Reflections on the Ukraine War

Please join Dr. Eliot A. Cohen, the Arleigh A. Burke Chair in Strategy, for a discussion on the Ukraine War with GEN Wesley K. Clark, USA (Ret.), the 12th Supreme Allied Commander, Europe. Dr. Cohen and General Clark will discuss the current frontline, political situation in Kyiv and Moscow, and future direction of the war.
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[@aliyevsarkhan]

"We were worried about Putin's red lines, not our red lines" - this is a good description of framework that is in minds of US politicins. Thank you for this.

[@MrR40388]

BS! If that's true,why did we expand nato? That was the red line.

[@MiySadochok]

Such an excellent analysis of the war! So sad ,that Ukraine became a victim of stipid decisions and commands from the US.

[@genrcflyer]

From Victoria Nuland using her public office to enhance her private position.

[@Bultish]

stupid or deliberate?

[@rollinmc5427]

Two words to summarize American foreign policy: arrogance and ignorance

[@vanjamalogorski8898]

Teenage Superpower, God have mercy on us all!

[@lesliewoinarowicz7018]

Sounds like you got your little feelings hurt child.

[@rollinmc5427]

@@lesliewoinarowicz7018 thanks for proving my point lol

[@stephenglover8828]

Destructive and harmful I would say

[@gmvs62]

And hypocrisy

[@Gazer873]

Thank you, finally someone actually said it. It was too little all the time. It was strategically and deliberately though. And exactly it was never meant for Ukr to win. And no, not only US had that strategy, all had the same one, only Ukr didnt. Why??? It’s so sad. Is Ukr really the only country not afraid of RF?

[@olenapravylo]

Ukraine found itself without options, while others cling to the illusion of a once stable world, believing it still exists. However, the reality is that peaceful territories are diminishing globally. Inevitably, this turmoil will reach their doorstep or affect future generations. The prevalence of hypocrisy and double standards among politicians only exacerbates the situation.

[@markb8468]

​@@olenapravyloYup.

[@Gazer873]

@@olenapravylo thats what everyone sais, but politicians have their secret service briefings, they know better than that. I see that many behave as if they are bought, whole parties behave like that even. There is also massive rumor about this. Is this much more severe that we all thought?

[@olegalmaty4659]

An interesting psychology of the Anglo-gangster, the occupier and the neo-colonialist. The order is based on the gangster rules of the occupation of countries. Go home, jackals.

[@drywallsurgeon]

Actually making war is like making sausage and watching paint dry. As long as you’re on the battlefield because you haven’t an aversion to the former. Some do enjoy making sausage. Have you ever heard of the guy who jumped off a building because he didn’t believe in gravity? As he was falling, people would open their windows and ask him if he still stood by his gravity assertion. His answer: “So far so good” Warfare is an ugly ugly business.

[@davidgrant3807]

General Clark poignantly illustrates why Politicians make very poor generals.

[@miropribanic5581]

thanks to his sincerity I now know that the US were involved in 2014 when, as most people say, "the Russians took Crimea"

[@NeoZondix]

@@miropribanic5581 russians invaded crimea with troops, they didn't take it

[@spudwesth]

Generals make very poor US generals.

[@Brandespada]

-"General Clark, considering your assessment that we were unprepared at the time don't you think Victoria Nuland jumped the gun supporting the coup in Kiev in 2014?" -"Crickets"

[@genrcflyer]

Zelensky foremost.

[@jankowalyk7301]

The West was almost always naive regarding RuSSia.

[@Hae3ro]

Good man, telling the truth

[@eilakanninen8001]

Not thretruth! USA started thr war in 2014. The USA and Ukrainian Nazis have been killing Russian-speaking Ukrainians since 2014. What the hell right do you have to do that. The USA staged a coup in Ukraine! yes, this truth will also be revealed. Stay at home, you are not needed anywhere! The truth doesn't change, even if the truth is left unsaid here too!

[@xxyyzzplants131]

Great Man-with an excellent command of the European political situations and complexities.

[@AlexanderMarochko]

Great interview. Thanks from Kyiv.

[@tomekjaskolowski]

I am from Poland , i follow smart people in Poland , germany , russia , Ukraine , UK , Australia, USA , but this guy!! This guy he really nailed it , from any point of view !!

[@nepredvidiv]

Give us a couple of names of who you follow. We can check how smart you. By the way Clark is war criminal !

[@user-qu6qg7sk4v]

​@@nepredvidivHe goes to the bare-chested judoka for totally not quack history lessons, John Mearscheisser for moral guidance and RT for balanced, honest journalism. Smart chap right? 😎

[@nepredvidiv]

Mr. Mearsheimer is gold, also Jeffrey Sachs! @@user-qu6qg7sk4v

[@tamirhalperin2404]

I am also from Poland and it is clear to me that Russia is the victim while NATO is the aggressor. The fact that Poland supports NATO's Nazis in Ukraine harmonizes perfectly with their support for the ZioNazis in Tel Aviv who are also slaughtering Palestinians for decades. But Andrzej Jewda was too busy as their slave to do anything about it. Where are Tusk's comments about the genocide in Gaza now? He is too busy supplying weapons to Nazis in Lwów to worry about that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJybkIh4orCoZrc&lc=UgyYJjMCScPNJ0jvrR94AaABAg

[@ftwyeah]

US support of Ukraine was not about Ukraine winning, it was about weakening Russia. Now Russia is stronger than ever. Biden should resign.

[@jakelilevjen9766]

More people need to not just hear this, but understand it.

[@stefansekulic7903]

Even the Tucker Carlson crowd ?

[@BoskoBuha99]

It's not like we never heard globalist propaganda before. It's pretty simple to understand but impossible to beleive (unless you are a braindead American)...

[@ululukululu450]

Exactly. This was always a US sponsored war. US should've just accepted it and gone in full blown helping Ukraine. But the US dithered and care about "international" opinion. Big mistake... Biggest mistake.

[@jakelilevjen9766]

@@ululukululu450 Back to your bridge, troll.

[@casteretpollux]

​@@ululukululu450The idea was to wear both Russia and Europe down. In fact it has been quite successful. Except that Russia was not meant to a) win or b) form wide alliances e.g BRICS.

[@ElZorro85]

This conflict has been really frustrating to watch. Either we (The West) support Ukraine or not. We tell the world we'll help but we're dragging our feet every inch of the way. There's no half-assing this. We have to give Ukraine the tools that they need to defeat Russia .

[@manichaean1888]

Tools like, ehr...nukes? What other "tools" will help Ukies to defeat Russia? And let's imagine Ukraine defeated Russia. How are you going to turn Ukraine to a prosperous country from an economically and socially broke kleptocratic nationalist nightmare that it is today?

[@ice-n-skates]

Give Ukrainean politics more brain and cut off Western propaganda. Ukraine prospered with USSR , now before the war became the poorest country .

