Rebel 500 and Vulcan S Comparison

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Basic Specs
2017 Honda Rebel 500
SPECIFICATIONS
Engine Type
471cc liquid-cooled parallel-twin four-stroke
Bore And Stroke
67mm x 66.8mm
Compression Ratio
10.7:1
Valve Train
DOHC; 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission
Six-Speed
Front Suspension
41mm fork; 4.8 inches travel
Rear Suspension
Dual shocks with 3.8 inches travel
Front Brake
Hydraulic disc
Rear Brake
Hydraulic disc
Front Tire
130/90-16
Rear Tire
150/80-16
Rake
28°0' (Caster Angle)
Trail
110mm (4.3 inches)
Wheelbase
58.7 inches
Seat Height
27.2 inches
Curb Weight
408 pounds (Includes all standard equipment, required fluids and a full tank of fuel-ready to ride)
Fuel Capacity
2.96 gallons
Vulcan S
Engine
4-stroke, 2-cylinder, DOHC, liquid-cooled
Displacement
649cc
Bore x Stroke
83.0 x 60.0mm
Compression Ratio
10.8:1
Maximum Torque
46.3 lb-ft @ 6600 rpm
Fuel System
DFI® 38mm throttle bodies (2), with sub-throttle valves
Ignition
TCBI with digital advance
Transmission
6-speed with positive neutral finder
Final Drive
Sealed Chain
Frame Type
High-tensile steel diamond frame
Rake/Trail
31°/4.7 in
Overall Length
90.9 in
Overall Width
34.6 in
Overall Height
43.3 in
Ground Clearance
5.1 in
Seat Height
27.8 in
Curb Weight
498.3 lb**
Fuel Capacity
3.7 gal
Wheelbase
62.0 in
Rabid Hedgehog and Savage Seagull are not paid endorsers

[@_Meriwether]

I test rode both. Honda let me keep the Rebel for 2 days, Kawasaki let me keep the Vulcan for a day. I found the Rebel marginally more fun around town, but the Vulcan was by _far_ the superior machine overall. I liked the Rebel, but _bought the Vulcan._ Absolutely love it.

[@joshuamoe1871]

I love this kind of review. I'm going to soon be a first time rider, and I am leaning towards a Vulcan S. Thanks guys

[@TheGarthinator]

Nice I got the Rebel, met a guy who had the Vulcan S on a group ride, its a sweet looking bike.

[@singlecell2498]

Whats it like

[@singlecell2498]

@@TheGarthinator what's urs like too?

[@TheGarthinator]

@@singlecell2498 yeah the rebel 500 is mint. Gets a lot more attention than I thought it would tbh. The other day had 3 guys on big Harleys marveling over it.

[@PeterReid1993]

@@TheGarthinator having rode both the Rebel 500 and the Vulcan S. I personally prefer the Vulcan S. I’m a bit taller (6’0) and the Vulcan S fits me like a glove. The Rebel was more compact and easy to snap around turns and twisties, so if you’re a shorter rider or looking to whip through tight roads then that’s your best bet. The Vulcan is a bit faster and snappy on the throttle, if you’re looking for something to really put some solid mileage on then it’s your better choice. Both are smaller bikes and by that nature easy to handle and whip through turns and twisty roads so keep that in mind.

[@MikeEDude]

I just spent 2 weeks figuring out which of these 2 bikes to buy, and after riding each one I ended up falling in love with the Vulcan because of its sheer torque that I felt it had over the Rebel, and it's comfort felt better. I also was buying this for an occasional commuter and a weekend trip bike with my girlfriend and the rear seat was way better on the Vulcan! Now if I was only commuting around town, hell yeah the rebel was amazing. So light weight and nimble. But I think the Vulcan will take much more time to grow out of due to its additional features and power. Amazing comparison video though guys, you've earned a sub! :)

[@bennyang8049]

Hi mike, i owned a 2015 vulcan s 650 but i gave it up after over a year. I loved the acceleration. It is a crotch rocket. My biggest gripe was I cannot ride it for more than an hour.. the vibration at speeds when i have to maintain over 4k rpm, the bike’s vibration makes my feet, lower leg, hands and fingers numb especially on long freeway continuous ride. How are you with it? I am curious.

[@MikeEDude]

@@bennyang8049 so I have only had the bike since Thursday, but my freeway riding has been no longer than 30 minutes at a time. I have put over 200 miles on it so far and haven't noticed vibrating yet!

[@corneilcorneil]

Try the Vulcan 900 slower, but so much more bike

[@tonyh4233]

@@bennyang8049 Hi Benny, sad to hear you sold it, did you take it to the shop to check for a problem...balancing? My Vulcan has vibes at 3200rpm only then zero up to any range on the tacho

[@bennyang8049]

Tony Hagoort i rode another rider’s vulcan S during a group ride and a Versys 650 at a demo ride and the vibration is the same as mine. I figured that is just the character of the kawasaki 650 engine

[@sergiuulici3908]

in about 1 month honda will release the new honda rebel 500 2020 model with all things people complained about fixed. new led lights on it , suspension fixed , and for begginers a gear indicator, and a way better seat so it will be the perfect bike for me untill i die.enough power to get out of trouble every time. when i see a rebel on the street i smile. that`s happiness for me. can`t wait to buy the new one and customize it in order to be an unique motorcycle! the vulcan s is a nice bike, but i will follow my heart.

[@RabidHedgehog]

I am hoping to try it out when it hits.

[@bern9067]

I just purchased the 2020, such a beautiful street bike

[@sergiuulici3908]

@@bern9067 icant wait to get mine Next month. Indeed is a bike that you Will never have to sell.

[@bern9067]

@@sergiuulici3908 nice man! yeah, i love it. I look back every time I park it. Haha

[@jdm2626]

I absolutely love the color on that Vulcan!

[@asssets]

Great review with a ton of information and details about each. Very helpful for a new rider.

[@gregm9230]

Excellent comparison and review, guys! Thanks

[@RabidHedgehog]

Thanks for the support!

[@jasonpalmer1597]

I bought a 2020 Rebel 500 and absolutely love it!!

[@rickmangler9267]

Excellent video guys. As a soon to be returning rider, this is what I needed as I am considering one or the other.

[@RabidHedgehog]

Thank you for the support!

