The Origins of the Antichrist

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

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[@baileymorton4116]

Any idea if it beats the Egyptian firewall? I study in Cairo

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

From my experience, yes. I lived in Cairo for 1.5 years.

[@username65585]

Can you please do a video about rapture?

[@infinitemonkey917]

Have you done a vid that covers circumcision ? Was it purely symbolic / religious or were there health reasons involved too ? I liked the video breaking down the origin of kosher foods.

[@williamoldaker5348]

How did the Snake in Eden come be seen as Satan over Lilith?

[@barkasz6066]

It seems to me like 80% of what people believe as ancient, unshakeable tenets of Christianity, are at best medieval fan fiction. The rest are older creations or borrowings and it all makes a beautiful literary tree where you can follow the evolution of literature, philosophy, mythology and the mixture of cultures step by step.

[@Tzimiskes3506]

Read the church fathers...

[@hispid1]

Yep - pretty much that's exactly the way it is. Christianity in its current form is fan fiction.

[@NimWithRandomNumbers]

It’s fascinating really. I’ve recently had the thought that the sliver of Christianity I grew up in is just a cosplay of what they believe early Christianity was like. They have their own head cannon, which differs slightly from other fans, but it’s close enough that you might recognize them at a con.

[@matthewblackwelder6487]

How much of modern popular Christian belief is something that comes out of Dante's Divine comedy or Milton's Paradise Lost?

[@robertallen4774]

@@matthewblackwelder6487 Both Milton and Dante reflected popular theology of their times. Milton is fairly Calvinist, Dante relies on Aquinas heavily

[@nokiaarabicringtone1418]

Calling a Romanian character "Nicolae Carpathia" is the same as calling an American character George Mississippi

[@MrCrazyeyes07]

I guess Ceaușescu was too hard for the American reader to pronounce

[@merrittanimation7721]

Sounds like a cowboy

[@NopeNothingD9]

Or John Appalachia 😂

[@Exiled.New.Yorker]

We would say George from Mississippi. Or, as in Saul of wherever it was

[@cmdugan6573]

Duncan Idaho

[@benjaminsteenhoek3842]

When I heard “spoilers ahead”, I thought you were about to warn spoilers for the Bible… I think those kind of spoilers are ok by now!

[@fluffysheap]

And really, aren't prophecies just spoilers for reality? Why doesn't God give proper spoiler warnings!

[@MaryamMaqdisi]

@@fluffysheap ROFL

[@sigmaoctantis1892]

@@fluffysheap I think prophecies are more like trailers for movies. You know, the ones that have scenes that don't even appear in the movie!

[@Gilamath.]

I dunno, I think a lot of fans haven't actually gone through the series

[@briandiehl9257]

Imagine if christians had to issue a spoiler warning anytime they wanted to talk about Jesus

[@balobillybomba]

Coming from a majoritarily muslim culture, I must add that the notion of Antichrist ("Al Masih Al Dajjal", literally the deceptive messiah) also figures in Islam and plays a big role in Muslim eschatology as well. It is not however found in the Quran (leaving room for a probable christian influence over time), mostly assigned to the prophet's sayings

[@maverick7291]

Because Islam would be considered antichrist from what was described in this video

[@thornepereira298]

Thank you for sharing!!!!

[@SandraG-e7f]

There are 3 different antichrists in the Quran..... One of them puts verses in Mohammad mouth to write them in Quran .... Satanic book

[@elghailanireda881]

He is not mentioned in the Quran by name but there more than a dozen Hadith where he is mentioned by name and we take those as revelation (It was mentioned in the words of God Almighty: “On the Day some of the signs of your Lord come, no soul will benefit from its faith.” Al-Tirmidhi narrated and authenticated it on the authority of Abu Hurayrah, may God be pleased with him, that he said: Three things, if they come out, no soul will benefit from its faith if it did not believe before: the Antichrist, the Beast, and the rising of the sun from the West.) And correctly as you stated the prophet Peace be upon him spoke more about the dajjal and gave many more details about his appearance (one eyed, crooked legs, the word "disbeliever" written on his forehead seen only by true believers, and also that he will go around the earth in 1 year 2 months and 2 weeks before the real messiah Jesus peace be upon him confronts him and kills him in his second coming. We ask Allah to protect us from the trial of the Antichrist. Amen

[@JustaguyIam24]

The picture he shows of antichrist makes me think of “hey little Jesus, lemme whisper in ya ear”

[@rubikscubeearf6218]

“Both of them will be circumcised” Well, there goes our only way of identifying good vs evil…

[@ЕвгенияЕвгениева-о3г]

😂

[@MissXMalice]

My question is… how will we know that? They just gonna… stand in front of us all… nekkid?

[@SlimbTheSlime]

at the very least, we can say people with foreskin aren't antichrist

[@harmony2369]

@@MissXMalice Might have been since it was at a period where criminals might be tried or punished nekkid

[@SuenteusPi]

I suppose if you named your daughter "Perdition" you didn't have high hopes for her, but finding out she got pregnant from eating a bad fish still sounds like a disappointment

[@jakeaurod]

I wonder how many girls tried that one with their parents. "It was bad fish, honest!"

[@mariosantos8445]

Looooooooooool

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

@@jakeaurod Apparently "God did it" works better

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

My ex named her daughter lilith. I mean it was my idea but i kinda expected shed rely on her own creativity lol

[@JohnSmith-ft2tw]

@@banquetoftheleviathan1404 I think the Jewish idea was that Lilith was God's only mistake. Which would be said jestingly to describe "forward" women. Straight up a story that lowly females shouldn't "be on top". (The whole smothering babies thing was just shock value to get the story repeated; nowadays, the movie industry wants at least an R rating or it's a flop.)

[@sock2828]

I actually grew up being taught by my Christian parents that "anti-christ" was a generic category. I always wondered where the whole individual supervillain thing came from.

[@pennypiper7382]

Sensible family😊👍

[@firefox6285]

Wow, they were ahead of the curve by a lot!

[@charleswu1485]

Marvel & DC

[@superhetoric]

can you elaborate?

[@thecrakp0t]

Propaganda probably

[@thegoldenfret123456]

i suppose the anti-christ is the friends we made along the way

[@madsm7422]

The but about Nero is blowing my mind. It makes so much sense in context cuz he was considered this evil Cesar that killed Christians for fun. Of course the writer would think him the antichrist

[@staytheknight]

I can see that being one layer of scripture, and to assert that is the only interpretation discounts the fact that the book of revelation has 2 characters that would arise in the end times. Along with the antichrist who is the beast from the sea there is also the beast from the earth as well. In the book they are described completely different from their origins to their description, and their characteristics.

[@marshroanoke]

I just want to say that I grew up in the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses which was a closed, high control religion. That means growing up I didn't know much about other religions let alone other Christian denominations. I was pretty surprised when you talked about how the "Left Behind" evangelical book series features the United Nations as the tool Satan/the Antichrist uses to achieve his goals. This is a big part of the end times theology of Jehovah's Witnesses. Growing up I thought that the organization's leadership had some "special divine insight" as Jehovah's channel. Now I am realizing that this view is not so special at all - apparently it's a common view of many evangelical Christians!

[@DianaCHewitt]

Most JW beliefs are semi common among evangelicals. JWs are just quietist and have unique math for calculating the dates of historical events which disagree heavily with common dating used by historians. JWs aren't as special as they portray themselves.

