USED Lexus GS F - Worth buying over a BMW M5 or Mercedes-AMG E63?

[@MrAmirvieira4]

Dream Car material here. This and the LC500

[@JasonB2025]

Oh, I do agree.

[@eugenewang4650]

LC500 v8 is just a superb car, the most gorgeous yet unique looking vehicle in the ~200k price range especially in yellow paint and beige interior trim, the NA engine is just the most beautiful thing ive ever heard only thing stopping me from making it my dream car is it has no manual option which is to be expected in a medium-high end performance touring car

[@RandenMontalvo]

Same for me but i would remove the LC500 for a RCF. That and a GSF would be perfect to me :) Great car!

[@zodiac909]

You and I are good friends over this comment.

[@eugenewang4650]

Financially speaking a used RC F for 100k is way better value over a 160k used LC 500. Same engine just different chassis and looks but it sucks cause the LC is the best looking car ive ever seen that costs less than 200k

[@docdave9092]

You are one in a rare group of journos to make eminently sensible comments about the comparative absurdity of many overpowered & over complicated European cars. Keep it up. 😊

[@iamgroot-s6b]

I can guess the answer is 100% yes before even watching the video.

[@hexagonosaurus5848]

shame its dead slow compared to the other othe 2

[@AWMJoeyjoejoe]

​@@hexagonosaurus5848Hardly matters in the real world. Build quality and reliability are far more important long term.

[@Jykobe491]

​@@hexagonosaurus5848the other 2 cars may be faster in a 0-60 launch by about 2 seconds, but are those 2 seconds worth the unreliability and issues that come with them? How many times do you launch a vehicle on you're day to day drive?

[@Bmxchrome]

@@hexagonosaurus5848 But will outlast them for many years to come.. Speed isn't everything

[@hexagonosaurus5848]

@@Bmxchrome If speed isnt everything why even bother buying a "supersedan" ?

[@nqobilemahlaba2230]

This car impressed Jeremy from "The Grand Tour" so much that he literally said he liked it more than the BMW M5 and the E63 of its time. Me....! I love it

[@MrMustangrick]

I own a 2017 GS F V8. No issues at all, and maintenance has been reasonable. A very special driving experience.

[@ramennoodle5361]

1:40 dude in top left casually walking out with brush in mouth lmao

[@Kyuzi]

gotta water them plants 🔥🔥

[@choosesteak5642]

Damn you for posting this, I've been following these for ages and the less people know about them the better.

[@scottieboy9722]

Oh, we know about them :)

[@alanngli]

If people didn’t know about it, I wouldn’t be staring at a blue one with close to 100,000km with a price of $70k still for a long time.

[@M4MK]

same 😭 was genuinely upset when I saw that it had been posted I really hope it doesn't appreciate for a while haha

[@RevLexus]

🤣 would you go GSF, RCF or LC?

[@collinstephans6390]

It's an F line Lexus everyone knows about them😂

[@mmcin719]

Lexus V8s are so silky smooth, I have the 3UZFE in my 22 year old SC430 and it is such a lovely engine. Lexus leather interiors are soft and wear really well and the seats are just great.

[@Vakushka]

Great review, as an owner of a GSF I enjoyed this one! And yep added the lexion unit that retains the oem screen and menu and adds android auto and CarPlay but agree it should have come as standard or atleast an OEM optional upgrade etc.

[@abhishek8571]

lucky bastard

[@Mrwickid1979]

I've wanted one of these for ages and now you've made sure they stay out of my price range for even longer, damn it 😏

[@djgoldthing7166]

Another great video, superb car. We don't really have these used car advice videos In the UK. Good work. 👍

[@technicboy5917]

Adam is incredible. This guy not only comprehensively reviewed a gokart, stuffed a baguette in a french car, and made a dedicated blooper video. He even judged a trolley!😂 I'd watch ReDriven even if I didn't need to buy a car, LEGEND!

[@katzicael]

he's also pretty hot ngl.

