Red line oil VS AMSOIL 5W20 Lab testing reveals the WINNER

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@multiluxem2218
@multiluxem2218 Жыл бұрын
Here're my thoughts: Amsoil and redline are both excellent but different oil. As for which one is better, it really depends on your needs. Take 5W30 grade for example, Amsoil SS seems to be more suitable for daily driving vehicles (extended drain interval, cleaning capabilities, good cold-start performance, fuel economy, etc.) Their anti-wear related additives don't seem to be much compared to redline but it does have higher TBN. It also has lower viscosity, HTHS and low CCS viscosity, which makes it fuel-efficient and better at cold starting. Redline is another story. It has high viscosity, much higher HTHS, and a lot of ZDDP. It also has high ester content AFAIK. These make it good high-performance oil (very aggressive driving and even on track). But it also has high CCS Viscosity, which makes it not as good at cold-starting. It also seems to have high ash content, which could limit its usability.
@chrisburnsed6349
@chrisburnsed6349 3 жыл бұрын
Quick story about blackstone analysis. I’ve been a skeptic so I ordered a test kit and had my buddy order one also and sent to his address in his name. We pulled fresh samples from the exact same bottle of oil at the exact same time and sent them in under our separate names and addresses. When the “analysis” came back the results weren’t even in the same hemisphere . So far off I calmly called them to tell them what I had done and to get an explanation . They immediately hung up on me. Lol. While I appreciate the info he tried to give in this video and do use redline myself please take it with a very small grain of salt.
@freebehindbars8654
@freebehindbars8654 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see proof.
@lonniebeal6032
@lonniebeal6032 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know if you guys shook up the oil bottles before using them, many uploads have stated if the oil sits in the container, some of the additives can settle to the bottom.
@Roadking556
@Roadking556 2 жыл бұрын
If what you say is true . A investigation is needed on them. THERE'S no excuse.
@andrewteal3016
@andrewteal3016 2 жыл бұрын
When I worked a shop, we used CAT for all oil analysis. Across the board - regardless of engine mfg. Very much liked them.
@DuckMcDuckinson
@DuckMcDuckinson 2 жыл бұрын
They were good to me man idk what happened there.
@lancelamoon5294
@lancelamoon5294 3 жыл бұрын
I tell you what I been using Amsoil now for a few years and I literally use it in everything. Trucks diesel and gas both my boats side by sides even lawnmower the tractor even chainsaw and weedeater. This stuff is great I started it in my trucks noticing the trucks I wasn’t having to add any oil between oil changes first off. Then started putting it in everything else noticing samething no oil added between changes. Ok so then I start the oil sample bit on everything samething coming back with better numbers on my reports. Basically after using for about 3 years now in literally everything I own Im a believer in Amsoil.
@charlespetersonii6989
@charlespetersonii6989 2 жыл бұрын
Same as you except i switched from amsoil to Schaeffer and will never pook back. Amsoil rep here on youtube has a video of schaeffer 75w-90 and 85w-140 both beating the amsoil. The best video was the 15w40 the rotella t4 which is their conventional oil beats amsoil in cold pour and its not even their synthetic line. Amsoil is good oil but its not the best 💯
@sdshawn29
@sdshawn29 3 жыл бұрын
My buddy has 900k miles on his dodge ram Cummins he's ran amsoil since 45k he blew head gasket at 700k the cylinders still had factory etching in them. He pulls 90% of the time and still going strong , let us know when you have some real world testimonials we can compare.
@jimkline746
@jimkline746 3 жыл бұрын
Diesel engines go way longer the gas engines anyway
@jimkline746
@jimkline746 3 жыл бұрын
@@economynotstable I think it’s because diesel fuel, per se, is a lubricant.
@sdshawn29
@sdshawn29 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimkline746 again factory etchings like zero wear after 700k miles thats impressive ill see if he still has the picture I think he took some after being shocked.
@jimkline746
@jimkline746 3 жыл бұрын
@@sdshawn29 it’s impressive to myself as well. I’ve used Amsoil a few times and liked it
@peterssynthetics-independe6786
@peterssynthetics-independe6786 3 жыл бұрын
A guy had a chevy sprinter van that went 900k miles but nothing was wrong with engine, had a valve keeper broke. His transmission had over 1.5 million miles on it as of 3 years ago, using Amsoil ATF.
@wnfakind9197
@wnfakind9197 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a todays version of these 2 oils , also just buy the oil from your local parts store, and I’m sure both oils have reasons why they have less or more of certain additives, but IMO amsoil signature series is king
@davewallace9048
@davewallace9048 11 ай бұрын
Amsoil the best oil on the planet in my opinion
@peterssynthetics-independe6786
@peterssynthetics-independe6786 3 жыл бұрын
AMSOIL isnt hard to buy. Just contact me or another dealer! :) Dont believe the hate!