[@mattgml7638]

OK first of all i would understand if you denied Jesus Christ you dine Jehovah your a Apostate am i correct ???but at the same time Jehovah witnesses the organization will not let you Question but read what john has to say 1 john 4:1 test the spirit to know its true??so if you cant Question the spirit how can you find the truth??

[@stellamarina4123]

Wow.....I am starting to understand why so many Americans do not have much time for the UN. I could not figure it out, when the UN headquarters are in NYC. Coming originally from another country, we had much more respect for the UN.

[@mattgml7638]

@@stellamarina4123 its because its run by nazis??

[@mattgml7638]

@@DianaCHewitt there on the right track but made plenty of blunders but that's mankind for you do you make mistakes i do??

[@carlcarlington7317]

Growing up stories of the rapture and the antichrist as a specific character was taken for granted as something that was as canon as Adam and Eve. Too see how much of this was really just speculation is insanely fascinating

[@tankthomus]

Well said. The cultural context of the Bible is far removed from us modern readers so it makes sense why our modern interpretations miss the mark.

[@tommylakindasorta3068]

The story plays out like an ancient game of telephone. I can see why, since the idea of an antichrist as a Big Bad is way more compelling than the early description as being merely one among many nonbelievers.

[@areyoutheregoditsmedave]

the orthodox church teaches that antichrist simply means “in place of Christ”. there have been and are many antichrists and there will be a final antichrist at the end of time.

[@hatusnee]

When I was a child I was raised in an extremely evangelical environment and was taught almost everything at an extremely young age and as early as ten years old when anyone brought up the rapture I would spiral and have severe anxiety/panic attacks :)

[@hatusnee]

And since I knew people would judge me and say "but why are you scared when you're supposed to be a christian" I kept it completely to myself. So I suffered alone for years from 10 - 17.

[@LiquorWithJazz]

Sometime in my family just sent me a text about the rapture. I came back to rewatch this video because of it. Cheers, Dr. Andrew.

[@rad4924]

These videos are always so educational. This one taught me that there's a crappy Nicolas Cage movie out there that I still haven't seen yet.

[@sinnsage]

there are probably a ton!

[@StuartMason09]

Well if you plan on watching it, I'll pray for you. It may be literally the worst movie I've ever seen. It went beyond "so bad it's good" and crashed into "so bad that death is preferrable".

[@stellabee2026]

Nic Cage’s “i own the irs a ton of money and can’t really turn any job down” collection is vast, have fun finding them all!

[@stringtheories9820]

It’s even better if you listen to the God Awful Movies podcast

[@jonlee2553]

It truly is awful. As far as Nick Cage movies go though, I actually liked Lord of War.

[@Dr_Armstrong]

I grew up in a Dispensational home, and I had a Scofield Reference Bible at age 10. It was only after studying religion academically that I learned how much of my theology had come from recent trends. This vid presents great research.

[@jacobnestle3805]

As a kid, I read the Left Behind books and thought they were decent fiction (and loved that I was allowed to read them at 10, since that was way above my usual allotted content rating!). It was unsettling to later learn that a sizable portion of the adults I knew thought things were really going to happen that way.

[@altosack]

I would be curious to know what your parents (or whoever “allowed” you to read them) believed about them. I read a lot of things at a young age that were nonsense and not what my parents believed (those two were not always coincident, though I didn’t know it at the time!); however, they often didn’t know everything I was reading. Fortunately, they didn’t police me too closely, and (as far as I know!) nothing I read scarred me for life.

[@jacobnestle3805]

@@altosack My parents did a really good job letting me form my own opinions, so I don't know what they thought about the books when I first read them. They are very faithful Christians, so at minimum they weren't opposed to the Christian message at the heart of the series, but they're also not easily credulous; I'd be surprised if they took the series as Gospel.

[@Alam_Gutz]

it is curious how almost everything about modern apocalypse discourse comes from those novels. the way it is presented in the novels is how most churches think everything is supposedly going to happen

[@ismth]

Like as a story this would be entertaining I can see it being enjoyable like you said it’s crazy ppl thought it was legit

[@braxtongrundy4625]

Facts

[@80s_rockgod49]

I really enjoy watching this channel because it allows the viewer to listen to the history behind religion and scripture. People can make their own decisions on what they believe and it doesn't feel forced just Educational.

[@JarlJimbo]

My man at 2:39 caked up for real. lol Who's painting these big ole booties?

[@TrustworthyExpert]

got that peach! you probably forgot you wrote this comment

[@pesikimoana3270]

girl 😭😂😂

[@winterthemuteson]

Interesting. I was raised catholic so i grew up accustomed to the idea that sources outside of the bible could have scriptural levels of truth. Since evangelicals are the ones most concerned with the idea of the antichrist, how do they reconcile the majority of the antichrist ideas being outside of the bible with the protestant belief that the bible is the only source of scripture?

[@hope1575]

Most who believe in this character don't actually know the history of the Bible and Christian traditions or where the ideas really come from. They simply believe their pastors when they tell them it's all plainly there if you read it the right way (their way), and the ideas are reinforced by weird Christian media.

[@JakobNoone]

What Hope said. You'd be amazed at the things many evangelicals believe: God made the moon have millions of years of dust on it so it would SEEM like the moon was older than 7,000 years (the real amount of time since the Creation), or God buried dinosaur bones in the earth even though they didn't really exist, and more. Not all Protestants. I hope not even most evangelicals! But having attended many different denominations of evangelical-based churches for about ten years (after 25 of Catholicism)... there are some insane mental hoops they will jump thru to not have to have other than a literalist view of scripture. Even if the things they are ardently professing are extra-biblical in origin and/or distort the most obvious interpretation of the scriptures. It's frightening. OTOH, many are also quite scholarly and could give you an exegesis on Peter's eating habits, so... there ya go.

[@QuiteWellAdjusted]

Pointing out to my evangelical family that the doctrine of Biblical supremacy isn't in the Bible didn't go well

[@selloutsam.]

@@QuiteWellAdjusted I’m curious, did they defend the idea that it is? Or just have a negative reaction? I’ve never heard an argument for biblical supremacy, just its assertion.

[@varana]

They will present these ideas as coming from the bible. Like this video traced the various ideas forming a specific Antichrist figure: they will combine more or less unrelated passages and verses into a somewhat cohesive narrative, and since it makes sense (as that is the point of a narrative), that is presented as evidence that this specific combination/reading is revealing the truth. So while there is no direct connection between the term "antichrist" and the "son of perdition" passage in Thessalonians, combining the two may seem a logical step, because it results in a story and a character that sound convincing, leading you to believe that you have gained greater insight. In the end, that leads to what we have now - an Extended Universe of apocalyptic fanfic centred around supervillains like the Antichrist, where several key aspects are rooted in a specific interpretation of various biblical verses. That is usually enough to pass the "sola scriptura" test if presented by a person who people trust.

[@TradRaider]

So as a Catholic I feel that I can clarify. The Antichrist as referred to in the book of 1 John, is referring specifically to a group of heretical early Christians called the Docetists. The Docetists believe that Christ was not an actual human and only a spirit. Therefore the line “he who confesseth not that Christ came in the flesh is not human, but is that spirit of antichrist” is a dig at them from the actual church.

