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2:41 Mr. Cruel
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[@Cadaber]

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[@LavaCreeperPeople]

Ok

[@Pinksgonecrazy]

new cadaber upload already going hard

[@bradmiley]

Hey Cadaber! Just watching now! What is that piece of music you use (today it was over the Reddit logo and your intro to Mr Cruel)? I've always wanted to know! All the best from Northern Europe my friend!

[@joshuamcgovern6587]

No

[@Trustkillx]

Ad stops at 90. Cadaver doesn't even eat this shit

[@red_eyed_rabbit]

Regardless of the first redditors family being Mr. Cruel or not, poor woman. What a horrifying start to life. No wonder she would even consider the Mr. Cruel stuff. She had her own personal Mr. Cruels growing up. All I can hope is that she is doing better these days.

[@Hasblock]

Ah, to be young and naive wholeheartedly believing the fiction of a creative writing wannabe

[@red_eyed_rabbit]

@@Hasblock I can definitely acknowledge that most Reddit stories are complete bs lol. I'd rather take my chances coming across as naive to empathize with a potential victim of a shitty childhood than say nothing. I've got nothing to lose in feeling sorry for a fictional girl with a fictional story, but I'd hate to think I ever doubted a real one with a real story of abuse. Just my perogative.

[@jamesknapp64]

well said.

[@thehangmansdaughter1120]

I'd have sympathy for her had she not sat on this info for 30 years, doing nothing. The fact she was abused herself just makes it worse. She KNOWS the damage done, but does nothing to protect others. Does she honestly believe they stopped when they moved? Is she really that stupid? Of course they didn't stop. She knows they didn't. But she's done nothing.

[@MissVanHelsing]

​@thehangmansdaughter1120 it's not that simple. Whilst I agree that she needs to take action by bringing this to the police now, she's not stupid. She's afraid, she's considerate of her own bias due to the abuse, refraining from being impulsive, and has natural human instincts to protect her wellbeing regarding the backlash that would have occurred to her had she done this whilst she was younger - as well as her psychological well-being and her current families wellbeing by not stirring shit when she's not 100% certain. That, combined with a huge likelihood of self doubt due to trauma messing with her brain and the overwhelming PTSD she would have sustained, makes it less black and white then what you're making out. Plus she already HAS gone to the police, she was turned away that least once for a lack of evidence and became overwhelmed with an already overwhelming process after her house caught fire and she lost the police details. I believe the details would have been easy to recover simply by going back to the police, and she needs to do it now. The opportunity may have just been used as an out for her to put it off for a while because it's traumatising. She obviously does know what it's like to be abused and wants to help solve the case for the girls and their families who suffered. I'm not sure what asking reddit would do as far as helping her get contact info for the police, though. She just needs to go to the police and enquire. Especially whilst her step father is still alive so they can compare DNA evidence. Edit: grammar

[@jaynederp5236]

Is it just me or does Australia seem to have a pretty bad pedo problem? Every time they bust a large scale dark web CP distributor they're always Australians

[@causticwit2286]

It’s not just you. There are a lot of them in Australia. 😂

[@gooseking0420]

I think, honestly, they just have such a low bar for what qualifies that they can pick up more. It is the same country that threw a guy in for that charge for having drawings of the kids from The Simpsons. A broader scope for what you can charge for makes it a lot easier to scoop them up and retain those charges after the fact, leading to those higher numbers. In other words You get picked up in Australia for that sort of crime and you're screwed because even if you deleted and hid the traditionally bad materials you're never going to hide everything and they don't even have to find actual children in materials for it to qualify thanks to the precedent-setting case. In short: I think they just care more. They have broader classifications, and they're involved in almost every bust we have heard about because they're willing to be.

[@ernestoacosta7918]

Like the comment above said, you’re likely to see more cases of assault in countries that care. That’s why in Canada and Europe there was a “r*pe crisis” when countries were just classifying and prosecuting cases more justly, such as how many people, how many times, and what kind of assault are often all a different charge in a case. Also Australia is close to countries where prostitution and children being in dire situations are prevalent among the poor, like the Philippines

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

Ok

[@Golemtx]

Maybe it is because the pedo catching task force is based there, I don't know

[@mycomagus]

My boyfriend was bit by a woman's aggressive off-leash dog years ago. The doctor said they could treat for rabies immediately, or wait for the dog's test results to come back. He opted to get the shots immediately, which I am grateful for, since less than a week after the bite the dog had died. Of rabies. Don't mess around. Get the treatment. You won't live long enough to regret it if you don't.

[@myfaveyoutube]

no rabies in australia thankfully

[@thevoidwalkerbr]

​@@myfaveyoutubewdym rabies is literally in every country

[@koalaplays8855]

Rabies is cool it’s like a zombie virus 😮

[@boopgah]

@@koalaplays8855 except people die, real people from rabies. People who had plans, dreams, friends, people who are scared before they go. It's not cool like a zombie virus, it's tragic especially because almost no one survives

[@TheShortGirl666]

My sister got bit by a local feral cat. I took her to the ER and we waited almost all night while they did tests and whatnot on her. They finally have her the first set of shots, then she went in for a later set. The cat turned out not to have rabies (she was just a bitch) but I'm grateful my sister got tested right away. Better safe than sorry (or dead).

[@vinvillian4621]

That last story is terrifying, but it’s also important to know that at least in the US the annual infection rate of rabies for humans is incredibly low, around 1 to 3 a year

[@octopusprobably5544]

oh thank fucking lord, as someone who has severe anxiety you are a goddamn angel.

[@MC.Jewelzz]

@@octopusprobably5544FOR REAL THEY HELPED ME 💀✋🏽 I get so anxious and nervous about these kind of things

[@klulu-kun]

I wouldn't be able to sleep at night without this info. I love you.

[@user-md3wm7vu1f]

that rabid fox was absolutely horrifying

[@joshofficer2054]

​@octopusprobably5544 it has a 99% mortality rate so that's something to anxious about

[@kmb1779]

I’ve heard my own Mr. Cruel rumor myself. My family emigrated to the US from Victoria when I was a child. When I was a teenager, I read about Mr. Cruel and being a true crime freak, I dug into it a lot. One day I mentioned it to my mother and she just casually said “oh yeah, he’s dead”. I had to inquire some more and she told me the story as she knew it. While we were living in Victoria, my mother dated an Inspector from VicPol. According to him, not too long after the last Mr. Cruel attack, the police got dispatched to a fatal motor vehicle crash. The driver was killed on impact but matched the general physical description of Mr. Cruel. Inside the car they found several items (she believes a mask and some other clothing were part of it) that gave them sufficient cause to believe the driver was, in fact, Mr. Cruel. Supposedly his house lined up with what they knew of Mr. Cruel’s residence as well (in an airport flight path, etc). The police never publicly announced this because they didn’t have enough proof that they were willing to name someone specifically, and they didn’t want to close the case without a conviction just in case they were wrong. The attacks stopped after the crash. Of course, I have no way of knowing if this is true at all. My mother could have misremembered or her partner could have made it up to either tell an interesting story or to allay some of her fears as a young mother living alone in Melbourne. There’s no way to know now either.

[@penguinvic9892]

I know a researcher on this very topic who has tracked down many police who either worked on these cases or are interested in them. They claim just about every police officer or detective nominates a different suspect. Only recently Australia’s best known TV detective, an ex-homicide detective with a 99 % success rate, nominated a criminal who was shot dead at a failed Melbourne Airport heist in 1992. Another suspect to add to the list.

[@nekovalley]

I know the chances of the first redditor actually being related to mr. Cruel are slim, but i think people make her out to be some attention-seeking liar when, as a CSA victim myself, i would also be very nervous and obsessive over any coincidences if i thought my abuser was hurting other people. Knowing someone like that just makes you very paranoid and sometimes eager to jump to conclusions if it means your abuser might be able to finally face a consequence.

