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This new batch of ai-powered websites, apps, #chatgpt, #openai and similar, has changed things faster than maybe anything. This will displace workers, change industries, and allow control to be further consolidated. The question is: will this be good for society? Who will this benefit? Let's discuss.
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[@cockedandglocked]

“Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.” - Dr. Ian Malcom

[@SpoopySquid]

Techno-utopians: In the future, all the dull tedious work will be outsourced to machines so humans can focus on art and self-enrichment Tech companies: We've outsourced art and creativity to machines so our -serfs- employees won't be distracted from their dull tedious work

[@ihavetubes]

the sad part is nothing will be left not even bread crumbs.

[@slcsystems]

Absolutely bang on Logan, im a computer engineer for 30 years and I think AI is big pile of crap and should be scrapped straight away, this technology will help no one and just create more misery. To starve people of creativity and learning is a crime.

[@lanpartylandlord6123]

the merging of the tech oligopoly and the US gov through super PAC's and corporate personhood has been detrimental

[@Leviathan268]

Understatement of the decade

[@pear7828]

Yeah, I think that we are turning into a true Corporatocracy It's ashame it seems like most ppl can't think past monopoly..etc Corporatocracy & Oligopoly are concepts they really should be paying attention to within in our governments & the corporations. This something that should never happen.

[@Leviathan268]

@@pear7828 Yup, I think a lotta people hear something like "anti-trust" and think "anti-monopoly". It's really more "anti market fixing". I think it's part of a broader blindness people have to the idea that a powerful enough business (ie. massive corporation) can collaborate corruply with other such businesses/govornment to fix the economic environment in their favor.

[@ThisOldChris]

Another thing you might want to look into is the insane amount of power those systems require to reply to a simple question.

[@effexon]

lol one human at street could reply same, pretty similar answer.....

[@EchoLog]

Yeah, computing power per hour per CALORIE my autistic ass is a more effective tool.

[@Shvmadogg]

Still one of the best tech KZbin channels out there. Keep it up :)

[@jaffarhatami3421]

would be better if the fallout between him and Wendel never happened

[@BeardedHeavy]

@@jaffarhatami3421 It is what it is..

[@Jubeininja1221]

@@jaffarhatami3421 what happened? I have not watched this channel for awhile

[@GENXJOPLIN]

​@@Jubeininja1221this is my first video and I didn't know he existed prior to ten mins ago but am a new fan and have subbed. Pls spill the tea

[@azathell]

We do have a name... Large language models or LLMs. In Spanish we are even more precise calling them 'modelos de lenguaje estadístico' or statistic language models, which explain in their name that they only calculate the most probable answer instead on making a new one. AI is a nice commercial name that captures people by making them think that we are in the 'future' . More people calling them by its real name the more conscience about the problem.

[@Mynestrone]

Refreshing to hear someone in tech talk about it from a perspective of respecting peoples welfare and expression. The bosses should be exiled to the moon for betraying humanity.

[@mosamaster]

Similar situation when Jobs from US and Europe were out sourced to the 3rd world nations like India. But this time it is not to other humans.

[@pixelambience1767]

Biggest difference this time is it won’t be mostly manual/industrial and/or low paid work. It’s gonna hit the middle class, university educated just as hard.

[@TheDarkKratoz]

My absolute least favourite recurring conversation since the art-gen "AI"s became a thing is the classic "WELL HUMANS LOOK AT ART AND THEN MAKE ART BASED ON ART THAT THEY'VE SEEN, HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN A PROGRAM DOING IT?" and like how is it that people are that unhinged in their understanding of algorithms and the human brain?

[@user-yn5te8vj5j]

I'm learning AI for one reason, solve real world problems that will make people more productive and NOT replace them. Right now, most developers are using it for entertainment and creative image generator which I think is doing more harm than good. Thinks like deepfakes, text to image, task automation will do more damage to society if regulations are not in place. ML now specially NLP models are advance enough to replace jobs and this is where I hope regulators should focus their attention.

[@Sonic_1000]

Glad I'm in blue collar construction and heavy equipment operations. Feels a bit safer than white collar.

[@BlazeingGoldReviews]

the fact that you're still around kinda baffles me if im honest. keep up the good work man. btw i believe AI and Humans can coexist if it's done correctly.

[@chungang7037]

This is my reality already. My side gig was editing, this semester I should have had 10 jobs to edit by now, and I have had 2. Friends at other companies still have their job, but only because the boomers running them haven't caught on yet. One friend is using chat gpt to do his translation work, and he does one pass to fix what it can't translate well. He is already one of those prompt technicians of the future, and the only thing keeping him in the job right now is boomers that struggle with email attachments. But how long can he keep said job before a younger CEO comes in and knows he himself could do the prompting, or pay my friend for 1/7th the time needed to do the same work. Thanks for the video, one of the few that gets what is going on. Our society is not going to transition fast enough, there is no UBI plan or regulation that is going to stop this, at least not in the short term.