[@ThatKid22101]

I don't understand why it would matter whether he came as a spirit or as a human, he was still influential and had lessons to teach. Call me an antichrist but, everything we hear about Jesus is a third party account of who he was, what he said and how he lived. Judah spent just as much time with him as the other Apostles did, but the book of Judah paints a vividly and wildly strange story of how things happened, Jesus basically favored Judah out of the others due to his ability to cut ties to Jewish traditions, where as the other 11 apostles were unable to let go of the old ways. Judahs purpose was basically to help Jesus become a martyr, that Jesus wanted Judas to report him, the kiss on the cheek was in a sense a goodbye.

[@Altobrun]

@@ThatKid22101 it matters in the sense of the suffering and death Jesus endured to forgive the sins of humanity. If Jesus is entirely spiritual, could he have suffered, died, and resurrected? Early Christians said 'no', so claiming Jesus was entirely spiritual was intentionally downplaying the significance of his sacrifice, and thus heretical.

[@arferbargel]

@@ThatKid22101 This is actually one of the biggest controversies in early Christian theology (Christology and soteriology to be more specific). Adoptionism, Docetism, Apollinarism, Arianism, Nestorianism, Monophysitism, and Monothelitism were all doctrines that were eventually declared heretical by various ecumenical councils by the 7th century, in some cases causing permanent splits between branches of Christianity (e.g. after Chalcedon the Oriental Orthodox churches were no longer in communion with Rome).

[@Urfavigbo]

@@ThatKid22101 because it isn’t believed the book of Judas was actually written by Judas. There are a lot of work that claims to be written by an author though it wasn’t. That’s pseudographia. And whether he came as a human or spirit does matter as it helps understand his sacrifice on the cross. Anyways Jesus said that for the man who betrayed him, it would have been better if he was never born. Idk about you, but that’s definitely not favoritism. John being the one Jesus loves shows favoritism. Peter being given the keys and told to feed his flock shows favoritism not Judas. Also Jesus didn’t come to abolish the Jewish law which he stated in Matthew, he came to fulfill it. And Peter wasn’t “stuck” to the old ways. If that was so, he would never had visited Cornelius as he was not supposed to associate with gentiles according to Jewish law.

[@siriuspope3552]

So it's basically just the mainstream religion dunking on a smaller sect/denomination of belief. "You're not REAL Christians because you DON'T BELIEVE EXACTLY THE SAME THINGS I DO." I think that's hilariously telling

[@Alex_Barbosa]

Left Behind legit made a large part of my family paranoid and anxiety inducing. It also straight up traumatized me. I hate those books and movies. They've brought so much evil and xenophobia into the world.

[@jonhanson8925]

Yeah. I have complicated feelings about it. The books were fun as a kid but also traumatized me. I remember waking up one day unable to find my family and thinking they'd been raptured without me. And today I listen to my mother rail against the "evil globalists" at the UN and I hear Lehay's words coming out of her mouth as if they were gospel truth.

[@Alex_Barbosa]

@@jonhanson8925 that's the worst part of it. It'd be different if they were just neat thriller novels. But we were raised with them being touted as prophetical. That the events in the books were going to literally happen to us in the future and that it could happen at any time and we should be prepared for it. Most parents would tell their kids the monster under the bed isn't real. My entire family and community told us the antichrist was gonna line us up at a wall and shoot us in the head.

[@BatFan1]

When people cant tell the difference between reality and fiction that's when you have to question their sanity (no offense to your family) It's the same thing as Dan Brown's books. Interesting plot twists and intent in connecting dots, but they're works of fiction that some took as facts.

[@samwroblewski748]

@@BatFan1 the problem is that was Tim Lahay’s (sp?) actual theology. Jenkins was the writer of the story but had to base everything through Lahay’s work and interpretations. Basically it was spun as a novel take on what would actually happen. Plenty of Left Behind study guides came out along with the books. Long story short, deliberate fear mongering. But every “rapture” movement through Christian history has done the same thing.

[@newfreenayshaun6651]

@@BatFan1 Avatar....

[@darkstarr984]

I don’t know what I expected but it sure wasn’t “Miss Perdition gives birth because of a fish” and that is hilarious. Thank you for this video, it’s really helpful to understand things as a former Christian who once took searching for “The Antichrist” extremely seriously

[@frankwitte1022]

A bit of an e-mackarelled conception, isn't it.🐟

[@-Sceneshorts-]

Its a metaphor for the two fish of pisces

[@JJ-qx3cb]

@@frankwitte1022 Obviously aquaman has been busy?

[@jacobfschaffer]

Wow this is full of clarity. Love how he lays this truth all out there

[@SPscorevideos]

Regarding the Antichrist in literature, I'd like to mention "Lord of the World", an extraordinary 1907 proto-scifi novel by a nowadays almost forgotten priest author, Robert Hugh Benson. The book is extraordinary modern in its content, form and language, and it surely helped forming the idea of the coming of the Antichrist in the 20th century thelogical minds: both the current pope and his predecessor hold "Lord of the World" in high regard. I'm also quite positive that this "Left Behind" series is something very USA-centric, because here in Europe no one knows it, and we are not even familiar with the idea of the Rapture, considering it something restricted to American movies and series.

[@RepublicTrooper125]

I read about half the books and it does start in America, it actually goes to different parts of the world. Especially since a lot of End times prophecy’s take place in the Middle East.

[@SPscorevideos]

@@RepublicTrooper125 It's still a very American thing, even if the authors set it worldwide.

[@giovannicolpani3345]

I was scrolling for this comment. Since we have an evangelical take (left behind), a catholic take (lord of the world) let's add an orthodox take on the theme of the antichrist: "The Antichrist" by Solov'ëv, a short story that had more or less the same influence as "lord of the world" on certain russian circles, and a very well written story at that.

[@Alina_Schmidt]

Is it a US thing or is it a (US) christian fundamentalist thing? I don‘t really hear that idea from christian positions that aren‘t christian fundamentalist (or christian at all, but that‘s rather invisible in the US as far as I notice).

[@MrBrendanRizzo]

@@SPscorevideos Well, “Lord of the World” is extremely provincially British, so it balances out.

[@hel_9155]

Never clicked this fast lol

[@ILikeReadingTho]

hha, yeah.

[@patternsintheivey]

Devil made you do it

[@thegodofimagination]

@@patternsintheivey then Hail Satan because video is good

[@hel_9155]

@@patternsintheivey i must agree on tht 😂

[@Rosshimes1021670]

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[@logans.butler285]

Spoilers ahead: An interesting fact I noticed is that both in the Left Behind series and in The Omen franchise (both being about a future Antichrist who want to defeat Jesus) is that the Antichrist isn't a direct descendant from humanity. In Left Begind, Nicolae (the antiChrist) is artificially-genetically engineered and insmeninated to a satanist woman who made a deal with the devil, whereas in The Omen, the Antichrist is born of a jackal - and he's even revealed to be part human and part jackal, paralleling Jesus' supernatural birth. So there seems to be a common motif of making the antichrist be a person who doesn't come from the linage of Adam, but directly impregnated by Satan, as the absolute opposite of Jesus. Hence his title Antichrist.

[@nowhereman6019]

That's so stupid.

[@WorgenGrrl]

Don't forget "Rosemary's Baby".