[@memeju1ce]

absolutely. kids’ experiences especially are often questioned and invalidated, and it’s incredibly disheartening. i don’t understand how anyone could sleep at night after perpetrating that shit if that makes sense

[@Sicksociety334]

Yeah. No excuse for pointing the finger at two men when you have zero proof. That’s absolutely criminal.

[@blanket4763]

@@Sicksociety334it wasn't "no proof", they were convicted pedophiles matching physical and voice descriptions and locations at the time of the events, plus obsessing over the case in the news is MORE than just a little suspicious

[@jasonvargas7564]

@@Sicksociety334at the very least, they are p-dos so who cares?

[@akechideez9277]

@@Sicksociety334 its almost like the two men shes accusing are criminals to begin with get your shit straight

[@PleaseStayOutOfMyDreams]

I want to note that when you have been abused by someone and you don’t know what their fate is, you are always wondering if they are doing the same thing to someone else, or if they have escalated to something more. I don’t think she’s making it up, I think she’s horrified at the thought that someone who abused her could’ve potentially moved on to someone else. Whether she really was or wasn’t raised by him, I couldn’t tell you. But I don’t think she is being malicious or attention seeking.

[@katherinemontoya9829]

I agree 100%. I experience SA when i was around 9 or 10 by someone my mom was close to - i was too young to know what was going on. To this day, he's out there. The feeling of dread i feel when I think if he's still doing that to someone else... it haunts me.

[@gracekairos]

someone who assaulted me tried doing it to an old high school acquaintance. she reached out and asked if i knew him. said yeah, stay away. she said it was too late but she would steer clear starting now. to this day, i worry about all the other women and girls he's in contact with.

[@ryanatkinson2978]

As someone who has people like that in my past (not to that degree, but heinous people nonetheless), I absolutely agree. In fact the past couple days I had a realization about a groomer who got to me, and how he had security cameras all around the perimeter of his house, and would check on them pretty intently when I was there. I naively thought at the time that he was just kinda "weird" and didn't think much of it. But after not thinking about it for years, I kinda realized that he probably had previous victims and stuff, probably younger than me. I was 17 at the time, which was technically legal where I am. I can only hope that because he's so gross now that nobody else gets roped into his control

[@OkamiLyra]

This is the truth. Not as nightmarish as what happened to her or a lot of other people here by a longshot, but I was inappropriately touched by my step-grandfather, whom I wholeheartedly trusted and cared about, twice when I was around 9. I constantly worry he's touching or doing worse to children who are brought to that house when their parents want to visit, he'd already been in legal trouble for molesting one of his sons before then. None of this was unknown to my grandmother, she knew and just willingly left me with him unsupervised and both of these moments happened while other peple were home, but in other rooms. My mother, bless her, let me stay home after I told her. Never had to go there again unless I chose to. Her mother, at some point after all of it happened, would tell her about the incident with him very possibly molesting one of his own sons. She's incredibly upset it was just... allowed to happen to me, basicallu. My grandmother also left my mom with her (gm's) brother when she was 6, who was a known pedophile. Don't think I need to say what happened to her back then. Apologies for the ramble, but I felt all the context was needed.

[@limasierra6639]

So true.

[@blanket4763]

Jeana was the first person to be saved using the miluakee protocol, but not the only one. *She's just the only one to make a full recovery.* there are four others that have survived with this method, but all had lasting brain damage.

[@bunnyluver2176]

*Milwaukee Gotta correct it...Wisconsin proud!

[@buddyscaglini]

Oh pipe down

[@cole4342]

@@buddyscaglini???

[@ItsBrendo]

@@buddyscaglini Oh pipe down

[@HadenBlake]

Terrifying that only 5 people have survived rabies, and only 1 made a full recovery. Such an awful disease. Edit: phrasing

[@PrayingToTheAlien]

44:48 WRONG! Rabies only lives in a deceased host for up to an hour. About 20 minutes outside the host. It's actually a wimpy little virus when outside the host. Most everything kills it outside the host, including ultraviolet light. I know quite a bit about this subject - IRL I work very closely with it and public health.

[@bunnyluver2176]

​@@dunjica77right

[@MasqueradeRose]

Bless you for this clarification. That was the part that was eating up my OCD. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[@stopmakingeyesatme1290]

That Reddit post annoyed me, to be honest. I know it was posted in a thread about scary stuff, but there's no need to fudge the details and exaggerate certain things just to freak people out. Sure, rabies is a serious thing that people should stay vigilant about when they're in the wilderness or around wild animals,but what irks me is that it's generally a lot rarer than the poster implies and the scenario they describe is improbable.

[@airfryerrotisseriechicken491]

Not to be THAT guy but its actually up to 24 hours, I just looked it up lol

[@beetle__bug]

yeah they got it confused with prions, which will funnily enough also survive pretty high temperatures so a simple burning won't necessarily destroy them

[@marianatrench5557]

No matter how many times I encounter that Mr. Cruel sketch, it still scares me.

[@alyssasilva9432]

lmao when it zoomed in at the end of the story i jumped it’s so terrifying

[@yfwkrystal]

@@alyssasilva9432exactlyyy like i was not expecting that it scared me sb😭

[@phantom-X2086]

Composite sketches always scare me because they look human, but also don't at the same time. Along with added context like a John/Jane Doe or an unidentified person or serial killer, it makes it even more eerie. I can't exactly explain why or how, but we as humans fear anything that look human or humanoid.

[@yfwkrystal]

@@phantom-X2086 It’s pretty much uncanny valley

[@phantom-X2086]

@krysurfav Yeah, exactly. I always hated looking at those sketches, and now I know why. One specific sketch of the Golden State Killer terrifies me every time I see it, and I try to make sure never to see it again.

[@christinelapratt8509]

FYI...donated organs are not tested for rabies. And yes, it has spread through organ donation in the USA. When I was bitten by a strange dog, had to get stiches etc. My Dr felt the rabies vaccination would do more harm than good as I was having chemo and radiation at the time. Stats in the USA show only 2 to 3 people contract rabies annually. Still...i was a bit worried as the dog that bit me was never found.

[@ramsgaard8780]

Yeah there was a scrubs episode ab this

[@evabruckner2892]

I hope your good ❤️ stay strong queen

[@Legionmint7091]

It depends in which country you live.

[@user_abuser_o7]

As a cancer survivor myself I can't say that it would suck to get bitten by a dog and worry about rabies while going through chemo

[@takohamoolsen2486]

My dad was in Egypt years back with some friends. Unfortunately, while on a walk, a pack of street dogs bit dad on the ankle. Straight away he went to hospital for anti-rabic shots. Except for a rash on his butt (where the shots were administered) he was OK.

[@Atomchild]

I just got my rabies shots. I was attacked by a random dog that had run off, never to be found. Rabies is a huge phobia of mine, so every headache or bit of dizziness that came over me terrified me. It has been a few days, and I'm feeling better, but feeling like I might have rabies is pure dread.

[@ashm2338]

You are vaccinated. You will be fine. I'm sending you good vibes friend, you're gonna be okay ❤

[@duckupine4345]

Vaccination gives you almost a 100% ceirtanty that you will not be ill. I know the dread, but don't worry, the vaccine does literal magic and if you got it it is safe to safe you'll be a 100% okay

[@thehailedacorn6054]

@@ashm2338 thee vaccines aren't 100% effective so there's still like a 1 in 10 chance he has rabies

[@bunnyluver2176]

You should be good cuz you got a rabies shot but I understand your fear.

[@eryndixon3590]

I know that feeling. I was badly attacked by a dog about two months ago. I got all my shots but everytime I get a headache or dizzy I have a moment of dread and have to talk myself down form oh God is this it am I going to die. It doesn't help that after my attack suddenly I had rabies descriptions and stories left right and center on my feed😂

[@nate_d376]

I have a hard time believing an abuser like Mr. Cruel would just stop. That type of thing is a life pattern. That's why law enforcement always believes serial killers and the like, never stop, they wait, unless they are put away or die. A whole video on Mr. Cruel would be interesting though.