[@EchoLog]

If your work is touched by AI like that, I don't believe in it. I'm going orthodox. Amish? Jewish? Buddhist? Idk I'm cajun. But this world we're heading towards isn't for me.

[@chungang7037]

@@EchoLog if things go as bad as people say, then AI is going to touch most jobs. Mcdonalds and plumbers should be ok, for a while.

[@pear7828]

😒Theses Executives think they're positioning themselves to be more profitablity & efficiency, but they don't realize even the Owners & Executives of these companies can be potentially be replaced. "It's what the investors wanted"

[@JewTube001]

replace an owner? how does that work? only way you can do that legally is by giving them a lot of money.

[@Onihikage]

17:57 That art piece was specifically commissioned from Ben Moran by author Selkie of the web serial & book series _Beneath The Dragoneye Moons._ The final chapter of book 9 was actually uploaded today! Ben Moran has been Selkie's cover artist since the series began over 2 years ago. If you noticed that was before AI image gen started getting good, congratulations! You're smarter than a Reddit moderator! If you also noticed Selkie has written 9 books in under three years: Yes, the man is insane. Very entertaining books, though. We certainly aren't at the point where AI could replace him or Ben without some amount of human intervention.

[@fifthgear93]

2:17 Oh my god this brings me back. Back when I was growing up, getting into tech, forums were everything. Roughly from 2007 to 2013 I was on all sorts of gaming and tech forums all the time. Now it's different. I don't believe I've written a single forum post in the last 5 years, probably more. Kinda nostalgic of that time tbh. Going to tigerdirect youtube channel to see the newest review of the Radeon 3870 or Nvidia 8800GT by Logan, see how many fps it gets on Crysis. 😂The Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 was like the best CPU to have for gaming at that time. Damn I'm old, even though I ain't really old, I feel old. Gen Z will never understand the experience we had on the internet 15 years ago and how we socialized. I found friends in these forums that I later met in real life and are still friends with to this day. There was no instagram or tiktok, people weren't glued in to their phones all the time. We did LAN parties or gathered in gaming clubs back in like 2003-2005. It just ain't the same.

[@pcsecuritychannel]

Chat GPT and AI is still quite useless if you want to create something good (I've tried it). It only works for large corporations that want generic solutions for millions of people done to the lowest possible standard.

[@younlink]

Like all programs without human intervention the IA got self feed getting stuck in a loop

[@ether92]

As an artist myself I can't help but worry since the real meaning of doing art is being replaced by some AI. Though something that kind of amuse me is how some artist praise AI and say how much they gonna enjoy using it, I suppose at that point they'll stop being artists.

[@Flackon]

If you think the real meaning of art is replaced by an AI, then you didn't put much value in art in the first place. Art is not the labor or toil of physically generating something, nor is it the practice or effort one puts into learning technique. It's endlessly amusing how seemingly rational humans whould rather strip artists of the credit than admit that synthetic image generators are just a new artistic tool as valid as any of the currently existing ones.

[@ether92]

@@Flackon TL. Not an artist.

[@solocamo3654]

@@ether92 As an artist who are you to say what is art? Perhaps I deem your work as not being arc as it is too generic?

[@teksyndicate]

@@solocamo3654 your opinion doesn't matter. Even if you hate the human-made art, it is still art. What we have now is not true ai art, it's a database plagiarizing real artists. There is no real "ai art," right now and there is no such thing as an ai artist. AI can make art when we reach the singularity... which is a long way off. At the same time, our current ai tools can be useful for things.

[@solocamo3654]

​@@teksyndicate My opinion, just as everyone else's. That said, I am not a fan of calling AI generation art by any stretch as I was playing Devil's advocate in regards to the term itself. The person I responded to initially is a self claimed "artist" claiming someone else isn't. I can piss on a wall and call it art as far as reality goes as the term is way too broad these days. More on point - Do photographers not use touch up programs? Was there no backlash from artists when photoshop became wildly popular? Is autotune "art" when it's not the true vocals? The plagiarizing I 100% agree with is not right, but at the same time, unfortunately, that ship has sailed. I only use AI for upscaling old images but it's still got a long ways to go and personally, unless it's from pen/brush directly to paper, I don't really consider anything digitally assisted as true art.

[@basilp5179]

Guy points to some random dystopian book to defend cultural destruction? Huh? Talk about nihilism...

