The Death Of Josh Taylor: Argument Turns Fatal (True Crime Documentary) | Real Stories

Eighteen-year-old Josh Taylor was killed after a petty argument turned deadly. Josh's sister and father speak about the tragic events of that night.
What made these young boys into killers?
True crime documentary featuring obscured reenactments.
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[@thatweirdgirl1977]

I really get annoyed with this type of program when inevitably someone says "ya know, like normal teenagers do" about damaging property, drinking, doing drugs, setting fires, starting fights... Um, no. Not normal!

[@jeremysmail6226]

False, that's normal sweetie.

[@NoBody-od2hu]

@@jeremysmail6226 I think you might be on drugs

[@MotorcycleMan79]

Yo...you just found out you were a loser in high school. That's rough.

[@soundcloudman6386]

I am 17 and I agree it’s not normal, it’s only normal if you do those activities

[@Samantha-cf1hn]

I think it depends on how you grow up you grow up learning and doing things like that on a daily basis is normal for those just like I see a rich person nose in the air calling others Peasants and believing what they say that's not normal to me but it is for them.. normal is different for everyone I guess you can say.. SAD but true..

[@Keela5]

That poor girl, the sister. For her to have to identify her brother AND take care of the funeral arrangements? Not to mention the verdict. Insane!

[@eliane9860]

wheres that intro song from

[@MSevelynjacobs]

I can't even imagine a family allowing a sixteen-year-old girl to have to identify her brother's body and take charge of all the funeral arrangements Etc. Definitely something wrong with this picture.

[@silenttoxic707]

@@MSevelynjacobs Some very questionable parenting going on here by every party involved.

[@tarawehry7105]

Good grief, how old is the sister, to have that responsibility on a girl.

[@tarawehry7105]

I can understand you wanting to kill him.

[@philippamediwake1235]

Did she say Josh was going out with a knife to slash tyres? And after drinking a vast amount of vodka & smoking cannabis! Sorry, something is seriously wrong with society & parenting. Why are kids allowed to roam the streets until two in the morning?

[@michelled5102]

My dad, a retired cop, always said (if I came home after curfew), "there's only two things on the streets after midnight, thieves and whores, which one are you"...

[@TheRealRhondaLee]

Maybe they were asleep and didn’t even know he was out of the house .

[@wandering_rose]

Right? I'm equally confused. What did they think the outcome would be?

[@Hollylivengood]

Didn't they say these guys were 18. I mean, that's not exactly kids. I was thinking that too, at first, then they were telling the ages.

[@e.e.3583]

In EU beer+wine is allowed from the age of 14 (with parents even younger), and they need to be at home at midnight (with their parents no limit). From 16 to 18 it is 02:00am (again no limits in company of parents). From 18 onwards no limits at all. Same with having intercourse: some countries have the age of 14, but definitely max. age 16 for all other countries. Parents have no say there at all.

[@melaniejonker8828]

My heart bleeds for his corageous sister who had to take over the role of being an adult, a parent. Holy cow ... Hope by now you have some support from your parents Sweetheart!

[@lorabellelorabelle6838]

Same.

[@Deborah4Antiques]

Agreed.

[@jenntopp1]

Screaming and terrorizing the streets, drinking till drunk, doing drugs, slashing tires is not "typical lad behavior" this is gang behavior.

[@BitterBetty76]

Not in school and no job at that age? They need something to do something that would tire them out for the night instead of walking around doing nothing but harm to others, property, and themselves. Ridiculous!!!!!

[@Hollylivengood]

That is very true. A lot of people would see that as a judgmental statement, but you see that kind of crime everywhere that jobs have closed down, so there must be a correlation. We have a city like that close to where I live, that everyone avoids, but if you drive through the place you see that everything is closed. Only places open are the tow yard and a pharmacy. People have to earn money some way, so there's crime.

[@BitterBetty76]

I myself live in a town that was once a mini Detroit in terms of the auto industry being the biggest employer in the town and surrounding area....and one day it packed up and left.... But crime isn't the answer & you won't find hope or money in the bottom of a liquor bottle.....and these are kids/young adults that parents should know what they're doing out so late and drinking so much and in general acting up/committing crimes out of pure boredom.

[@Hollylivengood]

@@BitterBetty76 Right, I'm not saying that crime is the answer to unemployment, just that it is an answer at all that some people turn to. You don't find a lot of crime where everyone is working, and able to live honestly. It's just a sad fact. Yes, the parents seem off, and the kids...all of them... are equally as off, but when you look at the employment levels, you can see it's a problem.

[@BitterBetty76]

@@Hollylivengood sorry if I came off sounding nasty to you it wasn't my intention. It's just frustrating to watch this kind of thing and not get wound up by it.... It is just so senseless and begs the question what will become of that generation? I don't know.......

[@Hollylivengood]

@@BitterBetty76 Cool beans, you're fine.

[@tamjk]

Why was a child - his sister - tasked with identifying his body? I understand the parents are grieving, but they should've protected her from this!

[@joelleheverin4795]

Yes. That’s too much for this young girl.

[@sonnypate6808]

Because she's the adult in that family. The mom and dad said sure go get drunk at the park. My son and daughter are grown and have thanked me a thousand times for being tough but fair with them. They've seen their friends go to prison and get on drugs and a couple were killed while driving. You are your children's parents not their friend at that age. Your duty is to raise them to where they can become your friend. When they are mature enough.

