The Didache | Another Book That Almost Made It Into the Bible?

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@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast Ай бұрын
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@AnnoyingNewsletters
@AnnoyingNewsletters Ай бұрын
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@ekmalsukarno2302
@ekmalsukarno2302 Ай бұрын
Hi there, ReligionForBreakfast, can you please make a video on Balinese Hinduism and how it differs Hinduism in India. Thank you very much.
@Rope_Adope
@Rope_Adope Ай бұрын
@@AnnoyingNewslettersis that bad?
@Rope_Adope
@Rope_Adope Ай бұрын
Didache huh?
@Osoronnophris
@Osoronnophris Ай бұрын
seeing that there are some who, although having wings, rush upon the visible things, things that are far from the truth. For that which guides them, the fire, will give them an illusion of truth, and will shine on them with a perishable beauty, and it will imprison them in a dark sweetness and captivate them with fragrant pleasure. And it will blind them with insatiable lust and burn their souls and become for them like a stake stuck in their heart which they can never dislodge. And like a bit in the mouth, it leads them according to its own desire. And it has fettered them with its chains and bound all their limbs with the bitterness of the bondage of lust for those visible things that will decay and change and swerve by impulse. They have always been attracted downwards; as they are killed, they are assimilated to all the beasts of the perishable realm."
@LuisGomez-ft9pr
@LuisGomez-ft9pr Ай бұрын
i was in fact having breakfast while watching this video
@TheCagamerda
@TheCagamerda Ай бұрын
You had the most Holy Breakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast Ай бұрын
Breakfast for Breakfast
@Prodigi50
@Prodigi50 Ай бұрын
Religion for Breakfast with Breakfast.
@lilalexei01
@lilalexei01 Ай бұрын
Same.
@SlimShady-gs8pl
@SlimShady-gs8pl Ай бұрын
Shoutout to the west coasters. On my lunch break here on the east coast.
@Grenzfalle-kt5ev
@Grenzfalle-kt5ev Ай бұрын
"you can read it in 20 min" "nevermind, I'll summarize it for you" -17min video
@maxgregorycompositions6216
@maxgregorycompositions6216 Ай бұрын
Saved three minutes.
@C-Farsene_5
@C-Farsene_5 Ай бұрын
two minutes of which is a sponsorship so more accurately 15 min
@brendan6747
@brendan6747 Ай бұрын
My favorite part is how he didnt talk in the exact same tone the whole time
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 Ай бұрын
​@@brendan6747 well he's being clear
@pre-debutera6941
@pre-debutera6941 Ай бұрын
Eh, most of it is analysis.
@umang3227
@umang3227 Ай бұрын
I am from India and really got into western religions because of your channel. Your videos are always very informative.
@VoidHalo
@VoidHalo Ай бұрын
That is so cool. I'm on the other side of things. Being Canadian and living around Christianity all my life. Now, I am learning about Eastern religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Sikhism. Unfortunately, there aren't many resources locally, or even on the internet that goes very much in detail about any of these religions. Unless I read scripture like the Vedas or something. But that is difficult to understand. It is actually very common for people in the West to seek to learn about Eastern religions. For whatever personal reason they have. Whether curiosity, or they intend to find a new religion. Even The Beatles did it. Don't ever be discouraged from learning about anything new. I, for one, respect the hell out of anyone who takes it upon themselves to learn new things or works to improve themselves when nobody is forcing it on them. I believe we must always strive for self improvement, as no person is ever perfect. So, there's always something to work on.
@ipolygon1
@ipolygon1 Ай бұрын
Our religion sprung out of the levant. Don’t view it as simply a western religion. It is just as much the religion of Asians as it is Americans. Everyone is welcomed that’s the whole point.
@umang3227
@umang3227 Ай бұрын
@@VoidHalo You can't read the Vedas straight away. They are a collection of hymns that were supposed to be sung during rituals. If you wanna check out some of the philosophical stuff of Hinduism, you should read Upanishads. If you are really into stories like Biblical stories you should definitely read Mahabharata and Ramayana. They are very much like Iliad and Odyssey and would be an interesting read. And while you do that I will read my Bible :)
@BadgerOfTheSea
@BadgerOfTheSea Ай бұрын
So interesting to see it from the other side. A lot of westerners are obsessed with eastern religions
@andrewharper1609
@andrewharper1609 Ай бұрын
It's actually quite easy to get information on other religions if you know where to look: project Gutenberg has translated copies of the Quran and Rig Veda among other stuff.
@jackemmakem
@jackemmakem Ай бұрын
I have a copy of the Didache. It gets a lot of hype for such a small book but it's so old yet so familiar when it come to Christian beliefs
@jackemmakem
@jackemmakem Ай бұрын
@@robertwarner-ev7wp to be fair it is a very short book
@JeremyMacDonald1973
@JeremyMacDonald1973 Ай бұрын
@@robertwarner-ev7wp Presumably it could draw on a lot of per-Christian sources but it is pretty hard to be earlier then Paul. Jesus dies in and about AD 30 and we think the first of Paul's letters is around AD 40. My take is it might well be in parallel to Paul. We know Paul basically preached among the Gentiles while there was already a large (and after AD 70 rapidly growing) population of Apocalyptic Jews. As noted this is pretty Jewish text and could well have caught on more among early Jewish Christians. This would also help to explain its later rejection from the Bible.