[@bunchu1443]

It's amazing, your review has helped me a lot. ~Always ride safely~

[@RabidHedgehog]

You as well and thanks!

[@johnmartinrogers2352]

I like most all of the reviewers but you are at the top of the heap: informative, articulate, fun for the listener and you do it all without swearing. Good job.

[@RabidHedgehog]

Thank you for the support!

[@kimhorton6109]

Years ago I had a rigid framed BSA gold Star that I had to ride back and forth from Shreveport where I worked to Houston where my family lived. After that I picked up a Honda CB5004F. Both these bikes cemented the belief in my brain that 500cc was as capable as MY bike needed to be. After years that have included a Z1, 2 ST1300s, 2 Goldwings, Yammie 750 Virago, BMW K75 and R90/6 I still love the 500cc class bikes. Easy to own, economical to operate and light

[@BurkeStanion]

I bought a 2015 Vulcan S (non - ABS) in April of 2018. It was sold new in 2017 and had only 394 miles on it. I hadn't ridden in over 27 years. I rode a 78 Suzuki GS850 back in the early 90's. When the dealer told me about the trade that they had just taken in that was in my price range, I asked what it was and the displacement. He told me it was a 650 Kawasaki Vulcan. I was not impressed over the phone, but I went down and test rode it. The rest is history. I immediately fell in love with how it feels to ride the Vulcan S. It has plenty of power and it's still very light feeling. It's a great looking motorcycle and I'm confident that it will last a long time without issues. It's liquid cooled. I get 48-60 mpg. It's more impressive than I ever imagined possible. I did add mirror extensions to raise the mirrors. I was looking at my shoulders. I haven't ridden a Rebel. It's a nice looking bike too.

[@RabidHedgehog]

Well as stated I love me the Vulcan S as well as it is a bike that punches high above the CC class and is a blast to ride. But for the needs we have it is fun to have the more narrow and light 500CC. However, I will do a stand alone on this bike as it never has seen the light on this channel yet and we've had it now for almost two years and to also explain in greater detail what this bike has to offer. Enjoy and be safe on your Vulcan you have a great motorcycle. RSMF

[@jazz3733]

how much did you pay for it?

[@singlecell2498]

Still got it?

[@VikingBagsYT]

great video! We here at Vikingbags really love your content!

[@RabidHedgehog]

If you do you could always send some things our way to test.

[@alanwareham7391]

Many thanks for making this as there’s more and more bikers that have been riding for years and although they have been riding for such a long time they now want a bike that’s not a sport bike but one that importantly is not as heavy as as the 700 +lbs of a traditional cruiser also being well behaved in city driving and is capable of keeping up with motorway traffic for the odd week end away. I would like to see you match either of these bikes against the Royal Enfield

[@louishuelsman6698]

Thank u so much - cause I'm gonna get a bike and it is gonna be 1 of them... Great video and I just subscribe cause of it!!!

[@markpeters7772]

I have a 2017 Rebel 500, I put a Puig wind screen on and a Mustang seat and a mustang passenger seat I also put Shad 23 side cases. And for my wife’s safety I added a sissy bar with a padded back rest. It also has a rack for additional carry options. Great bike and has all the speed and power I need. 0-60 in under 6 seconds. I’m 68 and 5’6” so this bike fits my age and height. I looked at the Vulcan and felt the tank was to wide and it felt top heavy so I went with the rebel and no regrets.

[@RD2564]

Great video on two good general purpose motorcycles, Honda Rebel 500 and Kawasaki Vulcan S 650. Route 33 and South Division St. in Guthrie, OK, I figured out your route with the help of Google Maps. Guthrie is a real nice looking town, never been there, but I enjoyed your quick "tour". Cheers from Vancouver, BC.

[@MRTPR]

Nice review Mate. I think that they are very good for the money and very good around the town. As you suggested I think that the Vulcan S would be the best for the high way. Thank you for sharing.

[@RabidHedgehog]

Thanks for the support!

[@MichelCernev]

Thanks for the comparison. JUST BRILLIANT.

[@RabidHedgehog]

Thanks for the support!

[@TheRavinoth]

Great video! I owned a 2014 CB500F which the Rebel 500 shares its engine with and it is a great motor that is usually more than enough for tons of fun. My main gripe was that at speeds around 100 km/h it doesn't get up and go very well for passing. I would wager that the 650 Vulcan would be better for that. That being said, it's perfectly fine to just stay in your lane and enjoy the ride in most cases without passing so not being able to make decisive passes isn't a deal-breaker to everyone. It's nice to see people look past a spec sheet when reviewing a bike. My current bike is 556 lbs and sometimes I miss the lightweight CB500F; it just takes a bit more concentration to ride the GSX650F in tight spaces and sharp U-turns than the CB500F did which I sometimes miss.

[@jz1160]

Its good all the negatives of the Honda Rebel they have upgraded for the 2020 year, being, upgraded suspension, new seat, cluster with a gear indicator in it, comes with LED front and rear lights too as standard - I definitely will be buying one later in the year when i have time to pick up riding again

[@RabidHedgehog]

I shall be trying to ride and review one as soon as I can.

[@GabrielintheDark]

This is hilarious, the Vulcan's suspension is better, torque is better, hp is better, instruments are better... but the 500 "has character".... Something is not jiving with this review. Good video, nice production quality, and I love that you did the review while riding. I just wish your conveyed impressions matched your breakdowns of each bike.

[@Voltomess]

yep ladies and gentlemen this review is sponsored by HONDA!!!

[@locdawg3815]

​@@Voltomess😂😂😂 definitely! Vulcan all the way!!!

[@philnorman5912]

You can't go wrong here both great bikes.

[@paxas03]

As a first rider and being sport bike lover I would go for Ninja 400, but also loving the rebel 500. Two different styles and behaviors I would love to get them both but have to choose one.