@Marco-fi6gv
@Marco-fi6gv 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@jaybaptiste6755
@jaybaptiste6755 2 жыл бұрын
When you spend $500 in your final membership year. Your renewal is free. Amsoil sells more than automobile oils. When you have daily drivers. Light truck,atv,strip&street car,motorcycle, race car,diesel toter you'll exceed $500 easily. Amsoil comes with bucks back program perks.
@HerseySyntheticOil
@HerseySyntheticOil Жыл бұрын
And it's not hard to get upto 500.00 when you use your memory others like friends and family. That's why the membership was designed. If yiu6want to continue to by MSRP price that's ok. You may not want to help others get a better price and that's ok. Do what's best for you and your wallet.
@98localunion
@98localunion 2 жыл бұрын
I swear by amsoil , I've been using it from the early 80s in our jet boat , my old shovel head, s , a d 7 Silverados ,and now a 2015 Silverado HD 6.6 and I would never use anything else , bill from philly,and myrtle beach sc
@MrTwinsrule
@MrTwinsrule 3 жыл бұрын
Data is isolated to each application. Red line is a fine product. But I would not switch from amsoil over one report.. Many studies I have seen comparing amsoil to any brand shows amsoil way ahead . I have proved it myself in several different engines of my own But great video .
@Marco-fi6gv
@Marco-fi6gv 3 жыл бұрын
🎯
@MrCROBosanceros
@MrCROBosanceros 2 жыл бұрын
I use Amsoil too but I haven't been working for the last eleven months and Amsoil has risen their prices. I live in Canada and I believe they have to pay more for transportation but I don't drive that much right now. Since everybody in the USA is swearing by Amsoil I would like to compare Amsoil to German Ravenol oils. Most of the oils from Ravenol are 100% PAO-based oils and they have the biggest selection of oils that I'm aware of any other company.
@dasboototto
@dasboototto 2 жыл бұрын
How about test an ATV vs a Motorcycle oil from the same manufacture and the same rating (SG JASO MA)? Is it really different or do they put the same oil in two different bottles?
@dustifilms
@dustifilms 3 жыл бұрын
The pyrimid scheme comment was interesting. I kind of noticed the same thing. I had a good experience with the oil itself though. A buddy gave me a box of maybe 10 quarts for like 20 bucks and it performed better than my penzoil platinum
@jeffreyzabawski4862
@jeffreyzabawski4862 3 жыл бұрын
In what kind of vehicle?
@dustifilms
@dustifilms 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyzabawski4862 1.6t ecoboost with some mods and tune
@oiladviseguy
@oiladviseguy 3 жыл бұрын
It is interesting that people bring up the issue of a pyrimid scheme. I have worked in retail and warehousing, and nearly every product you buy is sold multiple times. Online purchases can be far worse. The oil company bottles the oil, and makes money, then they ship it to their warehouse. Their warehouse makes a profit when they ship it to an international warehouse. the international warehouse ships it to the store warehouse where they make money when they ship it to their store. Then the store often makes over 100% profit. This is far worse than the way Amsoil markets their oil.
@dustifilms
@dustifilms 3 жыл бұрын
@@oiladviseguyif they don't want to be called a pyrimid scheme then they should stop operating exactly like one
@cjwright1960
@cjwright1960 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not a pyramid scheme it’s a direct purchase from the manufacturer, you’re paying a membership for free shipping and reduced cost, the benefit from a soul perspective is you are more likely to buy other lubricants from them do to your membership. You can also purchase without being a member, and there is no “upline/down line” it’s literally like paying a Sam’s club or Costco membership to get member pricing to keep you coming back. You can also sign up to be a dealer but you have to sell their product at MSRP or lose your dealer benefits. Most high performance shops are dealers, just have to ask around your area, but they will probably do drop shipment for you after you buy so finding in store is kind of rare.
@dneitzke
@dneitzke 3 жыл бұрын
I have been using Amsoil products for 7 years now and only have beyond excellent satisfaction results, your evaluation based on how many PPM's in a category of elements in your attempt to show a winner by "more is better" is just plain scary rational. Also, let me correct you for your incorrect statement on purchasing Amsoil, You do not require a membership to purchase, I have one because I'm purchasing for (4) personal cars. 2 service pickups, 3 service vans, shop compressors, and my neighbor's lawnmower. and this includes all transmissions & differentials and it saves over 20 times the amount of the annual membership, and this is just the starting point, Over a 3 year period the fuel usage compared to what those same vehicles were consumed in the same environment dropped 20.3 % based on gallons used per miles driven to 3 years previous, and this doesn't include how smooth they all perform Soooooo?? Show me a column that shows me switching from Mobil #1 was a bad choice.
