Redrafting Round One of the 2005 NHL Entry Draft

Okay, we all see Sid as #1 in this one. There were a lot of great goalies taken that year.
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[@lmsports4915]

Respectfully disagree on Rask being the steal of the draft. Rask is great but Jonathan Quick at 72 was the steal of this draft.

[@ANTICENA571]

“Tuuka Rask was the steal of that draft. So good on Toronto, there’s no way they can mess this up” That’s what we in the business call ‘a really big oof’

[@xXPyrophorusXx]

They should have been gutsy and platooned the 20yr old Pogge, and 19yr old Rask.

[@Roller11111]

The amount that they spent on Raycroft and Toskala in those two years was just crazy. I think Vancouver spent less to get Luongo. Thanks JFJ.

[@PhillyLeotardo25]

Roller Cain but Gorton did so great!!!! Look he thought Brendan Smith was worth more than Zuccarello!!!! No, how about giving up Pionk and a first for Trouba......

[@-KYUSS-]

“Kopitar at 11 whoops” lol

[@LieuFang]

Fun Fact: if the Canadiens had done what Pierre McGuire demanded and taken Brulé, Kopitar would have been taken at 6 by Columbus. Their scouts had Kopitar down but MacLean said that when Brulé fell to them he couldn't pass on the opportunity. What disgruntled scouts leaked to the media however, was that MacLean didn't trust his staff and pulled rank. That it was a repeat of taking Zherdev over Vanek. So this is your hockey trivia reminder that if it weren't for Doug MacLean, Columbus would have had a top line of Nash-Kopitar-Vanek. Weird, I wonder how many Columbus fans I just depressed.

[@mperez9101]

LieuFang all 0 of them

[@primozvilfan2361]

Last time i checked Brule played in Austrian EBEL league ...

[@randdomize858]

I recall him saying a few times that Brule was his sons favourite prospect. That has to hurt if that was actually a factor in picking him.

[@calhorning9382]

Don’t worry it’s far from the only draft mistake we’ve made. Thank god Kekalainen has turned our luck around.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

we’d have voracek and couturier too... no trade for jeff carter. insane

[@iCoolaxe]

Bobby Ryan should definitely be higher imo.

[@TheRichardson711]

For sure. Four 30 goal seasons for the duck and 3 underwhelming yet solid seasons for Ottawa makes him a lot better than a many of these guys. His 2017 playoffs alone puts him above most of these guys.

[@rickto350]

Yes, BR's low ranking is the main issue I have with this list. Some cognitive bias in going on here since he was drafted 2nd, he is now being underrated. If he was drafted 62nd, he'd probably be much higher on this re-draft list.

[@37willdog]

Yeah I don’t understand how you place him below Hanzal

[@jacoblaurain8911]

Agreed ,that’s the only guy on the list I completely disagree on where he was placed

[@iCoolaxe]

@@37willdog Yeah, precisely. Ryan has over 200 more career points than Hanzal.

[@kennymillalk]

Bobby Ryan's way too low on this list. The James Neal pick is the lowest I could see BR going. Ryan is better and had a better career than everyone from then on

[@jasonmazurkiewicz6960]

The LA Kings really hit on this draft. It's definitely a factor in their 2 Stanley Cups

[@hockey5074]

Jason Mazurkiewicz facts

[@brendanc.234]

Calvin Vachon yes

[@baiqi44]

I was really p'd at the time that the Nucks didn't take Kopitar when he fell to us at 10. RIP Luc Bourdon, but Kopitar was ranked top 5 prospects that year and the Nucks skipped on him.

[@jaskaransaini4593]

Luc RIP we miss you

[@bozo8603]

Every time I hear Mason Raymond's name, I feel obliged to say that his mother taught me music in grade six. So yeah. Mason Raymond's mom taught me music in grade six.

[@ScarecrOmega]

I would love to have seen McGuire flip out seeing Price taken at #3.

[@Leafsdude_]

Not to defend McGuire, though I do seem to do that more often than not, but if you look beyond the meme, you'll remember that his problem with taking Price at #5 was that the Canadiens had a young Jose Theodore just starting his career. It's not like he went nuts the year before when Fleury went #1 or when DiPietro went #1 in 2000.