[@sparklesparklesparkle6318]

@@nowhereman6019 Exactly he is a a fool. Everyone knows the antichrist will be an Irishman.

[@arnulfo267]

The Left Behind series and The Omen franchise are very creative biblical fanfics.

[@robiking011]

The Omen franchise popularized the idea that the Antichrist will be the son of the Devil. Even though the Bible never says that the Antichrist will be the son of the Devil. It's not something that dispensationalist theologians teach. Most of the stuff that people think they know about the Antichrist don't even come from the Bible. They come from movies and tv shows about the end times. The creative imagination of Hollywood screenwriters.

[@LukeVilent]

This is one of the most useful treatises I've heard. Being quite a devout Orthodox Christian for a while and having read all sorts of musings about the end of times in the Russian interpretation, I'd have smashed my face if I were facepalming over my own and people's uninformedness and wild flights of imagination in regards to the antichrist every time I felt like it while listening to this short lecture.

[@ian_b]

Physics: if the Christ and the Anti-Christ meet, they annihilate in a flash of energy.

[@samwill7259]

Unfortunatley, in relation to all of this fascinating historical and theological learning offered here is that the antichrist is often used as a term of pejorative mudslinging against any people that a certain kind of christian doesn't like. Don't do that. Treat your fellow people like people, even if you don't agree with them religiously or politically. The bible is not your ammunition to be a terror.

[@andybeans5790]

It seems that's how it was conceived originally, people who didn't agree with the author's ideas about Christianity

[@roshanantony64]

People always interpret the bible as per their own agenda, to the extent of even justifying war crimes. That's not gonna change anytime soon.

[@tompatterson1548]

@@jamesmac357 stole what?

[@tompatterson1548]

@@jamesmac357oh, money.

[@Episcopalianacolyte]

❤

[@WoollyLuke]

I was brought up to sincerely believe in the supervillain antichrist (btw, love that term!) and have only in my 30’s gotten to seriously questioning the historical & the spiritual validity of it. I deeply appreciate the research into these different factors, claims, & especially the tracing of the modern concepts’ development.

[@brewmanbrett]

If you're interested in a scholarly and honest exploration of these topics I just finished Chuck Missler's presentation on the book of Daniel. I think you will find this video quite lacking after watching Chuck. It's a 16 part series but this one deals with end times prophecy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKe5paRnoaZ-ebs

[@brewmanbrett]

@علئ ياسر I left a link to the video, or you can search Chuck Missler Daniel lecture 27 Daniel Session 14. He's obviously a believer, but you will find many interesting insights that the "scholars" usually don't mention.

[@brewmanbrett]

@علئ ياسر sorry bro but I’m not sure what you mean. I hope you give that video a chance. Astounding insights no matter what your belief. Cheers 👍🏽

[@tripsixentertainment9603]

Uh, it's Super Hero Villain the Antichrist 👑👑 actually 😂🤣 Hmmmmm🤔 Turn on the news... I made sure the world basically crumbled to my feet 😜 Jesus, Satan, God, humanity & Death DOOMED without the Antichrist 👑👑 MUHAHAMUHAHAHA Am I "the liar" "impostor" "wannabe Jesus";"blasphemous puppet of the invisible scapegoat named Satan" "Mr Fixmuch the Dreamboat"? Most definitely 😂🤣 Hey, I knew they wouldn't like my shirt, so I will make sure they can't say 💩 It's my economic system getting set up. Most people figured out that clue. I rise through the economies. Ad you see, even Jesus need the Antichrist👑👑 to save him & his gang members 😜 Some times the only hero you get, is the bad guy 😂🤣 I love that line😜 Anti Hero, actually. TRAPPED doing it 💯 You think I want everyone else's major growing problems on MY shoulders alone every day & night? This took years of sacrificing, studying, planning, thinking through major problems before setting up. Gee, I wonder why it will look easy to billions of people that didn't do anything, Waiting for ANYONE ELSE to make it easy 😳🤯😳😂🤣 The ignorant Christian & Catholic gangs NEED to blame their invisible scapegoat named Satan for 1 person's Awesomeness 😜 That's the "sore loser syndrome" at it's finest 💯😂🤣

[@tripsixentertainment9603]

@@brewmanbrett Chuck Missler was a very brilliant teacher. R.I.P. They have a 6 part video thing on the Antichrist 👑👑 His video is great, I was impressed.

[@DallasMay]

One thing that is funny to me to learn from many of your videos is how much evangelical Christianity in America relies on church tradition, a thing they mostly like to deny. Most evangellicals probably have no idea how their theology of the Anti-christ developed.

[@ahuv]

Andrew, this video was incredibly helpful to make sense of something I had subconsciously accepted as somehow true and scary, often the topic of nightmares. Breaking down of human fear throughout history has developed a fable really relativises a lot of things for me. Thank you

[@ZombieDragQueen]

5:38 Docetists be like: "I see what you did there. You're not particularly subtle, John."

[@xsuneaglex]

Thank you for this. End of time speculative theology has been used as a boogeyman against me ever since I was a kid and to hear it presented in this way helps me a lot

[@katipunanball4799]

Same here, it's kind of something that stays a constant fear of mine despite having left the faith loooong ago

[@xsuneaglex]

@@katipunanball4799 Sameee. Religious trauma is wild. The book "No Death No Fear" by Thich Nhat Hanh has helped me a whole lot, though. Sending love to you ❤️❤️

[@riffraftmusic8669]

In English, there is a term "bully pulpit". Although it means something else, the term came to mind when I read your comment. Having a similar experience (when I used to attend church or read the New Testament), I found a lot of help by learning Hebrew, and that parts of the New Testament may very well have been dictated in Hebrew, THEN translated into Greek (1st decades, A.D.)--so they weren't originally written in Greek. That explains (to me, at least) how a lot of simple grammatical errors turned into the philosophical hodgepodge that we now call theology. So, if I'm reading the New Testament, I usually back-translate the verses to Greek, but then the Greek to Hebrew. After learning Hebrew, and some Jewish culture, the New Testament often has a completely different meaning than what I thought growing up. Needless to say, Revelation is quite different, as is the concept of the "anti" Christ. I'm not Catholic, but they seem to have some pretty good resources. Regarding the Gospel of Matthew, a man named Papias (an early bishop, 60-130 AD), wrote, "So then Matthew wrote the oracles in the Hebrew language, and every one interpreted them as he was able." catholic-resources.org/Bible/Eusebius_Gospels.htm, second paragraph. It's amazing how few people seem to be aware of this. Checking the Greek, then learning the Hebrew takes a little time, and some work (any rabbi or even a Jewish friend can help), but is very rewarding. I thank G-d that I learned Hebrew.

[@xBINARYGODx]

@@riffraftmusic8669 You should find a way to get these facts and ideas based upon out there to many people. You may just be doing God's work when you do. (I was not being sarcastic, but also, I am an atheist)

[@riffraftmusic8669]

@@xBINARYGODx Thanks for the feedback! Yes, I'm quite sure there's an audience which would totally welcome what I call "information" which I think I have gleaned. Since I think of Nature as G-d (through what I would call "research"), I can't be an atheist, however, sympathizing with people who are frustrated by groups who appropriate others' literature, customs, beliefs, etc., for their own ends, I find the "atheist" camp usually quite thoughtful and refreshingly honest, perhaps more spiritual than the religious. Since there can never be a good reason to appropriate someone else's property, there's no way I can sympathize with the religious elite who are selfishly making fortunes from this stuff, is there?

