Exploring Dead Games 2

Back for another round of dead games, this time even deader. Will I find anything cool? Who knows.
Intro 0:00
VIRTUAL PARADISE 00:18
WORLDS 10:30
THERE 23:54
SECOND LIFE 30:13
IMVU 38:02
SUB ROSA 43:52
MERIDIAN59 46:24
Conclusion 52:41
Music: pastebin.com/vE9xuSrX
Twitter: / redlyne_
Discord: / discord
Twitch: / redlynenine

[@Lonerly_]

You know that the game was never big when you can set your name as just any random name without numbers or underscores.

[@manboy4720]

(username taken)

[@valletas]

Yes lonerly6969

[@mkseed9188]

Okay, unknown-bf1sy

[@Christian-Fig]

haha me fig

[@cat_Connoisseur]

@@valletas hi jack frost

[@AJGundam]

My grandmother used to play 2nd life. I remember sitting with her as she made all sorts of things from outfits, avatars, to houses. She was very talented and made some money off of commission making things for people. I miss her and would give anything to have that time with her again.

[@poopyscoopy6984]

I once saw a furry selling their butt in second life.

[@genericfriend2568]

That's pretty cool, I play Roblox for the fashion aspects alone

[@survived4679]

ratio bozo

[@PP-ok2xt]

@@survived4679 jesus christ man why do you have to be like that on someone who misses their dead grandma?

[@Kingcobra6699]

I remember my father playing Quake 2 on easy mode - and yet steering the mouse clumsily 😂. It was very wholesome, still. It was nice seeing him so immersed and free of every days sorrows. But from time to time he got stuck and I had to overcome an obstacle or enemy for him. But eventually he beat the game 👍😊 I want him to play RDR2. But I only have it on PS4 and he never used such a controller. I am afraid it might be to hard for him. Let's see..... Could be nice.

[@dafire9634]

"I hate homework and bein grounded" immediately followed by "im 30" was unexpected comedy

[@Churchgrimm]

I mean if ya think about it, community service and house arrest are basically homework and bein grounded at 30

[@expressnumber-5049]

PhD candidates having to live with their parents

[@Gammaaf]

That was hilarious. Almost spit out my drink.

[@HittokiriBattousai17]

@@expressnumber-5049 Sadly more common than usual

[@olivercharles2930]

Unexpected comedy?? I think comedy is already inherently unexpected.

[@Fuhrious]

I love how in second life everything is huge, because all of the people make their avatars 7 1/2 feet tall

[@lovesick_loser]

people used to call my avatar child-sized cuz i made it true to my real height using the in-game measurement and not just based on a hunch... now my avatar's a petite 5'10 instead!

[@Pyxis10]

I used to use a cat avatar. Not a furry one, an actual cat with an army hat and a cigar smoking problem. Going through SL was like being a world of giants and it was hilarious.

[@DarkCloud3000]

Nah, that's just the default height. Don't get why they haven't tweaked the height system.

[@Windclaw]

Well...default height settings are around 6' in general, with 7' tending to be to most accessible. Trust me, you think THAT'S big, you REALLY don't want to see some folks avatars. I've seem some that would make Andre the Giant look like a dwarf...in...all departments.

[@kenirainseeker539]

Yup, furries tend to be a bit smaller than humans in my experience

[@Zestieee]

Virtual Paradise legit seems like a game that a group of friends made for their own fun only and nobody else's

[@NOTTIBOPPINtwitch]

A lot of games that appear in videos like this are exactly that a group of friends sandboxing with no goal or direction. They have levels and world then free build,I know there was a successful game but I forgot the name it’s the main reason why there’s so many people and games like that

[@Zestieee]

@@NOTTIBOPPINtwitch it's peculiar that they go as far as coding and publishing a game and mantanining online servers if they just want it for their personal use, isnt it

[@julioaguilar7680]

@@Zestieee not really, me and my old friend had a full ios rpg in the store replicating chaos fighter gameplay just as a fun project

[@Zestieee]

@@julioaguilar7680 i just assumed it requires a lot of money to mantain servers and publish games, maybe it's not the case

[@rjwaters3]

@@Zestieee if noones on them doing anything, the overhead could be absolutely /tiny/, just the list itself, and the world itself is just on a harddrive somewhere completely shut down until someone joins. and actually "publishing" a game is only expensive for advertising reasons, many, many free options, and even steam only charge $100, which you get back completely once your game makes $1000, for a game as old as most of these? could easily be running off some dudes old computer, occasionally changing a part out and doing some code maintenance if someones new setup cant manage to load in or something breaks.

[@gravel100]

the game you went into where the players kept asking who you were is like going into a bar that only like 3 local old men are in and they all look at you like you've just walked into their house despite the sign on the door saying OPEN. i hope both these bars and these video games never have to shut down

[@darianstarfrog]

Beautiful really

[@theLyzhendricks]

almost brought a tear to the eye it'd didint cause I'm. ot a bitch but almost

[@No_True_Scotsman]

That has happened to me on Discord a few times

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

@@No_True_Scotsman That's literally what joining a small public server would feel like, it clearly has it small community of friends that you're a stranger to

[@ipaddleYOass]

I kinda wish hed ask that guy more questions. The guy seemed to know more about the game

[@markymark3668]

The man in the picture, AKA "2000's relevant musician," is indeed a 2000's relevant nusician, Sting, his solo act, after leaving The Police.

[@mercster]

I was hoping he was joking.

[@ThiagoHenrique-rm2mb]

I thought it was billy idol but is close enough

[@olivercharles2930]

@@mercster Why would he be joking? I am sure these musicians are well known in some circles, but not really in all circles. Personally, I have only heard of the Police, and not Sting.