@justiniand6a788
@justiniand6a788 Ай бұрын
​@@robertwarner-ev7wp, the Anaphora of Pseudo-Hippolytus written centuries later (Pre-Constantine) also has ambiguous language regarding the corporal nature of the Eucharist yet it's very clear from contemporary and previous writings that the Real Presence was believed by the time that anaphora was written so ambiguity in the prayer doesn't necessarily negate belief in the belief in the Real Presence. Also, within the Didache, the Eucharist is referred to as a sacrifice and specifically as the sacrifice prophesied in Malachi 1:11, a notion memorialists would reject and denounce as Popery.
@rumrunner8019
@rumrunner8019 Ай бұрын
It resembled classic Christian beliefs and practices, but it may as well be describing another religion when it comes to some modern sects. I would imagine the Christians who first read the Didache would run away terrified if they walked into a Pentecostal church and they wouldn't recognize it as "Christian" in any way, shape, or form.
@CountJeffula
@CountJeffula 23 күн бұрын
I use it to keep my slaves in line. I’m a model of God, after all.
@nathangibbons9492
@nathangibbons9492 Ай бұрын
Thank you! So happy we get two in one week
@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast Ай бұрын
Been a busy week in the Religion For Breakfast household. Another video coming next week too.
@jasonchahal5262
@jasonchahal5262 Ай бұрын
@@ReligionForBreakfast Oh wow bro is on a roll
@kightsun
@kightsun Ай бұрын
Almost? It's in mine. *Laughs in Oriental Orthodox*
@DANtheMANofSIPA
@DANtheMANofSIPA Ай бұрын
Do you guys have the Epistle of Barnabas or The Shepard of Hermes? Those arent in our EO Bible but those two plus the Apostolic Canons and Fathers and Didache are usually highly suggested readings.
@kightsun
@kightsun Ай бұрын
@@DANtheMANofSIPA we do not have a set canon (this is all technically true for EO and even Lutherans) each synod decides its own canon. The full Antilegomena is all works in church history ever found on a canon list of an Orthodox synod. Due to this the list is technically open ended, since new discoveries in extant texts could add to it. In short, yes, the Epistle of Barnabas is Deuterocanonical in the OO Church.
@henrimourant9855
@henrimourant9855 Ай бұрын
The text was lost though (although scholars knew about it through references that Church fathers made to it). Until, that is, 1873 when it was rediscovered. So I don't think it's part of any traditional Orthodox or Oriental Orthodox cannon unless they updated the cannon after 1883 (when it was first published after its rediscovery). My understanding is that Oriental Orthodox churches have the same new testament cannon as everyone else. It's the old testament where things differ.
@kightsun
@kightsun Ай бұрын
@@henrimourant9855 they have. The antilegomena includes works that have historically been in synodical canons which may no longer show up in modern lists from the same synod. For example the Armenian Synod historically used third Corinthians but it is no longer listed in any modern Orthodox synod list.
@feelin_fine
@feelin_fine Ай бұрын
This whole thread is fascinating!
@ctusiard9755
@ctusiard9755 Ай бұрын
Actually watching the video as I work, not even a break.
@michaelcamp6076
@michaelcamp6076 Ай бұрын
9:35 “the end could come at any…“ [KZbin ad break] “moment.” I lolled
@matthewmaguire7328
@matthewmaguire7328 Ай бұрын
Thank you for all you do! From a religious studies undergraduate!
@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast Ай бұрын
Good luck with the semester!
@justin12537
@justin12537 Ай бұрын
Stop learning fairy tales and become a classicist. Protect the sources. Dont try and fit them into a presupposition of religion
@Herobeans
@Herobeans Ай бұрын
​​@@justin12537What???
@Rako250
@Rako250 Ай бұрын
@@justin12537 bro stop talking
@thegenderfluidthing8660
@thegenderfluidthing8660 Ай бұрын
@justin12537 Thanks for destroying the classics. Sending hate from a religious Classicist🥰🥰
@Welshcobluver
@Welshcobluver Ай бұрын
I froze from shoveling food into my mouth when you said we were probably on lunch break.. you got me there😂
@ΙωάννηςΚήτος
@ΙωάννηςΚήτος Ай бұрын
Given the opportunity, in Greek we adopted the names of the week from the Hebrews, so our name for Monday is "The Second (day after the Sabbath) while our word for Friday is "Παρασκευή" which literally means "Preparation (for the Sabbath). So in the text of the Didache, it's not the"Second and the Fifth (day after the Sabbath)" in the Greek original, it's literally the respective names of the week , just a small detail of course
@samantarmaxammadsaciid5156
@samantarmaxammadsaciid5156 Ай бұрын
In the Qur’aan, there are only two days mentioned Sabt (Yawmu-sSabt = the Resting day; the seventh day. Corresponding to the seven Skies / Heavens < Sabᶜu Samaawaat) = Saturday, and Jumuᶜat (the sixth day. Corresponding to the six days creation in the Qur’aan; the Friday Prayer, as Yawmu-lJumuᶜat = the Gathered day) = Friday. Together Correspond to the the Duality of physical created. However, in the ᶜArabic language, from Sunday to Thursday are counted days: Yawmu-lAḥad = the first day, Yawmu-lİṯnayn = the second day, Yawmu-lArbiᶜaa’ = the fourth day, Yawmu-lḴamiis = the fifth day. These five Unnamed days (corresponding to the five İslaamic daily prayers) are within the Named two days, altogether = duality! Plurality within the dual, and the dual within the One, = İsm = Name, = Aadam! İsm = Name and Samaa’ = Sky, are part of the triliteral root-pattern S-M-W
@nikhtzatzi
@nikhtzatzi Ай бұрын
After Sunday *. Sunday is the first day, sabbath is 7th
@ΙωάννηςΚήτος
@ΙωάννηςΚήτος Ай бұрын
@@nikhtzatzi so Monday would be "The First Day after Sunday" wouldn't it?
