REBEL 12Ah Lithium Battery Review and Teardown!

[@iceholepower8012]

In this video I test and review the Rebel 12Ah Lithium Battery Amazon listing for this battery: amzn.to/3rkFo9h Follow me on Facebook! facebook.com/iceholepower Amazon Affiliate links for items seen in this and other videos: Solder Station Vacuum: amzn.to/3clVbwI Battery Load Tester: amzn.to/3qIKUCW Bench Power Supply: amzn.to/3DpMKwa Electronics Pry Took Kit: amzn.to/3Fftpyi Batteries that I recommend based on my reviews: Rebel 12Ah Amazon Link: amzn.to/3rkFo9h Nocqua 10Ah Lithium Ion Amazon Link: amzn.to/3Le7yKx Nocqua 20Ah Lithium Ion Amazon Link: amzn.to/3IELszh Nocqua Lithium Ion Review Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHetlKmfgLufarc Dakota Lithium 10ah Amazon Link: amzn.to/3DsIImA Dakota Lithium 10Ah Teardown Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWW2ZY1tgJpqjbc MarCum 10Ah BRUTE Amazon Link: amzn.to/3CxxxYN MarCum 10Ah BRUTE Teardown Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWbIZXqYjrR_fq8 Vexilar 9Ah Amazon Link: amzn.to/3GTc9PK Vexilar 9Ah Teardown Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGq4ZoSga7Oanck Amped Outdoors 12ah Link: ampedoutdoors.com/collections/lifepo4-battery/products/12v-12ah-lifepo4-lithium Amped Outdoors 12ah Teardown video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4KWiqd7hJqAnLs Contact Information: For business inquires or other KZbinrs ONLY. I just don't have time to answer all the emails asking for battery or electrical advice. The only batteries that I recommend are in the video description. email: [e-mail] Affiliate information and disclaimers: Every video includes some form of paid promotion or sponsorship. Links in description are affiliate links. My videos are for educational purpose only. Information is subject to change/update at anytime. Electricity is DANGEROUS and can kill. Be smart and use common sense. Ice Hole Power is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, An affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com FTC Disclosure Statement: Some links on this KZbin channel may be affiliate links. We may get paid if you buy something or take an action after clicking one of these.

[@ETuss713]

Just a quick addition to my other comments. I purchased this battery (6AH) and was able to use it on my kayak for my Garmin Styker 4CV Vivid. The fish finder was on from 9AM to 3PM, 6 hrs. It worked perfectly. When checking the charge with the lcd on the battery it read 13.3V and showed 80-90% full. When I put it on a charger, it showed over 80% and 13.25V. I had 100% backlight, both traditional and Clear View on in CHiRP, and GPS mapping. Hopefully it continues to perform as such.

[@Markks2000]

I bought two of these based on your testing. Both are a complete failure after only two years, and Aric is out of business. I miss your test days, they were always interesting.

[@xander7462]

Thanks for making this video. I just bought 2 Nermak Batts from Amazon to replace the SLA in my scooter. Tired of them not holding charge. But, the form factor is wrong with new batteries. Looks like I can remove them from factory shell, 3d print new shell that meets my needs. Great video!

[@sprinter144]

I’ve got the 24ah battery and it runs my two 9” fishfinders without any issue all day long.

[@ETuss713]

They sold out of the 12ah. I picked up a 6ah. Its just to run my Garmin stryker 4 vivid cv, so it doesnt need to have a huge capacity. It is replacing my Wilderness systems HD lithium 15ah battery pack. I never believed it was 15ah, but its small and worked well for 6 months. Now its about half the capacity it once was.

[@tomearly111]

Just for your information Amped has their 12Ah battery on sale now for $79.99 also the reBel 12Ah battery is not listed for sale on Amazon.

[@iceholepower8012]

They sold out shortly after I posted the video.

[@regularpit1508]

I'm building a speaker in a ammo can and It consumes 7 amps max but I want to put a tall 30Ah battery like Amped has. I can get 6 hours of power at 5A (That's a high estimate) but the biggest issue is maintaining cooling for the amp but still being waterproof. I don't believe heat will be a issue but it's something I will keep my eye on.

[@iceholepower8012]

might be worth it to buy a cheap thermometer and drop it in to see where you are at during use. I would not want it to get much over 140F in there, especially when using lithium. If that happens, you might have to thing about sacrificing water proofing for a small 12v computer fan that you can mount to the side of the box for air flow.