@Marco-fi6gv
@Marco-fi6gv 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent points, very well stated. You pretty much said what I was thinking.
@rogereprest
@rogereprest 3 жыл бұрын
I use both redline & Amsoil and i find Amsoil very easy to get I order Amsoil on Monday & its on my front door Wednesday 5w40 euro less than 7.dollars a quart
@sdshawn29
@sdshawn29 3 жыл бұрын
I have a buddy that has close to 900k miles on his 99 dodge ram Cummings he has ran amsoil since break in around 45k miles . He blew a head gasket at around 700k miles and after pulling the heads off and looking down the barrels he could still see the factory etching in the cylinder walls. He's had this truck banks since 100k miles and it pulls trailers most of the time, he just put in his 4th trans and truck is still going strong. He does his oil changes every 25k miles so take that for what it's worth let me know when you have real world bud you can compare to.
@ethimself5064
@ethimself5064 3 жыл бұрын
U bet
@trackpackgt877
@trackpackgt877 2 жыл бұрын
Yes bro I rebuilt a 300,000 Mi 302 that had ran Mobil 1 synthetic it's whole life and it still had the factory hone marks on the cylinder walls no copper showing in the main bearings the engine looked almost new still!!! So I believe what your buddy told you it's absolutely true! I also just switched to Amsoil always ran mobile one because of what I seen But Amsoil is even better and it's available locally for me now
@rpmautoreviews9249
@rpmautoreviews9249 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm.. but regardless of the ingredients, if Amsoil has 2 points higher TBN score, and apparently Amsoil has a better TEOST Score and Better 4 Ball Wear test, but Redline has 2% less evaporation (which is great feature), then Amsoil would be the winner, if add up real world testing and not ingredient numbers... :-)
@brianpeters867
@brianpeters867 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. This guy thinks more is better. ‘I have a migraine so let me take the whole bottle’ *eye roll*
@ana3omar
@ana3omar 3 жыл бұрын
There are limits for these additives as excessive detergent concentrations can cause issues with ash deposits from the detergent itself.
@vladm9096
@vladm9096 9 ай бұрын
Be carefully guys. Video is great, but gives you wrong impression. :) Additives are very important, however, they depend on base stock used. In some cases more of certain type is needed, in some cases very little or not required at all. You can't measure quality of oil just comparing number and amount of additives. This is just as far from reality as you can get. Base stock characteristics dictate additives needed and their compatibility. As a good simple example if stock composite is naturally provides multi grade characteristics, polymers thickeners are not needed or needed very little. Even without them these base stocks are much better because they do not have polymers that are easy sheer down moving oil out of grade, burn providing more deposits etc. The same for cleaning agents, friction reducers etc. It is not as simple as it looks. In addition it is always compromises and tradeoffs and at different temperatures. More cleaning scraping agents, more friction, but better cleaning. Etc. For actual comparison oils best to be tested as a whole package in real environment by taking used oil analyzes or close emulating real conditions. I worked in that field...
@bbartlow0307
@bbartlow0307 2 ай бұрын
absolutely correct
@nismoztuner34skyline32
@nismoztuner34skyline32 3 жыл бұрын
Red Line for me any day, much better than Amsoil .Red line is smoother and doesn’t burn at all ,tried them both for my Nissan 370Z
@SloppyJOLopys
@SloppyJOLopys Жыл бұрын
I run amsoil 10/40 z rod in my sbc427 stroker, got about 3k miles on the oil now and it hasn't used any. And im doing rolling burnouts constantly.
@ericntanya9105
@ericntanya9105 5 ай бұрын
Same oil
@l8tapex
@l8tapex 3 жыл бұрын
Redline user since 1987, Amsoil is fine. Stay away from RP. People get stuck on brand name like local sports teams despite info. Its ok life goes on.
@98localunion
@98localunion 2 жыл бұрын
I never try to run nothing but amsoil , but you hit it on the head , people swear by thier brands ,and they will always use the same , either way , you got it right
@anthonybauman5233
@anthonybauman5233 2 жыл бұрын
if you will, please let me know why I should stay away from Royal Purple? Thank you. because I have 23 quarts of the HPS.
@gmax341
@gmax341 2 жыл бұрын
Started out using RP when I got into HQ oils. A local shop sells all Amsoil and sold me on it, also saying RP is 💩 lol My next oil change will be with Ams.
@gmax341
@gmax341 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonybauman5233 🤷🏻 I’ve clocked about 15k on a brand new car. Would be 20k but 5k was factory oil. No issues to comment on except product being hard to find locally, especially filters. Second car about 6k-9k so far with RP. First 3k with the regular then the rest with HMX. 125k current miles.
@Funkydood
@Funkydood 3 ай бұрын
Next project: New Valvoline formula(s)!!!
