Red Bull Flying too Dangerous?

Flying commercial is the safest flying people will ever do, the Red Bull team is pushing things to the limit... is what they do unsafe??
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[@DonFahquidmi]

One of my flight instructors tried to teach me that if I ever had to do a go around that I would lose face and bring discredit to my reputation as a pilot. Once I had to land in incredibly difficult circumstances and did not one but two go arounds. When I got the plane safely on the ground I was visibly shaken. Several pilots who were watching me trying to land actually congratulated me on my landing. Don't ever let your flight instructor tell you that you will "lose face" because of a go around!

[@JJSmith1100]

I think you will loose much more face if you crash instead of doing a go around.

[@DonFahquidmi]

@@JJSmith1100 Yeah! Literally, not just figuratively 😂

[@pbp6741]

That flight instructor has a tiny ego issue, and now a credibility problem as well.

[@canerguener8664]

An unknown aspect of instructors

[@DonFahquidmi]

@@pbp6741 It wasn't a "tiny" ego problem! It was massive! Another of his toxic teachings was "Always hit the numbers" since I have been learning from this channel I have learned why this is not a good idea.

[@Cre8tvMG]

In the 1980s my sister lived on a cattle ranch in Australia. She came back with a story from one of her friends. He was a bush pilot making deliveries to ranches hundreds of miles apart. Tools, medical supplies, payroll, people. One day he got a call from a new ranch to deliver some machinery parts. When he arrive he saw the windsock on the edge of a fenced off area near the house. The fence keeps the animals out. It looked small to him, but he said (as every Aussie would) "If anyone else can do it, I can do it!" So he came in low and slow on the diagonal, barely cleared the fence, bounced hard and skidded to a stop just short of the far fence. The rancher came out and told him, "That was some pretty flying. I've never had anyone land a plane on me helipad before."

[@abnunga]

How'd he do on the takeoff? :D

[@The_ZeroLine]

Lmao

[@jsbrads1]

@@abnunga lots of cubs can takeoff in very short areas.

[@GeorgeValkov]

You made my day!

[@maryeckel9682]

😅😅😅

[@laner.845]

Kelsey's utter modesty and cheeky one-liners are why he's one of the best real pilots on YT. "A place for me to go nappy when I get tired." Never stop being you.

[@Puchacz81]

Yeah that was really funny :)

[@Sidowse]

Dude, even when you're tired, you should be able to make it to the toilet.

[@gg79139]

DONT TOUCH THE SNACKS OR PEANUT BUTTER/JELLY SAMMICH! Snickers needs you as a rep! Hope I make your acquaintance someday

[@fred420]

I'll never forget having to do a go around at ATL. Plane in front didn't clear the runway after we touched down. I was in a 787, man when the pilot hit those throttles you could feel that power like nothing else... It was exhilarating how hard it pushed you back and the angle we took back off was amazing!!!! Alot of people thought they were gonna die but not me, better than any roller coaster I've ever been on!

[@snoopsnet8150]

Watching the testing flights of 747's is INSANE. Those planes have a crazy amount of thrust and can do significantly more than you might think 😁

[@murphylhunn]

Attaboy fred420

[@selseyonetwenty4631]

same here on a 747 descending into vancouver in fog so thick i could barely see the wingtips. I have no idea how close to the ground we got but at some point the pilot decided enough was enough and as you say, the punch in the back from the engines was something else. I am a nervous passenger but I get great reassurance when I feel that thrust. The captain then came on and said we would be going on to Seattle which was fine with me, that's where I was going anyway but a lot of the passengers were facing a 200 mile bus trip back to Canada!

[@stevej726]

Pilot tried to wait out a storm once and literally flew us in giant circles around the airport for 30 minutes. It was beyond wild. He eventually said they were running low on fuel and took us to an entirely different airport lol.

[@johnpatrick1588]

Drinking Red Bull is dangerous.

[@CramcrumBrewbringer]

But oh so good

[@aidanjames8611]

Correct! *Takes another sip*

[@uriahstivers8125]

Asking an airline pilot if he can do this type of flying is like asking a trucker if he could race a rally car. He could probably do it, but not like the professionals that train for that particular style of flying Wow, this comment blew up. Thanks for 1.3k likes!

[@VibingBlueViper]

Yeah fr

[@brandonlaird6876]

"I'm a programmer" "Cool! Let's get you to NASA!" 😳 "I... I make websites..."

[@nationalskyline]

Great analogy.

[@NickTaylorRickPowers]

He probably can control a rally car But at what speeds on what roads for how long would be interesting

[@MikeP01111]

@@brandonlaird6876depends on the specific thing you do at coding websites but anyone who has a degree in coding should know how to code stuff for NASA.

