Reason 13: Your Sound, Faster.

[@usedusermoser]

Hey, Reason Studios, congrats on the launch 🚀. How about giving a better upgrade price for people upgrading the perpetual license for every release? The current upgrade price feels like FU to loyal users!

[@somuchfortalent]

How about giving your employer a break and taking a pay cut?

[@LunarBuzz]

They want you to do subscription bud so perpetual upgrade is going to be harsh.

[@TLOEric]

Amen.

[@fiddlestickzmuzik]

To all the moaners below just subscribe for $20 a month and you get the new version..You just don't miss the money going out monthly, its less than a dollar a day. The new synth is epic and the new zoom feature meaning we can upscale the entire DAW is brilliant.

[@depblkman]

Do anyone remember the reason 6 launch and they said, "name your price"? I would love to see that again. If not for Reason, then for refills and racks.

[@marcom.]

Hey Reason folks. Upgrade price from 12 to 13 with 199 € is too expensive. I won't pay 40% of the full price just to get the new features. Please think about making a graduated price model depending on the version we're coming from!

[@TheCartoonHead]

They are trying to push people towards the subscription version.

[@OmkaraHellcore]

@@TheCartoonHeador you can just wait till Black Friday and buy it for 100 or something

[@dezinerAhmad]

True

[@iKrizNL]

I feel like I just got a discount of 199, skipped to version 13 from 10 feels like I never had to pay for 12

[@mølekule-l3d]

oh wow that´s actually a good idea, never thought of that before

[@Skulljerker]

As a hobby music creator, this 199€ is way to steep, that price should min. include a midi output on the VST plugin. and a player with midi in from the VST out to place above all the reason instruments.

[@venericanone]

200 upgrade is insane for like 3 new things and a weird new browser we have to get used to

[@reddenstudio]

I agree! Seems to be a bit too price-y to buy on the first day.

[@LunarBuzz]

They did it with 12 then promised they would add the missing stuff later. It took ages. They want you to go perpetual.

[@venericanone]

@@LunarBuzz no one likes an unfinished update. Have they not learned from EA? Finish the updates then release the product.

[@LunarBuzz]

@@venericanone 12 was shocking for the asking price of £199 upgrade.

[@yetee4842]

Why did they remove the ability to create your own lists of VST and RE devices, all my folders with my favorite compressors and delays are empty. Now you have to climb and look for the device by typing its name into the search or scrolling through the list, hello to the owners of the Waves package, you will be happy

[@yetee4842]

i'm so angry, guys, how work without favorite devices list...New browser only for patches, wav files...but not for RE and VST...

[@Pieter_Auper]

What? For real? I didn't even know this. If they want me to upgrade they should pay me 199.

[@Dumiso]

$252 to upgrade for UK users vs $199 for US market, the pricing is unREASONable.

[@somuchfortalent]

Better price for a better country.

[@Erdnase23]

Even $199 is taking the p!ss.

[@kypresso4328]

Thats the tax added in the UK, buy from the states and dont pay the tax.

[@Dumiso]

Yeah, I buy all my upgrades from Sweetwater. ​@@kypresso4328

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@@kypresso4328 No its because Reason Studios dont adjust prices for currency's so UK pays £200 and US pays $200 so UK pays about £40 more.

[@Pieter_Auper]

199 for a couple of upgrades no-one ever asked for is ridiculous.

[@somuchfortalent]

😭

[@stussydroptop]

frfr they need think about us 😂😂

[@kypresso4328]

£199 to upgrade the reason rack plugin, which i use in reaper, is a stupid joke. There doesn't seem to be any usefull updates there for me. I already have all the delays and synths i need.

[@johnsexton8082]

Sorry to say it's another step backward for screen reader users, in V12, the only way to access the browser is with OCR and now in V13, you need to use object nav to get out of the text box before you can use OCR to read any text. Really hope RS take the time to add screen reader support, the technology is already here, others have done it and extending into a new market share. Would of been nice to see some work done on Remote, perhaps in a later update?

[@_boof]

I’m passing on this. I have REs that already accomplish what you’re providing here. Can you drag and drop from browser to VST? Or no?

[@palemale3832]

No

[@frankomano5615]

I think, the upgrade price is to high, i am staying with reason 11

[@mølekule-l3d]

gain (tool) and sidechain device, welcome to 2004 reason studios!

[@johnmarriott3982]

Is the upgrade really £199?