[@gaiusgermanicus8296]

I think that’s pretty much been disproven at this point. With genetic genealogy we now know there are a bunch of “once and done” killers, we once thought they couldn’t stop, but turns out a lot of them do in fact stop for a variety of reasons. Look at the Golden State Killer who is an example of a serial killer who stopped later in life.

[@kat8559]

@@gaiusgermanicus8296"genetic genealogy" lmao okay gaius germanicus, definitely not sus at all

[@sam1600]

Disturban made an excellent video on Mr. Cruel

[@zoecozmeticz]

@@kat8559what are you on about??? what does the full name of caligula have to do with anything

[@zoecozmeticz]

@@kat8559also genetic genealogy is an incredibly informative and and important science. it has solved hundreds of cold cases and helps us understand our connections to both recent ancestors and ancient ones. it has been massively beneficial in the fields of biological anthropology, forensic science, etc.

[@Legionmint7091]

Thoughts regarding the Mr. Cruel post on Reddit: There are several things that is known about Mr.Cruel that doesn’t fit the poster’s description of her childhood abusers. Even though Mr. Cruel’s sexual assaults were despicable beyond words, his manner wasn’t. He was in fact described by the victims as soft spoken and, in contrast to what most people believe due to his moniker, seemed to care about the victims. One victim described him as “gentle”. He gave another victim a sandwich, milk and lemonade. To remove forensic evidence he bathed his victims carefully, with one victim describing the act as "like a mother washing a baby". According to the victims he lived in a fantasy that he was “married” to each girl. The fact that he didn’t kill the first three victims, but dropped them off and told them to call home, is not compatible with complete lack of empathy or a pronounced sadistic nature. Moreover, he didn’t physically hurt any of the victim’s siblings when incapacitating them, nor their parents that I’m aware of, even though he caused severe psychological trauma to both the victims, their families and in a wider perspective to the community as a whole. A very common, and perhaps understandable, misconception is that all pedophiles are sadistic psychopaths who lack empathy and remorse, but that not the case. At least two studies have shown that violent sexual behavior and sadism against children are more common among perpetrators (by far mostly men) who normally don’t identify themselves as pedophiles or show specific sexual interest towards children. Their goal is power and complete control over vulnerable victims. Any vulnerable victim. The same men usually physically and emotionally abuse adult women (or men) too. Pedophiles on the other hand more commonly delude themself that what they’re doing is “love” and have therefore no interest in hurting children as that contradicts their fantasy of “love”. I believe Mr. Cruel belonged in the latter category. That said, there are of course exceptions and quite a few known examples of sadistic pedophiles too. That Mr. Cruel was aware of how police collect forensic evidence, to such a degree that he bathed his victims, clipped their fingernails and toenails, brushed and flossed their teeth etc, does not necessarily mean that he was a “neat freak”. It rather indicates that he may have had a background in law enforcement, or at the very least had made considerable research in that field. However, I sincerely doubt his knowledge of police work was limited to forensics alone. What also may speak against the Reddit poster’s suspicion is that Mr. Cruel spent a great deal of time staking out the families and planning the abductions. It took up a lot of his time. For example, Mr. Cruel already knew the name of at least one victim when he abducted her and he knew that the children would be home alone in at least two of the cases. He also knew what they didn’t have, for instance security systems or dogs that could warn the families or attack him. It’s been rightfully speculated that Mr. Cruel may have been an employee of the local school system since all four of the assaults and abductions happened during school breaks. Someone new to the community would probably not have access to that kind of information and stick out if he tried to get it. My guess is that Mr. Cruel somewhat knew his victims, although from a safe distance. As in the quote by Marcus Aurelius “We begin by coveting what we see every day.” That the poster’s stepfather closely followed the reports about Mr. Cruel does not necessarily mean he actually was Mr. Cruel. Men who sexually abuse children are well known to be drawn to other men with the same interest, and often keep track of other sexual predators in media. There’s also the possibility that her stepfather followed the news because he was afraid that his own abuse could draw the police’s attention to him. When one child predator is being hunted by a task force, chances are that many other predators get caught in the same net - which indeed was the case in the Mr. Cruel investigation too. Though there are many known serial killers who sadly have targeted children, it does not in any way define serial killers in general. The stepfather’s interest was possibly more of a gory sadistic nature, especially given the specific names the Reddit poster mentioned and the stepfather’s own alleged inclinations. But it’s only fair to point out that a huge amount of people all over the world are fascinated by serial killers and true crime in general (we’re watching this video for example), without being violent, committing crimes or being a danger to society. Why did he stop? I personally speculate that when Mr. Cruel killed Karmain Chan his delusion of being “married” to the children shattered completely and destroyed his fantasy beyond repair. I think it’s very possible that Chan managed to free herself from the blindfold at some point and saw him, therefore he had to kill her. He is known to have said “My freedom is worth more than your life". There’s also a possibility that she recognized him, thus positively could identify him. Regardless, it’s possible that Mr. Cruel simply couldn’t cope with the murder afterwards. In fact most people who commit murder can’t. Murder wasn’t part of his fantasy. In his mind he “loved” the girls and was supposed to release them and continue the fantasy. I think it’s quite possible that the act of murder shocked him and ultimately consumed him. In his twisted mind he justified rape as “love” and threats as a mean to go through with it. But there’s a huge difference between verbally threatening someone and actually murdering a child. Mr. Cruel is a case that I first read about in the early 90’s and over the years I’ve tried to research it further but the information has been very sparse. It wasn’t until 2016 the police released a little more information about the case and revealed the seven suspects that they hadn’t been able to rule out. I would love to see a longer video about this case Cadaber.

[@ashadowintime7305]

you are mixing mr cruel case with another in Australia. he was covered by disturban

[@Legionmint7091]

@@ashadowintime7305No, I’m not.

[@InessentialMotionPictures]

I concur. This has always been my conclusion on this case. He considered himself a hunter but didn’t truly have the stomach to kill. All the crimes escalate as he gets more confident. When Karmein fought back and he crossed the threshold into murder, it shattered his fantasy. I believe he was risk-averse enough to quit thereafter.

[@saafiiiraa]

Very plausible theory.

[@stee8345]

Best comment on here. You summed it up to a "t"....highly unlikely her family member(s) is Mr. Cruel.

[@Qemsticks]

The Mr cruel case, i feel so bad for the girl, the guilt she must feel after realizing the victims all resembled her is unimaginable, my heart goes out to her and hopefully one day they face justice even if they're not mr cruel they belong behind bars

[@micktompson101]

Almost certainly a fake story made after the fact.

[@arnixe6784]

@@micktompson101 You can't write it off as almost certainly fake, a lot of people grow up in abusive households and its entirely possible that the story is true, even if it is does that necessarily mean that the step brother or father are Mr Cruel? Of course not, but writing off as fake because why exactly? I don't see any holes or issues in the story that make it look fake.

[@sourgreendolly7685]

@@arnixe6784People have no clue how lucky they are to be able to think that stuff doesn't happen.

[@veezopolis]

​@@sourgreendolly7685nobody said it was fake, they are saying that this random redditor isn't the step daughter of a serial killer

[@JoeRogansForehead]

@@arnixe6784it’s Reddit that’s why people think it’s fake

[@thesixfootsixexperience8781]

I remember Lazy Masquerade talked about Rabies once and it ruined my entire day

[@MC.Jewelzz]

NO CAUSE SAME, My anxiety is to high for this

[@TheGhostOfFredZeppelin]

When I hear about things like this I freak out, then I just think "how does it benefit me to be scared of this?" and then I just put it aside

[@roseopal4787]

​@@TheGhostOfFredZeppelinThis was actually incredibly helpful, so thank you.

