Reloading 12GA with (Pyrodex) Black Powder in the Field

[@TheGrayman1234]

Maybe Dave is getting us ready for a time when we can't afford to buy shells. A big jar of black powder, some BB's and an old tshirt don't cost that much.

[@TheWillvis]

This guy doesn't nearly get enough recognition. Even though I saw his picture on a Slingshot at big 5 sporting goods. It's still not enough. He taught me that any man can shoot Anything. With all of these kids Wrapped up in the COD Era of firearms. All of these broccoli headed little children Could never understand or appreciate this kind of knowledge

[@neolexington]

Love these firearm videos Dave, in specific situations the firearm could be a critical piece of a survival gear. Hoping to see more of these types of videos!

[@0352USMC1408SAPD]

Thats amazing...you just brought new life to my HR single shot 12 gauge....

[@mikesanford11]

No worries. He is using Pyrodex. This is a synthetic black powder that doesn't explode. In fact its not classed as an explosive like black powder. The synthetics have a coating over each grain, and they are classed as propellants, since they dont have the risk of heat or static electric flash over. They are also non-corrosive. I cant recall anyone here still using actual BP around here. been like that for 20 years here or so. Hot wax is no danger for synthetics.

[@antondahl8945]

Fascinating Dave thanks. I've often pondered making such shells.I've done lots of black powder shooting and shotshell reloading. I also enjoyed the survival shows you used to do. That shell you made would be perfectly legal and adequate on waterfowl as well.

[@unbalancedredneck5778]

You can leave off the top wad and mix wax with the shot and make a wax slug to use on game up to deer size in a pinch.

[@markkilburn112]

Very good video. I have an old Belgian SxS with laminated barrels. I made two "test loads" with cut down 2-3/4 shells and Pyrodex. Regular plastic wad, #7-1/2 lead shot and 40 grains of Pyrodex. Covered the top with liquid beeswax. Worked fine. Thank you for the great videos!!

[@PastorJC]

Awesome! Also love the cross hanging off the neck. God bless you brother.

[@MrGanja408]

if you have 3 different color shells, you can load and be able to color code small, med, large game rounds. just an idea i got watching your vid =)

[@ivanivanovich6489]

LOVE the Video Mr. Canterbury, incredibly useful to me as my bush gun is an old Iver Johnson/Schattuck Side-Snap 12G that's over 136 years old at this point, going on rough estimates from production dates. I used to use Brass MAGTECH shells before I move, but I can't find them anymore, I'm just going to use this method from now on! I even have a ton of BBs leftover from my pellet gun days as a kid! Hopefully, one day, I can make it down for some classes. My current goal is to save up enough to buy a piece of land up here out in the Canadian Wilderness that I can build a small log cabin on as a retreat for times off work or just whenever I need away from things!

[@earljaydillard]

Way to go Dave. Your long hunter series is one great idea!!! I LOVE IT!!!!!

[@hatfieldmccoy0311]

Looking at the comnents from 11 years ago, it is amazing how much people didn't consider the situation our country is in now.

[@MiniSquatch785]

The nice thing about this is that in a SHTF situation there wil be plenty of spet shotgun shells lying around.

[@Woodenarrows]

Dave, these last few videos with the 12 gauge H&R have been very interesting. Thanks

[@bruceprosser8332]

I would suggest both, but what you can afford it probably the best answer. The single shot is the simplest with few moving parts. If I was in a wilderness situation like he is talking about I would want the simplest. Great question.

[@metzelplex]

Dave I liked both of your black powder 12 Ga. shotgun videos some times I'll find shotgun brass laying around in the dirt that has been stepped on and the plastic is smashed and I always think what a waste but now I realize I can just cut of the plastic and tap the base back till it's round again by using a piece of dowel or a round branch and a guy is back in business thanks for the video bro.

[@TheGrayman1234]

Starting to get into this now. Bought a beat up 12 ga modified H&R just to start doing this. I have had positive results so far.