[@ReDriven]

Top tier comment, mate. Honestly, comments like this mean the world. Thanks so much for watching and commenting

[@dylans9764]

​@@katzicaelFinally someone said it. The GS F's hot too

[@zorankarabeleski392]

Chris Harris from Top Gear test drove the M5 and GSF on damp roads and he picked the GSF

[@cthorno2991]

Endorsement by Chris Harris, that's good enough for me

[@RevLexus]

I remember that

[@Birmingham_racing]

Chris Harris is a man who really knows cars

[@TwistedDonners]

Definitely a car worth aspiring to get. Only downside I can see is the fuel consumption though it's not as bad as last week's Porsche Cayenne. Have to admit I think you guys have hit the sweet spot for the video layout and anymore tweaking would lessen the quality of it. Felt like you wanted the viewers to fall asleep in the safety features overview lol. Great work as always guys and as always keep up the good work and look forward to next week's videos as per usual 👍.

[@bksniperguy]

Honestly 11.3L/100km isn't even that bad. The VZ SV6 released in 2004 got 11.5, and that only made 190kw and was way lighter (and was also praised for being far quicker and more efficient than the previous 3.8L model). Heck, even only some 9 years ago the comparable HSV Gen F Senator (making 340kw) could still only manage 12.9L/100km.

[@pedrowilson6211]

I got 8.2/100kms in eco mode on long distance trip. Better than my RX350 I owned

[@gavinr9107]

I loved your point about being left handed driving a right hand drive car. For this reason manual cars feel so natural for me and are so fun to drive!

[@1969Risky]

One of my old neighbours bought one for his wife. Exact same colour & trim as Adam has driven. There's never been any problems whatsoever. To me, I just don't like the front but everything else is fine. My old neighbours wife is a southpaw like me & the interior controls are just fine. I'd have one myself but they are hard to find.

[@geneharrogate6911]

Cue the Beemer and Merc fanboys and the predictable 'I've done eleventy million *trouble free* K's in my M5 / AMG' anecdotes.

[@gavinr9107]

Their point can have some validity - however they perceive replacing water pumps, electronic switches, head studs, cam adjusters, intake manifolds, bearings etc - as all routine preventative maintenance and regular expected running costs of their car. That is their version of trouble free ownership.

[@williamhardes8081]

F'd if i know why but in my head when i read the, "I've done eleventy million trouble free K's in my M5 / AMG" it had a very Arnold Schwarzenegger accent.

[@daweigo6851]

😅😅😅😅😅

[@Jason-BMWM5]

Cue the Toyota Camry fan boys criticising the M5’s and E63s 😂

[@TheStigHCE09]

​@@Jason-BMWM5Typical. "Hurr durr Lexus is owned by Toyota so it's a Camry"

[@schad2047]

Own a 2019 GSF since new. Great car, its a keeper. Redriven and Savage Geese create informative entertaining car reviews. Great work.

[@JasonISF]

How do you find the transmission shift speed? I'm possibly looking at one to replace my Toyota Crown at some point as I want something just as reliable and comfortable, but more exciting to drive.

[@schad2047]

@@JasonISF Transmission shift is fine, not as quick as a DCT but smoother around town at lower revs. Shifts fast enough when you are in the higher revs and it has been reliable. plenty of excitement when you want it.

[@XXB4XX]

Haven't watched it and the answer is yes. It will still work in 45 years time

[@Trackrat81ITR]

The V8 powered RC, LC, GS and IS are the perfect cars for those who want performance, comfort, value AND reliability. My RCF earns my admiration every time I drive it.

[@allenzillmer1917]

Welcome to the RCF club!

[@MrMustangrick]

Me too for my GS F hot rod sedan.

[@sebass9578]

Lucky man I been wanting one since 2015 but unfortunately I was only 11 when they came out but been my dream car ever since hoping to get one in the next few months

[@truonghthe]

Finally the video been released, I seen your post on the GSF owner FB group asking for "thing you hates/ cons about GSF" One thing i have to add is the air vent on driver is almost useless at blowing air when aim at driver. Yes we USA owner got a poverty specs GSF, no rear sunshades, no rear console control and no power open/close boot. Seeing the Matador Red Mica on the GSF looks really good, I almost forgot that i have the same GSF in sitting in garage lol. Yes the front lower carbon fiber lip does take good beating from motorway usage. Major service is every 60,000 miles (roughly 100k km) and by Toyota major mean (replace spark plugs, differential fluids, air filter/ cabin air filter and whipper blade lol). I also went and drain and fill the transmission fluid as well. My GSF has 70k miles and so far no creak or rattle in the interior, the car does suffer from interior cabon delaminating on the driver side trim piece. The car originally from California owned by Lexus and later move to Texas. Great reviews and cheer mate.

