberobello!

[@bababababababa6124]

I can’t even mock Italy whatsoever, their “poor” southern region would still be the wealthiest part of my country by far 😂🇳🇬💔

[@mnm5165]

This is so real. I’m originally from Egypt, I would kill to live in Italy’s “poor” region

[@sh0gun570]

real

[@nealrigga6969]

@@mnm5165Western people will never understand what real poor is like, they should pay us a visit in Africa Latin America or South Asia

[@FuTuIRe]

@@mnm5165 i saw somewhere that you can buy a house in very rural areas for 1$ but i think you need to live and work there, i thought that i have seen it in a yt vid

[@tombo416]

People in the West could never understand real poverty. They should pay us a visit in Latin America, Africa or South Asia to see it for real

[@lokitus]

Northern Italy was also dominated by a foreign power for centuries: the Austrians. One factor missing from this analysis is the extent of Enlightenment thought and the effects of Napoleonic administrative, infrastructural, and legal reforms.

[@Ricky911_]

Absolutely. The region shown at 20:43, with the highest literacy rate, is also the region (Kingdom at the time) that unified Italy. Enlightenment came to Austria and France, with Austria holding onto Veneto until the 1860s (I can't remember what years exactly). During the Napoleonic wars, on the other hand, Lombardy and Piedmont were, for a long time, puppet states of Napoleon. The ideas of enlightenment, industrialisation and, most importantly, nationalism all came thanks to Napoleon. Napoleon is the literal reason for the unification of Germany and Italy. However, while it was Eastern Germany (Prussia) that pushed for unification, Southern Italy never really had this nationalist idea of a greater Italy as the North did. As I mentioned in another comment, the problem with this video is it mostly takes charts and stats available in English and doesn't fully dive deep into Italian culture and history

[@meder07]

True. Corruption Index would have been interesting to correlate also

[@SoldadoAntiBalas2008]

Slava PIZZA 🍕 Heroyam MAFIOSO Italiano 🦾

[@angamaitesangahyando685]

Everyone is trying to omit the topic of biology. Like in the Dominican Republic vs Haiti. - Adûnâi

[@Nick77ab2]

It was only in passing that he mentioned foreign powers, probably due to the "in a nutshell" aspect of this video. I assume it'd be an hour long if he went into the tangential's of the other aspects he decided not to focus on.

[@bbhr8409]

Maybe my beloved island of Sardegna is poor, but Sardinia is one of the most gorgeous Mediterranean islands. 💙🇮🇹

[@anthonypan205]

unfortunately, gorgeous = undeveloped = poor. Making it nice to visit but bad place to live

[@pabarabanu]

@@anthonypan205 Undeveloped doesn't mean unlivable. Once you visit Sardinia you would definitely like to move there, trust me

[@SoldadoAntiBalas2008]

Slava PIZZA 🍕 Geroyam Spagetti 🍲

[@MarketsDriveTheWorld]

Those sheeps aren't working hard enough 😤😤

[@cavulocappoccio7690]

@@anthonypan205 Not so bad for many people, but you gotta enjoy slow and industrious country life and have a good relationship with the sun. It's not a place with many money, but it's also a place where you don't need so much, there's a different relation with the landscape and with resources. It's not a mystery why many Sardinans aren't very fond of tourists and fear for that same gorgeous landscape to be ruined to accomodate them, as happened in many places.

[@matteohasa4450]

As an Italian, i'm happy my country got a detailed video by you. Keep it with the good content

[@mahdiKhanBey1314]

Because there is a mafia in Italy and the reason for that is American influence in Italy.

[@aexetanius]

Art thou from the prosperous domain or the humble quarter of Italia?

[@checksum256]

Ho esultato quando ho visto l'Italia hahah

[@marcusbrown188]

As an Italian American I am happy buying lemon juice from Sicily

[@Perkelenaattori]

Be happy. If he made a video about Finland it would be about 7 minutes long. 😄

[@elPacho_42]

As someone from Central Italy, i'm so glad you made a video on this topic! It’s hard for me to discuss this with people from the far North or far South because the topic gets people very heated, and because people from the North/South tend to see me as someone from the South/North (so biased). Hope this platform will give me the opportunity to do it (i'm spamming this video to friends and family).

[@BP-of5cp]

We get heated when talking about what to have for lunch. 😂

[@elijoki99]

I almost made a comment saying "I wish they'd make an Assassin's Creed game based on Italy someday". The younger me slapped me with a nostalgia hit like no other to make sure that I won't make that mistake.

[@SaeedMobayed]

The Ezio trilogy is the best of the series. Ubisoft lost their ways and will soon be declared bankrupt and bought out, unfortunately.

[@lesscrement1448]

They should make another one tbf, with modern technology it would be sick

[@SaeedMobayed]

They would ruin the dialogue.and the characters. So much of what is said is not considered appropriate for "modern audiences". Same with characters. Plus we really can't trust Ubisoft in 2024. It's best we go back to the authentic masterpiece and play it without having it ruined in our minds.

[@dragosi8980]

As a romanian, I have to agree. I've recently been to Sicilia after going many times to different areas of northen Italy, and I was shocked by how bad everything looked. No joke Catania looks far worse than any city in Romania with similiar population. I think the averge standard of living in urban Romania is better, and we are in eastern Europe...

[@seanmurphy7820]

I lived in Catania and I'll tell you: c'è da mettersi le mani nei capelli per quanto è disastrata quella città.

[@SoldadoAntiBalas2008]

Hungarians : Make GOULASH Great Again 👀

[@angamaitesangahyando685]

It's because it's effectively the Africa of Europe. (Unless Tunisia is more civilised lmao) - Adûnâi

[@carlovignati421]

Because It Is, southern Italy Is worse than most parts of western Europe

[@Randall88503]

The descendants of Sicilian immigrants in America have white privilege.

[@xpendabull]

“What do we call this volcano?” “What about Volcano?” Edit: I'm aware the word volcano comes from that particular volcano.

[@funghi2606]

It’s the Word Vulcano that come from it 😉

[@leggendario93]

that's where the word comes from my dude

[@alexialu4224]

That's where the word volcano comes from. Volcano was seen by the Romans as the chimney of Volcan's furnace, the roman God of fire.

[@1LPMx1]

It's like the word geyser which comes from Geysir in Iceland.

[@kaisaplews1407]

hahah dumb lame joke you didnt even bothered to research what that word means and why its called like that...

[@arthurmorgan8496]

As a bulgarian who loves geography, history, and geopolitics, I have to say that this video is very well made. A similar situation can be observed in my country as well. However, here it is the opposite. The South is richer and more developed than the North, which could mainly be explained because of a better road infrastructure and more highways in the South.

[@slavchomarinov9909]

More highways linking to ports*

[@Voyant]

which can probably be explained by better geography

[@piersp38]

Italy = Putting together Germany and Greece you obtained Italy

[@preparedgalaxy872]

Well, exactly lol.

[@jakehshsh2955]

Smart😂

[@spaniardsrmoors6817]

Even southern is way ahead of Greece.