[@LilYeshua]

Mike Patey designed a carbon fiber keel on that plane to absorb an impact to keep the plane's tail section intact just in case the fuselage struck the edge of the landing pad structure.

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@seanmorrissey3103]

Very wise, but if I were making that landing, I would remember that if Man can make it, Man can break it.

[@LilYeshua]

@@seanmorrissey3103 Mike did plan and prepare for almost any contingency though.

[@billclisham8668]

Watching the build of that plane and all the hours of prep work on Mike Patey's channel was awe inspiring.

[@MikeInExile]

@@seanmorrissey3103 My uncle used to say, "If a man made it, a man can fix it." And then not to be outdone, my mom used to say, "If you made the mess, you clean up the mess."

[@tobiasagdrupdrager5583]

Your ending of the video reminded me of a joke a read af few months ago about an 747 pilot and a f-16 pilot showing off to each other. The joke goes like this. A 747 is flying on route, when a f-16 pulls up along side. He contacts the airliner on the radio and decides he wants to show off. He ask the pilots of the 747 if they want to see something cool, to which the pilots answer yes. He then proceed roll his airplane inverted before diving very low and then shoots up again past the pilots. After his little acrobatic maneuver he contacts the pilots if they liked the show. The captain of the 747 then says "Yes, that was very cool but watch this". The fighter pilot eager to see the captain move the large plane waits eagerly, but nothing happens. After 15 minutes the captain comes back on the radio and the fighter pilot asks why he didn't do anything. The captain the responds, "I just got up stretched my legs and went to the bathroom, then I had a cup of coffee on my way back, but cool stunts you did earlier. "

[@rdmgwinn]

Similar story MANY years earlier. EC121 vs F104. Still a good "story".

[@psxtuneservice]

The handling when you need to pee is for sure cooler in the 747

[@vbscript2]

haha, yeah, there are many versions of this joke, but it's a good one nonetheless. I've also heard it with B-52 vs. fighters. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it actually happened a time or two with bombers and fighters. Another amusing one I remember reading was a B-52 pilot declaring an emergency and returning to and after an engine failure. After which call an F-16 pilot on frequency pipes up and says, "Oh no! Not the dreaded 7-engine landing!"

[@certaindeath7776]

my cousin went from eurofighter pilot to airbus pilot. he basically told the same story.

[@falxonPSN]

​​@@vbscript2losing an engine on a B-52 is definitely not in the same stress category as losing an engine on an F-16!

[@luiskp7173]

I used to fly a lot in airliners as a kid in the 80s, 90s and early 00s. Nowadays I don’t fly as much. I’ve experienced a variety of turbulence, rocky landings but never a go-around. Call me crazy, but that is something I look forward to experience as a passenger. With your info on how stable approaches are a must now, maybe they,ll become more common.

[@MoiraOBrien]

Having watched the Mike Patey videos both of the build of the aeroplane used for the landing on the heli pad, the preparation/practice landings (on the ground), plus the precautions taken on the day (they abandoned the first day due to the winds being too high), I know that the risks were very well managed. It was still an amazing feat.

[@ronwatkins5775]

While in the AirForce, I watched an A-10 with the original test pilot "Col Thompson" fly through a tab-V hanger in england as part of a demonstration flight back in the 70's.

He must've been Tex Johnston's cousin.

[@Wild_Bill57]

Also, Mike Patey is an incredible engineer, too. He did a series about building that plane and all the modifications and reasonings for the design changes. Quite interesting and if I dare say fascinating. Mike’s attitude toward taking a risk is to cover all likely senecios and even ones most of use wouldn’t imagine.

[@rayr1642]

Came on here to say exactly this. Mike Patey exclusively designs bush planes and light aircraft and is uniquely suited to addressing this particular challenge. That aside, that pilot probably has a wheelbarrow to carry his balls around in.

[@maryeckel9682]

"senecios" has to be the most random autocorrect I've seen lately. Are you a gardener?

[@patheddles4004]

Mike Patey is very much an engineer's engineer - I love his work.

[@et5333]

The nap nook is an important feature to consider. I'd like to see the Redbull guys do this in a 747!😂 Nice job, my Sunday morning is complete now, thank you!

[@Boodieman72]

No snacks either :)

[@juliankremer1900]

And an engine on fire.

[@YQRAviation]

And Half Of The Wing Missing

[@mountainflyhigh]

While playing Candy Crush on his cell-phone.

[@xero4479]

With a goat in the captain's chair

[@ibbylancaster8981]

Mike Patey was involved with the reengineering and modifications of the plane as well as in charge of the ground planning. There was a huge amount of testing before it was ever attempted. Finally, the pilot is also a Red Bull air racer. Watch the Mike Patey video about it. Dude is awesome.