[@alisha8586]

I think she felt she needed to do that

[@alisha8586]

@@sonnypate6808 your kidding me right why are you blaming the parents I'm pretty sure the drinking age in the uk is alot younger then in the US they don't need there parents permission sadly and smoking weed over there is legal as well

[@0hMyLife]

I knew someone who had to do this. He identified his sister's body because their parents were so absolutely destroyed, HE wanted to protect his mom and dad from seeing their first born child that way. He chose to be the one stuck with that final memory of her, because he didn't want that for his mom or dad. He told me he felt like his sister wouldn't have wanted their parents to live with that, because living with burying a child is more than enough for a person to be burdened with. He felt it was his duty to his sister as well. The sister in this case may have had different reasons, but this might give you some insight into possibly what she was thinking.

[@Noneck1999]

How can he be found guilty of manslaughter? He deliberately went to his home and retrieved two knives, that’s first degree murder! And to add insult to injury, he may serve only four years!? Geese WTF 😳

[@iCarilloninChrist]

Exactly !! The death of Josh Taylor was TEXTBOOK CASE OF MURDER !! All of the elements of murder were involved!! It was a premeditated intent with malice, to do bodily harm knowing that a knife could provide a lethal blow. The jury needed to be educated on the difference between murder and manslaughter and that judge needs to step down !!

[@lissiejohnson5538]

Yeah. It was clearly premeditated.

[@captainmacruff1893]

I agree he's evil oh yes he stupid

[@user-gj1me4mf5c]

What do "geese" have to do with this case?

[@Noneck1999]

@@user-gj1me4mf5c Lol 😂 I meant a Z in there

[@chudleyflusher7132]

Some parents make their children stay home and study. Others let their children drink alcohol in the park all day and slash tires until 2:00 in the morning.

[@scruffy281]

Drinking vodka and slashing tires for entertainment? This is such a sad commentary. I hope that the community learns from this and organizes things for these young adults to do. In what direction are these unguided youths headed ? This is just so incredibly sad. I am so glad I don't have "friends" like this. God bless his family.

[@kateturner1849]

Exactly! Destroying municipal and private property is "normal", the "usual". This was inevitable because kids run around uncontrolled with no rules or responsibilities. Bottom line.

[@rebeccav9969]

They got no place to go, so they're going to do drugs and drink and commit crimes? It's nobody's job to entertain these hooligans!!! They should be in school or working. No excuse for this behavior. Straighten up or go to jail.

[@whitedragoness23]

Those are clear signs of someone with signs of trouble, they will either be rehabilitated or they will turn dark and violent.

[@Lakridza67]

Spot on! End neoliberalism’s influence on social policy💯

[@charmingbandit4725]

"The community learns from this and has to organize things for them"? Like this one boy said "we have to get drunk, because there's is nothing else to do"!? Wodka? At your age? No wonder your brain stopped developing itself. How about taking responsability for your own life? And where are the parents guiding these boys? How about not skipping classes and doing your homework? Or is that really very oldfashioned to say these days? Or helping out at the youth centre? Or taking up a hobby? Practising mechanics on old cars all together. You'd still be hanging out, but then in a useful way. Being outside drinking every night, kicking bins, making noise, slashing tires....what a total waste of spending your youth and actually ruining your brain like this. Incredible!

[@jasonpaul4629]

What an angel - getting high and slashing tires. I blame his parents. Seem pretty cavalier about getting drunk/high every day at the park.

[@ashleymadison9380]

Not just drunk and high on weed, but doing coke...

[@johnreid8115]

Always looking for someone to blame. Even if that's blaming the victim and his parent.

[@tabby73]

He was underage, doing drugs and committing crimes. Of course the parents are partly responsible. He didn't seem to have effective guidance.

[@24get24give]

well let's hope someone is as kind and charitable to you should something awful happen with one of your kids or someone you care about and I hope your parenting is 100% perfect and you have eyes in the back of your head to know what your kids are up to at every moment of every day we all try to, and sadly, we all fail to

[@beanybabyrabie]

Sorry, using drugs and alcohol to cope with mental health issues or as entertainment as MANY if not MOST young adults do (at least one of the two) and tbat doesn’t mean they’re bad people OR that their parents have failed. Perhaps the drinking age is 17 there, perhaps he was under peer pressure or felt the need to prove himself as “tough”

[@darthvadar2757]

He went home got 2 knives . Then verbally yelled his intent. Then with 1 swing he hit his mark. A intended spot. If it was not he would have aimed at a less thethal spot. It was murder. The clearest case of murder.

[@iCarilloninChrist]

@Darth Vader Concur !! The death of Josh Taylor was TEXTBOOK CASE OF MURDER !! All of the elements of murder were involved!! It was a premeditated intent with malice, to do bodily harm knowing that a knife could provide a lethal blow. The jury needed to be educated on the difference between murder and manslaughter and that judge needs to step down !!

[@janelle009]

Exactly

[@jacquietremain5743]

My God the sister calmly says that's what they doing slashing tiires as if it's completely acceptable.

[@marchennoonan3156]

That’s what Alcohol does. Makes some very aggressive

[@deevillarreal9475]

He would have never walked home for knives. Not manslaughter but Murder.

[@ledzepgirlnmful]

Absolutely heartbreaking. I don't understand how that Jury came to the conclusion of manslaughter and not murder... Unbelievable.

[@joelleheverin4795]

I agree. So sad.

[@joanbaczek2575]

Both boys were armed and josh hunted down Dylan. Dylan defended himself

[@curioustruthteller8510]

@@joanbaczek2575 DYLAN hunted down JOSH. The video repeats this 6 or even 7 times. Even showing the real videos of Dylan going out looking for Josh. To be clear it says Dylan went back to his house. Grabbed 2 knives and went back out yelling and screaming he was looking for Josh and "gonna f* him up" plus some. @ledzepgirlnmful I agree! It was full on murder (he went there with the intent to kill). Like the gal said, you don't stab someone in the heart super hard and expect them to go home that same night. Even my 6 year old knows if he did that it would most likely kill the person. Nobody in their right mind would believe that it was an accident well, except that ridiculous jury. The jury got it wrong and this man will be back in prison once he gets out bc he'll repeat the same crime but next time won't get away with it!