[@xxdeadboykingxxderek2906]

@GoldGravity all time winning goalie in montreal on underwhelming teams compared to Roy and others I'd say three is about right

[@loltrip2741]

@@Leafsdude_ "DiPietro went #1 in 2000." ☜ (◉▂◉ )

[@vkobevk]

@GoldGravity lol he carry his team to stanley finale in 2021 😅

[@hockeyman2379]

Not sure about that Sidney Crosby kid, we will see how it pays off for them

[@sgtandyboy4377]

I think kopitar reallly deserves to be 2nd. Even with Stanley cups he’s still underrated. He has more points than Bergeron while playing less games, and he’s ALMOST as good a Bergeron defensively (notice I didn’t say better). He plays on power play and PK. He plays some of the most minutes in the whole league as a forward. AND he has never played with elite wingers in his entire career but he still carries the team on his back. Even when LA is rebuilding Kopitar is still able to put almost a point per game with a old a declining Dustin brown and bottom 6 forward on his wing

[@clarkwilson9520]

Penguins have 3 guys in your top 11, and they've had 5 in the top 13. This draft was very good to Pittsburgh

[@endersdragon34]

Yeah they lucked out in getting Crosby... But without Letang and Hornquist late they never win 3 cups. That is good drafting

[@clarkwilson9520]

Bryan G had to first aquire James Neal to then trade him for Hornqvist.. And Letang wasn't that big for 2 cup runs. In 09 he wasn't top pairing, and in 17 he didn't play. I'd argue the pens win in 16 with or without him too

[@davidtuttle7556]

@@clarkwilson9520 no. In 16 without him you dont get past the Caps, the rat bastard.

[@narutofan3ify]

9:40 you can see exactly when Shannons brain just snapped due to Isolation lol

[@InsignificantNick]

That Pierre McGuire take on Price, ooof!

[@ryanmills9865]

Bobby Ryan is way too low for the longest time I thought you forgot about him

[@lgrw9883]

Ha ha Yeah I saw your comment before I watched, as soon as he said Andrew cogliano I was in agreement

[@AceMatthew25414]

Haters "hes so biased" *picks A King 2nd Overall and a Hab as a 3rd overall..* as A Canucks and Bruins fan

[@Destinedhellfire]

Me when Shannon gives us Oshie: “Alright, I’m liking the alternate timeline this is painting.” Me when he drafts Vlasic next to Ottawa: “Why have you forsaken us?”

[@lordrevanz16]

Shannon talking about how Pittsburgh got Crosby and Letang but arguably more impressive was the Kings landing Kopitar and Quick.

[@conservativecatholic9030]

I think both are huge deals and both got multiple cups.

[@chelious1973]

Crosby by himself is more impressive than Kopitar and Quick. Let alone Letang. Not too often you get a generational player and one of the top five ever to play. Let alone a All star defensemen.

[@primozvilfan2361]

@@chelious1973 2005 draft was called Sidney Crosby sweepstakes, so basically Pittsburgh hit only once, with Letang.

[@chelious1973]

primož Vilfan. Actually that's not true. They got Hornquist. Who got the game winner against Nashville in OT to win the cup. Also a few others in that draft. They basically cleaned house.

[@primozvilfan2361]

@@chelious1973 Hornquist was drafted by Nashville!

[@juliandwyer-bailey2300]

Gotta disagree about Crosby I think Joe Finley should have gone first

[@DARK24-7]

I'm sure Tor wished they kept Rask somehow.

[@davidlawrence9073]

When I was 11, my dad and I went to the Sens fanfest to open the 05/06 season. Like many fanfests they had a bunch of used gear as well as name bars for sale. For context 2005 was one of the first drafts that I remember the teams butting the name of the player they had drafted on the jersey. When I went to the name bar bin, the first name at the top was a red KOPITAR that I’m guessing they would have used had they picked him. To this day I don’t know why I didn’t buy it and I still can’t believe that they left him on the board.

[@Greugh]

Have you ever thought of doing a re-draft called ''What could've been'' for each team (or at least a couple of teams that you want). Basically you take a player drafted after the picks that let's say the Bruins pick. And make a team from there. Basically, what if the Bruins (and any other team) would pick Mathew Barzal, Brock Boeser and Thomas Chabot as their 13-14-15 picks in 2015. Then you make a lineup from those picks. You can go back as far as you want, but let's say you go back 10 years and try to make the best picks available for you team. You can make picks only in the 1rst round of you can go deeper if you wish if a diamond is found further back and your team has a pick available. I'm a Leafs fan but you can do any team you want.

[@conservativecatholic9030]

Gregory Brown that would be amazing but it would also be a hearty task.