[@THETuerre]

An additional factor in shooting the tunnel is wind, or the lack thereof. The plane is flying through what is in essence ideal completely static air

[@pfield39]

I think Paul and Steve actually did the hangar fly through 11 times for the cameras. They are both renowned for their smooth accurate flying, thankfully.

[@brianengler6965]

Paul Bohnomme, one of the barn fliers, is a commercial airline pilot for BA. I think he actually flew 747s. He is also a multiple Red Bull Air Race champion.

[@ukar69]

He doesn’t live far from me. Seen him town a couple of times.

[@mikes8928]

I think the other guy in that clip might be Steve Jones, who was also in the RBAR and possibly also flew for BA.

[@BillSmith-rx9rm]

What I noticed is that the tail dragger touched down EXACTLY on the edge of the platform. Had it come down even a smidgen earlier, the tail dragger could have been ripped off and possibly the entire tail section, or at least bent severely out of shape. That also likely would have put the airplane out of control and could have fallen off the building. And without a working tail, he wouldn't be able to recover.

[@Skinflaps_Meatslapper]

It's called a tailwheel, not a taildragger. The structure holding the tailwheel on is a lot stronger than the leaf spring and yoke. All that would've happened is that he'd lose his tailwheel and revert to a taildragger. Happens often when bush flying, no big deal. You can hold the tail off the ground until you're mostly stopped and let it gently down without any damage.

[@davegrundgeiger9063]

I'd be curious to hear about whatever "roof effect" and "wall effect" there are when going through a tunnel, analogous to ground effect. And also curious to hear if the team simulated these things in a simulator during their preparation.

[@kelly2631]

I'm only an engineering student, but I can try and offer what little expertise I do have lol: Ground effect mainly occurs due to the downwash from the wing "reflecting" off the ground as the aircraft's altitude decreases. Think of how a propeller works on a boat - the water you push will have to go somewhere. If you set the throttle to 100% in a huge cruise ship next to a dock, all that water would slam against the harbor walls, and some of it will reflect back onto your stern, pushing you away from the dock. Tunnel roof effect, on the other hand, would be slightly different. Since you're not sending much air upwards (downwash exists because we need to push the air down for the air to push us up), we probably won't see much lift created from flying near the roof. In fact, the bank effect may come into effect here, where the low pressure area above the wing plus reduced area due to the presence of the aircraft causes the flow to speed up above the plane, sucking the plane upwards towards the tunnel wall. I'm not exactly sure that bank effect would occur in a plane within a tunnel, but if anyone else knows more about it then it'll be super cool for you to tell us lol

[@gzk6nk]

You can't simulate this sort of flying. You just have to have the skills and experience, and be really sharp with frequent real flying of real aeroplanes in demanding types of flying.

[@grumbazor]

I am not impressed. Did it way too often by myself even with larger planes - in GTA5 ;)

[@filanfyretracker]

@@kelly2631 I wonder would they have to shut the fans off in the tunnel? afaik vehicular tunnels ventilate perpendicular to the direction of the tunnel fresh air is blowing in from ducts along the side of the roadway and is sucked out the roof. Or at least that is how the Holland Tunnel works, id imagine most car tunnels copied that.

[@MBSteinNL]

@@kelly2631I wonder. The airflow in the tunnel seems to be stable and constant, wouldn’t the airplane (as long as it remains on a stable and maintainable course) basically cause something akin to an ‘fake’ envelope around itself because of the stable pressure which possibly makes it easier to maintain the course?

[@Anonymous-zi5wr]

"I'll take my nice four engine plane that's has snacks, a bathroom, and place to go nappy when I get tired." Love the humor

[@BionicBurke]

From what they explain in the hanger video, it isn't as simple as just flying low. The "air cushion" effect from flying that low is intensified the moment they enter the hanger because the air is more confined and a different temperature than outside the hanger. They said the temperature could actually swing quite far from ambient which made it the most unpredictable element to the stunt. The hanger one is definitely the scariest for me because they are so close and it was completely unpredictable how the planes would react the moment they entered the hanger.

[@justsoicanfingcomment5814]

The second display going through the hanger is called barnstorming. My great grandpa did it, my grandpa did it and so have I. Its fun and as long as the barn or in this case hanger is big enough.

[@gdaddy5193]

I'm a private pilot. I'll address this and paragliding. All of my training (and instincts) had a great to do with ... STAYING AWAY FROM BUILDINGS AND MOUNTAINS.

[@mountainflyhigh]

You haven't gotten GoPro fever yet. All sorts of people take all sorts of massive risks just for the recognition.