[@GodschildinNC]

Dave, I like the way that you did that. You should be able to close the top of the plastic case with a little work, and then seal that shut with the wax. You could loop your string around the magnet and back through itself instead of having to retie it all the time. Geoff

[@svernwarunos546]

2011 the good old days.

[@lmomechtech7709]

Great video and fine job. Never thought of using shot shells over in this way. Definitely interested in trying this method out.

[@HBC258]

This is good "need to know" infromation, thanks Dave. I have a question, you used the BP Equivelant, can the real BP be used safely?

[@flamedrag18]

@MrGattor33 you can, it's the exact same thing. you use 209 shotgun primers in these newer primer muzzleloaders, it's what they were designed to use.

[@Deusmecumest]

thank you for clarifying and expanding. I I may say so u´re the best channel on the web. I thank you and wranglestar for pointing you out to me.

[@ra777wow]

I tryed this and it works real well.Also he suggested getting a box of the brass shot shells to reload and they last for a long time !

[@rdmercer2451]

Thanks for taking the time and effort to put out great content like this... in a TEOTWAWKI situation, knowing basic survival skills like these is critical.😊 maybe life saving

[@hanbaal]

Yes! Black powder guns. I so want to get into those. I think we might be allowed to get a license for them here in Australia.

[@buffalo1a1]

Dave, you have really inspired me,you make me think of a modern day Nessmuk. thank you So about doing this for 20 ga. ....

[@wpageabc]

So nice Video David. Like the simple black powder with a mix of 1 oz of both shot and powder. Cloth or cardboard dividers cool. Field dressing the best. Well done!

[@BIG-DIPPER-56]

Pretty Cool - Thanks ! 😎👍

[@LadyTSurvival]

Just finally got all the components gathered up to do this. Powder was the toughest to find but I have some now. QUESTION CAN I USE A REGULAR CANDLE,or does it have to be beeswax

[@Reservoirdogs617]

@xdeloach primers use mercury fulminate which reacts explosively when struck, its very difficult and somewhat expensive to synthesize in your own home, none the less very dangerous. I would just recommend buying a bunch and storing them.

[@TheMongo1357]

OUTSTANDING VIDEO Dave!! Great follow-up as well. I wasn't sure this could be accomplished safely, but you proved it could!! Thanks again ~

[@williamcollins2232]

Great video Dave! Thanks for being you Brother!

[@DisturbedPrepper]

12 gauge,my weapon of choice.Now i'm gonna get a single shot and try this.."reloading"....Thanks for the info...

[@80spodcastchannel]

Dave...awesome as usual...just one thing. PYRODEX isnt a true black powder, what you got there is a SEMI SMOKELESS, and the best parts of BOTH powder types. lower power level so safe for shotguns and pistols, but here's the cool part. you can ALSO find loadings for 45 LONG COLT, and 45 ACP, since both were loaded to black powder pressure levels. Cannot wait until You and Cody tear it up again, even my wife loves your series. HOO AH, and keep your powder dry brother... Seeya Dude

[@mdingess]

Dave I do all my own reloading . Just FYI if you use the same gun that it was fired from this will work. But if you have a shell from a diff gun then more than likely have to be resized. Your reloading info will work for single shot and pump shotguns that the shell was fired from, for semi and double barrel best if you resize the fired case may not fit.

[@houseoffire72]

@CivilianSheepdog I use -325 mesh aluminium for that, seems to ignite alot faster and it makes great flash.

[@PatriotNC1]

Dave, try a Pyrodex load for shotgun using 74.7 grain, which is the equal to approx 109.2 Goex FFg black powder. Thanks for your patience with me. - C.J.

[@knarlygnivesandoutdoors8034]

Hey Dave in your experience how many times can you reload the same shell? Or is it indefinite as long as it doesn’t get damaged? Thank you so much for all your work

[@lindoncurtis]

Dave i think your videos are really great. alot of info. For the black powder in the shotgun was great. I like that one. One hint from a friend of mine the old timers in Kentucky used hornets nest for the wad.