@nikhtzatzi
@nikhtzatzi Ай бұрын
@@ΙωάννηςΚήτος Monday literally means "Second day" , meaning simply : 2nd day of the week. And indeed we use the hebrew week. Just changing the first day for "lord's day" cause of the ressurection.
@ΙωάννηςΚήτος
@ΙωάννηςΚήτος Ай бұрын
@@nikhtzatzi in this case then it is "Δευτέρα" as in the "Second Day of the week" not the "Second Day AFTER Sunday" (which is Tuesday), which is the intended purpose of the people who introduced into Greek the Hebrew convention I guess
@anthonyp3113
@anthonyp3113 Ай бұрын
Super slow Friday at work so this is a blessing! Thanks RFB!
@matthewmelson1780
@matthewmelson1780 Ай бұрын
As a Catholic the Didache is not part of the Bible but it is used as a foundational text explaining the historical proof of traditions in the Church.
@Desperate-Drive3423
@Desperate-Drive3423 Ай бұрын
misuse it to help spread your fals teachings you mean
@matthewmelson1780
@matthewmelson1780 Ай бұрын
@@Desperate-Drive3423 nice try satan
@BlewJ
@BlewJ Ай бұрын
What does you being Catholic have to do with the Didache's status as noncanonical?
@matthewmelson1780
@matthewmelson1780 Ай бұрын
@@Desperate-Drive3423 ok satan
@janploch5894
@janploch5894 Ай бұрын
@@BlewJ Different types of Christians consider different books canonical.
@shinygoldcar
@shinygoldcar Ай бұрын
I wrote an essay on the Didache for the final year of an undergraduate degree, so I enjoy seeing videos about it. You did not mention that much of the Didache is in Book VII of the Apostolic Constitutions. Anyway, it is a fascinating piece of work, showing Jewish Christians wrestling with how to teach and accept Gentile Christians into their fold. Thank you.
@redflags6583
@redflags6583 Ай бұрын
Jokes on you, I'm watching this as I'm about to go to bed! Religion for bedtime!
@asterlyons8564
@asterlyons8564 16 күн бұрын
Im having Religion for Dinner, alongside some penne i baked in a garlic cream sauce
@xaayer
@xaayer Ай бұрын
And yet my mom will still insist that the early Christians only worshiped on Saturday until the catholic church changed the rules.
@docsavage8640
@docsavage8640 Ай бұрын
Protestants make up lots of b.s. about the real Church
@LivingInTheKaliYogurt
@LivingInTheKaliYogurt Ай бұрын
Is she a 7th Day Adventist?
@xaayer
@xaayer Ай бұрын
@@LivingInTheKaliYogurt yep
@hartfartpoptart
@hartfartpoptart Ай бұрын
Ignatius clearly worshiped on Sunday.
@clearskybluewaters
@clearskybluewaters Ай бұрын
lol how do you know thats the earliest layer? it was added to over time
@Hiddensecret9
@Hiddensecret9 Ай бұрын
While not canonized, the Didache remains a valuable resource for understanding the foundations of Christian ethics and liturgical practices. Its teachings continue to inspire scholars, theologians, and believers seeking to connect with the roots of their faith.
@fanfoire
@fanfoire Ай бұрын
"Inside you are two wolves" - Jesus
@slipknot73745
@slipknot73745 Ай бұрын
I can't believe you called out my lunch break like that!
@thorpeaaron1110
@thorpeaaron1110 Ай бұрын
Another gem of an episode Dr. Henry keep it up.
@TrevorJC
@TrevorJC Ай бұрын
I did not know about this, so cool. Always new stuff to learn.
@Thelaretus
@Thelaretus Ай бұрын
In the Catholic Church, we revere the Didache as the first Catechism and a witness to Apostolic Tradition.
@andrewvaughan2911
@andrewvaughan2911 14 күн бұрын
Why is the apostolic authority not continued today?
@Thelaretus
@Thelaretus 13 күн бұрын
@@andrewvaughan2911 It is! Search for 'apostolic succession'.
@Miroslaw-rs8ip
@Miroslaw-rs8ip Ай бұрын
Good review, thanks for your video I appreciate it.
@Abelard4567
@Abelard4567 Ай бұрын
Glad you did this video - I find the Didache to be a fascinating text and very useful as a window into early church practices.
@Caldwell2020
@Caldwell2020 Ай бұрын
Really well put together!
@BillHimmel
@BillHimmel Ай бұрын
I'm an atheist, and I really enjoy these vids explaining the history of human belief!
