Reddit and Twitter Need to Go: Why We Should Move Back to Smaller Forums

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Reddit has been a shit-show lately. The CEO is actively trying to destroy everything that gave the platform value... and Twitter has turned into one of the worst sites since Musk took over. If you don't have Twitter blue, nobody sees your posts... and it all feels like forum drama where the head moderator is having some kinda mid-life melt down. However, most of us are just along for the ride and do not actually care about Elon.
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[@dimitriid]

A lot of people think their world would crumble without social networks but that's just because they're built around addiction tactics: Take is from some of us Elder Milennials we used to do just fine in the days were you had to go find people on IRC channels or hand over your icq number. Nothing was fundamentally different in terms of staying in touch with friends and internet culture, except for not having to deal with the damned corporations all of the time.

[@damzelfly]

A quote from wired: "First, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die"

[@zerphase]

What I've noticed is large Twitter accounts receive zero moderation for saying that stuff small accounts get banned for.

[@damjanmozetic]

Well said. As many other users have realized, or are beginning to realize, social media sites are really imploding on themselves. For marketing my game, I will begin to redirect all of the content to the game's website, and to a forum from there.

[@teksyndicate]

I'm going to try to do the same. I've been reading that newsletters/emails and wishlists are the 1 and 2 things on the list for sales, so I'll start working on that. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help spread the word on Call Of Saregnar.

[@Synthematix]

GREAT NEWS you are right, all this social media BS needs to go away forever

[@RandyHanley]

Your channel is my favorite tech KZbin channel. You've introduced me to tons of cool Steam stuff, sales, affordable software as well! And you always post the best links. Oh yeah, and Vivaldi browser! Great recommend from you, years ago! You were the first to cover it so well. Your alternative recommendations are great because they're just to "be alternative for the purpose of being alternative" - They're actually super useful and explained! -Randy from Michigan

[@Nintega2K]

Thing is, having so many different forum sites means needing so many different accounts. Not only was needing to make an account EVERY TIME you came across a new forum site you wanted to discuss things in tiring as hell, but keeping track of all of those accounts & sites was even more tiring The ideas of Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, etc are all VERY sound on paper, but in our capitalist society that's due to heavily change course at this point, things were bound to get turned upside down & inside out at some point

[@XantheFIN]

Account thing is totally your problem. If you have too many things in your life which you cannot handle its yours problem. Be organized or dont. Be more focused with your life.

[@SmallLegacy]

I suppose that is one of the advantages of social medias like Twitter and Reddit, the convenience factor is a big one. But generally if you have your browser set up to remember login details and save cookies it shouldn't be that much of a problem unless you're using private browsing.

[@urgamecshk]

Bro you use the same username so you can build communities everywhere....

[@teksyndicate]

Federation. On easymode.im you have your account... and you can communicate with anyone on dozens of websites (forums, social platforms, etc.) fediverse.party/en/miscellaneous/

[@onlinescammer8291]

We have all the "why." What we're lacking is "how."

[@michiganjack1337]

Yeah this centralized internet social experiment has failed - I’m all for going back to the more traditional forums. I always liked Digg (it’s earlier incarnations) I discovered a lot of stuff through that. But I never got caught up in Reddit, it was just never a place I wanted to be.

[@Gr00t]

I only use Reddit for troubleshooting things and i fucking love that i can search basically any problem and they will have an answer. I dont want to lose that.

[@Jubeininja1221]

the internet was so much better back then...Im not sure how old you are but the internet was 10x better in the late 90s and early 2000s....IT WAS so great

[@GGwithkamatis]

​@@Jubeininja1221forums are dead tho. All the niche groups are in reddit.

[@fafa1648]

BBS era was amazing. I'm so happy I had the chance to be part of that time in computing. All local folks getting together and we'd frequently have BBS meet ups in person as well. Was a wonderful time to be a nerd.

[@mhmrules]

BBSes are alive and well! I joined The Quantum Wormhole almost two years ago, and I love messing around the message boards and file server.

[@alanl9497]

My favorite "forum" was Yahoo! Answers. It was just so active... Not sure exactly why it closed down. But I swear, there were so many wizards on that website.

[@itsdeonlol]

I'm glad it's dying. Social Media is dangerous and toxic...

[@darudesandstorm7002]

i personally loathe reddit/facebook/discord for (among other things) killing off the small forums i used to frequent (local/regional car audio, car detailing, make+model-specific forums) but theyre just too convenient for the average user that i dont see people reverting to the older style of smaller, focused forums.