@rockerforlife194
@rockerforlife194 Жыл бұрын
Amsoil can be pricy yes. But, transmissions and engines, rear/front differentials and transfer cases ALL can be VERY expensive to replace. Therefore, I will use Amsoil. It is expensive yes but, it is the best. And I've used everything over my 62 yrs. I'll never use anything but Amsoil and I DO TRUST their extended mileage claims 100% after witnessing it myself.
@colinnicols5387
@colinnicols5387 6 ай бұрын
Amsoil was the first to mass produce ground vehicle synthetic lubricants. They set the bar. They are the masters. There are other good oils for sure but name and sponsorship alone do not determine performance.
@ryanv7195
@ryanv7195 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. So what oil did you test that has the same amount of moly but is cheaper?
@arxigos365
@arxigos365 Жыл бұрын
I guess valvoline
@samiraliyev3383
@samiraliyev3383 10 ай бұрын
Hello dear friend. I want to know if Redline oils can be used in Hyundai mpi motor vehicles?
@deadnorth8333
@deadnorth8333 18 күн бұрын
Looks good on paper but dyno results are where you find out where the rubber hits the road
@ryangwin6997
@ryangwin6997 3 жыл бұрын
PPM has nothing to do with Performance of the OIL Rookies
@reubenmorris487
@reubenmorris487 3 жыл бұрын
If what you say is true, then why are the various amounts of additives measured against tangible objectives and compared to one another?
@brianpeters867
@brianpeters867 3 жыл бұрын
Amsoil formulates and measures performance based on testing, testing and more testing. When something works, it just works. Amsoil is worth every penny. Motor Oil, ATF, gear lube it all gives significant improvement to your vehicle.
@richardmarte293
@richardmarte293 2 жыл бұрын
They are both great for their intent of use. This is the elephant in the room when testing amsoil it's 100% synthetic. Redline is full synthetic. Not an equal comparison.
@Kgio-2112
@Kgio-2112 Жыл бұрын
Elephant in the room. Ha
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 8 ай бұрын
One is group 4 and the other is group 5 base stocks.
@darrylsjodin7184
@darrylsjodin7184 7 ай бұрын
Clearly the Red Line oil isn’t an API SP oil, as 30 weight and lower are to be less than 800 ppm of Zinc.
@mikebradford7780
@mikebradford7780 3 жыл бұрын
I need a high moly content for my Hemis . Amsoil definitely lacks in this aspect. What other choice is there but Redline?
@wilsonrawlin8547
@wilsonrawlin8547 3 жыл бұрын
Tribodyne.
@zackz1260
@zackz1260 3 жыл бұрын
amsoil makes a 'classic car' oil specifically for this
@TheBikemaster94
@TheBikemaster94 2 жыл бұрын
Royal Purple HPS
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 2 жыл бұрын
Mike, Triax and Primrose motor oils have Moly in them. So does Torco. Primrose makes a viscous additive with their Moly-D in it. Then there is Liqui-Moly which has the black moly in it.
@charlespetersonii6989
@charlespetersonii6989 2 жыл бұрын
Schaeffer oil
@404notfound.....
@404notfound..... 8 ай бұрын
The only problem is red line consistency does not do that good for oil analysis where amsoil does.
@tinamcgarrah7794
@tinamcgarrah7794 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any findings of calcium ever doing any harm to any engine? Sure seems to be what you are paying for in the Amsoil.. Is that any indication for its great TBN number at virgin state? Just Curious. THANX for the money spent and time taken to make this video!👍
@DuckMcDuckinson
@DuckMcDuckinson 2 жыл бұрын
Calcium is good for your engine as it keeps wear metals very low.
@thetechlibrarian
@thetechlibrarian Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that the only boutique specialty oil owned by a major manufacturer is red line
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 8 ай бұрын
Who is the manufacturer ?
@mjones2305
@mjones2305 3 жыл бұрын
Data alone doesn't determine which motor oil is best- real world conditions do.
@jimkline746
@jimkline746 3 жыл бұрын
So the people at NASA have it all wrong when they simulate 0 gravity, G force, and vacuum. Yea, you’re a smart one.
@therowdyboysnetwork2827
@therowdyboysnetwork2827 2 жыл бұрын
Jimkline746 nasa once put a rocket together completely wrong and it killed a bunch of People on take off
@Maynardd
@Maynardd 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched a video on another channel. Sent in Amsoil after 5000 miles, then he sent in redline after 5000 miles to be analyzed. Red line literally destroyed Amsoil signature series in every way. And I only use Amsoil. But now I’m wondering…
@charlespetersonii6989
@charlespetersonii6989 2 жыл бұрын
Check out Schaeffer oil 💯🏁
@john_i39
@john_i39 Жыл бұрын
Link? I’m curious
@Maynardd
@Maynardd Жыл бұрын
@@john_i39 link? That was four months ago. But the channel was “Ford boss me”
@HiTechOilCo
@HiTechOilCo 8 ай бұрын
Used oil analysis is only relevant for the vehicle or equipment the oil sample came from. There are a myriad of variables when trying to compare used motor oil from two different vehicles, or even the same vehicle. Time, humidity, temperature, cold starts, load, speed, fuel used, fuel additives uses, etc., all can have significant effects on a motor oil and since none of these many variables are controlled, this means used oil analysis test result comparisons are not valid.