[@RicoTropico]

yep...

[@spurito]

Cheeky... Not for me then

[@usedusermoser]

Sadly not 😢they are pushing for Subscription model. Screw the loyal perpetual licence owners 🎊 🎉

[@TomBombadil-h3f]

So in the USA it costs £157 for Reason 13. £169.08 in Europe and £199 in the UK, WHY ARE WE MUGGED OFF IN THE UK

[@tymantis]

🤣

[@rcm616-j5t]

I get this upgrade for free (as I only purchased Reason 12 a couple of months ago) but honestly I don't even know if I'll bother. Don't really like the idea of yet another horizontal split in the UI. There's is no way I would pay for this upgrade

[@BenedictRoffMarsh]

You can choose where the Arrangement/Piano Roll split sits, incl 100% like it is/was in R12 :-)

[@rcm616-j5t]

@@BenedictRoffMarsh It's more about the fact that I don't want another split, I'd rather have to switch between the sequencer and editor than have another split in the ui taking up more space

[@evrytingelsewastaken]

Samples in the browser still keeps playing after dragging them out to sequencer😒... No option to tag by genre... nor by loops and one shot 😒. Rex player loads closed up and needs to be manually open every time😒. Mixer linking still stuck at just volume fader and pan 😒. I love how you guys do things as I stated before but it's being done in a slow dragging kind of way. FOCUS ON THE DAW!!! IMPROVE THE DAW!!! THE SDK NEEDS TO BE UPDATED!!! WHATS GOING ON WITH MULTICHANNEL VSTs? We're still not able to have one instance controlled by different midi channels. WHAT IS GOING ON??? WHY DO WE HAVE TO CLICK ON MIDI NOTES TO HAVE THE HANDLE BARS SHOW UP JUST TO ADJUST THE LENGTH AND LOOSE OUR CURRENT SELECTION? SAME WITH AUDIO AND MIDI CLIPS? HAVE IT SHOW UP WHEN HOVERING THE CURSOR PLEASE!!!

[@xmeoff]

Upgraded from 12 to 13 today. I'v been a user since Reason Version 2 and still love it. The new look is awesome.

[@iwatoHyena]

Started in 3, took a hiatus, coming back today for 13!!!

[@PeterAries]

As I've said in a previous comment, Reason 13 looks like a really solid upgrade. However, I have to agree with many comments about the pricing for the upgrade. 199$ just seems too much for an upgrade for us long time Reason users, for what is on offer. I thought at least there would be some of the existing players or synths included in the upgrade, but it looks as the same devices as in R12, except for the newly added ones. I would've thought the price a bit more fair if the existing players would be added for example (like the bass generator and chord sequencer), but they're not included. Another option would've been to have some kind of introduction upgrade price for long time users for a limited period. Looks like I'll need to wait for this upgrade. I really looked forward to this. Anyhow, I hope the launch goes well for you guys.

[@TheValueOfN]

Objekt should have been included at the very least. That would attract so many because it's widely regarded as the best physical modelling synth that many other DAW users are lusting after and are considering paying for Reason for that singular benefit. It would also assuage those who are balking at the upgrade price from Reason 11 Suite/12 to 13. Also.... why isn't Reason Studios creating VSTs of Objekt and its siblings? After all, Europa exists as a VST.

[@somuchfortalent]

@@TheValueOfN lol. you just don't want to pay for objekt. 🤣

[@TheValueOfN]

@@somuchfortalent I own Objekt.

[@somuchfortalent]

@@TheValueOfN I'm pressing X to doubt.

[@TheValueOfN]

@@somuchfortalent I've created playlists on YT for VSTs and music software that I own so that I can access vids that I've found helpful when learning how to use them. There's one for Objekt too.

[@iwatoHyena]

Downloads Reason 13 after a lengthy hiatus, only to discover that Objekt, Algoritm, and several other extraordinary instruments and players are paid add-ons. This revelation delivered a metaphorical blow to both my enthusiasm and my wallet. Nevertheless, my desire for these tools remains undiminished. I suppose I failed to peruse the fine print with sufficient diligence.

[@Artek604]

That is your own fault. You should've taken the R+ sub for 20% off instead.

[@meru_lpz]

I feel you - bring back Reason Suite!!!!

[@yaBoyRome]

You're not missing anything with those instruments. Better off getting vsts. I don't even use reason instruments. I only use one shots.