[@torguy5763]

Greed clouds good judgement, this is the curse of these greedy wealthy people, they don't realize they can make even more money and fan loyalty if they let go of greed and think long term, and that would be a huge win for both the consumer and corporation.

[@martianprince3299]

what's happening is that GPT users are training it (and it's also training itself) by sucking all of the internet's content like a black hole

[@ImBooX2]

We did a lot of BBSing. Then things like Prodigy came along. I belonged to a group on there where we had experts on everything. Ask anything and we had an answer. We had programmers, electronics and computer people (I was one), trainers is things like Autocad, a coffee expert even who traveled the world buying coffee for Folgers, and many many more. We made the Prodigy newsletter in a byline written by the Prodigy head. Then they had to start getting greedy and raising the cost. We all left, nearly 200 of us. Decades latter I have found a few of them, we are all retired nowadays. We have fond memories of before the greed and us meeting in person here and there.

[@MapleJokerRofl]

Not really.. don’t want to go over 50 forums and having to register to even read a post to see an answer to a problem …

[@spacefacegaming]

You're right about how people's are what they are doing on Twitter its basically toxic for what people are doing its wrong

[@killervacuum]

I do hope that when new independent forums pop up, they use a reddit-like engine instead of the old forum format. Threaded replies are crucial.

[@FlyboyHelosim]

Literally one of the only reasons I keep my Facebook account is so I can go play detective and lookup the profiles of women I meet on dating apps (which is a whole other ball game) to see if they truly are single and if they show any signs of lying or crazy. And I'm not just being petty or paranoid, as I have caught several women out.

[@urgamecshk]

Bro you literally are. How do you find out their last name?

[@FlyboyHelosim]

@@urgamecshk I literally am what? Sometimes their username is their full real name (dumb, I know) and other times simply searching for their first name but narrowing it down to which town or city they say they come from is all you need as more often than not their profile pics are the same across all apps.

[@praetorxyn]

I used a Ridge wallet for a year or two, and ended up switching to the Ekster leather-ish one for two reasons. One, the lever makes it way easier to get cards. Two, I needed some "regular slots" to put things like insurance cards, social security card, etc., that I feel would just get torn up if you put them in with the credit cards, and the Ekster leather one has a couple of those. I spent a fair bit of time on forums, but much, much more on IRC. That's why I like Discord so much, it's basically just fancy IRC. Still having fun on EasyMode when I remember to look in there. Since I have it in a browser tab I tend to forget about it, as Calkey doesn't seem to have a desktop client.

[@apollyon9946]

The death of forums was so sad. New internet feels so lifeless. I remember several little niche sites that were tight knit communities back in the 2000s. Everyone knew each other. I still have contact with my "forum" buddies and we often reminisce about old times. Strange because we can still recall people by their exact usernames and the shenanigans they got up to over a decade ago even though we never knew their face or real names. I don't see communites like that on the internet anymore.

[@HellYeahKimballsBBQ]

Holy sh!t, i forgot about Vampire Freaks! I miss Myspace and that simple sh!t

[@seanpalmer8472]

Decentralization is important for the overall health and resiliency of the Internet. It's amusing to me how often "Twitter is down" or "G Suite is down" is in the news. Such "news" is a symptom of centralization...and over the last decade or so, there has been a ton of centralization. It's definitely past time for the pendulum to swing back the other way.

[@PissbucketRoyale]

I use youtube 5 hrs a day every day and never bought anything from the ads. I was always taught advertised products are scams.

[@SilkyNoah]

Miss the days of niche forums as well. Always feel nostalgic thinking back to the interactions I had on various forums for tech and games, it all felt so organic. These days Reddit is the only major platform I still have an account with and aside from the handful of subs I actually participate in, I don’t care to explore much. Home page is just lazy political bait, Twitter reposts, and astroturfed garbage. The complete opposite of what I want and used to get on forums. The internet has become the cable TV of this century.

[@KREllis-vr1ix]

A non tech hobby is essential. For me, it is painting landscapes. Im trying hard to just delete all social media. I guess im a hypocrite in many ways because I spend hours a day on YT.

[@TheNatestEver]

My favorite KZbinr ❤

[@solocamo3654]

Unfortunately I think that ship has sailed. People are addicted and another large one will fill the void, unfortunately. I'm still active on many "proper" forums and have been 20+ years (with a lot in that time shutting down). The younger generations won't run to them.

