FIRST TIME OFF-ROAD 250 PRADO + Tow Test

[@boxoffisa]

I came to enjoy this couple’s video and then found these stupid and negative comments again. Many people aren’t happy indeed. These people are living their dream and I wish I had same. Also I want that new prado regardless of the price. What matters is memories and experience. Guys, enjoy don’t listen to haters.

[@lilandjake]

😭😭😭😭 Thank you!!!! That is so so kind of you. 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼

[@boxoffisa]

@ ❤️😊

[@ronnie9103]

Shut up and get a life !!!

[@simonep2932]

Congrats guys we can’t wait for our 250 to arrive!

[@jeremyharris4415]

Awesome video Lily and Jake really enjoyed it. Yes you definitely find what you need to be done to your car as soon as you drive it and start towing with it is well. Always looking forward to seeing you both on Saturday next episode

[@adampowell4867]

Really happy with your content. Cool to watch you use the 250 and give honest unfiltered feedback. Be awesome to see what modifications you do.

[@LorettaTaylor-o7b]

Good on you guys Love your episodes Lil you always make me smile ❤️

[@Chippy-AUS]

Congratulations again Lil and Jake……. I can’t wait to watch as you add options/extras to the Prado…….🍻

[@sky73x]

18:35 - can remove rear/3rd row seats but for legal compliance (warranty aside) the seatbelts cannot be removed. When the belts are removed the fuzz deem it to no longer be a "temporary" removal and will sting you for it.

[@Mechanic-Mark]

Hi Lil and Jake loving your videos and content. I also love my old Prado as well so I get where you’re coming from. I can see you will get it all sorted, in time, as you do with any new vehicle. I’m really looking forward following the journey with you.

[@DanielMika865]

"In ya face", Haha. New here, loving the content guys, keen to see what you do with the new bus!

[@lilandjake]

Welcome aboard! Happy you’re here!!! 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼

[@63holden]

Happy Saturday, so happy for you guys and will follow this new stage of your adventures with interest. ❤

[@lilandjake]

Yay! Thank you! Can’t wait to tell you all about it!!! 🙌🏼🤍

[@63holden]

@lilandjake how hard was Jake fan girling? 🤣❤️

[@lilandjake]

Hahahhahah!! Soooo hard! 😅😅😅

[@simonep2932]

Where can we find the statement about warranty with the rear seats ?

[@bishopkinlyside8477]

Hi Lil and Jake, it’s like you won the gold lotto. I’m so happy for you both Lil You are so excitable and I must say, I absolutely love it. I’m so proud of you both , keep up the good work love the videos Cliff from Logan city, Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺 I’m on big island 🏝️

[@martin60688]

Hi Guys thanks for a cool movie exited to pick up my own soon😊

[@kevanharding9716]

Love hearing your thoughts , can’t wait for the mods….definitely lookin the goods. Look how comfy Hazel looks 😀 she’s lovin it.

[@macpreston]

Ripper ep guys! So stoked you hit the big hill haha middle track next time 💪🏼

[@lilandjake]

@@macpreston one day soon! Just gotta get some lift into this bad boi! But I don’t think it will ever compete with the dad bus!

[@Paul.Reid123]

Loved watching Jake fan boy over TJ and Mac lol. They are bloody awesome though. Gladcto see you loving thevbew Prado. A couple of mods and will be perfect

[@Mrbuckaroonie..]

I am going to Esperence next time I come over West. Those beaches are bloody amazing.

[@250PRADOOZ]

Haha massive respect dojng the rock climb on stock wheels

[@GTremor-t7g]

Hey Jake Sadly I canceled my Altitude because I Tow 2.8T When we did the numbers with ball weight and camping gear with no aftermarket bling we were right on GVM Rang Toyota about GVM Upgrade and they said we can do after market if we want, but no warranty guarantees Also found out the GVM Upgrade won’t be available for 6-12 months Hope you guys aren’t over your axle load or GVM Safe travels 👍

[@lilandjake]

@@GTremor-t7g hey! Dang, sorry to hear about that, yea they definitely don’t have much payload without an upgrade. Be interesting to actually weigh one without the rear seats and things in it. Give everyone a real world figure.