[@Acelum]

Asolo, featured at 6:43, is a hidden gem of Italy often called the ‘City of a Hundred Horizons’ for its breathtaking views and serene atmosphere. Nestled in the Veneto region, this enchanting town has inspired poets, writers, and artists for centuries, including Robert Browning and Eleonora Duse. Its cobblestone streets, historic villas, and charming piazzas are a testament to its rich history and cultural significance. If you ever find yourself in northern Italy, don’t miss the chance to explore Asolo. It’s a place where time seems to stand still, offering beauty and inspiration at every turn.

[@angelicaeagles9627]

If you're ever in Italy, especially if you're visiting lake Iseo, pay a visit to a small mountain village called Zone, it's home to the biggest erosion pyramids in Central-South Europe, it's my hometown and it's breathtaking with some of the best views of the lake ❤

[@1l0vepunk]

Was there for a Marky Ramone gig.

[@lokibau]

e sticazzi ndo ce lo metti?

[@pumalibre5926]

I live there 😊

[@pumalibre5926]

​@@lokibau Rosica in silenzio ritardato

[@EnocksonFerrall]

My main concern is how to survive all of these financial and political crisis, especially in light of the US political power scuffle. The government has really called things more difficult for its citizens, and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance.

[@SimmerFerdon221]

I think investors should always put their cash to work, especially In 2025, we'll start to see more market diversification. I'm hoping to invest about $350k of my savings in stocks against next year. Hope to make millions in 2025.

[@Jessicas.4207]

I suggest that hiring a portfolio coach is a smart move and that in this case, patience is your best friend. I make a lot of investments and cannot afford to take the risk of doing it alone. Instead, since the rona outbreak began in late 2019, my portfolio has been maintained by a qualified advisor. I only need about $86k more to reach my one million dollar ROI goal

[@AvivaAgnes]

Yes true, I have been in touch with a brokerage Advisor. With an initial starting reserve of $75k, my advisor chooses the entry and exit commands for my portfolio, which has grown to approximately $550k.

[@BoyesMorlas3058]

Please can you leave the info of your Investment advisor here? I'm in dire need for one

[@AvivaAgnes]

Tracy Britt Cool Consulting... has always been at the top of my list.. She is regarded as a genius in her area and well knowledgeable about financial markets. I highly recommend you look her up if you want excellent collaboration.

[@krim7]

If you squint, you can almost see the borders of the Papal States as the dividing line

[@Ricky911_]

Part of the Southern border of the Papal State was the same as the modern region of Lazio. You can see the border because it is, in fact, still there. It's just a different region instead of a different country 😂

[@riccardomallardo7779]

​@@Ricky911_kinda, most of the modern day province of Latina was part of Campania, the majority of Ciociaria region, Sora, Cassino and Gaeta including Ventotene

[@umcaraqualquer3640]

By the way, Italy's poorest and least developed region was a higher HDI and 3 times the GPD per capita of Brazil's most developed region 👍

[@matteocercaci5320]

Brazil's cost of living is far less than southern Italy's. Unfair comparison.

[@umcaraqualquer3640]

@matteocercaci5320 And yet Southern Italy's still got over 3 times the purchasing power parity ACCOUNTING for cost of living. Why is that? 🤔

[@marcolucca6241]

More than Sao Paulo? I don't think so. The city here is considered like the new York of south America. Or is it just a myth?

[@umcaraqualquer3640]

@@marcolucca6241 Sim, mais do que São Paulo capital. A Sicília tem o IDH exatamente igual, e o PIB per Capita 2,5x maior. E a comparação com NY, como sempre, é vira-latismo. Nenhum dos 2 indicadores passa perto de NY 🤣

[@andreasturini4791]

Hi! Fellow italian here. One of the worst things that slowed growth in the South, historically speaking, was during the unification of Italy, south regions populations were promised land in exchange of help. That never happened, and the land went to lords that imposed a medieval agricultural system for more than a century. Anyway, this fracture between north and south really is a pain in my heart, this is a beautifull and amizing nation, but so badly managed :(

[@MirkoskjiVero]

What happened between north and south of Italy is a similar recipe of what has been enacted in the EU...

[@Furettaro]

Libero di far la secessione e riprenderti le terre fratello. La smetto volentieri di pagarti le tasse.

[@danielefabbro822]

That system was already in place. Put there by the Borbonic kings. It's not a case that the South was infested by rebels and mafias. They wanted to get rid of the Borbons but found instead a new royal house that wasn't so different from the former ones.

[@emilianohermosilla3996]

While north Italy was going through the renaissance the south was being ravished and disregarded by the Aragonese, then these reforms that were vastly needed weren’t applied and here we are, a few hundred years later from those two. Napoli and Siracusa were always major trade centers of the south, so I do not really think that this stereotype of the south always being worse and lesser is true at all, they can become as major as they were before. Also, when the unification of Italy came the nature of it’s union as a centralized parliamentary republic was in it of itself a miss, the peninsula had always been in nature, if it was to be united, a federal union of different states. There’s just a lot of beautiful history in different regions and cultural semblances that were dismissed to put the label “Italian” over all of them. I’m happy that at least we’re aware of the disparity, in the past what would have been done was do like the British a cause a potato famine because of their “lesser nature”

[@Paradox-the-real-one]

@@Furettaro 😂

[@Jin88866]

I'd like to say that Southern Italy had almost no railways because they had ships which were more efficient and faster than trains given the difficult terrain in the South. Why would you develop railways when you have ports and can navigate between all major cities with no obstacles like Mountains and rivers?

[@simoneradici5676]

I agree but unfortunatly there is a direct connection between railway and industrial development in the XIX century.

[@Hikaeme-od3zq]

​@@simoneradici5676 I'll just echo what this guy above said, you got the biggest fleet of the Mediterranean (the Bourbons') WHAT do you need railways for? Plus, it's hard to build railways in southern Italy nowadays too: Southern Italy is made and divided by mountains and hills, the North literally has one of the biggest planes in Europe.

[@AdiNikiVem]

I've recently been to Naples and the south of italy and I couldn't help wonder why the development was so stark compared to the north. Love that ReallifeLore chose to make a video on this!

[@Jkev24]

Green energy companies probably could revitalize the South I think. Solar and wind energy could really benefit from the climate in southern Italy and there's likely a lot of available space for solar and wind farms because of the lack of development down there. Now, connecting everything to the grid likely will be tough due to the infrastructure, but I think it would be worth it, especially since Southern Italy likely could essentially be a huge energy source during winter months due to the sun being out nearly all year long.

[@spaniardsrmoors6817]

Amalfi coast is in the south, Taoromina, Sicily, Puglia, so many more what are they like? As beautiful, modern as any in the Lakes of the North and any country in the world. It's far from stark.

[@p.c8281]

15:36 funny how the development banana just avoids France

[@wernerlindorfer3693]

Funny yes, but its just not accurate to exclude Paris and the surround metropolitan area

[@Hession0Drasha]

Nah it includes lile, paris, strasbourg, lyon and marseile.