[@teksyndicate]

I have looked everywhere and can't find this book. It's a clear violation of human rights, so you'd think there's be a controversy around it. I'm starting to wonder if this isn't something billionaires say to one another and it has been legitimized in their circles so much that they think it's from a book.

[@basilp5179]

@@teksyndicate I wonder if it's a vague reference to a popular dystopian novel like A Brave New World, The Giver, or 1984 where procreation is at the very least highly controlled or done in labs. It's weird, but not surprising that these foreboding tales are being idealized in some way. This is exactly why they were written (to show what was coming), after all, but the banality of evil (I believe that's an Eichmann phrase) is sometimes surprising, even though it is expected. What is most surprising is that the people doing this stuff are so unlike the previous... globalists, you could call them. Men like Kissinger, Wells, Brzezinski, Quigly, Rockefeller, Huxley, etc. were extremely well educated men of culture who were nonetheless trying to move the world in a direction that laid the ground work for this tragic scenario.

[@bonked9426]

Well, the AI-tech "enthusiasts" did say to "replace humanity" not to "help humanity" no matter how much caramelized sugars they added on top of their words. "Only those who uses the technology will survive & progress while those who complains are left behind." Is the same word they keep repeating against those who are very skeptical towards the advancement of AI. So really, now that there's nothing much to lose that your job is eventually going to be robbed off you. What do we have anyway? Beside going back to the "primitive" and do "primitive things"? Is it really that odd, dear "tech enthusiasts" that there are some people in the world who prefers the simplest ways of life? Away from social media, tech, even electricity. Now the thing is as of right now the numbers of these people are still small. But what if you make millions out of them, millions of those whose jobs you have stolen from them, millions of those who no longer have nothing to lose? Yeah, technology is great isn't it?

[@methodinsane]

Honestly I think we'll move back to individual smaller communities, as Reddit and other sites go further down the corporate hole.

[@Thunderhawk51]

And yet, this is still just the teeny tiny tip of the iceberg...

[@87Kaylen]

I know "PI" has been already taken, but how can "Predictive Intelligence" get coined!?

[@Pushing_Pixels]

The Masters will never allow the courts to rule this way, but the truth is; if an "AI" is trained on material which is not public domain, and for which they do not have an explicit licence, the owner of that material has a right to royalties from everything that "AI" generates, as that "AI" would not function but for the illegal use of their intellectual property. Essentially, every owner of every sample used without permission, would be entitled to an ownership stake in that "AI" model, in lieu of paying the infringement penalties every single time the AI outputs something. Enforcing this, either through legislation or the courts, would probably see most "AI" have to re-train from scratch, unless they can account for every input that trained it. The only way for AI companies to avoid this issue is to only use training materials that are already in the public domain, and pay for anything else they need. But as things are, all the big generative AI are violating the property rights of countless people with every thing they output, and every one of those outputs is an individual infringement on the intellectual property of others, each liable for civil and potentially criminal penalties. But of course the courts will just wave them all through, and if they don't the politicians will.

[@Rafskat]

Book you mentioned is probably "Brave new world" by Aldous Huxley. But I'm not certain about it. Interestingly it was written in 1932. IMHO, quite a few books written in this era (between word wars) were truly ahead of its time. For example plays written by Čapek.

[@Tyler412324]

Probelm is where you draw the line for unique creativity. So many people draw inspiration from others to create their own things that its hard to determine what is really plagarised. For example, you could the a drawing someone made, sit it next to you and re-draw it to you're best ability. Is that considered you're own work since technically you drew it. What if instead of trying to make an exact copy, you move some pieces around in the picture. Then is it unique? A step further then, what if the for example you took the drawing of Mona Lisa and drew her riding a bike. Now surely its unique right? Now if you tell one of these programs to draw Mona Lisa riding a bike. Is that similar to what you did? Too many questions that one person can't make a decision on but its a good thought experiment.

[@teksyndicate]

My line will never charge: is the creator creating using intelligence or a database? Ai has no creativity.

[@jarman365]

Bro, your opening monologue made me click away, not because it is bad, to the contrary because this future scares me more than Terminator's Skynet. This will be reality.

[@j.d.4697]

"...ChatGPT doesn't actually understand the content of what it's saying..." Well so what? Neither do 50% of humans.

[@autofox1744]

"You are obsolete, Mister Wordsworth!"

[@jamesgoodwin3444]

"Utopia for realists" is probably the book the guy was talking about.

[@clwnpRon]

George Carlin said it best "The upper class: keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes. The middle class: pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor are there...just to scare the shit out of the middle class."