[@davenaflood8961]

@@joanbaczek2575to motion

[@TalariaeMotoAZ]

Ignorant lemmings

[@jessicavalentine4807]

My goodness these parents! “I got a daughter to think of”. Makes young daughter identify brother and plan a whole funeral. Also, let’s teen son out all hours of the night/morning. 🤦🏽‍♀️ it sounds like the both of these young men played a part in this death. He shouldn’t have chased him first and he shouldn’t have come back out with the knife. Sad all together.

[@beanybabyrabie]

He was 17. Christ. Not much could be done. Many siblings who have stepped up to identify have talked about the desire to spare their parents from that imagine as they’re already burying a child…. Personally I wouldn’t want anyone but me to identify my child but not everyone feels that way. Reserve your judgement.

[@HaleysArt]

If you watched the beginning, it says their mother moved the kids to a new town, so the father didn’t live near them.

[@safepethaven]

Drugs, alcohol, weapons, bored teens, immature Y chromosomes; what could possibly go wrong? Buffoons, all.

[@lizr990]

And where are the parents sorry but the sister making excuses for her brother

[@Chikara199]

I realize what a sheltered life I have lived when these people talk about "he doesn't have a bad bone in his body... but yeah, he and his friends slashed tires, tipped bins, destroyed things, skipped school, did weed, cocaine and drank themselves shitface on vodka... because you know, not much else to do..." as if it is the most normal thing in the world...

[@blushingviolet5928]

Right? 😂😂😂 Typical in certain circles perhaps.

[@Jess-pg5xb]

I understand that they were distraught but they further traumatized their daughter by emotionally pulling away and forcing her to deal with everything herself. So sad

[@cruisepaige]

She’s suffered so much!

[@abbycatlover2013]

That's alot to put on a young teenager to do. She will be traumatized for life.

[@honeybunch5765]

I think they are simpletons, the daughter is the more intelligent one. Not saying they are bad people, they are just not the average emotionally intelligent parents.

[@Ams_5590]

Seems like they weren't very present in general. Their young kids are just out popping bottles & tires.. and murdering apparently.

[@debbiehellionandtheapocaly845]

You can't judge we have no idea how they felt or what they had someone on their side to be able to do that but they didn't so judgy it's actually pretty evil.

[@PB-qe6ce]

I understand the parent grief but to put everything on their teenager daughter shoulders was a little too much, can't imagine how that affected her.

[@JaneDoe-rj4jn]

Both Josh and Dylan seemed to have issues. I know family wants to defend their loved ones memory; but he seemed just as messed up and violent.

[@wc5436]

Totally agree with you.

[@lizr990]

Factz

[@janetflier6192]

How “Wholesome” can these boys be when they skip school, spend all day drinking and doing drugs, and slash tires at night??? They really needed some adult direction.

[@fredjones554]

"He was no angel" aka alcohol, Marijuana, violence, property damage, concealed weapons, assault = Josh. There is a lack of balance in this documentary

[@patmitchell2389]

Just cause he had issues as well doesn’t justify the other boy hunting him down and killing him

[@kidShibuya]

How can murderers always find absolute angles of people to kill? I mean this kid was a school dropout gang fighting on the streets with weapons, but arent the best of us? So sick of this BS. Murder is bad enough, we don't need to make out victims were great people.

[@alison4316]

Teens shouldn't be doing cocaine or drinking. Don't get me wrong, the perpetrator shouldn't have stabbed his mate in the chest, either....but kids' brains aren't done developing at this age.

[@verballyabusiveclown6290]

Beside the point.

[@andreamyerson6521]

What makes this even more tragic (if that's possible) is that this family truly got along, accepted, loved and cherished each other. The way Josh took care of his sister just brought tears to my eyes. No doubt, it would have been a lifelong loving relationship between the siblings. That's a big deal. Dillon may only have to serve 8 years but he's going to have a terrible time of it for as long as he lives. The judge used the wrong words to say what he wanted. They seemed to minimize the incident. Lucy my heart hurts for you. Josh was lucky to have a sister like you while he was here on earth.

[@MSevelynjacobs]

That family didn't all get along, the parents were divorced. Obviously the child was looking for something else if he was out drinking and doing drugs. We can't stand in Judgment of anybody, unless we walk in their shoes and we can't do that.

[@maryannswanson3832]

@@MSevelynjacobs BS that is why we go to church and learn to live with respect and love. We all have the right to judge right from wrong!

[@moecuspocus]

I've just started watching and you have moved me with your words alone. I'm thankful for people like you. You give me hope.

[@cherijoseph7819]

@@maryannswanson3832 Which church does that?

[@Lakridza67]

@@maryannswanson3832 I didn’t go to church to learn to be kind and good toward others. My parents taught me that lesson!

[@janicekamalski5938]

Slashing tires is not normal lad behavior. It's thug behavior.

[@WoodysOpinion101]

Speaking from experience are you?

[@janicekamalski5938]

@@WoodysOpinion101 well since I consider my behavior normal, yea, haven't slashed any tires. Lol. Whether I'm actually normal or not is subjective I guess.

[@christinet.4159]

Thug wannabe

[@christinet.4159]

Behavior he was trying to be a thug

[@janicekamalski5938]

@@christinet.4159 Must be easy cheesy If you have no conscience (sp?).

[@lulufavs4519]

How these parents think it’s ok for kids to be out at 1:00am; drinking and drugging to boot?! Irresponsible!