[@tombo416]

⁠@@wernerlindorfer3693I don’t think that banana thing was suggesting that Paris isn’t significant, it’s just that Paris is fairly isolated and out-of-the-way from the Blue Banana region. There really isn’t much in between Paris and the Belgian border, except for some smaller cities like Reims

[@SoldadoAntiBalas2008]

Slava BAGUETTE 🥖 Geroyam Escargod 🤯

[@megalonoobiacinc4863]

its a bulging banana, it has space for France as well

[@mrJety89]

Looks like southern Italy is getting the "boot"

[@bloxoss]

As someone who has family in the Bari-area, I'd argue both regions are well developed places to visit and the economic divide is less noticeable than it was a few decades back. The stigma between the two has gone down drastically.

[@Pancelotti]

Forza Bari

[@leonardomargiotta5772]

Puglia and Campania are exceptions, I don't think people from Calabria and Basilicata would say the same, the divide has never gone away

[@randomdeath9207]

Why North Italy is Rich and South Italy is "Poor" - Name before its changed Edit- *Chill grammar police, I'm sorry, Don't beat me with your baton*

[@Zlen_1]

Lmfao true

[@castleanthrax1833]

It's*

[@Electronicmadness123]

@@castleanthrax1833same thing

[@salvatoreregalbuto5444]

@@randomdeath9207 Because Italy doesn’t care about any region thats not a major city. My fathers village Cornelle 2 hours from Rome didnt have electricity until 2011. Everyone in the town moved to America.

[@GreatLiteShark]

This channel is corny af

[@intersezioni]

Since October of this year, Italy has become the fourth largest exporter in the world, surpassing Japan and South Korea, as well as being the second largest industrial power in Europe after Germany.

[@Robert_4444]

thanks to the north, not the south

[@frank_zapping]

Yeah but our roads suck, everything is going bad because the wealth from north must cover the needs of the whole country 😢

[@joostbankert4250]

Hey mate, I just did some research for the past 3 hours to factcheck if this is true and Italy is not the fourth largest exporter and at least also not fifth. Text i copy+pasted from Italian financial website article (took me some time to find because there wasn’t a single international financial organization with export stats or article with explanation): 2 October 2024 IN CREDIT MANAGEMENT, EXPORT DEBT COLLECTION, NEWS The year 2024 is emerging as particularly favorable for Italian exports, which have demonstrated a remarkable ability to consolidate. This conclusion comes from analyses by the Edison Foundation, recently highlighted in the Italian press, which indicate that Italy has managed to position itself among the world’s leading exporters, surpassing several global competitors. Specifically, data from the World Trade Organization (WTO) for the first half of 2024 confirm Italy’s sixth-place ranking in global export standings, with export values reaching $670 billion (equivalent to €626 billion according to ISTAT). By adjusting the evaluation parameters, Italy could even be reconsidered as the fourth-largest exporter globally. The Edison Foundation points out that, by excluding the Netherlands from the ranking-given that a significant portion of their exports consists of goods in transit rather than genuine exports of locally produced goods-Italy would move up to the fifth position, right after China, the United States, Germany, and Japan. This result places Italy ahead of South Korea, which had overtaken it in 2010. Italy could climb even further up the ranks by excluding automobile exports, which account for a substantial share (10-15%) of the exports of countries such as Germany, South Korea, and Japan but make up only 3% of global trade. In this scenario, Italy would rise to fourth place among the world’s top exporters, thanks to its diverse product mix spanning a wide range of productive sectors. Excluding cars, Italian exports reached $657 billion in 2024, surpassing Japan’s exports, which stood at $607 billion.

[@spaniardsrmoors6817]

@@frank_zapping Italy's infrastructure is close to that of any country in north Europe according to stats.

[@marcolucca6241]

​@@frank_zappingbasta non andare a votare al prossimo referendum

[@kevinjohnson7374]

My wife and I save up every year for one thing only, a nice vacation and we’ve been all over Northern Italy until this fall we finally made it to Naples, the boot and Sicily and we feel hard for it! The people are so amazing, hard working and friendly. The landscape is unbelievable, the food is one of a kind and cost absolutely nothing compared to the rest of Europe and constant action of people living their lives is exhilarating. That said there is a staunch difference in way of life compared to the north, it’s harder to make it in the south with less resources but live seems so much happier their. I will retire abroad someday and southern italy is now my top destination.

[@IolandaPiscina]

They dont have less resoùrces, its' badlly distributeð, 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@aurum_nostrum]

Good luck😂

[@princeofchetarria5375]

I find it interesting that a lot of the geographic differences between the north and south of Italy are very similar to those of India, but the inequality is inverted with the poorest parts of India being in the north and the south generally having higher HDI

[@Pancelotti]

I don't know If It the same In India but In Italy you could say there Is this kind of basically racism between the two halves

[@pharelon]

The Byzantine (Eastern Roman) Empire, which dominated southern Italy during its time, cannot be regarded as a foreign power ruling parts of the region. They considered themselves-and indeed were-Romans, despite being Greek in culture and language. Furthermore, southern Italy had a long history of Greek colonies and populations since antiquity, so it’s unclear why the Byzantines would be seen as a foreign presence.

[@Nefferious]

Because they weren't Italian. Roman≠Italian

[@Randall88503]

They’re arab

[@angamaitesangahyando685]

Why do modern people detest the word "Byzantine"? I never understood why it triggers them. - Adûnâi

[@razackchrist5096]

@@Randall88503 No.

[@fartknockerR17]

@@angamaitesangahyando685 Because it wasn't widely used until the 1600 or 1700s (memory bad). A german historian invented it.

[@Jpthecool1800]

0:25- Sardinia: “Can I into Major Italian Highway?” Italian Mainland: “No.”

[@andyfletchxr]

*when your brain moves faster than your fingers*

[@zch7491]

​@@andyfletchxr I don't think it's a typo... they're going for country ball speak

[@alexties6933]

Sardinia has highways, italy has two types of highways: superstrade who are roads with 2+ lanes in every direction and a speedlimit of 110, and autostrade who are roads with 2+ lanes per direction and a speedlimit of 130. Superstrade are free and operated by the government and autostrade are (almost always) paid and operated by private companies. Sardegna has i think 5-6 superstrade but no autostrade

[@SoldadoAntiBalas2008]

Slava 🍕 Heroyam MAFIOSO Italiano 🦾

[@SoldadoAntiBalas2008]

Slava PIZZA 🍕

[@Martim61012]

South Italy is closer to Portugal, Spain and Greece North Italy is closer to Germany, Switzerland and France

[@TimonLepidus]

Lmao no. Maybe you have a point about France, but besides Longobard immigration to...Lombardy during the Middle Ages there's no connection between Germany and N. Italy. Switzerland is itself a mashup of German, French and Italian cultures, so it can't be used as a comparison.

[@spaniardsrmoors6817]

What's your point? That Italy, France, Greece, Spain, Portugal make those 3 histories pale in comparison? In fact Italy alone has a richer history than all COMBINED.

[@Martim61012]

You are confusing Italy which is not really a country, with the Roman Empire, no the history of Italy is not greater than the others, since Italy does not really exist, a Portuguese person has more similarities with a Madrid native than a northern Italian with a Sicilian.