[@ElZorro85]

@skatesbefore Maidan they were controlled by a Russian puppet, so the poverty is to blame on Russia. Oh yeah sure, under Soviet rule they were treated to the lovely Holodomor, such great prosperity.

[@Pvt.Conscriptovich]

People don't give a damn about history. People prefer slogans about evil imperialist Russia, evil Putin, evil barbarian West and west values are one that are legitimate.

[@viktorkorniienko133]

It's not a conflict, it's the WAR!

[@idalbasanchez537]

Great conversation thanks, Center Strategy 👍👍👍

[@maxtsukan4464]

Great and sober discussion, thanks from Ukraine. But please, fix the speaker’s microphone, 40 minutes of hearing someone breathe is a bit too much.

[@psaint60]

🤣 Glad it’s not just me! It took a while to figure out where the hell that sound was coming from. I was playing this through a nice speaker. I checked the stove and the toilet. Once I found out what it was, I couldn’t UNHEAR it. 😂 I would have thought the Dolby folks had that one figured out 20 years ago 🤷🏻‍♂️ I think that’s why Gen. Clark kept talking louder. The fact that I stuck with it to the end shows how good Clark was. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@theH0UNDSofD00M]

Imagine what it takes for a man like General Wesley Clark to come to a social media platform and make these statements... Certified legend on my books... Thank you Gen. Clark.

[@johnm7267]

What it takes is money

[@Raikenbolai]

He is a total muppet

[@silviadunderdale9400]

@@johnm7267Lol, what it takes it’s trolling. Jog on!

[@silviadunderdale9400]

@@RaikenbolaiIf you are looking for a muppets, have a look in the mirror.

[@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333]

Wesley Clark is the warmongering coward who in Kosovo tried to push British troops into armed confrontation against the Russian Armed Forces.

[@richardbayer5702]

Clark is very interesting. I haven't heard him speak before to my memory.

[@19angela71]

Thank you, General Clark, for the sober assessment. Please, don’t abandon Ukraine. We need Ukraine to free its territories.

[@allydea]

You "need" that? Really?! What else do you "need"?

[@casteretpollux]

Ukraine wants peace, now.

[@singhvinay1000]

if we go with this logic, then Uk should give back Gibraltor to spain and Falkland to Argentina, Diego Garcia to Mauritius?

[@bujdososzekely]

President Viktor Orban statements abaut Trianon Dictate in June 4. 1920. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWLKnotjYtaGqrs

[@19angela71]

@@singhvinay1000 Your arguments are absolutely irrelevant. Tell me whether Spain is gonna invade Gibraltar, or may be Spain invaded Gibraltar to claimed it for itself. Don’t be ridiculous. Britain and Spain follow international laws and mutual agreements to settle down a question about disputed territories. I remember once Argentina tried to invade Falkland. How did it end? The war in Ukraine is not about territories. You are a narrow-minded person if you think so. It is about restoring the international law, which includes liberation of all Ukrainian lands unlawfully occupied by Russia. Putin wants to restore the glory of the USSR when Russia with poor economy and eternally impoverished population, and therefore, a large army of impoverished slaves, with lot’s tanks and military equipment, and importantly, nuclear weapons and an ability to blackmail anyone with nuclear weapons, could tell you what government you should elect, what policy you should follow, otherwise, Putin’ll unleash the army of slaves on you. He wants to return the world to times of the Warsaw pact. Do you really want to live in those times? Putin is also testing your will to fight, defend your principles and territories. Because we might just give up on Ukraine. But when little green men appear somewhere in Estonia, Latvia to defend right of the “oppressed Russian-speakers”, what would you do? Are you ready to fight and die for Narva? Have you ever heard about this town at the border with Russia? You better study the map to learn places, which you have to defend if we give up on Ukraine. If you don’t want to fight for Narva, then, NATO won’t exist, therefore, that security umbrella that allowed democracy to thrive and prosper doesn’t exist anymore. And small countries even with prosperous economy are gonna be at the mercy of Putin and his puppet regimes in Europe.

[@W_Bin]

2:47 _"we created the oligarchs"_ 12:00 _"instead of standing on the principle, as the attack approached ... we pulled our trainers out of western Ukraine where they could have served as a deterrent"_ Thank you sir. you are putting so many pieces of the horrendous jigsaw puzzle into place. Your honesty is so, so refreshing.

[@casteretpollux]

I liked the part about " our Special Forces pretending to be an indigenous movement "

[@W_Bin]

@etpollux The Russians did pretend, but he didn't use that word and never said US forces "pretended". 4:58 _”yeah they were Russian intelligence agents they tried to do what we do with our special forces which was create an indigenous movement_ _“it didn't work very well uh they did assassinate some some Christian missionaries in there and they rounded up some hooligans and criminals but ultimately to take over the part of Donbas they had to have the Russian army come in and to support them and in 2014 we had these poor Russian soldiers they took away their their phones they took their ID card so you're going on an exercise and suddenly they're being shot at and shooting back at the Ukrainians inside Ukraine and we let all that pass”_ ... although probably no one knew until all the Russian agents started spilling it out on videos years afterwards... Igor Girkin, 2015 - only a few drunks and criminals, mostly interested in looting and vengeance on officials who had caught and prosecuted them - nothing would have happened without troops sent by Putin Danil Beszonov (official publicity deputy for the "DPR") 2019: nobody would join them. Only 0.28 of military capable Donbas men were "persuaded" to join Journalists who observed troops and arms transported across the border Duped Russian volunteers who were generally disgusted

[@genrcflyer]

The 53rd Infantry Combat Brigade was in Ukraine from Nov 21 til Sep 22, this a Florida National Guard unit and they weren’t there for summer camp. Then 160 members of the same unit including the CO went back from Dec 21 until just before Feb 24, 2022. The General can flap his wings and crow but the American people are not willing to accept 3,600 casualties a day.

[@W_Bin]

@@genrcflyer _* American people are not willing to accept 3,600 casualties a day.*_ Yes, boris, that is why it's time for the rest of the world to take our un back. *_Ukraine War Live Chat w/ Talaria: Russia Isn't Even in the United Nations..._*

[@genrcflyer]

@@W_Bin The UN is deeply concerned.

[@nataliyaprots8208]

The most open speech from military expert I ever heard regarding the war in Ukraine. Thank you!

[@spudwesth]

Clueless.