[@ramjet4025]

o yer, just love the bold caps.

[@certaindeath7776]

and stay away from unneccesary low flying :D (winds can be risky, especially near buildings or mountains, greeting from the alps region)

[@buckmurdock2500]

@@ramjet4025 is there any other kind?

[@stephaneperron727]

​@@mountainflyhigh, many Darwin award candidates!

[@alexwilliams9900]

I was fortunate enough to meet the Red Bull sky acrobatic team. They are crazy, the skydiver (I want to say his name was JT, TJ, something like that) decided to jump form the Red Bull helicopter even after the airshow was temporarily suspended due to weather. A updraft caused him to get entangled in his parachute lines. He managed to get free and pull his reserve chute at the last min. He was ok but it was scary to watch.

[@hsbvt]

My son did his first solo this week! I showed him this and his reaction to the 1st minute...'ummm...no.' His CFI has thrown him around enough to know what's safe and what's not! 😂 CFI will be getting a nice Christmas bonus from this mother..🤣

[@morrispearl9981]

I think I recall that for the second stunt (the two planes flying through the hanger) that one pilot focuses on using ground markings to be exactly in the right place, and the other pilot focuses on keeping exactly the right distance between the two planes.

[@vengance27]

@14:37 lol. Keep making these videos. I appreciate how you break down the flights. I thought the Piper-cub one was the hardest but having heard about the team work aspect I can agree, that one had the least room for error.

[@gnad8594]

In fact Mike Patey who built this aircraft to pull this stunt was in constant communication with the pilot monitoring wind speed and I think other real time informations.

[@winch1587]

Love how you are just humble and not cocky like some guys. Keep up the good work.

[@MrKimmerlimmer]

Hi Kelsey - just love your humble commentary about your own skill set and your ability or not to do these types of flying stunts. However as a sailor I prefer to keep the blue side down 😊

[@JediMaster362]

Kelsey, I have a true story. So, I sometimes visit this place to try out their flight simulator, and, well, this time, I had a bit of a shock. See, there was a sea of onlookers behind me, and I had unintentionally climbed for... TOO long, resulting in an unintentional loop de loop. I at first tried to stop the climb, but, noted that it could pose more problems than continuing. This moment was, like, a split second. So, I continued with the maneuver, pulling back on the yoke, and finished the loop de loop maneuver. Being middle aged, I know that younger people are impressionable, and I was hit by a wall of shame in the heat of the moment. Like, my face probably turned beet red. So, I said to the onlookers "Hey, uh, don't do that in real life. Keep it in the simulator!", since I didn't want to be a bad influence. The reason it's embarrassing to me is the fact that I had... what, like, 5, 6 young onlookers who SAW this maneuver in the flight simulator, and they might have thought it was intentionally done, which, again, it was so not intentional. I was able to land the aircraft safely, and I let the next person have a turn. But, yikes, what a scare, dude. However, please note that I'm aware this was a simulation, and not reality. But, in spite of this mishap, I have NOT lost any passion for aviation. Far from it, actually. I have come to terms with the fact that it is a learning experience, and a valuable one at that, I might add. I'm not ashamed to admit that my biggest problem in flying is the landing approach. I flare prematurely, making the plane bounce like a bouncy ball. I just need to fine-tune my timing, and I'm cool with that knowledge.

[@__-vb3ht]

Actually, in the first clip with the STOL Cub, there were no go arounds. All the "failed attempts" were test flights, he never intended to land on any of these approaches. When he hit the ground and bounced, that was because of a sudden gust of wind. The goal was to just fly over and get a feel for it. They only tried to actually land on one attempt, the one that worked. Pretty cool.

[@Cowracer67]

As far as landing on the helipad... You never mentioned that the plane was specifically prepared by the aviation genius Mike Patey for this attempt and much engineering and calculations were done to see if it can be done in relative safety. Patey has an in-depth video on his KZbin channel detailing all the work done preparing and practicing for this. It's not like some guy jumped in a stock Carbon Cub and decided one day to land on the Burj al Arab on a whim.

[@MsJubjubbird]

oh all these stunts require months and months of preparation, training and practice runs. No doubt they did a practice version on the ground several times

[@CrAAAstastic]

and in this case a specifically designed plane.@@MsJubjubbird

[@jfbaze2001]

You don’t mention all of the practice flights and testing to see if this landing was even possible. I don’t agree with the risk assessment. There were lots of teammates, on the ground.

[@rustyATV]

Casey's just gives his opinions on the videos he's given. Journalism isn't his day job.

[@TheSomeguy201]

Sure - but if you hit the side of the building you're still dead. The modified plane won't save you.