[@TheGhostOfFredZeppelin]

@@roseopal4787 Hey, glad I could be of some help!

[@eems4565]

i watched that vid of his right before going to pakistan for the summer and the way i was ready to not go at all 😭

[@ragreenburg]

I like how in the end of the second story the redditor talks about how it's so creep that the plumber would watch them as if her and her family weren't doing the exact same thing. Sure they didn't setup the camera but they should have told the neighbors immediately when they realized. Instead they sat down and watched them for nearly a week before going and talking to them.

[@lerdog]

Right? I came here to say the exact same thing lol the lack of self-awareness was mind boggling.

[@Exxy6965]

@@lerdog If this is even true. It's Reddit and people like to farm karma, which is lame. Every normal person would go and tell about this to the neighbor immediately. The OP allegedly told their WHOLE family about this and nobody had a problem with that - nobody said "huh, this is not normal, let's go talk to the neighbors". So he's either lying or is a POS himself.

[@dandeeteeyem2170]

😂 Nailed it. My thoughts exactly

[@Thimble-berry]

Recently realized that I had a close encounter with an infected bat when I was younger. I was so worried about it being out on the ground during the day, come to learn years later that being out during the day and not being able to fly are signs of rabies in bats. Felt guilty at the time that I didn't try to help it, but knowing what I do now, I'm relieved. Poor little bat though. Even knowing I didn't come into contact with it, I still feel petrified at the thought of having somehow become infected. Retroactive terror is such a weird experience.

[@JustAnotherBuckyLover]

No, it's just a sign of the bat being *sick*. It MIGHT be down to rabies, but it could be any number of other illnesses and infections too, many of which are harmless to humans.

[@chcuakeof9xh]

​@JustAnotherBuckyLover who cares, still not worth the risk

[@JustAnotherBuckyLover]

@@chcuakeof9xh I never said it was? LMAO But keep on being mad, I guess.🤷

[@pottingsoil723]

When I was in 6th grade a couple kids were all standing around a bat that was grounded. One of them was poking at it with a stick and when I seen what was happening I told everyone to get back cause it could have rabies. Bats definitely get sick or injured and do strange things besides flying around at night, but there's zero circumstance in which an animal that is acting strangely should be approached so you made the right choice.

[@noirthern]

“Don’t shit where you eat”, is neither specifically Australian nor related to crimes. It means, “Don’t mix business & pleasure.”

[@sourgreendolly7685]

It can also be used in reference ruining one's homelife in various ways but yeah, it's not crime nor Australian specific.

[@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa4791]

Yeah as someone from Aus it also isn't a huge value that we follow like she's suggesting in her post.

[@no_peace]

It doesn't mean "don't mix business and pleasure" 😅 It means don't screw everything up in places you have to spend time in. Don't be a hound dog at work, or at, like, a gym you want to go back to. Don't bring drg dealers to your house. Etc. Don't contaminate the good things you have going

[@noirthern]

@@no_peace you’re exactly correct. However, I was trying to “paraphrase” the idiom without going too deep into a definition 😭

[@Bellpipe41]

“How do you like them apples” isn’t either. It’s used in the U.K.

[@donnablack6280]

Back in the day, our family seriously began wondering if my stepdad was the Yorkshire Ripper. The accent fit, the physical description fit, and worst of all he had a job involving a lot of travel and was in the same areas at the same time as some murders. Needless to say we were relieved when Sutcliffe was caught and it wasn't our stepdad. Turned out he was keeping a big secret, but killing hookers wasn't it.

[@shrew6674]

damn leave it on a cliffhanger

[@carbonn5998]

⁉️⁉️⁉️bro pls don’t leave us hanging 😭😭😭🙏

[@RoxyTBDW]

Let the people know! Unless you don't feel comfortable

[@NoDefaultsPlease]

What was the secret😭

[@rvbydolls]

Hold on what😭😭

[@ComradeCage]

I feel so bad for that fox at the end. Like the hypothetical person and bat in the story....that animal has no idea why its doing what its doing. And you can see the scarring, the blood guess at the pain that poor thing has probably endured.

[@beetlefiend6521]

bats are my favorite animals; i think they’re cute and misunderstood. it makes me so sad that i can realistically never pet one :(

[@NA-jn4bw]

Do you have any bat sanctuaries/rescues near you? Maybe there’s somewhere you can volunteer! And I agree, bats are super cute and fascinating to watch!

[@mackenziemoore7503]

Same, I love bats!

[@sandrafaith]

The third story's the scariest by far. That Redditor is an amazing writer.

[@user-md3wm7vu1f]

ill have nightmares about that fox

[@thiagoalencar3937]

I might be experiecing a panic attack over it :)

[@xIxHaZexIx]

​@@thiagoalencar3937No.

[@mogo5055]

In regards to Mr. Cruel still being out there: A cool down period this long is really uncommon, but not unheard-of. The Golden State killer is a perfect example. There are no crimes attributed to his name after the mid 80's, but he was still out there until recently and is still alive.

[@theMoporter]

The part that's wrong about rabies? That "IT'S EVERYWHERE". There are areas of the world which are free from rabies, like Western Europe. In the US, there's a couple of hundred cases a year, and in the whole world, there are 3,000,000,000 people living in countries with rabies - and only 59,000 die from it. 0.002% of the population that is anywhere near rabies-infected animals. Western Europeans - we're lucky, it's basically not a problem for us. Americans - you are at *far* more risk of being killed by contaminated lettuce than by rabies. Africans and Asians - if you live somewhere with good internet access, you're probably in the clear. Don't do anything risky, but chill out! It's not something you're ever likely to encounter. That redditor is fearmongering.

[@DelmiraVesna]

Thank you! I got fucking terrified, like it was a Rabies Apocalypses

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

​@@DelmiraVesna Also even in regions where it is common, like where I live We have strict rules in place to lower the chances of pets getting it. Rabies shots are pretty much part and parcel of the vaccination rounds for pets. And you are taught from a young age what signs to look for and what to do if you get bit by an animal you dont know. Aka. tell the doctor and prep for that rabies shot

[@sourgreendolly7685]

@@DelmiraVesnaIt's pretty hard to miss and most often easy to avoid regardless. Stay away from unknown animals and if you see any animals acting strangely (nocturnal animals out at daytime, biting at things that aren't there, being aggressive OR being overly friendly, etc) then be sure to call your local animal control. There's always a *chance* of course, but the cases that do happen aren't super common.

[@MC.Jewelzz]

You are a saint as someone who has hypochondria 🫶🏽

[@lovesick_loser]

THIS!! I heard the "it's everywhere" part and immediately went... no it isn't? I live in a country that hasn't had rabies since the 1800's.

[@LILBEF]

All of us in Melbourne who grew up when Mr. Cruel was out there, were absolutely terrified of him.

[@shortking-vp9vv]

The one thing that threw a big wrench in the Mr. Cruel case: the suspiciously convenient house fire that destroyed the contact info of the investigator. Sure, okay.

[@deivyjose3470]

yeah it sounds like bad fan fiction tbh

[@Guyjemm]

Agreed, I was believing the post until that exact moment.

[@veezopolis]

And that investigator never followed up? When someone's house went up in flames? Sure yeah okay

[@nao__channel]

its a story on reddit, of course its bullshit. the overwhelming majority of them are just peoples outlet for creative writing and the average redditor will eat up any old shit without even questioning it

[@MountainCry]

Right. Are there no other police officers who know anything about the Mr Cruel case? Pretty sure you could just call any police department in the country and they'd find a way to pass the information along.

[@crow456]

Being chronically ill is a funny type of terror because I have those beginning rabies symptoms every day and i just go on normally. I would never know if I had it. My back and head heart right now as i type this.

