Reciprocating Dingle Arm Comparison

[@drkevns]

More time loading up, less time swinging. Great video.

[@chadrobinson7234]

And not to pile on the player on the left, but one more criticism: he isn't holding a beverage.

[@seabas22]

Rookie mistake

[@AceItDiscGolf]

@@seabas22 This is more than fair and you know what you will see next ;-)

[@thomaswinzy]

Maybe people should hold a beverage more often to realize how important balance is.

[@thomaswinzy]

I had to hypnotise myself to get my brain to get on the back foot and use the left hip in the correct way. the way he is doing on the left is exactly how it felt before i did it. his problem is that he is not using his first meditersal head on his back foot to que the correct internal rotation. his brain doesnt have the connection from the ground though his glutes so his brain doesnt know whats goin on and cant use the correct mechanics. now that i understand im like a new man. its like ive been scared my whole life because i couldnt do the most important things correct, breathe and walk. now i understand that i can just posture myself with correct diaphragme to allow my psoas to move, then just abuse the gait system for power. i threw 100-140 meter inconsistantly with just my arm before. im going pro next summer I was doing the equivalent of trying to understand how the muscles moves in the finger to learn how to draw... you need to either understand the body and its systems to use it, but preferably you just feel it and have always felt it, like we do when we are kids. i have been a bum gamer for 10 years so my body literally didnt know what was going on. I was so right side dominant that i couldnt even use my left side, i was just stiffened up like i was scared on my entire left psoas area, just using it as a stilt. it went away in t10 seconds. the videos arent lying. people think they are lying because they dont have the problem it fixes. I understood your videos before but only theoretically. I thought I was doing it correct but I truly wasn't, and my brain couldn't compute what I was doing wrong until it let me do it correct. i could watch videos like this and that's where you lost me. I thought I understood because i could obviously see the difference you point out, but i never understood why one was right or wrong. It wasnt until I somehow managed to hypnotise myself into being left footed i truly got what you were showing. Now I can watch any form and truly understand it and replicate it.

[@polecat3067]

What do you mean by collapsed lead hip at 2:08?

[@seabas22]

Note the giant crease in John's shorts in the lead hip, so his pelvis/upper body is folding over/into the hip. My lead hip is extended/standing up so there is zero crease in my shorts.

[@AceItDiscGolf]

​@@seabas22I am John and I approve this message 😂

[@polecat3067]

@@seabas22 Wow, you should make a video solely on that. I've been thinking that you are supposed to collapse the lead hip this whole time

[@seabas22]

@@polecat3067 One Leg Drill, Crush the Can! Note the front leg extending to swing from 7min on. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3nWpH2HeZaliNEm

[@AceItDiscGolf]

@@polecat3067 I (obviously) had that misunderstanding at one point too and it has been incredibly hard to fix. You ideally want to "stand up" or "post up" on that leg more like a baseball batter or golfer. As someone with knee issues, it's also actually better for the knee and hip to resist collapse and "post up," whereas my body tends to shy away trying to protect the knee, making everything worse. One leg drill was/is still one of the best antidotes isolating it.

[@AceItDiscGolf]

😊

[@bbd1254]

Is there context to this video? I’m just having a little bit of a hard time trying to decide what I should take from it?

[@AceItDiscGolf]

@@bbd1254 I'll weigh in as the subject of the video and my coach can overrule me if needed 🙂 I think when he posts these side-by-sides, the best thing to do is use them as lessons for working on your own drills and balance. IMHO these "dingle arm " drills are a uniquely awesome way to get loose and feel momentum and wheel your body around. For me, they have always been the fastest way to loosen up and work on big problems in posture and balance. As a long-time weightlifter with some knee issues, I have many of those. In this particular one, I have always had trouble getting my body into the right athletic braced tilt/balance as I land and throw, and I've always had trouble getting my weight from foot to foot properly and "posting up" balanced on the front hip more like a golfer or baseball batter. In this particular drill, seabas is having me work on letting the rear side "kick through", but here you see me having trouble rotating too much through the front hip or and letting it collapse too much, which is related to how I balance and shift my weight off the rear foot. If I cannot fix these issues my form will always be compensating for them. If these moves ever look silly to people, I stand by their usefulness in terms of maximizing your form efficiency. Even when I'm not getting them right, my throws always get lower effort and more replicable after I spend time working them out. As one of the slower learners I've seen in disc golf, my repeatable distance has continued to grow sticking it out with seabas. Last public plug: IMHO, seabas still remains the one public coach with the best grasp on how balance and posture interact in terms of optimizing mechanics. I'm very, very fortunate he hasn't given up on me yet and that I've developed the patience to grind through his lessons (and serve as the occasional public example of being on the struggle bus!).