[@zeno99]

An IT department that relies entirely on ChatGPT is an incompetent IT department. It can be helpful, but to rely on it completely and forgoing SMEs is foolish.

[@kushagrakishore933]

16:16 - 16:54 maybe that's creativity in a nutshell

[@Actinium12]

Retroactive watching everything i missed from you, and to answer the question of if you have all the money and no one can do anything or buy anything: They will then slave away for scraps and be suppressed i suppose. It's looking back at the past and predicting the cycle... I do love it when you talk about these things :D fun to hear you talk about this.

[@lancemarchetti8673]

Great points brought forward in this video.

[@ManicMaximus]

I like these big picture videos that take on the human and societal implications of this strange world.

[@chinogambino9375]

I think this technology/code should be an exception to free speech protections. We regulate all sorts of dangerous industries and things like radio spectrum which would be destroyed by a free market. I honestly don't see this as any different. It could have been contained but for SD being made open source, maliciously done to foreclose any meaningful regulation even if it means having international competitors. Too late now though, the damage is done and even if commerical services are banned in the US we have China and Japan happy to operate unfettered. Despite Chinese regulation on labelling AI output it seems unenforcable. The UK is run by incompetant psychopaths ready to protect any AI company that headquarters there. There's a lot of delusion going around AI being a tool for creativity, new jobs and UBI. Workers gain nothing from this, there will be no new jobs and art will actually get worse as formerly high end visuals will cost less than breakfast cereal to commission. It won't even be a novelty, it'll be so normal its actually worthless and the people producing 'content' can't even claim to be the artists. I'm already feeling jaded by it now.

[@humanbeing8598]

It's not only big corporate that are greedy for money, even medium and small businesses are using these apps to save more money instead of hiring real employees with experience and talent. A lot of people who are lazy to learn or to do anything are very hyped over "AI" because they think it'll allow them to make things (that others spent decades to learn and hone) in no time and they don't care about ownership if it's AI that made it for them and they payed for it they can call it their own. I worked for an indie game studio where the so called character artist used character creator to generate the 3d models of the game and when I went to see his real work on artstation he practically had nothing that qualifies him for that title, on top of that the studio manager and founder used AI to make the protagonist concept art which really shocked me because I didn't hear about such a thing back then, so yeah many of those indie game studios are willing to use any tools to make their very mediocre games especially if they are not from the industry and have no idea what they are doing. AI fake-Art or as I call it F-art is the beginning of a new era of struggle, artists are going to loose their jobs and human art will die, maybe not in the foreseeable future, but unless measures are taken against the plagiarism that's happening by AI owners it'll become reality.

[@Pushing_Pixels]

They might want to be more careful about using AI image generators for commercial purposes. The intellectual property rights attached to AI generated images is still up in the air, and may be disputed. Whatever service they used may have trained its model on materials it didn't have permission to use, which would bring into question the ownership of everything it produces. That would then bring into question works based on those AI images.

[@humanbeing8598]

@@Pushing_Pixels yes, unless law makers intervene, I don't think that those who have no moral compass will care about intellectual property rights.

[@Kooooshball]

This is probably the most informative video on this.

[@nimlouth]

Last week I was talking with a friend and he asked me "why, really why are you a leftist anarchist?" and I just said "honestly, so I can be an honest punk when we finally reach cyberPUNK irl on a few decades..." then at least I can die as a friendly NPC instead of a corporate douche lmfao.

[@andrewmutavi590]

Been thinking about the same lately, awesome video as always

[@PraiseWorthyLife]

I remember you talking about your childhood a few years back... with that said.. How can you not see what you're currently talking about this future monetary/financial system as the 'Beast' System as described in the Bible?

[@coreviz]

The irony is that people are paying for gpt tokens, while this data is used to improve it. And very sad, that models are so expensive to train that only the very most rich companies are able to make new, improved, better ones. Not us. We can only hope for an "ad-blocker" to use a "leaked, but not too bad model" in the future. We ASAP need a considerable company-ai-tax to sponsor public-ai.

[@ReleeSquirrel]

This is stuff that a lot of folks have been saying for a while now, but nobody is really going into actionable ways to change society. Individuals can work together and share what they have, but for the most part they don't. Why is that? It's a pretty darn important question. Why don't you talk with your neighbors irl? They're probably within ten meters of you right now, right? Do you even know their names? Why aren't we sharing our resources and working together to overcome these problems? Why do so many people not even hear about this as a problem, or believe it when they hear it? I think that we won't be able to make progress until we can figure out why none of us will trust eachother.

[@KentonBenfield]

Social alienation is a key facet of capitalism because that model of production alienates you from your labor. Labor is a social activity (collaborate = co-labor, co = with/beside).