[@ManahManah77]

I read the Left Behind series years ago. It was campy, full of cliches and biases about how evangelicals view outsiders, and the characters were the sanitized white bread representations of Christians like the ones in “God’s not dead”.

[@beyondthebracken]

Just wanted to add the Anti Christ also called the Dajjal (The Deceiver) exists in the Islamic Faith. During the end of times, it's said that Dajjal or the Anti Christ will try to lure everyone to evil that is until when Jesus returns (yes we also believe in the 2nd coming of Christ), the Dajjal will then flee in his presence. It's really interesting. Thanks for the video!

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

Sounds like I need to start writing a sequel!

[@beyondthebracken]

@@ReligionForBreakfast Yes please that would be amazing!!

[@liquidluck711]

@@ReligionForBreakfast would you consider taking an esoteric/Kabbalah look into christ consciousness and ego antichrist complex. Its what the elites throughout history follow. The script is coming to an end actually. Would be interesting to see you discuss that white rabbit hole...

[@srbrant5391]

The Dajjal is also the name of an alien race in my story.

[@literarylapsed]

I was about to comment the same thing. The study of eschatology and the end times is big in Islamic scholarship, and Dana’s is a big part of it

[@ChrisTempel]

First video of yours that I've seen. Well done! I really appreciate how you just stuck to the facts. I have a huge interest in eschatology as I'm finishing producing a trilogy of end times movies that reflect the historicist view. Anyway, I subed, going to check out some other vids on your channel now.

[@rd22.rd22]

Just wanted to say thanks for doing this video and not purposefully making Christians look bad. It was very informative and very well done

[@josefstekl497]

Love that you are using your normal voice❤️ Many other channels try to pull off that Attenborough bs and it annoys me to death.

[@wolfy8006]

This is like a collective novel series written through the last 2000 years.

[@AB-et6nj]

My fanfiction is superior to yours

[@josephanglada4785]

Oh like human rights

[@jonhanson8925]

Based on "The Bible," which was a collection of books written over 1,100 years, from the 10th century BC up to the first century AD.

[@signoguns8501]

That's pretty much exactly what it is, yeah lol.

[@signoguns8501]

@@josephanglada4785 Ironically, the rise of human rights coincided with the decline of religion. People didn't have many rights at all, if any, during the medieval era, an era when religion dominated absolutely everything. Human rights are a secular idea.

[@UltimaJC]

I used to love those books when I was a kid. Looking back they are the most unhinged and quite frankly disturbing things ever. The way evangelicals act like "oh yeah it's totally a good thing that the entire world is going to burn for not believing in my religion" is disturbing tbh

[@blackpatriot2681]

And it's disgusting too🤮

[@UltimaJC]

@@blackpatriot2681 Their lack of self awareness of just how psychotic they sound when they talk about wanting the rapture to happen knowing full well what their beliefs say is going to happen afterwards

[@blackpatriot2681]

@@UltimaJC which is?

[@druid139]

@@UltimaJC Just imagine how peaceful it will be when they are all gone! 🥳

[@joshmcgill4639]

That's why I don't like prodestents an actual fan fic

[@lorscarbonferrite6964]

One of the most interesting things about early christianity (at least IMO) is just how long people have been saying that the end times are just around the corner. The Roman empire's been dead from somewhere between 100 years exactly this November (assuming that the Ottoman Empire counts, which is a pretty big assumption), to ~1600 years (factoring in only the Western Roman Empire). Nothing much has happened so far.

[@TurrettiniPizza]

You made a significant oversight with respect to the definite article in 1Jn. 2:18. The Textus Receptus includes the definite article (ὁ ἀντίχριστος), whereas modern critical editions lack it. The TR reading is what most Christians in history have had, and so the idea of a singular antichrist distinct from the many antichrists present during John’s day was supported by that reading.

[@jmpattillo]

Those left behind books did a lot of damage.

[@mathewfinch]

All fundamentalist Christianity (especially the dominionist variety) have done tremendous damage to our society.

[@satie321]

Massive damage, it's as if these ideas have been seared into the minds of a huge chunk of evangelicals. Undoing the damage is tough and really slow.

[@ni2077]

Finding this channel has been the highlight of my day. I love learning more about these topics even though I myself, am not religious

[@arielroblesruiz9466]

You don't have to be religious I'm not I'm more spiritual than anything! So there is nothing wrong with not being religious love!💋❤️🥰😘💯

[@MichaelPremsrirat]

Absolutely fascinating. Always well researched and well discussed. Thank you so much for teaching me.

[@tausif6514]

There is no mention in this video about the verses of the Quran and the Hadeeth that contain information about the Antichrist

[@pennypiper7382]

@Johnny Baseball Cap I’ll remember that next time I eat fish😊

[@melissanewman3672]

You really think that's teaching why don't you read one of my comments humans

[@calebfielding6352]

Not that well researched. Christians say the beast of revelations is the anti christ (difference between an antichrist and the antichrist) the beast is mentioned 44 times in revelations, so he skipped the majority over 90% of what the Bible says on the subject, or at least if you are assuming believers in the tribulations are wrong, what pretribers think about the antichrist.

[@notforkliftcertified7884]

Can't believe I have to spend time as a adult undoing all the lies adults taught me as a child

[@Maxolotl124]

"the antichrist will be the son of perdition" Kid named Perdition: 😰

[@Lvestfold4143]

It's insane how literally this has been taken. This myth was extremely prevalent in 20th Century Christian America. Rock and metal bands were harassed about being "agents of the antichrist" with their music. Most notably AC/DC which Christian propaganda purposely mis-labeled the initials as standing for AntiChrist/Devil's Children when in reality it was just alternating current/direct current. They got harassed so much that their tour promoting their 1985 album "Fly on the Wall" had several date cancelations due to harassment and terroristic threats from Christian conservatives.

[@jeffbailey1546]

Not to mention KISS being the acronym Knights In Satan's Service. Iron Maiden and their album Number of the Beast didn't go well in church circles either.

[@Lvestfold4143]

@James Henry Smith 😂

[@Lvestfold4143]

@James Henry Smith "everyone that doesn't worship my god is an idol worshipper because I'm a religious supremacist that wants to destroy cultural diversity and mock other people's deities."

[@Lvestfold4143]

@James Henry Smith it’s a completely valid argument, that’s what people like you do.

[@besticudcumupwith202]

@@jeffbailey1546 ...I always laughed at that stuff. But look at "music" today. The demonic imagery has been growing since ac/dc & Kiss, etc. I love those older bands for their music, not the "look" they had. But now they're REALLY going full tilt with it. Some "artists" get very graphic. Plus the production levels today are much better, more realistic. They go wayyyyy beyond Gene wagging his 8 inch tongue with fake blood dripping of it. Now, we have Lizzo.

[@octaviosilva5808]

I never thought religious stuff can be this entertaining and interesting. Incredible video. Much, love 😊

[@tausif6514]

There is no mention in this video about the verses of the Quran and the Hadeeth that contain information about the Antichrist

[@AB-et6nj]

@@tausif6514 Probably because the Quran got it from Christian sources

[@tausif6514]

@@AB-et6nj have you read them?