[@grassblade63]

Regarding pilot trust, I have been riding motorcycles since before I could drive. I'm now 60. No wrecks. I never ride close to someone, just because you can't really trust what they might do. That is, with the exception of my one friend, who I've ridden with for years. We'll ride through turns, inches apart, or sometimes, handlebars barely touching. I know what he will do, and he likewise, and together we can ride safely in a fashion that looks cool and maybe dangerous. But trust like that takes time and practice to form. Same for these Red Bull guys.

[@TheWabbit]

100% agree with you+ I have 1 friend who we used to take a cruise about 60-70 miles on a hot summer day to place with a lot of lakes, we'd take the wives and just have a good ride, he asked if his brother could join us one time and about 2 miles from home a car pulled out in front and his brother panicked and almost took all of us out and leaving very little room for us to maneuver! You really have to trust a partner!

[@winch1587]

I think it's not only about trust. You can ride like that for 100 times, but that 1 time something can/might go wrong, a little sand or oil on the road, etc, and an accident might happen. These things can be done in a controlled environment, bit better not on a public road. We used to ride motorbikes when we were young, and 1 time a dog ran out on the road, right under a friends bike. He flipped and fell. Thank God he only got some minor injuries and not too much damage to his bike. Just emphasizing that anything can happen at anytime. Enjoy life and whatever you do..

[@knightwolf200612]

Starting on the left side in the tunnel makes all sense, since the open space between the 2 tunnels has a slight right hand bend. You can see that clearly at 14:49. By starting in the first tunnel on the left side, he enters the second tunnel exactly in the middle. This way he doesn't have to stear with the rudder, making it potentially unstable.

[@waggy401]

Steve Patey just posted about the helipad landing on his channel. It's amazing how much prep went into it. He built the airplane and specially modified it for STOL. Patey has built some very impressive airplanes over the years.

[@jneill]

Reminds me that because one can do something isn't the same that one should.

[@billb7876]

The long winter evenings must just fly past in your company

[@thepapschmearmd]

They were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.

[@terrygoyan]

That looks like Mike Patey (0:48) on the radar gun and radio. I think the pilot was getting air speed information while attempting the STOL landing. That wind sock was showing a cross wind but with a head wind those planes stop on a dime....and give you change!

[@UloPe]

Unstructurally sound 🤔😂

[@HughPlatt-g5u]

Where are you flying these days, Kelsey? Take us with you, please!

[@Montana_horseman]

I think you're a pretty amazing pilot Kelsey. When you take your own life in your hands it's one thing but.. when you take others lives in your hands that to me is a whole other level. I always appreciate you being humble, and that's why I'll say the you're a pretty amazing pilot part for/to you. 👍✈

[@MaxEPR]

"Stabilized approach." You are right about knowing how to correct an unestablished approach shows good airmanship. In almost 20 years at LAX I saw several "recoveries". The two standouts were a Continental DC-10 doing a falling leaf on short final onto the one of the 25 Complex runways. The most impressive was a JAL 747 doing a 360 on short-final to 24R for spacing. An aircraft that size doing a 360 over Inglewood at less than 1000' was impressive! I wish we had cell phones back then to capture those events.

[@thoughtful_criticiser]

I've watched the full video for the helipad landing in Dubai. They measured the wind for weeks, the problem was the window to do it was a few minutes at dawn because when the sun came up the winds became unmanageable. He had help on the pad, one measuring wind and the other his speed with a radar gun. The go arounds were due to sudden wind changes, his landing was unexpected as it was his last possible attempt on the last day. The plane was custom built for this stunt.

[@Lampe2020]

Flying those little airplanes through the hangar or whatever that building was is basically just like flying a larger model helicopter indoors (and at full horizontal speed). It's enough space for the craft to fly, but the error margin before crashing into anything is so low that it's a near-impossible thing to do without damaging anything or in the case of real planes, killing someone.

[@fender8421]

My man, thanks for giving such an objective, in-depth look at this. I've jumped with a few of the Red Bull guys, and sometimes the comments in aviation groups about these events make me want to hit my head on a wall. This was a great, neutral look!

[@JohnPepp]

My late father and I went to a Red Bull Flying Race that took place on the Detroit River. Those pilots are crazy, but they are very good at what they do.

[@carsonjewett3349]

tailwheel planes have an especially exaggerated left turning tendency on takeoff due to p factor and gyroscopic precession. When the tail comes off the ground, the resultant force from the prop is thrust essentially from the right side of it instead of in the middle

[@whyjnot420]

Along with the skills of the pilots, lets us not forget the skills of the designers and builders of the aircraft themselves. As well as those who maintain them.

[@tappajaav]

While we're at it let's just not forget anyone.

