What you could buy INSTEAD of a 2025 Toyota LandCruiser Prado

[@snoopy13946]

Love to see the comparison between old and new Prado because that’s exactly what I’m considering right now.

[@ReDriven]

Trying to line it up!

[@Flooonky]

@@ReDriven Would love to see it!

[@Levi-c6f]

Same here

[@stevezodiac575]

I have a 2017 Prado. I thought about buying the 250, but the150 has many advantages, eg fuel tank capacity, so I'm struggling to find reasons to buy the 250. Plus once the retro novelty has worn off, the 150 will, I'm sure, be recognised as the better looking vehicle.

[@grantbarrie4879]

Would love to see that

[@chriswright5198]

I bought a 2021 Kakadu with 50,000km in January as a Toyota certified used car. Has the update 150kw motor and extended warranty to aug 2026. I’ve fitted a RTT and done almost 20000km in it including a 12000km trip around SA-WA. I love it and the long range tank and comfort are awesome. As you’d expect there have been zero issues and the Toyota service team really look after you, not that there is much for them to do. I couldn’t stretch to a new Prado and had a window of opportunity for a road trip between jobs so used it was. As good as the Prado is, I think Toyota are going to have some stiff competition from China, especially with respect to price and quality. As Chinese made quality moves ahead, it is harder to justify the Toyota price premium.

[@Jim-zn7ky]

The Pajero is kinda similar to Redriven... Way too underrated!!! And capable, no nonsense. The Super Select 4wd system is sort of like Redivens trademark, offering honest unbiased reviews which makes Redriven an absolute gem! Keep up the great work gents!!

[@johnhippy4310]

Couldn't agree more 👍

[@NoOne-qr8yf]

They dont even exist anymore😂😂

[@philg2468]

A lot of my friends are outback travellers and choose a Prado for two reasons: fuel range (150L tank) and reliability. The only thing that is equal or better is the Toyota Troopcarrier which go a long way in the outback on standard 180L tank. A GXL Troopy would be on my list and now comes with a similar 2.8L motor, auto, 5 seats and doesn't depreciate at all. And they are a square blank canvas when it comes to setting up.

[@boxoffisa]

Yes. I agree.

[@mwat22]

Yeah alot of people will opt for the 76 series or 78 troopie and where I'm from they add the doors for the rear as it's also used as a tourist vehicle and needs to have doors to rear access, barn doors not withstanding.

[@pantoqwerty]

@@mwat22 if you don’t might the comfort difference I’d say the 76 is the new Prado for my money, if I were inclined to dust 80k.

[@TwistedDonners]

Definitely didn't expect an alternative to X model new car today, especially since we haven't seen one of these videos for a while. Definitely a welcome surprise. Did not expect the Porsche Cayenne as an alternative to the new Prado or for you guys to pick the Pajero as the best alternative either. I don't know about everyone else but I'd definitely love to see a real world comparison of the new and old Prados to see which is better. Should throw the Pajero into the mix if you're able to borrow one as well. Bloody good work guys and good to see an old video series from yourselves get a new episode. As always guys keep up the good work and look forward to next week's videos as per usual 👍.

[@AD-dx7lr]

Our old Prado died and we looked around for its replacement. Long range fuel tank was the one thing that stood out for us. We went with a second hand 2022 Prado, with only 50,000kms on the clock. Still has new car warranty too. I think the new Prado has done a disservice in getting rid of the long range fuel tank. Time will tell.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Toyota got rid of barn doors and split tailgate of the 200 and deleted the extended range fuel tank of the 150. What are they doing?

[@miltonhusky]

Weight saving economy cost reduction strategy. Economic reasons of making a profit for Toyota ​@imnotusingmyrealname4566

[@pantoqwerty]

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 unfortunately appealing to the core buyer in volume terms that never takes them offroad, uses them for the school run, and hates swing door tailgates. I see a lot of the Altitude variant of the previous model that only carries 87L of fuel and has the rising rear door with the glass hatch. I’d imagine older, and perhaps female, users get the arse with swinging that big heavy rear door, especially on a hill.