[@j.nybergh7003]

Thanks for including the whole draft. Much more interesting and convincing like that.

[@nusa8498]

I absolutely love this series, Crosby totally lived up to the hype, and then some.

[@danieldosso2455]

We can only hope Edm management can figure out how to make this McDavid kid work AND make the playoffs

[@davidtuttle7556]

As did the guy that went before him in 04. Those two really are separated from the pack by a good bit.

[@shawnvincentvalen3135]

I love these videos, you should for sure do combined draft years and see who goes where

[@masontoleary]

You should make a "Current Rosters based on my redrafts" video. What would teams look like with the picks they were given knowing the best players available?

[@Looch1717]

Fun list. We agreed on a lot of picks, only did my top 10 though; Crosby, Kopitar, Rask, Price, Letang, Statsny, Quick, Vlasic, Hörnqvist, Oshie. Maybe Bishop should have been in there, but didnt because of how late into his career he started having an impact on the NHL. didnt quite know where to put him. Picked Stastny as the third forward because of being a center and having 3 70 point seasons in his first 4 years. He could have had like 10 60+ point seasons if it werent for injuries, and he has really solid numbers in the playoffs.

[@RAIDgames21]

I love the idea of like a cluster of years for a redraft. But that's because I'm addicted to these redrafts.

[@midimusicforever]

I love the asset management burn on Toronto!

[@beneasler8868]

Crosby and Hornqvist being first and last overall in the same draft and winning two cups together is just perfect.

[@agamotto5041]

Thanks for considering all rounds instead of just first , makes it much better .

[@OldishGoalie]

"Pierre, are you crying?" 😆 You had me rolling on that one!!

[@Yung_Nawsh]

combining nhl drafts sounds interesting. I’ll love to see that personally Could you do 1979 draft?

[@sportsfanatic2163]

If Price went #3 that would have been a phenomenal meltdown by Pierre.

[@timscaccia-fitnesstrainer137]

Kolton Miller hes prob a bruins or leafs fan

[@cbett4431]

how about the 5 biggest games where goalies stood on their heads? halak vs capitals, hasek vs devils etc..

[@zwfan1983]

When the Leafs traded the rights to Rask for Raycroft, I was done. My Leafs die hard fandom almost died completely. I still follow them, only to really see how long until they mess it up again. Round and round we go!

[@LETZGONHLdraft]

Not much of a fan. Real die hard fans never give up on their team, need I remind you that Raycroft in the season when he won the calder he had a 29-18-9 record with a 2.05 GAA and a .926 Save Percentage. He was 3rd in Save Percentage with a minimum of 40 games played and 6th in GAA. In the playoffs he was 6th in Save Percentage minimum 7 games played and 8th in GAA. So rightly so (at the time) the Leafs decided that it would be in their best interest to trade for the calder winning goaltender.

[@tamarockstar45]

3 Blues in the redraft. I think we (Blues) did pretty well in that draft.

[@oldutch76]

Great job! Interesting stuff!

[@HodeshHockey]

Hanzal healthy id a top 10 pick in a redraft. He had everything, size, skill, "intangibles"

[@bostonwarrior4824]

Honestly I would’ve had Bobby Ryan a lot lower on the list because when he was in Anaheim he played absolutely phenomenal and then when he got into Ottawa it kind of stopped and people really look on his career poorly, that said maybe with a different team he Would’ve kept that pace going and put up as much points as he did in Anaheim

[@jackmclaughlin605]

He was good for ottawa for a few years

[@x9kempe9x]

love 2 kings in the top 6🥰

[@TheMegaDudeBroski]

Hjalmarsson is still one of my favorite defenseman. Sometimes when the Hawks are towards the bottom of the standings I like to imagine the alternate universe where Hjalmarsson stayed and Seabrook was gone

[@kfagan0406]

A video where you mash 3 drafts together and redraft like that sounds super cool! I hope you do it!

[@justinrogers1807]

I'm at the 12 min mark and i still believe regardless how it ends up Darcy would have taken Zagrapan at the same spot IMO

[@filipnassen9076]

I remember when Bobby Ryan played with Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry. That was a fantastic line, the Ducks version of Legion of Doom.

[@DarkDestroyer98]

Bobby Ryan began to decline after being traded to Ottawa. He was a stud on the Ducks. Luc Bourdon :(. Such a sad story. He did look like he had stud potential too.