[@mercster]

@@olivercharles2930 Stay in school, don't do drugs. 👍

[@olivercharles2930]

@@mercster funny coming from some guy that looks like a hippie in rehab.

[@Dokeyo1001]

Random fact about Second Life, I remember it being sponsored by Rio Salado College, a college my dad has worked at for around 20 to 30 years now. I don't remember much, but I remember my dad working on cpr training and my mom was a dj in the game, making actual money from it.

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

Cool

[@juggernautz181]

🤝 my mom also made money selling textures for avatars in the game

[@ph0nez]

'Psychochild' in Meridian 59 was one of the developers, who passed away in 2021. What you found at 49:15 was a memorial dedicated to him.

[@insertnamehere1258]

That’s sad, but also kinda wholesome that they honored him.

[@seeker6514]

Honestly, kinda nice they went back in just to add a tribute. That's some real love between devs, coworkers, and friends if that's how it happened.

[@perfectopubg7320]

hwat game he do

[@shetto]

did you used to play meridian?

[@LilFabsTV]

How do you know ? That’s a nice piece of information

[@stray_cat87]

Playing dead games, is like unearthing lost civilizations, obscured and untouched for a long time. like visiting a ghost town that's been abandoned for god knows how long, it's so fascinating.

[@clray123]

In short it's like visiting Zuckerberg's Metaverse. Well, except for the fascinating part maybe.

[@stray_cat87]

@@clray123 indeed

[@wedgedwalnut0125]

It’s even weirder if you played or had history with the game, it’s like going back to your childhood home with everything in the same place it was, but no signs of life remaining there, just the memories of that place you have saved in your head

[@philithunder9667]

Same vibe as visiting sn abandoned school or something. Imagining all tha stuff that may have happened there

[@skycatlive1576]

LONG TIME?! Play new world all the time

[@xelsor]

What I really find interesting is the fact, that someone built those places. He sat there with the 3D program and placed the trees, formed the caves, and arranged the chairs and tables. But it was so long ago, hard to find who built it; not many people "witnessed" these structures, with deep sadness, you can say people did this and put a lot of work into it, but only a few were able to appreciate this work.

[@planescaped]

The worlds I spent hundreds of hours making, decorating and perfecting in Terraria that only I have ever seen, feel less melancholy than these to me. I guess because these online worlds were meant to be shared and experienced by others, while my Terraria builds were just for my own amusement. They were for me, these are for other people, and are going unused.

[@somewhataddicted7685]

​@planescaped and on top of that perpetually open. Just waiting for a single soul

[@HotdogSosage]

Yeah this is very challenging for me to process and not feel sad for

[@beawhitt2533]

You including IMVU into this made me start dying of laughter. I remember all the drama that revolved around that game. One of my exes I would constantly catch him on there chatting up underage girls, about 1k REAL money spent in the game so he could spoil people with virtual clothes and gifts. It was a hot mess, those were real people, but the likelihood of them being actually in Discord or a private DM chatting it up and ignoring you is a lot higher than you think LMAO

[@DarkKeybladeMaster23]

yeap exactly that sounds like the imvu i remember. people just constantly in the private messages/whispers or ignoring you if you had "guest_" infront of your name. god i dont miss that cesspit

[@benamisai-kham5892]

This is such a common story it's insane 😭😭😭 imvu was just grimy and full of that shit

[@RoamingApollo]

Naw, fr. I met my first love on there and uh... lot had happened. Still, I miss IMVU classic. Especially, Pulse. People would talk mad sh*t there and it's just funny now that I'm in my 20s, how we took those things pretty seriously. All that drama for NOTHIN'! I don't understand how it'd be considered dead though. The same peeps I know come on here and there. But I guess eventually, we'll get older and look back with a new perspective. The people traumatized me though! So many wicked memories.

[@suneater_zeef050]

and now you try to log on and it's advertising nfts. can't wait for nfts to be the thing digital archaeologists find online in future

[@josesaurin]

It’s so refreshing to see someone cover WORLDS without shitting their pants and blowing their load about how SCARY and LIMINAL and EERIE the game is.

[@WorldsButi]

As a Worlds regular I support this comment with MY HEART AND SOUL. Thank you!

[@crypticcorvid]

Yeah not a lot of people seem to enjoy the early-net look sadly, lol.

[@exist4046]

Worlds is fuckin amazing. I love the early web look, it's so fuckin crusty for what it is. I adore that

[@qwopiretyu]

​@@exist4046it's honestly shockingly good looking for it's time period.

[@Monorat]

I hate those KZbinrs who milk the LIMINAL, NOSTALGIC, MELANCHOLIC, EERIE, atmosphere of old or underground video game titles very obviously just for the sake of attracting more attention.

[@JoshaSolomon]

Sub Rosa is such a shame, looks like it could have been a really fun little time.

[@willowism]

it was :(

[@drjian6852]

As someone who has spent the last 5 years playing it, yeah. It was really well made at one point, and had amazing potential, I don't think I've ever seen a game with more organically integrated mechanics, it was also pretty active, and had an *extremely* dedicated playerbase that was way larger than it was now, people, including me, saw huge potential and just latched onto the game, we knew we had something special. The simple mission system and detailed, open map where you'd trade cash for a disc allowed endless possibilities for what could happen, carefully-planned double crosses, hostage situtations, abushing already-dealing teams, and clean deals, anything could happen, think of one of those "player generated" story games like DF or Nethack but in 3D. And then world mode came out, it turned the game into a dull-RDM casual fest on a barely-detailed map made of cubes where you'd get gunned down at every possible instant, whether it be trying to even get a job or walking down the street. Later updates completely removed the previous mission system which held the experience up, dumbed down the graphics, and completely broke physics, and now the game is pretty much abandoned. Round mode is still there, but a lot of mechanical changes have just made shooting people and getting the $$$ easy as pie, so there's barely any activity. TLDR: Good video on how the game died. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4qVaal5d7R4gqM&t

[@raspymorten]

Criken and his band of friends used to play it a ton. All of their streams/videos on it were all bangers.