[@crustaceanfoundation9441]

Don’t forget the 200 series guys! Have been waiting 2 years for a gxl prado that’s rolled onto the 250 prado, but for the same price, with all accessories and 56k kms on clock, I’ve sold out for a 2019 gxl 200 series. Granted, it’s outside of the warranty period now but looking at another 1 year wait at least for the 250 prado, plus whatever price increases between now and then. Not to mention the prado 250 being a first series model with a whole lot more beeping stuff that could wrong (see 300 series), I reckon it’s potentially the best option with the Toyota reliability. Keep up the good work though, the reviews are great 🤙

[@SayYesSonofSam]

Did exactly your top pick a couple of months ago after watching your review of it. Picked up a full kitted out Pajero with 80k on the clock for sub 45. Dual battery, bull bar, suspension, rhino rack platform. Still smiling.

[@adamdixon2251]

Did the same

[@willoughby40]

How many Porsche's and VW's did you look at?

[@davidholmes3323]

It comes down to dirt. Wet dog. Chainsaw and muddy boots. 2nd hand Paj or Prado for the win.

[@ElieAtallah1]

Pajero is it really capable and reliable? The 2015 is good

[@angelotsi849]

@@ElieAtallah1 Yes it is.

[@spdaltid]

I just sold a top spec Pajero Sport after 10 years trouble free motoring [in Thailand]. It is seriously worthy of consideration, even if it's much more Fortuner than Prado. Having moved [retired] to Japan though, I can get into a base 2.8 5 seater here for around Aud52k [list with tax]. Or a top range Hilux for similar. Thing is, for about 10k less, I can put myself in a top spec Mitsubishi Delica D5. I like Toyotas. I've had Cruisers/ Hiluxes and even a Harrier.. I've also had Pajeros, Patrol, BMW X5 and a string of Delicas [including a first gen D5]. I just can't see the value proposition - especially further up the Cruiser250 food chain. I don't tow anything, so it's a no-brainer. Mitsubishi Australia needs to import the D5 for you guys - you're missing out

[@Chris0-58]

The Landcruiser Prado is one of our politicians' favorite vehicle here in Kenya. Some government institutions already have it (J250) as part of their fleet. The other one is the Landcruiser 200. The 300 series not widely adopted, yet. Anyways, the late model years Prado J150 and the Mitsubishi Pajero don't sound bad.

[@freddyvoorhees9749]

That's true. The other day, I saw a bunch of J250s in Gigiri with J150s as escort cars. The LC200 could be a solid alternative for a maxed-out J250. But of course, value for money and peace of mind, the Pajero is definitely top of the list (for those of us who aren't politicians).

[@boxoffisa]

Same in Uganda.

[@DilanR596]

Mux, Pajero Sport, Fortuner would be my alternative, obviously the Prado is above all those 3.

[@interceptor7905]

I drive Prados and Fortuners at work.I would definitely pick Fortuner plus lot cheaper.New Prados suck,should say current ones !

[@christophermancini7334]

lol mux over a prado every day

[@netsiteing]

No Ford Everest? How would you compare the top spec 2021 MUX LS-T to top spec Everest Titanium, which can be found for around the same, maybe MUX little less?

[@NoOne-qr8yf]

@@christophermancini7334😂😂yeah right

[@olly1oo6]

As the owner of a second-gen Touareg which set me back $30k a few years ago, can confirm it is very capable off road and pretty cheap to run. Haven't had any major reliability issues yet. Had an LR4 Disco before the Touareg and I.....can't say the same for that thing. Lovely car for the two months a year it wasn't getting something fairly catastrophic repaired. I suspect I got one of "the bad ones", but nonetheless, night and day compared to the sturdy VW so far.

[@jomo2483]

I saw the new Toyota land cruiser Prado yesterday. It's a stunner

[@robertorocca7332]

2014 Hemi 5.7 Jeep. Pick it up for under $20k. Will drink more petrol, but more fun to drive, just as capable and a big saving!