@EarnestApostate
@EarnestApostate Ай бұрын
Definitely one of my favorites as well
@jd3jefferson556
@jd3jefferson556 Ай бұрын
Shocking how little the Catholic Church has changed since the first century
@lianagheorma92
@lianagheorma92 Ай бұрын
Same :)
@BillHimmel
@BillHimmel Ай бұрын
@@EarnestApostate :-)
@BillHimmel
@BillHimmel Ай бұрын
@@lianagheorma92 :-)
@JaimeNyx15
@JaimeNyx15 Ай бұрын
I'm curious what the difference was between magic and sorcery to the writers of the Didache. I'll need to look at how those are being translated, probably. UPDATE: the original Greek uses μαγεύσεις and φαρμακεύσεις, or roughly "mageia" and "pharmakeia". Those are pretty culturally specific terms, and Andrew has talked about them in previous videos, but my impression is the former is more to do with enchantments and glamour, while the latter is more about potions, drugs, etc
@DanzigDevilock
@DanzigDevilock Ай бұрын
Probably the same definition we use today. It was not that long ago.
@benjaminbrockway5998
@benjaminbrockway5998 Ай бұрын
​@@DanzigDevilock1800 years is a pretty long time.
@JaimeNyx15
@JaimeNyx15 Ай бұрын
@@benjaminbrockway5998 Maybe they've been around a while. Vampire detected?
@generallyuninterested4956
@generallyuninterested4956 Ай бұрын
It's a translation. It's probably not 100% able to translate to modern English.
@admiralmurat2777
@admiralmurat2777 Ай бұрын
I do know that there is substantial evidence that the term "pharmakeia" is associated directly with infanticide, which was a religious ritual done by priestesses in the Roman Empire. In fact, abortion was just as prolific in the Roman Empire per capita at specific periods as it is now in the USA. Christianity has always been anti-abortion, yet it was also a major institution for rescuing abandoned babies and essentially adopting just about anyone that others didn't desire.
@sjappiyah4071
@sjappiyah4071 6 күн бұрын
The Didache provides such a fascinating window into early Christian life.
@xUncleA123x
@xUncleA123x Ай бұрын
4:55 The Didache doesn't "insist". It literally says "...in living water. But if you have no living water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit." That is basically giving an ideal, but giving pretty much every exception for baptism. Doesn't matter if it's flowing or not, cold or warm, or dunked or poured.
@winnebagotrout1997
@winnebagotrout1997 Ай бұрын
He literally mentions the exceptions right after, did you not watch the full video?
@xUncleA123x
@xUncleA123x Ай бұрын
@@winnebagotrout1997 No, he mentions the exceptions right before and then contradicts himself saying it "insists on...". The exceptions show that it isn't insisting. It's giving an ideal and then basically every exception so that there isn't a barrier on getting baptized.
@CountJeffula
@CountJeffula 23 күн бұрын
So, enzyme grade pure water wouldn’t work. It’s not alive enough. Bring out the nasty church sink and gunk, folks. We need this water living!
@xUncleA123x
@xUncleA123x 23 күн бұрын
@@CountJeffula "Living water" is an idiom that comes from Hebrew into English for flowing water, which is why I said at the end of my comment "Doesn't matter if it's flowing or not..." So actually enzyme grade pure water would work because the Didache says "But if you have no living (flowing) water, baptize into other water" So your (anti-Christian?) critique doesn't work.
@CountJeffula
@CountJeffula 23 күн бұрын
@@xUncleA123x my critique is still valid because they had no idea how germs worked and just knew that flowing river water was safer than stagnant swamp water. Now, the Ganges flows, but I’m sure they wouldn’t want people using that water to baptize either. It’s just funny an all knowing, all present, all good God would allow such ignorance in His Bible and related texts.
@johntaylor9381
@johntaylor9381 Ай бұрын
Have you ever heard of Caodaism? It’s a monotheistic syncretic religion from Vietnam that has somewhere between 4-6 million members that I’ve only just learned about a few weeks ago. If you have time, I think I video discussing their history and beliefs would be fascinating.
@Artofdanieljoseph
@Artofdanieljoseph Ай бұрын
Absolutely fascinating thank you for your videos 🙏🏻
@clockworkgnome
@clockworkgnome Ай бұрын
In my Russo-American Eastern Orthodox catechism we used the Didache, The Shepherd of Hermas as well as _some_ Origen, and Tertullian (but it was made very clear that the latter two were, for the most part, heretics). I’m not a Christian anymore but learning about these texts inspired a love of Religious Studies and Early Christian Literature.
@mikeambs
@mikeambs Ай бұрын
This was fascinating 👏
@juliusnovachrono4370
@juliusnovachrono4370 Ай бұрын
I'm watching this whilst having dinner. Great content, Andrew.
@theheilious
@theheilious Ай бұрын
Thank you, Dr. Henry!
@progidy7
@progidy7 13 күн бұрын
"Whatchu know about rolling down in baptismal water, when your toes go numb you should not make it hotter." -Didache 3:16
@pnwmeditations
@pnwmeditations Ай бұрын
This is fascinating! Somehow I've never heard of this document
@nikok410
@nikok410 Ай бұрын
These forgotten historic books are so interesting, great video! btw at 10:11 you say "Northwest Africa", did you mean Northeast since you mentioned Coptic and Ethiopia?