[@nichje3850]

The only bad thing with this "open speech from military expert" of General Clark is that almot everything he is saying seem to be Nato propaganda..I so hope you decide to listen not only this expert but also to people representing other perspectives so you can get a more complete perspective of what really caused the Ukraine war and what really are happening right now in the war.. Here is something the "military expert" of General Clark will not tell you which you may find interesting: 5 ways NATO PROVOKED the Ukraine War: 1. Nato expansion in Eastern Europe and more and more along the Russian border. Expansion even if Russia said many time to Nato that they see the expansion as a very serious threat to national security of Russia. So by the expansion new nato members felt more secure while Russia for every new member felt the national security of Russia was more and more threaten. In that light. Not so hard so see that if you increase countries feeling of security in this way it can go very wrong if the same expansion are making a superpower feel its national security more and more threaten by every new Nato member that this development one day can lead to conflicts and a war like the one ongoing in Ukraine.. With other words. One superpower, USA, leading a military alliance which take in more and more member close and along another superpower, Russia, borders. Not hard to understand that an expansion of one superpowers military close another superpower could and lead to conflicts and in this case the Ukraine war. Just think how USA would have reacted if a russian military alliance in alternative universe would have started talking about accepting Mexico and Canada as members..US would in this alternative universe for sure had invaded these countries as Russia invaded Ukraine for the same reason to stop an existential threat to national security to arise.. 2. US coup in Ukraine. USA plan and paid for the coup which removed the democratical elected and russian friendly Ukraine government not so many years before the ongoing war of today in Ukraine. 3. Nato governments/In Europe and USA participated in peace negotiations in Minsk and Istanbul with Ukraine and Russia just fooling Russia while sending a lot of Arms to Ukraine. 4. Ukraines governments sending representatives to Donbas to try to stop etnic russians from using russian language and living according to russian culture. This treatment lead to an uprising in Donbas by ethnic russians towards the Ukraine government whoch became a civil war which was ongoing many years before the present big war between Russia and Ukraine today in Ukraine. That the west/nato/us with close ties to Ukraine government did say to their alies in Kiev to stop this treatment was for sure very provoking for Russia. If west had said no the Ukraine goverment would have stopped the bad treatment of ethnic russia as the west otherwise could have stopped the big arm shipments to Ukraine. But the west did nothing. 5. The war declaration towards Russia by Nato representatives for Ukraine. Here it comes. NATO started to talk on western media about the possibility of Nato membership for Ukraine knowing very well that Russia saw Ukraine Nato membership as an existential threat to the National security of Russia. One thing Russia said to Nato representatives many times that they would never accept to be created. Nato knew with others words that a war in Ukraine soon would follow if they started to talk about Nato membership of Ukraine.. And started to talk anyway knowing ver well what would happen. I guess Nato/US wanted the war and the sanction which were a chances for them to turn the Russian public against Putin with big economical problems in Russia as a result of the war as it in best case for Nato, as nato hoped for, it would have resulted in the fall of Putins goverment and a west friendly government taking over the power of Russia. But it did not happen. Horrible that the Ukraine people had to suffer and die and get their country destroyed for this global power play move by Nato/US against Russia. .......................... If Nato had not expanded in the east and western governments had not started to talk about Nato membership of Ukraine and in that way respected Russia national security concerns we would not have the war in Ukraine. Just saying.. .....

[@carinahernandes9044]

Just absolutely love General Clark he is the only sane general nowadays who understand what is going on and tells the truth without taking sides!!! Than man is a hero!!!

[@izimbitskiy]

Great talk

[@garysymons3930]

Brilliant interview , at about 6;50 the General mentions O Bama telling us not to worry about Ukraine because the US needed Russia to help with the Iran nuclear issue . , so even back then the USA seemed to regard Russia as a friend and it gets steadily worse from there . He also mentions that Yeltsin did not like NATO expansion , indicating that Russia wants to call the shots ., even then, and that the US told Ukraine not to repulse the invasion of Crimia in 2014 .

[@robbinnili8934]

Obama is a traitor

[@iangreatbatch683]

Why cant the surplus gear in American deserts just be sent without troubling incompetent politicians. If it is slowly rotting in the desert why count the cost?

[@psaint60]

The shell game is, the obsolete junk in the desert is sent to Ukraine and USG saves millions in storage fees. The USG then assesses the “value” of what we sent to Ukraine and then subtracts that amount from the Ukraine Aid money to “pay ourselves back” for what was sent. The USG then uses that money to buy brand new stuff for us. $60 billion of the $67 billion of the Ukraine Aid is going to pay for 117 production lines in 71 cities in 31 states in the U S of A. Guys like Rand Paul know this. Yet they continue telling Joe Average in the US that we are sending “blank checks” to corrupt politicians in Ukraine. A US politician calling Ukrainian government corrupt 😂 Good one.

[@abupinhus]

It completly in the hands of current administration. There is no legal need to involve legislation. So ask, why current administration do not send our outdated weapons systems to Ukraine?

[@inzhener2007]

Again... The USA could easily prevent the invasion... General is right in all aspects... One practical example is the ATACMS missiles. The USA gave only 20 such missiles in Oct 2023 instead of 200 September 2022. Compare it to 414 ATACMS missiles in March 2003 in Iraq.

[@justingoretoy1628]

We could have prevented the war by taking up Russia's outstetched hand in diplomacy.

[@casteretpollux]

Because the intention was to draw Europe in bit by bit and wear it down.

[@spikezlee]

madding !!

[@GaneshGunaji]

You act like we didn't want this invasion to happen. It's in our elites' interests to perpetuate this war. They can't hold back their excitement when they talk about how cost effective it is for America to spend this money, lose no soldiers, and destroy Russia's equipment and Russian troops using Ukrainian lives. That's how they see this.

[@nichje3850]