[@houseoffire72]

@CivilianSheepdog It's easy to make high quality black powder too, here is a 100g batch... 75g potassium nitate(salt peter) 15g charcoal(made from willow or pine even works well) and 10g sulfur... I make alot of own for my fireworks. It's a good skill to learn for bushcrafting,survival and WTSHF. Many uses for it, start fire's, charcoal can be used if a toxic plant is injested, camp security(trip lines boom) and its cheap to make...

[@paultrimble9390]

Hello Dave happy holidays to u and urs.

[@TheGrayman1234]

I am blaming this video for the 209 primers, powder measure and pyrodex I just bought. LOL Awesome vid Dave. Keep it up brother.

[@BrockLowell]

Another great and timeless video!

[@chuckHart70]

Great vid, the lighter makes me nervous with the pryodex! :-)

[@13thvarebel16]

Awesome! Great instruction, thank you for taking the time to show us!

[@jdhenry6300]

I know this is an old video Dave. But its very interesting. I've probably watched it a dozen times. I to load 12 gauge shells like that with pyrodex. Its simple and fun. Along with shot loads, I also load a 69 caliber round ball round. I load them with 80 grains of powder, and over shot wad, and a felt wad, then take ball and use patch around ball just like in muzzle loaders to keep tight in bore, then wax the top. That load is quite surprising as far as power goes, and recoil in a light single shot. Thanks for a great video.

[@38ragingbull]

great vid Dave ,i also enjoyed the other vid on this subject.when you were taking out the forearm screw on the other vid i thought of welding a wing nut to the screw.just an idea.thanks for all you do.happy thanksgiving to you and your family

[@LoveMyCountry24]

Hey Dave, have you considered cutting down a old shell at 100 grains to use as a measure or a spare measure? It'd help keep the bbs from clogging up. Great video btw.

[@PatriotNC1]

Weight to Volume Equivalent Weights- ( Conversions ) Goex - 100 gr FFg - APP FFg - 85.0 777 FFg - 73.3 Pinnacle FFg - 88.0 Pinnacle FFFg - 85.0 Pyrodex RS - 68.4

[@bushwp11]

Keep up the Longhunter Series! This education is priceless for the common man...thanks for all you do!

[@BlltPrffAsssn]

@1973Saved not sure on a 12 guage but on black traditonal black powder barrels copper is completely usable but since its harder than lead it sometimes leaves copper scrapings or smearing inside the barrel which can be a pain to clean out and can affect accuracy of rifled barrels, they do have copper cased sabots for muzzleloaders but theres a spit concensess on use, half the people are for it n half are against it.

[@TheJlbrown]

Thanks for sharing Dave. I recently looked at a reloader and money money and more. This seems to sum up a poor boys method to doing it right. THanks again!

[@tdegazio]

man i LOVE this series

[@jasonpettit9984]

THE WIZARD OF THE WOODS, THANKS DAVE FOR ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND TIME

[@oldmanpatriot1490]

its worth noting for anyone who reloads shotgun shells..... They can only be reloaded a few times.. 3 or 4 depending on the shell.... you will know when its not safe any longer... the shell will look it

[@HawkEye9644]

That's awesome! I'm gonna use a double barrel for that reason. thank you for sharing the knowledge!

[@blogobre]

Some 'survival only' suggestions Primers - refill with strike anywhere match heads, or scrap off the strike area and heads of normal matches mixing the two. You can push it into the cap or wet with water and make a paste to put into the cap. It's a good idea to flatten the cap. Powder - can use standard match heads for powder. Shot - stones, glass, metal fragments can be used. As mentioned before, these are for survival only, use at your own risk.