[@jamesharden7459]

He didn't deserve to die tho..wtf wrong with u society robots

[@kateturner1849]

Exactly!

[@FrgvDntFrgt8060]

Nothing good ever happens after midnight.

[@jesicalynn4299]

@@FrgvDntFrgt8060 That's what I always say!👌

[@loriepaix6391]

I'm with you... I was commenting on one video about the dangers of sneaking out at night. Someone replied indignantly that she and her friends used to do it and she believed it was a normal part of teenage life. I didn't respond. I never snuck out and none of the friends I had snuck out. The young people who have no boundaries are much more likely to be the parents who see nothing wrong with their kids drinking or roaming the streets. It's a cycle of permissiveness that can result in serious problems.

[@vivien2088]

Carrying knives, slashing tires...neighborhood delinquents....Epitome of play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[@FoxyCAMTV]

I see a lot of petty jealousy in 21st century.It comes from a complete desrespect for yourself, like extreme low self esteem and incapability of seeing the bigger picture.

[@theonewiththeface6258]

Bless his sister ❤️ I couldn't fathom the pain she feels. What a warrior!

[@ReynaDPerez]

Where were the parents’ supervision in all this ?? Drinking, doing drugs at 1 am ? What did they expect?

[@bradrigsby8808]

Nothing better to do? Go to school! Get a job!!

[@kateturner1849]

This girl saying breaking street lights etc is the "usual" or "normal" is ridiculous! If we had broken municipal property we would have been frog marched to the police for an apology and would have to work at anything to pay the damage. This crime was inevitable. Control your kids! As for the "usual" cocaine?????? Control your children!!!!! 😡 A boy is dead for nothing because this rubbish behaviour was considered "normal". Ridiculous 😡

[@justinparkerthewildwolf6394]

I came from a rough neighbourhood and never vandalised or stole cars or have ever had cocaine. I don't want to upset my sister or anyone else

[@poetcomic1]

If I came out and found my tires slashed, I might have had some murderous thoughts, at least for a moment.

[@thetruthandnothingbutthetr6484]

Lord look at these THUGS

[@junesilvermanb2979]

LORD, have mercy!

[@JeanneKolenda]

WHERE were parents while kids were out drinking and up to nothing productive every evening? And the sister talks about it as though it were normal. Ignorance all the way around. Sad ending.

[@jaktharipper2768]

Thats what teenagers do . Even the smart responsible people in my high school hung out and had some drinks and smoked a little . Ask your kids after they move out .

[@oldhickory4686]

Shows you how low moral standards are today.

[@thatsroughbuddy1133]

@@jaktharipper2768 Nah. Not all teens are like that my dude.

[@jaktharipper2768]

My main point was : drinking or using drugs isn't inherently immoral , or wrong , and definitely doesn't mean it was their fault .

[@brianshorey]

Just an innocent night out, drinking, drugs, vandalism.. Sorry, but neither of these two seem innocent here. Both were pretty inebriated, both were armed, Josh actually seemed to have chased Dylan around (with a knife) for some time, .. Tragic series of events, but it's not like Dylan was stalking an innocent Josh up to that point. In fact it seems like Josh was stalking Dylan for most of the evening. Doesn't excuse what happened, but I can understand how this was found to be manslaughter and not more. My heart goes out to all of them, such a waste.

[@philippamediwake1235]

Absolutely agree with you

[@theworldofittibitti5890]

Exactly 💯

[@starv88]

Yep, very easily could have been the other one dead instead of whatever his name was...

[@FlyyHigh834]

I agree

[@Revelation19_11]

I love how they are like “he broke his little speaker and he got mad over that for some reason”. I think anyone would be mad at that? Lol. I mean I wouldn’t kill someone over that but I can see anyone getting mad

[@linz0mbie]

He premeditated it by deliberately going to his house to arm himself

[@anovemberstar]

"they were both really druni, high on cannibals and both had knives" that sums it up in a nutshell. It really could have been either one of them who ended up dead. If it were my brother I'm sure I'd feel the same way as his family, but can they jot see that Josh too, was at just as much risk of being a perpetrator in similar circumstances?

[@marieslabbert6009]

Lucy is by far the strongest member of the family. She arranged the whole funeral, without the help of any of her parents. Kids nowadays think drinking and taking drugs are cool, but so many deaths occur when these two substances are taken together. It is a lethal combination. It seems also that the children were left mostly to fend for themselves. The father is not living with them and the mother is totally absent. It is a miracle that Lucy is such a "stable" girl. Drinking has been the thing to do for the youth and older people in the UK for decades, which lead to a serious moral decline in the UK.

[@beeeeeeeee7951]

He was ONLY 16????? Omg even after the scream killers I still can’t wrap my head around kids killing people. It’s definitely a combination of mental health and family abandonment

[@muhammadnada9433]

This a big problem ,thinking that 16 y old is a child .I don’t know where these numbers come from 16 is a child 18 is an adult ??!! .Their acts tell they are aware of what they do

[@beeeeeeeee7951]

@@muhammadnada9433 exactly!!!! Obviously there’s cases where you feel sorry for the attacker(very rare) and wish the “tried as an adult” wasn’t a thing but definitely not in this guy’s case at all. 18 really isn’t that far from 16. At 16 I was making decisions for myself without my parents

[@damienholland8103]

@Jess Piedra Their brains aren't fully developed. Poorer impulse control.