General Clark = 100% Nato propaganda. I hope you will be more careful before you write a comment like the one you just wrote. Seem like you just hear what one side of the war are saying and believing everything that they, among them General Clark, say.. Here is something General Clark will never tell you: 5 ways NATO PROVOKED the Ukraine War: 1. Nato expansion in Eastern Europe and more and more along the Russian border. Expansion even if Russia said many time to Nato that they see the expansion as a very serious threat to national security of Russia. So by the expansion new nato members felt more secure while Russia for every new member felt the national security of Russia was more and more threaten. In that light. Not so hard so see that if you increase countries feeling of security in this way it can go very wrong if the same expansion are making a superpower feel its national security more and more threaten by every new Nato member that this development one day can lead to conflicts and a war like the one ongoing in Ukraine.. With other words. One superpower, USA, leading a military alliance which take in more and more member close and along another superpower, Russia, borders. Not hard to understand that an expansion of one superpowers military close another superpower could and lead to conflicts and in this case the Ukraine war. Just think how USA would have reacted if a russian military alliance in alternative universe would have started talking about accepting Mexico and Canada as members..US would in this alternative universe for sure had invaded these countries as Russia invaded Ukraine for the same reason to stop an existential threat to national security to arise.. 2. US coup in Ukraine. USA plan and paid for the coup which removed the democratical elected and russian friendly Ukraine government not so many years before the ongoing war of today in Ukraine. 3. Nato governments/In Europe and USA participated in peace negotiations in Minsk and Istanbul with Ukraine and Russia just fooling Russia while sending a lot of Arms to Ukraine. 4. Ukraines governments sending representatives to Donbas to try to stop etnic russians from using russian language and living according to russian culture. This treatment lead to an uprising in Donbas by ethnic russians towards the Ukraine government whoch became a civil war which was ongoing many years before the present big war between Russia and Ukraine today in Ukraine. That the west/nato/us with close ties to Ukraine government did say to their alies in Kiev to stop this treatment was for sure very provoking for Russia. If west had said no the Ukraine goverment would have stopped the bad treatment of ethnic russia as the west otherwise could have stopped the big arm shipments to Ukraine. But the west did nothing. 5. The war declaration towards Russia by Nato representatives for Ukraine. Here it comes. NATO started to talk on western media about the possibility of Nato membership for Ukraine knowing very well that Russia saw Ukraine Nato membership as an existential threat to the National security of Russia. One thing Russia said to Nato representatives many times that they would never accept to be created. Nato knew with others words that a war in Ukraine soon would follow if they started to talk about Nato membership of Ukraine.. And started to talk anyway knowing ver well what would happen. I guess Nato/US wanted the war and the sanction which were a chances for them to turn the Russian public against Putin with big economical problems in Russia as a result of the war as it in best case for Nato, as nato hoped for, it would have resulted in the fall of Putins goverment and a west friendly government taking over the power of Russia. But it did not happen. Horrible that the Ukraine people had to suffer and die and get their country destroyed for this global power play move by Nato/US against Russia. .......................... If Nato had not expanded in the east and western governments had not started to talk about Nato membership of Ukraine and in that way respected Russia national security concerns we would not have the war in Ukraine. Just saying.. .....

[@vladmykhnenko75]

Everyone should hear this 👆 an absolutely splendid no nonsense interview with the right man to ask correct questions

[@user-mr1um1cg5v]

Absolutely love Gen. Clark. And thanks for mentioning the Christian values of the Western civilization right off the bat. Very brave in the current political climate of intolerance and cowardice towards the great past of our civilization.

[@VladimirVladimirovich1952]

Great past of war and racism.

[@chkorocku]

Thank you, General. Finally someone openly voiced that.

[@user-he2ox4lo9p]

Thank you!

[@jordizee]

Fantastic interview

[@felixf.3392]

This war will be decided by production capacity. Due to the globalized economic order, industrialized countries have relocated their production capacities to developing and emerging countries. That's why Russia produces more weapons and ammunition than all NATO countries combined. The problem is not a lack of money or a lack of political will. If the NATO states now use up their stocks in Ukraine, it is not clear whether they will be able to produce them again in the short term. Because of this shortage of artillery shells, for example, combined with the high demand and the lack of production capacity in the West, the prices for this ammunition are rising immeasurably. And in addition, the USA has made it clear that it will withdraw its military forces from Europe. So a very bleak future awaits the transatlantic community.

[@nikator8097]

I'm missing the Russian Blitzkrieg which is able to take advantage of this. I'm also missing how a natural resources supplier can outproduce in the long run the West which has superior mechanical engineering capacities e.g. in Germany and Japan and superior chips/AI capabilities e.g. in Taiwan and the US.

[@felixf.3392]

@@nikator8097 By the end of 2025, the US will produce 100,000 artillery shells per month. Now Russia can produce almost 500,000 artillery shells per month. And most of the ammunition is produced by Western Europe and the US for their own stocks and only a small part for Ukraine. What is interesting is that these problems of ammunition shortages due to the support of Ukraine have been known for a long time. Just google “Is the United States Running out of Weapons to Send to Ukraine?” Here you can find an interesting scientific article from CSIS from September 2022. And now it's being reported in our media all the time. Even the German Defense Minister and Chancellor have admitted that they cannot keep up with Russia in the production of artillery shells. And since by the end of 2025 the US will produce only a fifth of the artillery ammunition that Russia produces, the problem will not be solved in the future.

[@Realist369]

@@nikator8097you clearly have no idea of warfare unless it’s shooting women and kids with air superiority of course

[@kusanagi0]

This was a great interview, This guy gets it, Biden did many things right about Ukraine but some of the most important things were handled poorly. I hope we are done with obeying russian redlines and start drawing our own redlines and actually acting on them once russia crosses them because they will.

[@olegalmaty4659]

An interesting psychology of the Anglo-gangster, the occupier and the neo-colonialist. The order is based on the gangster rules of the occupation of countries. Go home, jackals.

[@FlorinAlexPopa]

Are you implying Ukraine should be more of a red line for NATO rather than for Russia?

[@richtenney8656]

Its too lates to quibble about red lines theyve been erased by russian tanks

[@hmmm2564]

Lol . Nope this is done

[@W_Bin]

Biden broke the Budapest memorandum. US hasn't guaranteed Ukraine's borders and sovereignty. US conned Ukraine over the Budapest Memorandum. What a joke "will notify the Security Council" while they were simultaneously lying that Russia had a veto.

[@mani7263]

Thank you for this discussion!!!

[@Ede3Fa]

he is adirty old warmoger hé and NATO make a war criminal inyogoslavia

[@pirouzhamidian-rad657]

General Clark is not only brilliant in his field, he also does understand history and politics, and human nature, and he is decent--all the required elements for someone to run as the country's leader. But I guess his only disadvantage would be that can not easily lie, like most politicians do!

[@arnoldvezbon6131]

He is full of shit. This whole interview exposes him as either a retard or a liar.

[@casteretpollux]

Decent? When he approves of supplying bunker busters to drop on babies in a genocide? Please adjust your moral compass.

[@nichje3850]