[@Panzerzimmerpflanze]

Good video - well thought out, simple, well explained. My only thing to mention would be that true black powder is corrosive, and pyrodex doubly so. More than a few people out there don't know that, and don't know how to clean it out of their guns properly. Perhaps you mentioned it on the muzzle loader video, but I didn't notice it in this one.

[@williamstewart8449]

Could you use this technique on a 10 gauge side by side made in 1888 if the gun is in shootable condition? I picked up a J.N. Scotts with hammers just because it looks cool. Figured what the heck and try to make it shootable with the right black powder load. I'm all ears.....

[@zhagray]

@gander2000 really depends in the shell, if you use light loads the the shell does not wear you can reload an infinite amount of times, as long as there are no crackes or splits you should be fine

[@houseoffire72]

@wildernessoutfitters Dave, have you ever tried to make your own BP? Good skill to learn:)

[@1LRLRG]

Neat idea, how much powder did you use or how would you guestimate a quantity, I have an old Model 37 that I would like to try this with. Do you know if the brass shells used in cowboy action shooting would work just the same? Thanks

[@CEO4207575]

Thanks Dave 😁. Very informative brother 👍. I will be trying this out.

[@Shannon_Lacey]

Dave, I like your simple reloading kit. I have a Lee Loader Deluxe hand loading press. I also agree with your opinion on using larger shot, more versitile, more humane on something big enough to not require a slug. However, if I'm not mistaken, Ohio law forbids the use of anything bigger than #4 birdshot on game???

[@WORRO]

Got a few of those ol H&R's around the homestead, nice little guns bro. Loved the video. Thumbs up!~~John

[@flamedrag18]

@alphawolfxxx86 in general, break actions(single or double barrel) would be best for this since there's no moving parts acting on the shell except for the ejector, the hitting of one shell on another in a magazine might degrade the condition of the shell since there's no crimp keeping it together anymore. if you don't have a break action, get on, you can buy them used and in great condition for as low as $40-$60 at flea markets, gun shops or gun shows, no reason to not get one if you want one.

[@FRUNTCASTER]

I have the same gun in .444. . . It was .44 mag, but I had a GS re-chamber it. They're a cheap gun, but I love the heck out'a mine.

[@dk0403]

Great video Dave. How many shots can u get off before having to clean the barrel like u did in your last video?

[@anthonycummings6000]

Are you worried that those hard steel BBs will wear hard on your barrel or is this just a just in case skill, in other words do you regularly use this load

[@akdude182]

sure it will work.i dont have much experience with 20ga (im more of a 12ga person)but start with a 50/50 load with 50 grains of powder and work your way up.you almost cant over charge a modern gun with black powder.

[@shadowflight762]

Another excellent video Dave, fantastic series.

[@andygeorgiou2846]

Very nicely done Sir.

[@Slogood69]

Excellent, I have an old Sears (1960's) SS 2 3/4 - 3" full choke 12ga in really great shape, to use with black powder if there is an ammo shortage. Good Idea?

[@lmglange]

good series but i do not se the big advantage as the primers cant be improvised. But you can shoot with all kinds of funny stuff. you could might as well stock .22 ammo as you still need to stock the primers. its really amazing what you have build up with your youtube channel, online store, survival school and all. Its inspiring to follow here on youtube

[@josh10mm]

Dave great video i am really enjoying this longhunter series and hope to see many more.

[@dennismcginnis8701]

I've reloaded shotshells with BP before. PROS: As the video shows, less costly than smokeless, can load in the field with simple "ingredients". I have shot decent patterns up to about 30 yards. Closer in patterns are better though, obviously. I have not hunted with the BP shotgun. I suspect that the low velocity is an issue with knock down ability. For ducks I would say over decoys would be good but pass shots probably not. CONS: Dirty as all get out. Yes you can clean your gun in the creek or whatever but if you were, say, dove, quail or duck hunting you might need to shoot many times before being able to clean. I'm not sure how that would go. I guess bring some patches and bore cleaner with you and clean every few shots???

