Record BOTH Video & Audio to SSD with USB-C iPhones

[@bigwhitedog1991]

Apple adding usb is a true game changer - great vid thanks!

[@hendrikwiekenberg]

The whole setup reminds me of the scenes from the movie "The Naked Gun", where Nordberg keeps upgrading his pistol on the rooftop with additional elements and ends up sitting on an anti-aircraft gun. 😂😂

[@ClarksvilleTN]

For my iPhone 15 I bought a Trs to usb-C from hollyland on Amazon and it works great. No need for the dongle like I had on my older iPhone that had lightning connection.

[@mayitoalvarado1271]

That was something I was waiting for a set up like that with a iPhone, man you are the one so far who has done it thank you, I wish to give you more than one like, very good job .

[@iphoneographers]

Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching.

[@sloanNYC]

Great stuff. I'm really hoping someone comes out with a device to make this all simpler. I believe you can also charge your phone with your bigger USB hub by plugging in a power bank to the USB-C port with the lightning bolt on it....

[@dougscott188]

Thank you! Now some needs to make a case that has the ports from the dongle

[@ThatCho]

Thank you for this. I've been seeing all the hype over SSDs being used with iphones, but nothing about how to use this in conjunction with a microphone which is super crucial.

[@DaveKnowlesFilmmaker]

You have answered so many questions people seem to be asking. Thanks.

[@warrensteele5644]

I love it! Please lmk when you clean up that set up at the end. Seems like a wonderful solution for an iPhone rig

[@saraaikalyhenriquessardinh211]

You brought so many solutions in one video. Thank you!

[@lbrtvlldr]

Some USB-C to headphone jack adapters, like the one you used in this video, only allow mono audio recording. Some work with stereo. You can also buy a TRS to USB-C cable. Comica sells one that works.

[@BarryStephenson-b2q]

We need a cage or grip that has 3 or 4 usb-c ports built into it.

[@pixel325]

The Advanced hub + mic and ssd and then a Beast Grip and an anamorphic lens and i'd be ready to go shot a movie! :) great video thanks!

[@socc3r7k1ng]

I've tried using my rode microphones into a USB C mic adapter with TRS to TRRS adapter and the audio sounds like garbage. I may need to try this Rode adapter.

[@Thereelzain]

If you have time, can you do a video about your lenses and set up that you’d use for iPhone 15 pro max film making. I’d like to see how you use it if possible.

[@iphoneographers]

Yes, that’s on my to do list. Waiting to get a little bit more new gear to make it all work.

[@Thereelzain]

@@iphoneographers thank you. Also, would this work on a gimbal? Or would this be too heavy? I know on some of your BTS you were using a gimbal for some shots on the older phones w/ wireless external monitoring

[@iphoneographers]

Yes, it could, you would just need to use a heavier duty gimbal like the Crane M3. And then, if you wanted to attach a monitor, you would need to use an arm and I would suggest a small 4” or so monitor.

[@Thereelzain]

@@iphoneographers thank you, I was thinking of using an iPad as like a handheld wireless monitor

[@uldmedia]

Great - now all we need is a manufacturer to offer a handle for the iPhone 15 / 15 Pro with a built-in USB hub, battery and the ability to install an internal nvme SSD.

[@pdcorlis]

I’m a fan of the Moment MagSafe Cage. More attachment points than you can shake a stick at and the MagSafe phone attachment future proofs the cage. Rig it up any way you want and you’re good to go!

[@justinmichaelfilms]

I have a video coming out with exactly this. It eliminates all those goofy wires and dongles hanging off the phone. The only hold up im having, is i cant seem to get the external audio to record stereo. Seems like with the blackmagic app, it only records mono. You can see in this video too, hes only in mono.

[@TechandFood]

11 months later and your wish came true. Small rig now have a all in one kit that does just that

[@uldmedia]

@@TechandFood Hast du einen Link? Auf der Smallrig Seite kann ich das Teil nicht finden. Am ehesten in die Richtung geht nach das Tilta Khronos System - aber auch da sind mir noch etwas zu viel Kabel nötig.