[@dylanwynkoop4578]

Not gonna lie I think Oshie would go ahead of Quick and Bishop, and I also think there’s a good argument for taking Tuukka over Price

[@Canuckfan717]

I would like to see you redraft 2003-2005 feel like there'd be so many good names haha! or even if you just redrafted the first round of 2003!

[@him8012]

How do you draft Ovi ahead of Crosby in any scenario? Even despite missing over 2 seasons worth of games to injury, he's still virtually equal in career points with Ovi (168 less games played for Crosby compared to Ovi). Sure Ovi can hit and score goals, but Crosby is WAY better at every other facet of the game.... I don't see how you justify ever drafting Ovi over Sid.

[@oceanshrugs9235]

That amount of goaltenders in the top 10 (if it happened this way in the actual draft) would cause quite the reaction I imagine. It would be interesting to see

[@ricktacular6316]

I remember Ottawa taking Brian Lee and I wasn't too please with that pick.

[@austynking4849]

Awesome idea to combine draft years into 1 round

[@mitchrgblake]

The blatant disrespect of Bobby Ryan... some of the players drafted before him are comical.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

His stats have been bad for years. www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=76888

[@tubesockwhisperer7828]

Wow, Bobby Ryan take a seat bud

[@dariusotero1868]

Bobby Ryan is 6th in points in this draft class but gets taken 22nd in the redraft? There’s no way guys like Marc Edward Vlasic, Cogliano, and Hanzal should be ahead of him

[@SpeedandSplendor]

Hahahah love the Tuukka Task dig .. too good.

[@ricktacular6316]

Surprise Adam McQuaid wasn't drafted in the first round. He was drafted in the second round at #55 overall by Columbus.

[@LETZGONHLdraft]

fun fact T.J. Oshie's full man is Timothy Leif Oshie

[@krisztianszemak385]

good on Toronto, cant possibly mess that up 😂😂

[@konwinskifilms]

I'm so glad the wings got Kindle, what a steal 🙄

[@trentthurow5696]

Another miss by Detroit on defenseman between 2000 and 2016.

[@bertmustin]

It would be interesting to see a re-draft still based on the teams needs at the time, and not necessarily career success.

[@phreakzilla8514]

Penguins end up with 8 separate appearances on the Cup within the first 11 selections of the redraft, including the guys who scored the Cup clinching goal in 2016 AND 2017. Not bad.

[@BrettHornby]

After Sidney Crosby not much to be had until after the first round with who actually got drafted. It was either a home run or huge miss. Toronto Maple Leafs traded their home runs away for a rock.

[@francisbibeau2543]

Keith yandle will have record for more consecutive game play all time in nhl history

[@cbjgirl23]

"they can't possibly mess that up" 😂

[@primozvilfan2361]

It was all arranged with than GM of Columbus (MacLean), according to Kopitar's father, that Anže will be drafted at #6. And than Dave Taylor took him at #11

[@jwolfe01234]

Word is the Columbus scouts really, really wanted MacLean to pick Kopitar. MacLean decided he knew better than the scouts.

[@robbybains1622]

R.I.P Luc Bourdon, taken way to young. Never know what his career would've been. The only thing that you can probably gauge from it is him and Letang were best friends and had played together so there a possibility he could of been somewhere near just as good.

[@rozzer6501]

Nice video, I would have liked to seen Rask at 3

[@jaythehabsfan9119]

No way he passes Price. Maybe Kopitar but prolly not. 4 seemed fair

[@vkobevk]

@GoldGravity but he never troll leaf like price in 2021 🤣

[@noahduchesne6419]

@KZbin Viewer playing with a much better his whole career

[@kevinappleby5539]

I was initially angry to see bergfors before oshie, but then I realized that he was sent to Atlanta in part for Kovalchuk and I felt a lot better about it.

[@Ratzy1614]

dallas traded 28 and 33 for Gologoski or in THG redraft 12 and 13th. This draft really helped then pens. 5 guys from this draft really made mark on the pens in their time

[@Chef.WolfHTT]

But with 3 Carry Price with Carolina’s current defense would be a total monster for other players

[@Painkiller-1997]

I can't help but feel depressed every time you use the Jets logo for videos involving the Thrashers.

[@ryanatkinson9622]

3 years too late but I like that multiple year draft - you could even do a decade draft: 1980s, 1990s, 2000s etc

[@marlinisgreat]

I think redrafts are my favorite videos you make. Also I would have just kept reavers instead of helm! He was very well liked here

[@jinner7288]

please do a 2009 redraft!! thx!!