[@gart__]

It is still a fun time, we host events every so often, tons of fun. Is a shame the community is so small.

[@bugpocket]

​@@drjian6852 Sub Rosa died?? I playee it like 8 months ago and I didnt see that, a2 maj....

[@Desitos]

All these companies sponsoring these extremely small worlds that were practically dead at their peak is almost a 1:1 mirror of the Metaverse today.

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

It's never a not a dumb comment day in the comment section of this video

[@NyanCatHerder]

To be fair, the one with the most licensed content and advertisements, "Second Life", was genuinely pretty large at its peak. The game had over a million users who were, collectively, spending tens of millions of dollars a year. You can definitely tell that time period has come and gone, with a lot of areas that look frozen in the pop culture of the late 2000s, but the idea actually makes some sense. It tapped into a large niche of players who enjoyed the social aspects of MMORPGs, but found the actual gameplay annoying. The rest of the games either have significantly less licensed content, seem like they might have paid for the content to advertise the game (like BowieWorld), or seem highly likely to be using the IP without any actual licensing.

[@sexisquidward]

I was a crazy Hanson fan back with Worlds 3D chat. The band actually hosted a CHAT in Worlds and it was weird. It was like an AOL. I was like 13 and mastered the custom avatars somehow. I remember I loved being a pool so everyone could stand in me 😂

[@jmjedi923]

Kinky

[@Weird.Dreams]

Were you 13 or were you not 13?

[@Hot-Read3165]

​@@Weird.Dreamswere you 13 because you were a pool or were you a pool because you were 13?

[@olivercharles2930]

​@@jmjedi923 Ngl, that is a bit... yucky considering the sentence before they said "I was like 13".

[@jmjedi923]

@@olivercharles2930 I mean I guess, but it's also a joke so I'm not going to feel bad about it

[@memenationalcentre]

this is such a hidden gem of a channel!

[@lostinthesauce2477]

Truly is

[@-sanju-]

Agreed. Like most of us here I found this channel through the part 1 of this video and in my 11 years of watching youtube I've never subbed to a channel so fast.

[@RemoWilliams1227]

​@@-sanju- same, true.

[@Amahankage2004]

Agreed, great long form content.

[@noahtheanimationguy3695]

A Gemerald?

[@LostParadise_]

If you continue this, I'd love to see more interaction with the few people you do find on these games. You really get to wonder who they are and what they're doing on a literally dead game

[@UltimateCarl]

Ditto. And as long as you're respectful, most people who play these sorts of games are usually thrilled to explain it and their interest. You can meet some real characters in these games. It's fun!

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

On one hand, it'd be cool to have some insight, on the other, who has the patience to sift through these places.

[@SgtFunBun]

@@anotheryoutubeaccount5259 surely many, i mean you left this comment under an hour of exactly that lol

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

@@SgtFunBun Hmm

[@Gatorade69]

Go back to entrance

[@RedBanditGTA]

Seeing the old music news was so interesting. Its literally a time capsule or like time just suddenly stopped one day and everyone vanished in a spooky way.. its so cool

[@the_Googie]

the excitement u have when revisiting gogie is amazing

[@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034]

I love how these virtual worlds tend to look like someone's fever dream mixed with advertisement and teen angst.

[@bluemooninthedaylight8073]

Truly the promised world of cyberpunk.

[@Xelarious360]

Yeah that's just the 90s

[@frostieisme]

The fact that the Googie Room made a return made my heart grow three sizes

[@the_Googie]

i need more googie content

[@SamOfTheShadows]

@@the_Googieholy shit it’s googie

[@PsycosisIncarnated]

@@the_Googie googie!!!!!

[@zapp145]

I absolutely loved Sub Rosa back when mission mode was still playable and seeing it randomly pop up after a bunch of 90s/early 2000s virtual chat rooms was painful

[@amnesiacguy]

i feel so sad that i missed its glory days. lifelong regret. Schlatt’s video and Jerma’s playthrough will remain as time capsules i guess

[@MortyFoodReviews]

I miss sub Rosa.

[@scpjinchuriki3295]

It’s a “you had to be there” type game. Open world was kinda cringe but round mode was peak, and some dude would host mini games on weekends sometimes with a zombie mode around 2019 I think.

[@TheForeverClown]

That track at 50:07 - amazing piece of music and love that you noticed it !! The music was composed by Gene Rosenberg who did the score to Furcadia as well!

[@theghostofvarresh]

Do you know the name of it because it is really good

[@StriderSeven]

@@theghostofvarresh I found track on KZbin that you want - meridian 59 ost 69 walk 7

[@bigjoegamer]

@@theghostofvarresh "Meridian 59 OST - 69 Walk 7". I think "Walk 7" is the name of the song.

[@theghostofvarresh]

@@bigjoegamer thanks and it is

[@bigjoegamer]

@@theghostofvarresh You're welcome. Enjoy the music and God bless you 🙂

[@tehbertl7926]