[@flipout50]

Will the Rode audio device allow for real time monitoring with headphones while recording? thanks.

[@JimEdds]

you can also use a Sabrent NVMe drive but you need external power to push it. The benefit of that is faster speed when you eventually transfer files to your main computer or iPad Pro for editing. The small Belkin 4 into 1 port USB-C hub has a port for external power like a small power bank. Into the USB-C hub you can run a USB-c DJI wireless mic or equalvilent. Lots of possibilities now that we have a USB-C iPhone. Thanks for the audio tips with the Black Magic Cam app. I learned some things.

[@iphoneographers]

That Belkin is nice too and I like that it has multiple USB-C ports. Thanks for watching!

[@cinemoff]

@@iphoneographersdoes rode ai-micro works with Belkin 4-port usb-c hub?

[@cinemoff]

does rode ai-micro works with Belkin 4-port usb-c hub?

[@shinlxb]

Do you have a connection plan for a lighting port phone that can output both video and audio, as well as charge

[@rogeriogomesosorio4755]

Hello. First of all, thank you for replying to my question with this video. To became perfect, some manufacturer has to create a case that can have the ssd and a rode wireless go attached and that fits in a pocket

[@SalsaBailaProductions]

Apple should come up with an all in one solution

[@TomQsTechTips]

Great video. I had seen another video out there where a guy said you couldn't do all 3 things at once: HDMI out, dual channel audio in, AND record externally. So now I'm encouraged and wanting a 15 Pro again. Thanks for the demonstration. QUESTION: Have you explored Blackmagic Camera app's 4 Channel Audio Option?

[@iphoneographers]

I have not used the four channel output, yet, not something I would do very often. But interesting nonetheless. Planning more blackmagic app videos in the future.

[@AllThingsFilm1]

This is a huge help with my filming with my iPhone 15 Pro. I used your link to get the advanced USB-C hub which comes with the HDMI out port. This is great for when I'm filming myself and I can hook up a monitor to see what I'm filming. Thanks so much for putting this together.

[@iphoneographers]

Glad you found it helpful. Some pretty cool stuff out now for sure. Thanks for watching!

[@cluek9780]

Could/would list your own findings? I’m making a hybrid

[@lukaszbieniek88]

I was looking for a guide like this, thanks 👍👍👍

[@2365Films]

Damn good informative video covering the important basics. Thank you and well done, Sir!

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks!

[@sh0tiphone]

Could you do a review video of anamorphic lens on 5x telelens?

[@iphoneographers]

Yep! 👍🏻

[@sevrin1965]

Hey Blake, great video as always, really like that Advanced USB hub set-up, did you figure out a way to neatly incorporate it into your rig in the end?

[@iphoneographers]

Not really. :) Since I switch cages a lot I’m just going DIY and rigging it as needed. But I have used some Bongo ties to secure stuff… amzn.to/43wxonq - also still debating using some Velcro maybe on the side of the cage or on the SSD holder… amzn.to/3TMx8xo. But still a work in progress!

[@AmantesdoAquarismo]

The app is not recognizing my external SSD, do you know what it could be? The native iPhone app recognizes and records on it. It's funny that when the SSD was in Windows format, the app identified it but didn't record it. Now that I formatted it for Mac, it no longer identifies it.

[@iphoneographers]

Is it EXFAT?

[@AmantesdoAquarismo]

@@iphoneographers After I formatted it to EXFAT it still wasn't showing up. I uninstalled the app, installed it again and it started to appear! But basically when I try to record, it records a little and says that the SSD was 'removed' or there is some problem that in the final seconds, it loses a lot of frames. I tested the SSD with the cable and it is recording at 900 mbps, it shouldn't be losing frames, right? I think I'll have to change the SSD to see if it's not the problem. How fast is your cable?

[@iphoneographers]

@AmantesdoAquarismo You need USB 3 speed or higher. Sounds like it may be a bad SSD? Not sure. But I’ve had good luck with the Samsung T7.