[@OuijaSTi]

You might want to consider going to the doctor if you haven't. Unfortunately, doctors can sometimes be dismissive and assume you're being a hypochondriac, so I would avoid telling them you've been online researching. I ignored some symptoms earlier this year and almost died because of it. Not trying to scare you, as my symptoms were totally unrelated, but it is important to prioritize your health.

[@crow456]

@OuijaSTi Don't worry I do take my health seriously, and will be seeing a doctor again soon. I plan to be firm with what I need. My issues are mostly related to my Tourette syndrome straining my muscles often (diagnosed) and Endometrial issues (undiagnosed, direct family history, much research done). I'm confident it's not rabies at least, but the observation is morbidly funny to me at least.

[@sourgreendolly7685]

I feel your pain. My symptoms are often those vague kind - fatigue, general pain, malaise, vertigo, brain fog... all of which can be anything from terminal to absolutely nothing. When it's really bad, it's hard to know which is worse. I had a seizure from medication 6 weeks ago so now I'm getting an MRI. Maybe that'll find something but that's obviously one of the scarier places to find something. I'd rather at least know though. Good luck with you appointment. If they refuse, try telling them that you want their refusal noted in your file.

[@OuijaSTi]

@sourgreendolly7685 Good luck with the seizures. I started having massive seizures just this year and it's been really, really unpleasant.

[@tropezando]

Lol same. I have lupus, endo, migraines, and kidney disease. Name a part of my body that doesn't hurt daily. If I went to the doctor for every pain twinge in my head and back, they'd start charging me rent.

[@baconshreds1772]

Rabies is scary as fuck, yes, but it brings me comfort that it's extremely rare.

[@lerdog]

The person in the second story was also a major creep for watching someone's bedroom for a whole week.

[@Qokdnzjuql7163]

worth it being creep for a week then this plumber guy potentially probably having cameras at every house in the neighborhood hahah.

[@lerdog]

@@Qokdnzjuql7163 they had no idea about the plumber thing. The result being something positive doesn't change the fact that they were creeps.

[@Qokdnzjuql7163]

@@lerdog yeah they were creeps i agree never said they weren’t but it was worth it the biggest creep plumber would’ve never been caught

[@kode-man23]

How have I had to scroll this far down before someone mentioned anything about the second story. Like... you're basically no better than the plumber 😂 There is no universe where you shouldn't immediately bring that up with the neighbour. "Hey, just letting you know that we recently hooked up a transmitter/ receiver device that we require to get TV reception into another room, and that device seems to be picking up the camera that you guys have installed in your bedroom. We haven't seen anything yet, and we certainly aren't going to be actively watching the feed, but through unforeseen circumstances, that feed is something that could find it's way onto our sons TV. Just getting that out there, so that everybody has that information and is on the same page."

[@zanyantics8823]

living in australia is a mixed bag. on one hand, it really does seem like every couple of months or so a public figure is revealed to be a child sex abuser, and from personal experience there are predators hiding in almost every neighborhood. on the other hand, no rabies

[@janedoe-hq9vn]

There are numerous people who are into pedophilia, many of whom are in political positions. It's troublesome to me that child sex trafficking and related doesn't receive more attention from the media..

[@XXTH3ST4RXX]

doesn't really seem comparable tbh. i would much rather live in a country without pedophilia vs a country without rabies

[@Dark_Peace]

"once you feel a headache or a slight backache, you're already dead" Me, a dev : 💀

[@slimeinabox]

The Mr Cruel story is one HELL of a fanfiction.

[@penguinvic9892]

The story teller even managed to change the hair colour of the victims’ (they all had different coloured hair) to match her own. Oh, well, never let the facts get in the way of a good story, eh? 🤔

[@catalinaplaza7909]

Remember kids, if you see a bat during daylight, specially if it’s fluttering in the ground, don’t get close to it and let the authorities know. That bat is rabid.

[@juliana.x0x0]

One topic that genuinely scares me is diseases. Ever since I was a kid, I went through phases where I would obsess over different diseases I learned about...Ebola, the Black Death, smallpox, yellow fever, West Nile virus, etc. Rabies is definitely on that list as well, and the newest one that I've learned about in the last year or so are prion diseases. They're another one that we have no real way to combat, and even scientists don't even fully understand them, if what I remember hearing is correct. I think the most well known one is the guy who got some kind of prion disease like fatal familial insomnia or something? And died of sleep deprivation, essentially, slowly and painfully, and documented it for science and the public, to raise awareness. Horrific story. Would love to hear your thoughts on prion diseases!

[@JustAnotherBuckyLover]

I mean, we do know how they cause disease, we just don't fully understand the normal functions of the protein yet The most well-known one is probably vCJD - aka the human version of "Mad Cow Disease". Either that or kuru. Or scrapie in sheep, and BSE in cattle. And we know precisely what prions are - they're simply a misfolded protein which have the ability to trigger the healthy protein in the brain to start misfolding as well. FFI differs from many prion diseases in that vCJD, scrapie, kuru, BSE etc are transmissible, while FFI is a hereditary genetic disorder. And Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and ALS are called prion-like diseases too, because they cause similar damages in the disease process too. It's a fascinating subject, but as long as you don't eat the brain or spinal cord tissue of animals (including humans), you should be fine against the TSEs. I'm a medical microbiologist, and prion diseases were a specific project I covered during my degree. So prions and emerging & re-emerging viral diseases (my dissertation subject) were my hot topics. In fact, I tried SUPER hard to get a position in the lab that was researching BSE and scrapie during my industrial year, but sadly, that position was incredibly popular and I wasn't one of the lucky ones.

[@MC.Jewelzz]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who obsessed over diseases as a kid, I would research these topics for days. Scare myself even more. And yes, about the insomnia guy I saw a KZbin video about him, it’s sort of cartoonish in nature but it’s more or less like this video just a little lighter I guess. I would be more than happier to share it with you,if you want if you haven’t already found it yet!

[@juliana.x0x0]

@@MC.Jewelzz yeah I'd love to see it! Were you an anxious kid? I know I was, and that anxiety manifested in things I'd obsess over, like food poisoning and diseases. My theory is that when you have things that make you anxious that you can't control at all, finding something to be anxious about that feels _somewhat_ more within our grasp gives us more of a sense of control over something. But what do I know lol just a theory, and I have a lot of those hah

[@MC.Jewelzz]

@@juliana.x0x0 The Video was made by Brew it’s called “the man that went 11 days without sleep, here’s what happened.” Sounds dumb but I thought it was neat watch And yeah I was a *really* anxious kid to the point my parents had to make up lies to me just so I could go to sleep at night but I always wanted to know more, I found it comforting to know knowledge when I was a kid cause like you said it gave me a grasp to understanding more it made me feel safe, even though I would bug out about it lol.

[@tablescissors]

I do not obsess over diseases and I still find it sketchy as f-ck how much Ebola was downplayed and forgotten, unlike Covid. People exposed to the disease overseas were blatantly (and exposed) as not quarantining properly, but it barely made the news.

[@wompppwompwomppp]

The person in the first story realizes that if she loses one police officers number.... she can just call any other one? Why would she have not gone to anyone else about that? Seems like a fake story.

[@supposedlymel]

it was way too elaborate to be a fake story, not to mention fear and trauma does strange things to you. plus she said that officer was part of a taskforce, not just some random cop

[@EllaNonimato]

IT WAS FAAAAAAKE!@@supposedlymel

[@connoc5078]

@@supposedlymel lmao why do you think a story that isn't really all that elaborate is too elaborate to be a fake story? Do you seriously believe The Lord of the Rings is a real story?

[@umbreex4061]

either fake or just a traumatized person who thought too much into it because, well, when you see similarities like that, it would scare anyone in her situation. but she is definitely not related in any way to the guy. just a horrible childhood situation at most

[@xvoidxhunter2129]

@@supposedlymel Thats like saying Harry Potter or LOTR is "too elaborate" or "too detailed" to be fake or fictional. Thats not a defense, and if she really was part of a task force there shouldve been multiple numbers to call for the different agents, but conviniently neither the agents or her were able in anyway shape or form to reach out to each other in the modern age of social media and internet: Sure bro

[@mattmacknight3000]

"a saying in Australia, you don't shit where you eat." lmao. We say that everywhere.

