Redefining Healing: The Synergy of Psychedelic Integration and Interprofessional Practice

In this “Voices with Vervaeke” episode, Terri Dentry and Cameron Duffy engage with John Vervaeke to explore the synergy between interprofessional practice and psychedelic integration. They discuss the 'psychedelic renaissance' and its significant role in modern therapy and research. The conversation emphasizes the necessity for a shared language and an integrative method across disciplines, integrating the four Ps and the 4Es of cognitive science. This episode provides an in-depth look at how these principles are revolutionizing our approach to mental health, the role of communities in health transformation, and their substantial effects on treating conditions like chronic pain and PTSD.
Cameron Duffy is a renowned expert in psychedelic integration counseling, focusing on the transformative potential of psychedelic therapies in mental health. His work is pivotal in exploring the intersection of psychedelic experiences with clinical practice, contributing significantly to the field with innovative approaches and deep insights into the mind-body connection.
Terri Dentry is a distinguished PhD graduate in interprofessional practice, known for her research on collaborative healthcare among diverse medical practitioners. Her work primarily focuses on chronic pain and PTSD treatment in refugees and asylum seekers, emphasizing the importance of teamwork and holistic approaches in patient care.
Glossary of Terms
Interprofessional Practice: Collaborative approach where healthcare professionals from different specialties work together for comprehensive patient care.
Psychedelic Integration: The process of assimilating insights from psychedelic experiences into everyday life, often through therapy.
Dual Diagnosis: A condition where an individual experiences both a mental illness and a substance use disorder simultaneously.
Transformational Process: A significant change in one's mental, emotional, or spiritual state, often following profound experiences.
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Quotes
"This is the beginning of a conversation that needs to grow and expand."​ - John Vervaeke
"The way we communicate and how this might evolve into a kind of philosophical language. [...] health treatment can evolve and is along with consciousness."​ - Cameron Duffy
Chapters with Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction
[00:01:00] Terri Dentry’s Background in Interprofessional Practice
[00:08:03] Cameron Duffy on Psychedelic Integration
[00:24:40] The Role of Collaboration in Healthcare
[00:31:37] Psychedelic Renaissance in Therapy
[00:47:42] Community Health Insights
[01:02:06] Future Directions in Healthcare and Consciousness Evolution
Timestamped Highlights
[00:00:00] - Introduction by John Vervaeke with guests Terri Dentry and Cameron Duffy.
[00:01:00] - Terri Dentry shares insights on interprofessional healthcare and the mind-body connection.
[00:06:20] - Terri discusses Cameron's holistic patient approach using 4E cognitive science.
[00:10:20] - Cameron and Terri discuss integrating psychedelic experiences in healthcare.
[00:20:55] - Discussion on the mind-body connection in pain treatment and patient understanding.
[00:31:40] - Cameron on the need for an integrative framework in the psychedelic renaissance.
[00:36:00] - Discussion on alleviating human suffering and broadening the dialogue.
[00:39:20] - Insights into historical approaches to mental health issues.
[00:44:20] - Terri and Cameron talk about mental health challenges and community roles.
[00:54:40] - Exploring therapeutic practices' potential in broader cultural contexts.
[01:02:06] - Terri emphasizes the global importance of an integrated approach.
[01:04:34] - Cameron expresses hope for the discussion's inspirational impact.
[01:08:14] - John wraps up, encouraging further conversation on the discussed topics.

[@rsandy4077]

0 seconds ago Dr John Vervaeke and Dr Robert Gilbert from Vesica institute and a rosicrucian need to have a conversation!! It would be very interesting for sure!!

[@anthonygarciaguitar]

Music as a language has the capacity to facilitate the integrative process. it connects to almost every tradition across all cultures. Scientific mathematical emotional, vibrational, dimensional, transpersonal and on and on

[@wheatley9601]

Music is the only language that everyone understands implicitly regardless of their subjective reaction to it. There's nothing more universally true than rhythm, intensity, pace, scale, highs and lows

[@mcnallyaar]

In my graduation open house signature guestbook, my high school music teacher wrote "Look no further for the meaning of life. Music is the answer."

[@thomasf.webber4933]

I loved how Terri brought it back to pain. John's question about how to approach these "problems" outside of the existing spiritual and psychiatric modalities is important. I wonder sometimes how much it's a matter of narrative within those modalities, or if there are some key insights that might open up transformation where it didn't exist before. I suspect community may play a role, especially since it's something very difficult to "prescribe" - though I think many would benefit from a healthy version of it. If part of our culture is to ignore distress/pain/irritation - how much of that leads to depression/chronic pain? How do our bodies respond to chronic stress, and how can we unravel the patterns that perpetuate it once we're forced to physically confront them? Psychedelics are a profound tool to get new perspectives and release old patterns, and I hope we can keep learning how to better use that tool using attention and mindfulness techniques. Thank you again for bringing that vision to reality!