[@andrewkatz3845]

Cool setup. Do you know of a hub which will will work with an iPhone 15 Pro Max and output video of USB-C to a USB-C video monitor? I have a few USB-C hubs, none of them will allow video output through the USB-C ports (the monitor works fine if I plug it into the phone directly).

[@iphoneographers]

I haven’t tried that as I’ve only used HDMI output which works well. The one thing to check is that you’re using a data transfer port and not a charging port. You could also try an HDMI to USB-C adapter… amzn.to/4eXcWSb

[@tradingcafe_fr]

I've got the 15 Pro and I've seen that when I finish recording, depending on the size of the video it take more or less time to appear on the SD Card. I think that when the external storage isn't fast enough the shot is buffered and then sent to the external storage. Maybe it's not happening when it's a SSD with fast writing, but might be wrong.

[@iphoneographers]

Have seen that too - and I think that’s the case that it’s buffering as it goes to the card. This is good though as it allows slower cards to work. But definitely something to keep an eye on and make sure the files don’t have dropped frames.

[@TheFandangovideoguy]

Hi there- great video...I just got a 15pro max...and I have a Rode Videomicro I would like to use with it for audio. I don't need wireless. I guess ALL I would need is a mini jack to USB-C adapter for it to work with the iphone? Previously this mic would connect to my Canon 90D and draw power from the camera. Will it draw power from the iphone now? I would prefer NOT to deal with adapters etc...but could you recommend a shotgun mic that already has a USB-C connector? Similar in size to the videomicro or the Deity and under $100. No need to spend more in my case. what USB-C compact mini shot gun would you recommend? Something simple...wired is fine-just plug and play...thanks

[@iphoneographers]

I need to do more testing, but you can just use a 3.5mm to USB-C adapter for most mics. amzn.to/46lOnII I’m not familiar with any usb-c small shotgun ones, but there are lav mics like that.

[@TheFandangovideoguy]

thanks so much....I found a small shot gun mic - The comica VM10 PRO Camera Microphone Dual-Mode USB Shotgun Microphone and I will give it a try. I don't expect the best audio quality but better and cleaner than the iphone's built in audio. @@iphoneographers

[@LouisLuzuka]

Would you say this is enough to upgrade my 12 pro max 😊

[@bazlur-Vancouver]

if you have extra money yes or if you are making money using phone video, photo, etc. I use Samsung s22 and Filmic Pro and the video is so clear (use a gimbal). for iPhone 15 pro or Promax don't need much Gimbol to stabilize your video. I have GoPro 11 and very nice, but I will buy a GoPro, and return the GoPro 11 to Costco. I bought the 11, and after 9 days the GoPro 12 came in the market.

[@LouisLuzuka]

@@bazlur-Vancouver I like your attitude I’m not making money but I’d love to in the future, as well as I have a contract renewal so I was between the s23 the pixel 8 or the 15 pro max and they all are great but the pixel has the promotion right now with the free watch. I definitely love using the smooth 5s gimbal for stabilization though but I was also looking at the go pro but then again I’m not sure anymore what to do what do you think

[@iphoneographers]

Subjective opinion. :) The 12PM is very solid, but the 15PM is considerably better now as it relates to professional quality video with Apple log and SSD recording. So it really just depends on what you’re shooting. If you’re due for an upgrade then 100% yes.

[@philippbehrens5121]

One question: do you know how to use or to set up „record audio as 4 channels“? Regards

[@julianocelentano]

This was super helpful!! Thanks so much!

[@MR-AK]

why is it showing only one channel on your audio signal??

[@gabricks1224]

What about a wireless mic? Would it work with the 15 gens?

[@iphoneographers]

Sure. Just need a USB-C adapter.