@darrylsjodin7184
@darrylsjodin7184 7 ай бұрын
I get your premise that a higher average of some additives means the oil is better, but that doesn’t play out in real world engine testing and industry standard wear tests. It’s the over all formulation of the oil that matters most, as some additives can counter other additives in their role in the engine and the protection they provide. Amsoil has shown lower levels of wear in tests, even though Red Line has a higher level of ZDDP. Amsoil Signature Series produced a smaller wear scar than Red Line in the Project Farm test, so more ZDDP isn’t necessary better.
@m.newman7722
@m.newman7722 15 күн бұрын
Comparing 1 additive to another in different oil brand samples results in questionable overall improvement. How much is too much and how little is too little. What do the experts state regarding enough is enough and a little more does not overall matter in the overall scheme of things. An oil company can just increase the amount of each additive above everyone else and then claim they are the best. So far in all the different KZbin videos, I have not seen or heard this question answered to any great extent. Real world oil tests are important, but, it would seem that there are enough differences to question the real winner overall. Also, many people seem committed to one brand or another yet claim they have received excellent results over many years. So, what is the real truth, and how do we quallitatively obtain this truth, that actually means anything?
@darrylsjodin7184
@darrylsjodin7184 15 күн бұрын
@ Very true😊
@darianthompson5975
@darianthompson5975 Жыл бұрын
TBN should be seen as important enough to be graded here. He said best 2 of 3 but did give a 3rd, just the sum of the first and second
@Papparratzi
@Papparratzi Жыл бұрын
Is it possible that Amsoils higher boron numbers are due to it using the higher quality boron esters? If so, that needs to be equated into your data.
@jassenleonardopinedavallad7180
@jassenleonardopinedavallad7180 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, 🎉video. Amsoil 🎉
@frasiec
@frasiec Жыл бұрын
I’m finding redline is very expensive. Amsoil oe is way cheaper. Redline is even more expensive than SS
@mikecacciatore543
@mikecacciatore543 3 жыл бұрын
I run amsoil in my built ls1 it's worth the 💰 hard to find sometimes
@FAFO1983
@FAFO1983 Жыл бұрын
Let's see how they perform during and after, not a pre-analysis. Let's see how the motor looks after an oil change. Let's see what's in the oil after that and how it is standing up. How much is needed of a particular additive and how much is too much?
@MACTFordEdge
@MACTFordEdge Жыл бұрын
360,000 miles on the engine and only use Amsoil a few times. Otherwise I used over 30 different synthetic off the shelf oils and the engine was clean as it would be from the factory. So yeah hype on AMSOIL. Oh by the way those oils were ran 10,000 miles per oil change.
@fusionvic
@fusionvic 2 жыл бұрын
I've had mixed results from Blackstone analysis as well. They never read fuel dilution correctly, so they have people with EcoBoost/GTDI extending their oil changes out to 10k miles incorrectly. One person posted their 0W-20 results from Blackstone with 11k-13k mile change intervals and it was clear the viscosity was thicker than average with a very low TBN, yet Blackstone said continue this change interval... Engine oil tends to thin out initially when its ready to be changed due to fuel dilution, etc... and then begins to thicken as its on its way out. That 0W-20 in the sample should have been changed far earlier. Also these 5W-20s in the oil samples in the video have way too much calcium for modern standards. API SP and ILSAC GF-6A should cut those down dramatically. Toyota found Calcium to contribute to LSPI which is bad juju for GTDI engines. Most oil formulations started to reduce calcium prior to API SP/ GF-6A (which came into market around May 2020).
@DuckMcDuckinson
@DuckMcDuckinson 2 жыл бұрын
Amsoil has done thousands of tests with their oil and they never once had LSPI.
@dfls5069
@dfls5069 2 жыл бұрын
I just saw an oil analysis of Total Quartz 7000 Semi Syn 10W40 and it's calcium was at 3773, Moli B 109, TBN 11, Zinc through the roof 1307... What does MoliB do for the oil ?
@hunhun9047
@hunhun9047 2 жыл бұрын
calcium, it's not good for the Api SP or LSPI Engine. It's very good some engine.