[@larrytischler8769]

Another real good characteristic of black powder is it does not HAVE to work at high pressure. Smokeless modern powder must be loaded to near the max or you may get squib (failed) loads. Also these smokeless modern powders require assembly under .pressure which cannot be reliably done by hand or w/o a real reloading press. As a shotshell reloader for over 40 years, I thank you for bringing us this simple emergency concept. Now if we had 12 ga. pyrodex load for a 40 to 45 cal pistol bullet in simple homemade sabot that conjured up 1050 fps, that would be a medium game load for short range.

[@93jeepTimma]

Happy thanksgiving to you and your family dave.

[@lewis404]

Thank you for this video I love using black powder now I can use it in my shotgun

[@Prepare2Survive]

To save from using the wax I wonder if there's some type of common cap or rubber plug that could be reused multiple times as long as you take it off before you fire it.

[@robertengland8769]

Steel bicycle bearings can be used as 00 buck, because as far as I know, all they sell at Walmart is birdshot. Home made pipe shotgun barrels are hard to mess up.

[@MrGattor33]

Dave this was a great how to video I have always wanted to know how this was done..... GREAT VIDEO!!!

[@terrysrifles8383]

Thanks for the excellent description.

[@tblbaby]

Hey, good stuff, this answers a lot of my why's from last video on this. What's next? High pressure air bottle hooked to the back of the barrel ? ; )

[@6BlackWings]

Very informative. I'm wondering, however, what the advantage of doing this is, as opposed to just taking more shells into the field? Seems like the weight would be the same except for the plastic casings for the extra shells. You're already carrying the powder and the shot. What am I missing?

[@Spearfisher1970]

Love this series, but perhaps the volatility of black powder should be stressed to newer reloaders in that holding a flame so close to the workspace could be disastrous? The expansion volume may be lower than smokeless, but I believe the flammability & explosiveness may be higher. Any chance of showing us how to make an improvised powder in the field from easy to find stuff? Even then, I reckon the primers would be a limiting factor.

[@hogsnplanes]

Can't wait to try that!!

[@gregrush6570]

Question: Is that a BHK knife? I have a couple of them and love them. Greg video!

[@trappersteveo]

Cool video. Just thought I would make a suggestion. Instead of the beeswax how do you feel about elmers white glue(the regular kind, not the watersoluable kind). Ive seen guys load them with this and have good luck and the glue would be easy to carry in any pack without a mess due to it being in a bottle and the heat would not affect glue at all.

[@bryncomeaux]

it has a removable handle sold everywhere usually red

[@Sluggo773]

Dave I have been looking for one of these magnets since you posted this video with no success where did you get yours? The closest thing I could find was at menards online store as there is none near me and it was ceramic Also what size is this magnet and the drilled hole thanks Jason

[@brome306]

How and when shoild the shotgun be cleaned after shooting black powder or pyrodex shells through it??

[@EatCarbs]

I am enjoying these videos a great deal. Thank you Dave. And I did have a nice Thanksgiving...thanks. =D

[@flamedrag18]

there were 39 holes in the target, but one seems like a couple pellets went in together, so you got it for sure lol

[@Ilovetheplatypus]

So is the next video going to be how to make black powder in the field?

[@1973Saved]

Great videos Dave. I was wondering, aren't BBs made of steel? If so wouldn't lead shot of the desired size be better because of more weight for the same size, or do you prefer the copper platted steel because it's less toxic? Thanks.

[@BrandonRandomly]

First, I have to laugh at everyone telling you what you're doing wrong when clearly it works. Second, a serious question: How would you make/substitute primers if you had none in a long term self-reliant situation?

[@nightwalker2830]

@wildernessoutfitters thanks i order me a plks 2 and then im gonna get a kydex sheath for it i been using an enzo trapper but i like the pathfinder knife but i cant carry that everyday cause its 5 inch blade but i can carry the plsk 2. i enjoy your channel hope to meet you some day