[@wawatkurniawan9778]

you can use ACASIS USB 3.0 Hub Type C HDMI 4K 30Hz Docking Station with 100W PD for all device you need to connect phone, that hub is small like small rode ai anda can connect to hdmi monitor too with one hub

[@cipilicacip]

I have Acasis hub 10in1. Everything works properly until you cross 5 min recording via sdxc card or 2 half min via usb-c external ssd and randomly drop via m2 ssd and you cannot connect anymore until you connect to laptop or macbook. It was like a gold for me, but I will turn back to a usb-c splitter because I want to use extern ssd & mic too

[@cipilicacip]

I have Acasis hub 10in1. Everything works properly until you cross 5 min recording via sdxc card or 2 half min via usb-c external ssd and randomly drop via m2 ssd and you cannot connect anymore until you connect it to laptop or macbook. It was like a gold for me, but I will turn back to a usb-c splitter because I want to use extern ssd & mic too

[@Marv4MoBeats]

Is there a lightning hub adapter like the advanced hub you have. I'm still using my 14 pro max, and wanting to connect an monitor, ssd, and mic. Please help thx 🙏🏽

[@iphoneographers]

With the 14 you can’t record out to an SSD. You can go out to the AI Micro for sound or send an HDMI signal to a monitor, but it’s more limiting due to the connection… amzn.to/3NY77rJ

[@Ddsdddxxd]

5:26 just use samsung evo plus micro sd + c type sdcard reader

[@rudyonthego]

Why doesn't my screen on the app show USB-C to 3.5 headphone jack adapter when I plug in my Rode mic exactly like you show it, but instead it shows Headset Microphone?

[@xSUPERoMANx]

How do you connect an S5iix via wifi and use the tether app? My Dilemma is that i need to use the tether app on my PC when i record talking head videos. But i would also like to record to an SSD which uses the usb c port. So if i can connect to the PC (windows) via wifi and use the tether app that would solve that problem. But not even panasonic is sure about how to do this ( i called them) or if it is even possible. I would imagine that if you can connect the GH5 2 via wifi you can do the s52x as well. Any thoughts?

[@thomasfinch]

Great vid! Thanks for answering the question I came here for 🙂

[@rawiyahsphere]

I have always have had to use Rode's App "Rode Central" in conjunction with my Rode Micro and Rode Mics, while going Facebook Live or Filmic Pro. If I don't the audio will be low.

[@iphoneographers]

Interesting. I’ve never used that and never had any issues. Though I’ve never done Facebook live, but I’ve used it with FiLMiC Pro extensively.

[@rawiyahsphere]

@@iphoneographers Yes! The audio will be low if Rode Central stays open in the background and idle for a while. Once and a while if I go directly from RC to FB Live the audio will be low. But the chances of low audio increase more if RC is idle for a while. I ALWAYS go directly from RC to FC Live or any film App for that matter.

[@jackderose6575]

Does the AI Micro allow for audio passthrough so the director can hear what's being recorded?

[@iphoneographers]

Yes to my knowledge you’re hearing the recording from the device.

[@jackderose6575]

@@iphoneographers Thank you for the reply. Just covering all of my bases here. This is live (real time) right?

[@sarerusoldone]

this also works for the iphone 15 btw, not just the pro ☝

[@muhammadsabirkhilji5088]

Seems better options

[@zergwave]

Please tell me about the tripod and ball head.

[@iphoneographers]

Believe there’s a link in the description, it’s from smallrig and it’s really great.

[@zergwave]

@@iphoneographers I've clicked on all the links and there's no information link for those little tripods and ballheads at the start of the video??

[@iphoneographers]

@zergwave Oh ok, we’ll take a look. Is it this one you’re looking for? amzn.to/3PZFkqY

[@zergwave]

@@iphoneographers Oh right. That's it. The link is not in the description. Thanks for the information

[@JarekPawlak]

Hi. How fast full setup drain phone battery?

[@iphoneographers]

I haven’t tested that yet, but the SSD does drain it faster - however, the 15PM battery so far has been really good.

[@nickangellondon]

Anyone figured out how to monitor audio as well? Ideally with Bluetooth?

[@floatingtrashbags4978]

What you have to be careful when using the hub with a microphone and sSD. The audio will pick up robotic signals whenever the SSD is reading or writing. I'm trying to find a fix.