[@FairyCRat]

First sentence in the video: "There is currently no country in Europe that is more sharply divided into 2 regions than Italy." Ukraine? Cyprus? Belgium? Poland?

[@DBBravo]

Economically that is. Ukraine would still apply but not the others. Belgium doesnt have those sharp economic differences and Cyprus is because of "arbitrary" reasons, that is, active military occupation and conflict. Ukraine was like that before so it still checks out. Its about how a unified country without ongoing hostilities experiences such drastic economic outputs

[@SoldadoAntiBalas2008]

Eastern and Western Germany 😎

[@andyjay729]

All the constituent UK countries, but especially England. Though there it's the opposite from Italy; the South (especially the London metro) is rich and the North is poor.

[@MarketsDriveTheWorld]

​@@andyjay729England is really just London and how much close you are to it, Italy is the entire north with Milan a little better but nothing in comparison to the economic importance London has.

[@okene]

​@@MarketsDriveTheWorldfacts. And even in London, it's about how close to the center you are. Outer zones have worse infrastructure

[@Granditamias]

Round 11 of asking Real Life Lore to do a showcase video for the country of Peru. It’s had a rocky but fascinating geopolitical history that needs an in-depth video.

[@RossBaby91]

Southern Italy is where all the culture is at

[@_o.O__]

Vai a farti un giro a scampia tu e la tua cultura da 2 soldi... Che alle vele fanno piu affari del fentanyl negli U.S con la droga che smerciano.. Tutti son buoni a dire sta la cultura ma per mettere apposto i siti culturali che vi cadono in testa come le vele di Napoli gli appalti vengono dallo stato e meta dei soldi vanno tutti in mano ai mafiosi e non combinate mai un cazzo!! Come lo stretto di Messina che sarà costato a peso d'oro... 15 Miliardi di euro!!! La prossima volta prendetevi un cazzo di traghetto che risparmiate!!!

[@TimonLepidus]

Rome and the Renaissance started in the Center.

[@RossBaby91]

@ But pizza started in Naples!

[@AntiNihilist]

The Blue Banana ❌️ Holy Roman Empire✅️

[@ThunderboxMusic]

Yeah he was trying to make a connection between religious worship attendance and prosperity but…. that prosperity was brought in part because of church attenders!

[@PierSilver]

@@ThunderboxMusic and yet, now in southern europe the religiousnes of a region is inversely correlated with its wealth.

[@riccardorizzo3728]

@@PierSilver I mean, it's like that all over the world right now

[@ThunderboxMusic]

@@PierSilver Because rich people don't realize how much they need Jesus!

[@TheLizardKing1967]

Being closer to Switzerland probably doesn't hurt.

[@pixelmaster98]

more like "closer to everything". I live in southern Germany, and driving to a vacation in Northern italy is feasible. This is not the case for southern Italy, which may explain the tourism gap at least somewhat.

[@MarketsDriveTheWorld]

Switzerland has 10 million people.... More like Germany and France.

[@Tazio_01]

More like the other way around, Switzerland benefits from being close to the biggest industrial region in Europe in terms of added gross value. Check your bias, Italian excellence in the north is surely not dependent on Switzerland, France or Germany.

[@Tazio_01]

@@pixelmaster98 Again, this is another common misconception. Tourism makes up only 6,2% of Italy’s GDP. Northern Italy is an industrial powerhouse, the biggest in Europe by geographic area, we are rich because YOU BUY OUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES. Not because we are near you or because you come to our cities to take a couple pictures.

[@the0ne809]

just like northern Mexico is way wealthier than southern Mexico. It is the location mostly.

[@Dumbledore6969x]

We’re hoping to visit next year, glad to be learning more about Italy 🇮🇹

[@WouterVerbruggen]

I've heard several Italians about how Italy is basically several countries in a trenchcoat pretending to be one. Mind tho, I think all of them were from the North!

[@MirkoskjiVero]

Well, italy wanted (had) to jump into the Nation-state bandwagon when all the other colonialists found out what the new fashion could be. Except it only worked well for countries that were into slave trade and invasions. So in the long run it proved ineffective for Italy, which was stronger as an agglomeration of different cultures and governing styles, and united by differences more than similarities.

[@Dr.Sortospino]

I still don’t understand why southern Italian in USA are not considered Latinos, since it was part of Spain until 1961..

[@leonardobertuzzi3042]

​@@Dr.Sortospino 1861, they where already Italy when the major migrations happened. Also while controlled by Spain they did not have a Spanish culture

[@Dr.Sortospino]

@ tell me that you don’t know.nothing about Sicily without telling me that you don’t know nothing about Sicily. Sicilian language is VERY close to spanish for how is structured. That’s why you northern don’t understand a flying f@ck when a Sicilian speaks. Sicily was dominated by Spain waaaay longer that has been Italian . Saying what you are saying is like to say that alto Adige is not German .

[@ricardoferral4553]

“Latino” is used to describe people and countries from Latin America, so that term wouldn’t fit. Further, “Hispanic” wouldn’t fit either, because it typically describes people and countries that speak Spanish. So Mexicans are Hispanic and Latinos, Brazilians are Latinos but not Hispanics, and Spaniards are Hispanics but not Latinos. In short, southern Italians don’t fit either of those two categories

[@thefedezboy]

16:34 🇦🇹🇮🇹it's important to keep in mind that Metternich had a clear desire to keep italy disunited, since an italian identity and vulgar language had been developing for a while. napoleon's ideas Did end up creating a desire in the italian people to unite, some consider the start of the risorgimento to be the letter of the king of naples (one of napoleon's generals) letter before being deposed by the austrians, to finally unite against the external enemies. All of which would motivate him to downplay the mere possibility of italians as a people

[@Leptospirosi]

Infrastructure and Orography is key: in the Roman and Dark Age era, The south of Italy was rich, and the north was poor: this was due to the centere of trade being the Mediterranean, and the rich trades with the middle east. With the Carolingian Empire the epicentre of trade moved into Europe, with the development of France and Germany. The South of Italy starved out, locked out by the advent of the Ottoman Empire, while the North, being closer to the Holy Roman Empire centres and France, become rich, through Venice and Genoa out competing Amalfi and the developing Padus Plane getting traction. The South being Cut off by the Anjoux and kept separated by the Papal State sealed the fate of the two Sicilies, especially once the world trade moved to the Atlantic rather then the Mediterranean. Nowadays, the lack of a bridge between the continent and Sicily, the difficult terrains of Basilicata and Calabria and the isolation of Sardinia make the south helpless, because anything produced in the south is more expensive to trade, despite the artificial creation of state funded factories in the south, unless the Mediterranean becomes prominent again

[@Liberty_Soundwave]

the north was not poor during Roman times

[@dennisweidner288]

Good comment to supplement the video. But you leave out the role of Spain which dominate Sicily and southern Italy for several centuries. Spain had the same negative impact on southern Spain that it has had on Latin America.

[@riccardomarchesini836]

i’d like to add that pianura padana or po valley is the most polluted area in all of europe (this comes from one of its inhabitants)

[@AhaouMero]

Requesting Real Life Lore to produce a showcase video for Peru is in its eleventh round. It deserves a comprehensive documentary because of its turbulent yet intriguing geopolitical past.