[@cooperryan6948]

Love to hear your thoughts about the GWM Tank 300 Ultra for $52k drive away in QLD Or the GWM Tank 500 Ultra for $74,500 drive away in QLD They are selling like hotcakes in Queensland and they have so much tech for the price and the 300 is a serious off-road

[@RedworxAU]

I got a LR4 with 80k on it for $30k. Original tyres and appears to have never left Brighton. Spent a heap on a service, new tyres, roof rack etc... still less than 40k and i prefer to every 4WD drive today other than 80 series wagon (unobtainium)

[@markmcgrath9098]

Best choice imo too.

[@whoguy4231]

Mission impossible to find a Prado equivalent or better than just another Prado 👍

[@ElieAtallah1]

So true

[@ElieAtallah1]

Lexus GX 460😅

[@whoguy4231]

@@ElieAtallah1 LOL ... 👍

[@willoughby40]

Come on boys, get serious. If someone is in the market for a 250 Prado, they are not going to be looking at VW's or Porsche's or Pajero's or LR4's. , seriously.

[@sneakeypete]

I think the target market for it is definitely on the higher end than the previous models, but traditionally people who have bought them would have cross shopped them with Pajeros. I could see someone who has an older one looking for an upgrade get a Pajero instead

[@zerozeeros]

That's a bit of judgey remark. I have a Nissan Navara and love the yank tanks worth 3 to 4 times the amount just because you like 1 thing doesn't mean you may not like another in a different price range

[@Trussme96]

A Pajero would definitely be in the running

[@benmmm7359]

Not entirely true. I have a Nissan 4x4, but also own 2x Porsches and a VW. I buy what I like because of what each of them offers: not because of their similarities.

[@willoughby40]

@@benmmm7359 OK, but you own 4 cars. Most people only have one car and I dare say they are not tossing up between a Porsche and a Prado, and if they are, they have absolutely no intension of going off road in either.

[@twiggo69]

I have one of the last V6 150 Kakadu’s. I chased down the last one Toyota had once I knew that they were no more with the facelift version and luckily it was at a local dealer. I’d love to see that in the test

[@geenev3]

For those same reasons I bought the last of the 150 prado’s. The new 250 Prado from my observation of the reviewers in the US, I’m Just not really impressed enough to splash more money than what I have already splashed with my 150 I now currently own.

[@darrenprior6339]

I've got the new Prado on order (apparently have an allocation) but the 48V system does concern me. A mate of mine owns a Disco 5 and the 48V system one it just shat itself. The Bill? $12,000. Luckily it was under warranty but when those things fail, they ain't cheap!! Sure his was a LandRover so it was preordained to fail but it does highlight another layer of complexity, Toyota or not.

[@lukeclifton4392]

Is the LR’s hybrid system integrated into the powertrain? I suspect Toyota went the route of a “bolt on” hybrid system (like RAM also use) so that if/when something should go wrong, the ICE powertrain can still operate without too much interference… and repairs are more economical. I have heard of RAM’s hybrid system failing alot (…it’s a Stellantis product after all) and the truck can still function rather well. The user can even remove the hybrid drive belt to disable any drag due to the failed unit.

[@tturi2]

48v system is so they can use thinner wires for the less current but still output the same power as 12v

[@frankaloo93]

Buying a Patrol over a Prado because it’s bigger for the same money is like buying a jumper in size L instead of the size S you need because you get more fabric

[@boc3499]

Tell us you're a shortarse without telling us you're a shortarse

[@petergalea6032]

I just sold my NX MY 21, and I tow a van, I’ll pull you both up when comparing the New Prado V Pajero is the towing, Pajero tows 3000kg and 180 TBW, that’s the difference right there, that’s where they are different, If the Pajero had a 300kg TBW I would still own it, I loved my Paj. So now I have a LC300.

[@goosegarage78]

LR4 disco and reliable? and you said it with a straight face bahahahaha

[@jakelong7976]

I swear you can see Jim barely stopping himself from saying something clever in response to "surely you're not gonna have $50k worth of repair bills" haha

[@TheTimmymango]

A bit addicted to Redriven, I've had an NS pajero for about 8 years, it has 290000kms and still does a great job so keeping it for now. To continue my Redriven addiction I've just got a 2nd Gen CRV with 165000kms on it. Love it so far, it's been lifted a bit and has bigger 16" wheels. Might do a bit of light off-roading in it.