[@GlennTaubenfeld]

Planning to do a shoot with SSD and microphone as well. How bad is the audio? Let me know if you found a workaround for it

[@iphoneographers]

Interesting. Haven’t noticed that, but will definitely look (or listen) for it now. Thx

[@floatingtrashbags4978]

I have a T7 if that helps . It could depend on the ssd but I would definitely look out for it.

[@floatingtrashbags4978]

@@iphoneographersits an easy fix make sure it’s a high quality usb to headphone adapter.

[@mmehdibououda9458]

Can this work with a Lightning connector on iPhone 14 for example or does the iPhone have to have USB-C from iPhone 15 onwards? Because with an adaptator type lightning it would be ok ? No ? THANKS

[@iphoneographers]

You can hook up a monitor and the audio stuff via Lightning, and you can read an SSD with an adapter, but you can’t record to an SSD. Have to have a 15 Pro series or later phone with USB-C.

[@mmehdibououda9458]

@@iphoneographers thanks, and if I have an adaptator from lightning to usb c ?

[@cuongdn1430]

When I want replay my video I just record, I have to take off usb type c. Its inconvinience. Help me!

[@ygaunai9512]

USB C HUB for iPad Pro 9-in-1 Adapter is work for iphone 14 pro ?

[@iphoneographers]

Can’t say I’ve tried that, but maybe with a Lightning adapter and then for some accessories, but not SSD recording. That’s only on the 15 Pro.

[@jayeye89]

What camera app are you using ?

[@iphoneographers]

Mainly Blackmagic Camera app… kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXynl4Wph7OdpNUsi=6MTpwyFVK6vf1qjQ

[@APTrax]

Is it possible to use USB 2.0 speed for external recording? Highest I will do is ProRes Log in 4K30. Thanks in advance!

[@iphoneographers]

You mean via Lightning? If so, no you can’t do that.

[@APTrax]

@@iphoneographers No, I mean USB C. I want to buy a hub, like you suggested, with a 3.5mm jack, USB C, for charging and a USB A 2.0 port.

[@iphoneographers]

Ok sure, the Advanced hub I demo will do that. But it’s USB 3 speed (with USB A and C). Link for it in the video description.

[@takanocaca]

Can this record a stereo signal if I use something like Focusrite 2 channel interface?

[@iphoneographers]

You can record separate mono channels or split track using that or the AI Micro… kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5qQfJSZe8utiJosi=x5oXxyDDV5g3C17p

[@takanocaca]

@@iphoneographers I was hoping to use an audio interface for better mic pres but this will work! Thank you!

[@cyrilcaine]

Does it work if you plug directly the mini jack of the mic in the Hub usb c ?

[@iphoneographers]

Yes, depending on the hub if it has an analog port.

[@Robertino.Official]

I cant find my ex. SSD when looking at files?

[@ChrisVirgilio]

Make sure you have it formatted in exFAT before connecting. Or APFS.

[@Michael-uh5xz]

Hi BlackMagic on iPhone 15 pro, can I shoot in 1080p H264 in the same time storing in the SSD drive ? because on iPhone 15 pro apps It is limited to Pro Res.

[@heythatsprettygood6492]

Yes you can do h264,h265 or several options for ProRes to an ssd

[@paoloscarpato5551]

I’ve connected a Rode mic to the white triple port adaptor. The SSD works only when alone, after connecting also the mic my IPhone 15 doesn’t see the SSD. What can I do?

[@iphoneographers]

If you’re connecting the Rode mic via analog that won’t affect the USB ports, so that would be odd and it might be bad. If it’s all USB ports, then guessing you only have one data transfer port that’s working or the other are for charging only.

[@heroicvision]

Great stuff. Too bad it all couldn't just go back to the old Android route or kind of like Sony Xperia phones. Having an internal SD card slot and a headphone jack. Pop in a 1TB sd card and plug a mic into the headphone jack. Just pure simplicity.

[@iphoneographers]

Sounds almost like a traditional camera. :)

[@rawiyahsphere]

I have an iPhone 13 Pro Max with T-Mobile service I use for phone, web surfing, content and live streaming. I just bought an iPhone 15 Pro Max for strictly content. Imagine if Apple came out with a solid chunky Content/Cinematic/Film/Video version of an iPhone with distinct A/V input/output ports, mounting points and lens mounts, etc.? I would have bought it. It would be a niche machine.