[@darenzy]

That's true sadly, having lived in Veneto for almost a decade I can say it's no better than the Balkan, it might even be worse. Although there's distinct difference, here pollution comes mostly from individuals, such as people still using wood/coal to heat their homes. While in Italy most of it comes from traffic and big industries. Smog is almost constantly present, at least around Verona and rarely I could clearly see the mountains beyond lago di Garda and further north towards Trento. 9/10 of thickest fogs I've seen in my life were in northern Italy.

[@highallmighty233]

Furio told me everything I needed to know about this.

[@SaeedMobayed]

I 'ate the north

[@jesussantana5929]

Was looking for this 😂

[@Hollywood2021]

Columbus would have had a bee on his hat

[@themulattomaker2602]

Even'a today, they put up their nose at us like we're *peasants*

[@SleepPara]

The north of Italy always had the money and power. They punish the south, since hundreds of years. Even today, they put up their noses at us, like we’re peasants. I hate the north.

[@zsoltpapp3363]

As a tourist southern italy is so much more interesting to me - except that sadly almost noone speaks english except for some tourist areas, but you can deal with them by hand gestures :)

[@danielefabbro822]

One of the biggest jokes of nature is that despite being surrounded by water in form of seas, the South is also one of the most dry region of Europe. 😑 During times, since the times of ancient Greeks and Romans till today, there was a lot of attempts to bring more water to those regions, without great success. Unless we try to create water out of thin air, there's little to do.

[@jflegias]

You can take salt out of the sea, just need power.

[@DorianTheReaper]

I like how the Blue Banana avoids France. That's based AF

[@spaniardsrmoors6817]

Zee banana no like zee France

[@anglishbookcraft1516]

As someone who’s been living in southern Italy for 6 years at this point. I think the obvious answer is that the south is where the elderly live. Everyone young moves to the north as soon as they reach college age. The only ones that stay usually don’t go to college and work rural jobs. All the new ideas and young blood leave. Only those who like the way things are hang around. But hey, I like the low prices.

[@lyricofwise6894]

​@@anglishbookcraft1516 good mention, one of the reasons that only compounds further disparity

[@VivaErDuce]

@@anglishbookcraft1516 the south is much younger, Naples is the youngest municipality in Italy

[@banmadabon]

@@VivaErDuce because the drug trade is profitable there

[@lokibau]

@@VivaErDuce ma co sto nick da cojone ndo ti presenti? 🙃🙃🙃 🤡🤡🤡

[@simoneradici5676]

That's a symptom, not a couse

[@cerealguy6359]

I want to point out, Mt. Etna consistently and is constantly going off, spewing ash all over the place all the time. The farmland benefits from it because tons upon tons of deep minerals within the volcano is constantly layering the soft soil, enriching it. The fruit, vegetables, and so on are all incredibly healthy and have more flavor. Mt. Etna is also relatively safe even while erupting, just because it is constantly active and constantly erupting doesn't mean it's unsafe.

[@MisterMolby]

Please also do the divide between Western Turkey and Eastern Turkey. They are also very very different

[@Abacos27]

"Eastern Turkey"? Do you mean "Kurdistan and Former Armenia"?

[@MisterMolby]

@ Idk the map says Turkey. 🤷‍♂️ Cope

[@SoldadoAntiBalas2008]

East ans West Germany : hold our Kebab 🫔🌯

[@ryanb9873]

But, Southern Italy unquestionably has the best food, the cheapest most enjoyable wine on Earth, and the island containing the most healthy old people and truly one of the 'blue zones'

[@FunkyRezable]

"Cheapest most enjoyable wine on Earth" As someone from Friuli-Venezia Giulia I disagree.

[@TimonLepidus]

Emilia-Romagna: and that's where you're wrong.

[@marcolucca6241]

​@@TimonLepiduse infatti io che son Lombardo salumi e pasta Emilia, carne Piemonte, il resto fottecazzo

[@dmac7128]

Interesting contrast. Around 800-700 BCE Italy saw the rise of Greek and Phoenician influenced civilization in the South especially in Sicily through colonization along with Rome in the North, it quickly surpassed anything that existed before and would end up ruling over all of Italy and beyond in the Mediterranean region. The Po valley was crucial to Rome's ascendancy. I am curious to see if the contrasting origins from the period of history has any bearing on the differences between the north and the south.

[@KurtisC93]

I visited Italy in 2013. We went all around the country-from Rome to the Naples area, then up to Assisi, Verona, Venice, Milan, Pisa, Florence, etc. Naples is in the south, and I remember being told that if we walked around on its city streets, we're taking the risk of getting robbed.

[@gradipadia9800]

I find it funny how Naples have such a bad rap when it comes to pick-pockets when even the most street wise Neapolitan fear the pick-pockets of Milan.

[@xmaniac99]

Naples is safer than any big city in te North when it comes to small crimes because it is autoregulated. If you get mugged in the North you are screwed.

[@leonardobertuzzi3042]

@@gradipadia9800 I have lived in Verona for 28 years, never got anyone stealing or even trying from me or anyone of my family. I go to Napoli 3 days with my family and we stop a pickpocketer from getting our stuff... It's true Milano is getting really bad as well though

[@angelicaeagles9627]

If anyone ever visits the lake region Brescia, especially Lake Iseo, there is a small little mountain village called Zone, it's home to the biggest erosion pyramids in Central-Southern Europe, we also have dinosaur footprints as well as a forest with gnomes carved out of the trees. It's a beautiful, breathtaking village with some of the best sights of the entire lake, if not all the Camonica valley, from all the wonders I've already mentioned to the Trenta Passi and the mountain top of mount Guglielmo ❤

[@cavulocappoccio7690]

Ada chè una gnara dela àl, pensa te!

[@lokibau]

e sticazzi ndo ce lo metti?

[@frank_zapping]

Vengo sempre a Zone a mangiare la pizza 🍕😅 sembra di essere in montagna anche se non è proprio in quota!

[@magatamass]

From a tourist point of view, the South has always been way more interesting to me.

[@silvialand]

And it is historically and culturally very very rich

[@BP-of5cp]

It is. Even those from North Italy think so. No matter what they say about the South, they end up booking their summer holidays in the south or even buying their second home there.

[@inaridefucc8904]

Hi, I'm Neapolitan (southern italian) and I'd like to give my two cents on the issue. No matter whichever explaination you might develop in terms of pratical economic theory, the sad and nauseating truth is that southern Italy is poor simply because it is undoubtly on the of the most corrupted regions in the entire world by a surprisingly large margin. Almost every major politician or person of interest has some kind of connection to the mafia. They take more bribes than paychecks and the infrastructure is awful. Worker's rights are inexistent and unions are, you guessed it, awfully corrupt. Employers reap huge profit margins while keeping employees as poor as possible. While northern italy is redeemed by a more centralized economy based on manifacturing, southern Italy's reliance on turism makes the living conditions of locals unbearably worse, rising costs of living while the beforementioned terminally corrupted infrastructure further enanches the economical divide, since obviously enough it doesn't need to rely on autoctonous consumption. This allows entrepreneurs (which most of the time have connections to the mafia, of course) to pay their employees the bare minimum, often times falsifying contracts for a real pay of about 3 or 4 euros per hour. If I'm not able to develop a substainable career in a few years I'm ready to emigrate to another country for better life prospects, because everything is better than the hell southern italy has become.

