Reanimating the 1561 Celestial Phenomenon over Nuremberg

Thanks so much for watching!
Creative notes on animation:
I think first and foremost I should say that’s there’s obviously a good amount of artistic license I’ve had to take in terms of movement but where the document wasn’t clear I tried to strike a balance between movement that could be natural phenomenon and something that’s actually controlling it’s own movement. The white flashes aren’t mentioned, only that there is some period of climax or concluding moment to the combat preceding the wreckage falling to earth, so I thought that struck a nice balance between demonstrating a deliberate edit there and some final clash in the conflict. It also let me hide all the layers I didn’t need and if you hadn’t noticed that was literally my first ever attempt at animating something so I was taking any help I could get. Overall I’d say I tried to balance decisions between religious imagery, the music for example and potentially natural phenomenon, things like shadows, lens flares and halos and then ufo like movement in other areas where it made sense such as the orbs fighting. In the hopes that ultimately these decisions wouldn’t bias it too strongly in any one direction. Really I made it as I saw it after a great length of time studying the document, a mix of natural and artificial phenomenon presented with a heavy religious tilt.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
02:56 Credits
03:04 The Celestial Phenomenon Over Nuremberg Animation
04:57 Further Discussion

[@Conspiratorial]

If you just want the standalone animation for linking/sharing you can find it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZu7gpavl6h1iLc&ab_channel=Conspiratorial

[@susielynn7916]

You have THE BEST voice! And you narrate the stories with perfect timing and intonations. I could listen to your stories all day! 🙂

[@josephgorozdos603]

This video was incredibly well done, it deserves way more attention. Great work!

[@cliffbowls]

I’m all for scepticism but the sun dog explanation is more ridiculous than the idea of an actual battle as

[@billbombshiggy9254]

Exactly. That is the most idiotic idea.

[@elJossu]

That was great editing. Its sad to see such great videos get so little attention in the algorithm. I hope youll get more attention. Great video.

[@6r3nt0nt]

This is brilliantly done. Great video!

[@lostmojo]

Good job. Well, one thing is a report about some strange creatures in a land far far away, another thing is a report about an event in a well renowned city like Nürnberg. As far as I remember the fallen object was saved in a gallery until not long ago.

[@oscartang4587u3]

Wows great quality video, just get into my recommendations, this channel should go boom.

[@vinnyg3143]

The German Wikipedia article for the event has a much beefier section on interpretations. I know Wikipedia's not the best source, but it does have some interesting points, the most relevant of which I will share the translations of (corrected for grammar). "Skeptics and historians, such as Ulrich Magin, first draw attention to two serious inconsistencies in Glaser's woodcut: For example, it is not clear why the famous imperial castle is missing from the depiction of the city, even though it was the landmark of Nuremberg in Glaser's time. On the other hand, the woodcut shows St. Leonhard's Church burning, although it was completely destroyed in a fire in 1508 and was only rebuilt in 1560. According to the Nuremberg city documents, Hans Glaser stayed in the city between 1540 and 1571; He must have been aware of this historical event. [Based on] the historical and chronological discrepancies, according to Magin, the woodcut strengthens the assumption that the Nuremberg leaflet mixes several events and natural celestial phenomena that took place at different times." "Meteorology also deals with early modern leaflets on which “heavenly miraculous signs” can be seen. The background is the observation that many depictions depict real celestial phenomena of all kinds. The most common of these celestial spectacles include halos, [sundogs], solar eclipses, lunar eclipses, northern lights and shooting stars. According to meteorologists, the famous Nuremberg leaflet from 1561 most likely recorded a morning halo phenomenon including several [sundogs]. According to Frank Johnson, this is supported by both the two "crescent moons", which were probably moved behind the sun for reasons of space, and the fact that, according to the report, the event lasted silently for over an hour. The large black “spearhead” may be due to so-called cloud rays (also called “twilight shadows”). Since Hans Glaser mentions an increase in “heavenly miraculous signs” in “recent times” in his report, it is also conceivable for Johnson that several celestial phenomena perceived at different times were artistically summarized in the painting." The argument being made in the second quote is that the reason so many things don't fit with meteorological explanations is that it represents multiple in a single drawing. This still doesn't explain the weird balls or why it's unlike anything he depicted before or since, but maybe one of the several phenomenon Glaser might have combined was the plasma thing another commenter mentioned. It'd certainly be rare enough that only one or two historical documents are known of depicting it. Meteors are also another strong contender for inspirational elements with aspects such as the wreckage. The main issue with aliens is why. Why fight over earthly skies? If it was an alien battle, why converge and diverge from the sun repeatedly? From the description it was centered on the sun, which leads me towards the possibility of optical involvement. Also, the supposed alien at the bottom could be just another woman with light hair, as can be seen in the blood rain woodcut by Glaser (upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Blutregen_bei_Dinkelsb%C3%BChl_1554.jpg). On several different versions online, a line can faintly be seen separating the face from what looks to me like some sort of cap which is another possibility. Both this figure and the woman standing nearby are pointing at the same spot in the sky. I can make out the "physical femininity" as well as a dress. The dress is just white which makes it the same color as the skin.

[@johncaze757]

So what plasma thing are they talking about?

[@barryclarke3010]

Sounds like a sun event akin to a micro nova ,which is something you can research , solar flare,cme ,are all possible explanations, interaction with the atmosphere.

[@jaezon4040]

This is cope 😂😂

[@FindingsOfAnArmouredMind]

@jaezon4040 yours is prejudice.

[@rstthomas]

too bad they had no tech to document this.