[@oatlord]

If having serial killer media is suspicious, then my wife better hope her Netflix queue never gets shown.

[@d.harvey7682]

I don't think his fascination itself was the problem. I think the combination of his fascination with serial killers along with the fact that he was a pedophile and overall shit person. I think that would make anyone suspicious or at least very put off tbh lol

[@oatlord]

@d.harvey7682 yeah the pdf file part is pretty bad.

[@d.harvey7682]

@@oatlord the pdf file is pretty much a dead give away at this point 😂 every time someone gets busted it's cuz of the pdf file

[@xvoidxhunter2129]

@@d.harvey7682 That is ofc assuming the story from reddit that has alot of coincidences and no verifiable info is true

[@markculp1355]

What I find particularly interesting about rabies is the mechanism behind hydrophobia. The virus itself doesn't instill a fear of water in its victims. Rather, it scrambles the circuitry in the part of the brain which stores routines for basic bodily functions, such as swallowing. This makes it so when victims try to swallow, a painful, chaotic series of contractions and cramps happens instead. Victims fear water because severe dehydration can cause this sequence to happen instinctively in anticipation of drinking, so even looking at drinks and thinking about them can cause incredible pain and discomfort.

[@frankmarano1118]

That last clip of the hydrophpbia is one of the scariest things ive ever seen before & most disturbibg as well

[@TheGhostOfFredZeppelin]

I'm not saying the girl in the first one is a liar but, it would be extremely easy to just write up a story about the case just like that one 30 years later with all the facts easily accessible and without providing any kind of proof. Just modeling the story around the clues that are made public and create a narrative that fits seamlessly around it all. The fact that she wouldn't talk to any other person than the one police officer that one time seems a bit fishy too. If it is to be believed that everyone else has turned her away that is, which I find kind of hard to believe. As if they would only go forward with completely open and shut cases. That along with the fact that she had no problem going to the police before, but is too afraid to do it now all these years later. What changed to make it so much more dangerous now all of a sudden? Don't get me wrong, I would love for it all to be true, in the sense that she would actually get in touch with police and help solve the case once and for all but as it stands from this brief piece of information about it, it doesn't seem too likely.

[@connoc5078]

It is absolutely fake.

[@femboy1141]

Yeah it’s made up or entirely coincidental

[@thewitchef]

The Mr. Cruel story gave me literal chills. Creepiest thing from Reddit I've seen in ages.

[@koy5902]

Rabies is the reason why I get seriously concerned seeing people near where I live trying to feed wild deer. It's not safe.

[@theMoporter]

There are many more common infections to be worried about that do serious damage.

[@Blakbox92]

I don't think anyone has ever gotten rabies from deer.

[@sourgreendolly7685]

@@Blakbox92It seems like it'd be pretty hard to miss since they're typically either docile or running away. Also they aren't usually biters. I suppose if someone just happened to be next to a deer as it hits them they could get bit though. It's not impossible, just not a regular thing. Unless we're missing something ig It can definitely be dangerous both for the human and the deer, just not because of rabies. They are strong animals that scare easily, they'll hurt people if they're frightened and trying to run.

[@no_peace]

The lack of top front teeth is also helpful

[@EllaNonimato]

oh no! even deer? i live in a place where are foxes and guanacos, but they are shy, specially guanacos.. you can't be near them, they will run for their lives.

[@SkottiKimble]

Fun bit of trivia, rabid is not 100% fatal, an 8 year old in California as mentioned. There have been 8 known survivors, with 4 in the last 20 years. Second bit of trivia, there is a potential cure in the works, it's in mouse trials and has a ~40% rate of survival for the infected mice.

[@MercedesLefrancois]

A full Mr. Cruel video would be really neat, I've seen several people cover the Reddit post, but I've never seen a video on the whole crime spree

[@witherslayer-7315]

I'm pretty sure Disturban made a video on his full crime spree.

[@MercedesLefrancois]

@@witherslayer-7315 oh rad thanks

[@neishaW15]

real crime has done a video but not on the reddit story but on the actual cases

[@cheeseman1115]

The last clip is very upsetting to think he’s basically just waiting to die it gives you a good sense of “maybe I’m not having such a bad day after all”

[@veezopolis]

Everyone knows a house fire erases your memory and ability to call the police station back

[@Dr.cozmore]

I believe her but why ask Reddit for a line of communication to police instead of google?

[@CrimsonMagick]

Made worse by the fact that, according to her, she has already pursued legal action against her brother in the past, explicitly giving kudos to the police. It also strains credulity that she's so worried about blowback when she has already supposedly put her brother behind bars once. Sure she has kids now, but there's no taking away that bad blood now.

[@Dr.cozmore]

@@CrimsonMagick true, I couldn’t help but sense theatricality any time she brought up being scared. Be traumatized and confused sure but to have such a heavy fear of “being found out” is kinda odd

[@stee8345]

My thoughts exactly

[@gardenofsn5955]

@@Dr.cozmore That's the PTSD dude

[@gardenofsn5955]

@@CrimsonMagick Different scales of charges, this is waaaay bigger than " just her " and would net them more than a slap on the wrist if somehow convicted

[@wiltedwoods]

I always expect more views and comments right off the bat because of how high quality Cadaber is

[@MadameCirce]

Please, let's not talk about bats.

[@sssssssssnakes]

"once you feel a backache, or a slight headache, you're already dead" me who had been having headaches for a week straight: guess i'm dead then

[@AlyssaMercedes]

Just an additional note: anyone who has been bitten needs to seek post exposure prophylactic (pep) If you have small children, mentally disabled, or elderly folks in your home, OR if you were asleep and wake up to find a bat in the house, it's recommended to seek PEP as well bc they are even less likely to know if I bat has bitten them.

[@kyuubicat5]

Yeah rabies is super terrifying- Same with prion stuff, like chronic wasting disease in deer and such.. yikes

[@awAtercoLorstaIn.]

I’d pick a prion disease over rabies every time. I remember when this was posted and it made prions seem tame, albeit hard to destroy.

[@AlienKissy]

@@awAtercoLorstaIn. Prion stuff scares me way more than rabies. Prion diseases are 100% ALWAYS fatal. There were 538 deaths in 2020 from Prion stuff in the USA. (source: CDC.gov) PLUS, there is NO vaccine as it is not a virus. It's also sporatic. Meaning, it can just happen for no known reason. At least with rabies most people know to get to the doc for shots if you get bit by something. Fatal Familial Insomnia is just one example of a prion disease (source: CDC.gov) and if you've ever read or seen anything about that- it's terrifying. Gimme rabies, put me into an induced coma, and just let me die lol P.S. sorry for the essay, I just went down the rabbit hole of Prion stuff a couple years back and am scarred for life.

[@alexander1902]

It’s not a 100% kill rate though, I think there’s about 5 documented cases of people surviving it without treatment and NOT ending up mentally disabled.

[@kaleido457]

@@awAtercoLorstaIn. Prion diseases will kill you as well, can lay dormant for years and even decades, and you can randomly develop one. All it takes is one protein misfolding.

[@Krillinjustchillin]

The first woman saying she doesn’t remember the cop and all the id for them was lost in a fire is hard to believe.

[@guerrerodude]

That last one really hits close. I had the worst night terror the other night being chased by a raccoon in a small room, and as soon as it started foaming at the mouth, I woke up, at the foot of my bed, halfway onto the floor. I don't know if I jumped involuntarily or what, but it was terrifying.