[@VivaErDuce]

@@inaridefucc8904 southern Italy is very corrupt but I don't think that it is more than the north or not that much and it cannot be the only factor and things like unions are a nation wide thing, also the wages not growing, and we have some good governance in the south, especially in Campania

[@simoneradici5676]

These are all symptoms, they are not the reasons behind

[@inaridefucc8904]

@simoneradici5676 I'd be glad to learn what you think are the core reasons of the problem

[@RainXbox]

Been to northern and southern Italy and I much preferred the south. The people were much more chill and friendly and while arriving at Naples train station was a pretty bad first impression the locals and the more than made up for it

[@Da__goat]

North: connected to the rest of Europe directly by land. The south: across from 4 major conflict zones, volcanic activity, need to ship goods 800km in orde to export, Naples and Siracusa being the only major port cities on both extremes, very mountainous terrain makes building difficult, no major rivers or river valleys, no major financial centers, no cultural capitals. Gee I wonder why southern Italy is so much poorer??? Truly a mystery why the 2 Sicilies are the way they are

[@sebhoeven2374]

As a graduate in political science and a history professor, I agree with what was said in the video. A perfect and accurate description, but it gives little consideration to the economic policies implemented in Southern regions from the post-war period onwards. Beyond the water crisis, the main issue in the South is a lack of infrastructure (airports, railways, highways, ports), which hinders serious industrial development. Efforts were made to create large industries (some of which still exist today), but they turned out to be so-called "cathedrals in the desert." The South still hungers for infrastructure today.

[@salvatoreregalbuto5444]

This is why most southern Italians move to America. My dad came in 1972 from the south.

[@tomp6685]

My mom's side all immigrated to New Jersey from Sicily back in the late 1800s.

[@salvatoreregalbuto5444]

@@tomp6685same my moms side came from edna sicily during the same time

[@LucaPasini2]

That's also why the American stereotype of Italians is heavily inspired by southern Italian culture!

[@jorybrown6714]

Same with my great grandfather after WW1

[@TheStickCollector]

You might think it would be the opposite due to being closer to the exit of the Mediterranean.

[@MirkoskjiVero]

Yes, but no. Italy is not allowed to have open, fruitful and mutually advantageous trade relations with the other countries of the mediterranean, mostly because many of them are of a different creed... And if it only tries, bad things (a-la northstream) may happen...

[@simoneradici5676]

Germany economy is bigger then the entire north africa and mediterean middle east combined

[@christiantosumbung5791]

Your first statement is incorrect. I would argue Belgium is even more divided between north and south. Would be a good idea for you to make a video about Belgium as well.

[@Pancelotti]

Do they deny people from one of the halves to rent a house from their half?

[@ILCORVO78]

About tourism I've got some doubts...in Central Italy we have Florence, Siena, pisa and Rome and you tell me the majority of the tourists goes to the north?!? Speaking of the South, probably Sicily is the most beautiful region, not only for their beaches, but they have notebale cities like Catania, ragusa, Siracuse and archeological parks, in particular I suggest "Villa romana del casale"... This doesn't mean that the north is not beautiful of course... One last thing, I was forgetting the beaches of the south...

[@zakuraiyadesu]

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[@hebusletroll415]

it's crazy the amount of data and the deep analysis you are providing, even as french you provide me with a huge boost to my understanding of a neighbor country. We can clearly see the deep research work, keep up the good stuff flowing ^^

[@Sacto1654]

And you wonder why there's still a lot of arguments about extending Italy's excellent high-speed rail network south of Naples.

[@MirkoskjiVero]

Since is a for profit endeavour, to develop the high speed network, it will not happen simply because there wouldn't be enough users capable of spending for the ticket. Contrary to several other European countries, transport infrastructures in italy are managed and financed following a private business model. There is the need for an economic viability, that simply isn't there in regions where the average salary is 1200€/month for a full time job under a fake (but legal) contract, when you're lucky.

[@dayros2023]

The network is being expanded from Naples to Bari.

[@MirkoskjiVero]

@@dayros2023 took some time...

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[@darioche85]

south italy is not poor! is simply less rich, poverty is a serious problem regarding other place of the world

[@Valaens]

Southern Italian who works in the North here. Loved the video.

[@anwarfellahi3673]

You didn't talk about the Italian mafia in the south.

[@andyjay729]

And you don't want to talk about them too loudly in the south, heh.

[@kkonti1113]

Do you really think Mafia has no hands on the wealthiest lands?

[@lokibau]

mafia is more present in the north, being a criminal venture that follows money.

[@nahuel5438]

You didn’t speak about mafia (illegal and criminal economy) that's still 1/3 of the italian economic force. Without it Italy would dominate the mediterranean region

[@PierSilver]

@@nahuel5438 sources? and don't conflate fiscal evasion with mafia.

[@mojog.4779]

The Sicily video on overly sacrastic podcast would make a really good companion video to this one.

[@JoeCole_social]

My grandparents are from Sicily on my moms side and northern Italy on my dads side. And one thing I’ve noticed about this divide with my Italian relatives, is the northern part is “more developed” but has higher divorce, statistics and a lower lifespan than that of the Sicilians. Perhaps there needs to be a subjective quality of life metric to help describe that wealth alone is not indicative of progress. Totally on point with the church attendance too.

[@ToniSerban-bt7mk]

Italy deciding one side is more poor. Meanwhile me in Romania. We are all poor. Joking now. Romania is doing much better economically. And even if it didn't, I'd rather live in a country without such devision than fight within the borders.

[@Misterx-xx1lj]

😂

[@phlave]

I just paused the video to say: good job pronouncing "Bologna"!

[@Kevin-kf9ct]

Trieste wasn't incorporated into Italy until 1918 - it was a major port of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, not Italy. If you go it's very obviously originally Hapsburg still and still feels rather stuck off to the side of Italy (the border, although irrelevant now because of the EU, runs along the top of the hills beneath which is nestles). And even when it was incorporated into Italy it was regarded as something of a backwater in the early C20 too. Massive port but historically I think you have to combine it with Venice to support your argument - which is fine.

[@simoneradici5676]

The italian economic boom was in the 60'. Trieste was and still is the most important port on the adriatic (nowdays is the most important in the entire country)

[@Kevin-kf9ct]

@@simoneradici5676 Certainly for post WW2 - I was just pointing out that it's only been part of Italy itself for ~100 years which RLL glosses over somewhat as he's arguing for a much longer historical N-S divide. I guess, like everything, it's complicated!