[@MSevelynjacobs]

@@beeeeeeeee7951 so was I and everything we do is a choice

[@alex-qd6of]

It's not about knowing right from wrong. A six-year-old knows right from wrong. It's about having a physiological immature brain, that doesn't work like an adults. There's a reason the drinking age was raised from 18 to 21

[@lauriedmills7581]

They ALL played with fire so why is being burnt such a surprising consequence? Young males, drunk, stoned, bored from lack of meaningful work, trained to expect to be entertained & entitled for life to bring things to them (I refer specifically to the school system here) - this was kerosene just waiting for its match. Very sad, very common and very hard to blame just one person, ie Dylan, for the whole scenario. I wish everyone the best.

[@Alicia-BG]

My goodness, why did the sister had to take up on what the adults (parents, aunts, uncles, etc) should've done. Yes, she said that her mother was bedridden or something but what about the father?

[@willfanofmanyii3751]

As shown in the video, the dad's mentally gone.

[@somethingaboutbeaute]

I’m not sure if anyone else caught this but why wasn’t his mom charged with Tampering with Evidence, Obstruction as well as Aiding and Abetting at minimum after cleaning the knife??!

[@lisaeakright4386]

Slashing tires. That tells a lot about these people 🙄

[@thatJAWNraps]

the clown talking about how weed caused this is a joke - it was alcohol and hormones/testosterone and big ego's - if they JUST smoked weed, they wouldve had a laugh about the speaker, not a fight to the death 🤷‍♂

[@jerrydeena8863]

I cudnt agree more 😂😂😂 3 bottles of Vodka n d clown blamed d weed. Guess ppl who never tried it r more paranoid. A joke it was. Wat happened to d boy is terrible .but blame d actual causes.

[@flossykapoloma331]

Like fr people smoke weed everyday and don’t commit murder

[@chandrabrown1622]

I can absolutely agree! I smoke nearly everyday and it does not make me want to slash tires and cause mayhem. I have been smoking since the age of 15. A single mother of two sons who now have successful careers of their own and I can proudly say that neither has not been in any situations that involve the police and they did not roam the streets or cause damage to anyone's property. They also made sure to hang with friends that have the same morals that I taught them. And I'm not the only one. Almost all of my friends and siblings smoke and none of us in my entire life on this earth has done any real damage on this earth and we taught our kids the same and hopefully when I have grand kids they will be the same. I said all that to say this; I honestly get so upset when people blame straight marijuana for destructive behavior when in reality, they all the time had other substances as well. Even when people get paranoid, they tend to wanna be alone, at home and then those people most times won't even smoke anymore so I call BULLS***!🤷🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🙄

[@scallopohare9431]

Weed can cause some people to get paranoid. Not everyone, but some.

[@geminidream4347]

I can't believe the jury made the call they did!! You can clearly see his deliberation of stabbing his friend! Even the cab driver said he could feel how hard it was. I don't blame the family for feeling justice was not done because it wasn't. I feel so sad for the family and the other friend who is struggling with guilt. I do hope someone gets him grief counselling because he should not have to carry this into his future. If you are reading this yourself, you are NOT at fault in anyway! Even if you had gone back, it would of happened anyway, the other boy was to far out of control and you could of been killed as well for trying to interfere or just because you were a witness. Then that monster would of destroyed two families instead of one! The only fault, the only blame and the only guilt is one the hand that trust the knife!!!

[@deyadna]

Someone bribes the jury, that's it.

[@wilsal2485]

I wonder if Josh having the knife earlier & saying let's get him had anything to do with it. 18:50 i'm not saying it's ok i'm just trying to make sense of how he got manslaughter.

[@geminidream4347]

@@wilsal2485 That is a possibility when the young are drunk with a lot of people around yelling do it or in this case only one planting the seed. I have found that if this had not been the scenario, it would not of happened or escalated as high as it did. As It traps a person to where they get confused about their honour or what will people say if I don't. So extremely hard for the young today with social media and hate comments that can destroy a life all on it's own. No one wants to be labeled a coward.The police obviously didn't do their job and neither did the jury who should have been presented with that evidence in which case they would their are charges that could have been laid on the other one as well. Good catch, I never heard this.

[@geminidream4347]

@@deyadna That is a possibility however I feel that is his age. Juries are usually made up of people with children. Mindsets are made up of children are innocence. Therefore looking at their childlike face, it's hard to believe them of doing anything horrific. I'm sure you've heard parents say My son/daughter would never do that? And the terrifying fact that the parents absolutely believe this to be the truth! This happens as a reaction to their parenting. Which is just not the case! I made deals with my kids when I knew that they could understand and the one that would apply here is: I want you to look me in the eye and give me your word you did not do this. Children lie for various reasons, so you need to have a definite way of knowing the truth. So do NOT use this for everything! It is meant for dire straights only! This was mine. They would confess even if they knew there would be consequences. This also teaches them early about actions and reactions.

[@iCarilloninChrist]

The death of Josh Taylor was TEXTBOOK CASE OF MURDER !! All of the elements of murder were involved!! It was a premeditated intent with malice, to do bodily harm knowing that a knife could provide a lethal blow. The jury needed to be educated on the difference between murder and manslaughter and that judge needs to step down !!

[@Itsjustash04]

My heart aches for his sister. That sweet girl had to do something truly unthinkable. I had to make the decision of taking my dad off life support when I was 24. He was 52. Hardest thing in my life. She should have NEVER been put in that position. I'm a mother of 2 myself now and I'd never ever allow my child to be in charge of identifying and planning her sisters funeral if I was still alive myself. Never. You protect your children. They have one left. Protect her.