@dfls5069
@dfls5069 2 жыл бұрын
@@hunhun9047 All engine oils have some calcium. What's the max amount of calcium an engine oil should have?
@jd646
@jd646 8 ай бұрын
Molyb is anti wear
@ojaichuck
@ojaichuck 3 жыл бұрын
What do the various adfifotives do? Also, wjat are the syandard debiations? Aversges can be misleading.
@FoolsAmongUs
@FoolsAmongUs 7 ай бұрын
Semper Fortis Brother USN(RET)
@freebehindbars8654
@freebehindbars8654 8 ай бұрын
What were the TBN numbers? Which had the best base oil? With better base, additives aren’t always necessary.
@BW-kv9wj
@BW-kv9wj 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never tested Redline before but I have tested Amsoil thru Blackstone. My oil sample was from a new car with only 3000 miles. I have noticed some discrepancies between your sample and my sample even though yours is virgin. Molybdenum in my sample is 311 while it’s 154 in your sample. How is mine higher after 3000 miles? My magnesium is 709 and yours is 14. My zinc is 771 and yours is 761. How does my zinc go up 10 points after 3000 miles? My calcium is 1351 and yours is 3356. Why such a drastic drop after 3000 miles? My silicon is 60 and yours is 3. My phosphorus is 711 and yours is 737. Your virgin TBN is 11.2 and my TBN is 5.0 after 3000 miles in a brand new car. My flashpoint was the same 425 after 3000 miles. And I used the same oil. Amsoil Signature Series 0W20. I don’t think the 0W20 vs 5w20 should have different additive amounts. Anyway, next time send Blackstone a virgin sample of Amsoil and don’t tell them what kind of oil it is. Or tell them it’s Castrol Syntec. Let’s see if the virgin sample is the same. I’m not too sure about the accuracy of their analysis??? The discrepancies just don’t make sense.
@MACTFordEdge
@MACTFordEdge 3 жыл бұрын
Because the additives get used up during use and I ran my oils to 10-12K miles vice changing it at 3K. Anyone can get great results at 3K miles in testing on walmart oil so your testing is way too early to even show if the oil is any good.
@BW-kv9wj
@BW-kv9wj 3 жыл бұрын
@@MACTFordEdge That’s the discrepancy. If additives are used up during use, than why is my Molybdenum, silicon and Zinc higher than your virgin sample?
@MACTFordEdge
@MACTFordEdge 3 жыл бұрын
@@BW-kv9wj Because you have residual from other oils or the formulation was changed. IT would be anything that was in the engine previously. Residual additives remain when doing oil changes from one brand to another.
@MACTFordEdge
@MACTFordEdge 3 жыл бұрын
@@BW-kv9wj If you do not like it go out pay to have your oils tested then make a video and stop sitting on your sofa and do something.
@djl0fne
@djl0fne 2 жыл бұрын
Viscosity is the most critical parameter, zinc concentration is not a fair comparison how the zinc performs is critical
@dfls5069
@dfls5069 2 жыл бұрын
This redline oil is excellent stuff no doubt.. won't the higher zinc levels in the oil harm the catalytic converter though ?
@MrCROBosanceros
@MrCROBosanceros 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I'm wondering. Red Line looks like excellent oil to protect the engine. The only two standard brands of oils from the North American market available in Germany with 100% Synthetic labels are the Amsoil Signature Series and some types of Red Line Synthetic oil. The engine oils not made from PAO stock base are not allowed to use 100% Synthetic labels. They can only label those Full Synthetic or Synthese only.
@toddbob55
@toddbob55 3 жыл бұрын
I ran conventional oil in my 1991 Ford Ranger ...sold it with 240,000 miles and the guy i sold it to still drives it in 2021...... High Price expensive oils are not needed.
@clb_52
@clb_52 3 жыл бұрын
High price oil is never needed in older engines only new engines
@rollymignacca4821
@rollymignacca4821 2 жыл бұрын
That's right my friend .
@HiTechOilCo
@HiTechOilCo 8 ай бұрын
@toddbob55 - AMSOIL synthetic motor oils can save substantial sums of money in reduced oil change costs and improved fuel economy. It's the cheap oils that are expensive.
@videomaniac108
@videomaniac108 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the Amsoil is like fine wine, improving with age.
@hunhun9047
@hunhun9047 2 жыл бұрын
Red line, Long interval change and more protection.
@shanepipkin4041
@shanepipkin4041 3 жыл бұрын
redline wins moly zinc phos and ester its clear
@pfoxhound
@pfoxhound 3 жыл бұрын
If formula was changed, what use of this information? Historical? Calcium higher than 1000 - can cause I'm direct injection detonation between rings. (Fresh information ~2yo). Too much is not good.