[@JLRide]

Thanks for the comparison. I have a 2015 Vulcan S with ABS and I love it. It handles great, has really good acceleration, and is light for a cruiser. My first motorcycle was a 2006 Honda Rebel Chinese copycat and it was good to learn on but as soon as I got comfortable, I wanted more power. My 2nd motorcycle was a 2012 Honda Shadow Phantom and that one looked amazing and had the more power I was looking for at the time. I had a near accident on the highway when the breaks locked up on me in an emergency and I decided to upgrade to a motorcycle with ABS. The Vulcan S is that bike. It has great breaking with ABS and it also has more power and is lighter than the Honda Shadow. All that for roughly the same price. When people ask me for advice on a 1st bike I can’t decide between the new Honda Rebel with ABS and the Kawasaki Vulcan S with ABS. So thank you for your input. Sounds like the lightness of the Rebel makes it a more interesting ride.

[@RabidHedgehog]

Being lighter on its feet and the mid mount controls do help it out for sure. The Vulcan S is not a bad bike at all by any measure at all. It's just when it comes down to the fun to ride and play in town nature of the 500 and its character it does win.

[@robertmassive5335]

how is te ground clearance on the kawasaki?

[@JLRide]

@@robertmassive5335 Really good ground clearance for a cruiser but it isn't an adventure bike.

[@JLRide]

@Bunnyshooter 223 I think every new car sold in the USA has ABS. It only comes in handy in emergency situations which is when you need it most. If you were an expert race car driver or motorcycle rider then ABS would potentially not be as good at braking as you but I am not an expert and I have my Oh Sh*t moments in cars and motorcycles so I appreciate having ABS and a good set of tires to save my behind. I also tend to ride or drive fairly aggressively at times so the extra safety feature is welcomed by me. Stay safe.

[@billparker8954]

>Honda Rebel Chinese copycat Nope

[@JohnnyRebKy]

Even for a guy who's been riding almost 20 years can have fun on these. It's more fun to ride a small bike hard and fast than a big bike where it's easy. Just more exciting in my opinion. I'm looking for a small bike to do just that on instead of riding my 1600 all the time

[@blackbird69xxx]

Great reviewing technique how you ride together asking questions and comparing . excellent for sure. But im not sure which to get..... like the nimble 500 but maybe the 650 will be better for me at 5ft ... and a bit more grunt. All the best from the uk

[@RabidHedgehog]

Their both good choices and I am not sure of your license classes for these, but I know the insurance on the 500 would be better for you and it's not really all that far behind. Yes the 650 will out run it all day long in speed and maybe (pre-2020 Rebel), long comfort. But with the newer Rebel with improved springs and seating and such it's much tougher on long range comfort, just speed at that point.

[@dalegarrard9446]

Great review. I own one...its great

[@MOUSEBOWEN]

They did upgrade on the 2020 Honda Rebel 500 . speedometer display shows the gears that you are on .suspension .headlight and blinkers and the clutch

[@thevelointhevale1132]

I'll be buying the new 2020 Rebel 500 ABS + LED etc ... looks AMAZING!

[@RabidHedgehog]

I am wanting to get a ride on the new one to see what improvements were indeed made.

[@Miguelvillaloboss]

Did you buy it? If so how’s is it man?

[@stevenholmes3589]

Awesome comparison. I am gonna get the Vulcan S. Would like the Yamaha Bolt but hearing and seeing the speed wobble makes me nervous. Also wanted to say you awesome for replying to these comments. Especially the details on editing since I want the recording hobby along with riding this time. Thanks for the content.

[@crumbcake11]

same

[@Concionator]

Thank you for this video, I'm just deciding between these two bikes and I prefer Honda Rebel 500 (2020).

[@RabidHedgehog]

They are a great motorcycle for sure. Both have their pros and such but I need to try the 2020 to get the updated list.

[@Concionator]

@@RabidHedgehog So, men, I finally own this bike (2020 edition with ABS): great, nimble and funny bike with only one problem - replacing battery takes really long time. It's unbelievably difficult! :oD But I like it, at all!

[@joygernautm6641]

Yay!!! Just bought the rebel 500 and love it so much. I’m so glad to be able to read reviews before I chose a bike. I test ride the Vulcan and just like you said, The rebel felt like more of an extension of me whereas the Vulcan just felt a little ungainly being a new rider.

[@RabidHedgehog]

Enjoy and ride safe!

[@tylergable2445]

After 5 months how are you enjoying the rebel 500? Sorry to ask, but do you mind sharing what you paid for it? I spoke with a dealer and they’re offering $5,500+tax and licensing fee for a used rebel500 with 1,500 miles on it. Does that sound like a good deal?

[@davisturk8975]

Tyler Gable hey I’m in ur same position, looking for a rebel 500 and i think yu can find better.. maybe wait for winter to kick in and you’ll see better deals. That’s what I’m doing

[@tylergable2445]

Davis Turk does that not seem like a good deal? How much do you anticipate bike price to drop in winter? And with the 2020 release maybe the price will drop too, but i’m not sure how much. That’s the problem

[@sergiuulici3908]

@@tylergable2445 hey there , if you didnt buy the honda rebel yet, you should seriously save 1000$ and buy the new honda rebel 2020 which has fixed all the problems .5.500 is too much for an used motorcycle, new motorcycle a lot of new accesories, and is only 6.100$ here in Spain. in about 1 month i go for the blue version and it will be awesome. take care

[@mag357man]

I haven't ridden either bike, but as an experienced rider, I'd go with the Vulcan with ABS. More power, adjustable ergo's, better seat(according to ur review). I've had bikes that "didn't fit" and sold them. No bike will work for everyone's needs. Nice review....😸

[@RabidHedgehog]

Thanks for the support and it's sadly true no perfect machine exists for everyone.

[@morecringe89]

Excellent for knowing your own name, I see this video will be a very optimistic one

[@Kimchi_Studios]

"I'm completely agree"

[@battletoads22]

So, I just got my cycle endorsement and I don't have a bike yet, and I'm looking at both of these bikes, and I am going to test ride them, but as a dude who is 6'5", the Rebel has me concerned with those middle mounted pegs. I've done some tests in my chair here and I've noticed that it's harder to kick my foot up as if I'm upshifting the closer my foot is to my body. It puts a strain in my Achilles' tendon and my instep. The bike I learned on was an HD Street 500 and if I didn't commit to the upshift, I would get a false neutral. One time I even had it in 3rd by mistake (I upshifted twice). So, for my skills test, when it came to the one test where we had to be in 2nd gear, since it wasn't my bike, I just decided to kick the gear up as hard as I could. So, I'm definitely more interested in the Vulcan S for its forward mounted pegs.