[@Malcontentmatt]

I despise Huffman too but the r/jailbait thing was that subreddit making him a mod before you had to accept the role. At the time, anyone could create a despicable subreddit and make anyone a mod with the click of a mouse.

[@LBP2Saperoth]

I feel Lemmy is a good mix between a private form and reddit. People can set up their own but other users from others can see, post, and interact from other Lemmy servers.

[@teksyndicate]

I think the fediverse truly is the answer... but Mastodon is confusing to many, as is the fediverse. Terrible marketing department! lol.

[@GGwithkamatis]

​@@teksyndicateI got fediverse account but I still don't know how it works.

[@spretten]

I've always loved and used forums

[@SmallLegacy]

I always love it when you upload, your videos my favourite type of videos on here that I love to watch. If you see this could you do videos on a alternative to KZbin and alternatives to Discord?

[@JewTube001]

Best YT alt at the moment is Rumble. It works and looks fairly good and has a decent amount of content and activity. However it does a right wing slant which may turn off some people here.

[@nobodypersonsomeone]

Im someone that doesn't bother with much social media apart from fb. Can someone fill me in what is happening with reddit? Has something happened or are people just leaving?

[@Diablokiller999]

Really miss the times the internet was for geeks and nerds only. Now everyones mother and her dog is on social media, gets upset about BS someone said to make money out of controversy and believe in lies spread by troll armys to disrupt whole societies.

[@Machistmo]

I started on BBS sites like Dolph's World in Chicago and Star Control. i miss forums that make sense. I didnt like Twitter's moderation b4 Musk and I left the day he tool control. I dont use Reddit much anymore.

[@unitybeing777]

Make more muzik and I'll buy it to support you, that's my 2 cents. Either wise I can't really support as I'm in a tight gov budget. I love your music so much that I do sacrifice to buy it and keep it in my safe place, I got a few albums from back in the day. You have a future with your muzik 4sure. I wish you good luck with the forum social network, it's promising, I can't join yet until I see more Light than Mr Satan. I'll support Tek Syndicate all the way and share with friends. A shame it's shadowbanned. I bought a few t-shirts from back in the day, maybe I'll buy another to remind me of you Logan. Keep safe and alive for us all. You do good works, thank u.

[@trashtronics1700]

Well everyone always goes to one place so there wont ever be smaller forms again

[@127ibenedict]

Thank you.

[@taroootaroo9657]

logan is my mental wealth.

[@hellgeist_]

Are you at a Spencers, or is that your collectables shop?

[@teksyndicate]

As if Spencer's had cool stuff like this

[@hellgeist_]

@@teksyndicate Ok then Hot Topic

[@feralshad0w]

ebaumsworld was sold and the layout changed.. then it fell apart. It is still good for memes, but its not the same it used to be. I still check in a couple times a week, but this was after a 15 year hiatus.

[@BenExell]

Yh I miss those days but people like convenience and using the big apps is convenient

[@ZakPs]

Why are compromised individuals always put in positions of power.....

[@Sonic_1000]

Totally agree!

[@Kramer7969]

Isn't crowdview a search engine? Like an old school search engine?

[@DyslexicGamer]

Twitter is dying and so is Reddit? Well then let me salute my fallen enemy, Ppppppppppppppppppppppppp!

[@manfromsinope]

Great vid - you mentioned something about a game jam you partook in during Father's Day weekend? That would be a great vid to share if possible?

[@teksyndicate]

Indeed. you can play it here: itch.io/jam/advjam2023/rate/2100625

[@TheFissionchips]

corporate social-ist media - interceding in the natural organic order of human communication for profit and surveillance.

[@tristfularcadia]

I do miss the days of forms, much more active it felt more involved than readdit does.

[@JSGilbert]

If you can’t figure out exactly what the product is, it’s probably you.

[@bradleyokane]

I came off social media tbh only use KZbin nowdays

[@churchking2527]

I don't agree with you about corporations per say, they evolved. "The Corporations" were just websites back then. Facebook, Google, Amazon... they weren't any different than any other website at the time. They just did the same thing everyone else did, but better. Now they are corporations. Advertising was Pop-ups and spyware for the most part, it didn't become proper banner ads for a long time. One aspect you should have mentioned though was text messaging on your phone (that was huge when it came out), ICQ, MS messenger, AIM, and even MySpace to some degree. That's really what was replaced by social media, chat programs.

