Rear Mount Oil In The Turbo Solved

In this video you get a little teaser and the solution to all the oil issues I have faced with this kit. After 2 years it is still going strong.

[@joelnrs]

Thanks for talking us through your experience and how you resolved it. Appreciate it!

[@brandonflicek2252]

You've been working on this beast for a long time but its worth it! I wanna turbo my cobalt soon for the booooooooost

[@TheLifeofaMan]

Brandon Flicek biggest part is my job is very demanding. I only get to work on it a little at a time. If I had a week off I could have done it all at one time.

[@turbocube4239]

Thanks for the info. I'm installing a remote mount on my ex airforce hicube van and the more info the better!

[@cannabis_culture518]

Dang I’m thinking I may have a similar problem! 💡gonna have to check that with a check valve. Interesting great post

[@LowBoostFilms]

Great info! I have the same problem on my low mounted E36 LS swap. I’m getting a check valve!

[@kylenjunior4263]

Instablaster...

[@andreasmikoleiczik6120]

Great info

[@badass98svt]

I know this is old, but just wanted to say thanks. Relocating the oil pump and installing the check valve fixed my burning oil issues on my low mount turbo. Still getting a small (quarter size) oil stain under the turbo over night though.

[@TheLifeofaMan]

I would take the turbo apart and clean it out really good. To be honest the check valve did almost nothing. The higher flow pump and delay timer did the trick.

[@lonniehamilton914]

Good job.

[@hassanmohd3595]

Good to hear that the oil issue is fixed. Did you know that phobia street stopped making the kit you have. I contacted them to get one and they told me that.

[@positivepressuregarage]

If you are still looking for a rear mount turbo system, try contacting STS turbo chargers. Send a message or give a call and they should give you a price.

[@TheLifeofaMan]

STS are stupid over priced you could build one like mine for 3k

[@qq-hk2sq]

Noise is a no go, I've heard one of those pumps in action and it makes wayyy too much noise. I would have ordered a second quiet pump, or even better as someone else also mentioned, added a small reservoir to hold the overflow to give the pump time to catch up. I would add a second pump for backup with a trigger in the event the primary pump failed to avoid being stuck on the side of the road when it finally does fail and adding a small cooler might not be a bad idea to keep the turbo center section temps down to extend the life of the pump. I'm planning my own rear mount and I want it to be as dependable and quiet as a front mount setup. I have used the Holley series red/blue/black pump for scavenging and it works very well once the pump screen is removed in order to allow free oil entry. It is very quiet, you just have to protect it from extreme heat.

[@Tony-ib2vm]

Rbracing-rsr makes a transfer pump with helical gears.

[@kevinmarcus465]

Speed Mafia Performance out of Colorado was a dealer for STS Turbo back in the day when they came out and I saw a TT C5 Z06 and that kit came with check valves... moral of the story is the check valve so be as close as possible to the oil intake side... I believe the spring for the check valve is 3.5lbs... you can purchase higher springs. This is know for about 12 years now...

[@TheLifeofaMan]

In the end the real oiling issues was the return pump did not flow enough. I put a higher flowing pump and removed the restrictors and no issues ever again. Check valves are still in and a timer to run the pumps after shut off. But the I still had oiling issues until I put the higher flowing pump in.

[@bikerboy636t]

Been strugeling with this issue for almost a year and then poof up come this old video

[@yolofullsend]

My rear mount has oil coming from the drain side.. I installed a check valve which helped a lot bit didn't stop it.. the lowest turbo spills. Little oil on startup :-(

[@usdm420]

Awesome. I have a single turbo kit on my 5.0 and it's blowing oil out the exhaust like crazy right now because the return line runs too far to the back of the pan causing pooling after a few minutes of driving. Time for a scavenge pump.

[@TheLifeofaMan]

Run a high flow pump and dump it into the valve cover. One of the other earlier videos cover were I dump my oil. There is already an open port on the driver side valve cover.

[@pedroao65]

take a type one vw oil breeder box seal it make a reservoir box between turbos drain and pump return!

[@FullBoostJ4]

I’m using a standalone oiling system on my set up. I’m thinking of converting it to a scavenge system. I use a mechanical pump driven by an electric motor. My project is a work in progress to see how cheaply it can be done.

[@TheLifeofaMan]

These oil pumps are like $60 the heat sync is another 100. Running for years no issue

[@FullBoostJ4]

@@TheLifeofaMan only problem is the noise, I spoke to the manufacturer of a similar pump to yours who said they should only be run for 30 mins max 😞. The RB racing pumps have helical gears so they're quiet but to get one sent over to the UK is gonna be crazy money. Something like $800 all in and that's too much.

[@Tony-ib2vm]

Rbracing-rsr might sell you their helical gears. Supposedly they only make the gears, and drop them in existing shelf pumps. IDK if they'll fit your pump.