[@Zombied77]

You'll like this series then probably its super interesting, religion as myths and psychology. It actually made me appreciate my religion more kzbin.info/www/bejne/nF7aiHV9pJuUaNk

[@inspiredaction162]

@@AB-et6nj lol do you know where the bible got most of it’s stories.. research research… ancient texts

[@NimWithRandomNumbers]

It’s Darby! I grew up in a Brethren church and until recently I never knew how much his theory of dispensationalism has shaped wider Evangelical thinking in the last two hundred years. I personally never read the Left Behind books. They came out when I was a teen but I had by then started reading about death cults and apocalyptic religions in religious class. I was fascinated by how cult leaders controlled their groups with fear. By that point I had rejected the Armageddon teachings of the Evangelical churches as a manipulation and wanted nothing to do with the Left Behind books. It’d be interesting to read them now as an atheist, if only to identify what influence they had on my generation.

[@robertcriswell5218]

Speaking as someone who really tried to read them: don't. I'm no stranger to bad writing and have made the slog through some real hot garbage, but by the second book I was skimming. By the fifth even that was a chore. The whole thing is legitimately awful from start to finish just on the writing quality alone. Other flaws, particularly the logical flaws, make those books a cultural black hole.

[@MusicalRaichu]

@@robertcriswell5218 My guess is that the books' aim was to make money by taking advantage of either people's fascination about the end of the world, or their fear if they got "left behind". Quantity made more money than quality.

[@MaryamMaqdisi]

@@MusicalRaichu Maybe the people behind the group never bothered to polish it, it takes a lot of work to make a long story into something believable as you need to make sure every character makes sense in every single scene, and that every scene leaves the reader with something. Most writers just don't bother to write good quality literature, unfortunately

[@jcfretts]

I grew up United Methodist, but in a former Evangelical Brethren church. That toxic Darbyism still managed to leak into my life, with old rapture charts like the one shown briefly here hanging long forgotten in the room where the children's choir practiced.

[@willbass2869]

Interesting. I never thought Brethren ventured into such "Johnny come lately" stuff (Darbyism). My experience with them was as rather stolid, very traditional country folk. Maybe a bit superstitious (using moon phase to plant and various 'folkways', espec home cures). I see Hollyweird even infected the back country

[@elvenkind6072]

This was more like a long historical explanation, instead of answering anything definite, and for that I'm glad, because I'm really tired of so-called scholars talking about Nero and 666, as if the question have already been answered in the ancient world.

[@RhiannonSenpai]

1:20 So in a super popular American novel series the author sh*ts on fellow Christians, not even Muslim, Hindus or Buddhist. As a Romanian I'm really surprised because Romania never attacked the US like Japan did in WWII or never fought against a war of independence like the British did. The author just chose my country because he deemed it insignificant enough, not having many friends internationally so no one would be upset other the Romanians themselves. That's such perfidious, sneaky, treacherous thing to do.

[@luxeford547]

Interesting. My sister had to read a book named 'Satan: An Introduction" as part of her curriculum. I asked if I could borrow it from her, because title, but she said it was boring AF.

[@anonvideo738]

That title sounds like an introduction to the satanists.

[@dlead9801]

This man does the best eyebrow raises while talking. Very interesting topic as well.

[@Scott.Jones608]

"fish-based medieval story" love it

[@JohanKylander]

16:11 16:11

[@Neomorphinity]

I love this content because it's incredibly enlightening. It does however, make me a little angry. Angry because I grew up in a staunchly protestant/pentecostal Christian household which included a VERY real Antichrist figure who was not only living with us at present, but also really about to take over the world, and the fear that came with it to be a GOOD Christian at all times and all the rest of it. The number of public figures that were put into the 'Likely to be the Antichrist' list is endless. The Left Behind stuff didn't help either (we were made to watch them in church). I'm well into my 30s now and some of these things are really hard to completely shake off because they informed a big part of my life. Having this kind of knowledge to helps a great deal in making sense of it all, so thank you.

[@macavelli8905]

During this time of transition your presentation is timely and well done..

[@welcometonebalia]

Thank you. By the way, in French, the common word used is "Antéchrist" instead of "Antichrist", there seems to have been at some point during medieval times a kind of interpolation of the original etymology (which indeed was "Antichrist"), as the prefix "anté-" meaning "before" could be understood as "the Antéchrist is the one who comes before Christ". Yet this interpretation seems wrong, and most people would still understand "against Christ" instead of "before Christ". This has often confused me. Well, I guess the French language has a number of oddities and etymology can lead to surprising stuff...

[@melissanewman3672]

Why don't you read one of my comments human

[@ryangallmeier6647]

That's actually pretty fascinating. I've never heard of that before. But I can totally see the confusion. Anytime I see "Ante-" I always think of "before". But when I see "Anti-" I think "against" or "in place of". The only reason I know "Ante-" means "before" is because of the writings of the "Ante-Nicene" fathers (those Christians who wrote before the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D.) I don't think there's any confusion in Koine Greek, though. Thanks for sharing that. *Soli Deo Gloria*

[@getdmw]

Ever considered it might be the other way round. Ante is correct, while anti is the corrupted form ? In other words Ante Christ originally simply referred to what was before christ, ie pagans.

[@bofbob1]

And the reverse occurred with “antichambre”. Go figure.

[@NedJeffery]

​@@getdmw technically you could call John the Baptist the antechrist.

[@Backwards_Buddha]

Something pretty interesting is that an older/alternate version of the original scriptures found in Papyrus 115 show “616” instead of “666” in revelations. “616” actually corresponds to an alternate spelling of Nero as “Neron”

[@NakedSageAstrology]

Perhaps a link to the artificial intelligence & it's use of Neural Networks mimicking Neurons. *Rorro Maesu Says Use A MirroR*

[@aaedreonguile1896]

True...

[@jamesharken]

lucifer = 115 in gematria

[@sonicboom2723]

No its 666 and its satan's number. It represents evil.

[@charlieblah]

For me, I don't think the word anti-christ can ever be separated from the voice of my parents angrily calling me it as a child - that is the only true meaning in Irish culture lolol

[@vexxshades2004]

As an esotericist and an esoteric Christian, I see so much of what many think of as literal as both literal and allegorical and it’s fascinating to watch religious scholar have a completely different take than me, but I go ‘yeah actually the antichrist is that way esoterically’ and then it makes me wonder

[@C4rrEternal]

I know they actually publish books and do research and what not, but it's weird seeing/hearing one of your college professors referenced. Fuller really is just a super intelligent guy.

[@RoyChamorro666]

Hello Andrew, I often want to show my family your videos but some of them don't understand English perfectly. I would love to give translated captions (in Spanish) for your vids

[@ReligionForBreakfast]

Hi Roy, thanks for the offer! Do you have Instagram or Twitter? You can DM me there, and we can figure something out.

[@martinmaynard141]

@@ReligionForBreakfast Don't have either at the moment but would love to collaborate on this - English as my first language. Spanish as my second. Post graduate work in religious history (Latin American saints and their European roots)

[@OGRH]

@@martinmaynard141 classy! Jump in on a response with irrelevance, but a glimmer of "on topic"... let me know how that works out for you! Someday you'll get the attention you deserve!

[@squishy1706]

I always love these informative and fun videos. As always thanks for your work!