[@kablah19]

But can this setup record 24bit audio? Not just 16bit?

[@iphoneographers]

Sure, just depends on what app you’re using.

[@robborr5096]

What am I doing wrong? I tried using an apple hub adapter on the iphone 15 pro max so that I could link a USB Hub that has an as card. However, it says that the phone can not power it?

[@iphoneographers]

Sounds like that particular hub pulls too much wattage.

[@iphoneographers]

Sounds like that particular hub pulls too much wattage?

[@SoaringFaithProductions]

I get dropped frames when I have my Samsung T7 connected with that exact hub and the Rodes mic. But when I plug the SSD card on it’s own it doesn’t drop any frames. Anyone know why this is?

[@RUWAIE]

When you reach a “rig” level and external mic as well as recording log to an external SSD …etc , why not use a real camera like Blackmagic pocket?

[@iphoneographers]

Sure. I use one a lot. But having this as an option or B camera is great. Also too you can’t shoot 4K 60 Apple Log without going to an SSD with the native app.

[@iamyourfuture808]

… if Heath Robinson designed I phone rigs 😵‍💫

[@steveclarke94]

I have an iPhone 12 pro max and I shoot in the Filmic Pro app with 10 Bit log. I noticed that when I add the footages in premier pro, the videos are lagging really bad even after rendering the videos. Do you think that it’s my laptop that cannot perform the tasks that I am asking it to do or is there something wrong that I am doing. Your advice would be great, thank you.

[@iphoneographers]

Premiere doesn’t handle the VFR footage from phones very well, especially on older machines. But rendering should solve that, though make sure you choose to render to ProRes 422 or similar- not HEVC as that really taxes a system. The other options are to do a proxy workflow or transcode the iPhone shots to ProRes.

[@steveclarke94]

@@iphoneographers I know how to render a sequence or a video when it on the timeline, but how do you render a video from HEVC to Pro Res? I tried looking for videos on youtube and I can't seem to find any that shows how to do so.

[@iphoneographers]

The best way is to transcode it before you use your editing app, so use Adobe Media Encoder for example or Compressor.

[@steveclarke94]

@@iphoneographers Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely try what u said. I am a big fan of your LUTS btw. Purchased some couple months ago

[@iphoneographers]

Awesome, thanks!

[@dispophoto]

one issue i have is when i have the SSD plugged into the hub, the battery doesn't charge the phone. i also trued it with a regular y-splut usb-c cable and it still doesn't charge the phone. is there any way to overcome this and have it charge the phone at the same time? I tried to put a magsafe power charger on the back, but after a bit the phone got too hot and i got a "system pressure high" warning & it stops recording.

[@iphoneographers]

Are you using an “Advanced“ style hub like I showed? The pass-through for charging should work if so. But remember, some ports are for charging and some are for data transfer, but they’re not the same. And yeah, MagSafe can get hot but also so can regular charging, especially if you’re shooting 4K and higher frame rate or in log. The phone definitely heats up.

[@dispophoto]

@@iphoneographers i used the Belkin fast multi-port usb-c hub from your gear list. it seems i should be using the advanced one that you suggested. I just ordered it so will try it out. Thanks!

[@iphoneographers]

@dispophoto Ok, let me know if it works for you.

[@cluek9780]

Very important to stress: the Apple cables are “2” NOT USB 3 data transfer. Was concerned about data to SSD before you introduced the hubs. While you’ve shown very affordable solutions(!), its time to find a rig- or print a container.

[@iphoneographers]

The Pro models are definitely USB 3 speed.

[@cluek9780]

@@iphoneographersbut the supplied cables are not- test them and see!

[@cluek9780]

Buuut how are you *monitoring audio?

[@stereothrilla8374]

All of that to shoot high quality pictures and those lenses are filthy😂😂😂

[@iphoneographers]

High quality pictures 👍🏻

[@LouisLuzuka]

😮