[@ms.suzanna2511]

My heart goes out to Josh's family, The minute Dylan went home, "armed" himself with the two kitchen knives left home again - that shows intent to commit a deadly act - how Dylan got 8 years for manslaughter I don't know - sounds like premeditated murder to me -

[@danielbrown1724]

I’m from England originally but I live in FL. I’m ashamed of the UK justice system. You can murder your gf or another person and it seems 8 years is the average jail time you’ll get. “Off you go then, slap on the wrist,” Disgusting Sorry Lucy, you two seem like such an awesome sibling team 😔💜🙏🏻

[@24get24give]

don't be it's no more embarrassing than US politics has been for the past 8 - 10 years or so wheels turn and things will go right again for a while before turning around again. what interests me is why the UK seems to have so many killers who are kids themselves from Mary Bell to the ten-year-old boys who kidnapped a toddler from a shopping mall then tortured and killed him any ideas on why that could be?

[@Rihardololz]

Canada has same thing as UK.

[@beanybabyrabie]

@@24get24give it’s DEFINITELY much worse than in the US. Don’t be so willfully ignorant. Typically speaking, a murder like this would warrant life in prison. Period. UK is light on pedophiles too. Shocker

[@ojdidit327]

Imagine going through this and not getting Justice...wow

[@vanessakelly6022]

Love by the sword die by the sword

[@builtinsuspicion]

Neither boy was an angel, but Dillon definitely meant to kill Josh that night & it was premeditated, why else go home & get bigger knives then go out screaming at the top of his lungs for Bonehead to come on. I really don't understand how the jury arrived at the verdict that they did??? I wonder how safe the people of this community will feel when he gets out of jail in 4-8 years time??? I know I would be worried, if Dillon is capable of murdering his friend at the age of 16 what will he be capable of when he's released, especially since he was let off with a slap on the wrist for murder.

[@barbaralindhjem2488]

Who's the wally excusing a murderer by basically saying 'boys will be boys'. This wasn't an immature young male making himself look like a hard man...this is a hard man in the making. The kid needs heavy psych help not excuses

[@janethammer9501]

I’m so sorry for Josh’s family loss! The guy(Dylan) should have got more prison time. I can only hope that he acknowledges his wrongdoing that night and does something productive when he’s released. He should also write to the ones he hurt most and ask for forgiveness.

[@j.michaeljefferson60]

Imagine how this girl would feel if her brother lived and the other boy died it could easily have gone this way

[@careip]

8 yrs for murder. That's even worse.

[@WhoIsAmaze]

Makes you appreciate the system we have here huh

[@aabahdjfisosososos]

Muh rehabilitation

[@WhoIsAmaze]

Sooooo…. Did anyone else notice how they blame smoking weed for this poor kids death? …..not the alcohol? …..what?

[@alison4316]

Right

[@corynnelizabeth5651]

Alcohol, 3 bottles of vodka (shared or not) with teenagers, is in my opinion more dangerous than smoking some weed - maybe the combination of the two isn't good but I don't believe it was JUST the weed 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@philippamediwake1235]

Did i miss something?

[@kimberlyhood4095]

It's a load of propaganda, they've been trying to shove that down our throats since Reefer Madness in the 1930's! Gangster's became gangster's because of the prohibition of alcohol.

[@Papachongo1972]

The daughter is the strongest person in this whole video . She became more adult then her parents that night .

[@msv488]

I'm sorry it doesn't tug at my heartstrings.... they were trouble makers the way they were going it was either one of them or some other innocent person who ran into them.

[@bkfresh7885]

It’s still a life and a loss

[@SeaStarrs]

@@bkfresh7885 not really

[@bkfresh7885]

@@SeaStarrs And who asked u

[@scallopohare9431]

@@bkfresh7885 Those boys are housed, clothed, fed, even have hot and cold running water and indoor toilets, and could be educated, if they chose. They have lives that most of our ancestors could not dream of.

[@lindalopez2826]

Ironic that Josh was angry when his speaker was broken but felt it was perfectly okay for him to damage his neighbor's things. His death was a simple case of you reap what you sow. He threatened someone with a knife and ended up getting stabbed. It's weird that Lucy is haunted by Dillon's voice but not by her refusing to take a minute to stop her brother when she saw him grab a knife (she knew he was going to slash innocent peoples tires .....fabulous role model for her.....and just shrugged it off as her "hero" big brother just having fun with his mates). It's not surprising that she had to do all the adult things when it came to her brother's death, obviously her parents had no control in the family letting their son quit school and be a full time hoodlum was their best attempt at parenting.

[@ivorlongshot]

How kids can say they have nothing to do is ridiculous, there are so many more facilities for kids than there ever was back in my day. Yes we had a disco on a Thursday night, one night out of seven, we didn't have parks or bespoke football courts, we had either play football using coats and tops as posts or go down the woods to make Dens. Kids these days are far better off.

[@jenf6489]

Noticing Dillon’s broken nose and crescent shaped scar under his eye, at such a young age, are obvious signs of previous trauma, abuse, possibly ? It’s sad that there is no one representing Dillon’s family, to see how that dynamic worked. Or didn’t work, besides, his mom threatening to abandon him…. Such a horrible thing to happen, to both boys…

[@johnreid8115]

Don't forget who the victim is here.

[@diy_cat9817]

@@johnreid8115 it's not a contest. A victim of abuse created another victim.

[@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826]

Abuse? Or streetfighting?

[@beanybabyrabie]

@@diy_cat9817 LMAO nice assumption. You have zero evidence of his being abused. Could be from fighting, drunken falls or self-harm

[@johnreid8115]

@@diy_cat9817 am I suppose to feel sorry for the killer?