[@chrisrondeau9912]

Just watched this vid, went to look up Rebel and they are no longer listed on Amazon and their own page shows all their batteries as sold out. Looks like they are no longer in business. Bummer!

[@paulgarcia1566]

Ham radio guy here. It would be great if you would review the Bioenno Power brand. These are extremely popular with portable ham radio users. Thanks and good work with this review series!

[@iceholepower8012]

Great idea! I have a few batteries to get through first but will put them on my list. thank you for watching!!

[@waynejoseph2952]

I want to install my own off grid solar system, what is the best and cheapest battery I can use..

[@karenferguson2356]

I've watched a lot of your videos and this Rebel 12Ah is the battery that stands out for me. However, It is no longer available through Amazon or direct from Rebel. Just bought a Helix 7 Chirp MSI GPS G4. What do you recommend as a good second choice? Thanks, Gary

[@MrWhiltetail]

I understand that you don't want to charge a battery at 0C or colder but I keep hearing conflicting info about discharging these type of batteries below 0C. I hear you don't want to do it. Then I hear it's fine to do it and then I hear that they are only safe to discharge down to -10C or -20C. Can you please clarify this subject? If I got it right this particular Rebel battery only works down to -10C or 14 degrees fahrenheit. Ice fishing temperatures are often below this so I'm not sure how usable some or all of these batteries are for ice fishing.

[@aidenschvatkok5732]

Charging below 0c can damage it and allowing it to get below -20 discharging or not can damage it.

[@georgemudd1796]

Like to see a review of a Bioenno battery.

[@michaelregets7672]

Love the attituded and professional presentation. I see you mention some batteries should not be paired in series but indicated Dakota and the Rebel are brands that can be paired in series. I have a Dakota 23 amp battery (I bought prior to your teardown). I now have a 24 volt trolling motor from ep carry. Do you think paring the Rebel 23 volt battery with the 23 volt Dakota will do the trick?

[@Sanctified_Leather]

Thank You. I saw these a while back on Split Milk Productions fishing channel on You Tube and he has Sworn by these batteries. He says it's Amazing. I tried getting these a while back after watching he's Video and review on the Rebel Lithium Batteries but there were all out of stock and I waited for some time and ended getting the Amped Batteries. Maybe later down the road I might try to get my hands on a few, but so far my Amped Outdoor Battery have been just fine for me. Hopefully as you also stated there service can get a whole lot better, because that's a No Go for me even if there great, things can go wrong, and I don't want a Nightmare if I need to get a Hold of them, and Amped is much better with there service. Thank You again for All of your great info and content. 😎👍

[@iceholepower8012]

I will have to check out that Split Milk video. I try not to watch reviews before doing my own so I am not influenced. Thanks for watching!!

[@Sanctified_Leather]

@@iceholepower8012 He did a Pretty good breakdown on the Rebel, I believe he was running the 100AH Rebel on his Old Town Autopilot.

[@MrWhiltetail]

Amazon has this battery for $46.95 right now. Can't beat that!

[@jamesdavis2856]

Yes, They are cheap today on Amazon and the rebel website indicates 4 cells and only a 12a discharge and 6a charge which suggests that they changed to a 4s1p configuration. They may not perform the same as the ones he tested here. As popular as these are, it might be worth another tear down. I was looking for a couple of batteries to put in series for a 24v oset 16 and almost bought these before I noticed they are no longer 4s2p.

[@MrWhiltetail]

@@jamesdavis2856 I emailed Rebel & told him what you said and asked if that was true & here is his response:......... "No, it's the exact same battery we have been selling since day 1. We have upgraded our larger batteries to use better BMS's and wiring, but the smaller ones have not changed."

[@jamesdavis2856]

@@MrWhiltetail awesome. Thanks for the clarification!

[@AlexTimm]

Another great video! Thanks!

[@iceholepower8012]

Thanks buddy!

[@DoroshkevichRoman]

Thank you .

[@dougdaniels]

These are always very educational. I'd like to see a tear down of a Bioenno battery. They are very big in the Ham radio community, and are expensive. It would be great to see if the price is worth it.

[@iceholepower8012]

Thanks for watching Doug! They are definitely on my list!

[@cptwhoopazz]

can you do a millertech teardown please thanks

[@iceholepower8012]

I will add them to my list. Thanks for watching!

[@FargoNDRoland]

Thanks

[@matthewsandys476]

One 36V Battery or Three 12V Batteries? Would love to see a break down of this. Especially with 36 system being 63AH and 12 being 100AH from some manufactures.