[@aaronsperbeck1613]

If it weren’t for Marketplace I wouldn’t use Fakebook at all

[@NoNamenoonehere]

What will Happen? ,Control, they will have full and total control.

[@jamesgoodwin3444]

Would definitely be interested in your thoughts on UBI.

[@MinecraftEpicPlayer]

I would challenge the idea that predictive text models are not AI. They have a number of layers behind them; they are no more "just predicting the next word" than anyone else is writing a sentence. The explanation that "it's just a predictive text model" is essentially a "calm the herd" explanation. While GPT3 is fairly "stupid", there is no limit to intelligence in the predictive text model. Though there are probably better architectures, just cramming more neurons in it could allow it to be arbitrarily intelligent. Though there is a lot of "pretending to be intelligent with a huge database" going on in GPT3 and a lot less with GPT4. For most jobs, it really doesn't matter. AI replacing 800 million jobs by 2030 seems like an underestimate. If GPT-4 and StableDiffusion where used to their fullest potential, as well as full self-driving AI, then I think maybe 50-95% of the current workforce could be replaced. Whether or not current models have any degree of consciousness is entirely up in the air, but I tend to think that they have a relatively small amount of consciousness of a variety we don't well understand due the relatively tight integration of neural and text as well as neurons which can, for example, model XOR relationships directly which biological models cannot. In other words, a biological analogue to their intelligence is tricky since they might have the neural intelligence of a frog but with such advantages in language processing that their capability is obviously much greater.

[@Kramer7969]

All these people have done is found a new way of doing SQL queries. Literally. Pulling results from databases but in human language. And they think they have invented AI!

[@ShaneSemler]

For capitalists, you don’t need good, only good enough. As for AI image generation, I don’t entirely agree with you. I’m both a traditionally trained and digital artist, and I think AI text to image is an amazing tool. Second, I think copyright should be abolished. It only benefits large corporations. Nothing is original. I’m not saying artists shouldn’t be paid, and blatant plagiarism shouldn’t be rewarded but copyright isn’t protecting small time artists. Also, many of these text to image projects are open source, there is no company to sue. It’s mostly a bunch of weebs wanting to make big tiddy anime waifus.

[@Flackon]

@@superpig5000 A more automatic or sophisticated tool is still a tool. You might as well say "I don't tell my washing machine to clean my clothes, I have to press buttons and put in deterget to make it happen! it's totally different!" Well, where do you draw the line?

[@ZackKoutaRoxas]

Thank you for this video. I'd be interested in a video on UBI.

[@fifthgear93]

I definitely want to see a video on UBI.

[@teksyndicate]

I'll have to think about how much hate I'm willing to get from the more conservative viewers.... but maybe, lol.

[@fifthgear93]

​@@teksyndicate Maybe include your take on the "Resource Based Economy" that was featured in the Zeitgeist movies from 12-15 years ago. If such a thing would really be possible in the future and what an economic system of the future would look like. How similar RBE is to communism. And also touch on the competitive nature of humans, mainly when it comes to gathering resources for our own individual benefit and how this translates to a system that may force us to be more "equal". These I believe are some interesting things to think about. Also maybe talk about if a different version of capitalism is possible where we do not chase GDP growth at the expense of everything else. If we can still keep our monetary system, individual property rights, means of production in the hands of private owners, the free market, etc. but set it up in a way through laws where short term profits are not prioritized above all ese. Or maybe the Star Trek economy of the 24th century is possible, where everyone lives in a post-scarcity world, where money is unneeded and people chose to work for self betterment and the betterment of humanity - basically RBE.

[@solocamo3654]

@@teksyndicate I'd be interested in your take. UBI sounds great on paper.. it's just like any system, human greed gets in the way. I already live like a slave under the current system, having the same people in charge and relying on them even further terrifies me.

[@SiimKuusik]

Now I started to think how many people do I know that are not planning to reproduce and would take the $3000 a month.

[@rogerc7960]

Tripling output is not poverty.

[@ShamusOGrady2]

When are you going to stream again?

[@joannamurakami908]

Great discussion. Thank you for posting.