@mattkaczmarek1152
@mattkaczmarek1152 Ай бұрын
Nope - Tertullian lived in Carthage, modern day Tunis.
@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast Ай бұрын
Ah yeah misspoke
@lareno04
@lareno04 26 күн бұрын
Great video! Thanks! 😊
@mastertoenail11
@mastertoenail11 Ай бұрын
Was just thinking I needed a good video on this thing, which I learned about a few days ago.
@airavanwa
@airavanwa Ай бұрын
I can't help but notice that fasting on Monday and Thursday is something that is commanded in Islam, not that it's compulsory like prayer for example, but it is encouraged since Mohamed used to fast on those two days. Is this just a coincidence? Or is there an actual reason for this?
@rontubman6953
@rontubman6953 Ай бұрын
Muhammad likely drew inspiration from the monotheists (both Jews and Christians) around him. This can be reflected, for example, by his initial command to pray facing Jerusalem
@wakelogger8357
@wakelogger8357 25 күн бұрын
@@rontubman6953 no. Prophet Muhammad didn’t draw any impression from others. He is the prophet of God. Jerusalem was our first Masjid.
@jonunciate7018
@jonunciate7018 Ай бұрын
The way of death: Don't advocate for the wealthy. That's all you need to know about why this text isn't cannon.😂
@shhhhhg
@shhhhhg Ай бұрын
Read Matthew 18:3…. Reevaluate your life choices, i can smell your bias against christians from 10 miles away
@sj6404
@sj6404 Ай бұрын
@@shhhhhg Bias against non-biblical "big church" is hardly anti-Christian bias. There was a big movement in that direction a half millenia ago, something called like the Reformation? You might want to check it out.
@shhhhhg
@shhhhhg Ай бұрын
@@sj6404 Non-biblical “big church” what do you even mean?
@jonunciate7018
@jonunciate7018 Ай бұрын
@shhhhhg I was actually referencing the conservative Christian tendencies to advocate for people like Trump, ignoring some pretty obvious stuff to push their political agenda... so my political bias and burnout on their blatant hypocrisy is showing, I guess? Also Matthew 18:3? You could have easily countered with Matthew 19:24 or 1 Timothy 6:10 or even the story surrounding Matthew 21:12. And many others besides that. Come on man!
@shhhhhg
@shhhhhg Ай бұрын
@@jonunciate7018 You know they say the same things about Kamala supporters right? Both sides have to stop acting like the opposite are the devil incarnate. These are images of God, they don’t “overlook” anything more than you overlook them. They are picking what they think is best, like you are picking what you think is best
@Unknown17
@Unknown17 14 күн бұрын
THANK YOU. Very helpful.
@VoidHalo
@VoidHalo Ай бұрын
I would love it if you did a video about the Nag Hamadi Library of Gnostic Gospels. Though, some of the books would almost need their own video.
@TurtleMarcus
@TurtleMarcus Ай бұрын
The channel Esoterica, with Dr. Justin Sledge, has done lots of videos on the specific books of the Nag Hammadi Library (both their histories and theologies), presented in a clear scholarly style. Worth checking out.
@TheRealBrook1968
@TheRealBrook1968 11 күн бұрын
Highly recommended by the Orthodox Church. Did not make it into the Canon because it did not pass the rigorous criteria for scripture.
@giordy9013
@giordy9013 Ай бұрын
Was looking for a didache video some days ago, glad you did this, the non canonical bibliography is just enormous and interesting
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 Ай бұрын
Remember kids, ALWAYS kick out your apostles on the third day!
@martian9035
@martian9035 Ай бұрын
I was in fact on my lunch break while watching this video
@brettkeeler8822
@brettkeeler8822 Ай бұрын
Guilty as charged: I enjoyed this video on my lunch break. Thanks for the summary.😉
@joncohen6059
@joncohen6059 Ай бұрын
How do I reconcile the two facts that the didache 4:11 calls for slaves to be obedient to their masters, and that some of the earliest Christians were slaves because it was empowering to them, in comparison to the Roman state religion?
@bizarrealtispinax2747
@bizarrealtispinax2747 Ай бұрын
It's answered in the epistles of Paul, where he told fellow Christians to never mistreat a slave but to love them and have them be part of their family. During that time, it was common to have servants (their conception of slaves was similar to our conception of workers like domestic or field workers), but as time went on, due to the equal treatment, slavery lost its power as a whole. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how I understand it.
@tangosmurfen2376
@tangosmurfen2376 Ай бұрын
The early Christians were hated by the Romans for their great evil which referred to the Christians considered slaves to be humans. Even worse: That God loved slaves. The pagans believed that slaves were slaves because the gods hated them. If slaves were humans loved by a God you could not justify cruelty and injustice done to slaves. That was what the pagans found evil.
@egonomics352
@egonomics352 Ай бұрын
Ernst Bloch addresses this. There is the Bible of the ruling class and the Bible of the oppressed fused into one book. There is an underground anti-theocratic movement in the Bible, however, it is obscured, consciously or unconsciously.
@ironickrempt
@ironickrempt Ай бұрын
@@tangosmurfen2376 The persecution of those outside pan-Mediterranean Hellenism was a bit more simple than that. The power of the state was justified through claims to divine ancestry, and the monotheistic faiths rejected those divinities. That's why there was an explosion of art with wealthy Roman officials depicting themselves as descendants of the apostles as soon as Christianity became the state religion.