[@TheLifeofaMan]

Thanks for the tip!

[@kurtbennett1164]

So, I'm switching my engine bay turbo kit to a rear mount to gain back my engine bay. It sounds like the Turbowerk spartan pump would work for me since mine is a single turbo, four cylinder? I will use the check valve you talk about of course and the other notes. Unlike your twin setup, do you think this is good for a single turbo setup? Thanks.

[@TheLifeofaMan]

Kurt Bennett I would still use the exact or the cheap eBay pump like mine. The Spartan kits loader when it fills. The gear pump gets quite when it fills.

[@positivepressuregarage]

If you ever want to upgrade your oil return pump or switch it to something different then you should check out the Exa pump. I have it on my remount turbo system and it is so quiet. I have had no problems for three years. Its worth a look at.

[@bnrz28]

Justin Lampe hey man what oil feed line size and return size hose are u running? I got a 2002 z28 with original sts turbo kit with upgraded on3 70 mm turbo. The kit has the original feed line and return line with upgraded shurflo pump. I am looking into upgrading it and would like to see some input.

[@bnrz28]

Justin Lampe sorry forgot to mention I have a restrictor in the feed line

[@positivepressuregarage]

That's awesome! How you liking that turbo? I actually have an on3 7875 turbo on my car. It is a little large but I put down 683rwhp on 16 psi. I do have a LQ4/4L80E setup. I may do a few videos on my setup. I believe my feed line is a 4 AN line. The return is a huge 10 AN line to the scavenger pump then it is a 3/8 rubber hose from pump to oil filler cap. STS turbos is back up and running again. I had to buy a new feed line from them a couple months ago. I did it that way so it would be the correct length and size.

[@bnrz28]

Justin Lampe it's a decent setup man honestly but I wanna get a little more out of it but do it safely. I had a bit of issues with oil getting passed the seals so I'm wanting to upgrade that and maybe upgrade the turbo as well. Yes I would love to see some videos of ur car

[@bnrz28]

Shoot me an email man [e-mail]

[@dsmith8061]

Here's a thought: Instead of having oil being supplied from the engine, why not have the turbos have their own oil pump/filter/cooler/tank dedicated to them with a timer? There would be more costs associated with it and room needed to accommodate but I would think you would have better control on how the turbos are lubricated - not to mention eliminating issues with engine supplied oil. Anybody have an thoughts about this?

[@TheLifeofaMan]

Very costly, time consuming, and not any more of a guarantee that you will have a better result. If that was the better option car manufactures would be doing it, but instead they are doing oil supplied form the motor and returned.

[@RagingBullNuts]

xxblamedxx but none are rear mounted.

[@TurboJohn74]

xxblamedxx oem is not doing custom rear mounts, thus why we are. Oem is cost focused on massive production, this is hobbyist

[@brianemery8945]

I was wondering the same. if properly plumbed and set up. a dedicated oil supply sounds like the way to go!

[@orthopraxis235]

@@TheLifeofaMan The is really bad reasoning, and it's usually false . "If XXX was the better option, car manufactures (sic) would be doing it...." Car manufacturesr must find a price where they can profit. They make 1000s of trade-off when designing a vehicle. The better option for who? for what result? Quite obviously, everyone wants something different, to say something wouldn't work or be better because "the car isn't manufactured that way" well just isn't factually correct and the reason people modify their cars.

[@jaygooch1190]

Put a voltage regulator on the pump circuit and slow the pump down at lower RPMs

[@TheLifeofaMan]

Better frame isolation was all I needed and now you can barely hear it run.

[@thessbeast409]

Any way i can get the link for the pump? I have the same issue on my 76mm precision turbo and its driving me nuts lol. I will apreciate it if you can tell me the brand of it thanks

[@TheLifeofaMan]

Cesar Garcia just search Google for oil scavange pump. They are like $60 and they are black and brass. Mine came with the kit so I don't have a link. Contact turbowex directly and they will sell just the heat sink for monting and longevity of the pump

[@adelyuri1895]

I am looking for the same fitting but I can't find it !! where did you get it from? I need 1/4 female thread size

[@timothybayliss6680]

www.mcmaster.com/hydraulic-check-valves they have 2 with 1/4" npt female ends.

[@DoC_]

What were the part #s for the Check Valve fittings? I did not see them in the description?

[@TheLifeofaMan]

I did not put the PNs in there because it will be different for everyones application. Just make sure it is a low cracking pressure and viton seals.

[@timothybayliss6680]

www.mcmaster.com/hydraulic-check-valves start there

[@TheGuruStud]

So what about those gears that aren't C clipped in there? Mounted correctly like that they just rub against the cover plate.