[@kmuinde]

they should bring petrol one back

[@allanmaccaul1465]

From the start of this video, I was thinking Pajero.. I own the first of the 4th generation and after 12 years it's been faultless, if I had to replace I'd definitely buy another one...👍🏻👍🏻

[@solonyetski]

Diesel or petrol?

[@browie316]

New vs old would be a great comparison, especially from less "biased" journalists like you guys.

[@pgoldys5534]

Hard to spend money on a new Prado if you wanted to 1-2 year wait lol. Talked to my local dealer in June and said they already have 150 Prados on back order.

[@jasonfields2793]

Id just keep my pajero and use the money to buy a fun daily

[@Bill-ki4zf]

Great idea. Get something you can enjoy driving, and then you only drive the Pajero when you need to.

[@yuguo6449]

I thought Ford Everest would 100% be on the list, not saying they are good, but that is a real competitor.

[@axe2001]

When i bought my 150 earlier in the year, i cross shopped with Everest. It was the only thing comparable as Pajero Sport has a terrible anchor point system

[@netsiteing]

The Isuzu MUX is in the mix with Everest and Pajero Sport.

[@ricecrash5225]

Owned 2 Pajero exceed’s and loved them. Went to trade in for my 3rd and they told me they no longer make them. Gutted. Boxy before boxy was cool. Still one of the best looking cars on the road.

[@owenscott4145]

Doing a side by side comparison between the new and previous models would be great. Personally, I don't think the new 250 is worth the steep price increase.

[@NoOne-qr8yf]

Says the man whos never owned or driven one😂😂

[@Nebs1]

I’m not impressed with the Pajero. We have had Prados and Pajeros at my work as company cars and the Prado absolutely destroys the Pajero when they’re brand new and when they have 450,000kms on the clock. Well we sell the Pajeros at 450,000km because they feel well and truly worn out. I was driving one of the Prados last week with 540,000kms on it and it still felt really nice. Pajeros are loud, have horrible steering feel and rough as guts when they’re new too.

[@jarrydpersson8958]

Coming from someone who works in the 4x4 industry. If you’re looking to do serious 4x4ing and lifting a Y62 either don’t touch it or spend some serious money on suspension and lifting gear. They are an absolute nightmare when lifted over 2 inches with alignment issues and chewing tyres

[@prdreilly]

2" lift and some bigger tyres makes the Patrol very capable, not sure why anyone would want more than that?

[@jarrydpersson8958]

@@prdreilly we get alot of guys wanting 35s plus and a 3-4 inch lift. We have a lot of customers with big lifted patrols. Not very uncommon but cost weigh up very quickly on those vehicles. Diff drops ect

[@Mikelennon78]

No mention of the new Everest. How bizarre.

[@NoOne-qr8yf]

Theyre talkin about alternatives to prado not lada niva😂😂😂

[@ashwathashok]

Very surprised the FJ Cruiser did not come up! I personally think the FJ Cruiser will rank very high on the list!

[@hoody6954]

New vs old, YES PLEASE!

[@Oscar-jt8tn]

I believe the new Prado has 3500kg towing capacity.

[@Sarge1992]

I'll second this

[@garageblitztv3215]

New Prado has a payload reduction down to (and below some) soft SUV’s … there’s also now no long range fuel tank. And whilst it’s not recommended to tow more than the vehicle weighs, it looks at max towing the driver will be the only “payload” to be legal. Seems like this will be one of the most capable and expensive, but slow soccer parent vehicles available.

[@haydenb364]

The kicker for me on the new one is top hinged rear door. Split glass opening is great, too. I've had two Pajero's in the past and I found the side hinged rear door a massive nuisance both when getting the trailer hitched and while it's there. Great video

[@andrenieto7495]

Bought a 105 this year Makes me miss my old Pajero everyday

[@scarekro5]

Do it! This is something everyone wants to see. Compare away!

[@havanother1]

Roughly 100k for the new Prado - with all the new model bugs still to iron out, or about 30k for a low mileage 20-21 Pajero - a model with over 20 years of being tried and tested. It's a no brainer for desert driving.