[@norbertk.5328]

If they would have cameras back then by the end of the 1600s they would make deep fakes like us today. So it wouldn't be a reliable source either.

[@temporalteleporter2874]

Interstellar civilization in the 1700s because something they didn't understand, fell to earth. If you showed someone from the 1700s, tech they use it as a hammer. they have no reference point.

[@darthgzuz]

How people assume that people didn't see Sundog before that day n never again after that day??? Pretty lame excuses making this event just an optical illusion.

[@neoclassic09]

A very similar thing happened again several years later in Switzerland

[@kristimcgowandarkoscellard3126]

The description at the beginning sounds a lot like plasma formations , as if there was some terrible electrical plasmatic discharge between the sun and other objects, even the tubes with “balls/globes” within it sounds like a plasma discharge formation. The blood red crosses sound like a plasma formation also. However, it is the very last bit that doesn’t. All the objects fading and slowly descending also sounds like plasma but falling to the earth and smoking does not! Also, I know of no plasma formation that looks like a black spear. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t one. Looking up the shapes, colors and behavior of plasma formations is worth taking a look and I think most will find it uncanny how similar they are to what is described here. Cheers

[@Conspiratorial]

That's a really interesting theory, I'm going to go look into that right away. The crosses/globe formations actually sounds spot on, although you're completely right, the smoking and falling and producing wreckage absolutely do not sound in line with that. But such is the mystery with this case! Thanks so much for that comment Kristi, v. interesting stuff!

[@johncaze757]

Makes me wonder could it possible be a result of some sort of very powerful geomagnetic storm that might have caused that odd plasma formation? 🤔

[@kristimcgowandarkoscellard3126]

@@johncaze757 Could be. Plasma is fascinating and most people are unaware of the intricate forms it takes.

[@alahalanit5006]

Excellent

[@lastbestplace8112]

check out Mauro Biglino or Pierre Sabak, or Paul Wallis, or Zecharia Sitchin

[@Conspiratorial]

I love Zecharia Sitchin, what a warm and intelligent man he was! I'll check out the other names, thanks for the tip!

[@lostinvictory8526]

You're very good at these, are you going to make anymore videos? My only suggestion is that you slow down just a bit.

[@boxxylegoplaymobil8906]

hes made more fiction-based videos on novum but none like this unfortunately

[@pauldeegan6652]

While this video is very good - and I enjoyed it, it would have been good to know what was going on in Nuremberg leading up to that specific date. That is, a contemporary historical background for that time. Was there a war on? Had a major defeat been experienced? Had there been a plague? Or a major fire? In short, had some jarring event had an effect on the collective psychological experience of the good people of Nuremberg? If peoples’ imaginations were running riot about what ‘bad thing’ might come along next, that might explain how a vivid sundog display could be imagined to be something greater and more significant.

[@odeiomelao]

I have no clue what it truly was, but my guesses are that it either truly went exactly as described and those were UFO's, or they were a meteor shower

[@lastbestplace8112]

also...think about how easily it was to have the masses believe anything you wanted them to...things don't change much

[@Conspiratorial]

Absolutely agreed, that's why I prefer the idea of hoax to something like a sun halo. Propaganda has been around for a loooong time!

[@mandiferrer]

@@Conspiratorial or is the "debunking" the REAL hoax just to mislead people into believing that the event did not happen? From time immemorial, there have already been secret societies behind governments that withhold information about the existence of ETs, when the truth is, ETs have been here hundreds of thousands of years ago, watching over the civilization that they seeded into this planet... us.

[@spaceandstuff]

So you're saying that Alex Jones is the modern day Glazer?

[@KahlessTheUnforgettable]

Mate, come back! 😢

[@VillanThaHero]

Where was this great battle? Wouldnt there be wreckage buried deep in the ground from all that fighting and explosions etc ....

[@chuckwhitson654]

God has many ways to call people to repentance

[@anthonyrose915]

Probably a meteor shower

[@user-xr9tt1to9l]

Research Dr Steven Greer.

[@Moodymongul]

I don't buy the sun dog or ergot poisoning theories. But the first line, of the original description of the event, makes me wonder: "At first there appeared in the middle of the sun two blood-red semi-circular arcs ..." Could it have been a massive solar flare, like the Carrington event ..but even stronger. I've noticed countries like to call these historic events other things. But, massive solar flares occur evey 150 (or so) years. The next one, will destroy all electrics on Earth. And our leaders are well aware of them and their effects. The public, oddly less aware :)

[@lucasoheyze4597]

Wouldn't that have been seen worldwide?

[@billbombshiggy9254]

Nope. You would have had world wide auroras like with the Carrington events and it would have lasted a bit. There would be documentation from all over about auroras and blood red skies

[@equalopportunityoffender1816]

Honestly I agree with everything until your interpretation of the figure at the end. I personally think you kinda stretched it there and it might just be another normal human, and if figures where to have come out of the objects, I would assume the document would have mentioned them as well. Like if he took the effort to draw a potential alien I assume he would have mentioned it in the text. I however, will never rule out the possibility that the air "battle" could have been aliens, however of course we can't be 100% sure. I believe advanced alien civilizations exist, although I have not seen enough information to convince me definitively that they have ever visited Earth, however I would not be surprised if it turned out they have.

[@Billywashere]

Lizard take over

[@nunomvf]

If you wanna know what this was, just read the bible. There was war in heaven, and the devil and his angels were cast down to earth. Now we reap the fruit.

[@avail1.]

lucifer satan and his angels are having a good laugh, because they have been impersonating the so-called "aliens" and "greys" and "summerians" and "Annunaki" etc. Jude 6 2 Peter 2:4