[@mixalis6168]

A mate did the same! toyota really failed on this prado !

[@antonilavin2488]

Check out the tear down video comparing drive train and suspension parts on 300 v 250. Every component in the 300 is sturdier and more robust. Including the diff. 3 tons behind that? I know which one I’d rather use as a tow vehicle. These guys broke their last vehicle and I think they’ll break this too. But as KZbinrs that’s probably okay. And I reckon one reason they bought the Prado is to maximise interest in the channel. Fair enough.

[@lordcmdradama3969]

This ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5rLhaZvndNskLMsi=0ro1E6coY52ESnql

[@astra686]

No shit

[@scottprice1943]

Interesting tow test, from what I understand power is same as old model, which that and lite weight of Prado would make 3 t plus iffy. Single axle 3t caravan now thats scary, good job

[@luisdasilva9250]

Power is the same but it’s a much heavier car

[@gavindereus3643]

Jake, when on sand you should turn traction control off?😊

[@gunshipanropace2gunshipand119]

Not needed, its a Landcruiser

[@MrBede80]

Great video guys 👍🏻 thanks for sharing the first hook up too! good to see it for the first time and the couple of things to keep in mind with the new set up. Looks like a pretty capable setup 👍🏻

[@paintandpinotinperth7868]

I love how much you were fan girling Jake 😍 It’s why I love you guys so much, you’re both so real! 💜 Not sure about the Tuff Terrain gear tho mate, I’ve had some real potatoes from them. Hit and miss with quality control. Think I’d go for the MoRRFlate over this one. Safe travel back east. Loved having you guys here in WA 💜

[@lilandjake]

@@paintandpinotinperth7868 hahaha, yes I’m a big fan of tj and Mac! ok that’s interesting about the compressor, we’ve not had a lot to do with tuff terrain, but from what we’ve had has been ok. I will look into the morr flare though. Thanks legend! ❤️

[@stephenmiller9254]

Just curious as to why you didnt air down on any of the sand ?? Makes the car work so much harder when you are running road pressures in them. It makes a massive difference when aired down for the tyres to float more over the sand and not work the prado so hard

[@jliquorish]

Are you legal with your mirrors? Have you checked?

[@dcooper7665]

Love the video guys. This vehicle seems very capable. Removing back seat was never going to void warranty neither will other mods if installed correctly by a shop with an engineering license. Can't wait to see your trip across the Nullarbor it should be epic. Enjoy the fact you have made the right decision for you.

[@robertjohnston3658]

Don’t believe it! Warranty is NOT a dealership managed product but is a manufacturer inclusion to the selling price of the vehicle and the dealership is simply an agent and acts as such. Toyota is voiding warranties for ANY modifications done to the vehicle, if they believe it MAY (?) have an effect on the car systems, electronics, engine or driveline! ALL manufacturers are tightening warranty compliance and trying to reduce costs in the warranty coverage as this is either an internally funded or external insurance cost of manufacturing. All these costs are on the rise , so be aware of the reality, of the manufacturer’s cost reduction attempts. Modify to suit your needs, but Mr Toyota, Nissan or Wombat motors will take you for a ride if they can!

[@rob7385]

Toyota voiding warranty it what they do best!

[@SethHalstead]

You don't need new suspension, you just need a weight distribution hitch with sway control, set up so both the trailer and LC ride level.

[@woznme100]

Bad idea for towing off black top. Gvm/gcm is the only real, safe and legal option

[@SethHalstead]

@woznme100 maybe for serious "offroad" towing, but I would argue it's almost more important for dirt road travel. Significant tongue weight creates a fulcrum on the rear axle that over weights the rear axle and under weights the front axle, even if you use air bags to level it. Less weight on your front tires means less breaking force and less steering in an emergency stop. Additionally, for light offroad towing, this can be very dangerous when going downhill. So for true offroad towing, use a lighter trailer, but if you are going to tow a heavier trailer, distribute that downward force across both vehicle axles. This is also more important in short wheel base vehicles because it is much easier for trailer sway to cause significantly reduced control.

[@Pauls_YouTube]

@@SethHalstead you're correct. Sadly a lot of people do not understand physics.....