[@smassiha7881]

Well, the messed up thing about rabies care if you get bit and also live in the States is the huge expense. There was a story out of Texas of a woman who was bit by a known rabid bat in the parking garage of her apartment complex and couldn’t afford the $3000 shot. The headline was ‘woman refuses rabies shot’ even though she actually wanted it but couldn’t afford the out of pocket cost like all working class Americans.

[@ishmiel21]

OP from this first story about Mr. cruel never said that she went to the police multiple times and turned away. She said she went once and actually talked to someone in the task force but then conveniently forgot about it. OP also states that there is a common belief in Australia that you don't shit where you eat and OP uses that as an example of why her father or stepbrother didn't do that to her, yet Mr. cruel committed those crimes near the area where OP and her family was living at the time so that doesn't make any sense either

[@veezopolis]

There are way too many things in the mr cruel story that sounds fake. She had a house fire moments after she was supposed to reach out to the authorities? She won't publicly do anything about it but put her step brother in jail? This story isn't real

[@veezopolis]

None of those phrases are unique to Australia or even that uncommon to use

[@BoopSnootAndTroubleshoot]

Who said moments? And my brother abused me for years and I am terffied to say or do anything. The fear of scrutiny is real, and most people can't handle the shitstorm that is the media and all its viewers

[@RhysoTV]

I also I don't understand how the house fire would have prevented her from getting back in contact with the detective. Surely if she just called the police and told them, they would just refer her to the appropriate team. Seems odd.

[@xvoidxhunter2129]

@@RhysoTV Not to mention, why tf wouldnt she have it saved somewhere digitally like a Phone Contact, Google Doc or a Notes App? For her that number should be way more important than a throwaway piece of paper that can be lost or burned. Especially in the modern day. There are so many things that just coincidently line up for her to be locked to pleading on Reddit of all places rather than potentially doing or saying something publicly. Reeks of Creepypasta bait

[@philtkaswahl2124]

Man, this is why I hate being reminded of rabies after knowledge of it has finally slipped into the back of my mind. I tend to suffer from migraines, and the fact that one of the first signs it's too late is a headache makes me extremely paranoid about it.

[@MasqueradeRose]

Before being treated for OCD, I had a terrible anxious hyperfixation on rabies, so I empathize with you. I was comforted by the actual medical facts and statistics. There are only one to three cases of rabies in humans in the US per year. The Reddit post also got one very important fact wrong: Rabies does not live for more than 24 hours in a deceased host. It's a very fragile virus in normal conditions (outside of a host, it'll be dead within minutes to maybe an hour if room temperature). The only time its life can ever be prolonged as described by the Reddit OP is if kept at a freezing temperature and out of UV light. It also can't be considered infectious if the virus is in a dry material because of how quickly it'll die. It's very picky, actually, not quite the invincible super-virus OP made it out to be. Still scary enough for a well-written Reddit post, sure, but suffice to say I am sure you'll be fine! I can essentially guarantee that you're not going to catch it in this lifetime!

[@philtkaswahl2124]

@@MasqueradeRose Granted, the rational part of me knows that. But, well, sometimes the irrational part of me self-indulges.

[@xlnuniex]

Based on her description of her step dad, he seemed disciplined enough to possibly stop if he was Mr Cruel

[@tablescissors]

That’s another good point

[@sapphiz]

not really he obviously has a darker side and he’s lashed out at OP before so….

[@xlnuniex]

@@sapphiz the OP was his step- daughter. As messed up as that is… the point I’m making is he abruptly stopped being Mr Cruel. To him, she was his step father; probably thought she would never think he could be Mr. Cruel. Two different things. Maybe he took his frustration out on her or others close to him when he stopped being Mr. Cruel. That is, if he was Mr. Cruel. From what the OP wrote, Id also suspect her father and/or brother of being Mr. Cruel. Additionally, the police aren’t even sure if Mr Cruel is responsible for the murder of Karmein Chan. He’s a suspect though. Not enough evidence to confirm she was a Mr. Cruel victim or not. AND that was the last victim. Even if it wasn’t Mr. Cruel, maybe being suspected forced him to stop. Or maybe it was him, and the murder was too intense or he was close to getting caught. Theres numerous reasons why he could have stopped. He might even be dead. Who knows. It was just a thought.

[@creacher00]

As a kid, I was always privy to the nature around me. I remember coming across a raccoon in the early stages, and my mom caught on pretty quickly that it wasn’t right. I remember how she yelled at me to get away from it, but at the time, I couldn’t have predicted just how lethal Rabies is. I have some experience in animal husbandry now, so I’m always dotting my i’s and crossing my t’s when it comes to preventing zoonotic infections

[@DanT.Inferno]

"How do you like them apples" and "how does that grab you" are typical aussie phrases, maybe a bit old fashioned, but not unusual.

[@Tertia_Optio]

This is how it really happens.. Serial killers don't blend in.. Those closest to them know something is deathly wrong.. And many either cover for their red flags, or they stay in denial because they don't want to believe it or deal with it.

[@nplt8263]

I swear that Rabies post is the sole reason why I got hypochondria around rabies and every time I read or hear it it sets me off again, I saear.

[@MC.Jewelzz]

That’s actually so true with me. Never knew about hypochondria until now but it explains why I’m so nervous about illnesses.

[@glutenfreevids]

Long time no see 😅 thanks for nice content. I’ll immediately watch it after my work finishes 👍🏻

[@MissVanHelsing]

❤ Cadaber - I would LOVE a full video on Mr. Cruel. It's a fascinating case and I would really like to watch a full episode, or a deep dive.

[@OtherwiseBother909]

Wow, the horror that rabid fox video by the end was amplified the whole story. Great execution! Found your channel featured in Nick Crowley and I know this is something!

[@HawKNLoaD]

Stoked seeing new uploads on the regular, brother.

[@Notapizzathief]

The scariest part of the rabies post was OP saying at the end "would still get my vaccinations if I could afford them". Like, what the actual fuck is wrong with us that we can prevent this horrifying shit but choose not to unless you've collected enough pieces of paper with numbers written on them?

[@salemish]

Rabies most certainly isn't everywhere. In most countries, the rate of infection is incredibly low. Unfortunately poorer countries tend to have more of an issue with it, but I don't think most people in the US or UK really have to worry about it too much. Not to say it never happens -- It can -- but it's very, very rare.

[@irotinmyskin]

Quite frankly 1st story sounds fake to me. Even if you don't have direct evidence, you can still bring your suspicions to the police's attention, perhaps they will ignore them, but perhaps not, and it could trigger something for the investigation.

[@timshupe2838]

The King is back at it🔥🔥loving the burst of content lately

[@Eighty8percent]

that fist story ha so many holes in iit

[@radthepaisley]

Something avout that first story isnt adding up. Abused by her biological grandfather, step father, defense force step brother, mother, mother told her she would lie to the police, was forced to clean hub caps with a tooth brush, her father had no idea and didn't ask why her step brother was arrested, no police reports to corroborate the arrest

[@orophile1842]

I honestly deeply wounded by Mr. Cruel story for years now that i cant even bare to heard any story about it. It gives me so much pain.

[@froodcariad6399]

Definitely interested in a deep dive on the Mr. Cruel case!

[@jamesknapp64]

same

[@SUPERTROOPER89]

There seems to be a contradiction with story one, OP says that she had spoken to Police about her suspicions but lost their details in a house fire, yet OP then says that Police acted on her information regarding her step brother to the point that he got some jail time in relation to what happened to her, why didnt OP tell 'those' Police the same story as the one they told to the 'other' Police whose details they lost? The Police who acted against her brother would have been able speak with whom ever was on the task force (or cold case).

[@Pillerman24]

She lost the informations when she thought they were Mr cruel the police arrested the brother for his abuse

[@xvoidxhunter2129]

@@Pillerman24 She can just go wherever she went the first time to get that info lol, she had to have gotten that info without a number the first time. Also if that number was so important why not save it to your CELL PHONE or anywhere that isnt strictly a piece of paper, especially since she is posting on Reddit anyway. It reeks of Creepypasta storytelling excuses

[@megthornley2408]

I'd love a full Mr Cruel Video - I remember readung the reddit post but some further in-depth info would be really interesting

[@shadquirk607]

The Mr Cruel post is an absolute joke and not even worth going through and debunking each of the failures.