[@UncleBensChannel]

I got a 2017 Vulcan S for $4K. Had 120 miles on it, never dropped.

[@RabidHedgehog]

Nice ride it safe!

[@Voltomess]

you like it? trying to decide which one to get

[@GaragebandandBeyond]

You should make a Rebel vs the HD 883 drag race video!!

[@RabidHedgehog]

We should! Just need someone that has another 883N since my buddy sold his.

[@GaragebandandBeyond]

I understand. I've been riding for 27 years and I'm drooling over that Rebel! It looks so great!

[@roberttaylor465]

You can ride the vulcan like a slow thumpy cruiser or use the revs to make it perform like a sports bike, the narrow tyres help with tipping into the corners.

[@RabidHedgehog]

Another thing is if you are in the US you can remove the limiter on it that makes it Ninja 650 power again, if anywhere else it is a limiter and a screw in the throttle.

[@TrevorBechard]

Wish I bought the Vulcan

[@reinblunt]

Hey +Rabid Hedgehog, Thanks for a great review! I just bought the Rebel 500 in all black!! What headset did you and Seagull use? The audio sounds super clear! :)

[@RabidHedgehog]

Seagull is using a Purple Panda Lav mic into Sony AS-100V straight up. I am using a modified Sena 20S mic only to Sony UX560 digital audio recorder. We can hear each other talk through a standard Sena 20S.

[@tylergable2445]

Can you share the price you bought it at? Used or new?

[@ardalla535]

I went into the dealership yesterday to try out the Vulcan. I was sitting on it and the bars were a bit too far forward. So I asked the salesman about Ergofit. Guess what he said. "Yeah, we got Ergofit. But I don't think you need it." "Look here, I have to lean forward 2 inches to make it fit my reach." "Meh. How long you gonna ride. It'll be fine." What a great salesman, eh? Arguing with the customer about what feels comfortable. I may drive 50 miles north and get an Indian Scout instead.

[@RabidHedgehog]

Would not blame you if that's what they're doing. If you're in Oklahoma go to Indian of OKC for the Scout

[@marksmith3995]

Hahahaha stupid salesman

[@Steve-qw8ll]

Picked up a 2019 Vulcan S in February 2020, with 1,700 miles, for $4,500.00. What a deal. Just like new.

[@Voltomess]

you like it?

[@SkepticRaider]

Great review! I’ll try the Rebel 500 to see if it fits me, since I’m 6’1…

[@Username-jz9sl]

Well? I’m also 6’1 and it’s my only hesitation

[@SkepticRaider]

@@Username-jz9sl I've sat on a Rebel and it felt fine. However, personally I'm leaning towards something else right now. Maybe something with an actual V-Twin... 😂

[@jbcf4490]

My 2 favourite cruisers

[@RabidHedgehog]

They're both very fun.

[@betruly7894]

Nice review dude, so to the point. In Belgium the Rebel500 is not sold well, riders go to Vulcan s instead. The seat of the Vucan S is so confortable, the Rebel 500 seat is hard from minute one. I'm agree with you, Rebel500 al the way for the reasons that you mentioned.

[@RabidHedgehog]

And a couple of extra dollars, but still under the price of the Vulcan S, you can get that seat changed too! But I do like both bikes and it does help to have both in the garage. I will hopefully one day have the perspective of my wife who is the main rider of the Vulcan S and what she thinks of both.

[@betruly7894]

@@RabidHedgehog Hello, did you get your wife perspective of both bikes? This summer I may buy the Vulcan S new over the Rebel 500 just because my wife chooses for me :) , I love both bikes and wish to have both of them. I will go with the Vulcan S because I'm afraid that I will grow up the Rebel 500 quickly.

[@jaemeister.]

Drove both and enjoyed both of em. I prefer the Rebel more cause I find it more comfortable to ride than the Vulcan. Doesn't mean the Vulcan isn't comfortable but I have short and stuby legs.

[@dastinhofman2244]

Vulcan🔥

[@mrblackbond]

Stupid question (i am not a rider, but interested): how did you two communicate and how was it SO clear?! I am super impressed. Just looks like sucha fun thing to do. Ride around town with your buddy having conversations etc.

[@RabidHedgehog]

Not a stupid question at all. The audio is a bit on the rigged side on this as there were two separate field recorders along with two separate mics. However, there are helmet communication systems from Sena and Cardo that are really good at transmitting conversations, which is how we heard each other so we knew when to talk and how to answer questions.

[@Sig721Tau]

In the beginning of the video, were you guys rolling through Mulhaul or Guthrie? Later on, I had noticed that it was main street of Guthrie.

[@RabidHedgehog]

South sides of Logan County actually travelling up to Guthrie on Broadway to go through on Noble then Division.

[@josephsantana3094]

The Rebel beat the 883 because it actually has a better power to weight ratio. Even against the Vulcan S the power to weight ratio is almost identical between the two. Now the Vulcan (and 883) do have more torque, but the difference felt in the seat shouldn't be all that different. And starting with the 2020 model the Rebel display has been updated with a gear indicator and a couple other things, but still no tachometer. But it's better than it was. The Rebel also has a very nice slipper clutch which the Vulcan does not have. Main advantages for the Vulcan in my opinion are better looks, better stock exhaust and better aftermarket exhaust options, and most importantly just better comfort for longer rides. Now if you consider the $1000+ price difference, you can buy the Rebel and upgrade the seat, exhaust, and make some cosmetic changes to suit your own taste and you eliminate all these disadvantages.

[@msvalina007]

I'm getting the Rebel 300, and the Vulcan will be my upgrade bike. I'm short and want as light of a bike as possible as my first bike. Get my confidence up THEN get the heavier bike.

[@RabidHedgehog]

That is not a bad idea. Ride safe when you do!

[@cablecutter12]

Hope you're buying used for first bike. Especially if you're getting the rebel 300.

[@Voltomess]

how small?