9:19 Wow, I can't believe it, 3DEE is in here! 3DEE/3DWorlds used to be an offshoot of Active Worlds that ran on its own server with a couple of worlds. I think the creator paid for a license for an old version of the AW software to run it. It's partially a recreation of the Dam Square in Amsterdam, and you're correct that it's Dutch. It ran from about 2000 to... I have no idea when. What you're visiting here is a backup of the main world, and the main area has barely changed since my first visit. Those little shops have always been there, and have always been broken and unused, lol. I was active on there from 2001 to about 2008, as a young teenager. It had this small but great community of about 50 people from all ages between 10 and 60, and we used to have IRL meetups once or twice a year. It was awesome. A young, hormone-laden teenage Bert dated with a bunch of the girls on there. As a socially awkward teen who didn't really fit in at school, it was the perfect place to escape to when I came home. The world itself was really only secondary to the community experience, since a lot of us logged on and chatted on there on a daily basis. Nonetheless there are a lot of things in there that you missed: a pyramid-shaped night club behind the Palace On The dam, where we could listen to music (one of the members ran a streaming radio show every week, Radio 3DEE) and dance, and we even had a couple of New Year's parties in there. There was a swimming pool that way as well. In another direction there's a cinema that played some movie trailers. Remember, this was before KZbin, so it was very impressive in those days. Every easter we had an easter egg hunt where they were hidden all around the Dam square. There were also a bunch of other worlds, mostly from members who wanted to experiment with building in their own world. The main world didn't have any building; I don't think flying was even enabled for non-moderator members. We also had a bunch of themed worlds throughout the years, mostly for Christmas. I'm still in a Facebook group with most of the regulars from 3DEE from back in those days, but we barely talk anymore. Everyone grew up, moved on, started living lives of their own. Still, it's nice to be reminded of this place.

[@ollieg73]

This was really interesting, thanks!

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

Hmm. Cool

[@dieontape]

So cool :') thank you for sharing

[@earthworm7292]

very nice

[@dizzy2445]

Man, this is so interesting. It's cool to hear abt what these places were like in their prime. Do you recognize OptimumPx? I wonder what they do on the server these days, maybe there is still a small community they interact with

[@OuterGalaxyLounge]

"I hate being grounded..." "I am 30". The dry wit on this man.

[@insertnamehere1258]

His wit is so dry that it absorbs water.

[@WritersBlockWill]

Absolutely loving the ode to Ferris Bueller you slipped in at 48:30. Nicely done. MIDI of The Smiths is total cherry on the top.

[@insanedestiny5164]

As someone who has played Second Life for about 15 years and also have made quite a bit of money out of the game too (By selling land on sims like you spoke about.) it's honestly kind of a spectacle for US who play second life as well. My group of friends and myself will randomly go to sims like that just to find some wild things, from completely intact and working water parks and a whole ass recreation of central park. A lot of this stuff can even come and go so I'm not even sure what is still around, There ARE some places you can go to Redlyne though like London and the Welcome Islands, there are some other places as well but I forget them.

[@tilley464]

Sub Rosa is a hidden gem. It’s surprisingly good or atleast was like a year ago. Underrated game

[@gart__]

This

[@Necromediancer]

It was played by Jschclatt, Jerma, Rimmy, and General Sam, not particularly hidden just forgotten

[@Bruh-ok1rq]

@@Necromediancer neglected by terrible devs

[@hardboiled2987]

Sub rosa is terrible. Was talked into buying it by a friens and instnalty regretted it.

[@vSilverXXProduction]

it's ded and neglected

[@Fr0gg0]

Meridian 59 was the bomb back in the days, it felt so unreal walking around in a "big" world where other players from around the world where walking around at the same time.

[@nazgulsenpai]

Yeah I remember when it first came out in the dark ages it was like $10 an hour or some shit lol. It was always a game I wanted to play but didn't have a credit card at 12.

[@fandore12]

the game set the standard for everquest and later, world of warcraft.

[@redspy3655]

Sub Rosa was so good game. Ill never forget how I met with other businessman and he said to us. "It appears you want this disc. You can have it if you..." In that moment he and his friends were hit by high speed car and start flying away. One of us run pick up disc we looked at him and he said "What? Hes dead. He won't need it in heaven. Were rich, now get to car an lets get out of it before someone hit us" When he started to run towards us thru road he was hit by car and send flying. This game is pure comedy it's like "naked weapon"

[@XxKurrashixX]

It's so hard for me to watch you navigating SecondLife and going to some of the forgotten sims. But-- I'm also glad that it was visited. There's a bunch of places that are much much better, but there's a lot of those W E I R D places like the ones you bumped into. I kinda wish I might have bumped into you while you were checking Second Life out to show you around to the higher quality sims. x3 Either way! Great content, and lovely to see all the old games.

[@FutaCatto2]

The game is very much alive. 23 destinations with over 20 people excluding adult rooms.

[@guillermoleon0216]

Oh man, IMVU. What a throwback. I used to play that a whole lot when I was like 12. I made some good friends there that I still speak with to this day.

[@JackTheNoober]

I thought IMVU sounded familiar. Never played it myself but I remember seeing a lots of ads for it when I was younger, around 2005 maybe. I think some girls on my class played it. Creating different avatars and styles etc and showing them off to each other. I had heard of second life too, rest of these games I've never even heard before.

[@Vert-.]

⁠@@JackTheNoobersame here, sounded familiar but i’d never heard of second life until recently. I was 10 in 2005 and only ever played PS2, always thought IMVU was a girls game lmfao

[@bartdude82]

@@JackTheNoober Oh god those IMVU ads were everywhere along with SmileyCentral and CursorMania lmao 😭

[@Horible4]

Sadly none of the players he saw in the rooms were fake. IMVU tended to attract socially awkward people and now they're basically the only ones left on the platform. People that are so bad at socializing they can't even talk to someone through a keyboard unless they know them. These days they're AFK/ignoring you and just using it to ERP with their virtual SO. You still can find some rooms where people talk though, so it's not really a dead game even though it seems like the majority of the players online are bots. Wouldn't recommend it in the slightest.

[@Adri-ny9gk]

Me and my firends used to play IMVU around 2018 and the community there is just the best

[@AdamKlownzinger]

You’re a pleasant blend of funny and not over-the-top, which is super important in longform content like this. I’m a new fan

[@drb0mb]

but it was "this is how my family cracks jokes" type of stuff and it was a little cringe, like... have you ever left your home city or turned off the sopranos reruns?