[@iwatoHyena]

@@Artek604 There are myriad decisions, both made and unmade, over my four decades on this plane. To dwell on regret for each would merely squander the energy that could be harnessed to further the advancement of humanity.

[@iwatoHyena]

@@meru_lpz I concur. In hindsight, more thorough research was warranted, but it is conspicuous that the marketing materials did not prominently disclose that these remarkable new instruments are separate add-ons. I was almost certain, based on the promotional content for Reason 13, that they were included. Alas, such is life. Despite this, I still derive enjoyment from the software. However, re-enlisting for future iterations seems highly improbable.

[@JohnJuliusKnight]

i was actually expecting at least $129.00 but 2 bills you guys really taking it 😡

[@ezekiele4908]

Who cares

[@fiddlestickzmuzik]

just subscribe its $20 a month..its a free upgrade when you subscribe.

[@whoknows6794]

​@@fiddlestickzmuzikAnd he will pay way more in the long run. Great advice lol

[@doctorauxiliary]

yeah... another $129...? I'd jump on it. but $200...? nope. not gonna do it.

[@audiolab303]

yeah, that's a no from me too.

[@AD-Dom]

Gonna allow us to use reason reward points to pay for the upgrade?

[@CookingNoise]

Unless there is an added video editor, I’ll stick to reason 10 and be happy. Thanks!

[@somuchfortalent]

Reason 10 doesn't have a video editor either.

[@CookingNoise]

Exactly

[@OmkaraHellcore]

Don’t be silly. There isn’t a single noteworthy DAW with integrated video editing.

[@CookingNoise]

@@OmkaraHellcore silly is the point! lol you aren’t wrong

[@tymantis]

I stopped at Reason 10 and don't plan to upgrade until there is significant improvement. I probably still wouldn't pay for an upgrade even if Reason Studios really did improve their sequencer because I seriously hate that company

[@krypticmusicofficial]

$199 for this Upgrade... 👉It's a shame!

[@thrillerboyrecords]

Loving Reason 13 new workflow, thank you for perfecting!

[@Dougie-]

It's a very nice update, albeit a bit slim. More of these small time saver fixes like the new timeline zooming. That's the stuff we need: resizing clips & notes without having to select them first, scale snapping, note preview using arrow keys, modifier to stretch notes/clips with the arrow keys, slightly tinting of mixer channels for faster overview, custom color palette. These are things that adds up during a project.

[@snowflake-inc.7563]

Gotta chime in with the rest of the upgrade crew. £199 🥵

[@depblkman]

I downloaded Reason 13 today. opened a reason song file i was messing with. I watched the Ripley space delay video so i was excited to see how Ripley would improve my song. OMG!!! Dropped it in my send effect and turned it on. i was not prepared for the Bliss I felt. This Delay is WONDERFUL!!! Can't wait to get home from work so that i can play.

[@hannebudio267]

200€ maybe it's ok if you upgrading from Reason 10. For Reason 12 users the price is absurd !

[@wizmos74]

Or even lower. From Reason 1 to 12 same crazy price. But... if this upgrade is major and worth it why not. I don't seen nothing really usefull to me. Only changed number version. This should be update not upgrade

[@DavidCicero]

Wow, 200 quid for an upgrade. Still won't push me to a subscription. What are you playing at 😡

[@everytongueconfess]

I LOVE IT. I'm just renting it monthly. The Polytone synth is unreal!!!!!!!!

[@alexeybatura5151]

Do they really think I'm going to switch to a subscription model, because of an upgrade price? 😂 No!😂 I'm not gonna!I was really waiting for the new Reason upgrade, but right now I've just upgraded my Cubase instead of Reason. I will continue to use Reason but only as a plugin in Cubase. I wish the product manager of Reason DAW one day open Cubase or Studio One or Reaper and realize how silly Reason is as a DAW 😂

[@somuchfortalent]

So you were waiting for the upgrade for a product that you think is inferior to the other DAWs listed but it was the price that made you mad?

[@alexeybatura5151]

@@somuchfortalent The price made me laugh 😂. You misunderstood the whole point of my post.

[@juicerox]

Congrats guys! This is the most excited Ive been about a new Reason version in years. Thank you for your hard work on the DAW itself RS!