[@rw20000]

Currently looking at used 300s as the wait for the Prado is getting ridiculous. Test drive an Everest V6. Drive train is seriously impressive but ride quality average, rear seats don't fold flat and rear seats are very cramped imo.

[@ShubhoBose]

In the US, this car doesn't make much sense since a 4runner costs 15k USD less at 40k new from Toyota itself, compared to 55k for the Prado.

[@ntdawg]

Prado has a solid rear axel and a factory rear locker compared to an IRS of a Pajero. The Prado should be able to flex better off road (I accept it will still lift a front wheel). And on the wading and approach angle positions. Aren’t they solved with an aftermarket bar and snorkel?

[@uriahsw]

LOVE this new format and it's something we all consider. Should we buy second hand or brand new? How many km's or how old should we consider equivalent to or better than brand new? What's the difference in total cost of ownership assuming you keep it for 5 years or so?

[@chrisfromkatunga6245]

Yes, I want to see the new v old Prado comparison, keep up the good work gentlemen 👍

[@benjaminmaxwell8732]

Compare the new vs old!! That would be a great video 😊

[@wodka15]

Would love to see the comparison. You are doing a great job. Keep it up. Greetings from Germany!

[@netsiteing]

The thing with Pajero is the rear door with that spare. If you want larger wheels you won’t fit a matching spare and not sure what you can do to remove that whole plastic cover?

[@sadilankri2914]

I did order a new Prado a year and a half ago, Discovered new price is more than 10k, probably I will wait until the dust will settle before buying it.

[@michaelschablon6148]

By the way. We have a Disco 4. And yes agree with everything you said. Absolutely brilliant, just wish it didn't cost on average $2000 -3000 per year to fix issues, on top of servicing. Best bet...for $80,000, just by two Disco 4's.

[@mvubu6823]

$2000 a year vs interest + the depreciation on a new vehicle is A BARGAIN

[@outandaboutinoz]

The new Pardoo does have a 3500kg tow capacity.

[@gavingonsalves2863]

One car you didn’t put up was the Everest in the Platinum V6. BTW the Pajero only tows 2500kg with a ball weight of

[@MC-BigCara]

Agree, I have the sport and its a great car, most people who buy a prado aren't going to go off the tarmac

[@lyndonainsworth3445]

Absolutely love to see a comparison of the 150 & 250!

[@maxxie5156]

The boot of the new Prado is a show stopper for me.

[@ZeroneRaven]

I saw the new one on the road at night these days and it looked like a TANK, very impressive

[@jasonwishart6800]

Bought a 2023 150 gxl as I wanted the last of that model run. The 150litre tank clinches it for me.

[@michaelhermans4753]

Prado side mirrors $3200 to replace 😳 Cost of spares should come into the equation

[@SergiosKolios]

Yes to the comparison between 150 and 250!! 😊

[@dmac2401]

Hey guys love the content :) Just a heads up, the 250 Prado has gone up to a 3.5 tonne towing capacity :)

[@theabombination1]

At that price I’d be very tempted by a 2018-2019 Lexus LX570, although I love the new Prado styling with the round headlights

[@wilydimayuga519]

Yes, new vs old even for other vehicles, please! Even for a vehicle that’s “new” or less than a year old then its predecessor.

[@AlphaOmega333]

Compare the Prados! In the states we get the GX and I’m torn between the new one for styling and the old GX for its reliability but dated tech.

[@timfudy3147]

Great comparison vids guys.

[@LudwigMaglaqui-ex3wr]

if the comparison between the prado 150 vs 250 is great idea I would recomend both kakadu specs so it an even playing field

[@michaelschablon6148]

A definite yes for a 150 vs 250 comparo.

[@chrisjames9795]

Love to see old vs new too ❤

[@jrifda1]

Definitely keen to see a comparison between the two

[@netsiteing]

What about the 2019 Pajero? What’s the difference with the 2020-2021 models?

[@andyc86]

Ford F150 XLT SWB For $106k drive away. Comfort towing ability power and torque long range tank fantastic fuel economy it’s a no brainer.

[@user-gk1nt6sm2z]

My mate had 17 year old prado, I have the pajero,both 250kkm, his engine died, $16k to replace. Mines going wonderfully.