The only bad thing with General Clark is that he is a 100% Nato propagandist.. As almost everything General Clark is saying in this video is pure Nato propaganda. Recommend you to be very careful before you believe anything General Clark is saying representing the dying empire of the USA. The only thing Biden had to agree with Putin was that Ukraine would never become Nato member and we would never had todays ongoing Ukraine war. If you want to learn stuff General Clark never will tell you read this: 5 ways NATO PROVOKED the Ukraine War: 1. Nato expansion in east of Europe and now more and more along the Russian border. Expansion even if Russia said many time to Nato that they see the expansion as a very serious threat to national security of Russia. So by the expansion new nato members felt more secure while Russia for every new member felt the national security of Russia was more and more threaten. In that light. Not so hard so see that if you increase countries feeling of security in this way it can go very wrong if the same expansion are making a superpower feel its national security more and more threaten by every new Nato member that this development one day can lead to conflicts and a war like the one ongoing in Ukraine.. 2. US coup in Ukraine. USA plan and paid for the coup which removed the democratical elected and russian friendly Ukraine government not so many years before the war. 3. Nato governments/In Europe and USA participated in peace negotiations in Minsk and Istanbul with Ukraine and Russia just fooling Russia while sending a lot of Arms to Ukraine. 4. Ukraines governments sending representatives to Donbas to try to stop etnic russians from using russian language and living according to russian culture. This treatment lead to an uprising in Donbas by ethnic russians towards the Ukraine government whoch became a civil war which was ongoing many years before the present big war between Russia and Ukraine today in Ukraine. That the west/nato/us with close ties to Ukraine government did say to their alies in Kiev to stop this treatment was for sure very provoking for Russia. If west had said no the Ukraine goverment would have stopped the bad treatment of ethnic russia as the west otherwise could have stopped the big arm shipments to Ukraine. But the west did nothing. 5. The war declaration towards Russia by Nato representatives for Ukraine. Here it comes. NATO started to talk on western media about the possibility of Nato membership for Ukraine knowing very well that Russia saw Ukraine Nato membership as an existential threat to the National security of Russia. One thing Russia said to Nato representatives many times that they would never accept to be created. Nato knew with others words that a war in Ukraine soon would follow if they started to talk about Nato membership of Ukraine.. And started to talk anyway knowing ver well what would happen. I guess Nato/US wanted the war and the sanction which were a chances for them to turn the Russian public against Putin with big economical problems in Russia as a result of the war as it in best case for Nato, as nato hoped for, it would have resulted in the fall of Putins goverment and a west friendly government taking over the power of Russia. But it did not happen. Horrible that the Ukraine people had to suffer and die and get their country destroyed for this global power play move by Nato/US against Russia. .......................... If Nato had not expanded in the east and western governments had not started to talk about Nato membership of Ukraine and in that way respected Russia national security concerns we would not have the war in Ukraine. Just saying..

[@nichje3850]

The only bad thing with General Clark is that he is a 100% Nato propagandist..so be very careful before you believe anything he is saying.. Here is something General Clark will never tell which you may find intresting to read: 5 ways NATO PROVOKED the Ukraine War: 1. Nato expansion in east of Europe and now more and more along the Russian border. Expansion even if Russia said many time to Nato that they see the expansion as a very serious threat to national security of Russia. So by the expansion new nato members felt more secure while Russia for every new member felt the national security of Russia was more and more threaten. In that light. Not so hard so see that if you increase countries feeling of security in this way it can go very wrong if the same expansion are making a superpower feel its national security more and more threaten by every new Nato member that this development one day can lead to conflicts and a war like the one ongoing in Ukraine.. 2. US coup in Ukraine. USA plan and paid for the coup which removed the democratical elected and russian friendly Ukraine government not so many years before the war. 3. Nato governments/In Europe and USA participated in peace negotiations in Minsk and Istanbul with Ukraine and Russia just fooling Russia while sending a lot of Arms to Ukraine. 4. Ukraines governments sending representatives to Donbas to try to stop etnic russians from using russian language and living according to russian culture. This treatment lead to an uprising in Donbas by ethnic russians towards the Ukraine government whoch became a civil war which was ongoing many years before the present big war between Russia and Ukraine today in Ukraine. That the west/nato/us with close ties to Ukraine government did say to their alies in Kiev to stop this treatment was for sure very provoking for Russia. If west had said no the Ukraine goverment would have stopped the bad treatment of ethnic russia as the west otherwise could have stopped the big arm shipments to Ukraine. But the west did nothing. 5. The war declaration towards Russia by Nato representatives for Ukraine. Here it comes. NATO started to talk on western media about the possibility of Nato membership for Ukraine knowing very well that Russia saw Ukraine Nato membership as an existential threat to the National security of Russia. One thing Russia said to Nato representatives many times that they would never accept to be created. Nato knew with others words that a war in Ukraine soon would follow if they started to talk about Nato membership of Ukraine.. And started to talk anyway knowing ver well what would happen. I guess Nato/US wanted the war and the sanction which were a chances for them to turn the Russian public against Putin with big economical problems in Russia as a result of the war as it in best case for Nato, as nato hoped for, it would have resulted in the fall of Putins goverment and a west friendly government taking over the power of Russia. But it did not happen. Horrible that the Ukraine people had to suffer and die and get their country destroyed for this global power play move by Nato/US against Russia. .......................... If Nato had not expanded in the east and western governments had not started to talk about Nato membership of Ukraine and in that way respected Russia national security concerns we would not have the war in Ukraine. Just saying..

[@henriikkak2091]

But he's not a politician. There's a strange tendency to want to put experts in positions they do not belong to, thinking that their skills will transfer. They do not or, at least, there's a learning curve. This gentleman is a military expert and, from what I can gather, retired. That'll do.

[@christinamuzzu6414]

Finally, someone is taking accountability and saying it out loud. We are making horrid mistakes costing lives and encouraging our enemies. So needed. And also, we MUST stop thinking every instance of criticizing a country of some unwelcome aspect is unfair discrimination! This is not woke. This is blindness to reality. Fantastic conversation, but please, please get that heavy breathing under control!!! Change the microphone levels or do something - hearing that sound was making me climb the walls; I could barely hear the speaker and listened through clenched teeth.

[@mikearcher6568]

What a man with excellent insight and common sense, we need more men like him rock on

[@robertmiller2173]

Thanks so much for this programme, thanks Gen Clarke from New Zealand

[@rubenreyes4477]

Ukraine needs the $60b military aide from US in which is frozen and not delivered. The topic is if you want to win you have the complete arms to fight back. Not with talking and talk.

[@abupinhus]

With all due respect, you are misleading! Ukraine does not need 60b, which is even only half is for Ukraine. Ukraine needs weapons, and we have hundreds of rocket systems and over 4k tanks that we are in process of retiring! We had over 4 million claster shells as of start the war. Biden admin destroys these shell and now we have about 1 mil.And in same time Ukraine has shell hunger. Everything Biden admin did, it was to delay war, prevent Russia to lose war. If you really support Ukraine, than should request Biden admin to use existing authorization for 4b to arm Ukranians. There are 2 months pass that US stopped any new allocations of arms to Ukraine, even it has authorized funds!

[@mikael5938]

america never won a proxy war.

[@bigolboomerbelly4348]

That's because of politicians. Both sides are sitting on aid for the elections.

[@abupinhus]

@@bigolboomerbelly4348 White House has 4,4 bil already authorized for Ukraine. Why WH stop delivering weapons for 2 months? We have 3 mill artilery shells that we plan to destroy in few months. Why these shell were not delivered to Ukraine? All discussion about 60Bil is just to win political game in USA. White House do not want Ukraine to win, to be protectef from Russia. However, majority of americans want to help Ukraine, so administration have to give a little aid, drop by drop , to ensure they satisfy voter. We have WH who mismanaged this war. All this talk about 60 bil is just political talk.