[@bishopkinlyside8477]

Hi Jack, can’t you turn that hitch around so it’s upside down that way you can flatten the van out Just a thought

[@lilandjake]

@@bishopkinlyside8477 i actually went outside and looked at this! But na you can’t, the design of it is that way for the little suspension piece in it. Just have to wait for lift!

[@rossharvey1496]

With a full tank, 150kg of people, max 350kg on the tow ball and you have maybe 20kg spare on GVM? It’s a relatively heavy car so it should anchor the van okay. The GCM looks like it can handle plenty of cargo if it is in the van. If the rear hatch can still open can you invert that tow hitch to get the tow pin higher?

[@TJANDMAC]

Cant believe how ripped off I got with my screen in the 300 haha, Prado nailed it

[@lilandjake]

Could say the same about our motor! Hahah, thanks for the drone footage legend!

[@tonem6558]

Should have got free bogged hat.

[@lyndalouise3480]

Hi Lil and Jake from Tassie, the Prado seemed to handle its first off road, loved the drive up the big rock. Keep having fun.👏👏👍🕺💃🐕💐

[@JoAnneFinn-i5m]

Love you guys and beautiful Hazel it’s so cool to watch you and your adventures. Be safe 😊❤❤

[@krh007]

I see Tough Dog Suspension have already clocked up 1,000kms testing and have now just swapped out the factory suspension to raise the car & beef up the rear suspension with their own product & are now out bush doing R&D to test and dial it all in for the best combo package before they launch the product (noting the factory rear coils were regularly hitting the bump stops) Next it needs 17inch rims with decent tyre wall height as a must do mod and the best looking rim for that is the ROH Assault in machined finish "Stunning Rim" (17 x 8" or 9" pref if they fit )

[@Colin_In_VK]

Don't forget Do Not use 0w-20 oil it will kill it in Australia especially towing and in our heat, use 5w-30 or even 5w-40 as you are in hotter conditions and towing. You will see why if you watch just Autos Mechanical videos.

[@jasonmcnamara1745]

I'd even go 10w40 in summer

[@brianmaclennan561]

That's the 300

[@mikefoster7085]

That's "if" you overload the vehicle and tow in soft sand attempting to take the vehicle beyond it's factory limits. Plenty towing around AU without issue.

[@lindaneumann3301]

Great car upgrade, cheap suggestion for rear suspension on car - air bag in the springs. We did this to our 300 to help lift the rear when towing. We put no more than 30psi in the air bags under row. Works a treat.

[@robertwilson1827]

What 4x4 modifications can you do without voiding the warranty?? Regards, r

[@rodzilla1557]

We are in Esperance too. Will try the rock Sunday ❤

[@huubang]

Did you do anything to the bottom/chassis/under body? How did it cope with the salt? Any rust?

[@SimAdz2024]

Hey, don't use the lane assist feature while you're towing anything. The dealer should've told you that before you started towing, and you can also find that info in your manual or online.

[@Marks.Reviews]

Thanks for advising that it comes standard with a tow bar. Very happy to know that. That’s a very nice Easter egg. No dedicated Australian car review channel that l have come across so far e.g CarExpert, Chasing cars, Drive has mentioned this. You should be able to power fold the mirrors in to help protect them.

[@donr62]

@@Marks.Reviews but not a brake controller. Makes no sense.

[@slowboat6021]

Esperance has some beautiful beaches for sure. loved Warton beach. i'm not a fan of the hitch Jake, it's heavy and puts the ball further from back axle which puts more leverage out the back. anyhow have happy travels.

[@danestead84]

The boxes in the back of your car fit the style of the back of the new Prado 250 😂

[@meganbutton02]

Love ya work guys ❤❤

[@lilandjake]

Thank you so much Megan!! 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼

[@ChrisCorless]

Hope your travels are treating you well. Was curious if you are able to charge the van from the Prado while underway and if it took much pfaffing?