[@HyperHorse]

I hate small wallets.

[@Tinyflower1]

The only forum I used as a kid was gaiaonline, because it included dress up for my avatar and mini games xD

[@timit2thelimit]

Another fantastic (and nuanced) take. You are a national treasure, dude 🖤

[@ZeroRacer]

Mr Mastodon of the New England Mastadons

[@JewTube001]

lmao i had a vampire freaks profile

[@ChristmaGift]

love you Logan

[@teksyndicate]

love you too, Christmas elf

[@bullshitvendor]

its "the human experience" 😂

[@lunaskye4272]

i only really use tumblr these days. i'd love to see a return of forums tho

[@RandyHanley]

Not sure Twitter is really dying, are they? Reddit for sure is / at the moment, if the CEO will stop being a tyrant to his mods/users. Elon has an ego too for sure, but if he distances himself more, i bet they do much better.

[@feasttree]

Low key miss vampire freaks.

[@jantestowy123]

100%

[@Erisponsibility]

Imma just vibe on tumblr

[@jhonshephard921]

too late, bought by another company

[@Erisponsibility]

@@jhonshephard921 true but after years of terrible management, the current management actually isn't doing a terrible job and seems to understand the userbase well enough.

[@paintitblack4199]

Yes...Yes...YES!!!!

[@darkphotonstudio]

This is unrelated, but when I watch your videos, the related content sidebar always has dating stuff. Idk what that's says but it seems weird. Also yes, social media, burn it to the ground.

[@Lilrockerdude13]

Bring back TS forums?

[@teksyndicate]

I don't really want another hardware community. They always seem to attract a lot of elitism and regressive political nonsense. I'd only be interested in culture, retro tech and gaming, and such. Which is why I made easymode.im.

[@taroootaroo9657]

logan should do vape like more creatively.

[@taroootaroo9657]

logan should take drug more! now!

[@kilobitz8639]

i don't think twitter is dying.

[@Austinredstoner]

Twitter is not dead you don't need a Twitter blue subscription to use Twitter. A lot of features have been added this year like you can now have a subscription tab and you can finally have tweets longer than 140 isn't that an absolute win on Twitter obviously with the amount of perks you get with Twitter blue especially blue checkmark I can say Twitter blue is worth it 100%.

[@teksyndicate]

It isn't dead. It's dying. They prioritize twitter blue over all else. I've spoken to some of my peers and we have seen a 50-90% drop in views since musk. Longer tweets happened in 2017, so that isn't a recent innovation. Twitter blue is a scam that is being forced upon us.

[@numberz010]

I use reddit and Twitter often but honestly you're right, fuck em. I'd probably be happier if I stopped using them

[@helloimatapir]

Reddit is not going anywhere. It's convenience and accessibility are huge factors. Nobody wants to sign up for multiple forums like the old days. The Reddit "blackout" failed and the current rebellion by mods and users posting meme content as a protest will fail too.

[@zonnodon163]

doubt

[@spaceorbust6636]

I had to laugh how you complain about corporatized social media, then hit us with a wallet sponsor ad, then right after that an embedded ad

[@teksyndicate]

What does a wallet have to do with corporate social media? We live in a society where money is required. I'm allowed to critique this... And I'm allowed to make money to eat. This isn't a gotcha.

[@ColumbiaBeet]

@@teksyndicate Hahaha, I know right. Never fails that there's a comment like this whenever someone criticizes capitalism even a little bit. "Herp derp, hOw CAn U sPEnD MoNEy wHeN u H8 m0neez!?!?!" Not an ounce of nuance to this kinda thinking.

[@ProsecutorValentine]

The line between someone who craft wallets and live from it while offering partnership for advertisement; is distant from corporated medias that indoctrinates the mind. Using this as a copeout to tell yourself it's okay to fall to the system is but a convinient excuse far away from the truth. See it more objectively.

[@spaceorbust6636]

@@teksyndicate I’m not attacking you, saying you cannot critique a capitalist society, or reaching for a gotcha moment. I just thought the coincidence of the complaints about monetized social media feeds being followed up with ads was comical. I’ll take this moment to join you in critique of social media: context and tone of text based interactions is poor, and people often take benign comments as threats. It’s unfortunate.

[@TheMightyByron]

4chan 4 lyfe