[@iceholepower8012]

If the channel grows to justify the cost of the batteries, I will dive into that subject. Thanks for watching!

[@stevenkofoed1698]

Yes, Jeremy great content! I look forward to this battery series. What battery charger would you recommend?

[@iceholepower8012]

Great question. I just bought this one, its cheap and so far holding up well. amzn.to/3rlfAd9

[@flatheadvorhees]

@@iceholepower8012 another good charger to look into is chargers made for rc cars like the hitec. They have different modes for every battery you can think of, li-ion, lifepo4, lead, nimh, and you can pick the charge current you want. Plus you can pick the number of cells 1s,2s, usually up to 6s. The smaller ones will charge up to 5-6 amps the bigger ones will go higher. Along with a display that tells you voltage, current, time and ah put into battery. Can pick em up for about 50 bucks.

[@t3angling575]

Jeremy, great vid. Was wondering, what charger marries up with this battery? Thanks.

[@iceholepower8012]

Great question. I should of covered it in the video. If you have an Amped or Dakota 3 amp LiFeP04 charger, they will work. If you need to buy one, this is a good one that I just off Amazon. amzn.to/3rlfAd9

[@t3angling575]

@@iceholepower8012 cool, thanks. Gonna buy one, for that price, why not, if no go, will get an Amped

[@drdriveone]

I do not see them now offering this battery. They have the 24ah listed. Any thoughts?

[@iceholepower8012]

They are probably just sold out at the moment. I will tear down that 24Ah in the future. My gut feeling is that it will be a good one.

[@Mazlem]

Just need another case an some shrinkwrap an it'll be ready for service!

[@iceholepower8012]

I think so! I am going to try and 3d print a case when I get time.

[@jbpharm99]

I am looking to purchase a 50 to 100 Ah LiFePO4 battery for my 55 lb. thrust trolling motor. I plan to charge it up at end of September and leave it for 9 months in our unheated cottage where in Jan-Feb the nightime temps can reach -30 deg C some nights. Would this damage the battery and if so how would you recommend it be stored?

[@1realtruthrightnow742]

Hello Sir. I have a question. I have a B&D 750W 6.52amps inverter model PI750AB. For the most part it works perfectly. But I'm experimenting with using it with a smaller battery in my chicken coops when needed. I have it hooked up to a GT12080-HG 12v 8ah battery. I can run a fan, laptop radio etc no problem. But when I plug in a 200w heat lamp the inverter goes yellow and cuts the power. it wont work. The battery is fully charged. Why is a 750watt inverter shutting down when plugging in a 200watt heat lamp??? Any ideas? I'm trying to put the lightest battery in my setup I can use just in case I need to move it. I'm 78 and can't much carry heavy things. you think my battery is too small and upgrade to that battery?

[@ETuss713]

Your efforts and information is greatly appreciated. I used ypur link to buy the battery, hope it helps. Do you find that different capacity batteries from the same company can be constructed differently? Maybe a company buys their 20ah from Chinese manufacturer A, while their 6ah is of a different quality from Chinese company B?

[@iceholepower8012]

I have found that to be the case with Dakota Lithium. Only way to tell is to crack it open.

[@jimmiehiebert1]

Great content! I know nothing about batteries. I’m looking into a bigger battery for my Terrova trolling motor. Can I expect the same build quality in them as the smaller ones you review? Thanks

[@iceholepower8012]

Great question! In my experience, the larger batteries seem to get more quality assurance attention than their smaller counterparts.

[@kutlwanosmollsmoll8759]

Thanks for the video I have a question can I connect 4 off this batterys in parallel an use solar panel to charge an can I run my fridge an computer out of that

[@iceholepower8012]

You can connect 4 in parallel and charge it with a panel. However you will probably need a bigger battery to run a fridge and computer. This one can't handle the amp draw.

[@christopherherrmann6269]

Another great video, thanks for all the helpful info. Keep up the great work..

[@iceholepower8012]

Thanks buddy!

[@MrWhiltetail]

I what to order one of these batteries but Rebel batteries have been sold out for a while now and he hasn't answered the email yet that I sent last night. Does anybody know if Rebel went out of business?

[@johnwilliamson4231]

Good deal

[@DeanJacobs]

Does this battery need any special charger? Could I use the charger that came with the cheap battery I bought from Amazon? Thanks for the great videos!