[@colorfulbookmark]

The care of architecting the way of healing is very amazing talent. I always have honor and respect for the talent, they are so great people and I learn from them much ^^ I have revere to Dr.Vervaeke and his guests. The opinion difference is only phenomenal and all of pros in this video could share similar profession on academic perspective too ^^

[@jenniferbrockelman7118]

This is delicious! I just read Akil Palanisamy The T.I.G.E.R. Protocol (autoimmunity). Nice to hear medical docs bringing cognitive science into healing humans. Treating the symptoms is a failed approach.

[@honeymaru68]

Hey mind/body people! Mary Baker Eddy covered this ground already. Her book Science & Health was published in 1875. She was way ahead of her time.

[@Tectenitarius]

From Plato's dialogue Phaedrus 14, 274c-275b: "For this invention will produce forgetfulness in the minds of those who learn to use it, because they will not practice their memory. Their trust in writing, produced by external characters which are no part of themselves, will discourage the use of their own memory within them. You have invented an elixir not of memory, but of reminding; and you offer your pupils the appearance of wisdom, not true wisdom, for they will read many things without instruction and will therefore seem [275b] to know many things, when they are for the most part ignorant and hard to get along with, since they are not wise, but only appear wise." "

[@knoweagle888]

Same pattern since recorded history. The weight of consciousness drives the hordes into the cave. Nowadays one need not even appear wise. Just have followers on sm.

[@janthonycologero9206]

I've been waiting for years for this conversation. Psychedelics afforded me the insight I needed to break out of the materialist/physicalist worldview I had been sucked into. After disabusing myself of the fundamentalist cult like Evangelical beliefs I was indoctrinated into. I still had that, as you call it, black burning, a deep nihilistic frame took over. The new atheists taught me skepticism, for which I am grateful. It was a much-needed stepping stone to learn to ground myself to reality once again. As you say The taste for the transcendent had never left me though. Psychedelics afforded me the opportunity to open back up to reality in a way I did not know was possible. Synoptic integration has been life changing. Thank you for your work. I wish you many many years of happiness and productivity doing what you do best. Gratitude for you and for everything and every no-thing🍄💙✌🏼

[@missh1774]

Beautiful new path 💛 Thank you for bringing this living work to the foreground!

[@SuperRobotRambo]

I wish there were more examples of transformations that people actually went through. It would be good to have more context for how people have transformed. It’s hard to contextualize what is being said which I believe is important to this project or the practice could easily fall into spiritual bypassing. Hope this is expanded in further conversations.

[@mcnallyaar]

FanTASTic!!!!

[@TheMeditatingPhilosopher]

Great work and thanks for sharing! The papers sound excellent too! Using Shawn Coyne's language, pain, depression, anxiety, sexual or identity related insecurity or confusion, all are "worse fates than death" in the narrative of our lives. Using team science and collective understandings, literally, sounds very smart. What a synchronicitous posting too. I actually just signed up yesterday for a new clinical therapy as a practice for the next 5-6 months to work on trust and some other issues related to relating. It's a small-onto-world!

[@lashropa]

I love that you select and provide marquee quotes from the dialogue. A very warm touch. Looking forward to more. 👍

[@eqapo]

29:40 its almost like the coherence and intelligibility of the system care might lead to the coherence and intelligibility of a client's health to themselves -- say, co-evolutionarily.

[@dalibofurnell]

This was great 👍 looking forward to more conversations like this

[@projectmalus]

Great stuff and a "quick fix" of the person moving to quick fix of the system might work if it returns in a statistically favorable way for people. If the system has an embedded reason (unlike people apparently) or cause of suffering I think it would be a reduction of complex access to the selfie of the world in the knowledge pool, just as sequestering the energy for human selfies is a streamlining of engagement in dynamic complexity. There's a lot of inertia in the big schools admin department and trustees. Maybe they should take the psychedelics? Quill-tea, to start making a big quilt with.

[@themoralcube]

Very interesting guests, have not thought about this before.