[@aeslehcdoow3930]

I get so excited when you upload! Love your channel!!

[@tisme2888]

Hey, love your work, and definitely keen as for a deep dive on mr cruel!

[@af70055]

If you’re really worried about rabies, pre-exposure immunizations are available, they are usually recommended to vets and people traveling abroad. However, anyone can get them and they are usually covered by insurance. Just like any vaccine, they can not 100% ensure that if you are bitten, you will not contract rabies, but it is good for peace of mind.

[@zephy936]

I get them because i work with a animal shelter and i rescue stray dogs very often.

[@naverich4603]

Two of the medical things I'm most scared of are Rabies and Sepsis. Rabies are probably worse since first symptoms already mean you're dead but sepsis is no better. You can get an infection without even knowing how, there were people that got infected by just having a small tear on a skin licked by a dog and they got the bacteria inside, or you can be alergic to something that got into your bloodstream without you even realizing just like that bat bite in the story....and when it gets infected, depending on your body response, you can develop sepsis in a couple of hours, not even a day....and when you get sepsis you will at best end up with your limbs amputated as your body will literally reject them. It's fucking scary.

[@mr.onethirtyeight5088]

Bruh sepsis is no F'N joke it's like 63%-37% you're dead! No joke!

[@wompppwompwomppp]

My best friends cousin was on the "monsters inside me" show (i can still find the episode on youtube) he contracted a parasite or something from playing in outside dogfood that they think a raccoon was eating from and infected. He then got hit with a few other things that doctors said was about as likely as getting hit by lightening twice. The poor kid has had so much damage that we will be wheelchair-bound his entire life and most likely wont mentally age past like 4. It was a freak thing, but makes ya paranoid. If it makes you feel any more relieved, technically there have been a few survivors of rabies but its just incredibly rare

[@JustAnotherBuckyLover]

Um. I've had sepsis twice, and still have all my appendages. It just depends on how severe the sepsis is, and how promptly it's treated. Yes, sepsis is terrifying and deadly... but not *everyone* ends up "at best having limbs amputated".

[@ctobolsk]

I’ve actually had some experience with both. I used to work for animal control and got bit by a feral cat. I had to go through all the rabies shots, since the cat got away. There were two shots in my hip that were extremely painful, although the rest of the shots were not that bad. The whole thing was very expensive, although my work covered the cost. I also survived septic shock. I was in a coma for a week and in the hospital for months. I thought I had a really bad flu, but I was actually septic shock. Fortunately my parents called, and when I wasn’t making any sense on the phone, they called 911. I had to have my leg amputated due to the medicines they had to use to save my life. The medications shunted all my blood to my vital organs, taking it from my extremities. Some sepsis survivors lose all four limbs. They determined it was most likely caused by a scratch from my cat. I was told I had a temperature of 106 and virtually no blood pressure when they got me in the ambulance. But besides rabies, the other thing that scares me the most is prion disease, like CJD. It’s another disease that ravages the brain.

[@sourgreendolly7685]

@@ctobolskThat's so scary, I'm glad you're still here! When my grandfather had sepsis, we didn't think he'd be coming home. He kept having short psychotic episodes from the different antibiotics (apparently this can happen, most often in the elderly) and he hasn't fully been the same since - bit slower, more easily confused, and more forgetful. Pretty sure I know where that's going unfortunately. Any sort of dementia sounds like absolute hell, it terrifies me.

[@duckupine4345]

I've got bitten by a stray cat that wondered into my garden last summer. It barely left a scratch, it was almost unnoticable. But I knew what the consequences could be, so even though my family laughted at my panic I went to the doctor and got directed to the epidemiological hospital immediately. Funnily enough even though I was stressed I didnt go to the hospital the next day after a visit because it was quite a long ride from my house and I dont have a car and I wanted to sleep in (yes, I put my life in danger just to get 2 more hours of sleep). But I went there at the second day after the visit and got prescribed a vaccine. You take it in 5 doses, each in first 3 days of the bite, 5 days from the bite, a week, two weeks and a month. It was pretty inconvinient to go there so often, but hey, I possibly got my life saved and also now I have 5 years of being pretty much untouchable by rabies virus. So moral of the story - if you ever get bitten, scratched or even just licked (the virus is in the saliva) by an animal that you don't 100% know is vaccined for rabies GO TO THE FUCKING HOSPITAL IMMEDIATLY. And if you are especially endagered for bites from wild animals because of your job or your hobby, get the preventional vaccine. In USA its probably very expensive, but in most of Europe its really affordable and could literally save your life.

[@estelle5798]

I did a report that involved researching prion diseases, and rabies has terrified me since. My mom's friend's dad caught mad cow, and died within a couple months. He wasn't even the same person by the time he was last coherent.

[@whocanitbenow13]

“Babe, wake up! Cadaber just posted!”

[@einienj3281]

I think Mr. Cruel is a cop

[@emilythigpen2132]

Bro rabies is my worst fear ever. Anytime anything bites me it scares the crap outta me and I freak out. It’s so scary and it’s worse hearing what it’s like to experience it

[@Austin53095]

Hell ya bro glad the new video dropped love the content man !

[@adamwest3637]

For real those Cook Unity meals are really great. I got a few of them from work and they were all like a meal from a restaurant. The only downside is they don’t last long in the fridge so you gotta eat them within a few days.

[@asuka_the_void_witch]

so kinda like normal food then :D

[@crabelol]

I actually lived near the mother of one of Mr cruel victims where she ran a restaurant, she made me call her grandmother in her native tongue and gave me free food. Unfortunately she was often laughed at, ridiculed and called crazy by the people unaware of her situation as I'm sure you can imagine she was never the same after, her restaurant closed down a few years back and I hope she's doing well

[@aurawolf664]

if i wouldve stumbled upon this post, my first though wouldve been "neat creepypasta bro" but somehow youve managed to turn it into an interesting 30m narrative. bravo sir!

[@shivangsharma555]

My nights gonna be amazing! Thanks for this cad!❤️❤️💯💯 Keep it up!

[@kitlow2970]

she needs to go to the police. losing the details of one officer doesn't mean she can't go to another police officer. she should be raising hell about it if she is so sure instead of wasting time posting on reddit .

[@penguinvic9892]

She would have to be on top of the detail a lot better than her written submission which is filled with errors, including poor presentation. Saying she had the same coloured hair as the victims when they all had different coloured hair is a real read flag. She also repeats a couple of errors from the public record that police automatically know are probably false doesn’t help her case either, i.e. inferring the offender is a serial killer. Likewise the probable reference to an interstate disappearance in 1992, is highly unlikely to be the work of the offender, i.e. completely different m.o. Police interviewed her once and didn’t follow up. Given what she wrote, that’s no surprise.

[@ericalexander5890]

It's pretty easy to craft a story when you know the details.

[@ethribin4188]

Ahh yes. The rabbies reddit post. Definitely one of the more terrifying posts on the internet.

[@cherrypopscile3385]

Thank you Cadaber, for making me scared of a virus I'm sure I don't have because of a mild headache condition I've had for years.

[@juliana.x0x0]

Wow, I've basically lived most of my life as if I was in the early stages of rabies... Anxious, uncoordinated, mildly confused, a bit achy, and I actively avoid drinking plain old water.

[@MC.Jewelzz]

Shoot. Well you’re not alone cause I’ve been doing that my whole life as well 😭

[@asuka_the_void_witch]

anxiety sucs.

[@genedbd2517]

This episode is truly terrifying!!!

[@coffeeandtrance]

thanks for the uploads mate