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[@AhaouMero]

Looks like southern Italy is getting the "boot"

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[@Ricky911_]

I've lived in 3 parts of Italy: rural Apulia (Southern Italy), Rome (central), Turin (Northern). So, I wanna give my opinions on these issues. The difference between the 3 places is very noticeable. Here in Turin, life isn't so bad. It's not perfect by any means but I did prefer my life in the UK overall tbh (I've lived there for 4 years). In Rome, life was a bit worse. It's livable but, for example, it has a massive problem with garbage disposal, having streets filled with garbage, unlike Turin. However, my life in rural Apulia was horrific. First of all, my small city looked exactly like this (6:50). It was just ugly buildings with streets drowned in cars and no trees. Other than the utter ugliness Southern cities have to offer, there are a whole set of cultural issues that need to be mentioned. I'll start off by saying that the map at 3:35 is very misleading. In Southern Italy, there is a big issue with people working illegally with no contract. While the official data shows low employment, a lot of people work illegally and pay no taxes. This, however, is also a problem for the workers since no taxing doesn't usually imply a high wage, as it's all illegal after all. Here in the North, working illegally is significantly less common. It's also one of the reasons there is turmoil between Northern Italians and Southern Italians. For example, Northern Italy generally votes right wing. A few years ago, the most popular party used to be Lega (originally Lega Nord), which mostly promoted policies to help the North. Southern Italians tend to vote for the Movement 5 Stars, which is a populist party. Having said that, Rome is the capital so, it's worth noting that such a status automatically helps it be somewhat livable. However, it is a super corrupt city with terrible infrastructure and just management overall. In fact, Milan is the economic powerhouse of Italy despite it never having been the capital. Turin is actually pretty nice overall. Buildings are not ugly like in Apulia, there are quite a few trees, people don't usually park in weird places like in Rome and, as I said, things tend to work a lot better, There is no issue with garbage, the infrastructure is pretty developed and most laws are usually upheld. Overall, Turin is a nice city and the best place out of everywhere I've lived in Italy. Having said this, you mentioned it and I kind of hinted at it but the main two problems are culture and Geography. From a Geographical point of view, we are in a much better situation in the North, with the only drawback being the bad air quality caused by the Alps and the Apennines. However, the cultural problem definitely needs a mention. Northern Italians are much more similar to Germans in the sense that they tend to be pretty strict with things. If a project needs to be finished within a certain time or there is a law to uphold, people will usually try to do their best to make sure these norms are followed. On the other hand, in Southern Italy, anything goes. To give an example, here in Turin, if you ride a moped without a helmet, you will probably be arrested as I have never even seen that happen here. On the other hand, anywhere in Southern Italy, you will regularly see riders with no helmet. Having said that, the South is also less educated and this can be seen in the fact that local dialects are still more spoken in Southern Italy than standard Italian. As you can see here (20:43), my current region already had a 51% literacy rate and it makes sense since Piedmont is the unifier of Italy, with Turin having been the first capital of Italy. In fact, not only do people here not have an accent, they also don't speak dialect at all. Piedmontese dialect is dead. Piedmont, Lombardy and Veneto were regions heavily influenced by France and Austria, which means they learned how to industrialise and how to administer a society. At the same time. Southern Italy was borderline feudal and it was super corrupt. These cultural aspects can still be felt. Northern Italians are stereotypically imagined as a bunch of workaholics, while Southern Italians are stereotyped as siesta enjoyers but, I can confirm these stereotypes are true. Southern Italy may have a Geographical disadvantage but, as someone who has spent 9 years of their childhood there, I can tell you the biggest problem is culture. If you asked a bunch of Northerners and a bunch of Sourtherners to set up a business, Northerners will always do it best. Quite frankly, I just can't stand the South and I only really go back to see my family. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk

[@stipe3124]

I actually finished your Ted Talk 😅 But isn't it like that in every country, there is always part that is not developed and part that it is and also i been to North Italy but never in South so i can't compare them really but i guess your Ted Talk helps

[@El.fish.the.chocolate]

To be fair, as an Italian, all of Italy is full of in black jobs and corruption. It's just easier to spot in the south.

[@Ricky911_]

@@stipe3124 It's the case for certain countries but, honestly, I don't feel like that's the really case in the UK for example. Having lived in London and having visited many places all the way from Devon to Inverness, I have never once felt like I was in a different country the same way I do in Italy. Sure, cities outside of London make less but they cost less as well. There are also dead towns that used to be mining towns but, again, not a cultural issue. They were just as developed, it just happened that an unpopular lady decided she wanted to destroy the British manufacturing industry because of messed up Laissez-Faire beliefs. Quite frankly, the only real difference I noticed between Scotland and England is Scotsmen are somehow nicer. The beef Scotland has with England is due politics revolving around the EU or the oil off the North Sea. Overall, Britain is pretty homogenous when it comes to standards of living. When I was in Devon, London, Wales or Scotland, I always felt like laws were upheld the same way and there was never a particular level of corruption based on Geographical politics and culture. Sure, I'd never wanna live in Bradford but this doesn't mean the whole North has a bad quality of life, like Southern Italy does as a whole. Mafia has never been a problem in the UK and all parts of the British Isles (even Ireland) took part in colonial rule. On the other hand, Southern Italians in WWI couldn't even understand their generals. Barely any were willing to fight on the cold unknown Friulian fronts, furthering highlighting the disassociation with the central Italian government. Anyway, I mentioned the UK because I lived there and I just felt like I didn't agree. But, countries like Norway, Switzerland or Australia really don't have this issue of development, even more than Britain. As the creator of the video also mentioned, the divide between North and South Italy is massive, even more than West and East Germany

[@stefamart7]

Completely true, the cultural divide is significant, much more than the geographical factor. If we just watched at geography to determine the economic outcome of a place than countries like the Scandinavians (isolated up in the north, extremely bad weather conditions) or Ireland (still pretty bad weather, isolated, colonised by Britain. Up until the '80s they were as poor if not poorer than the sicilians, now they do pretty well) or Japan (geographically isolated, extremely elongated country divided on multiple islands, mountains everywhere, natural disasters extremely common and extremely big, completely isolated up until 1853, catched up becoming so powerful that it could be compared to western powers during WW2, then destroyed by war (2 nukes), in the '70s they were already going strong, surpassing everyone other than the US) wouldn't have been able to get wealthy. Geography for sure plays a factor, but culture is what determines the end result

[@VivaErDuce]

The worst part in the south vs the best in the North is not fair

[@roby72s]

The south of Italy is poorer then the North, not poor. People in the South live very well indeed.

[@sticksitsme]

I love this channel so much. It’s my favorite on KZbin BY FAR!!! thanks for all you do!

[@buttaman34]

So essentially a Spanish colony. Ahh now it makes sense. All Spain has a horrible track record with its colonies.

[@Sphinxgamingworld9942]

lol Most of the third world is composed of British and French colonies not just Spanish 😂!

[@PierSilver]

unlike all the other colonies, right? right????

[@simoneradici5676]

Milan was a Spain colony for long long time

[@bellablack6937]

@@simoneradici5676 in the 1600s though. spain mostly dominated the south of italy until the second half of the nineteenth century, while austria was the dominant power in the north when the country was unified (1861).