@raynabozny2338
@raynabozny2338 Жыл бұрын
AMSOIL
@moon-light1354
@moon-light1354 7 ай бұрын
Amsoil is 100 % synthetic, Red Line is not, Remember manufacturers can legally get by with only about 25 % synthetic and call it Full synthetic don't be fooled, this oil comparison is not apples to apples. Do the research if it matters to you..
@ryanhill7318
@ryanhill7318 4 ай бұрын
That's not correct Redline high performance oils are mainly Ester based pure synthetic oils
@frasiec
@frasiec Жыл бұрын
Amsoil renewal is waved if you buy $500 worth
@MACTFordEdge
@MACTFordEdge Жыл бұрын
Yeah. In this economy that is a dog barking up the wrong tree. Folks are not going to go that route. some will but they are the minority.
@GunsmithSid
@GunsmithSid 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the hard data of the virgin oil comparison. I thought the assumption of the sum of PPM demonstrated superiority of a particular oil formula was extremely naïve. The ‘observation’ that one oil required a membership to buy is just wrong and you demonstrated that by buying yours at a retail store. I have used both companies’ products in the past (probably 15 years ago were the last purchases), but as quality synthetic oils are now mainstream and available at good prices at common stores - I don’t find it necessary anymore. Good luck on your channel - cheers!
@shanepipkin4041
@shanepipkin4041 3 жыл бұрын
can you do the 4t wet clutch oils I've used amsoil mobile racing and 300v and 300v is by far the best as shifting goes and wondered why
@MySt0rmy
@MySt0rmy 3 жыл бұрын
Live in Canada and good luck on getting both of this oil ,painful
@wilsonmaldonado6948
@wilsonmaldonado6948 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never paid for my membership, my rep pays for it every year….
@MACTFordEdge
@MACTFordEdge Жыл бұрын
You are paying you just do not know it.
@flyboy6258
@flyboy6258 3 жыл бұрын
I take it you are not an Amsoil fanboy. What do you use in your vehicles?
@brianpeters867
@brianpeters867 3 жыл бұрын
He wont tell you. Probably uses Amsoil and just wants to gain views subs from the haters to get his channel moving.
@MACTFordEdge
@MACTFordEdge 3 жыл бұрын
I have documented and used over 30 brands and types of oils in my 3.5 Duratec that currently has over 333,000 miles on the original engine. The engine in my most recent video's has no varnishing and looks like it came out of the factory. The off the shelf oils were "synthetic marketed" oils you can buy anywhere. Even used John Deere Turf guard oil in the Duratec. Only use AMSOIL twice and one time the metal wear was the worst I have ever experienced in any oil testing.
@colinnicols5387
@colinnicols5387 6 ай бұрын
@@MACTFordEdgelikely due to the high detergency of the amsoil
@Maynardd
@Maynardd 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? You don’t need a membership to buy Amsoil. that is completely false information.
@MACTFordEdge
@MACTFordEdge 2 жыл бұрын
You are wrong. The oil I purchased at the Farm and Fleet is AMSOIL. It is sold via retail outlets. Do your research.
@johnnybgood5384
@johnnybgood5384 Жыл бұрын
Are local motorcycle shop carries both Amsoil and Redline.
@TexasNightRider
@TexasNightRider Күн бұрын
Amsoil is a great product but I don't like their business model.
@iamthenra1968
@iamthenra1968 3 жыл бұрын
Amsoil is superior by a long shot...
@MsPhuque
@MsPhuque 3 жыл бұрын
How so?
@jamesconnors8095
@jamesconnors8095 3 жыл бұрын
@@MsPhuque Real world testing
@MsPhuque
@MsPhuque 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesconnors8095 You mean amsoil's non-independent test claims? 😂
@MACTFordEdge
@MACTFordEdge 3 жыл бұрын
@@MsPhuque You mean AMSOIL 7-13 year old testing on engines that are not even used today.
@thetechlibrarian
@thetechlibrarian Жыл бұрын
@MarcLLN the whole line is not 100% synthetic though
@barrymitchell7732
@barrymitchell7732 3 жыл бұрын
Ok. My favorite driver is... Kyle BUSH. I have accidentally drifted into folks lane .
@gregkeller80
@gregkeller80 Жыл бұрын
Test MPT 30k
@johnmerkel756
@johnmerkel756 5 ай бұрын
Using old oil for this test invalidated the results
@jd646
@jd646 8 ай бұрын
Super tech oil 🛢️ all day
@barrymitchell7732
@barrymitchell7732 3 жыл бұрын
I found some free amsoil. But I still change my oil every year. I drive on a island. No race track here. So I ordered a race truck on mainland. Now I just have to travel. I hope it can pop wheelies.
@racingrpm1952
@racingrpm1952 3 жыл бұрын
Who Owns Redline these days ?