[@siddalida9778]

I heard you both, but i have my insights since i am planning to buy one of the two choices... Firsr i have to confirmed for Asean market if the honda, their assembly line is in China, if it is there... Scratch.. 2nd, i have to see for myself phisically the difference, then on the vulcan s, i have to look for replacement parts for longevity and the availability of parts, in my city honda if it is a celphone, it is a user friendly, many parts available.. But on the big bike category, they are even... There is also if the ground clearance is low, philippines has lots of lots of humps and bad roads.. So i go for much higher ground clearance.. We filipinos love those japanese brand makers... Like i said, your advice is well i think helps a lot.. Thanks... Lastly, VULCAN S. Is a named taken for vulcano i think, meaning hot, as a fire fighter in my city, Vulcan is our radio call sign. Thats one thing maybe i go for the Vulcan S.... Lol. Peace and love... Have a safe drive along the way!

[@JohnnyRebKy]

I miss having a small bike. Bigger isn’t always better. My Vulcan 1600 is like driving a dump truck sometimes. Besides it’s more fun to push a small bike sometimes 👍🏼

[@RabidHedgehog]

For sure. That is the one thing that I have always kept in the garage is the small bike. With the Dyna there was a Sporty, with the Night Rod there was this Rebel, but many other small bikes as well. Z125, XT250, my wife's S40 which I would oddly swipe every now and again. Now it is a 41 year old CX500C, but it's still that wonderful small displacement machine that you can get to 100% of what it can do and not really or actually be breaking the law completely.

[@poonhh]

I'm interested in how you do your audio recording. Would you mind to share how you setup your recording?

[@RabidHedgehog]

I use a purple panda mic in each helmet. Each of us is also using a separate field recorder. Either a TASCAM DR-05 or Sony UX560. We then use the Cardo PackTalk, (or in this case Sena 20S), to talk back and forth to hear each other. So this allows a cleaner audio.

[@richardlee105]

I do agree with you on a lot points about the Honda Rebel 500 but It does have an ABS option for 300 dollars more. Personally my choice would be the Kawasaki Vulcan 650 but I wouldn't recommend the Vulcan to a total new rider that just pass their MSF course.

[@Zee216]

The Vulcan S has been great for me as a first bike

[@MrSokgunslinger]

Vulcan s was my first bike and I still have it, spend the extra money because you will get bored pretty quick on the rebel 500.

[@SprakanaKerum]

@@MrSokgunslinger when you say "bored," do you mean you need more power and the Rebel couldn't deliver?

[@MrSokgunslinger]

Fleetfoot S more power and more agility but that’s just my opinion.

[@turtle19dad]

What year is your Vulcan S? My Rebel frustrates me because I would I’ve a tach or gear indicator. And I love the color of the Vulcan S.

[@RabidHedgehog]

It is a 2016 Vulcan S Se ABS

[@DoomFinger511]

What helmet is the guy riding the rebel 500 in the beginning of the video wearing? The black helmet with the yellow visor.

[@RabidHedgehog]

That is a Scorpion EXO

[@watdaef2848]

I love honda rebel 500

[@bradchellingworth5973]

Nice video, though at times I did get confused about a) who was talking, and b) which bike they were referring to. But otherwise, great review. Think I'm sold on the Vulcan

[@RabidHedgehog]

It is not a bad platform. Overall the only reason the Rebel won this was due to affordability and versatility. The Vulcan S though is much quicker yes, but a bit more expensive in both MSRP and insurance.

[@konstantinosliolios7112]

You said you are 6footer and yet prefer the Honda. I felt it was so low, it was impossible to find a comfortable posture. Is there a workaround?

[@RabidHedgehog]

The key is having oddly short arms for someone my size maybe my inseam is 32 inches but my arm span is only like 29.75 inches, so kind of short which allows a different seating position. However, the Vulcan S in the garage is set for reduced reach as well so I feel more smashed on it for some reason despite a comparable riders triangle.

[@lgwappo]

Ergonomics appear very different. Foot pegs look further forward on the Kawasaki & maybe more comfortable for those with longer legs. Honda ergonomics look very similar to the Suzuki S40 I used to have & it was the most painful bike I ever rode. (Try before you buy!) Probably fine for riders under 5'5".

[@floridaredneck]

Thanks for your video; I appreciate the confusion. I don't think the age of this video would change my question and I'm shopping between these two right now. One of you mentioned that the Rebel was "easier to insure" than the Vulcan. Now, had he said "cheaper", I would have understood that, so I was hoping you might clarify what "easier" means? While I'm at it, I am not a completely new rider, but one who hasn't in a very long time and I thought I might choose a Rebel because of it's size and weight (color choices are better too). I'm 5, 11 & 150#, but also a gym rat, so bike weight isn't an issue, but size is. The Rebel 900 is too big for me and would be wasted. Whatever model I get, I don't want to replace it - ever. I'm thinking I might be more satisfied with the Vulcan in my case, even though just crossing town would be what I would mainly do with it. I don't want to get a Rebel and then think I should have gotten the larger engine on the Vulcan. In my town (Lakeland) we use the interstate (I-4) frequently, but if only 2 or 3 exits. Then there's the occasional trip to Orlando on one side, Tampa on the other by about 45 minutes, once or twice a year. Okay, maybe bike week in Daytona too. I must be comfortable going 80, so I won't get run over. But other than that, I'm not going canyon riding or racing. I have no "need for speed", other than what is necessary to keep up with traffic without taxing the engine. I'm not sure if a Rebel and a featherweight rider might get blown off the road. I'm a very fit 64 and I want a bike to keep, not to trade later. As a for instance, my car is 6 years old, paid for, looks new (I'm an auto detailer) and I have no intention of replacing it; that was my intent when I bought it too. I don't want perpetual car payments or motorcycle payments either. For this type of purchase, I make an informed decision, love what I buy and keep it forever. I wanted the Rebel first, then I think I decided on the Vulcan, but then the Rebel keeps popping up again. I am enjoying my frustration and indecision, but all good things must come to an end. I'll let you know what that end, ends up being.

[@Mike.L.]

I've only owned two street bikes, both cruisers (Honda Shadow Sabre 1100 and Honda VTX1300R) so my experience is limited. I sold the VTX just over a year ago and am really missing being on two wheels. As I'm getting older (51 now) and am not a big guy anyway (5'6" and 170 lbs.,) I find myself wanting a smaller, lighter bike that I can just have more fun on. I know the Rebel will have no power compared to the VTX. It had crazy power and I loved it. I don't see me riding the interstate very often. I would be riding back roads and small highways mostly. I've been trying to decide between the Vulcan S and the Rebel 500 for a while. I think the fun factor and lower weight makes me want to go with the Rebel. Add to that it's basically made for someone my size. I don't need the power of the VTX anymore. I just want to get on two wheels and have fun. Besides, I used to have an absolute blast riding a 150cc scooter. LOL. I think the 2020 Rebel 500 will suit me fine.