[@kenbrown2808]

I watched an interview with a military performance group pilot, and the interviewer asked him how bad things would be if they bumped wings, and he said, "honestly, we bump wings all the time. you can't avoid it when you're flying that close. but the thing is, as long as you're going the same speed and the same direction, it's no worse than bumping in a parking lot."

[@jamesallen8838]

I call BS. Airplanes damage VERY easily, especially the wing tips. I own a small plane. I have damaged it with very little contact 😡 $2,500 later it was fixed

[@noahsichel7764]

​@@jamesallen8838wrong

[@paulsmodels]

nonsense. I think you are making this up.

[@TrinitysTalons]

they may be exaggerating on the car parking lot analogy. if they do bump wings, its at a very little impact. Plus i would expect them to have reinforced the wingtip anyway from damage@@jamesallen8838

[@kenbrown2808]

@@jamesallen8838 have you SEEN military budgets?

[@bobdonovan34]

I've been to the Red Bull Air Races at Spielberg and the crowd was a bit unnerved by the stuff the helicopter was doing between the races. I think it's only a matter of time until someone's hurt on the ground and we're discussing if this stuff is borderline reckless.

[@MrBashem]

That is what they aim for.

[@J_K944]

The propeller in most single-engine airplanes rotates clockwise. This clockwise movement generates an equal force in the opposite direction. This causes the aircraft to move left during flight. On the ground, the left-turning tendency generated by torque increases friction on the left side of the landing gear.

[@devonfarmer3438]

Driving race cars, rock climbing, sky diving, and flying stunts are all dangerous i cant see a problem, this is the equivalent of a bus driver reacting to rally racing

[@Hybris51129]

I really think that what Red Bull does is get people interested in aviation. They know how dangerous what they do is but the spectacle is the end product and that is what they produce. I feel holding these guys to the same standards as regular pilots is foolish as they are clearly something entirely unique.

[@thaddiushelicon534]

Red Bull are a marketing company and as such have no real interest in any of these things only in making money. These stunts are only a tool to use for publicity in order to generate income. I personally know one of the pilots seen in the video and this is what he has told me about being involved with Red Bull.

[@gpaull2]

@@thaddiushelicon534- Aviation is expensive. Money is obviously the end goal of any company, otherwise it would most likely be cease to be a company. Red Bulls commitment to aviation is more than marketing though…it’s obvious from their amazing hangar full of vintage aircraft and all of the ways they have pushed aviation that at least one person of influence at Red Bull has a passion for aviation. There are FAR CHEAPER ways to advertise.

[@crosshyparu]

This is just bush flying with helmets

[@gleem1751]

4:57 The light explanation was a gem for me. I need a whole video on it

[@tomlong8472]

Kelsey I believe the tunnel run started to the left for alignment into the 2nd tunnel entrance, centreline in the 1st tunnel would have caused him to have to correct as he lifted off

[@markpunt9638]

Thank you for sharing and explaining. Nothing wrong with a go around - anyone frightened by that really should not be flying. Compressor stalls on the other hand are a bit, shall we say unnerving.

[@syx3s]

as far as the landing on the helipad on the side / top of the highrise his indicator was mike patey (who happened to also be the guy that heavily modified the plane that was being flown specifically for this purpose) who was on the radio with the pilot the entire time working together to plan the entire event.

[@syx3s]

anyone that read that that doesn't know who mike patey is... that's his channel name and you ought to know who he is so WATCH IT. he's the BEST.

[@PortCharmers]

I heard that when ships travel too fast too close to something or one another, the Bernoulli-effect sucks them towards each other (the most famous incident resulted in HMS Hawke ramming into RMS Olympic). I wonder if any similar effect would occur when flying in a tunnel.

[@markf.2050]

Actually, that plane was specifically designed to do that stunt.

[@natec599]

Mike paety has several videos on how much work went into the burge helo pad landing, the tunnel landing also took lots of training, even strobe glasses for the lights.

[@corneliusblackwood9014]

The point of Redbull is to push the limit. It’s how I’ve lived my entire life, racing motorcycles professionally, skiing and snowboarding all around the US, the Alps etc, Skydiving, 150ft + gas mix scuba, downhill mountain biking etc. I wouldn’t trade my life for anything, I’d redo everything almost the same. I’m old and beat up now, I’m paying the price for it (about to have my spine fused actually) but it was well worth it!

[@Laerei]

While I have close to zero real life experience with airplanes, I have flown Spitfire in DCS World simulator and them single engine planes really do want to go left and roll left, so you not only have to adjust your rudder, you also need to trim your ailerons in regards to how much power you are applying to counter the centrifugal force. You also need to trim when you change altitude because the air density changes and thus how easy it is for the engine to roll the airplane also changes. That's a lot of fiddling in an airplane of that era.