[@gabrielv.4358]

sure

[@mybestfriend13]

sure

[@oldmarjin]

same

[@PaulReed]

Second Life seems to be the same as it was when I played it about 10 years ago - full of places to spend real money after the game went popular and a handful of people made a lot of money fast. That and watching everything load in so slowly you could probably make a game of guessing which textures would load next.

[@creqmpufff3069]

i absolutely love this channel. i discovered it from the first "Exploring Dead Games" video and I've just got done watching the Dark Games Iceberg series. i love the humor and chill vibes, so i subscribed and cannot wait for more videos :)

[@Seallbay]

The Millionaire creation in Virtual Paradise was actually really well crafted; especially with the in-game episodes

[@adithyavraajkumar5923]

Right? I was blown away by how much dedication they put into it.

[@Churchgrimm]

Absolutely crazy amount of effort, I can tell the people involved really cared about this. I always love seeing really weird but clearly very sincere ways that people express themselves. That being said, who the tf even has to think about a bar of metal being an ingot?

[@euclidYT]

​@@Churchgrimmpeople who existed before minecraft

[@pointblank25]

Being a player of Second Life since 2006, it's always fun to see a new person's perspective of my weird ass game. You didn't do anything wrong, in fact you brought to light again how hard it is to get into it for anyone who's curious and doesn't have any friends to teach them the ropes. There's a ton of beautifully made places with the ability to use mesh, shaders, and normals, but because the game still has all the old stuff as well available to players, if they don't know what they're doing, they'll just end up mismatching literal decades of content, or paying Lindens (LBux) for stuff that doesn't look good, yet costs the same as something 10000x higher quality. It's a money hungry game to make it work right, but you end up getting amazing places like the Final Fantasy 7 Roleplay sim, which looks to the T from all three versions of the game. And it's not weird to enter a sim filled to the absolute brim with people, hundred strong though, constantly and consistently. It's just way too easy to just stumble across nothing but empty stores and strip clubs and see nothing worthwhile.

[@cantflyforshit]

Do you know why the game may have been slow to load any of the textures and objects? Is that due to the game engine or is it serverside?

[@purplepikminYT]

its crazy to me this YT guy who did the video thinks SL is dead or close to dead when it has x2 the active players then VRchat XD

[@FredCyber]

@@cantflyforshit Since pretty much everything in the game is usermade it's often down to creators being too fancy with their textures. A lot of assets use textures that are WAY too high-resolution for what they need to be (there's infamous examples of jewelry like rings that use several 2048x2048 textures... now imagine someone has one on each finger, and your PC has to download and render all of that in realtime!). You basically need to play with a heavily lowered render distance, and limit how many other avatars appear on screen. There are also third party viewers that optimize the game in various ways, I think the default second life viewer is better now but it's still not great especially by default

[@cameronmillspaugh1601]

I still don’t see the allure of the game at all though, just looks like a walking simulator

[@CatrickSwayze99]

​@Cameron Millspaugh it's a bit misrepresented here IMO. It has by far the most advanced avatar system in the internet virtual world games. You can make very advanced looking avatars but you need to know what you're doing and where to go and probably he also used an outdated viewer bc places in sl can look very good. And altho it looks like it's empty in this video, there's a pretty big user base and I'm surprised that he managed to meet nobody. Sl has very crowded places.

[@sj33zy64]

"3 questions in and i think i found the first bump in the road." such comedic timing on that. kudos!

[@pariah825]

Love your commentary on these videos, so entertaining and funny. Please do a part 3!

[@brthiccles]

Never been happier to stumble upon a channel than via your disturbing game iceberg. Keep up the fantastic work!

[@itsCaptainEli]

He's a real diamond amongst coal.

[@_PinkiePie.]

I just gotta say your profile picture is the best thing

[@ok2853]

It would be cool to do interviews with the active players to ask what keeps them on and about their community!

[@dizzy2445]

@Jamés Banios sadly ur prob right, but its so interesting to see people on these old games

[@aydenbeta1380]

@@jamesbanios9476way of life nowdays sadly, it happened to my community, so I don’t have any sympathy for the other hidden games anymore

[@dragoon6551]

​@@aydenbeta1380I don't think you understand the fundamental concept of how sympathy/empathy work.. If it happened to you before.

[@Chonkems]

The death of Sub Rosa is very saddening. It was a neat little Devolver title, and it was really damn fun.

[@doughboywhine]

I used to watch General Sam's videos on it, seemed pretty fun but it's a shame it ended in such a way

[@woofexe4050]

I am so glad you made a second video on this. Sad I couldn't catch it earlier but super glad I can watch it now 💙

[@cybernetikinfektion9257]

Worlds is like clicking on a sketchy gif ridden website and actually stepping inside of it

[@inrodu_1027]

very sad this is probably the last time we'll meet Googie...well, Googie will always be googieing inside my heart

[@googie15]

I'll always be here for you

[@TehUltimateSnake]

At least we still have Google.

[@pesty4592]

@@googie15 didn’t expect googie to be a destiny player lol

[@NeoDerikik]

Really appreciate the Trigun title card music. Very nice touch that both goes well with the vid and makes me feel all tingly inside from the fact that I've realized it.

[@rayceo4477]

32:27 “Hits Expert Island started off strong with me falling from the sky to some Christmas music.”