@MACTFordEdge
@MACTFordEdge 3 жыл бұрын
I think Phillips 66
@chief1960
@chief1960 Жыл бұрын
Why in the world would I pay an outrages price for eather one and Pennsoil is a lot cheaper and its blended and made with natural gas and less hydrocarbon dirt? $26.00 versis $50.00. Thanks great test Phone call did it all.
@MACTFordEdge
@MACTFordEdge Жыл бұрын
I only ran them to test them. Otherwise I run off the shelf synthetic oils
@HiTechOilCo
@HiTechOilCo 8 ай бұрын
Superior performing synthetic oils like AMSOIL can help to significantly reduce oil change costs and improve fuel economy. Cheap oils are expensive.
@chief1960
@chief1960 8 ай бұрын
Amsoil is only one percent better than Pennzoil cost 60%percent more and extended change ruins engine Quickly older oil contains acid/water/gasoline/and debris from cold starting want to kill engine use extended oil changes ala Amsaoil.
@darrylsjodin7184
@darrylsjodin7184 7 ай бұрын
@@chief1960Not true, I’ve put 300,000 miles on engines with 15,000 mile oil changes on Amsoil and the engines ran like new.
@craigbadder4372
@craigbadder4372 3 жыл бұрын
You ready for triax oil result ????. Is tribodyn for real ?????????
@maxxbenzz7842
@maxxbenzz7842 8 ай бұрын
Wow. People are obsessed with oil. Just put any full synthetic in and change it on time. Geez🙄
@jd646
@jd646 8 ай бұрын
😅
@Neo.Ibarra9281
@Neo.Ibarra9281 5 ай бұрын
Yes i like the colors of redline oils and it lasts a long time compared to cheaper oils.
@johnb1658
@johnb1658 8 ай бұрын
You it’s so clear you don’t know anything about oil. The lab numbers don’t tell anything about performance. Lab numbers are good for seeing how your oil is aging but it doesn’t tell you “the best oil” by any means. You need a balance of additives! More additives means you actually get less oil by volume!
@highrzr
@highrzr 3 жыл бұрын
For me, Amsoil is like Amway. They have good stuff, but its over priced and you can get better overall products for less money. If only because of the MLM crap with Amsoil, that I'll never use any of their products.
@brianpeters867
@brianpeters867 3 жыл бұрын
Unless you are involved in it, you sont fully understand the fundamentals. It is not multi level marketing. It works in a way like that but its more about giving you the freedom to market and no ‘major buy ins’. Most MLM schemes require a huge buy in and monthly/quarterly minimums. Amsoil has nothing like that.
@Maynardd
@Maynardd 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment is absolutely correct. It is by far over priced. The only reason it is this way is because the “Amsoil dealers” have to make a profit because they won’t sell it at your local store. which is stupid… And don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
@grominwithrob1339
@grominwithrob1339 4 ай бұрын
This video was a complete rejection of anything that vaguely represents anything remotely useful. You read a cue card on additives that you don’t know or understand the relationship between the chemical composition or the relationship they have with use in the real world. Redline got knocked out of Project Farms oil championship in the second round by Pennzoil. The Pennzoil that beat it out was there ultra synthetic which is very good oil. AMSOIL beat the Pennzoil as well as every other oil in an assortment in real world tests. Quite a few of the oils out performed the redline in the wear tests. More isn’t better, better is better and AMSOIL is just better at performing the duties required by oils in real world conditions. The composition values prove it has a composition, the real world tests prove AMSOIL is superior. Redline is still better oil than Mobile one or Valvoline but there are still run of the mill brands that can be plucked of the shelf at Walmart that can resist wear and just flat out perform Redline and for less money. The Pennzoil ultra synthetic that out performed the Redline is about $40 for 6qts and an excellent oil and an even better value. The oil guy channel from the guy oil companies and racing teams contract to formulate oils gives it high regards and recommends it. Not trying to pee on anyone’s parade but let actual use and testing be a guide, not a cue card listing vague composition. A greasy turd could be listed under anti-wear package!😂😂. Don’t mistake Redlines talk for Amsoil’s walk. Have a great day everyone and get out and enjoy the tools and toys you drive. 👍👍
@philipfarnam6013
@philipfarnam6013 3 жыл бұрын
Yawn
@chief1960
@chief1960 11 ай бұрын
Amsol is keeping that they hold there amount of full synthetic oil is secret DAU UGH REDLINE WINS#1 hands down.
@lylereinier4989
@lylereinier4989 10 ай бұрын
BS if Amsoil was not willing to talk and give data on their oil.
@roidster4401
@roidster4401 11 ай бұрын
Scamsoil
@MsPhuque
@MsPhuque 3 жыл бұрын
Scamsoil uses deceptive advertising. Show me some independent data scamsoil.
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