[@rCyberito]

After the update to Reason 13, all my manually curated and hand-picked lists of my favorite instruments such as “Guitars”,” Basses”, ‘Drums’, ‘Synths’ (Reason and VST3), effects like ‘Echoes’, ‘Reverbs’ (Reason and VST3) etc. etc. have disappeared. They are visible in the new browser, but they are empty. And - even worse - these lists obviously cannot be reconfigured. I got the idea of searching for them in the new browser using tags, but I don't want to search, I already know what I'm looking for - I just want to click on it in my favorites list and use it. That's not “Faster”, that slows down the workflow massively! The old sidebar (Reason 12) was much easier to use and I would definitely want it back. The new browser can be a nice additional gimmick, but it's not even half as useful as you guys claim.

[@DJAdalaide]

You should have checked before upgrading!

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

I was using Reason 4 yesterday, I like its simplicity plus I like to remind My self how far Reason has come.

[@TheValueOfN]

Has it progressed as much as other DAWs have though?

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@@TheValueOfN In some ways yes in other way no, this new midi edit is similar to other DAWs like Ableton, Logic but not as advance as FL Studio. Reason is unique because of its Rack style system and is much more difficult to code for then FL Studio because of that.

[@palemale3832]

@@HOLLASOUNDSsuper weird lie. Edison has existed in fl studio for like 20 years.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@@palemale3832 Im talking about live recording audio into the sequencer, Im not talking about using a sampler.

[@palemale3832]

@@HOLLASOUNDS lmao, why lie? Ableton didn’t have volume controls until yesterday. That makes this update better

[@TheCartoonHead]

I have 15+ years with Reason and my muscle memory is taking a beating with R13 (shortcuts & UI). Not sure how I feel about 13 yet 🫤 though I think I hate the browser.

[@freshkidblaze]

Give it a few days, I was zooming again after the 3rd day during beta.

[@TheCartoonHead]

@@freshkidblaze hopefully growing pains.

[@TomBombadil-h3f]

So in the USA it costs £157 for Reason 13. £169.08 in Europe and £199 in the UK, WHY ARE WE MUGGED OFF IN THE UK💰❓

[@venericanone]

That's the exchange rate. Some companies vary it based on location. Most of them don't. It's 200 for each location.

[@Citracid]

No it's 199€ in E.U

[@snowflake-inc.7563]

B-r-exit

[@zynet_eseled]

249$ CAD plus tax. I feel ya. As someone who didn't click with reason, I feel ya on the price pain...

[@venericanone]

@@Citracid which is £169.98. that's just the exchange rate right now. But wherever you are they are charging 200 of that locations currency.

[@martyosullivan7233]

In Aussie dollars this is a huge price jump.

[@MarcusCastor]

Will the Mix & Master Rig Bundle and the Backline Rig Bundle return?

[@TheRealWinsletFan]

Too expensive an upgrade, I mean you've always been expensive compared to the competition, but £200 is just taking the proverbial. I can definitely get better value spending the money elsewhere, so I will.

[@TomBombadil-h3f]

Whats missing is a true dark mode I'm sick of being blinded by the mixer and toolbar and having my eye balls scorched when I have a late night production session, this could easily be rectified, the display bar at the top takes up around 10% of the screen this should be collapseable, we should also have the option to move the tool bar to the right. I would also pay a premium for Genre specific editions of Reason or artist editions as some one who produces DnB, Jungle and Deep Dubstep I find 95% of the stock synth patches are too bright and jolly or dated and are taking up valuable space

[@TheValueOfN]

The mixer's brightness is definitely blindingly bright during late night sessions. It's horrible!

[@zynet_eseled]

THAT, is a good idea. Getting a copy of a daw that is specifically designed to make producing a certain type of music, at a lower price than the full one, which removes the unnecessary stuff, is a good idea.

[@TheValueOfN]

@@zynet_eseled I agree. Please remove anything and everything that's related to Trap.

[@RealmsOfThePossible]

Not everyone lives in loft apartments, wears ridiculous fuzzy coats and goes out with the glamorous trendy people 😆 Who are these promos made for?

[@somuchfortalent]

If they did an ad of a guy sitting in a dark room in his underwear and a pair of headphones at 3am carefully editing velocities, it wouldn't be as appealing.

[@RealmsOfThePossible]

@@somuchfortalent Hey, they can film me anytime, I have a lamp you know 😆

[@tymantis]

I think that's their target demographic 🤣

[@RealmsOfThePossible]

@@tymantis But these types of people in real life don't having anything to do with music production just the partying.