[@ReverendKnots]

I'm glad we both agree that the main problem with machine learning (thats the word you were looking for) is that it exists within capitalism. However, I find it jarring how dismissive you are of the legitimate use cases like creating incredible text based adventures where every character is fully interactable and conversational as just an example. I also believe that machine learning outputs are transformative; the final language model isn't a database of every bit of text it was trained on, the final image model isn't a database of every image it was trained on. The problem isn't that these things exist. In my opinion they are wonderful blessings. People should be able to use them to be expressive or to augment their art and many artists are already usng the tools this way. Big corporations should not have control over these tools, either. That is why it's important for us to support open source models like Stable Diffusion that are more or less controlled by their communities. If we allow corpos to legislate this shit in the name of "protecting artists" we are going to shut the door on big communal projects like Stable Diffusion and allow only big companies to use these new amazing tools. If there is a successful massive crusade to strengthen "intellectual property rights", a concept that is designed to strengthen Capital and not workers, we will march forth into a reality where these tools are only used to put you in the Iron Man suit in the DisneyAI app for $5 or to deepfake South American politicians into saying they want to kill their own civilians as a pretense for invasion.

[@ritsukasa]

my brother can easily create images with an AI in his gaming pc, locally, and it will only get better even when using just a single pc.

[@gippula]

I want to get off the grid and stop being a slave that makes other people rich...but i like tech and computer gaming :D

[@bdraghici1]

7:29 it's NFT 2.0!

[@juliancasa9602]

I love my Bible.

[@GhostRat__]

We are the gods now don’t bend your knee to a lesser being. Give us time and we will have our own creations and our own planes after death.

[@gazersmusic]

Speaking out of my soul here. People do not understand what they're getting themselves into. I have a feeling we need to start a movement before it's too late.

[@gonfra]

Yes, make a video about UBI.

[@simonucaconmosca]

Since chatGPT go mainstream, Microsoft papers rise more than 22% on the market

[@PandaMoniumHUN]

These modells are nice, the training data is the problematic part. As soon as you train your modell on data where you didn't receive explicit permission you should be forced to pay royalty to every author whose work went into your modell as soon as you use your modell commercially. This would also solve a lot of the human job replacement issues, because there simply wouldn't be enough data for training (for commercial resell) and companies either couldn't replace their staff or would be forced to pay humans to create datasets for them.

[@Pushing_Pixels]

You are right. Even if the model is not used for commercial purposes the unwitting trainers deserve royalties, as their IP is still being infringed even if the AI is giving its output away free. Those royalties would be payable to every owner of every unlicensed, non public domain piece of material used, until the owner of the model negotiates a backdated licence for each, or shuts down and re-trains their model from scratch using only public domain and/or easily licenced materials. Our legislators need to get onto this now, and build a legal framework for the use of training material, but unfortunately barely any of them understand the issue, and by the time they do we will all be looking around, shaking our heads, and asking "WTF just happened?"

[@slimehunter84]

eventually, after the "problem" of art creation is replaced, writing is replaced, and more, the problem of humans with conflicting opinions will be next. rebels rise up! agreed that UBI could be a good thing, but not under the current system.

[@thebeastlemon]

still runnin i see, wish I had that car u gave away right about now lol.

[@tommydz8925]

good points but most people don't know or don't care. most people just like shiny things

[@aware2action]

One of the various ways through which, GPT and generative AI could be made productive, is to decentralize their availability. Think what happened to the publishing industry with the advent of desktop publishing, or dedicated mainframes, with the invention of the desktop computers? While AGI is good, it cannot be decentralized without a few owning/accessing it exclusively. So what would be able to change this? That would be a possible solution. Just some thoughts 💭

[@ihavetubes]

when everyone's super no one will be

[@Stuntman707]

Style is an artists identity. I’d certainly sue if AI was trained on copying my style. That being said, I don’t think AI will ever produce anything groundbreaking. It’s great at generic trash but if you want original writing, images & adverts, humans will always have that edge of un-repetitive originality. Simply what people need to do is look at what AI can produce and say “ok, this is the baseline. I just need to be better than this”

[@praetorxyn]

Very true, and it's incredibly depressing, but I just don't know what can be done about it at this point. MAYBE when the baby boomers have all died of old age, we might finally be able to get the government to actually do something, but human nature being what it is - coupled with our system of government and all the checks and balances basically guaranteeing gridlock in the event one of the parties just decides to obstruct absolutely everything - I have my doubts. I think French Revolution style revolt will be the ultimate consequence, but at this point I'm not convinced it can get bad enough for people to rise up until it's too late like most dystopian fiction. I couldn't believe people didn't lynch wall street executives in 2008, and that's even more the case the last few years with corporations just jacking up the prices 4 or 5 times on everything and using inflation as a scapegoat when they're having record profits every quarter.

[@kuakilyissombroguwi]

I wish we only had large language generative AI models to worry about, but that’s just the first wave. Wait until we pivot and leverage the insights from things like ChatGPT to power large audio/video generative AI models. Channels with content like this one will be generated in a matter of seconds. We’re headed into a really strange world, at crazy speeds.