[@TheLifeofaMan]

TheGuruStud they are under zero force and constant lubrication. I've taken the cover off a couple times and no signs of where on the gear or cover.

[@garrettwightman9427]

Sounds like you could use an accusump

[@B7_S4_Turbo]

Part numbers aren't in description...

[@timothybayliss6680]

www.mcmaster.com/hydraulic-check-valves hope it helps

[@hayndoog808]

Is only one scavenge pump good enough for a twin turbo setup? what is the specs on that pump? what size are the turbos?

[@TheLifeofaMan]

TheFonz808 one pump is enough with restrictors in the feed. The pump is the cheap eBay pump. It flows tons but I don't have the specs

[@TheLifeofaMan]

TheFonz808 turbos are 60 63

[@MikeMiller-xu5wv]

Whom did you get your kit from and details on oil pump .. im a fella on a budget but willing to save up ..thx in advance

[@TheLifeofaMan]

They are not in business anymore. I would piece together a kit of my own. The turbos come from cxracing. All the other stuff is off the shelf and then massaged to fit to the car.

[@arronjohnston742]

simple fix is to make two small sumps for the turbos with breather vents that way the turbos drain as they were designed to do an the pump isn't constantly sucking on the turbos also once the engine is shut down the excess oil pressure has somewhere to drain instead of cooking inside the turbos bearings look up kzbin.info/door/QpoC_ilAGaNyLrLnXaH4Rg he has videos explaining this problem (he also isn't the only one whose worked out turbos need a freely draining sump to drain into)

[@kyrujames]

What check valves did you use and link for the pump??

[@TheLifeofaMan]

No check values from the turbo to the pump. Just on the supply. I put a timer on it to keep the pump running for 15 sec after turn of to drain everything on the bottom side.

[@YouLoveRyanSeacrest]

Where did you pick up the heat sink for that oil pump?

[@TheLifeofaMan]

It came with the Spartan pump and I kept it and slipped the cheap oil pump into it. I bet turbowerx would sell just the heat sync

[@jeepwk6.5L]

What else do you need for the oil system? Just lines, check valve and the scavage pump? Or do you need other stuff? I’m wanting to locate my front mount turbo to the rear

[@jeepwk6.5L]

Also, where is your Widebands located?

[@TheLifeofaMan]

Turns out the check valves were a waste. I put high flow pump and a timer on it and all the problems went away. The time lets the oil return pump run for about 15sec after shut down to empty the system out so it can not drain into the turbo.

[@TheLifeofaMan]

Wide band is in the cat right below the manifold. I have a video on here showing it under the gauge install.

[@jeepwk6.5L]

@@TheLifeofaMan thanks for the replies. So far mine has been working great and already had it dyno’d!

[@geneiusbeatza.k.a.gbeatz2444]

What's the part number bro?

[@jameisonroyce7550]

where is the check valve part number ? i wanna try , having similar issues on my aps turbo kit in my c5 vette

[@TheLifeofaMan]

I have tried and I can not for the life of me find it. It got it off mcmaster carr or misumi. It was a while ago

[@markhipp9454]

Can you post a website for the check valve I been searching but can not find them.

[@TheLifeofaMan]

Tons of people have asked and I can not find the order from when I got mine so it is lost in time lol I remember ordering it from a sight like mcmaster carr. I just found one in the fitting size I needed and the cracking pressure I wanted. Also make sure it has viton seals. neoprene seals work for a short while then fail because of the heat.

[@THE_ORIGINAL_I-SEARCHdotFUN]

Which kit are you using? Folio? Thanks. How’s it doing now.

[@TheLifeofaMan]

Sort of a custom kit based around an sts rear mount kit. Been on for 50k and 6 years still rips!

[@dbrownent]

Where did you get these check Valves

[@TheLifeofaMan]

mcmastercarr but I have never been able to find the part number. They are 1psi crack pressure with viton seals.

[@EvanAxer]

Where are the part numbers for the check valves?

[@TheLifeofaMan]

I could never find them again. You can find them on mcmastercarr or the like. Just make you sure you get low cracking pressure and viton seals.

[@SRG_T3MP4]

What kind of check valves is that

[@TheLifeofaMan]

tyler stoner one way 1 psi with viton seals

[@Tesla_USA]

@@TheLifeofaMan part number???

[@jsaleh415]

You said fuel pump then oil pump

[@TheLifeofaMan]

Sorry lol

[@user-cl2ls7kz7o]

100 bucks? I’d given them you for free lol

[@brandenparnell5280]

I feel like this dude has a shop do all his work and annoys them with millions of questions so he can post a video on here and talk like he knows exactly what he's doing. He tries too hard to make it known that he "knows what he's talking about"

[@TheLifeofaMan]

Just posting what I do...If it is wrong I do apologize for any mistake in the content. Thanks for watching though!