[@v8_sami]

Is it the same for the Canada spec GSF?

[@truonghthe]

@@v8_sami Canadian specs is the same as the one in this video. Only USA got poverty specs 😂

[@ravipeiris4388]

Lexus are the design masters in creating cars and suv's that are difficult to place time wise. The other day, I was on the road and saw a Lexus LS 500 behind a Lexus ES 350. It's striking how both cars looked so similar and how far the ES's design has evolved since the early 2000s ❤.

[@FrancePhil44]

That GSF in that red color is gorgeous

[@bilalsiddiqui3329]

GSF owner here. Can’t disagree with anything you’ve said. Great job at your research!

[@ReDriven]

Thank you mate! Cheers for watching and commenting

[@MrLuba6a]

And my LS500h!!! Every time I cruise with it, I thank God for letting me enjoy this beauty!

[@RevLexus]

oh you have a LS?

[@MrLuba6a]

@@RevLexus yes, but very unpractical for the little island where I used to live...the roads, and the parking lots are made for Toyota Yaris 🙈

[@RevLexus]

@@MrLuba6a Oh is it?! I feel you about small spaces, I am in the UK and the parking spaces are designed for 1980's Euro cars. Modern day vehicles are too big

[@MrLuba6a]

@@RevLexus hehehe...here, in Tenerife, can you imagine? I even do not dare to drive to Santa Cruz, only one parking place I know, where I can "smuggle" my LS. Europe isn't better either. This autumn I had problems with the parking the hotels offered .So, the troubles are enormous, but the joy of driving the beast is worth 🤷‍♂Only lacking AppleCarPlay, nothing else is missing 🙈

[@RevLexus]

@@MrLuba6a Oh I can imagine parking is a challenge

[@deganellis]

I....just.....need a moment. Good god I love these things. And that would be the exact spec I would have. Such an amazing car. So much more interesting than a BMW, Benz or Audi! Great review team! 👍

[@davison077]

Owen was great. More of him pls.

[@adrianssz4582]

Liking the updated format. Good work to you Adam and your team

[@truetierra]

to own one of these is a true life goal. what a beautiful car!

[@DATT0]

Good work guys, been looking at these for a couple of months now 😉👍🏼

[@paulwang5213]

100% yes without even watching the video but you guys simply rock and ur videos are great so 100% watching and thumbs up too

[@colseverns9848]

Love this car and have been a fan of V8 Lexus since ISF series ... seriously underated and uber cool ...great review and interesting comments on M5 and E63.. You guys are absolutely keeping in honest , bloody well done !!!

[@dreamernawid]

Just bought this cars grandad in the 2006 GS430, perfect timing

[@paulmarr7873]

Bought one two years ago, love it, good review, accurate.

[@roadsofjapan6009]

Indeed well done to the owner Karl you handed over a nice example for this channel…

[@w0bblyd0inkb0ink]

10:16 many M3/C63 owners buy those are purely for the numbers and dare I say some doesn't some doesn't even know how to extract 100% from a FWD Yaris!

[@Carlos1116]

This owner has good taste of car. This GS-F is the best looking car and It's a gorgeous red.

[@ezekielwebb9335]

Wow what a stunner !, also great review !

[@ScottHD]

GSF: the greatest car no one ever bought. Less than 3100 made worldwide 2016-2020. These are definitely future classics.

[@pielight7449]

Spot on review. Had a 2017 UK GSF for over 4 years and still love it... not a single fault thus far. Controlling tbe infotainment took a bit of getting used to, but you don't even think about it once mastered - I find it much easier than suspending my left hand in mid air to operate touch screen. 2017 models add adaptive dampers, so lesss firm ride in the non sports settings.

[@w0bblyd0inkb0ink]

12:57 apparently this issue is appeared to have been resolved with new iteration same engine inside LC-500.