[@viceshark]

Please tell me how to preview a sound before choosing it. I've used Reason since Reason 4 and have always been able to just single click a patch, hit a key, and then double click to choose it. I can't now. I also really liked having everything as a side bar.

[@pulsatemusicproduction]

Reason you guys rock. Thanks for your dedication and constant advancement of the platform. Reason 13 and beyond forever.

[@MarcusCastor]

In the past there have been Rig bundles - do they still exist, or are they gone?

[@Artek604]

Yes, they're still in the shop

[@MarcusCastor]

@@Artek604 thanks for the response! Do they go by the same name? I looked them up and did not find anything… got to look again. 😉

[@MarcusCastor]

@@Artek604 nope, there is just the Synthetic Rig 4 bundle, all other Rig Bundles seem to be gone. This is very sad, no Effects Bundle, Mix & Mastering Bundle or Guitar (?) Bundle. Edit: There have been three, but only the Synthetic Bundle is left. Backline Rig and Mix & Mastering Rig are no longer available.

[@chocomalk]

"Your Sound, Faster" No, actually it's "Reasons sounds faster" ...the ones from 3rd parties are now buried with no fav list or thumbnails... Like wtf you guys, one of the main browser enhancements you guys came up with now gone with a browser enhancement update....You just can't make this stuff up.

[@MarcSwing]

💯👏

[@somuchfortalent]

You can tag the third party sounds yourself.

[@chocomalk]

@@somuchfortalent Sounds or devices? Are there thumbnails?

[@yetee4842]

same, bro, i disappointment... i have alot of vsts, RE...and those lists help me work faster..

[@venericanone]

@@somuchfortalent so pay 200 dollars to do work they should have done

[@BARTISHERE]

Dear Reason Studios, I dont ask for much but PLEASE give use NI users host integration with MK2/MK3 keyboards!

[@Inphonik]

The most inspiring DAW 🎧

[@Artek604]

that's Reason 12 :)

[@MikeFavila]

Love it

[@somuchfortalent]

Finally picked it up. 100% worth it. Runs great on my potato. Less clutter. Sequencer is buttery smooth. Usually don't like floating windows, but it fits with the new browser. Haven't had a chance to dig into the new devices yet though. When is R14 due?

[@alexeybatura5151]

Have you already tried the slip editing? Does it still suck? Or is it just unavailable? What about ARA integration, have you enjoyed? Are you happy about preloaded drum maps and track freezing and arranger and chord track? 😂😂😂 What kind of music are you going to make with Reason? I'm just curious who those are dudes? Some kind of rap producers maybe? Are you around 60-70 years old, and just don't need all those modern features?

[@somuchfortalent]

@@alexeybatura5151 What kind of music do you make?

[@JonnyJericko]

Please make a volume control (pre-fader ) on the audio track itself on the sequencer panel , so that you don 't have to go into the combinator ....And please make it possible to turn off the project in the background so that you don't have to constantly download the project and wait for it to load .....

[@warning_danger]

I won't upgrade a VST for $200. Nothing significant is being added for users no longer using the DAW, the new devices for the VST can all be replaced with stock devices from other DAWs. The modulation and routing offered by using the cables is obsolete. Reason is trying to milk customers with this upgrade or by joining a subscription model. For the price, I would recommend getting any other DAW that cares for their users, even if it is as a glorified VST plugin. I think if you offered reason devices only as VST more people would use Object or Parsec. I.E. The 20% discount currently for old users is a slap in the face. Reason needs to get things together if they want to remain somewhat relevant. This video currently has only 8k views and 215 likes vs 150 dislikes from 202k subscribers is looking bad.

[@eluherlu]

I always loved Reason ads, even though I don't use it. My favorite was the Propellerhead Record ads

[@LordCritish]

I always hate Reason ads, even though I do use it. Always so much cliche and cringe in them. Reason is great but the ads ... brrrrrr!

[@eluherlu]

@LordCritish Well I guess people have different taste lol

[@ragimvideo]

and the Reason will become more stable and productive

[@EarmWermChannel]

Still no essential MIDI re-routing capabilities in 13. So I can't play any of my VST arps or Scaler. Which is why I picked up Ableton in the first place. Now we get this clunkier than ever interface with some afterthought new devices. Time to cancel the old $30 a months subscription and move full time to Ableton.