[@RainerWiset]

The Rebel make one 1100ccm 86hp, and a DCR Version with no Clutch, Automatic and Manual Gear, Gears Change with 2 Paddle on your Steering not with you feet, But need a ECU Flash have a 98 Mph Limit same the Rebel 500 have this Limit, for an 1100 ccm and 86 hp Bike is this slow, for the 500 ccm ok

[@Naveen27]

Pls do a comparison between the Royal Enfield GT 650 and the rebel 500.

[@RabidHedgehog]

If that shall ever present itself. We currently do not have a Royal Enfield dealer at this time. We had one for like three months and they decided to just pull the line.

[@Emre01689]

Hello! Can you please explain how you cut this video ? How you added the voice of the other driver? Wich cutting Programm do you use ? Please help 🙏🏻

[@RabidHedgehog]

This video was filmed with a Sony AS-100V for Savage Seagull with a Purple Panda Lav mic to the camera itself and for mine it is a Sony FDR-X3000 with a purple panda lav mic to TASCAM DR-05 field recorder since I ride all weather and the camera is in its waterproof housing. We then use Sena 20S Bluetooth to talk to each other so we know what is being said, but we upload the audio form the field recorder and his video into Premiere Pro CC. Audio is then synced by using the clap method when we were still and all the mics could hear the audio sync to later match in Premier so that the audio is seamless as it is matching the conversation the entire way. Audio from the other side is cut when the other is speaking as well so that the only voice being heard is the one speaking. Hope that helps.

[@Emre01689]

@@RabidHedgehog great !! thank u soo much !!!

[@clintonrudkavich3058]

Great comparison video! I've been dealing on both these bikes and seriously change my mind every hour. Option 1 is a 2018 rebel 500 with 2300kms $5500 Option 2 is a 2016 vulcan s with 4500kms $5000. This in Canadian dollars. I'm leaning towards the rebel for fun /reliably and always had a thing for the bobber look, being 200lbs and 6' tall would I be too cramped up on the rebel? It's a long drive either direction for either bike so dont want to waste a trip. If u think I'll fit just fine on the rebel I'll take your advise! Dont mind the leaned forward bobber ergos anyway

[@LucIvanov]

You should go to a Kawasaki/Honda dealer near you and try both out. Then based on what you experienced, make a choice.

[@SprakanaKerum]

Man, those are very good prices. Either of them are good buys

[@-Mr-Fox-]

I tried the Rebel 500 (i'm still too in love with it) for 4hours but i felt hard pain in knee after 2hours. I'm only 5.8... I'll need to try the Vulcan S. since I want something similar but more confortable for long ride.

[@RabidHedgehog]

The Vulcan S would have that forward mount letting your knee take less pressure.

[@naughtydog22]

Love this review. I am looking at getting my first bike and these are 2 out of the 3 that really keep cropping up as the strongest contenders for me. The Suzuki S40 being the third. For the area I am in I need something that can handle sitting in traffic and residential areas well like the Rebel, but also something that can handle 75+ mph for the highway between towns in the rural/farming area I am. As equally at home at the intersection and handling wind off of semi trucks while dodging California leadfoots. So this gives me a fresh perspective on these bikes in that regard. I have to say, if there was a Rebel 600 or 650, Honda would likely dominate the midsize/starter bike market. Hands down.

[@electriclute]

My first bike was the S40 . Very nice looking and low . It was a fantastic bike to learn on . Great for around town and on secondary roads .However it lacked power on highways . It really was straining above 110 kmph . After my first year it felt too small for me and this bike was inadequate if I wanted to do any long distance highway trips . I upgraded to a bigger bike the next season . Honda nc750x

[@danf8047]

I think the biggest problems of these light cruisers are highway speed. with my Vulcan 900 I have no trouble keeping up to my friends' shovelhead and stryker at 120km/h but boy does it not like it, the vibration and high revs...

[@electriclute]

I agree . The S40 rattled your bones at 120 . The single cylinder thumper engine was too weak for speed .

[@electriclute]

The S40 is a great choice . I was sold on the looks and belt drive . Mine had the rust orange tank with blackened chrome and saddlebags . What a gorgeous looking bike . The low seat height and centre of gravity lets you put both feet firmly on the ground and manouver with ease . As a first bike I couldn't have been happier . The only reason i sold it for more HP was i moved and have to travel highways to commute to work . This was the S40's only weakness but frankly it's not designed for highway cruising .

[@skiggy007]

Why is the gas tank on the Vulcan S so much wider compared to the Rebel when the fuel capacity is only about a 1/2 gallon more?

[@RabidHedgehog]

Height. The Rebel's tank is much taller than the Vulcan S. So it helps make up for the lack of width.

[@user-dottory]

first...yamaha volt 950 maked me fall in love with moto...and i knew i could not get the bike..and i was interested in rebel 500...but now i am with vulcan 650s! and i am asian..sorry for bad english..haha

[@nibbertwig]

Thanks for the video guys, these are the 2 bikes I'm looking at for my first bike. I'm on the fence but maybe leaning slightly more towards the Vulcan s. My concern is of the foot positioning at the front, I wonder how easy it is in manoeuvring around city traffic? moving between cars etc. Im based in Australia and city roads over here seem a lot more compact and twisty compared to what I've seen in your videos. (Never been to US so can only judge based off the videos.)

[@sergiuulici3908]

hey there! i am at the same point like you. .for me,, I feel that the new honda rebel 500 is just perfect after all the problems fixed ,like suspension seat comfort or the gear indicator. vulcan s is just too heavy for me 233 kg vs 190 rebel. and i answer at your problem...in the city rebel is 10 times more fun and easy to ride than vulcan s because is very flickable. on highway maybe vulcan s is better, in my case i will only use rebel for small trips like 1-2 hours and only for fun.(for other stuffs i have a car) .if you want to cross australia ,choose vulcan s, if you only want to have some fun from time to time and you are not so tall, choose rebel 2020. both cases , great motorcycles and enough power to reach 160km/h and more. For me , i let my heart to choose ..and it said Honda rebel 500. peace!