[@user-el3rk6os3p]

Is this the same Wesley Clark who also made a speech about seven countries in five years, talking about US NATO plans after 9/11? If so, what does he expect Russia and China to respond with?

[@bigolboomerbelly4348]

What? Well the russians responded by agreeing to help the USA back then. They supported the Afghan and Iraq wars. Looki it up. What a weird comment.

[@user-el3rk6os3p]

@@bigolboomerbelly4348 I know they supported the Afghan wars but not sure about Iraq. Any sources?

[@Realist369]

Yes the very same

[@yarynkey]

General Clark is in a class of his own. What an insightful interview!

[@michelemarr76]

Thank you for speaking the truth!

[@jalundblad]

Brutally frank assessment. I hope there's a blue and yellow wave in 2024.

[@user-mx8kk4rd2e]

Probably won't happen! A waste of money!

[@olegalmaty4659]

An interesting psychology of the Anglo-gangster, the occupier and the neo-colonialist. The order is based on the gangster rules of the occupation of countries. Go home, jackals.

[@agungprasetyo2665]

Ukraine dont have any real manpower

[@jalundblad]

​@@agungprasetyo2665 44 million, the 500k people fighting are mostly old.

[@jalundblad]

On the russian side it's mostly minoritires.

[@williamblackwell2978]

Thanks for putting the truth out there General Clark. This nuclear deterrent conversation hasn’t changed since Ike. If Putler thought his nukes would allow him to win, he’d launch them.

[@mindbodyinstitute2652]

In the world of nukes you must take measures risks. Otherwise anyone with them can just do as they wish with others by just threatening their use. It’s a dangerous game but one we have to play. I would argue that measured risks are not stupid risks. All sides have to be careful and not always assume nuclear war is not a threat.

[@juliehudson-xk9rx]

When was this taken with Mr Clark is 7 days correct or was it another and it’s airing on this date

[@cuervoblanco71]

Спасибо за чёткий анализ ситуации. К сожалению как всегда не хватает дальновидности и политической воли политиков, а потом уже слишком поздно что то исправить.

[@vrkaster]

Truth is out. Thank you, general Clark.

[@aidasmatulaitis5175]

If thats the truth then idk what truth means for you

[@altuhego8575]

The protection of The International Rules Based Order, where one party makes the rules that dont apply to them but applies to everyone else, is responsible for the death of many Slavic sons. Hopefully peace prevails in this increasingly "imbalanced" world.

[@UAre_madness]

International laws where created with United Nations where all the countries signed to it.

[@W_Bin]

@@UAre_madnessAll countries in the world except Russia which never joined and is an impostor.

[@ernstschwaig4667]

Great description of the situation. Crystal clear analysis and knowledge how to deal with Russia is there, but the politicians constantly fall short of the necessary measures. It's a disgrace for the West.

[@MrOlegrom]

Very true about Ukraine and Russia

[@ph6560]

Brilliant and interesting analyses by the great gentleman, General Clark.

[@vaztome1]

one more cowboy general. Where are the Eisenhowers, Just Pattons remains? A perfect crazy man who never fight a real war

[@lesliewoinarowicz7018]

Do you speak English?

[@vaztome1]

@@lesliewoinarowicz7018yes

[@NeoZondix]

only at work@@lesliewoinarowicz7018

[@Zyzyx442]

38:00 thank you for bringing this up, Article 5 is just a piece of paper if we are not willing to retialiate apocalyptically to enforce it.

[@jamesgornall5731]

That's the sort of word that gives me nightmares

[@Zyzyx442]

@@jamesgornall5731 MAD the only way to win is not to play :)

[@mindbodyinstitute2652]

We and they have to act like we would. The ambiguity as Gen. Clark said must remain a factor. But let’s be honest use of nuclear weapons in a war with Russia (or vise versa for them) is unacceptable in any circumstance. The end of Humanity is not better than anything. Things can always change later and in other ways. There is always a chance to correct a geopolitical situation if we don’t end the world.

[@Zyzyx442]

@@mindbodyinstitute2652 Only if the other side agree with you, if not you have to give unlimited concessions to the party that is willing to end the world if they don't get it their way.

[@mindbodyinstitute2652]

@@Zyzyx442 No, have to know your enemy and make sure they know you. Risks are necessary in this dangerous game but we must know where they might and where they are clearly bluffing. They must do the same. Both sides have existential priorities and needs. Those cannot be threatened. Russia must know that attempting a military alliance with Mexico or Canada would be a redline for The US. Just like attacking a NATO member would be. For Russia Ukraine is Canada. They are relatively weak now And we are trying to force it down their throats but we have to be smart.

[@MattRios-jn1qx]

I'm recording it so I can study it later. Wesley Clark is an expert. Wise leader

[@iconoclast2679]

This interview demonstrates what is wrong with the world: the premise that the USA decides what happens in the world. Who put the USA in charge?

[@lulzimsadiku5351]

Clark is a great man and he is right

[@robopeteco]

He might be if he were advising negotiations.

[@edwardwaters3820]

Thank you for helping average people understand how important this is to our future. The world's future the future of freedom

[@freudefreud]

Finaly we have got some sane voices from the west here.

[@Aliux99]

This guy knows the busines

[@sergiomiranda1497]

The best Ukraine war analysis so far. The general is absolutely brilliant.

[@iruskas]

Thank you, General Clark, for this interview!

[@drreaganeliedithphd6526]

merci General

[@williambrown5966]

General Clarke. Great analysis. You should run for PRESIDENT. Why do Americans have a very old, forgetful man and a 5 Year old baby ?

[@robertharper3754]

The list is long for why we have such terrible politicians, but very close to the top of the list is how poorly educated the majority of us Americans truly are. Our education system has a problem with graduating students who have basic literacy, so when it comes to knowledge and understanding of history, let alone how our world works, too many people just don't know, and sadly way too many just don't care. When it comes to geopolitics, so many are truly ignorant on almost EVERY single international topic that truly effects the US as well as our allies, unless it is currently being promoted by whoever they listen to or what ever their political "leaders" are talking about.

[@mateoblanco285]

Gerrymandering. It leads to extremism.

[@johnm7267]

We have enough hawks in government

[@johnm7267]

​@@robertharper3754very unusual for an American to admit to anything that suggests they are not the best in everything. America is a very hubristic nation. I am English not, particularly well educated, but I am appalled at the ignorance of the majority of Americans in the comments section of the internet. They generally don't know how to discuss and their replies are usually aggressive one sentence insults if they disagree with some argument. I have found myself at the end of some foul mouthed invective for daring to suggest that America is not the best country in the world. Britain certainly isn't and most Brits would agree

[@GaneshGunaji]

Back when he ran for president, he had a totally different outlook and foreign policy, but it looks like those MSNBC and think tank paychecks are too good.