[@doodoostickstain]

just stop upgrading every version and wait until it’s bigger. i mean, not like every new release makes the older ones sound awful or harder to use 😆 i jumped from 9.5. do you buy a new video card everytime it bumps up or wait until there’s significant improvement?

[@epicpolyphony]

Been with reason since 4, but Ableton or Logic is starting to look more viable for a main DAW every day… it’s a real shame.

[@localgems]

Looks sharp. Sounds fresh. I propose a Reason Rewards program for long time users who have paid for upgrades for many years, $1000's later maybe a coupon code? That would be cool, thank you Propellerheads!

[@11dremoss]

bring that upgrade price to $65 in this economy 😂

[@ptptpt5079]

I love Reason but I'll probably skip this upgrade because I can't see any real improvements in compare to version 12.7.

[@StereoDan]

I'm very much looking forward to this release most certainly...cant wait to experiment and have been hanging on and checking out your video/s daily! Please keep em coming!

[@wakegary]

It's so amazing. Browser is really nice and excited to test scream and ripley together to see if I can hear it in space.

[@playscroller]

I just don't understand the subscription model. Let's assume that you are rich and you don't have to worry about bills at the end of the month. The hassle of managing your subscription alone is already something you don't want to deal with as a musician. Imagine picking up your guitar and realizing you have to renew your subscription to play it lol.

[@NSCTripleAgent]

Most subs that are small want you to set up recurring payments, forget, then pay forever whether or not you use them.

[@tokyotrap2579]

I have no complaints! Great upgrade, fair an square! Congrats Reason Studios on a job well done and a major step forward!

[@Artek604]

Looking forward to R13.1 or later and a sale. Perhaps by then it will be worth the upgrade :) Oh, and BTW - there's no way people use Reason with 3 device columns on a laptop. You won't see s**t.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

I use one and only use other lanes when sorting out or wiring stuff.

[@tangente00]

huh I usually use one column for each instrument, haha...there is horizontal scrolling you know

[@ezekiele4908]

I just upgraded to 13!! Dope!

[@pmishraofficial]

Reason, always with the best sounds! 🤩

[@Mode-7]

Upgrade price $175 on Thomann USA.

[@the-matrix-has-you]

after 6 versions there is still no chord generator tool in midi sequencer... No note labels on piano keys like in FL or Cubase... Music is made with notes... chords, melodies I can't make music faster without simple yet effective midi sequencer tools... Reason has fall behind in comparison to other DAW's like FL Studio or Cubase. Don't tell me Chord Squencer or Scales & Chords are developed for that... Not the same flexibility and fast workflow compared to midi sequencer! We need Chord Generator tool like in Cubase! I will not upgrade just because you have developed 2 synths and some bunch of filters etc. Midi Sequencer needs a huge update and Reason can't even make it!

[@somuchfortalent]

You've gone through 6 versions without learning the notes on a piano or how to build chords? Good lord.

[@movement6514]

We use player devices for that, they are more powerful anyways

[@the-matrix-has-you]

@@movement6514 I really don't care about players I need fast chord generator tool like in Cubase... if you know what I mean...

[@ucheattoh]

​@@somuchfortalentwith all due respect that's actually none of your business. Everyone has the right to demand features that improve their workflow. If you are a pro, kudos but please leave the sarcasm out of this...

[@somuchfortalent]

@@ucheattoh I'll get you started. C D E F G A B . Don't worry about the black keys for now. If you play any two of those notes together you have a chord. You can use more than two to make it really spicy. Make sounds that you like. Ezpz.

[@suryadnb]

Yeah, this is all nice an well, but some of us don't work with presets all that much. So again: most of this update doesn't do much for me.

[@damelos4039]

I'm gettin' it but not at this price. That's why there's BLACK FRIDAY. I can wait..... hehe👹

[@palemale3832]

Wow, you have to pay to try it out?

[@theprezenz]

This is not an update, it's an insult. Shame on you, RS!

[@doctorauxiliary]

long time reason user... very much UNDERwhelmed. the sequencer update is long OVERDUE. &, as some reviewers have pointed out, it's still a bit too UNDERCOOKED. taking that into account, the upgrade price is just TOO HIGH. I have been an avid user of reason since version 2.0. I love it!! so much so that the clip-based workflow of bitwig & ableton are totally foreign to me, still to this day. but learning one of those--preferably bitwig--is also very curious & interesting to me. I think the underwhelming & downright questionable value of this $200 upgrade may just be the push I need...