@miguelatkinson
@miguelatkinson Ай бұрын
​@@bizarrealtispinax2747please stop trying to rewash what slaves to these people because domestic workers are not the same as slaves the difference being that one is payed one isn't owned as property one has constitutional rights slaves can be both domestic workers and more
@tuanphamanh4721
@tuanphamanh4721 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the excellent videos! Coming in from Vietnam.
@oliveblake8154
@oliveblake8154 Ай бұрын
I literally just finished listening to The Didache (audiobook version). Then I come to KZbin and see this video. Coincidence? 👀
@In_and_ouTs
@In_and_ouTs Ай бұрын
I’ve read and still reference The Didache when doing Bible lessons with my family. It’s a useful glimpse into the way some of the earliest Christians approached living in the faith. I make sure when reading from it, or any other text that’s not from Scripture, that I explain to my children that these texts are non canonical but can be useful tools to help us understand and live our faith.
@CorePathway
@CorePathway 11 күн бұрын
Proof that the Bible is a document of any by Man. “God” has nothing to do with it.
@AllanTidgwell
@AllanTidgwell 10 күн бұрын
It should be noted that hypocrite at the time this was written didn't mean what it means today The word hypocrite meant a performer. So any time you see this in the text it should be read as "a person who is performative in their actions" This is made explicit throughout Matthew 6. It's basically the original "don't virtue signal" Unfortunately people use the word differently now and the colloquial usage is conflated by those who preach the words without actually having understood what they mean... making such people precisely who the passages are criticizing. The irony is palpable
@fanman8102
@fanman8102 Ай бұрын
I recently started watching your videos and am really enjoying them. New subscriber. I was taught the reason this book didn’t make into the New Testament was because no one could prove who the author was. All the books in the New Testament were overwhelmingly agreed upon as originating from one of the original twelve or someone closely related to the original twelve, ie Luke and Paul. The agreed upon guidelines set by the council were pretty tight.
@fletcherjackson8594
@fletcherjackson8594 Ай бұрын
You keep me going as i apply to religious studies MA programs ❤️❤️❤️
@thegenderfluidthing8660
@thegenderfluidthing8660 Ай бұрын
Wish I was you right now, but happy right now in my archaeology of the ancient Mediterranean program! Oh religious studies, some day I will come for you.
@ccreel64
@ccreel64 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I was raised southern baptist and church history was rarely discussed, much less studied, in the 70s. I’d not heard of the didache until now.
@rameybutler-hm7nx
@rameybutler-hm7nx 15 күн бұрын
Go to a orthodox catholic church.
@derekbaker5016
@derekbaker5016 Ай бұрын
Two RFB vids in one week? Hell yeah
@johnrococo982
@johnrococo982 24 күн бұрын
American Non denominational “Churchs” need to read this.
@sdgsuperstar
@sdgsuperstar 21 күн бұрын
Today, the Didache remains a valuable window into early Christian practices and beliefs, offering insights into how the earliest communities interpreted and practiced Jesus’s teachings.
@vix8426
@vix8426 Ай бұрын
i’m actually watching while eating dinner but thank you for considering
@swansonnnn
@swansonnnn Ай бұрын
Watching while washing dishes
@Herbit-k4j
@Herbit-k4j Ай бұрын
Your ritual was removed due to a violation of our Community Guidelines.
@robertboucherjr
@robertboucherjr Ай бұрын
Undervalued comment 😂
@loganseawright1173
@loganseawright1173 19 күн бұрын
This deserves a Pulitzer Prize
@liamferguson4145
@liamferguson4145 Ай бұрын
Who up breaking their fast rn
@makeytgreatagain6256
@makeytgreatagain6256 Ай бұрын
Orthodox still continue the fasts. I fast every Friday and Wednesday our church hasn’t changed since these times I’m glad to know
@CaribouDataScience
@CaribouDataScience Ай бұрын
Jesus also talks about two ways, a narrow gate and a wide gate.
@nulno
@nulno 9 күн бұрын
Beautiful 🎉we love father God One and Father Christ
@jasonmorello1374
@jasonmorello1374 Ай бұрын
one thing to note, that version from the 1100s in latin mentions a sunday service, which would be about the only direct case of that being mentioned in scripture, but due to the copy by hand, the sunday change many talk about may have changed the text from the clergy. Most of the groups that would have used it were former jewish ones in the first century, so easily would have only said "sabbath", but the days of week in such a document would have made clear if this changed. For this, it seems to me that though a complete text, this latter piece has been copied by those in the clergy, so may have made the change as naturally as breathing, not because they wanted to make change, but because it needed to line up with what they did know.
@Kris12qw
@Kris12qw Ай бұрын
Looking forward to the AMA!