[@ANDROLOMA]

Out of the 1001 things Christians mindlessly fear, they seem to fear this fictional character the most. Despite having had 2000 years of prior warnings that he was going to do this or that and face drastic consequences for such misdeeds.

[@hendersonbradshaw3098]

My complements on a clear, cogent, logically sequential discourse. I learned a lot. Thanks!

[@sofiatgarcia3970]

I was raised as an evangelical Christian and the Antichrist was a common theme in sermons. It was pretty scary for me as a kid, but thank God I'm now an atheist. Thanks for the insights into this interesting and common doctrine.

[@mrfarts5176]

Another atheist here. Glad you made it out.

[@sofiatgarcia3970]

@@mrfarts5176 Likewise my friend.

[@aquamarine13yt]

Thank who 🤨 (joking)

[@inspiredaction162]

Same

[@inspiredaction162]

@@aquamarine13yt ourselves

[@recreantjournals6723]

This was the most timely yet easy to digest material on this topic I've ever listened to . Thanks again man for your channel ! Helps a lot in understanding the origins and mindset behind religion.

[@recreantjournals6723]

@James Henry Smith yall and these fairytales. In the next issue of superman darkseid takes over the world since spouting nonsense 🙃

[@joelindsey2105]

@@recreantjournals6723 there is faith, there is atheism, agnosticism, and theory. Belief, non belief, not relevant, and not proven.

[@kevinmitchell6856]

​@@joelindsey2105you're just cryptic, what is your point ☝️

[@joelindsey2105]

@@kevinmitchell6856 faith-belief in a god Atheism- non belief in a god Agnosticism-god isn’t relevant Theory-not proven

[@kevinmitchell6856]

@@joelindsey2105 ok joe you took the bait, remember that "faith" is absence of evidence. Theory and evidence are of the highest level of proof, your religious background has failed you yet again 😭😭

[@UGNAvalon]

God: “I incarnated myself by impregnating a virgin woman. Top that!” Satan: “I incarnated myself by turning into a fish in a market, then impregnating the woman who ate me! HA!!”

[@morgothfromangband6082]

Morgoth: "... I just stay in Angband."

[@checkoffgames]

"Apostate" It's a word made by people to put down others for breaking their rules of who's allowed to exist and how. I _really_ wish educational youtubers would point that out, and in detail.

[@JeantheSecond]

I love how Christian fandom keeps evolving their canon through fan fiction.

[@HashbrownMashup]

I like how this stuff is couched in hypothetical language in a way both theistic and secular-thinking history appreciators can enjoy.

[@henrybruno8664]

Generally good. But given the fact that you're talking about origins, it might have been helpful to consider the wider context of Second Temple Literature, since according to some studies a conceptual development, as opposed to just usage of the term antichrist, seems to appear in terms of a tradition or traditions. The work of Mateusz Kusio in his *The Antichrist Tradition in Antiquity* is a very good resource on it.

[@stevearias8687]

Ah, the Biblical expanded universe. A marvelous work you've done. When a was a believer (almost twenty years ago) I studied the bible four times, and noticed many things, wondering about many doubts I had, which you beautifully explained. It's enlightening watching these videos

[@IRosamelia]

you read the bible four times?!?!? Oh my gosh, such a waste of time lol 😅

[@AB-et6nj]

@@IRosamelia Many believers don't even read it once

[@IRosamelia]

@@AB-et6nj of course! Religion isn't about deep thinking but about believing whatever. Reading the Bible was the first time I felt a "red flag" regarding my old faith.

[@stevearias8687]

@@IRosamelia well, I'm an avid reader. You see, the reason I read it so many times was because something was adding up. Yahweh is a total different character from the old testament, and Satan was basically non-existent until Jesus came up. The more I read it, the more I convinced myself that God didn't exist, that he was a social construction to create order through fear, ignorance and conformity

[@IRosamelia]

@@stevearias8687 you have unlearned well young padawan, the Force is strong within you

[@tigerljily]

The detail about the pickled fish conception of the antiChrist gave me the heartiest of laughs. Thank you so much.

[@jakeaurod]

Inorite. Who would name their daughter "Perdition."

[@onbearfeet]

@@jakeaurod Somebody who liked Shakespeare might name their daughter Perdita, which means "lost" and is etymologically connected to "perdition". It's an unpopular but not unknown name for girls, probably because of the influence of Shakespeare's plays. If Left Behind didn't seize the opportunity to have their antichrist's mom be named Perdita, I'll be even more disappointed with them than I currently am. Fun fact: the play in which Perdita appears, The Winter's Tale, contains the best Shakespearean stage direction: "Exit, pursued by a bear."

[@GTMejon]

Jorge Mario Bergoglio’s name adds up to 666 in ASCII format.

[@Baka_Komuso]

My longest KZbin channel subscription. ? Years. Thanks Matt.

[@brandondefalco8843]

“What are you doing, step-demon?”

[@TheFastestFireFly666]

Love your stuff man. Great to see how your presentation and storytelling have developed so much over the course of this channel!

[@TheFastestFireFly666]

@James Henry Smith I think you misunderstood my point.

[@arnulfo267]

No mention of the movie "The Omen" from 1976? That movie basically started the modern day fascination with the Antichrist.

[@TMBoren]

Has anyone noticed that the way the Antichrist is seen in the modern interpretation, means that when Christ is reincarnated, everyone will think he is the Antichrist?

[@ThoughtCollection]

The Antichrist is just a title and doesn’t only refer to satan, but we use the title Antichrist for Satan because he’s the one that leads anyone against Christ. We can see the development of the “Antichrist” figure (who isn’t called Antichrist but by other titles at times) can be fleshed out by the Old Testament and the visions of Daniel and other prophets. It’s not just a character made up in the New Testament but simply the term Antichrist that was created since we believe the fulfilment of the Judaic messiah to be completed.

[@jakeaurod]

A class of bad guy who becomes a villain with a full backstory? Boba Fett, you just described Boba Fett.

[@jonhanson8925]

Thank you so much for this video and all you do! As someone from a conservative Christian tradition where we took the Left Behind series as gospel, it's fascinating to see how these ideas we like to think of as "unchanging" have actually evolved in fascinating and telling ways over the past two thousand years. It's a shame that so much has been done to make one Christian turn on another. If only there was a greater acceptance for diversity from the beginning, I wonder what ancient traditions might have survived and offered alternatives for people who are drawn to Christ but don't feel like the most popular churches speak to their understanding.

[@RevShifty]

Some of those ancient traditions, even some early Christian ones, allowed much greater diversity in belief, both within their specific communities and the larger communities they lived in or were a part of. The free exchange of ancient city deities, traditions, and rituals shows this well IMO. But they were seen as a threat and therefore an enemy of other early Christian sects, and were quickly hunted to extinction, so I'm not sure if that proves your hypothesis or its reverse better. I would imagine humans have a much longer history of religious tolerance (in the broadest, most general sense) than the opposite, but I don't see that intolerance changing any time soon. Established organized religion is as much about power as anything else, and people don't generally like to relinquish power.