[@Dubsys]

Your mate got absolutely ripped off

[@davidweber4984]

New Prado has a 3500kg towing capacity.

[@noticiasdeultimahora8290]

Yes please compare them, if you could include the generation before that as well would be cool

[@Paris-wo1iy]

Yes!!! Definitely dothe comparison between the 2 prados. I am in the market to buy a 'mid' size SUV. Even include the everest to compare ew to old... plus would make for good KZbin footage. Okay keep up the good work guys. Look foward to seeing that vid..

[@rodneym5868]

You guys should do old v new Prado! I have the 150 Prado Kakadu and I can fault it, very reliable and tows well with the air suspension which is something the new one doesn’t have.

[@daviddenley3512]

In the UK Nissan don't send us any large SUV's the nearest we get in the Navara CrewCab or the X-Trail! When they used to send us the Nissan Patrol it never had a meaty engine, we were supposed to swoon at the 2.8 4 banger "Spit"

[@user-uq7io2os3r]

LC ver Pajero and both have the same offroad capability, and the same fuel thirst 😉 but tunning/ modding arena for pajero is far wider/richer all across world, so you get lump of spare cash and the same towing,offroad cross country capabilities. PAJERO is cler winner as a daily, towing,school run, cross country "tank"👍

[@gardiros]

A comparison of new vs. old would be great! I was lucky enough to snag a brand new Dec 2023 build Prado VX, so am interested to see the difference.

[@Bullman1974]

What about the base spec new Prado?

[@4x4Overlanding247]

Do the 150 v 250 comparison for sure! 👌👍😎 I want a 250 now! You should see if you can get a 120 and a 90 series as well and the FULL PRADO EVOLUTION!! I've had a 90 for 10yrs and absolutely love it!!

[@planetrekka828]

That's a YES to the comparison

[@croydonq135]

I waa surprised not to see a ford everest. But overall the video was entertaining and informative. Cheers 🍻

[@johnniekeymer]

Does the BMW X5 (F15) 2016/17 come into the conversation? I’m looking to upgrade from a 2000 Nissan Pathfinder for a family car. Dont need full on off road capability; just want to be able to drive down an unsealed road at 50-60kmph without breaking the car or getting shaken to bits. I know the bmw isn’t a true off roader but you can pick a 7-8yo one with 60-70kms for $45-50 AUD and the inside feels next level to Toyota etc

[@eduardalemanyquiroga1296]

What's your opinion on the pajero swb 3.8 v6? Is it a good buy?

[@UncleJoeLITE]

2:20 Dunno that pricing cars by the kg is really the best metric guys. Unless you have a deep (& weird) love of steel ofc. Big steel is like flexing by showing off a big zirconia.

[@stevenhouben2224]

It’d be cool to see the old Vs new Prado comparison 👍

[@Rudigerbitte]

Totally different price point, but what do you think of the Discovery 2?

[@tturi2]

I like that the new prado could be a hybrid

[@lentman]

2 near new Pajeros for the price of 1 new Prado. Good sense check guys, always great info in your videos.

[@ubernoob103]

Totally off topic, but i’d love for you guys to do a modern honda hybrid. I appreciate theyre not really old enough to even be used buys, but i’d love jim’s opinion on hondas dual motor hybrid system.

[@mattnaz]

Could you do a should you buy of the a90 supra looking at them at the moment🙏

[@glenobrien727]

Get the new one ....I would hate that sinking feeling when you pull up at the lights in a recently purchased previous model and the new model stops next to you

[@johnhannonHanno]

How do hybrids go after a few river crossings?

[@bishop883i]

You may or may not be able to answer this for me. I’m looking at my first 4 wheel drive but it will barely ever get on dirt except for a couple hundred of kilometres total a year. It’s going to be my daily driver and its other job will be to pull a horse float 10 to 20 times a year. I’m only looking at 4 wheel drives as a tow rig. So it’s also baffling. Any idea where I should start looking. Any help would greatly appreciated.

[@mwat22]

Definitely get them and compare

[@yolo_360]

Please compare the 3 cars, base model of LC 300, the top model of kakadu,and the new LC prado top madel