[@amory765]

This is a really niche part of collective internet culture I'd love to see more people explore but it's hard to imagine anyone else's take on it being quite as nailed on enjoyable as these. Both of your videos are a great balance of genuinely very funny and strangely touching, big appreciation

[@The_54Gaming]

20:00 I am a huge wrestling fan, so I can help. That poster was The Rock vs Stone Cold Steve Austin from Wrestlemania X7(17). This was their second match in their 3 matches at Wrestlemania. (The first being at Wrestlemania 15 and the last on wrestlemania 19. It took place on April 1, 2001 and it regarded as not only the best Wrestlemania of all time, but possibly the best Wrestling Pay-Per-View of all time. The match is infamous for Stone Cold turning Heel (or bad guy to non-wrestling fans) and siding with is long time rival Vince (Mr.) McMahon. There were also other posters, the one I saw was King of the Ring 2001. That PPV had Shane McMahon getting thrown through real glass by Kurt Angle. So this map was either made or last updated in 2001.

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

Cool!

[@nolangonzales8534]

I love the colorful/flashy 90's text font. Its so nostalgic. I wonder what it was like to play on one of these games back then.

[@HaplessOne]

I actually played imvu for a long while, and just letting you know most of those players arent fake, theyre just deciding not to talk to you and are whispering. Groups in that game are super exclusive for some reason and people can be hard to befriend.

[@yuri7885]

He returns, and getting a sequel has temporarily cured my depression. Thank you.

[@Unoriginal____Starwalker]

Hey guys, look, it's Yuri Ddlc!

[@damsen978]

Yeah no wonder you had depression judging your name and pfp.

[@thebest.1837]

@@damsen978 people when person enjoys something:

[@ergoth154]

@@thebest.1837 You can enjoy something without telling everyone you have self diagnosed depression lol

[@damsen978]

@@thebest.1837 It says a lot about you when you're using anime. Most weebs are depressed or attention whores that act like they're cute because they don't recieve the attention/validation they want. Also, the production quality on animes are mostly extremely cheap compared to the smallest of indie games and animation films. Remember the saying of story telling "Show, don't tell"? Yeah, anime does the exact opposite, it over-analyses everything and over-explains it to you as if you were a 5 year old. If that's what you like then you got very low standards of fun. So you can't be more wrong.

[@yunghypn062]

The guy saying the answer to which bar was an ingot was a "bump in the road" is either some damn good acting, or the clip actually comes from all the way back when crafting in games wasn't a thing yet 😂

[@jmjedi923]

Holy shit It just hit me how i learned what an ingot was, i just thought he was fucking stupid

[@Crestnutt]

Iron ingots existed before crafting games xD

[@jmjedi923]

@@Crestnutt yeah, but most people wouldn't know what was. How did you learn what they were called? Cause I learned fron minecraft

[@Crestnutt]

@@jmjedi923 not to sound old but i did not grow up on minecraft;) Iron ingots are a part of a lot of industrial businesses:)

[@mattymerr701]

​@@jmjedi923 iron ingots are a part of many games from before Minecraft existed. Also, crafting in games has been around for much longer too.

[@pigglewiggles58]

I have become addicted to this series. Cant wait for future videos into these nichè dead games. Great commentary my man.

[@DebuggedRobot]

amazin series, hope you keep it up! It's amazing to watch, and at same time, it saves a bit of internet history for people to remember

[@The_Real_Tone]

The map "Grid" was a recreation of the set from Tron: Legacy when he first gets teleported into the Grid and is sitting at the Grid version of his dads computer desk. Great movie that is welllll worth a watch

[@heidigreen8468]

Was gunna say everything you said. XD

[@spinosaurus2001]

TRON LEGACY SWEEP

[@beardalaxy]

Idk how this guy missed as many pop culture references as he did lol, kind of funny.

[@Hubertus587]

Please make 6000 parts very much love this

[@firelies]

Yes! I've been waiting for the return... such a good series.

[@Horzzo]

Okay, now this is the obscure part of history I enjoy experiencing. Ya got my sub good sir.

[@NodokaHanamura]

Okay, as a AW, Second Life Vet and virtual world explorer, I have this to remark on the video: 1. Virtual Paradise was created, IIRC, by a collective of ActiveWorlds users, mainly the younger audience that tended to hang around AWTeen back in the day. The main dev was from the Netherlands if I recall right - It was made mainly because they were dissatisfied with the fact that AW has been on life support with no attempts by Rick Noll or anyone at AWI to do anything to make the platform competitive again (Not that you really could with a almost 30 year old engine without destroying a lot of historical works in AW). I was on VP for a time, but eventually moved on to continue my time in Second Life. The AW Userbase is a three-ring fuckfuck circus of partially deceased former citizens (I've been witness to quite a few in-world funerals and the sort, caused by the fact AW tended to attract older users), Users from after it got mainstream attention from Vinesauce and the sort, and people like me who come in ranging from once in a blue moon to semi-regularly. 2. Second Life isn't 'continually declining'. Our userbase (I speak our, because I'm one of the more prominent members of the community in SL) is still quite active, and we have more or less stabilized at around 30-40k average concurrency, with around 100k~ or so active users. There is a small community of SL Residents on twitter and other social media that are active and discuss matters in world. The prime reason SL gets the 'dead' moniker, and it's not unjustified in its' entireity, is because of the way SL is set up as one massive contiguous world, rather than seperate instanced worlds like VRChat or seperate individual servers like Activeworlds and the sort. There's lots of activity on SL, it just requires time to search and explore to find a place to go, which isn't really explained well to new users - something Linden Lab has been trying to fix. 3. IMVU is.. well, if people think SL is bad, IMVU is worse. It's called the sitting simulator for good reason and a lot of IMVU 'refugees' have moved to Second Life. The platform suffers from dated features, lack of updates or care from the developers, among others. Hell, their 'music' feature? Features songs from no later than fucking early 2010 if I recall. IMVU's only redeeming feature is that it has a mobile app, but good luck keeping people interested when your platform turns into discount dress-up that will get uninstalled in a month. 4. Worlds.com is infamous in the metaverse (Before people ask, this is considered a coloquiallism for all virtual worlds and the sort, and not related to just Meta's Horizon Worlds) for being host to patent trolling by the owner. Nexpo's Worlds.com cult video goes into detail as to why Worlds.com is still around, and into the patent trolling. Essentially, Worlds.com sued ActiveWorlds Inc, Linden Research (Second Life), IMVU, and countless other companies for infringing on their patent, which is vital to creating virtual worlds. Effectively, worlds.com shafted a lot of virtual world platforms because of greed, forcing these other companies to deal with both legal messes and paying out patent royalties. The patent was due to expire a year or so ago, I don't know if Worlds tried to renew it or anything.