[@somuchfortalent]

lol

[@theprezenz]

Exactly

[@f1rstp3rsonngaming96]

I will Upgrade later on

[@EkssperimentalSoundsStudio]

🔥🔥🔥

[@movement6514]

The best reason UI designer is here I see ❤

[@AD-Dom]

Really wish there was an emphasis towards musicians actually playing instruments- like past iterations of Reason. 2024 we sit on our asses to make beats.

[@OmkaraHellcore]

Will isn’t that just a you thing? My studio is deliberately built around having to stand. No chairs present 😅

[@richshafiee]

SOO FAST AND PERFECT

[@2ndDayRiffs]

Is this still a subscription based software? If so, hard pass.

[@monkeyplusplus]

It's both. You can either pay a subscription or buy it outright.

[@somuchfortalent]

Never was.

[@TheLaser373]

@@monkeyplusplus ...and then pay for updates! Propellerhead is died for me!

[@barrakingbeatz7794]

I’ll be waiting until it’s worth the upgrade and this isn’t it

[@movement6514]

If you are not familiar with reason updates. The *.5 update is always really big (like VST, RE supporr in the past) So that's where your 200eur is going to. Bit too pricey imo, 150eur would make more sense to me, but anything Reason is always expensive. You can buy Logic Pro for this money or a midway FL Studio version.

[@somuchfortalent]

Correction: you can buy Logic Pro for this price if you also buy a mac.

[@TomBombadil-h3f]

236.43 Euro in the UK

[@palemale3832]

@@somuchfortalent reason also requires a computer to use

[@noisefekt]

The new UI fucking sucks.

[@KMantle]

People shouldnt be complaining about upgrade pricing. If you want REASON to continue, you gotta put the money in. Especially since a whole lot of business are filing for bankruptcy or closing doors. I got Cubase for free and i still use Reason. I started with Steinberg products. Just put $50 away every time you get paid, and after 4 paychecks Reason 13 will be yours!

[@somuchfortalent]

implying these people work.

[@KMantle]

@@somuchfortalent maybe they work a job that disrespects and undermine their labour and they use REASON to cope.

[@danybbeatz]

🔥🔥

[@RTH1122]

Money grabbing c&#ts! Way too pricey for what you get in an upgrade!

[@somuchfortalent]

Have you tried getting a job?

[@RTH1122]

@@somuchfortalent Have tried thinking of something smarter to say?

[@somuchfortalent]

@@RTH1122 What's smarter than making money? I can buy whatever toys I want. Why can't you?

[@RTH1122]

@@somuchfortalent Why do you assume that I can't?

[@fiddlestickzmuzik]

People need to just subscribe for $20 a month and you get the new version..I bet most here spend ten times that on gum or vapes or booze or lollies at the garage..You just don't miss the money going out monthly, its less than a dollar a day. The new synth is epic and the new zoom feature meaning we can upscale the entire DAW is brilliant.

[@SLock3s]

What should I pay $200 for? That is, I bought Reason 11 for $ 500, then you charged me $ 200 for version 12 and now you have rolled out some incomprehensible update that does not solve the main problems of Reason, do you want another $ 200? Maybe stop milking your DAW users like cows. Maybe the owners of version 12 should pay $ 20 for an update, but should you look for new users? There is no DAW as greedy as REASON STUDIOS! It's time to say goodbye.👋🏻

[@ragimvideo]

it's time to remove from the Reason NN XT, SUBTRACTOR, NN 19, REDRUM, MALSTORM and all old effects, my head is spinning from a huge number of tools, it's better to have fewer tools but high-quality ones

[@LuciSheppyLive]

This program still looks ancient. Very un-modern

[@TranceferLane]

At all the "199 (currency) is way to expensive" - screamers.... : How many hours will you spend in this DAW? Calculate your amount of time spent against the Upgrade price and then stfu..., or if you are using Reason only some hours a year..., what are you doing here anyway?! Thanks for the new features, I will use them, I will appreciate them.

[@fiddlestickzmuzik]

People need to just subscribe for $20 a month and you get the new version..I bet most here spend ten times that on gum or vapes or booze or lollies at the garage..You just don't miss the money going out monthly, its less than a dollar a day. The new synth is epic and the new zoom feature meaning we can upscale the entire DAW is brilliant.