[@susanmccusker5931]

Great episode

[@rodneym5868]

There is a bit of negativity on the new Prado but if you haven’t seen it in person or driven it, this 4x4 is fantastic! Yes the 7 seats is a let down but if you don’t need the 7 seat set up go the GX or Altitude 5 seat. I’ve driven the Altitude and we’re ordered one, the built quality and materials used will last a very long time. Coming from the 150 the new 250 is a step up in IMO, anyway love your channel guys and we enjoy watching you 😊👍

[@lilandjake]

Hey legend, thanks so much for the positivity. They are an amazing car aren’t they. Plus people can drive what they want to drive, if we all drove the same car, life would be so boring! Thanks for watching legend ❤️

[@rodneym5868]

@@lilandjake Absolutely 100% guys 👍😁

[@rob7385]

Looks like a nice car with good tech, but the running gear is very underwhelming! 🤷‍♂️

[@rodneym5868]

@ But very reliable!!

[@rob7385]

@@rodneym5868 1gd reliability I’m not so sure🤔

[@Lainiefj]

The new adventure really begins so much fun ahead for you and just a little reminder, although it probably doesn't matter now you're leaving WA but max speed when towing is 100 😜

[@w0bblyd0inkb0ink]

18:35 doesn't void the warranty but in QLD it is illegal, I'm in NSW.

[@christianjesusthomas6737]

Hey guys great video! Whats the mpg for the Prado now that you are using it more? And whats the best thing that you like on the Prado? Keep it up. Best,

[@lilandjake]

Hey! Without the van it does about 9 lph and with the van it’s about 17. And I don’t think you could go past the looks, never seen a standard car look so good! Thanks for watching!

[@highvibe4839]

I think you would have made a good pilot Jac, you just plod along with your calm disposition, not many would buy a new car and put it on the beach let alone drive it straight up a rock! 👍

[@woznme100]

The problem with all that is the first time you go over a steep hump or dip you'll bend or brake chassis or draw bar or both. Your hitch leveller is designed for flat roads and gentle slopes.

[@bitminerbob6731]

Are you gonna upgrade the rear suspension with bags as well as the lift kit or just go with the lift kit?

[@PP-bm7zp]

Tyres down to 18 psi, centre diff lock on, hold tc for 7 seconds in sand, it will go everywhere. Tc is amazing in rocky conditions, always leave it on in those conditions. Enjoy.

[@A-gamer123]

just a question, i got a Prado as-well I'm not sure where the half nappy is for the trailer hitch, can you tell me

[@Retiredroamers]

How does your rear axle load fare towing the 3t Van? Also where will you put all the stuff you had in the Ranger canopy for your adventures??

[@lilandjake]

Hey! Haven’t got that tested yet! And to be honest there wasn’t that much stuff in the ranger canopy. We sold the swag and the boat. The canopy was always empty because of gcm requirements. What was in it fitted into a few Bunnings tubs in the back of the Prado

[@michaelcrough4922]

Hi Jake and Lil. Will a weight distribution hitch push the front down and level the car. Cheers enjoy your new 250, a bit jelous..

[@mikefoster7085]

Quite possibly at GVM with van loaded?

[@johnemmanuelvero2313]

Recent new subscriber here! Getting the new prado myself ! Would like to know is it a good idea to have it rust proofed ? Ive heard it is just snake oil to get money fromt the dealer

[@jamesdowning1798]

AdBlue usage when towing ?

[@JacksonBiggles]

I am sure you could get it bogged Jake. Angle grinder will fix low hitch.

[@lilandjake]

@@JacksonBiggles yes I can’t wait to get this thing stuck on a beach somewhere!

[@Col.B1]

Just get bigger springs in the back, Dobinsons a few hundred bucks, fixed my Prado van sag.

[@lilandjake]

Yes that’s on the list!

[@Col.B1]

@@lilandjake I did 2" lift first then had to upgrade rear springs, so make sure they upgrade rear springs with the lift, went with 300kg springs from memory. Also check your rear axle capacity. cheers

[@lilandjake]

Good tip! We’ve been looking into airbags also, I’ll have a look! Thanks for watching!

[@woznme100]

If you don't want a wired air compressor, a milwaukee m12 or m18 is next best. Same battery and charger as battery tools and you don't need to carry extra hoses and leads. Air bags are a bandaid. Suspension upgrade or gvm is best. Enjoying your journey, cheers!

[@jliquorish]

Unless you have a Discovery 4!