[@clarkstreetcustoms]

Great review. I am fortunate to own a 2020 GS F in Smokey Granite Mica, one of the last two 2020-model-year cars sold in New Zealand. It has been totally reliable as you’d expect from a Lexus. The Australian and NZ cars were very high spec with powered boot lid, rear seat audio and climate controls in the centre armrest, Mark Levinson audio and BBS 10-spoke forged alloy wheels by BBS as standard. My car has the RR Racing ‘Valvetrionic” cat-back exhaust system fitted which gives an additional 25 hp at the rear wheels making it a full 500 hp. It gives the option of quiet or obnoxious modes depending on your mood! With only 3,200 made (only 700 in right hand drive), The GS F is a fabulous, exclusive and stealthy super sedan. Sure to be a future classic. Get one if you can and don’t sell it.

[@chrisvanegmond3157]

Amazing car. Loved the ASMR safety features segment.

[@paulsimpson8990]

From memory there is one issue with something hidden underneath the inlet manifold but apart from that they seem solid. Most people complain about the rev buzzer

[@BimbakPL]

Great video. Btw, the shown car got low tire pressure at the front

[@justice4g]

Love the look of some Lexus models and I'm used to using my left hand for my mouse despite being right handed but I need a liftback or wagon

[@AWMJoeyjoejoe]

Me too. I'd love a GS but the practicality just isn't there. I wish they did an estate version.

[@FilmScape4K]

A good compromise on the GS F is the GS450h F Sport. Good economy and about 70% of the performance. You should review on those those.

[@Countspankulot]

You guys should review the infiniti fx/qx70.

[@pedrowilson6211]

I own a 2016 GSF. Drives brilliantly, only issue is the internal carbon fibre clear coating cracks. Not a deal breaker but a pain in the arse to fix.

[@MrMustangrick]

My 20

[@vladmihajlovic2579]

I preferred the previous format. That said, I’ll keep watching because it’s great content 👍

[@neosoviet502]

I don't mind this new format but like u said the previous format was better.

[@f2john]

Regarding the brakes. That is an easy fix, I have a 14 LS with the Brembo brakes and they made a ton of dust. Switched over to EBC red stuff a few months ago and those make 1/4 of the dust. A little bit of noise but not much worse than stock and I've found them to be a bit easier to modulate as well.

[@brianpalay2]

7:17 I will say my LX 570 with 160k miles on it, on the interior, looks like most vehicles with 40k miles on them. Everything is holding up incredibly well.

[@jamespavier1624]

This and the LC 500 awesome, another top review.

[@ronslife3396]

I got a Lexus GS and a AMG Benz I can’t complain honestly they both great cars 💯👌🏾

[@brian7523]

GSF all the way❤

[@Leonardqh5kp]

Great review - it's been tough going finding one in WA, might search over East

[@computerhelpcc]

GSF first year only fixed dampers are a bit firm and on highways that vary from asphalt to concrete it’s not quite supple enough. 3600 rpm half+ throttle epic sound, TVD makes curves fun and a little slidey. Tach center w speedo = Porsche, so no adjustment when you go between the two.

[@hughedwards4511]

Brilliant review!!

[@longdongjohn6588]

10:41 I don't know about you, but I can't take my eyes off that bloody cable at the top of the A pillar. What's that even for and surely there's a better way to fit it?

[@shitsugane]

You do great reviews

[@brianpalay2]

Ugh, I want one. I have an LX 570 now. Just love how easy Lexus vehicles are to own, compared to the Germans (previously had an M3). For me, the GS F is the perfect blend of usability, reliability, and fun.

[@sibusisogumede1261]

Shoutout to Kyle for allowing us to envy him. Sending hate from South Africa🤣🤣 Love your car man. much love bro🤜🤛

[@2URLex]

Good video and precise information. The rarity is very real, I’ve yet to see one in person. As an RCF owner I’ve only seen 4 others within 40 mile of my home. I keep my Pre Collision System off because it almost killed me lol 113k miles and can still touch 170 with ease. Last long time.

[@confluenttrading3037]

I have had mine for 6 years with low maintenance cost and zero problems. Amazing car and ages well

[@khimani]

Super awesome beast. Lexus for life…!!

[@olabodealamu5297]

The accountatnt part was too funny, love it!

[@Carsandkettlebells]

You boys are stalking my Carsales history I tell ya !