[@merrymachiavelli2041]

I mean, different variations of Christianity logically _cannot_ be simultaneously true. Either the Pope is divinely ordained or he isn't. Either the Rapture is foretold by the Bible or it isn't. Either the Trinity is a valid description of god or it isn't. Believing in one inherently means rejecting the others, which means you think that other people are incorrect in something that is generally very spiritually important to them. In that scenario, some amount of friction is inevitable. Honestly, I'm amazed that (in the 21st century at least) you don't see _more_ friction between sects, you probably would, if they didn't exist within secular (and mostly irreligious) states.

[@bofbob1]

I’ve often wondered if I would still be a Christian if the community I grew up had been more open. Sometimes you gotta to give a little slack or else the rope will just snap, which is what happened in my case. Oh well.

[@GioReyes]

Thank you for bringing us interesting videos about all religions!

[@jeanbherer-simard7189]

Never realized how much fan-fiction Irenaeus wrote, in the same breath as condemning other fan-fiction.

[@cathare4909]

My friend use to get so mad at me whenever the pastor would mention "the second coming" and I'd laugh. I still laugh 20 years later. They just say it so much 😂

[@gaviswayze9696]

Fascinating and brilliantly done video! I see you're already looking into a video about the Dajjal, which would be amazing. I don't know if you've already considered it, but a video on Christian (especially evangelical) dualism would also be a neat topic for a video, showing how despite the claim that Jesus/God is all-powerful, there's still a universal battle with the Devil/Satan that balances on the actions of humans and their souls. I would love to learn about the origins of this belief system and how/when it diverges from other Xian denominations' understandings of their god and the universe.

[@فتىالعرب-غ9غ]

Dajjal is the last king of Jews He is a superpower man And will be killed by Messiah

[@johanmalm8378]

A lot of that seems to have its origin in Zoroastrism.

[@gaviswayze9696]

@@johanmalm8378 Right, that's considered a very likely source for the broader dualism within Xianity as a whole. I'm talking more about the evolution of dualism as well as a look into the intensified dualism within evangelicalism. Unless there was a more recent revival of Zoroastrianism in the early USA that somehow got skipped in the history books, I'm not seeing any single influence on how this heightened battle-for-the-universe understanding came to be, and I'd love to see an insight into this resurrection of a more even dualism in modern-day churches (also, sorry if I seem snarky. I don't mean to be, I'm just tired)

[@danielmalinen6337]

Today the common popular conception is that the antichrist and Satan (thought to be the same being) come to Christianity directly from ancient Zoroastrianism, and therefore Judaism and the Old Testament don't include any Satan-like figure at all. The Zoroastrianism is a strongly dualistic religion in which the opposites of good (Ahura Mazda or Ormuzd) and evil (Ahriman or Angra Mainyu) are constantly fighting each other. And in Christianity, this duality of Zoroastrianism manifests itself as an enmity between the evil devil and the good deity (in Christianity this good deity is Jesus itself), who are equal rivals and gods. The media in particular likes this view and publishes articles about it every Easter so that the Zoroastrian roots of Christianity are not forgotten. However, no one denies the fact that Christianity originated among Judaism, but Christianity has many roots and origins.

[@fluffysheap]

Check out the Book of Job, in which Satan is a major character. Or the Serpent of Genesis (to be fair, not explicitly identified as Satan until Revelation, but had to have been understood as such, otherwise Revelation would have been written differently). But Satan was there in some form since the literal beginning.

[@Tzimiskes3506]

Christianity has 0 zoroastrian influence...

[@mugikuyu9403]

@@Tzimiskes3506 Satan is influenced by Zoroastrianism.

[@Tzimiskes3506]

@@mugikuyu9403 yeah hes influenced by everything evil...

[@jamieyoung9206]

I think Christianity directly came from the Essenes, Jesus was a Nazarene which were a sub branch of the Essenes

[@GroundbreakGames]

I highly suggest you look in to Rudolph Steiner's view on the anti-christ, as more of a way of thinking, than an actual person. He is quite a fascinating character who has a lot to say on the subject.

[@willprice8696]

Rudolph Steiner is from the occult

[@paigeu23]

He does say Ahriman will incarnate physically but that it's the ahrimanic impulse that enables that incarnation.

[@formulajuan6038]

This video is theological gold.

[@scottbisco6793]

I read that series in like fifth grade. I mean, I would give myself some credit since the book is probably more of an adult read, but also why did my parents let that happen? Craziness.

[@Dave_Sisson]

It's interesting that the last Roman emperor was Constantine XI, rather close to the Constans who was supposed to be the last emperor. But he lost the final battle with the Ottomans in 1453. Of course it's silly to say that the Ottomans (or anyone else) were the Pentecostalist idea of The Antichrist, but they did conform to the ancient definition of antichrist in that they did not recognise Jesus as the messiah, but as they were Muslims, only saw Jesus as a prophet.

[@mikaylamcfadden7866]

Good point! In their old definition they did fit the bill of not seeing him as the messiah and the predicted emperor is very similar

[@henkaistudio]

@@mikaylamcfadden7866 The Mormon Jesus is the AntiChrist/FalseChrist and he’s a polygamous and is the son of Elohim and he spoke to the Americans and preached to the Americans and started his church in the Americas as well as he did in Palestine.

[@perrymathis4557]

LOL , growing up as a baptist/pentecostal I remember we'd have all these movies like "A thief in the night" and classes on preparing for the rapture. I was always so afraid I'd be swept up and there'd be no one to take of my pets. Ahhh nothing like growing up in a cult. I look back on it now and laugh.

[@holbygrlNMN]

We had to play a "game" in Sunday school where we were going to have to leave the earth in a spaceship and we could take 8 of our family members. We had to write those names on 8 small scraps of paper. The spaceship takes off and after some time an emergency happens and everyone has to discard 1 family member. The spaceship takes off again and after some time another emergency happens and everyone has to discard another family member. And you had to keep going. Yeah. Sunday school

[@goldhawk81]

You always do a great job of presenting the facts without showing any personal bias, thank you.

[@iamnoone9041]

The fact that people still believe this stuff just blows my mind. My grandmother tried really hard to get me into this stuff when I was really young, and even then I didn't buy it. There's all those stories about impossible things happening, god revealing himself and talking to people, wrestling with one guy, angels all over the place, and then several thousand years goes by and not a damn peep from god, no angels coming down, no impossible events. That in and of itself made it obvious to me at like 7 years old that it was all a sham. It's crazy to me how people can believe any of it. In my view, it would be like believing in fairies or any other mythological beings that we also have no real evidence for.

[@joelindsey2105]

All there is, is testimony. My life was changed accepting Christ and a lot of other people too. I could share experiences I’ve had that are unexplainable, but some folks find a way to explain it in a way they understand. All I’m saying is I’m humble enough to say I don’t understand. that’s a big part of having faith.

[@PatrickScott-zk2ig]

Your the worst

[@iamnoone9041]

@@joelindsey2105 We either base our 'confidence' on reason (evident probabilities, past experience, competence, etc) or we base our beliefs on faith, which is blind by definition. Faith is the most dishonest position it is possible to have, because it is an assertion of stoic conviction that is assumed without reason and defended against all reason. If you have to believe it on faith, you have no reason to believe it at all. - AronRa

[@joelindsey2105]

@@iamnoone9041there are things that can’t be explained by reason, but reason always finds a way to explain them. This doesn’t make it true

[@iamnoone9041]

@@joelindsey2105 when there is evidence to go along with the explanation, yes it does make it true.