[@nibbertwig]

@@sergiuulici3908 Hey man, thanks for your message! I actually ended up buying the Vulcan S and have had it for around 4 days now. I absolutely love it. All of my concerns about handling and weight I got used to very quickly (I think because Im a brand new rider I've got used to it quicker than maybe someone upgrading from a previous bike). I test rode both the rebel and Vulcan s twice each on different days and I agree, the rebel felt very fun, but for me (after some very hard thinking) I felt the Vulcan was better suited for me. You're right though both bikes would be great and are fantastic bikes, I am quite tall and felt comfortable on the Rebel, it felt very easy when it came to parking and moving by foot etc. Take care and enjoy the Honda!

[@michaelbradshaw718]

@@nibbertwig Hey mate, it's good to hear someone based in Australia with a Vulcan S. If you don't mind im gonna shoot you some questions about usimg it in general and in au. How well do you find it goes on our streets and our rather terrible highways haha. Also how well does it work for you as a taller rider, as im 6ft 2 and 100kg. Last question is just any problems cons you've had after owning it for a month. For example i hear bad stuff about vibrations being annoying at highway speeds, lean angles etc. Cheers in advance mate.

[@nibbertwig]

Michael Bradshaw Hey mate, happy to help! For the first month I’ve took the bike out loads (being off work due to COVID) and on many different types of roads and I think it handles brilliant in any situation. I’m in Sydney so highways, twistys, crappy pothole roads are all there. The lean angle was fine even on the twistys and I’ve only scraped pegs once when I deliberately tried to lean as far as I can, I honestly don’t think you’ll have any issues with lean angle for every day riding. I haven’t felt any issues with vibrations at highway speeds (my daily commute is 30km with mostly highway roads and the last few Km is in the cbd). And the bike is very comfortable even at 100km + speed However it can feel a little stiff if you go over a bump or drain cover etc at highway speeds. I have my bike set up to the regular bar and feet positions and for the first few weeks it felt fine as I was getting used to riding bikes, but now after a bit of time I feel like I could get the extended reach positions set up and it might feel better for me (I’ve heard it’s quite expensive to get the positions adjusted though and the regular still suits me fine) but don’t get me wrong it’s not uncomfortable or annoying even with the regular set up. After longer rides 2+ hours though I’d need to change my riding position to avoid cramping up or needing to stretch etc. I absolutely love the Vulcan and I’m so happy with my decision, my friend bought his first bike at the same time as me and he got a ktm 390 and whilst his bike has a lot of accessories on the dashboard like Bluetooth/phone connection/ different riding modes etc which the Vulcan is missing all of that I honestly would still take the Vulcan over that. My only real issue I’ve had with the bike which bothers me is the “positive neutral finder” if you do not do a hard or fast enough gear change when going from first to second it can go into neautral and you end up just loudly revving which is pretty embarrassing, most of it is probably down to me being a new rider but my brother who has rode bikes for a few years sometimes has the same problem when he jumps on my bike. It doesn’t happen a lot mostly when I’m sloppy with changing gears but you might notice it if you have a ride on one. Sorry for the long winded reply mate haha; happy to answer any more questions you might have. I would 100% recommend a Vulcan S to you, you’ll love it.

[@michaelbradshaw718]

@@nibbertwig thanks so much for your thoughts and experiences mate. They were the only problems I kept hearing regularly about it and since my commute would be 35km, mostly highway in QLD, I was after a second opinion. I'll definitely start looking at the Vulcan a lot more now. Thanks again for your reply mate. Be safe out there.

[@Ratchet2]

Nice video. What headsets are you using in this vid? Thanks!

[@RabidHedgehog]

The communications side is a Sena 20S and his audio is a purple panda lav mic to the Sony AS100V and mine is a modified and adapted 20S mic to a Sony pocket recorder.

[@Ratchet2]

@@RabidHedgehog thanks, subscribed!

[@johnnycatR58]

Sat on the Rebel. Seat was uncomfortable within 20 seconds. The seat has real thin padding. Chose S650 and love that bike.

[@A4grayghost]

So I have a 2019 rebel 500. And I customized the crap out of it. It’s super simple to work on if you see my bike next to a stock bike you’ll think there 2 different models And it’s not my first bike. I’ve had several bikes. And this thing is the best riding bike I’ve ever been on. I had rockets and cruisers. Hands down the best bike

[@RabidHedgehog]

I loved that little Rebel and to be honest I need to get another. I sold it and this Vulcan S so my wife could upgrade her ride to her Scout she has now. But another Rebel is on the list to procure.

[@dry509]

What about lean angle on each bike?

[@e4cpltom]

I have a question someone here might be able to answer. I'm a vet with reduced range of motion in my knee, does anybody make a forward control kit for the Rebel ?

[@RabidHedgehog]

There are a few out there that I had to search for on Google but they appear to be Euro based, but it would be easy to ship them here.

[@ZimmyFox]

I sat on the 2020 rebel 500 at IMS and it looks like they fixed 90% of the issues people have with it lol.

[@RabidHedgehog]

Which is what I like about Honda, they listened! I am hoping to ride the updated one soon.

[@ZimmyFox]

@@RabidHedgehog yeah I kinda wanna test ride one now. I just rode the harley street rod and I can believe that after 3 years of people complain about things that were unbearable on that bike that they still aren't fixing them. Good on Honda for actually fixing that stuff.

[@robertsalyers1351]

I have not even watched the video and I would prefer the Kawasaki vulcan 650 on looks and displacement

[@East10th]

What is the of that black helmet

[@youtubesidiot2647]

I was wondering what a better bike is to travel long distances? around 800 miles at a time

[@RabidHedgehog]

It depends on your size and weight. Taller and heavier the Vulcan S due to the ergo fit. If smaller and lighter then the Rebel 500 would do good after a seat transplant.

[@lbonvillain-wm4ds]

what helmet is that with the gold tint?