[@joselopez-hj5iz]

Although my sister wasn't murdered I went to see her in the ICU and couldn't stand to be there 5 minutes because it didn't look like her. Her face/body was so mangled and beat up that it filled my heart with sorrow. I was 20 [now 25] and she was 21[ would've been 26] and I had to go get her ashes from the mortuary. Hardest day of my life by far and I recall sitting outside in the car for 20 minutes crying before entering to get them. My prayers out to everyone involved in this tragedy and I feel your pain even if not the same. His sister is soo soo strong she has no idea. God Bless you 💙💙

[@NIX5s]

Damn… I had a one best friend stab another in a drunken argument. Luckily he didn’t die. My buddy did do a couple years for it! They are not such friends now, but are able to be in the same room together without arguing. I can see how it happens…. Very sad.

[@atlsweet]

I ain’t being in the same room with nobody that stabs me. No

[@scruffy281]

I can't see how this happens at all. I guess it depends how you are raised.

[@pommiebears]

I can’t see how you pull a knife. Unless it’s a life or death situation…. I can’t see why you’d pull a knife.

[@davidng8870]

My friend was stabbed in the leg at a party when he was 13 or 14. Knowing him he was probably giving the perpetrator a hard time but still 😱

[@Lakridza67]

My brother got stabbed by his best friend over a girl. My brother almost died! Daryl, the guy who stabbed my brother ended up killing himself because he couldn’t live with the reality of what he had done. My brother lived and married a psychologist!

[@ddobry21]

Glad they caught this guy but I find it disturbing how much a person is on camera in England. Basically if you're outside, you're on camera.

[@Abc-vn9vy]

So glad the off duty officer got his phoneout to record like any other immature teenager would

[@wc5436]

I was thinking about that. I was thinking why didn't he call the police?

[@WouldntULikeToKnow.]

Yeah, pretty sure he should have called the cops AT THE VERY LEAST. Aren't they supposed to be trained to diffuse situations in the UK?

[@judithjohnson4265]

I in

[@annamarielewis7078]

They keep saying they don’t have anything to do. Why don’t they get JOBS⁉️

[@sallydegenhardt5836]

This is so sad. Lucy. Remember to embrace your life, do what you dream of. Your Josh will be w you forever, no matter what.

[@alejandroperalta2203]

The thing that pissed me off is that off duty cop just filming ur a cop no matter what time it is if there are kids fighting like that call you mates on duty get them there and u go out and help calm the situation

[@HumanimalChannel]

He could have just yelled out! He was probably scared to go outside, but he sh poulded have yelled from his door to let them know they were being watched. Maybe it could have been prevented, perhaps it would have just delayed the inevitable.

[@scallopohare9431]

Yeah, right. Let an unarmed officer confront TWO boys with knives. Now, that just might have brought the two frienemies back together, united in killing a common foe.

[@berrylee6787]

Don't let any one call you a nickname that is hurtful. You can stop them the first time they call you THAT. It's their way to build themselves up by tearing you down. It never ends well

[@kateturner1849]

And that's the first mistake. Rather teach your kids not to be "hurt" by words. It's ridiculous. Teach them to be tough mentally - the world is not a powder puff 😡

[@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826]

The dad looks so sad. Wonder where he was while his son was out drinking, snorting coke and committing crimes.

[@Dodgethis1337]

what happened is sad indeed, but what did you expect? idk if his parents knew...doubt it, but these teens didn't even mature 100% + alcohol use + drugs + cocaine, and their free time/entertainment = slashing tires/loud music/kicking trash bins.

[@chandrabrown1622]

OMG! I've listened to so many of these cases and some have made me extremely sad, some have had me damn near frothing at the mouth in anger(🤷🏿‍♀️), and some have even left me totally confused... But this case managed to make me feel all of these things and more! Seeing this crime through the sisters POV is having such a weirdly profound effect on me... I've seen the parents of the deceased, the friends, and other family members and I've seen siblings too but I think what hurts/touches me the most is the fact that his sister is still a child compared to the parents...idk but it really made me think about one day these same things might fall to me and I don't know if I'm strong enough as a woman who is almost 45 years old and compared to me, this baby girl was an absolute ROCK when everyone around her fell apart. She stood up and made sure her brother was sent on very nicely and made sure her parents could grieve... The only thing is, my heart breaks wondering if she has had a chance to grieve her only sibling? How hard this had to be without the added responsibility she just did without a grumble because she wanted to make sure things were as close to perfect as possible for her brother.... This young lady is so strong and I sincerely hopes she knows this and is appreciated by those around her. I hate that this happened and I almost feel sorry for the perpetrator but I can't fully feel bad for him because he is, in my opinion, lying about what he intended that night. There are too many facts that point towards intent. Idk what the jury was thinking except more than likely they didn't want to believe a kid that young could really intend to kill someone. How in TF they could NOT know that some kids can be very mean and intentional in their actions despite a young age.... I hope that she finds herself again because she really deserves a happy full life! Peace and positive vibes for the family and friends of Josh!! RIP Josh!

[@THEOLYMPIAGUY360]

But what was his intentions that night when he chased down the other boy? What was he planning to do when he pulled a knife and told the others let’s get him? So he’s already started fights with 2 of his friends, Broke ones property. Pulled a knife 🔪 and chased him to the point the boy felt he needed to risk his life climbing a building to protect himself. Sounds like a total angel absolutely cold blooded murder. 🤨

[@brianbailey3182]

I can't believe how quick his sister had to suddenly stand up and take charge of everything, what an amazing girl,RESPECT,

[@einienj3281]

Kids, drunk and in drugs, killing each other.. horrible.. absolutely horrible.. Maybe it's time to make changes in the "guy culture".. never should your pride or need for "manliness"/save face result to violence and murder..

[@kateturner1849]

Forget the guy culture - fix the parent culture 🙄 It starts there.

[@angelaa3732]

Oh, geez...I thought I was a bad kid...this is crazy!! Thank you for spreading the word.