@GeraldM_inNC
@GeraldM_inNC Ай бұрын
The question of why books did or didn't get accepted into the canon can't be addressed without understanding that the books that were used by Christians of Jewish ancestry were little known by the Gentile churches. The Gentiles churches grew slowly but steadily, even during persecutions; the Jewish-Christian churches never had much of a congregation and eventually the congregations declined. After the first century here was little contact between Gentile churches and Jewish-Christians, and consequently the Gentiles were unfamiliar with the Jewish-Christian writings. It is not surprising that some Jewish-Christian texts of early date did not make it into the canon; rather, it is surprising that any of them made it in. James and Jude just barely made it in; the Gospel of the Hebrews did not. Scholarship on the Jewish-Christian churches is in its infancy, and much is still unresolved or highly controversial. I am among those who believe that the Gospel of the Hebrews was the earliest gospel, that canonical Matthew is a revision and translation of it for use by the Gentile churches, and that the heretical Gospel of the Ebionites, a.k.a. the Gospel of the Hebrews, was a much later work. These opinions are super-controversial.
@elizabethhannah4332
@elizabethhannah4332 Ай бұрын
How’d you know I’d be watching this on my lunch break
@TheImmortalArt
@TheImmortalArt Ай бұрын
Very cool video. Thank you. Question: will you ever cover the medieval shismatic churches and their beliefs? Cathars, Patarens, Bosnian Church, Bogomils?
@TurtleMarcus
@TurtleMarcus Ай бұрын
The channel Esoterica, with Dr. Justin Sledge, have excellent videos on the Cathars and other heretical (mostly Gnostic) groups, in much the same style as this. Worth checking out.
@state_song_xprt
@state_song_xprt Ай бұрын
Can you recommend a good online translation of the Didache?
@ernestpresents
@ernestpresents Ай бұрын
why does "do not remove your hand" suggest god wants violence to be committed to children? would it not make more sense that the "hand' like the rod is one of guidance? jesus did tell us to protect those weaker than ourselves, amazing how many authoritarians demand the use of force. we know how the state behaves, what would jesus do?
@davieboy3814
@davieboy3814 15 күн бұрын
This is a fascinating window into the early church.
@U_N_Owen
@U_N_Owen Ай бұрын
Even that far back you can see the teachings of the person who founds a new school discarded the instant they’re gone and replaced with the same old superstition, ritual baloney, strict liturgical calendars, top-down authority, and “we’re the special chosen ones and everyone else is subhuman.” Man, it was really scary having to meditate and love everybody for a few years there… thank goodness he’s gone and we can go back to bickering about which diets and fasts make you holy, what kind of nether-region habits make God angry, and what kind of water bath magicks you into being a good person.
@randaabdulla9468
@randaabdulla9468 20 күн бұрын
Thank you so much, a religious studies student ❤
@Jimbobmoonshiner
@Jimbobmoonshiner Ай бұрын
Could you recommend a good book on early Christianity that is well-founded scholarship?
@ANDROLOMA
@ANDROLOMA Ай бұрын
I recommend Bart Ehrman, vigorously. "Religion For Breakfast" has had Dr. Ehrman on his show at least once before. Dr. Ehrman's books have helped teach me, and I love learning the truth behind such fictional fabrications as Christianity.
@Snommelp
@Snommelp 29 күн бұрын
What's interesting to me is that, as you were reading samples from the text, it seemed as though every modern Christian would be able to find something about which they would say "this is clearly and obviously direct from God" and something else about which they would say "this is clearly and obviously heretical"
@frankwitte1022
@frankwitte1022 Ай бұрын
Great video and so interesting! Perhaps you have already covered it, or perhaps you consider it unsuitable for your channel ... but I would be very curious to hear your take on the "Heliand".
@christianschulz1443
@christianschulz1443 Ай бұрын
The conflict between travelling and settled church authorities is very interisting to me. If you look at the apostels it seems clear they established some kind of tradition for traveling christian/church actors, while with the spread of christianity settled authorities probably tried to consolidate their power. For me this text is a curious piece of ecidence for such a conflict and im left wo wonder how the christian church might have turned out if the more traveling tradition won in the end.
@foundingfarther
@foundingfarther Ай бұрын
1:05 poop break
@colemantrebor1610
@colemantrebor1610 Ай бұрын
Same bro
@nobodyatall4002
@nobodyatall4002 Ай бұрын
You get it
@JACKSHMACK101
@JACKSHMACK101 27 күн бұрын
9 days later these words still ring true
@proto-geek248
@proto-geek248 15 күн бұрын
Way to respect.
@carolynsilvers9999
@carolynsilvers9999 Ай бұрын
Sounds like there was an issue with bums passing as prophets to get a free ride… they are still around begging for money on TV
@ANDROLOMA
@ANDROLOMA Ай бұрын
Jack Van Impe for example, until his demise.
@AncientAccounts
@AncientAccounts Ай бұрын
We making it outta the bible with this one 🗣🗣‼‼🔥
@lionflame21
@lionflame21 Ай бұрын
Most likely why it did not make the cut was it is seen more of like the cathecism documents that we have now than scriptural.
@gerdjak
@gerdjak Ай бұрын
I missed a comment on one of the most disconcerting aspects of the didache: that the eucharistic prayer doesn't mention Jesus' death and resurrection: it celebrates life and knowledge given by Jesus, and the communion of the church as wheat is collected into a bread. Is it possible that some branches of early Christianity didn't emphasize Jesus' death and resurrection?
@aemiliadelroba4022
@aemiliadelroba4022 Ай бұрын
This is a small manual on how to b a good Christian. also some guidelines on building the church and hierarchy in new Christian faith growing , 😊
@aifos5171
@aifos5171 Ай бұрын
Sweet! We just talked about this at universiry :)
@bucketboy00
@bucketboy00 Ай бұрын
Love your work! What version of the didaice did you use for this video?