[@masteryoda11467]

hundred acre wrist

[@Geeler]

You an interesting critter bro (thanks for the info)

[@cmf1402]

lore

[@FelineBlue]

interesting info, thanks. always interesting to hear from the perspective of someone involved

[@Furigou]

I'd like to hear the perspective of someone involved in all this, what's the target audience for projects like this in the current year? I thought it was just streamers or yuppies looking to trade "virtual assets", but apparently there's a whole community, so there must be a wide variety of targets the project caters to.

[@seff6533]

Something i remember from imvu is that if someone doesnt have guest next to their name it means they have the subscription, which gives them a "whisper" option. It basically just means they can dm each other in the room. I just noticed that all the players you thought were fake didnt have "guest" in their name so they were probably just talking to each other that way

[@bcmac6826]

*** Info on the WWF Worlds section at 19:54...* So the entire design of the place is the old WWF New York Restaurant/Nightclub that was in Times Square (You can see part of the WWF New York logo in the top left of the screen at 20:02. It was open from November 1999 - February 2003. The posters with Stone Cold & The Rock at 20:02 are for WrestleMania 17 which took place on April 1st 2001. However at the start of the WWF section there's a poster for King of the Ring 2001, which took place on June 24 2001. I guess that means they didn't update anything after June 2001 at the latest.

[@merrydukes4480]

I love this. Thank you for these weird worlds to explore.

[@EngineerMonkey-zp3yj]

Because of how sad it is (to me at least), I find it weirdly difficult to think about how many friendships were formed in some of these old worlds. So many people have seen their friendships slowly fade away, or said their last goodbyes to their 90s online friends. How many people are thinking about these old online friends today? Wondering how they're doing? It makes me feel sentimental and is almost enough to make me cry... No time for crying now though, because despite how sad it is, these people are probably doing okay these days! So that's nice to think about at least. Hope that made sense... also OldPete65 is a Superchad Supreme. 😗

[@gomogay972]

Internet archeology basically.

[@sirlimen333]

If you never met your "online" friends irl. Then they were never your friends.

[@EngineerMonkey-zp3yj]

@@gomogay972 Yeah.

[@grumpysphinx4911]

​@@sirlimen333 You can form deep connections without ever physically meeting, not to mention that for some people there might be huge barriers preventing them from being able to meet online friends in person like disability or the cost of travel if they live far away

[@KP-gs4fu]

I know what you mean. When I get on my old forums and see it’s been years since a friend log in, I get sad. Wonder what they are all up to these days.

[@walker3551]

@15:02 the 90s musician is Sting, he sang "roxanne" and "every breath you take" Both decent tunes

[@cwalden918]

That's what I was thinking too but I wasn't 100% sure. He's awesome

[@walker3551]

@@cwalden918 roxannnnne (you dont have to) put on the red light! Great tune😂

[@exloster9624]

Big Googie fan here. Sad to hear we're never seeing any more of the legend. 😢

[@reptarien]

okay that meme at 48:30 KILLED ME. I subbed immediately, you got me hook line and sinker.

[@synarthrose]

Worlds actually wasn’t “dead long before the server went offline”! I played it sometime last year, and it was online back then; it had a pretty substantial user base, they were all friendly and chatty. It seemed their community was actually pretty active and did events together and everything. I have no idea what happened between now and then, because it really wasn’t that long ago that I checked it out. I’m almost tempted to think there may have been another download out there somewhere that is the actual active one. Anyway, it was pretty cool, there was an avatar customizing place where I gave myself the body of a woman in a black dress and the head of a Canadian goose. It was quite the look

[@Scruffy-qi3ik]

pretty sure he joking about that directly about the poetry world. not the whole game

[@ExValeFor]

Wow you really got assblasted huh

[@op-nl7dj]

could be like covid lockdown differences maybe?

[@Karmy.]

@@op-nl7dj or the developer's decision to get into NFTs

[@op-nl7dj]

@@Karmy. rite, deadass forgot about that

[@fntthesmth423]

39:56 I particularly love how they have an endless loop playing on the tv of Bakugo, a character who has absolutely fuck all to do with being a Gamer™ instead of like... Kirito or something

[@stylintylin77]

recently found your channel these videos are genius. I hope you are doing well and you continue to make videos because they are fantastic!

[@kylie1522]

Showed up on my recommended, love your style dude :) you just earned a new sub

[@Blankult]

Even though i have 0 nostalgia for any virtual world since i didn't play any, the idea of exploring these abandoned places is such a cool niche i didn't know i needed.

[@bugpocket]

Absolutely revisit Secondlife again, there's a lot of people and a lot more weird stuff to find.

[@Trever101]

This

[@Zero254]

gotta agree, you didn't use the map properly

[@destinymynx2954]

@@Zero254 yea def did not give it justice or use it right

[@randomtinypotatocried]

This makes me want to check it out again for nostalgia sakes

[@purplepikminYT]

shouldnt even be on this list XD game is far from dead and hasn't really lost ppl

[@coreygammell9044]

This is like the more modern version of seeing old ancient civilizations and wondering what it was like back then xD so interesting!

[@averdecheeseburgerc]

I listen to this when I need to focus at work. It’s relaxing, I think it’s your voice. Thanks for all the work you do!