[@kingkire1556]

Making all the prices go up on the daily

[@quest9133]

Is it a Lexus? Yes Then buy it. Review done

[@pokinacha]

13:54 Toyota 8sp Auto more reliable? Based on what data and evidence? The ZF8HP is in more cars than the Aisin AA80E so will have more issues, but to say that the Aisin is more reliable without providing any evidence seems a little poor.

[@pokinacha]

Let me also say that your videos are always awesome and filled with excellent info and I will 100% use them for any second hand car purchase.

[@masteryoda498]

Another Toyota/Lexus masterpiece, why do fools continue to waste their money on overpriced and unreliable European cars, when they can buy a Lexus GSF.

[@ATLballer]

2018 gs f..........the m5 is a sexy looking car also......you cant pay me to buy a used BMW.....i bought a used BMW 750i .....under warranty with my credit union.....it was in the shop so much my credit union warranty co. cancelled my warranty even though i had 20k miles left on my warranty....they said this the last payment we are making...it was an internal oil leak that cost 7500.00 to fix...and that was the last repair......the warranty cost me about 2300.00 about 10 years ago....they paid out about 13k on diff. repairs

[@berniesutton7277]

Love the “Driver Training” advice. Very appropriate

[@kasperkd9689]

It is my dream car , i own it now , im proud and thankful 🙏

[@lansonfloyd4687]

my next car, right here. As an owner of a 2013 GS350, this is the natural progression upward, IMO. Probably will keep the GS350 for a family member, why ever sell one?

[@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt]

Nice work guys.

[@waterbourne9282]

Now you're talking. My sons RC-F was superb, and as you said cost bugger all to service, and of coarse never missed a beat. And that noise they make on start up, my god.

[@Miggy2j]

Nooooo I've had my eye on these for a while and they're rare enough as it is without this video being out there for all to know about this gem 😭

[@james3744]

Love the GS F, shame prices are damn expensive (even the 2016 models). Imagine if they made a wagon version... drooooool

[@GiantMaster]

This is indeed a great car even just the ordinary GS. Sadly, it's been discontinued.

[@ultimablackmage]

This is a dream car of mine. They sound so damn good when you reduce the engine bay sound dampening.

[@jamescheung3258]

Having a 2012 gs350 down here in NZ (which is the same generation as this GSF) and even that got plenty of power the potential to lose your license. It will happily cruise along at 180kph as quietly and effortlessly as if its doing 100, only if we can do such speed here. :( Its now my second car and my car of choice for going on a long road trip, so powerful, comfortable and luxurious while sipping fuel at below 8L/100km. Also cant believe they stuck such a massive screen into a car back then, its still massive in todays standard. But been putting the car up for sales for 4 months already and only ONE person came view the car :(

[@willemivo1]

Someone stuffed a supercharger on a 350 and outperformed the V8 F-sports. Just so you know…

[@moeymcbacon8604]

Actually they facelifted the GS in 2015-2016, so yours is technically not the same

[@simonmanners4108]

Lexus GS F owners groups… you guys are awesome, Tesla owners groups… you guys are assholes.

[@mfsusanoo7238]

I like the interior, reminds me of an old school SC400

[@Birmingham_racing]

Lexus are generally underrated but this is a special car

[@Billfish57]