[@Lucasvoz]

this was beautiful

[@sarahbarker1637]

This is exciting ! I"m in the company of ME/CFS for the second time and the symptoms are puzzling. they travel throughout the body changing daily . They affect my cognitive ,physical,emotional and spiritual well being. It feels a bit like trying to catch water ,elusive and fleeting sometimes. I feel sometimes it's an emotion not heard at the time it needed to be so the body brings out the big guns and floors you. It feels like a language problem between my body and mind or maybe intuition and the innate wisdom of it not being trusted ? I have recovered before so am on the trail of right behaviour and thinking ,sniffing out the clues :). I feel it just wants me to have my best happy life ,lovely conversation and good heart and strength to you all

[@oliverjamito9902]

What is strength? Only strength to come forth if strength not recognize in front! Many have physical strength in front! Yet going through the transformations...Clay Feet mixed with Iron going through the furnace the Wilderness of high intense heat of Fire pressures of Life! Many with physical strength riches nor wealth poking Thy Hearts! Many have blown their own Trumpets in their own walls comes crushing down in front of the Poor RICH YOUNG RULER Nations resting upon HIS SHOULDER! Is like...remember ye are not walking alone. Here ye ALL ARE...Came out solid DIAMONDS. Yes, now given ABLE and given New Eyes to see beyond...How else can ye stand in front? Nor if among us but not of us...making many noises in front! Yes...able to chew and spit out in the same time. Thy Offsprings preserve will say...remember HIS COMMANDS! From US can make many NEW UPON HIS FOOTSTOOL! For all old minds to come forth! Remember HIS HEART is being TAME with HIS BEAUTIFUL! Quenching HIS HEART! My Beautiful will say, who among have HATED Thee? Thy Beautiful will say don't belongs in front of Thee! Get thee behind Me! Ye all wannabes beautiful knows thy place behind HIS BEAUTIFUL! Gratitude and Honor and thank you my Beautiful!

[@badreddine.elfejer]

Nice alex grey painting !

[@Frauter]

❤

[@jonyspinoza3310]

🌞

[@Richard_Paradise]

❤👍

[@knoweagle888]

“I am profoundly mistrustful of the ‘pure gifts of the Gods.’ You pay very dearly for them.” CG Jung. Perhaps the trick is to pay dearly upfront 🤔

[@pneumaE]

Absolutely, such a fascinating quote and caution to relate to, preparation and integration are a life-long dedication for those ready for confrontation with the liminal states of consciousness.

[@knoweagle888]

@@pneumaE I think modern western culture is misguided in thinking anyone can “work” with these substances and derive benefits. There’s levels of states and stages. The Greeks had a kiddy pool in the eleusinian mysteries for the masses and the Cave of Trophonius for the “chosen”. Imo

[@pantherstealth1645]

👏👏👏👏👏👏🥳

[@dgreeofmeangiveitallucan2305]

Hedonistic is the key how the world view is and can respond to each every event that allows it to be the purists can be for filled. But the changing of the world view isn't going to be change cause "You" just talking about it. The relation to it is simple the body wants more than the mind does cause much of what is the problem is that there shamed for pleasures that could be simple or minor but dose with the kind of thought or way to think can corresponding corresponding is the world wide effect. And really quite talking on the subject like you not being in the one who doesnt give the god dam thing is novelty to where it's most needed and just cast out all the people of addiction you can not avoid being addicted to something or someone or some place it's just like a habit being built. But NO your not going include addiction with how it have to be the same again and again with people talking around the issues of what doesn't help the mass population in what events are having happen cause it is caused by the ones who have addiction that creates the understanding to bring the who reason why your thinking you can take available possible chance for what your really doing. And now you've be lucky if people catch the remark John made to be totally unwilling to go into what addictive nature hedonism is even to get somewhere you would be addicted no matter what there is if you everyone else wouldn't destroy the feelings of hedonism of addiction that no matter what you have to addiction is something that leads to so many levels and more talking about what doesnt work comes to work that people will not practice cause it all goes against addiction and how can we allow you all to take our high our lives and be the one to change the world views Sam Harris once said it would only take 3000 people to change all of it without consideration of the rest of the population all you do is talk and trying to be charming but it's opposite to where people are not going to be enough in how beilef system into addiction is how most people have lived and have lived and doesn't go away and need to be left alone from people like you and your foundation. You don't get to be voice in people heads as archetype in people's head at least not mine after I put great hope in that you John were on the right path Your guest with the painting in the background is prefect to have as archetype and be where is that allows the physic is needed more that just one by one or something that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that tj mistake after that many that's if your typing that left thumb hits T right thumb hits H and left hit A but what is funny is the right thumb hits the T both sides hit the same letter you keep pressing T with one side only