[@billsmith5593]

It's amazing so many retired generals have espoused these same points. But Austin and Mille who went to the same schools could not convince Biden to move forward

[@GaneshGunaji]

Milley told them to negotiate when Ukraine had momentum and the war had arrived at a stalemate, but everyone was high on their own supply and didn't listen.

[@artemkoval4584]

accurate assessment from mr. Clark

[@y2k541]

19:37 ...incredible work in Iraq and Afghanistan...🤔 and how did that end? No wonder Ukraine is where it is ...

[@joefarm2897]

These two are on crack...Ukraine has 500k KIA while Russia 100k....The USA...as usual...destroy any country they help or illegally occupy...

[@jeetsom9659]

It was very successful for defense contractors. They sell weapons ads of overwhelmingly force to make it seem like victory is assured through shock and awe. It would work if you could scare the opponent to surrender, but it usually doesn’t work when you’re on someone else’s home turf. It’s a great ad and they actually make more money if there is no decisive victory. So unless you’re ok with burning the dollar to feed this industry it’s very important to have a realist perspective like John Mearsheimer.

[@OptimistPrime_1]

No disclosure for all the boards this guy sits on ?

[@williampatterson8939]

fair enough comment, can you please disclose your interests. How many boards do you sit on and what have you done to be recognised as someone who can sit on a board apart from a wash board.

[@W_Bin]

@@williampatterson8939It doesn't sit on a board. It sits in a troll factory.

[@999ths]

Thank you

[@markwatkins100ify]

Ukraine will win. I am praying every day to Jesus for Ukraine Victory and it will come.🙏💪

[@reorioOrion]

A brilliant general whose order almost started the 3rd World War. Decent analyst.

[@meatpie29]

Handsome and smart guy hope the right people with authority hear him. Thank you for this.

[@Kannot2023]

Check what are connection of gen Clarke with Chevron

[@concretejungle9608]

Go to a ‘peaceful’ Ukrainian city and try to live there under daily and nightly North Korean/ Russian missile strikes and tell me how it feels you conspiracy pedaling troll

[@Ianskogberg]

I remember back in the 90s when General Clark was (briefly) being considered as a Democratic presidential candidate. What could have been...

[@urbansenicar81]

Who are you to "handle" Putin?

[@tomaridance]

Excellent and sobering discussion thank Gen. Clark .

[@lesliesheppard8256]

America and the west needs leaders like Wesley Clark . If Wesley Clark was at the helm before this conflict started with Russia, this war would of been over by now. He has the insight and expertise on what is needed to win this war.

[@GaneshGunaji]

We need the Wesley Clark from 2007 who would call out excessive militarism, not this new Wesley Clark who shills for the military industrial complex and hangs out on MSNBC.

[@nichje3850]

You think this west needs leaders like General Clark? I do not think so myself. Why not? Because it seem like Its very hard to find anything of what the "military expert" of General Clark is saying which are not 100% Nato propaganda.. I hope you listen to what both sides of this war are saying so you have a chance to get a more whole understand of what caused the war and what is really happens in the war in Ukraine today.. just listen to one side of the war which the general represents with other words the western/ukraine/US/nato perspective you get very stange picture of the war which is very far from the truth in this war.. Here is something you may find interesting to read which general Clark will never tell you: 5 ways NATO PROVOKED the Ukraine War: 1. Nato expansion in Eastern Europe and more and more along the Russian border. Expansion even if Russia said many time to Nato that they see the expansion as a very serious threat to national security of Russia. So by the expansion new nato members felt more secure while Russia for every new member felt the national security of Russia was more and more threaten. In that light. Not so hard so see that if you increase countries feeling of security in this way it can go very wrong if the same expansion are making a superpower feel its national security more and more threaten by every new Nato member that this development one day can lead to conflicts and a war like the one ongoing in Ukraine.. With other words. One superpower, USA, leading a military alliance which take in more and more member close and along another superpower, Russia, borders. Not hard to understand that an expansion of one superpowers military close another superpower could and lead to conflicts and in this case the Ukraine war. Just think how USA would have reacted if a russian military alliance in alternative universe would have started talking about accepting Mexico and Canada as members..US would in this alternative universe for sure had invaded these countries as Russia invaded Ukraine for the same reason to stop an existential threat to national security to arise.. 2. US coup in Ukraine. USA plan and paid for the coup which removed the democratical elected and russian friendly Ukraine government not so many years before the ongoing war of today in Ukraine. 3. Nato governments/In Europe and USA participated in peace negotiations in Minsk and Istanbul with Ukraine and Russia just fooling Russia while sending a lot of Arms to Ukraine. 4. Ukraines governments sending representatives to Donbas to try to stop etnic russians from using russian language and living according to russian culture. This treatment lead to an uprising in Donbas by ethnic russians towards the Ukraine government whoch became a civil war which was ongoing many years before the present big war between Russia and Ukraine today in Ukraine. That the west/nato/us with close ties to Ukraine government did say to their alies in Kiev to stop this treatment was for sure very provoking for Russia. If west had said no the Ukraine goverment would have stopped the bad treatment of ethnic russia as the west otherwise could have stopped the big arm shipments to Ukraine. But the west did nothing. 5. The war declaration towards Russia by Nato representatives for Ukraine. Here it comes. NATO started to talk on western media about the possibility of Nato membership for Ukraine knowing very well that Russia saw Ukraine Nato membership as an existential threat to the National security of Russia. One thing Russia said to Nato representatives many times that they would never accept to be created. Nato knew with others words that a war in Ukraine soon would follow if they started to talk about Nato membership of Ukraine.. And started to talk anyway knowing ver well what would happen. I guess Nato/US wanted the war and the sanction which were a chances for them to turn the Russian public against Putin with big economical problems in Russia as a result of the war as it in best case for Nato, as nato hoped for, it would have resulted in the fall of Putins goverment and a west friendly government taking over the power of Russia. But it did not happen. Horrible that the Ukraine people had to suffer and die and get their country destroyed for this global power play move by Nato/US against Russia. .......................... If Nato had not expanded in the east and western governments had not started to talk about Nato membership of Ukraine and in that way respected Russia national security concerns we would not have the war in Ukraine. And if Biden had said to Putin which called Biden a couple of times during the days before the war that Ukraine would never be Nato member we would never have the ongoing war in Ukraine today.. But Biden did not care about national security concerns of Russian. Biden only care about US national security concerns = created the Ukraine war. Just saying.. .....

[@user-cn5mx5to4x]

I was thinking the general for a simpleton, didn't expect straight out lies. Why are the Ukrainians suddenly short in men? It was because of phase 3 as he puts it. When Ukraine threw their soldiers into the Russian lines in their futile counter offensive. It was not the Russians.