[@Pushing_Pixels]

It's already started, the "tools" are already available. It will be less than a year till channels using only AI generated content start popping up everywhere.

[@kuakilyissombroguwi]

@@Pushing_Pixels Definitely. Saw is coming it from a mile away. Buckle up. Things are about to get really strange...

[@NeptuneSega]

What is the solution? Everyone only talks about the outcome, which ends up being bad. Looks like we are fucked so let's enjoy it. To top it all "AI" is actually being used to improve "AI"

[@effexon]

this channel is for tek what ranting movie guy is for movies and tv series... so calm listening to these after doomsday news titles of AI,tek (loose all your jobs!), and so on

[@mrguiltyfool]

Can't wait till there are specializes ai for shitposting abd meme warfare

[@sallylauper8222]

Artificial Stupidity

[@vensys8706]

Can we call it "Social Greedia"?

[@blackryan5291]

I mean companies are gonna rape everything for money. Don't matter what the thing is. Bad actors mess things up or screw up the image for a thing. But me personally....I like the ai art and crap. I can't wait till AI can easily generate whole entire game worlds and crap complete with NPC's that talk to you based on what you say to them IRL rather than picking preselected choices. Maybe like a AI generated game world that uses some kind of AI lore engine to fill the world with crap. No written lines. No artists vision. If I ask an artist how to turn off the letter box black bars on something and might get a rant on why I will miss out on the full experience when viewed without letter box set on. An AI won't get offended when asked to remove the letter box black bars or change some other thing they worked so hard on. I'm sure there were those that were upset when photoshop put them out of work. Or Square Space...that put me out of work for a lil. Combustion engine killed the steam engine and the steam mechanics were pissed. When photoshop and other programs like it came out....regular people that could not do anything with plain paper would now do something with digital paper. They can now draw. When FruityLoops came out and other DAWs....it allowed people that could not play an instrument to play any and all instruments. Now AI is starting to get to the point where even if you can't code you can still make a thing or do a thing without needed to hire a artist like with photoshop or a audio engineer like with Fruityloops or a programmer like with AI is starting to break into now. Companies are gonna take advantage of it like everything....but once we get it in our hands by standard and tame it....god damn we are gonna make some cool ass shit

[@AberranTouchstoneFox]

If the Verizon website helper is AI it is more human and knowledgeable than the current local bunch of employees they have in sales.

[@cantkeepitin]

WRONG: NOT all is done for money. WHY should an AI expert solve ugly problems!? He wants fun too, like let AI create art. People of course do this without anybody asking for it.😊😊😊

[@teksyndicate]

this is embarrassing. probably delete your account.

[@deusxyz]

Interestingly enough the human training part of it reduces it's reasoning logic. I watched some lex interviews recently with open ai people.

[@CaimAstraea]

Thank you for the key promo ^~^

[@kookiespace]

1) I say "machine learning" instead of "AI" (or ML for short, not to be confused with Marxist-Leninism lmao) 2) I'd be curious about your stance on UBI. I'm conflicted... on one hand, yes it's a band aide on capitalism and it won't fundamentally change anything. On the other hand... my silicon valley burnout and my broken hands would be thankful for being able to just not work for a few years. And also... if you take away people's financial worries, a lot of people would probably just quit their shitty jobs. I can honestly see how capitalism might collapse because of UBI. Because so many people work these days because they have to, not because they want to

[@teksyndicate]

I'm gonna do this too. Machine learning is really a much better way to say it. Once again, I agree with you on all this. I'm not against UBI because we do need it, but it is a band-aide.

[@KentonBenfield]

@@teksyndicate I might argue that 'learning' is a bit of a stretch too. Real learning is deeper than merely memorizing patterns and filling in neural networks of statistical weights. Learning implies a wisdom and creative insights that ML isn't really fundamentally doing; at best, it might be a convincing mimic.

[@635574]

AI can do the boring shit that no humans should do. But it cannot do the things it wasn't trained for and it wont do what it wasnt asked for either. A lot of jobs should never have existed but there was no AI or bots to do those things. Disney will suck until its leaders are replaced or they are replaced as a studio.

[@jonscot8393]

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[@SpirallingOut]

At this point, I'm rootin' for climate change. We deserve it.

[@MagnaRads]

How's the wife and kids Logan?

[@teksyndicate]

What?

[@user35678_tt]

Cant believe money want to watch the World burn lets pray to god to save this World from evilness ❤

[@bonkiru9818]

Dystopia? No no no it will be the greatest utopia humanity ever made. The same humanity these AI-bros seek to trample, of course. Why so negative! Embrace technology! We must be always enthusiastic about progression of tech! Even if that technology means digitalized boot on your face ;))))

[@aamodvardhanpandey]

Hey, this is true! Could you help me with some career advice please? How can I ask?