[@un0travieso]

Cannabis use and/or abuse "CAN" increase paranoia, not "WILL" increase paranoia. It really depends on a variety of factors, any combination of which "MAY" increase paranoia.

[@MomOnFire]

Gosh! This poor girl is the ultimate victim in this story. She grew up overnight.

[@debisybesma5855]

been a "smoker" many a years at various times over my life and i NEVER have become "enraged, freaked out, PARANOID etc etc". given the choice of being in a room full of drunks or a room full of stoners, i'd take the stoners anytime....but that's jus' me....

[@scoooter78]

Many people get paranoia from weed (I suppose it could be called a "freak out"). Enraged, not so much.

[@kimberlyhood4095]

Drunks are extremely annoying if you aren't drunk with them, I've seen perfectly calm people go from 0-60 in seconds and be raging. Smoking is usually a trip to the refrigerator in 0-60! Lol

[@GypsyGirl23]

Exactly! All the efforts to keep weed illegal yet no one in history has ever died from weed, no road fatality caused by weed (as opposed to alcohol and prescription drugs) and if anything people alot more chilled after a smoke. I too would take the room full of smokers over drinkers anytime!!!!

[@pickledragonrebel]

Any paranoia I've have seen from pot smokers is of the cops lol

[@treegirl]

He slashed the tire to put fear and shock in Josh and the boy who told Dylan off , Josh protects other friend tells him to go home .Dylan was jealous of Josh, and his friendship with the other boy. Later Dylan was raging inside because Josh protected his friend. Dylan was always going to kill, no matter, period". The killer knew he was going to put the knife in Josh's chest ..

[@christinesimpson6529]

Stupid stupid judge and jury they will come to regret their decision because this psychopath will reofend not accepting ANY responsibility for what he done Lucy is the only adult in this very sad case parents too upset to do anything what if Lucy had already left home ??? You both placed much more extra trauma on her when she should have been allowed to grieve with you to rely on the only true love in this is brother and sister Lucy please have the best life you can, my brother was killed when I was 17yo I'm 70yo now still think of him every day

[@akiraasmr3002]

@21:25 I like how the old man is blaming weed for this and doesn't say a thing about the alcohol involved lol.

[@thatsroughbuddy1133]

Or the cocaine.

[@getz1983]

They need to get him when he gets out

[@charmaihargrove]

Ok I am just gonna say: if you know one person is known for violent tendencies, why "pretend" to go after them with a knife and be surprised when they come back with a knife? I mean.. that really was a dumb idea

[@micamans]

All of the lads drinking large amounts of hard spirits is no doubt the catalyst for this whole situation. Josh was chasing the perpetrator home with a small knife earlier with the others, that seems to me to be somewhat of a provocation to what ultimately happened. Considering all of that I think the sentence was reasonable, even though it's a sad story for all involved. Alcohol can do more than you think and turn people savage.

[@jenniferprince2674]

My nephew was born 2 days after this kid, March 5th 2001. To think that my nephew is now 21 and experiencing that young adult life, it’s really sad to hear that a boy born days apart had his life snatched from him and his family. To think his family was holding him as a baby the same time I was holding my nephew as a little baby is chilling. In 2001 who would have thought that beautiful bouncing baby boy would be taken so young. It’s not fair to this family. I will probably think of Josh Taylor now every time I get so see my nephew or talk to my nephew. This isn’t fair and my heart goes out to his family and his little sister.

[@Gurl-5150]

Justice on England is not justice in most cases, not just this one.

[@Dyejob01]

So sad, it's so so sad!!!

[@emiliestratman4153]

R.I.P. Josh....May both families find some kind of peace....

[@flossykapoloma331]

I love that lady saying when u put a knife in someone’s heart are u intending them to go home later like honestly the system is corrupt

[@rosemarietaylor6000]

I feel so bad for you guys. If you ever read this, I would not know how to go on without my brother. I think I might die moments later. Ilove that this young lady as pushed on! God Bless

[@dionesiemion1865]

Causing trouble, smashing things and being loud and obnoxious is NOT a normal teenage thing. I really wish people would stop saying that because it’s like giving permission to these unbalanced kids with raging hormones and emotions to act a fool. It’s normal to laugh and goof around yes but throwing rocks and bottles at stuff and starting fires and disrespecting elders is not normal or acceptable. I really wonder what the jury would say if his sister did the exact same to him. Or if one of their kids got a butcher knife in the heart.

[@Pants69]

Doing drugs and slashing tyres, and they speak of it like it's normal.

[@ashleymadison9380]

That one kids haircut is almost as tragic as Josh's death.

[@SnickasBah]

He’s cute.

[@yifath5162]

What a rotten rotten justice system!!! If this is not murder, I don’t know what murder is…

[@shanerr7252]

22:08 that's absolute rubbish I used to be a chronic user and never have or had paranoia or any of the symptom's. And I was high for like 8 years

[@pickledragonrebel]

I am not against weed in any way but I have seen paranoia in many ppl who've taken it. I myself never have though. It does happen but not to the point if violence I blame that on the acholol and the person

[@lrod8721]

All in fun, they were just drinking, smoking weed, taking coke, slashing tires, they’re all punks, delinquents. Who gives them money for all this “fun”. It tell me a lot when the sister has to identify her brothers body, non existent parents

[@אילייןלוי]

Alcohol will do it every time..people get drunk and get violent!😡😡😡

[@abocas]

How can You go looking for someone armed with a knife, kill that person and then get away with manslaughter? Not murder?

[@MamaThornhill]

That jury were idiots. Justice was not served here and a murderer is back out on the streets to murder again when he gets mad.

[@janetrawlings1691]

Every parent wants more for their children than they had,better than 🤔😢🤔💔