[@juanperezmartinez1771]

Central Africa, the Caribbean Islands, South Asia would like to speak with you

[@cleytoncabral8616]

A lot of BS talks about this, blaming society, greed, unfairness, and even god, but truth is that there is something related to the genes that makes the difference. A lot of "woke" people will call me racist but the darker you are, more likely to be poor, you are, and the fault is yours. I am a mixed race, so I've been watching both sides of my family. The darker skin side of family only cares about party, gigui-gigui, and easy life, whilst the lighter skin side is focused on studies, work, and career. All of them were born and raised in the same community, same education and same oportunities.

[@gggmmmxspace]

You are not racist, you are a Philosopher, Anthropologist, Historian and even an idiot...

[@Mr.Nin10do.]

"I hate the north" -Furio

[@jade88sc67]

Give me 1000 dollars

[@brunolima7402]

Turns out people in Southern Italy are far more approachable and friendly. As a visitor, i've enjoyed Southern Italy way more than in the North so there are many positive aspects about the South when compared with the North.

[@johnlindsay3940]

This is the best channel on KZbin.

[@EclipseCoD]

As an American, this video was very interesting. I always assumed that southern Italy would be the richer side, having greater access to the Sea on all sides throughout history. I wrongfully assumed trade would be a bigger thing in the south compared to the mountains up north.

[@marcocarlson1693]

Well, I will only say this, aside from what the video says, which is flawed, you aren't totally wrong at all.

[@frank_zapping]

South Italy have everything to compete, the video repeats usual excuses I heard a lot of times here in Italy, they have only a cultural problem!

[@d1234as]

The biggest problem is that other mediterranean countries around southern Italy are poorer, while the richest countries are around northern Italy, so our best commercial partners are not on the other side of Mediterranean Sea, but on the other sides of Alps. Sea in Europe are important, but not so important like highways and railroads for moving goods (and people).

[@commenter4190]

how can be the south more trading than the north which bounders France, Switzerland and Austria? And which is the 2nd industrial manifacturer in Europe, having the largest number of little entreprises in the padanian plain of Lombardia, Veneto, Emilia? You americans scarcely can find Italy on the map, no suprise you can think that, especially because what you believe are the "italians" are mostly south italians emigrants who represent all the stereotypes you know!

[@HarryWessex]

Italy & Germany are weird in the fact the rich part isnt around the capital.

[@adrianzanoli]

Tbf, the Italian capital was in the North (Turin) and the German capital in the west (Bonn). For cultural/historical reasons they were moved to Rome and Berlin respectively.

[@jurrepos]

@@adrianzanoli You mean the capital moved BACK to Rome and Berlin. Bonn was never the capital of Germany, only West-Germany. Berlin was the capital since the start of the German Empire in 1871 and even of the (Brandenburg-) Prussia Kingdom/Dynasty the centuries before that. The same applies more or less to Rome. At the time the Kingdom of Italy was created, Rome was still under the control of Austria and the Papal States but still considered the capital of Italy. Only 10 years later in 1871 after it was captured, it became the official capital (instead of Florence and Turin before that).

[@HarryWessex]

@@adrianzanoli I knew Bonn was the German capital & Italy is a bit more complex, as Rome was last to join the Unification (or Lazio region was)

[@010shadowkiller]

16:47, the guy wearing glasses trips right at the end of the clip. 😂

[@RafaelusOptimus]

I'd encourage antbody visiting italy to visit the south. It's gorgeous, cheap and the people are fantastic. It already gets a lot of local tourists (people from the center or north go there to relax), but a few international tourists wouldn't hurt.

[@corymorimacori1059]

“Cause all I hear is threats from a brute with no discipline and I’m ruling over you like a boot full of my citizens!” Julius Caesar

[@johnlroyce]

Hail Caesar

[@-Osiris-]

Bars

[@ThomasJohansson-mo5gf]

Well, of course, tourism could potentially become a source of income and employment for the region, as is suggested at the end of the video, but tourism is never a good option for any country in the long term. It generates revenues, but most of it tends to go to foreign investors, while other industries get ignored, prime locations get transformed into hotel complexes or sold to foreigners, local populations get pushed aside, work ethics decline, populations become more lazy, and so on. In the long term, tourism has always been like a cancerous tumor for all countries that have invested in it. For better long term results, a country needs to focus primarily on education, building up its human capital, and finding ways of building real manufacturing and commercial industries based on its natural resources - while tourism tends to have the effect of making countries instead ignoring these things.

[@ThePanda9]

These videos are so high quality

[@GreatLiteShark]

High Quality Golden Garbage

[@ThePanda9]

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[@manuel-3500]

terun ^

[@Vasilis-gj2ep]

I have no idea about Italy’s history, but I really think his videos lack depth. I wouldn’t call them garbage(most of them at least), but many of them are not well researched, somewhat biased and somewhat sensationalist. He wants to get easy views, because KZbin is a business too. Also, what’s going on with all those people writing racist comments?

[@jacob4920]

I'm honestly amazed more people don't visit NAPLES (central Italy). Because I've been there. And it has so much to offer the visitor, in addition to being less than 100 miles from Rome, so a visit to Italy's capital is relatively simple, if your hotel is in Naples. The geographic vista of Naples is also second-to-none, on the entire peninsula itself! Maybe it's because Naples' proximity to Vesuvius (active volcano) scares tourists off. And that's a shame. Because Naples is a great city!

[@TheLimitBreaker]

The South needs to pull itself up by it's boot straps.

[@everburn]

😂nice

[@hightower6645]

Yes, for its people to migrate out to much more prosperous places.

[@Elaiyel]

@TheLimitBreaker - Yeah, like that ever works.

[@dulio12385]

I hate the north! -Furio (from the Sopranos)

[@animalshorts4377]

Moldova is pretty devided, I'd say even more than Italy.

[@Pancelotti]

Because of Transnistria? Nah

[@scorpx3790]

Finally, as an italian i can learn stuff i already know and feel happy it was brough to the light lol

[@alis1079]

almost every country has a rich north vs average south , well except Germany . while on a whole scale we got the whole earth as rich north and poor south

[@silliestsususagest3276]

The UK south is much richer then the North! Tho that historically is far more complex but yeah our North has only started to recover from the deindustrialization but the South as alway had far better agricultural output

[@alis1079]

You're correct , I said almost, it's a recurring theme in most countries

[@funghi2606]

Brazil, Australia, Japan …

[@Randall88503]

UK the south is far wealthier.

[@andyjay729]

@@silliestsususagest3276 And they of course have the UK's dominant city.

[@Snoy_Fly]

I think this happens in every country. One region tends to be richer than other regions.

[@nenasiek]

Yes but the diff is not always this extreme.

[@marcocarlson1693]

That's true, and so you have it right. But in Italy the "difference" between the north and south is mainly due to the fact that this is measured by data collected by the govt., which is normal in all countries. However, In Italy, that's all just Fiction. The govt. knows it, most all the people know it, and that's that. So it is what it is. The difference between the north and south in Italy is not soooo great as people are 'encouraged' to think.

[@ad_astra468]

Yes but in Italy the divide is extreme and toxic

[@c.j.3970]

Excellent work! Thank you