[@eforham]

I love these , it’s like exploring abandoned forgotten cities.. even more sad these are human creation that will eventually be lost. Forever.

[@lovesinvein]

14:58 This is Sting. He was in a band called "The Police" that formed in the late 70s and disbanded in the early 80s. Most people would put them into the "New Wave" genre but they had a lot of inspirations from punk music and reggae. They are really popular so you've probably heard some of their hits (Every Breath You Take, Message In A Bottle, Roxanne, Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic, and a lot of other songs.) Think my favorite song of theirs is "Be My Girl - Sally" which is kind of a deep cut from their first album "Outlandos d'Amour". It's about an inflatable sex doll, cool song! Also cool video I love this kind of stuff.

[@russelljazzbeck]

I had to scroll way too far to find someone who knew this was Sting. Hopefully he sees it.

[@October666P]

Knew I recognised him, can't believe I was right

[@beardalaxy]

knew who it was the second it popped up. good stuff. sting's solo music is still incredible, i love his album "the last ship."

[@macintalkshow]

I know Redlyne's a few years younger than me, but I was genuinely surprised he didn't recognize Sting. WHAT ARE THE SCHOOLS TEACHING THESE DAYS?

[@beardalaxy]

@@macintalkshow he's older than me and i recognized sting instantly lol. i guess thinking more about it though, none of my friends would recognize him just by his face.

[@wiiagent]

keep this series going man! good stuff!

[@08fishsticks]

"3 questions in and i think i found the first bump in the road" is my new meme. thanks for that one

[@oniinu]

your voice, humour, and editing style really sells this interesting concept of a series. please make this be a big thing you do

[@Unoriginal____Starwalker]

I am so glad i found your channel. Everything about it is fantastic, your accent, your content, your editing! Thank you for being here!

[@beltokashe9790]

I loved all 53 minutes of that. So good.

[@Totally_Bonkers]

i got a yakuza jumpscare and a wise mystical tree jumpscare. 10/10

[@Jeagles]

At 20:43 appears what seems to be the BT logo. So BT doesn’t stand for Big Time, it stands for British Telecom, one of the telecommunications companies in the UK. Edit: research reveals that BT Openworld was a former brand name for BT’s ISP division. It’s unclear when they stopped using the name but it seems to place that map around the early 00s. Why such a random game was presumably endorsed by BT I have no idea.

[@mattd6085]

Early internet was wild, companies were jumping on anything as advertising and sponsorships was still novel and unexplored

[@LyricNear]

I'm obsessed with this series. I just know that for some of these games, these videos will be the most clear footage that'll ever get saved of them. And I'm impressed with how well you manage to cover these empty worlds while keeping the videos entertaining.

[@Dr.Quarex]

Jesus you destroyed me with the Cameron Staring At Painting out of nowhere. Absolutely perfect.

[@toast4899]

"legally different" is a hilarious answer

[@theotherjared9824]

Ghost towns are always fascinating not just for their frozen in time aesthetic, but for the often interesting story everyone up and left. Video game ghost towns like these are no exception.

[@glacier_official]

I know realistically there are only so many “dead” games but man I love this and the first video, I’d love to see this be a semi-regular series.

[@addy9961]

And most modern games are hosted by big companies now too so when they die they will definitely just shut down and not by left for this kind of digital archaeology which is kinda sad

[@1xxritualxx181]

@ 3:55 its literally the scene from Tron Legacy when the main protagonists gets sucked in, the only thing that gave it away was the keyboard covered in dust and my mind instantly shot to that scene, weird how the brain works sometimes

[@cup624]

i remember 2nd life taking out a rage in popularity. everytime i visit a website i would always see ads of it, at a time where virtual world games were taking a complete blast.... i've never considered taking a look at it, so seeing this genre get grave yarded makes me wonder about how incredibly fast time goes by.

[@HikaruYamamoto]

You should check it out, its really not that dead. its just so large that if you go somewhere random its likely going to be empty. He didn't check out the destinations guide and had his draw distance way too high so everything loaded too slowly.

[@somerandomname3124]

Worlds making a comeback as some weird nft metaverse vr hellscape in 20 years sounds like a nightmare yet is likely to happen which is the scariest thing.

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

Sounds cool

[@the_Googie]

@@anotheryoutubeaccount5259 anything involving nfts and crypto shit is immediately turned to garbage

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

@@the_Googie You're just saying that

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

@@the_Googie Oh, yeah, and weeb alert

[@thecoolestdaniel4554]

I dunno why i feel sad Maybe cause of the people who once enjoyed these games Maybe they made friends there

[@GiantMoth]

Watching this 7 months late but this is the first time in a while I got some time for myself. Been looking forward to watching this and was not disappointed.

[@redroft1444]

Lmao the staring guy from the early 2000s is Sting - it’s his album cover for “Brand New Day”.

[@NorthernNerk]

BT Openworld was the first name for British Telecom nationwide broadband service (now called BT Openreach). Many Internet Cafes in the early-2000s in England offered Openworld connections for 15p per minute on a pay-as-you use basis, or 90 minutes for £5.99. That's BT's logo in the game too.

[@liamme54]

Ah someone’s probably already said it but “The Grid” is what the world inside the “Tron” machine is called. The only half completed room there looks VERY similar to the room from Tron:Legacy that teleports people in and out of the Grid.

[@LPTVLive]

Came here to say this. Yes: It looks like someone attempted to re-create The Grid from Tron: Legacy - the structure that does exist is indeed a recreation of Kevin Flynn's hidden arcade office. And... That's all the further they got.

[@the_driver2067]

Love the no more heroes esque transition it's perfect

[@bibaislief]

Totally unrelated but I love the little Trigun transition sounds in between each game :)