[@guydudley]

There's a reason why Red Bull is so expensive, and it's not the cost of producing the drink. Consumers are not only funding these stunts, but likely also the funding for compensation when one eventually kills someone.

[@darrenconway8117]

Redbull did a great YT video on all of the simulation, testing, physical training, muscle memory training that went into the tunnel flight. I am an engineer and not a pilot, but after seeing the Redbull video, I would rate the tunnel flight the most difficult. I see from comments below that a similar effort went into the Dubai landing.

[@BooBaddyBig]

There may be an aerodynamic effect in the tunnel which pulls you into the ceiling. So it may be harder than it looks. It looks easy, but I'm not sure at all.

[@fridaycaliforniaa236]

Whatever they do, those Redbull pilots are a different breed of animals

[@LoriTalbot-du2qt]

I was on a jet departing from San Francisco about 30 years ago that was involved in a very near miss and it was so terrifying that I haven't been on a plane since. I still have nightmares !

[@martinbarabe4643]

I believe that starting on the left side on the last video is because the entrance of the second tunnel is to the right. Does not have to bank to turn into the second tunnel.

[@TheKIDmotovlogs]

I may be one of few people who was really excited to experience a go around. Was on a flight that was too fast and pilot decided on a go around and I was soooo ecstatic to know ehat it looks like and feels like haha. I also was a window seat near the rear of the wing so i got to see the flap adjustments and I had the time of my life while everyone else was very confused.

[@TadiclsOperator]

"Nappy when i get tired" you are a national treasure hands down best one liner

[@whyjnot420]

Those takeoff/landing competitions are amazing to watch. Even though I know exactly how they do what they do, it still looks like black magic.

[@kosh6612]

Inside the tunnel might be nice smooth air, but when you exit would be the most dangerous (I imagine), as a sudden drop in headwind exiting the restricted space of the tunnel could be a problem. I noted the smoketrail does indeed drop just as he leaves the tunnel before pulling up.

[@seanmorrissey3103]

About the Burj landing: think he did exactly what I would do (with about 50 hrs in taildraggers, none of them specialized like this fabulous super cub): he risked taking the tailwheel off (which would have definitely slowed him down A LOT as that hardware absorbed the energy), or he could have risked just bouncing and having to go around. It's not a normal landing; it's a crazy stunt. I think if he'd busted the airplane putting it in there, he'd still have the option, after assessing the damage, of saying "nope" to taking off again, heading for the elevator and letting the support crew deal with getting the airplane off the building. I am certain he was just looking to get the mains over the edge and get stopped. As for the takeoff, I've taken off from a few runways with a dropoff at the end, and all I can say is air underneath you is always welcome... I don't understand why any pilot would be intimidated by this. You're in an airplane, and it has wings. It likes to have air underneath it. As for the tunnel stuff: not for me, LOL

[@nicholasmorrow2601]

Plus , that plane is not a stock carbon cub. It’s a heavily heavily modified version of a carbon cub to specifically do this landing.. That tail wheel even has added sub structure and thick carbon fiber skids just in case it has a strike. The fuel tank was removed from the wings and built low in the fuselage to lower the center of gravity to help with breaking and so on.. also it has nitrous oxide injection too

[@graham2631]

The look of terror on the first guys face...priceless.

[@biffjones2601]

Landing on the helipad could have been done the first time. He was told to put up a big show with multiple "attempts" to make it look that much more of an accomplishment for the Red Bull advertising.

[@AeroworksProductions]

This Carbon Cub had some extensive mods that beefed up the empennage especially for a potential tail strike.

[@RmDIrSudoSu]

I remember doing the Hangar thing in IL-2 Cliffs of Dover, we were in perfect formation with two friends when suddenly a friend spawned into that hangar and I crashed into that new aircraft, obviously not a big deal in a video game crashing your plane is not the same as in real life and I'll not argue about the level of details of flight models etc.

[@harryschaefer8563]

My first boss, Mr. Morton Sobin piloted a bomber set up for aerial reconnaissance, once landing back in England as the only survivor of a mission. He suvived because of all the extra armor installed beneath him. He never talked to me about his wartime exploits. His son-in-law told me that once, upon returning from a mission, he celebrated by flying beneath a bridge in London (which didn't go unnoticed by the brass), he was called onto the carpet for a thorough reaming. He taught me so much about photography in the first summer I worked for him that I arrived at college (RIT) in the fall with the photography skills of an upper-classman. He also sent me on my first ever ride in an airplane, taking off from the Hackensack River in a seaplane to photograph a factory on the Hudson River. I had to loosen my seatbelt to lean out of the cabin to take the photos.