[@TheTurboYoda]

can confirm m18 air compressor is way better than the ones that atach to the battery

[@croz2530]

6th most likely is your 1:1 gear, 7 and 8 will be your non towing over drive gears, if you want to save your gear box do not tow in 7 and 8

[@lilandjake]

Yea nice, I’ll keep that in mind. That’s probably why it won’t go into those overdrive gears. Thanks for watching!

[@orangejuicepony6881]

No relevant if it locks the converter, the ZF8 Speed has been around for 20 years and has never needed to be in anything but drive. Temps stay at 80c even when towing at 115kmh in 8th for thousands of kms. I know this isn't a ZF box, but it will be spec to be almost the same, full lock up is all that matters.

[@undercovervideos100]

Hi Lil, Hi Jake, Congratulations on the new Prado - comments on this video - first, do yourself a favour and get yourself a stone stomper ASAP - for the sake of your rear window. On the RPM at 90 kmh - the Prado is a four cylinder and has much less torque than the ranger hence why it wants to rev higher - you could try towing without using tow mode and see if it uses 7 or 8th when obviously the revs will drop and fuel consumption will improve, providing the engine can pull the weight in those gears

[@jasonswift7098]

You must have pre-ordered this car and its come into stock, its only been released 3 day ago and why did you get the 7 seater option?

[@leeblake1437]

If you get airbag man air bags it will fix the problem without changing the springs . Ask harry he did the same on his Prado. And after doing that on my Fortuner it fixed the sag without compromising the ride

[@stevepierce3509]

Did you guys consider a from Factory order a GVM up grade ? If so why did you not ? As it would cost mega more after it gets registered and ownership is taken.

[@fitsbest]

If you can provide a link to the Toyota Statement as mentioned at 18:41 that would be great. Because it is nowhere online after an advanced AI search. Thanks heaps.

[@Odyssey_Off-Road]

It’s within our dealer bulletins… these can’t be printed out but we let every customer know that it’s possible

[@commonsense-grs]

My original Prado did the same, the rear went down a lot. Did go with a 2" HD coil lift, was overall happy with it, but should have just gone with airbags in the rear, more versatile, more adjustment to get ride level perfect. This is one of the reasons I love my 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland, hook up my van start the car and presto perfectly level every time, full air suspension, love it.

[@shepherdsadventure]

Haha straight into the adventures 😄 Love it 😀 Glad you got the hitch all sorted and am now towing successfully 👍 🎉 Love how you give the 🖕🏻 to the haters in such a polite way. I wouldn't have! Even on this video they still want to hate. If people don't want to watch the new Prado, don't watch your channel. It's pretty simple 👌 Don't be turned off guys

[@robfreo5209]

Welcome to the 90kms hour club.

[@lilandjake]

Hahaha, we’ve moved up from the 85, in the big leagues now

[@robfreo5209]

@lilandjake my hilux does 90 ks down hill and up hill.15 liters /100ks

[@That_Girl_7_11]

I hope you’re coming through Whyallla when you drive across the Nullarbor, we need to give Hazey a cuddle and a pat 😁😁😁. It would be nice to see you guys too, but let’s be honest, Hazey is really the Star of the Show 🤣😂🤣😂

[@scottcox8559]

It's slower than the old one. 😂 Good old Toyota, always doing the bare minimum. Once you fully load this thing and hang your van off the back, you're going to need a tune.

[@rob7385]

And probably a new motor or rebuild in about 100-150thou kms just like a lot of hiluxs that have been loaded up 🤷‍♂️

[@billyjohns3872]

Sounds like a victor lawnmower 😅

[@_nick57]

Mac and TJ

[@genejohnson5530]

Your transmission will be happiest in 6 th gear while towing. The extra air flow will keep things cooler. Fuel consumption will be a bit more but what the heck. You have 3 tonne on the hitch.

[@Richard-d5x5e]

It may not void your warranty by taking out the seats but what about taking out the floor over the battery ? Also your state authority needs you to change it from a 7 seat to a 5 seat vehicle ? Does your insurance company need to know ? just sayin

[@Beast_V6]

What is the width of the trailer?

[@donr62]

Isn’t it a good idea for the brake controller knob be placed where it’s accessible to the passenger?