[@iceholepower8012]

Hi Dean, thanks for watching! I assume you are talking about a sealed lead acid charger and yes can probably get away with using it. A couple things to keep in mind, that charger will likely be in the 13.6v range or so, where a lithium charger is around 14.6v so you would never fully charge the battery. Also, these batteries have a low voltage protection circuit where if you drain the battery and let it sit for a while without charging it. I would go into "sleep mode" to prevent low voltage damage to the cells. If that were to happen, then it would need to see the higher voltage. The good news is that the chargers for these are only like $20, here is a good one on Amazon. amzn.to/3rlfAd9

[@DeanJacobs]

@@iceholepower8012 Thanks so much for the quick response! Really like your videos. I'm looking to put a trolling motor on my kayak and I'm looking for a battery in the 100 ah range, could probably get by with a little less. Would the Rebel batteries at that level be a good fit? Do you have any recommendations for batteries at that power level? Thanks!

[@iceholepower8012]

@@DeanJacobs I think they are sold out of 100Ah, however i am testing this 100Ah for a video in May and so far, it's a good one. amzn.to/3rKwzph

[@tlpoutdoorsman]

Will this run my 7 inch Lowrance fish finder well?

[@iceholepower8012]

Assuming you have a Hook 7? That unit draws 1.25 Amps so 12Ah/1.25A = 9.6 hours of run time.

[@alberthighsaw5622]

Can I use this Battery on my Garnin 12volt live scope? And I still need your real good help.

[@iceholepower8012]

You can but there are better options out there with more capacity for longer run times. If you are having an issue with your DIY box, email me some pics of your wiring and I will look it over. [e-mail]

[@jasonbroom7147]

Are you back in production again, because I'm looking to build a smaller power station and might like to buy one of your kits. Clicked like at "OH! $H!T!" :)

[@iceholepower8012]

kinda, we have some kits online and I will be building a few boxes this weekend and restocking the store. Thanks for watching and the like! you can find those kits at www.iceholepower.com

[@todlaplant4495]

I run humminbird depth finders ice fishing. Would the rebel be a good battery for those.

[@iceholepower8012]

This battery case might be a bit too big for the helix ice pack. The MarCum 10Ah had similar build quality minus the cold temp charging protection. MarCum 10Ah BRUTE Amazon Link: amzn.to/3CxxxYN MarCum 10Ah BRUTE Teardown Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWbIZXqYjrR_fq8

[@todlaplant4495]

@@iceholepower8012 thank you

[@mikewilson7132]

do they make a 24 volt 100 ah battery i have been looking for one for my boat

[@iceholepower8012]

I dont see one but you could take a couple of their 12v 100ah and wire them in series. amzn.to/3KFmOAe

[@tpalshadow]

Looks like the 12AH is no longer available on Amazon.

[@iceholepower8012]

It's a good one. Hopefully they restock. Here is a link to the batteries that I recommend. www.iceholepower.com/lithium-batteries

[@brian_bassfishes_li]

I’m hearing things from other kayak guys about Millertech (MTech) lithium batteries anyway you’d be able to do a review on them before I decide to spend 825$ lol.

[@iceholepower8012]

I dont have any experience with them. The channel would need to grow a bit more to justify the cost before I can tear one apart.

[@brian_bassfishes_li]

The 825$ is for the 100ah battery I believe they have others at lower price points. @@iceholepower8012

[@enderst81]

Almost like they've been watching your videos

[@fratermus5502]

Not sure what has happened to RB. A couple years ago they were famous for fast and informative replies in email, forums, etc. Also haven't published any vids to their channel in a year. Maybe Aric is in over his head. Luckily my 100Ah RB batt with bluetooth is functioning perfectly (522 days so far, cycled daily).

[@rickday4988]

Would you recommend this battery in 100 ah setting? Needing to purchase two 100 ah for two motorguide xi3’s

[@iceholepower8012]

I think it would be a solid battery for your trolling motor. Those ones even have Bluetooth monitoring. amzn.to/3rAzWPN

[@rickday4988]

@@iceholepower8012 thanks I appreciate your time and reply!

[@QSA10]

Whoa! Click the like button on this video for a little flash of red hand, must be new feature.

[@davidoldkitten2660]

YOU ARE RIJHT BROTHER .... i have emailed this place several times with problems with these REBEL BATTERIES 100 ah batteries and NO RESPONSE this is not good service to your customers. so that means this place has NO customer support or service no help i would not recommend buying these Batteries if you Buy there is No support and warranty ...I HAVE WARNED YOU...

[@charlesycoker]

Bad customer service from Rebel?