[@josephphillips9243]

Fear of heights, and now fear of a pilot yelling out "Red Bull gives you wings" on the 737 I'm flying on

[@billiardtown]

Can you try doing something like these on MS Flight Simulator when you have some down time? I enjoyed your Flight Sim videos from a while back. Would be fun to see you try something wild in the safety of a consumer software simulator.

[@frankebbert7315]

The musician and architect in me, looking at your world from a passenger seat on the regular, I would say your ability to pair up confidently with another pilot would go well. You fly heavies after all. Thats a team sport. That said, i have a high respect for your professionalism declaring the precision of your limitations.

[@ChristophShyper]

Kelsey, what you failed to mention is the main reason why Czepiela's STOL was so difficult - air density and temperature at this height in Dubai. He barely had any lift at this speed hence controling decent was so difficult. And why take of was not possible and he needed to dive. They prepared for that for like 2-3 years. Build this plane from scratch - it's 1 of the 2 planes that have NOS. Read about it, it's very interesting and Luke's very interesting pilot doing professionally a lot crazy stunts.

[@xilix]

I reckon having Mike on the horn was a huge advantage as well. I can't imagine anyone else I'd rather guide me in for something like this.

[@ellaella5537]

I’ve seen the Canadian Redbull pilot Pete McLeod in an airshow in MTL, it was incredible. He actually decided to give us a bonus and went up twice, these guys are soooo passionate. If you ever have the chance to see one of their top pilots in real life, GO! I’ve seen tons of air shows, but I’ve never seen anything like it.

[@tim.garrison]

I haven't read the other comments, so if someone else mentioned this already I apologize. Kelsey, you should fire up MSFS and install the Red Bull challenges and try it yourself. Stream it and get feedback! :D (I have hundreds of hours in the CC19, but I couldn't get anywhere close to landing on that helipad.)

[@melissalentz32]

You’re too modest, CAPTAIN!!! Congratulations again. Huzzah! PS - your closing line about snacks and naps was hysterical!

[@BryceTucker-t1c]

as a former Airforce pilot i can tell you that close formation flying is all on the lead, I was at Nellis when five (5) of my friends were killed during practice with the thunderbirds. If you notice the wingman (trailing pilot) is watching his lead. You could learn all these maneuvers with practice. Don't underestimate yourself, People who consider the gift of piloting an aircraft understand the complexities of doing so. Practice is everything.

[@phuketexplorer]

Kelsey, please don't attempt ANY of them. A 747 is definitely toooooo big!

[@jameshawkins6201]

I used to enjoy the Red Bull races. Not sure they are still going but they were always fun.

[@philwachocki7958]

Actually I drove a tandem with 20000 lbs of weights. A scale truck. I had a zx10 and took it all the way. 194 on gps and 211 by speedo on 2 wheels. We would find new construction areas to play. New roads, clean bailouts, just go as fast as you can. Bigger doesn't mean its any easier. In fact, it hones your skills to a fine edge.

[@curiouscat8457]

One of the fascinating things on this landing is, the pilot even didn't bother to do it up wind. Look at the windsock: wind 90 dg from the right!

[@spencermackel7800]

Very cool seeing Mike Patey working with RedBull on this video✌️

[@nopenheimer]

That bad one wheel bounce was so dramatic that I suspect it was intentional, done to add tension. That isn't dismissive, it only means he's that skilled. It reminds me of the 'drunk guy steals plane' airshow performance.

[@lllllRBlllll]

I'm not a pilot but I'd think the most difficult thing about the building landing would be the lack of visual references that would normally be available at ground level. Just aiming for a spot in the air really, and it would be much more difficult to judge speed and rate of decent from so high above the ground.

[@xx-ui2gm]

I think the reason they have the plane take off on one side of the tunnel is so the car doesn't hit the plane if something goes wrong, they were following it pretty close at first

[@CraigGrant-sh3in]

I have watched videos where guys in Alaska take their planes out and land on the top of mountains that don't have more than a few feet of a flat spot. The first guy land and tells the others where to come down. They are going so slow they almost look like helicopters landing . They then take off in just a few feet . I think a house fan could give them enough lift to take off because of the huge wing area they have

[@dleddy14]

In the first stunt, if he is short and breaks his plane, he's got a long way down if he can't stay on the platform. I sure he can bail out, but with the building just downwind and at such a low altitude, it seems rather dangerous. Until you pointed out the windsock, I figured he was flying into a strong headwind.

[@RS_]

Back In 2000 I've seen one of the greatest flights in the World, when Jurgis Kairys flew under a bridge upside down. Formula 1 champion Mika Hakkinen was on that bridge when it happend!