[@commonsense-grs]

Agree 100%, have mine on the centre console, in easy reach for both driver and passenger.

[@davidflorance7650]

I read about the passenger applying the brake in a caravan magazine by some old bloke , l nearly choked , if the driver can't control the rig he shouldn't be driving.😅

[@donr62]

@ not everyone is magnificent as you

[@Scalihoo]

Nice Toyota..!

[@CoreyyMartin]

Content wise I could not care less is you don't drop into palms, nolans or gunshot but why not be the first to take the new 250 up the Tele. On ya!

[@gregpenhaligon7859]

$90k down, and here comes the touring equipment $$$... Bar work, suspension, winch, lights, protection film, UHF radio....

[@discoveringwa2204]

In coil aiir bags are the go. We run them on the 200. They are good as you can adjust them for load/ ball weight differences, although a 2" lift all round and a GVM upgrade would be a good thing. Another thing, do you have to tow in tow mode or can you tow in normal mode, that may let gears 7/8 engage.

[@stephenburford54]

Pretty much all the mid-sized 4WD's need a suspension upgrade to tow safely. Same with my MU-X 3500kg towing capacity but without a suspension upgrade was towing at a horrible angle.

[@errol7158]

worth checking out, if your after a rear bar for your prado." The Cruiser Company".

[@elwoodroadsmusic9639]

Jake when you get rid of those hwy tyres and drop some real ones on, your rpm will come down anyway. Unless you're like me and stay with the same speed reading haha

[@SusanWright-ft2kp]

It’s giving me anxiety you not having car seat covers !!

[@jerryfrench2981]

Get a Thumper for 99 bucks. Airs two tyres up at a time in about a minute. If you break it buy another.. Cheap as chips.

[@KimPiva]

Is everyone on youtube trying to be an Adrian Portelli and raffling cars off to make a quick buck these days??

[@Barry-26]

GXL ?

[@davidmilledge221]

Gee these cars have come along way with technology the beeping stuff comfort and mabe fuel economy , but are they any better 4 wheel driving against the average 80series with say a 3inch lift , have things got better with 4 wheel driving or its just better because off the new fancier stuff 🤔 i would like to up grade but im scared I'd be going backwards in reliability , and have they improved the hand brake the prado is on a landcuiser chassis now im told so the hand brake would still be shit then 😢

[@lilandjake]

Hey legend, I think it’s a bit of a compromise with any car, definitely an 80 series might be better in some situations, and the Prado in others, I think reliability in new cars is great for the first 5 years. I think an older car is great for someone who is mechanically minded, and able to keep up little maintenance jobs, horses for courses

[@davidmilledge221]

​​@@lilandjakegee my car is 28 years old you saying a new car after 5 years could be a handful to work on doing it yourself 😢 gotta love the old Toyotas then , I think you just saved me 1 hundred thousand dollars then , thank you , yer i think I'll still stick with the old girl shes been good to me 😊 🍻

[@ronnie9103]

Drive your own car , man up !!!

[@PietroH53]

Why do they give these cars a 3500kg towing capacity? The rear suspension is not suitable.

[@Cammydearie]

Flip the hitch upside down and you’ll be good to go, no?

[@tonem6558]

Put a bogged hat on it

[@martinthomson5221]

Bad choice 300 yeh

[@lettyelspeth]

So many squeaky wheels in the comments. Epic car, we are impatiently waiting for ours to arrive. Have really enjoyed watching you guys, especially keen to see how you go with towing as ours will have the same job. Don’t let the keyboard warriors from the dark corners of the internet dim your light. ❤

[@krh007]

Not a fan of that spare tyre under the rear re clearance & the pain in the butt experience of swapping out a flat when out bush. That adjustable tow hitch needs an angle grinder as those lower end notches would never come in use. Two glaring facts - needs a 2inch lift+ heavier rated rear springs+ 17inch rims with decent tyre wall height. Perhaps a rear mount swing out spare tyre & swap in an extra fuel tank underneath would be logical unless these new Prado's are just being purchased as a general use runabout. I still can't understand why the twin turbo V6 was not an option as it is a no brainer in any mans language (Ford Everest damn got it right)

[@tallboy49]

Sounds like a Toyota commercial