@YoelFievelBenAvram
@YoelFievelBenAvram Ай бұрын
Monday and Thursday fasting is not only present in the mishnaic tradition. The rambam codifies this pattern of fasting during droughts in the mishneh torah circa 1180 CE.
@tylerjornov
@tylerjornov Ай бұрын
I find it interesting that it wasn’t included in part due to its nature as a more instructional text. Given how modern Christians tend to use the canonical scriptures it would make more sense to flip that rationale around.
@granolabean1
@granolabean1 Ай бұрын
Reading Enoch while Eating pumpkin bread at this moment. Love the Hillel qoute which is pre new testament. Also reading his teaching. Short attention span, dyslexic, gifted, bipolar I am. The Jewish Apocalyptic writing also waiting for the End Messiah. Some pretty dark. An educated guess is still a guess which is a feeling and not logic.
@Miaphysite3
@Miaphysite3 Ай бұрын
It is part of our 81 canonical books.
@gregoryfenn1462
@gregoryfenn1462 Ай бұрын
Who's?
@Miaphysite3
@Miaphysite3 Ай бұрын
@@gregoryfenn1462 the Ge’ez rite of the Oriental Orthodoxy (Eritrean and Ethiopian Churches).
@danfsteeple
@danfsteeple Ай бұрын
@@gregoryfenn1462 Monophysites
@randallpayne9320
@randallpayne9320 Ай бұрын
Do you recommend an English version of this? Been looking for a reliable one
@Akhgy
@Akhgy Ай бұрын
@@randallpayne9320there is No official Translation of The Language by the Church. - all others shouldn’t be considered reliable, the Church is not in no hurry, so it may not be in your life time.
@vitorbarbosa8598
@vitorbarbosa8598 Ай бұрын
5:58 it's interesting that in Portuguese, we say it exactly as in the Didache version!
@mihail6446
@mihail6446 Ай бұрын
I was having dinner..in Australia watching this video. Great video. I'm Christian I like the instructions in how to worship behave etc on the didache. Wonder if they'll cannoooze this if more evidence arizes. ove this.
@kennethanderson8770
@kennethanderson8770 Ай бұрын
Considering most likely luke/acts was written before the second temple destruction and the rest of the gospels were earlier the book in this video was not the earliest text.
@KingoftheJuice18
@KingoftheJuice18 Ай бұрын
It's the "too Jewish" thing. How can you make a Pauline case against "works of law" when clearly some early Christians understood that being religious means actually doing religious deeds?
@jr2904
@jr2904 Ай бұрын
You don't understand what Paul was actually saying then
@KingoftheJuice18
@KingoftheJuice18 Ай бұрын
@@jr2904 Please enlighten me.
@shhhhhg
@shhhhhg Ай бұрын
@@KingoftheJuice18 Yeah Paul believed works were important, just read Romans 6 Paul’s whole “works of the law” is about Jewish torah (notice the “of the law” part) The didache doesn’t command to keep the torah
@KingoftheJuice18
@KingoftheJuice18 Ай бұрын
@@shhhhhg I get the distinction between so-called "works of the law" (otherwise know as God's holy commandments), and some idea of deeds of love, but doesn't the Didache talk about ritual actions that Christians must perform? How is that fundamentally different from keeping actions the Torah commands?
@shhhhhg
@shhhhhg Ай бұрын
@@KingoftheJuice18 You mean Baptism and the Eucharist? Paul also talks about them and does them himself, in 1 Corinthians 10 (around verse 30) he talks about the Eucharist in passing relating to another thing. The Didache is just providing the instruction for how to perform these acts, something Paul doesn’t do, Paul assumes everyone he’s writing to knows about them already. What’s the difference between Baptism and the Eucharist (Christian Sacraments) and Jewish Torah ? It isn’t legalistic, the didache allows for multiple methods to do baptism, it simply prefers one method. And also obviously no kosher law and no ritual sacrifice to either celebrate the actions of Yahweh or as a sin offering Jesus’s Paul’s and the gospel authors ultimate criticism of the pharisees is their legalistic interpretation (Like when the pharisees get mad he heals in a sabbath ) Sacraments are about uniting with God and experiencing his grace, the youtube channel “Harmony” has a youtube video called “The Mystery of the Orthodox Church” (and “This word is the true purpose of human life”) which are parts of a book written by Eastern Orthodox containing what we believe about sacraments (and many other things) in video format, watch it to learn about Orthodox Christianity I assume you are from america or a nation like it, where protestantism is popular and the sacraments don’t matter (for example baptism is just a symbol), but all other forms of Jesus worship (Orthodox, Nestorian, etc.) they are central.
@thoryon8819
@thoryon8819 Ай бұрын
He caught me mouth full of pizza when he called me out for being on my lunch break 😂
@myguitardidyermom212
@myguitardidyermom212 Ай бұрын
>way of death... >advocating for the wealthy I vote bringing this one back
@ElkoJohn
@ElkoJohn Ай бұрын
Thanks! Excellent video. Could be this document sheds light on the jewish-jesus-messianic branch of religion under James the Just in Jerusalem.
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