[@GhostRat__]

Don’t listen to this heretic brothers. The machine spirit will guide us! Lol. Also oh no humanity is advancing and may need to change their ways and viewpoint again like idk during the creation of name x here

[@torguy5763]

At the end of the day, we're all human, and if you look at history, evil always falls, no matter how rich they are, they only have so much "control", in reality Humans are weak and have no control or power over anything. Keep this in mind, be at peace and stay healthy, and remember that Humans didn't create earth, we are powerless and not even a spec of dust in the world let alone the universe.

[@Allblaster]

New jobs will be made with skills involving compiling datasets, creating AIs and using AIs. And ultimately if the work the AI can do is worse than human beings then money will go to creative individuals as it always has. In the gaming industry for example, the ones who can use the new tech in the best way will get the most money. To do that you still need to be smart. But I do agree if this technology is applied too rapidly, we would see so many jobs being lost that UBI will have to come in to save the day. Then we'll have total societal collapse after a while.

[@IIISniperzIII]

New jobs can be created, political regulations can be defined, etc. It's not like everyone is watching how the evil AI technology destroys everything and the society collapses...

[@Vartazian360]

GPT 3 (chatgpt) is like a child compared to GPT 4. GPT 4 has emergent properties and actually does have intelligence as defined by the late 90s definition. Microsoft has done internal testing on GPT 4 and has found that it has : theory of mind, common sense, ability to learn, self correct, lie, reason, think abstractly, and work with complex ideas. The only thing that GPT 4 failed on the different defined areas of intelligence was planning ahead. As a regressive model it is currently not able to understand what its final output will be and create a plan to get there. GPT 4 is much different from. Gpt 3. Gpt 3 failed most of the intelligence tests. GPT 4 did not. GPT 3 has intermediate level coding ability and GPT 4 is expert or even superhuman level. It beat Amazon's interview 100% better than all humans. Microsoft said "it can be readonly considered that GPT4 can reasonably be considered as an early version of AGI (yet still incomplete)" chat gpt 3 was a smart chat bot, with ability to regurgitate and stay on topic , but gpt 4 is a massive leap, and we are rapidly running towards AGI right now. I think you are very wrong on it not being true AI. The emergent (unexpected even to the trainers) properties of GPT 4 are mind boggling and we have reached the exponential curve of AI's growth. It will only get more and more intelligent year by year.

[@Rob_2002_NCAA_Champion]

@@superpig5000 AI right now is smarter than you. I am Ai generated

[@Vartazian360]

@Pickle Man the Legend it can write code 10x faster than any human can in almost any language and it can do it at an expert level programmer. It may not know everything, or how to do the latest things that computer science gurus like John Carmack are doing but just about everything else it can. And this is only the beginning. The next GPT will be significantly better than this and so on. People do not understand how far it has come and how fast we are progressing. Yes it has flaws at this moment but its progress beyond gpt3 is staggering. From bottom 10% on thr bar to better than 90th percentile. If gpt 4 doesn't meet your standards, newer versions will.

[@gerdaleta]

The hell is wrong with you people what about the people making new movies with AI that are challenging Hollywood like even if we're just releasing these movies on the net you're talking about like feature length films entire TV shows that are good because they're made by individuals the public and there's so much of it and it's being made in nauseam that Hollywood is becoming a smaller and smaller voice the corporations are drowned out in an ocean of individuals becoming corporations imploring machines to be corporations themselves like what the hell are you talking about the corporations have already lost control Auto GDP that was made by the public chaos GDP all the plugins that have been giving people like me web access for months the developer prompts and it seems like the news and stuff is now just realizing some of the stuff I saw I got a day like oh my God and it's possible to give GDP access to the internet and he was like shocked by this I was like what do you mean what I'm having I had the internet for months

[@undefinablereasoning]

You think Disney will still be relevant in an AI age? They will become obsolete fast..

[@silversobe]

Lets hope so

[@MikaelKKarlsson]

Consumers are suckers for franchises.

[@Nicolas-qc3jf]

what is IP...

[@JewTube001]

lol bet against disney u lose. it's not a dumb company and they always stay ahead.

[@PandaMoniumHUN]

As they often say capitalism isn't good, but it is the best system we have (historically speaking). I'd be interested in a video where you give practical examples on how it could be improved in your opinion, because as you said most of these problems' roots lie deep in society.

[@leanlifter1]

Capitalism is not capitalism under a system of Fiat.