I picked up 10th anniversary model 4 years ago and love it completely. Not one complaint, living in a very hot place, I've experienced none of the problem you stated they may have, even when looking for real problems with this car, some people have to make up stuff like my truck leaks, but only a couple of cars. WTF? So why even say that then? They don't leak, but people do close stuff in the lid sometimes and complain about leaks, I've seen that happen before. This car is so much better at so many things than it's competition it's in a class by its self. The markets switched decades ago to shallow people that "need" but can't buy a nice car so they can rent it for 3-4 years, walk away with nothing but payments paid and more on the way, with no emphases on reliability or maintenance in the car equation, or enjoying that rental ever again. If you want to buy and drive your own car, have that feeling of not being stranded in the middle of now where or constantly repairing a car when you always need it, than you need to have your head examined for I.Q. and ego levels to see if you are an adult, or a kid or a women, figure it out fast because the future will mess you up if you blow money to look cool instead of long term survival. I loved this man analogy, I am tall, thin and ware lose close, feels good, I like it that way, and this is the sleeper of sleeper cars out there. I don't by anything for others to comment on, it's all about what I like. This guy's take on that behavior of car owners or car renters is spot on. Americans are the same, for most, it's more about what co-workers and friends think than having any sense about what the car is for in the first place for a forward thinking owner. #1) A to B every time without exceptions, sounds and feels good to be in, fun to drive. When you park and walk away, you often take a look back like it's a young hot girl, just to get one more smile out of the process, knowing you get to drive it again real soon. Buy this car used, you'll never get rid of it for something better. Maybe different, but not better. Everything else is a trade off of drivability / comfort for speed bump challenges and getting in and out on a double date. No better 4 person car on the road, although the SUV's may nicer for that, they don't set you free to really drive when alone like this cruiser will. It's fast, stops fast and the suspension in the corners can't be better or safer with is computers letting you fishtail just enough to make you smile and laugh with no chance of hitting guard rails or other traffic. It's how high power should be delivered in a luxury sports car. Love it. BTW, I just installed 4 new tires last month and the car feels like it drove out of the show room, smoothly rolling on the HWY, then zipping around lanes and corners effortlessly just like band new. I hope you can find one if you want one. Most don't know what these really are all about so you may stumble upon a great buy, skip the 2016, it didn't have the much improved electronic suspension yet, 2017 on is fine, be patient, lot's of people will be selling assets this year needing money, maybe you can help. Good luck.

[@motaz1975]

i recently traded my m4 for an rcf and could not be happier. no its not the fastest but when productions cars are now in the 700-1,000 hp range, does any of that really matter? where you gonna use it?

[@Mabeylater293]

13:10 lexus used the wrong sealant from the factory. Once it’s been fixed you won’t have to fix it again.

[@KevinnPOV]

😎🖤 should i upgrade from a 2GS??

[@dpfghela]

Can agree with the gearbox issue. Been spoilt by the excellent ZF in BMWs. Makes everything else super annoying to drive.

[@gavinr9107]

Depends if you are using sport or normal mode and if you are manually shifting or in 'D'. Manually upshifting and downshifting in sport mode is actually the same time in milliseconds as a ZF auto. In 'D' the time to kick down to the desired gear is sluggish.

[@xrand0mx]

Maaaate. If you're ever in NZ, I have a stage 1 2011 B8 S4 that I'd be happy for you to do a review on. But be quick, because I may yet trade it on one of these...

[@roadsofjapan6009]

Points for the direction in life bit verse the ashtray gig 😂 I tell my daughter this all the time , although I smoke.

[@lordbuckethead2022]

LOL you accountant is baked AF!!!

[@adyuaic]

I'd love if you can make a comparison rcf vs lc500. Both are dream car for me, and can't afford both. I know rcf has more track orientated setup, while lc500 is more like a beast for gentlemens on the road. Which one should I choose? Here in the UK is a 10k difference, which is fine with me, but really worth the £ on top? Shouldn't I use that on the rcf for more aggressive kit (which either of both, will get dependens on what I'll choose) 😁? Yes, much smoother 10 speed transmission, way, better looking LC, but rcf more for bad boys on track as mentioned. Really confused 😂

[@calboy1227]

Pretty spot on review! I had a ‘16 GS F and now a ‘19, both are great all around performance cars. Neither is as quick as my former CL55 or E60 M5 but they’re pretty close. Lexus would have hit a home run if it had put an 8k RPM screaming V8 with 500hp in the GS F!

[@petewitt2867]

Hot 🔥 Love seeing non-SUV reviews 👌

[@murrieteacher]

This is the next car. And I would like the LC500 soft top too.

[@danmccarthy4700]

If I ever win the lotto or something, the first thing I'm doing is going to my nearest Lexus dealer and ordering an LC500 convertible.

[@BocaAtractivo82]

I find it hilarious a home owner is checking their laundry drying outside and with a tooth brush in his mouth = P Intentional extra or not, still a well worth vid review to watch

[@duancj6738]

I'm not in nsw, But if you ever have a chance travelling to qld for holiday, my gladiator Rubicon is available for you

[@Calx91]

The M5 blows this car out the water performance wise. But the reliability on the GSF blows the M5 out the water.

[@jimmyandtommy1]

I want to know more about that n14 sss in the back of the workshop ❤