[@janlang8605]

Splendid interview. It so sad 😞

[@MartaInesPuente]

General Clark is always great. Blessings

[@vaztome1]

Ukraine advance for 6 months against an enemy who has fortifications... 5 to 1 artillery advantage (at least).. They have air support in levels you don't have (if have any) You send a Storm shadow and recieve dozens of various types of missiles towards you... Your air defences are almost collapsed... And in THOSE situation you say that Ukraine made Russia suffer more casualties than them???... Really??? "Magical thinking" my friend...

[@Football-we4sm]

you clown, why russia not in Kiev if they have air superiority?

[@hmmm2564]

Exactly. This why this man lost wars on behalf of the USA

[@UAre_madness]

Just check open-source losses of equipment

[@FrontLinePub]

Great conversation 👌

[@joenunez8507]

The military was mostly to blame, not getting the president’s properly informed. At the time in the USA history we need a well informed president and public.

[@Ludicanti]

Excuse me. The access code. Please.

[@Adept893]

*waves hand 2:57 is the time stamp you are looking for

[@rosstisbury1626]

Putin not a Christian, that's rich coming from an American . .

[@gregorysmith7736]

Agreed! We did not try to deal with Putin, misreading him as a weak leader. He should have been more aware how we could have assisted their systems. America failed in so many ways!

[@garryetchells5501]

Hi Jake, I am an Australian living in Australia. I have been following your content since the beginning of the Ukraine war so I have great respect for your content. I watch your frustrations with Johnson, Trumps puppet but I believe we will get through this period but unfortunately at the cost to Ukraine. From Australia it is difficult for myself to fully understand the love for Trump. My limited understanding that the Trump masses are possibly made up of a lot of lower class people who may not be the most educated people. I can see the lies, why can't they?

[@alexvikendi1768]

It's not too late. The US must believe in itself, there are no redlines anymore.

[@manichaean1888]

No redlines? You obviously live in some very strong bunker in a middle of nowhere. Still, the nuclear fallout isn't a pleasant thing to cope with afterwards .

[@GaneshGunaji]

Of course there are red lines, like not blowing each other up.

[@NeoZondix]

@@manichaean1888 solution is simple. Putin shouldn't launch nukes

[@RodicaMihutArmando]

As a European citizen, I'm very ashamed of the US, I lost my trust in the US. After we helped the US for 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, we have heard from the US that Russia can do everything they want, that we Europeans have to help Ukraine, but not we have signed the Budapest Memorandum and destroy all the weapons of Ukraine, the US and UK signed that agreement. The US has turned the back on the European citizens and as alliance of NATO.

[@GordonJones-hm3kr]

As a European citizen, the whole of Europe failed Ukraine, I think the numbers are only about 7 countries that met their defense expenditure commitments to NATO, over the past 10 - 15 years. Europe should have been able to easily defeat Russia without the US help.

[@richardkey1678]

There are enough failures to go around, no one's hands are clean.

[@jennyfromtheblock.7153]

It’s actually embarrassing to see European leaders back peddling when Trump brings attention to the lack of preparation of European countries. We’re leaders really totally dependent on the U.S. for their entire existence. If so, have they been really treating the US this way? If I were totally dependent on someone then I wouldn’t be out there totally becoming dependent on Russia for energy and China for everything else. That’s scary…l believe in NATO but France wants “autonomy” to do what they want and doesn’t need the U.S…. So they must plan to go it alone or protect Europe themselves right? Or they are only concerned with their own interests and safety? The West… hopefully they have had a real discussion recently .

[@jackthompson6296]

Don’t be stupid. The US has not turned its back on NATO or Ukraine. Here’s an idea: go to Brussels and get the whole EU to stop trading and doing deals with Russia and China, and start importing everything you used to buy from Russia and China from American companies.

[@lesliewoinarowicz7018]

Would you like some cheese with your whine?

[@multilecful]

Bang on, i thought this for years.

[@secretarykilkennychoir7137]

I hope General Clarke gets heard by President Biden.

[@theH0UNDSofD00M]

Sounds to me that General Clark is frustrated with the latest crop of US presidents, independently of political colour.

[@inzhener2007]

Ukraine didn't need 200 F-16s and 400 ATACMS missiles in October 2022, 200 190mi ATACMS missiles then would be enough to cut all Z logistics forever and not allow the Russians to fortify and mine everything there.

[@casteretpollux]

Scratch your head and have a little think. " Why did they not do that " ?

[@godhallelujahgaming7947]

Making statements without even thinking at all, like a child. if that happened, Nuclear missiles would be flying everywhere😅, what an emotional idiot

[@NeoZondix]

@@casteretpollux for 2 years they cried about fear on nuclear confrontation. Some german ones keep saying that now

[@ouchh35]

interesting start to the conversation accusing putin of not being Christian. he's clearly eastern orthodox. so that means hes not moral? weird?

[@Kelgee3]

"didn't understand what he was doing in 2013-2014." Well he sure understood what the west and NATO was doing.

[@laurie9557]

I voted for General Clark when he ran for President. If he had won, he would have honored the Budapest Memorandum

[@edwardsuleymanov1589]

Not a Christian? How do American presidents fall into that scale?

[@hmmm2564]

Exactly, this hypocrisy

[@xXlegitx46Xx]

didn't wesley clark almost start ww3 at pristina airport.... lol

[@jking4444]

15.42: True. The US could provide so much more. 31 MBTs is a pitiful contribution given the amount of available, unused reserve stocks that are in long term storage. F16s, A-10s, ATACMS, more M2 Bradleys. The US leads the world in armaments but it's political leadership is nowhere near good enough.

[@FlorinAlexPopa]

Are you willing to face Russia handing over military support to future nations that will be victims of American incursions? Have you wondered what would have happened if Russia had supported Iraq, Afghanistan or Lybia? Here's a hint: Syria.

[@W_Bin]

The ONLY country they won't sell to is Ukraine. Funny, eh.

[@robmx2324]

They, the government has lied to the American people every time they want to go to war. This general is just another puppet of the bureaucracy. Yes we lost Vietnam, and Afghanistan. If we ever shut down our 800 plus military bases around the world. All these corrupt politicians we put into power will collapse.

[@robgrey6183]

Yeah, let's talk about all that right after they close the southern border and deport the tens of millions of illegals that have swarmed across.

[@bubbajim2863]

*"CLANGING BELLS AND CRASHING CYMBALS"...*

[@trqster]

Putin sees US presidents come and go and he's still there solod as a rock ...

[@marcosgonza]

This people are dellusional.

[@treo1135]

dellusional your profile picture is

[@albloshi2164]

Ukraine war has been explained by very respectful, brave American professor John marchmaire he was the only person who gives logic explanation.

[@robopeteco]

But they ignore comoletely any and all realists. 100% imperialist/neocolonislists. The Empire is going down, down, down.

[@drreaganeliedithphd6526]

Reagan a dit que EEUU est "ville luminaire sur la colline"