[@gianpatrickmarzan5041]

The peg position alone makes a huge difference between the two bikes. I own a Vulcan S and the forward positioning pegs does not give you that confidence like it would with a closer peg position like the rebel. Even when the vulcan S is adjusted to the short positioning. Avoiding bumps and such, the pegs being forward you would have to somewhat also pull on the handlebar to prop yourself up a bit vs just using your legs to prop yourself in the rebel. So for new riders, having that sense of control makes all the difference in your confidence level.

[@justincool613]

Do a comparison between the Honda rebel 500 and the Harley Davidson Street 500.

[@RabidHedgehog]

Need to find a Street 500 that I'll be allowed to take out with it

[@davesmith2140]

Could you put a new gauge cluster on the Rebel that had the tech and gear indicator? I am looking for a beginner big and I do like bigger ties. I liked the VanVan except I wish the motor was a little bigger.

[@RabidHedgehog]

There is not a way at this time. I looked up aftermarket and none are that great of quality either. But to be honest, even as a new rider, a gear indicator or tach is not needed as you do learn the machines by the sound and feel, which that becomes important in the long run.

[@tacomafan7488]

I had shadows and kawis before ! Vulcan is deff has smoother ride

[@dustywilson5461]

What's the location of this test drive ? beautiful country out there ... .

[@RabidHedgehog]

This is Broadway in North Edmond/ South Guthrie Oklahoma basically.

[@nicksmowingomokoroa]

I'm definitely a fan of the Vulcan, I dont really like the styling of the Rebel. The tank just looks like it sits too high if you know what I mean...

[@johnnyrapist1416]

m8 i rkn u keep up the work there buddy not bad stuff i rkn ye nice 1 buddy boy

[@RabidHedgehog]

Thank you!

[@comedyfun24]

Have you ridden the 500x? If you have, would you rather commute from Moore to Edmond on a Rebel or a 500x? Thanks

[@RabidHedgehog]

I need to ride a 500X... I really want to do Honda engine family reviews.

[@comedyfun24]

Rabid Hedgehog That is a great idea. I’ll keep an eye out to see if you review the X. Thanks for your response.

[@Tifford1]

I've riden: an old Honda 500(70s), Vulcan 750 and a KLR 650. I'm 6 foot 235 pounds. Which of these two do you think I'll like best? Mostly to be riden in the country. 80% country, 10% city, 10% interstate.

[@RabidHedgehog]

I will say the Vulcan S in that regard. This is due to the fact you can have it tuned to your body with the three positions of each control surface, the bars, the foot controls, and the seating.

[@Tifford1]

@@RabidHedgehog Thank You

[@gilbyseventy5]

It's that "first motorcycle" comment again. Why do these people think every motorcyclist wants the biggest motorcycle out there?

[@RabidHedgehog]

That is not what was being said and by no means. We say first by stating that this bike is a good place to start but it is also a great bike as well for people who have rode for years. I have well over 10 years of two wheeled experience and these two are in my garage. We are just stating that a first time person can approach this bike easily and grow with it.

[@gilbyseventy5]

I get you. Appreciate the reply.

[@daynmitchell7543]

Well I've had a Ninja 300 for 4 months(my first bike) and I already want more power off the line mostly. So I wish I would've bought a bigger bike in the end.

[@frontdeskstaff9359]

Is a 500 - 650 really even close to the biggest bike out there? Most people I know that ride are riding far bigger and faster bikes. As a first time rider who can only afford one bike, I definitely want one big enough to handle freeway speeds so I can actually go places or why bother. I can just ride a bicycle if I want to just cruise around town and I can't afford to buy another bike anytime soon, so anything less than 500 doesn't even seem realistic.

[@poorasslawstudent]

@@frontdeskstaff9359 have you considered the VN 900? My first bike was a shadow 1100 but I liked the VN 900 just as much. I then moved to a vulcan vaquero 1700 which was great for long trips but to be honest, its not that fun especially around town so now I'm back to looking at a smaller funner bike that gives me gas mileage, that fun factor and makes around town and commuting more enjoyable. not looking at the rebel as I still want a bike that can handle the free way and that IMO means a minimum of a 900 v-twin or a 650 sport style engine.

[@BringerOfZZa]

After test riding the Vulcan s, the yamaha bolt, and the rebel 500 all in the same day, I can easily say the Vulcan s is the best, then the rebel. 2 very fun bikes. The yamaha bolt is an absolute snooze fest. I'd been waiting years to ride the bolt, I thought for sure it was the bike for me... but no way, it reminded me of my 2008 suzuki s50 boulevard. Too slow. I could not believe it. I own a Kawasaki z900rs that I'll be trading on a Vulcan s. Love the channel btw 👍

[@RabidHedgehog]

I have attempted to do a review on the Bolt so many times... But I have absolutely nothing to say good about it and hence the reason it has never ended up on my channel. I had the displeasure of riding the Café variety as well and when I as watching the end result I seriously just deleted it because it was about ten minutes of riding and talking about the specs and such and then it became 20 minutes of please oh please get me off this thing I hate my life..... The Vulcan S performance wise is the number 1 for sure. Also if your style is a bit more speed seeking and such it would indeed win. We were trying to go for bang for dollars and to be honest it is very hard to be the little Rebel in that department. Although yes the Vulcan S comes close.

[@BringerOfZZa]

@@RabidHedgehog Yes, I'm not one to complain. I was on a motorcycle after all. But I'm astounded at my experience with the bolt. I longed to ride it and.... nothing. Anyway, I have to correct my statement. The Vulcan s is not the EASY winner. The Rebel is a FANTASTIC bike. Its honestly a toss up. The only way to know is to ride them for yourself!

[@ronystewart3563]

Please tell me, what is speedometer measuring method uses on both motorcycle. Kmph or mph.? That sound is nice for my ear on that speed..

[@RabidHedgehog]

Miles per hour sir.

[@Voltomess]

@@RabidHedgehog they don't have an option to change that?

[@billparker8954]

Even though every review of the Rebel 500 that the rider stated his height, he was over 6 feet, I bought one anyway, because I can flat foot it at 5'6".

[@bravosierraoneairsoft4774]

Can you tell me what gloves you are wearing?

[@RabidHedgehog]

O'neal Mayhem. They are older so I am not sure if they are still on the market in that design.

[@NoName-oj5pl]

My next bike is going to be a Rebel 500

[@greywolf9341]

The rebel should've had a simple no nonsense twin round analogue displays. Practicality over aesthetics.