[@michaelsagberger4094]

If you do the 2004 draft and draft malkin at one and ovi at two i will lose my mind 😄🤯

[@johnathankorkie4984]

I would take Malkin over ovi tbh

[@kinggoten]

that is honestly a tough one to choose. Malkin could of honestly been the best player in the league except he gets moody, and Ovie has legit been one of if not the best pure sniper ever. I would choose Malkin but I am biased. **edit going back to that I always wonder if the Pens or Caps win more/less cups if those picks were swapped I mean its impossible to know, but Crosby and Ovie could of been the best duo for their entire careers and the Caps having a 1-2 punch at center with Malkin and Backstrom would of been pretty dominant as well, but it is impossible to know if either of those would of lead to more Cups.

[@johnathankorkie4984]

@@kinggoten as an hurricanes fan more cups to those teams is my darkest reality

[@polloverkko]

I know this is kinda weird question because Price is one of the best goalies from last 10 years but is he better than Rask. Currently Rask is clearly ahead of Price, who seems (atm) kinda shaky and even (to me) seems like decling. I'm really not sure because my first thought was "of course it's Price", but now I'm not sure...

[@gordanblansky7137]

At the time you posted this it was arguable, but now I think it stays as price is definitely better

[@kipblass2131]

Shannon, are you considering their salary demands and cap-hit in your evaluations? It's kind of one of those nature vs. nurture type of things, but I always assume that a player goes somewhere else, he has other people influencing them, maybe they end up being more realistic about what they ask for. Also, if Abdelkader doesn't get his name on the cup, he doesn't become the worst contract in hockey today.

[@dannyf96]

I’d say Devin Setoguchi is a glaring omission here. Started off playing extremely well before the trade to Minnesota.

[@owenmay3933]

Wow, a lot of great defensemen were drafted late in this draft, it amazes me that Reaves is a first round pick lmao

[@ryanbrown3309]

Great place for Nisky to be drafted. He has had a very solid career. I hated when Dallas traded him. Stars got fleeced in that trade with Pittsburgh (Neal & Niskanen for Goligoski).

[@jeffreycherep8264]

The Pierre Maguire bit was aces.

[@daydaviddunn]

Lol 9:43 Like I said before there should a playlist of these funniest moments

[@melanietatco30]

I’m in agreement with Anze. He is definitely a goal scorer

[@ukkeliskukkelis8971]

One thing i don't understand is that how did Hornqvist get picked in the 7th round at #230? There were 30 teams in the league then, so how was the last pick in the draft 230th? Somebody pls explain

[@jordza2k11]

steal was Rask? I doubt the Leaf fans will be in agreement there Shannon :P, although its not like they traded another 1st rounder but became a HOFer... oh wait hi Scott Niedermayer, ever met Tom Kurvers? no? well its because of him you're a Devil legend :)

[@jeremydanchuk1897]

I was so mad when Cogliano got traded from Edmonton, he was such a good utility forward.

[@richardclay9669]

My personal top 10 would be 1. Crosby 2. Kopitar 3. Oshie 4. Quick 5. Price 6. Rask 7. Bishop 8. Vlasic 9. Letang 10. Stastny

[@loltrip2741]

jack Skille....brutal. good thing that didn't really hurt us lol

[@Vladiator01]

Wait why did leafs not keep rask?

[@jeremydanchuk1897]

They tried to buy a Stanley Cup right away, instead of building towards one.

[@hanspetter29]

Wasn’t Mats Zuccarello eligble for the 2005 draft?

[@bradyjordahl1145]

Should do 03 04 and 05 draft would b epic

[@Roochfan20]

Imagine if the Ducks picked Kopitar in '05! Getzlaf, Perry, and Kopitar making up their spine at center!

[@lorndarken]

if the canes had price , that tandem of price and ward would of been the best goalie core for many many years . definitely would of helped big time in 2009 for the canes against the penguins . and maybe they would of not missed the playoffs so much and that drought of 9 years would of been way less ?

[@jordanfedirchuk1558]

Hanzal was hell of a player. Too bad he was plagued with injuries

[@user-in8cs5ed9d]

Yeah

[@dmc6218]

matt pelech played in the eihl for the belfast giants the season covid hit

[@ginger9508]

I think Price is a lock at 2 behind Crosby

[@wshcaps9081]

Curious to see where Oshie goes